The Charlie Kirk Show - Exposing Cultural Marxists & Crushing CRT—LIVE from Burlington, VT

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:00.000 We've been traveling across the country.

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00:00:06.000 And so because of that, we had to take a day off of podcasting.

00:00:10.000 We did do an interview with Daniel Horowitz that you should listen to as our sister episode.

00:00:14.000 But I thought, hey, why don't we air our conversation at University of Vermont, where we have an amazing discussion, some disagreement, some socialists that come up to the line.

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00:00:24.000 Our speech at University of Vermont in Burlington, Vermont.

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00:02:55.000 Here we go Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:03:05.000 Folks, I want to thank Charlie.

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00:03:57.000 Thank you.

00:03:58.000 Thank you, everybody.

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00:04:01.000 I wasn't sure what to expect in Bernie Sanders' hometown, but this is pretty great.

00:04:08.000 Yeah, we're thrilled to be here tonight, and we're going to have some fun.

00:04:14.000 And I know we have plenty of people that disagree that are here as well.

00:04:17.000 And so we're looking forward to that portion of the evening.

00:04:19.000 But I want to first start with the most important thanks, which is our Turning Point USA students that have worked so hard to put on this event.

00:04:27.000 Give them a round of applause.

00:04:28.000 It's incredible.

00:04:29.000 It really is.

00:04:32.000 And it's very difficult to be a conservative in today's America.

00:04:38.000 It's more difficult than ever to be a young student who is a conservative, especially at the University of Vermont.

00:04:45.000 And so you deserve great credit, everyone here in the yellow shirts and all of our chapters.

00:04:50.000 It really is terrific.

00:04:54.000 And so there's a couple things I want to talk about.

00:04:57.000 Kind of, I first wanted to say, why am I here?

00:04:59.000 Why am I in Burlington, Vermont, of all places?

00:05:02.000 And I actually love Vermont.

00:05:03.000 I know that's a contrarian view for a conservative.

00:05:05.000 I'm going to tell you about three things I like about Vermont, and then I could tell you the things I don't like about Vermont as well.

00:05:11.000 But I grew up coming here.

00:05:13.000 I grew up visiting Lake Champlain.

00:05:14.000 I grew up in Chicago, so it's not too far.

00:05:16.000 And this is honestly one of the most beautiful states in the country.

00:05:19.000 It's one of God's gifts to America.

00:05:21.000 I really believe that.

00:05:23.000 And your politics is a totally different story.

00:05:25.000 We could talk about that as well.

00:05:27.000 And I think there's something special about Vermont that we shouldn't forget that we as conservatives should focus on, which is the idea of preserving the small against the big, which is that sometimes it's important that we as conservatives recognize we want to have local communities stay strong, families stay strong, and that we, of course, want limited government,

00:05:51.000 but we also don't want overreaching corporations either destroying, you know, kind of timeless family businesses that have been passed down.

00:05:58.000 And so I kind of always like coming to Burlington.

00:06:01.000 I don't know if Burlington likes me coming, but apparently it's, you know, but it's, thank you, where it's, it's, it's actually really interesting and important where this is one of the few cities that has still kind of kept, at least from an aesthetic standpoint, the idea of small town America and not wanting kind of these soulless, godless corporations to come in and destroy small business and entrepreneurship.

00:06:29.000 And there's some very interesting contradictions that I think that Vermont is living through right now that we'll talk about because Vermont has always kind of been this idea that we want to keep the way, we want to keep things the way they are, which is actually a conservative idea.

00:06:44.000 And, you know, some people on the more socialistic left would disagree.

00:06:49.000 They would say that, well, no, we want to, you know, we want to abolish private property or stop business.

00:06:56.000 You know, see, they're already cheering for the abolition of private property.

00:06:59.000 We have a nice start already.

00:07:01.000 So you won't mind if I take your poorly worded sign.

00:07:04.000 I could tell.

00:07:06.000 So they must be consistent then.

00:07:13.000 But there is this idea, though, that we as conservatives in the last 18 months, thankfully, have stopped being corporate cheerleaders.

00:07:20.000 I think that's a really healthy thing.

00:07:22.000 That we as conservatives should stand for the good, the true, the beautiful, for the local and the decentralized, not the foreign and the distant and the corrupt.

00:07:32.000 And that goes for saying that we don't want to be ruled by Washington, D.C.

00:07:37.000 And we also don't want to be ruled by Pfizer, Johnson, and Johnson or AstraZeneca.

00:07:48.000 That we want that we believe in the power of local communities, states' rights, obviously.

00:07:55.000 So Vermont has the ability to govern themselves as they want in a balance of a federal system.

00:08:00.000 Thankfully, I get to go home to Arizona.

00:08:02.000 No offense, but I do enjoy a little bit more of a conservative state.

00:08:05.000 But there's a couple things about Vermont.

00:08:08.000 I'm going to say three things I like, and then the things I think that Vermont needs to improve upon, which is I mentioned, number one, I actually kind of like the idea of town meetings.

00:08:15.000 I know that not every conservative does, but I do kind of like the idea that the local is still prioritized here in Vermont.

00:08:22.000 The things shut down and you care about what's happening around you.

00:08:25.000 And at least it's been described to me that still happens a lot in Vermont, if I'm not mistaken.

00:08:29.000 And that kind of idea of participatory government as a uniquely American idea, that you're not going to outsource all your decisions to some politician or bureaucrat or oligarch that you don't even know the face of.

00:08:39.000 That saying, you know what, we're going to take a day off work to even show up and be able to have our voice be heard in the local town center or town meeting.

00:08:47.000 That is one of the constitutional ideas of consent of the governed that I hope we don't lose in our country.

00:08:53.000 And Vermont, for all of its other kind of complexities, I think is something that's very admirable.

00:08:58.000 The second thing, and I want to just reinforce this, and I'm still trying to figure out how this kind of mixes, is I know so many people in Vermont that, and many people here, that want, that have been on a crusade against bigness, that is saying that we want to be able to say the companies we purchase products from, we want to know the people's names, their history, their background.

00:09:20.000 And we don't want to say that we want to just kind of be ruled by the same 100 companies, right?

00:09:26.000 That we as conservatives should stand against big government and big Google, that both of those things are equal threats to our liberty and our freedom.

00:09:36.000 But the question is, what do we want to take?

00:09:38.000 What do we want to be strong?

00:09:39.000 And this is where we'll disagree completely with some people on the left.

00:09:42.000 We believe it's a moral and objective good to have big families and to have people get married and to stay married and to make the family the center point of American society.

00:09:56.000 And the third thing that I love about Vermont is your gun laws.

00:10:01.000 I have to say, you guys have great gun laws. 0.96

00:10:03.000 You really do.

00:10:09.000 We got Pastor Todd here from Ignite Church.

00:10:12.000 Now, here's some things that Vermont can improve upon, right?

00:10:16.000 Vermont is the third least churched state in the country.

00:10:19.000 It's right there on the edge.

00:10:22.000 Some people are very supportive of that, right?

00:10:24.000 And that goes to show that the more secular a state comes, the less free it is.

00:10:29.000 And when you do not have people regularly attend church, when you remove a belief in a transcendent order, then you're going to have to replace that with something.

00:10:37.000 And sometimes that something is something that is collectivist in nature and unfortunately sometimes authoritarian and tyrannical in nature.

00:10:48.000 And so you can look at a direct correlation of as people start to say, you know, I want to reject religion or a belief in God, they're going to have to then pursue something in their life, whether it be materialism or statism, to try and fill that type of void.

00:11:04.000 And I will reinforce this, that what liberty can only be handled by people that are moral and virtuous.

00:11:11.000 John Adams said it best at the founding of our country where he said that John Adams said that a constitutional republic was made wholly and only for a moral and virtuous people.

00:11:22.000 It is wholly inadequate for the people of any other. 0.98

00:11:25.000 So what does that mean, moral and virtuous?

00:11:27.000 Well, if you do not believe in a God, then morality is simply a form of opinion.

00:11:32.000 You only know that a line is crooked if you have a straight line to compare it to.

00:11:37.000 And if you get down into the metaphysics of it, eventually, and there's been plenty of people that have tried, Christopher Hitchens and Dawkins and many others that have made a pretty good attempt at it, that absent an idea of a creator-making creation, absent idea of a transcendent type morality, which, by the way, is baked into a lot of our Western traditions.

00:11:53.000 thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not murder, don't take people's stuff, then you are going to all of a sudden enter a cycle where the strongest person wins the argument, where it's the person that is in charge, it's the person that is controlling the particular power apparatus, not the person that actually has a public and agreed upon type of moral system to judge itself on.

00:12:16.000 And so Vermont, I think, is at an interesting place.

00:12:20.000 Actually, this state's far more conservative than actually people put it on.

00:12:23.000 You take Burlington out of the equation.

00:12:24.000 The state is actually conservative.

00:12:26.000 And I'm not saying you should take it out of the equation, but I'm sure a lot of you say New York, you could take it.

00:12:34.000 You can annex Burlington.

00:12:35.000 It wouldn't make much of a difference.

00:12:37.000 But it is this kind of this situation where I think that, and this kind of goes back to the question, why am I here?

00:12:46.000 Well, I'm here precisely to show the world that even in the place that you're not supposed to go as a conservative.

00:12:52.000 Bernie Sanders hometown, Burlington, what are you doing there?

00:12:54.000 No, we as conservatives need to go to all places.

00:12:56.000 Like we need to go to places that we've never been before, including the most liberal cities in America, and bring our message of optimism and one of human empowerment and one of constitutional liberty and small R Republican style government to every single corner of the country.

00:13:12.000 I'm going to University of Oregon next week, which will be really interesting.

00:13:17.000 But that's something I want just every conservative here tonight, maybe not a conservative, obviously, we got plenty of those tonight, which is don't be afraid to go places that you might not feel welcome.

00:13:29.000 And that's an important thing for life, which is do not allow other people to dictate the terms of engagement for you, which is, it would have been very easy for us to show up at just friendly territory, but to go places where sometimes there's a little bit of a commotion.

00:13:44.000 And I also want to just reward the activists too at Turning Point USA because they're the ones that put on these events.

00:13:49.000 They're the ones that have to get spit on and they get mocked and ridiculed, doxed and publicized for this.

00:13:54.000 You know what?

00:13:55.000 We as pro-American activists and advocates, we need to stand next to our activists that are on these campuses because the truth is an amazing thing.

00:14:04.000 That when you release the truth, it has a way of defending itself.

00:14:08.000 And that's one of the reasons why we're here is to try to have the uncomfortable conversations, try to challenge the Orthodoxies.

00:14:14.000 You know what?

00:14:14.000 There's actually more of us than you might actually think in this area.

00:14:18.000 These ideas, viewpoint and platform, deserve at least some form of discussion and dialogue.

00:14:25.000 And so there's a couple of things I want to talk about before we get to questions.

00:14:29.000 I want to talk about the death of liberal America, which is a very important thing.

00:14:33.000 And the liberal America being different than you might think.

00:14:37.000 There's a difference between liberals and leftists, right?

00:14:39.000 Leftists are people that wish to shut people like myself up.

00:14:42.000 Liberals would disagree with my current speech, but they'd say, okay, yeah, whatever.

00:14:46.000 I might come ask a question, but I'm not going to make a big point out of trying to cancel or trying to destroy your ability to speak.

00:14:53.000 And, you know, it's very interesting kind of reading some of the publications leading up to this event where it says, we must shut down fascist Charlie Kirk.

00:15:02.000 I'm like, who's the fascist exactly?

00:15:03.000 The one that's the one that's coming to speak or the person that wants you not to be able to speak?

00:15:08.000 Like that's awfully authoritarian and fascist.

00:15:17.000 And I think it's an important point because if our ideas were so terrible, then just let it happen and don't show up.

00:15:25.000 Don't try to make it this kind of hobby or task to try to eliminate somebody you just disagree with.

00:15:32.000 And I think that goes to a broader point, which is that activism mixed with moral righteousness gives people a false sense of purpose.

00:15:41.000 And unfortunately, we see this a lot at very, very left-wing campuses, which there's a purpose crisis in our country, and it's a very real thing.

00:15:49.000 And things that give people purpose should be responsibility, relationships, spiritual connection, not necessarily protesting some speaker that's coming in to give an hour and a half lecture and then walk outside of the room and like just leave.

00:16:03.000 And that's a deeper and more profound point, which is America's becoming a place where students in particular are less happy than ever before.

00:16:13.000 And we're going to talk about this in a little bit and like what actually brings happiness and why is that important?

00:16:17.000 Because I believe happiness is a choice, not a feeling.

00:16:20.000 And that's something that they will not teach you at most college campuses.

00:16:23.000 They say, no, it's something that you can feel if you check certain boxes on your way there.

00:16:28.000 But when you see some of the activists that are demanding cancellation of viewpoints that they disagree with, there is kind of this renewal of purpose that like, I finally have something to do.

00:16:40.000 And that might sound silly, but if you look at city by city, the people that show up and do these types of protests and show up with that kind of fervor, it's almost as if the idea of I am doing the right thing to try to eliminate the person that I fundamentally disagree with.

00:16:56.000 Let me just say there's something a lot more fulfilling out there than being a protester.

00:17:01.000 That you can start a family, a business, travel, go for a hike, that the most important thing in your life should be the things that last forever.

00:17:11.000 You should prioritize the eternal over the temporal.

00:17:14.000 And this is something that I think we need to be more honest about, which is, you know, as we look at students and we look at the younger generation, a lot of people say, Charlie, why does it seem as if they are so adamant at trying to shut up other people?

00:17:29.000 It's not everybody, by the way.

00:17:30.000 There's a lot of students here that are not trying to shut people up and you guys deserve credit for that.

00:17:34.000 But it's a growing cohort and it's kind of going with momentum.

00:17:38.000 And just by some background, by the way, we only publicized the event, the date, the address of this event very recently because the first hotel we had came under a very targeted campaign from certain people that didn't want us to be here in Burlington, right?

00:17:53.000 And I thought to myself, don't you have anything better to do?

00:17:55.000 Like, no, you don't, actually.

00:17:57.000 Is that the whole purpose is trying to contact Hilton to try to not let them go down because he's a fascist, but we're not a fascist.

00:18:03.000 And I actually want to just extend like an olive branch.

00:18:06.000 And it's like, please go explore the world and explore the scriptures and explore a relationship with God and Jesus Christ because there's something so much more beautiful out there than just trying to cancel other people.

00:18:15.000 It's actually not a great way to live.

00:18:22.000 So let me talk about why we name the tour what it is, exposing critical racism tour.

00:18:29.000 And it's really interesting.

00:18:30.000 This is, you know, people always joke around.

00:18:32.000 They say, Charlie, you want America to be all white, which is nonsense.

00:18:35.000 It's a joke. 0.99

00:18:36.000 I say, wait a second, the whitest state in the country is Vermont, and their politics are pretty screwed up. 0.90

00:18:40.000 So I don't believe any of that, okay? 0.57

00:18:42.000 It's the whitest state in the country, and they got plenty of, you know, issues with that.

00:18:47.000 And I don't think we should judge people based on skin color.

00:18:49.000 I think it's anti-American.

00:18:50.000 I think it's evil.

00:18:51.000 I think it's immoral.

00:18:51.000 I think it's wrong to judge people based on the color of their skin.

00:18:57.000 And critical race theory, wokeism, diversity, industrial complex, diversity, equity, inclusion, woke-stan, whatever you want to call it, has and is plaguing our major institutions, which comes from critical theory.

00:19:10.000 We can go into that if you guys want to.

00:19:12.000 And it's this basic idea that the systems of America itself are racist, unjust, inequitable, whatever kind of words you want to use.

00:19:20.000 And that's our position as white allies to try and blow up the system as we know it, try to topple it, try to invert it to try and get towards some form of Marxist utopianism. 0.84

00:19:36.000 I don't really know what comes next, but everyone kind of has their own kind of specific answer to that.

00:19:40.000 And I think it's a total disservice to the country that we live in, which we live in the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:19:46.000 That the country that we live in is a place that has accepted more people from more parts of the planet and has done so successfully.

00:19:55.000 And CRT, critical race theory, diversity, industrial complex, all these sorts of things seek to destroy that.

00:20:00.000 Where the country I grew up in like 10 years ago, I know it kind of sounds funny to say that, was people that would have espoused this viewpoint, we would have called them racist, and rightfully so.

00:20:10.000 We would have say, show me your actions, your character, show me what you actually want to bring to the world.

00:20:15.000 Don't try to judge people or try to characterize them or organize them based on things they cannot control or cannot change.

00:20:23.000 And it's this simple.

00:20:24.000 Do you think that things, the most important way to kind of characterize people is based on things they can change or things they cannot change?

00:20:31.000 And saying that, well, you know, we need to try and atone for our white privilege, you know, and I just, I always get a chuckle out of that when I hear it out of Bernie Sanders.

00:20:39.000 I'm like, so which of your three homes are you going to donate to the disadvantaged populations of the state, right?

00:20:46.000 Which is like, spare me, you know, the white privilege type talk.

00:20:54.000 And it kind of goes to this question of if you believe skin color and the preference of that is important, then you wish to completely change the mission statement of America.

00:21:05.000 And America has a Trinity, just like there's a Christian Trinity. 0.62

00:21:08.000 And the Trinity is in God we trust, liberty and e pluribus unum.

00:21:12.000 In God we trust, pretty obvious, liberty, the pursuit of virtue.

00:21:15.000 E pluribus unum is a Latin phrase.

00:21:17.000 It means out of many, one.

00:21:18.000 That means regardless of your skin color, your background, no matter what you look like, we are all one because we're all made equally as human beings.

00:21:25.000 We're all human beings, regardless of your skin color, regardless of your background.

00:21:29.000 And you just look at the numbers, they don't pan out.

00:21:34.000 And the numbers that they say, well, there's disproportionate outcomes based on race in this country.

00:21:39.000 But if you factor whether or not there's two parents in the home, you factor level of education, it's not the skin color that means anything.

00:21:46.000 Instead, it's things that matter much more than that.

00:21:48.000 Whether or not are children being raised in stable homes.

00:21:52.000 And so if you take a white child that is raised by a single mother and a black child that is raised by a mother and a father, a traditional nuclear family that is harshly under attack right now in America, the black child raised by the mother and father is far more likely to succeed in any sort of independent metric that you want to choose, high school graduation, college graduation, getting a job, not going to prison, than the white child that is raised by just a single mother.

00:22:16.000 And that's according to the Brookings Institution, which is a liberal think tank that is not exactly, you know, on my individual political viewpoint.

00:22:24.000 So the focus that we should have instead is how are we going to rebuild the family?

00:22:28.000 How are we going to make people actually take responsibility for their most important interpersonal relations and say that this is a moral and objective good for society?

00:22:38.000 But that runs at odds with something that is a core tenant of American leftism, which is a core tenant of American leftism is that pleasure should matter a lot more than responsibility.

00:22:51.000 And so we as conservatives believe a lot of things.

00:22:53.000 One of the things that we believe in is delayed gratification.

00:22:57.000 We believe that the best things, the most important things, the higher things, the eternal things, the ultimate purpose comes when you restrain your own natural impulses, you apply yourself to a code of conduct, you control your own self, and you do things that are hard but are worthwhile, like getting married, like having children.

00:23:17.000 And this kind of goes to this question, which is that we believe that leisure and luxury are a byproduct of hard work, dedication, and deferred gratification.

00:23:31.000 And you see this kind of playing out right now in American society where there's a workers crisis right now where people can't find people to do work because we paid people not to work for the last year and a half, one of the worst mistakes we've ever made in our country.

00:23:43.000 And I'll get into the lockdowns and stuff if you guys are interested.

00:23:46.000 But even beyond that, it's this question of, you know, is there something meaningful and worthwhile about maybe being mildly uncomfortable in the immediate term to try to then have some sort of reward in the long term?

00:24:01.000 And when you ask yourself that question, there is kind of this assault of trying to destroy the Western prescribed nuclear family.

00:24:08.000 You saw this at Black Lives Matter website during Floyd Apaloozo last summer when BLM Incorporated put on their website, they said that we exist to try to disrupt and destroy the Western prescribed nuclear family.

00:24:22.000 Every single metric you can find is that people are less likely to go to prison, more likely to have higher incomes, less likely to fall into poverty if you keep the actual family structure together, regardless of skin color, regardless of background.

00:24:35.000 And so what is one of the reasons why the family structure is falling apart?

00:24:38.000 One of the reasons is that we have made it more convenient and acceptable and easier than ever for young people to remain childless, for young people not to get married.

00:24:46.000 And instead, some people in college campuses are told in propaganda is that it's a patriarchal system that is exploiting, you know, women and it's this terrible and awful thing.

00:24:56.000 And in fact, it's the opposite.

00:24:58.000 I got married in May.

00:24:58.000 I can tell you it's one of the most beautiful things that a human being can do.

00:25:05.000 I've been telling you guys about Relief Factor for quite some time.

00:25:08.000 And truth is, I know millions of people are in fact, 100 million people are in some kind of pain.

00:25:12.000 Look, producer Andrew, he couldn't walk.

00:25:14.000 He was a hobbled individual. 0.96

00:25:16.000 He was bedridden in his chair, complaining all the time.

00:25:20.000 And then all of a sudden we got this call from Relief Factor.

00:25:23.000 They said, hey, we want to partner with your show.

00:25:24.000 We're going to send you some Relief Factor.

00:25:26.000 Producer Andrew got it.

00:25:27.000 He took it, got a little bit better, took some more, got a little bit better.

00:25:30.000 Next thing you know, he's doing the falseberry flop like you wouldn't believe.

00:25:34.000 In fact, he might be training for an Ironman.

00:25:38.000 It's pretty incredible.

00:25:38.000 Now, he says it's thanks to Relief Factor.

00:25:40.000 I ask him all the time, Relief Factor?

00:25:42.000 He says relief factor.com, 100% drug-free supplement.

00:25:45.000 You can get it for less than the cost of a cup of coffee a day.

00:25:47.000 So go to relieffactor.com, and I'm suggesting you order their three-week quick start to see if we can get you out of pain.

00:25:53.000 And then after that, it's less than the cost of a cup of coffee a day to stay out of pain.

00:25:56.000 Go to relieffactor.com.

00:25:57.000 That is relieffactor.com.

00:25:59.000 I'm telling you, a lot of people are in pain.

00:26:01.000 It's 100% drug-free.

00:26:02.000 Don't go to opioids.

00:26:03.000 Don't go to these other things.

00:26:04.000 Check it out at relieffactor.com.

00:26:12.000 And understand that every single totalitarian and tyrannical style of government exists to try to destroy relationships first between the husband and the wife, and eventually between parents and children, whether it be Mao's Chinese Revolution, whether it be Joseph Stalin and Vladimir Lenin in the USSR, because the ultimate social institution, the one that works the best, is that if you have a family that is supporting itself, especially an intergenerational family,

00:26:41.000 where you have grandparents supporting grandkids, and you kind of have this three-tied knot of the past, the current, and the future, and this is a beautiful kind of example that Edmund Burke used, then all of a sudden you're less likely to go on government benefits.

00:26:53.000 You're less likely to seek social welfare.

00:26:56.000 And that for one of the reasons, as the American family has fallen apart, just give you an idea of how profound this is.

00:27:02.000 77% of black children in America will grow up without knowing their father.

00:27:08.000 77% of black children in America.

00:27:11.000 So if you want to have like a conversation of systemic outcomes and inequities, I think the most important thing is why are we subsidizing single motherhood in our country?

00:27:18.000 Why is it through the Great Society program that we're subsidizing fatherlessness and this kind of failure of taking fathers outside of the home?

00:27:27.000 And there's a lot of different answers for this.

00:27:29.000 And the easiest answer is that our politicians and our cultural leaders don't actually want to tell people the truth, which is that you're not, you know, I guess you're allowed to, but it shouldn't be culturally acceptable.

00:27:42.000 It shouldn't be something that's glorified or taken, you know, platform if you impregnate a woman and abandon her. 0.98

00:27:47.000 Like, no, you're a coward.

00:27:48.000 And that makes society a less happy, enjoyable, safe, and quite honestly, free place to live. 0.91

00:27:54.000 That taking responsibility for one's actions is something that keeps America free.

00:27:59.000 Instead, we have now entered into an instant gratification cycle that does the exact opposite, which is you can feel wonderful, feel great, and instant modus, and take zero responsibility for your actions.

00:28:08.000 Guess what?

00:28:09.000 It creates really miserable people.

00:28:11.000 Because in our soul, there is a yearning for responsibility.

00:28:14.000 In our soul, there is a yearning.

00:28:16.000 And you know this, even left-wing students, you know, kind of know this, which is you work really hard on a test and you do well on that.

00:28:22.000 There's actually the kind of this sense of fulfillment, and there should be, because you applied yourself, because you worked hard, because you actually had a goal and you sought out and did it.

00:28:31.000 And when you have an entire generation that is quite kind of directionless, that is all about instant and momentary kind of dopamine rushes at that current instant, at that current moment, then you start to see all of a sudden the unraveling of some of the ties that bind us together.

00:28:46.000 And so one of the reasons we focus so hard on exposing critical race theory is that regardless of your political viewpoint or your philosophical viewpoint, we can all agree that these kind of deconstructionist ideologies, things that try to tear at the very core of who we are as a country, our history, our shared ethos, is something that's going to make America soon very unrecognizable.

00:29:08.000 And I'm afraid that we're getting there.

00:29:09.000 In Georgia, they are putting white children in one classroom and black children in another classroom.

00:29:15.000 They are segregating children based on race.

00:29:17.000 75 colleges across the country have graduation ceremonies based on race.

00:29:22.000 75, including Columbia University, Western Washington University, has black only dormitories. 0.85

00:29:29.000 That is evil.

00:29:31.000 And we, as pro-American, whatever your description is, we should all agree that black-only dormitories, putting black kids in one classroom, white kids in another classroom in the city of Georgia, and also having black-only graduation ceremonies, that only harbors the very sin of segregation that we worked so hard to eliminate in the 1960s, and we need to stand against it.

00:30:02.000 So now I want to talk a little bit about life.

00:30:04.000 We could talk about all sorts of stuff.

00:30:05.000 We could talk about how men aren't women and women aren't men. 0.64

00:30:08.000 We could talk about all sorts of stuff.

00:30:10.000 And both are beautiful, by the way, made in the image of God.

00:30:13.000 We could talk about that and how they both need each other.

00:30:16.000 Sure, that will animate some people in this room.

00:30:18.000 But I just want to talk a little bit about life, which is I think that one of the things that students don't hear enough on college campuses is how do you live a happy and fulfilling life?

00:30:27.000 Now, obviously, I'm a Christian.

00:30:28.000 I believe in the inerrancy of scripture, the triune God, and Jesus Christ as our redeeming Lord and Savior.

00:30:33.000 And God bless Pastor Todd for your missionary type work here in Vermont.

00:30:36.000 It's truly amazing.

00:30:38.000 But I just want to get to a very simple thing that I think that differentiates kind of two different political viewpoints, which is embedded in conservatism is an appreciation and gratitude that we live in the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:30:53.000 There is a gratitude that there are people that existed before us that sacrificed a lot.

00:30:58.000 So we have the ability to be able to espouse awful garbage ideas and welcome them in to our events.

00:31:05.000 And that we have the ability to have a free discourse and we are able to have dialogue.

00:31:10.000 That's a unique thing.

00:31:11.000 To live in a free society is hard.

00:31:13.000 It takes generations of sacrifice of people delaying their own gratification so you can live in a wonderful country.

00:31:20.000 And so, you know, I said this once on a podcast.

00:31:22.000 People said, well, thankful to whom?

00:31:23.000 Well, first of all, thankful to our creator.

00:31:25.000 Thankful to the person who gives us our existence.

00:31:27.000 And then let's just even, if you don't even believe in that, because Vermont is the least churched country in the, in the, and Vermont is the least churched, and you could tell.

00:31:40.000 I will say this, that if you show up to church, you'll be much more happy.

00:31:43.000 I will say that.

00:31:47.000 You'll be a much happier person, I should say.

00:31:51.000 We'll get to you guys in a second, I promise.

00:31:55.000 Should be thankful for life.

00:31:57.000 It's a gift.

00:31:58.000 It's a beautiful thing.

00:32:02.000 A true appreciation of the deeper and eternal thing starts with wonder.

00:32:06.000 When I was landing here today, I saw incredible natural beauty.

00:32:10.000 I saw mountains that looked like they were literally on fire.

00:32:13.000 You guys hear that all the time.

00:32:14.000 And it makes you wonder, wow, is that by mistake?

00:32:17.000 Is that an act of randomness?

00:32:18.000 Is there something behind that?

00:32:20.000 It makes you wonder what else out there is beautiful and worth preserving.

00:32:24.000 What else out there is eternal and elevated?

00:32:26.000 What else out there is something that we should try to go above and beyond and make sure it doesn't get corrupted?

00:32:33.000 Make sure that it doesn't get destroyed.

00:32:35.000 And that starts with gratitude.

00:32:37.000 It starts with being thankful.

00:32:39.000 And the first thing is being thankful for life, thankful for consciousness, thankful for existence, thankful for things that are deeply, objectively good.

00:32:47.000 And we want, we as conservatives, then I kind of just say this in general, that we want to design a society that gives preference on your choices and your actions and your behavior, not on your complaints or your grievances or the mobilization thereof.

00:33:05.000 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:33:07.000 I'm perfectly, you know, kind of on board with breaking up certain companies and using political power to try and make that easier.

00:33:15.000 But generally, I think that it's very important for people to try and prioritize that the greatest battle you'll experience in life is not Charlie Kirk versus climate change or Charlie Kirk versus the oil companies.

00:33:32.000 No, it's Charlie Kirk versus Charlie Kirk.

00:33:34.000 That it is the struggle within that we must tell young people, that we must understand that it's self-control, that the improvement of your own character is the thing that you must prioritize above anything else.

00:33:47.000 And it's a disservice to tell young people, you know what, the greatest struggle in life is you against racism.

00:33:52.000 The greatest struggle in life is you against, no, the greatest struggle in life is you going to be able to control your own impulses, to work up early to go to work, to say that I want to become a better and more developed human being.

00:34:03.000 And put very simply, we as human beings, thank you.

00:34:08.000 We as conservatives believe that happiness is a choice.

00:34:13.000 I'll let you guys determine if my wonderful comrades here are happy or not.

00:34:21.000 We are.

00:34:22.000 We're happy, regardless of how bad things are falling apart in our country.

00:34:25.000 We're happy to be alive.

00:34:26.000 We're thankful for our existence.

00:34:28.000 Happiness is a choice.

00:34:30.000 If you go around trying to find happiness, all of a sudden you'll seek pleasure over virtue.

00:34:34.000 If you try to go find happiness as a state, it's nonsense.

00:34:37.000 And we as Christians are commanded to be joyful in all circumstances.

00:34:40.000 And this is a very important point because sometimes in the Northeast, this message doesn't go over well because it's kind of a gruff group of people in the Northeast at times.

00:34:48.000 Sometimes you don't see the sun like half the year.

00:34:50.000 I get it.

00:34:50.000 It's hard.

00:34:52.000 But instead, happiness is a choice.

00:34:55.000 It's a state of mind.

00:34:56.000 It's something that you must commit yourself.

00:34:58.000 You must work at it too.

00:34:59.000 You must say, man, what am I thankful for today?

00:35:02.000 And I'm not trying to diminish suffering.

00:35:04.000 Let me be very clear.

00:35:05.000 Everybody here has something you're going through, and it's a serious thing.

00:35:09.000 And if there's a way that we can help you, I pray that that'll show itself in that way.

00:35:13.000 But that's not to say, what does it mean to live a fulfilling life?

00:35:17.000 To walk around always looking at something worthy of protesting, tearing down, deconstructing, disassembling, or saying, man, if I made these 10 choices, if I stopped drinking, if I stopped doing drugs, if I stopped complaining, maybe my life will improve a little bit.

00:35:31.000 Maybe if I all of a sudden start taking responsibility for my actions, I'll start to see the fruits of those choices.

00:35:38.000 That's a fundamental difference.

00:35:40.000 Because at the core, and I am not saying there are not public policy changes that need to be made.

00:35:46.000 Trust me, there's plenty.

00:35:48.000 But the real struggle that we must all understand is that it's you against you.

00:35:55.000 That if you devote yourself to saying, you know what, I'll be happy as soon as we get universal health care.

00:36:00.000 I'll be happy as soon as we get this person.

00:36:02.000 That's never going to happen.

00:36:03.000 Instead, we have a responsibility crisis in our country.

00:36:06.000 What is responsibility?

00:36:08.000 Responsibility is when you have an activity or you're doing something and you don't show up, and that enterprise falls apart.

00:36:18.000 If a husband doesn't show up at home, all of a sudden the wife is what's going on, things are falling apart. 0.68

00:36:23.000 If all of a sudden someone doesn't show up to work and you're a necessary job, all of a sudden things start falling apart.

00:36:28.000 The reason we have so many people searching for purpose in our country is because we have said to so many students, don't go find responsibility, go find immediate pleasure and gratification.

00:36:39.000 That we must instead prioritize things that make you have to all of a sudden challenge yourself.

00:36:45.000 Character is developed in the challenge.

00:36:48.000 Strength rejoices in the challenge.

00:36:51.000 And we sometimes need to say, you know what?

00:36:53.000 It's a good thing that you got to live a little bit tougher of a circumstance right now as a 17, 18, or 19-year-old.

00:36:58.000 It'll make you a tougher person in the long run.

00:37:00.000 Instead of removing all sort of speech that might offend them, instead of saying that we can never have you exposed to something you might disagree with, instead, I think we should try to create a nation that, similar to the greatest generation, is able to step up heroically and courageously at the toughest times and say, you know what, that in and of itself will create better and happier and more thankful people.

00:37:21.000 That more than politics is actually something we need to hone on, which actually instructs our politics heavily.

00:37:27.000 Okay, last thing that I want to touch on.

00:37:29.000 I got so much stuff.

00:37:30.000 I kind of talked about Bernie Sanders.

00:37:32.000 He's a joke.

00:37:33.000 You know, total joke.

00:37:38.000 And, well, he's not a joke.

00:37:44.000 I said, joke.

00:37:45.000 I know hearing might not be your strong suit.

00:37:49.000 I can't hear you with your two masks on.

00:37:58.000 I can't see your beautiful smile.

00:37:59.000 God gave you a face.

00:38:00.000 Let's see it.

00:38:01.000 Oh, you don't believe in God.

00:38:03.000 I forgot.

00:38:08.000 He's a joke, J-O-K-E. 1.00

00:38:11.000 I'll say it slower.

00:38:13.000 He has manipulated well-meaning young people into believing on utopia is just around the corner instead of telling them the truth, which is stop doing drugs, stop drinking, take responsibility for your actions, work harder, and stop making complaining the most important thing in your life.

00:38:27.000 He has misled people at every single turn.

00:38:33.000 And he's gotten rich while doing it.

00:38:36.000 Bernie Sanders is a true socialist.

00:38:37.000 He would have given away his book.

00:38:38.000 He wouldn't have charged $27 per piece.

00:38:42.000 Instead, he wants to get rich.

00:38:45.000 He wants to make money.

00:38:46.000 And I will say this out of the Bernie folks here at Burlington.

00:38:50.000 Boy, you guys were gamed for the last two elections.

00:38:53.000 I'll tell you what.

00:38:55.000 That well-meaning Bernie bros were taking advantage of the last two elections.

00:39:00.000 For all of the activist energy that I will admit you guys have, for all of the door knocking, you were deceived by two corporate Wall Street-bought candidates that made lies and overtures to Bernie Sanders, and it was stolen from Bernie.

00:39:13.000 And what's amazing is how the young Democrat socialists of America put up with it.

00:39:18.000 It's like, you know what?

00:39:19.000 It got stolen from us twice.

00:39:21.000 We got totally run over.

00:39:23.000 And I guess, you know, we're just going to take it.

00:39:25.000 I just, I'm just waiting for the moment for the socialists on the left to say, you know what?

00:39:31.000 Our biggest, the people that have lied to us the most are not the conservatives.

00:39:34.000 It's the people within the left itself.

00:39:36.000 And yet it seems as if this is just going to keep on happening.

00:39:40.000 And I would feel sorry for them, but their ideas are so terrible.

00:39:43.000 So I really don't.

00:39:44.000 And so I don't.

00:39:49.000 And so socialism is rooted in a worldview that any success, any wealth, any treasure comes from stealing and theft.

00:39:57.000 We believe that markets are the best way to improve people's lives.

00:40:01.000 And it comes back to this question, which is...

00:40:04.000 What kind of society do you want to live in?

00:40:06.000 We want to live in a free and family-focused society.

00:40:09.000 We want to live in one that prioritizes the good, the true, and the beautiful over the corrupt, the complaining, and the mobilization of grievances.

00:40:16.000 That we know that it is rare to have an affluent society.

00:40:20.000 And I'll close with this, and then we can do some questions, which is always, we're going to have some fun, which is, you want to know how good we have it?

00:40:27.000 Affluence covers a multitude of sins.

00:40:31.000 Luxury allows you the ability to care about being woke.

00:40:36.000 You think they care about that in Guatemala, El Salvador?

00:40:38.000 They're worried about crime, their currency not being deteriorated and diminished.

00:40:43.000 Only in a wealthy society is someone given the opportunity, the leisure, and the free time to be woke.

00:40:49.000 Only in a society with so much abundance that we have, do you have the ability to be able to go read white fragility by Robin DiAngelo or how to be an anti-racist?

00:41:00.000 You are living in a society that is made thanks to the sacrifices of generations before, thanks to strong families, a moral center, entrepreneurs that created so much wealth beyond your wildest imaginations that you now have the opportunity and the liberty to go pursue these awful and dangerous ideas.

00:41:17.000 And that is only possible in a free society that I hope that we can preserve and protect for future generations.

00:41:22.000 Thank you guys.

00:41:22.000 Let's do some questions.

00:41:26.000 Questions here?

00:41:27.000 Jonah, raise your hand.

00:41:28.000 If you disagree, go to the front of the line.

00:41:30.000 Open offer to any young Democrat socialists.

00:41:32.000 Just go right up to the front of the line.

00:41:34.000 If you have questions, and please make it questions, not speeches.

00:41:38.000 Keep them short and to the point.

00:41:40.000 And let's have some fun.

00:41:41.000 Yes, first question.

00:41:46.000 Hi, Mr. Kirk.

00:41:47.000 How are you?

00:41:49.000 So I come from a long line of people who've worked for a very long time, 60 hours a week plus pretty much the entire time.

00:41:57.000 We've been told over the last year and a half that basically it has only been because of the pandemic that people are working less, staying home from work.

00:42:06.000 I kind of have a different theory and I was wondering your take on it.

00:42:09.000 How much of it do you think is the pandemic itself versus perhaps a younger generation that is now willing to put in manual labor when they can make the same hourly wage doing other jobs?

00:42:20.000 So let me ask you just amongst your family members that do work those 60 hours a week, what do they have to say?

00:42:26.000 What is their theory?

00:42:27.000 So my mom believes that there's a change in what young people want and what they're willing to go through.

00:42:35.000 My father is less than pleased that people, he believes that a 40-hour work week is not sustainable to be successful.

00:42:46.000 So in order to be successful, truly, you have to work more than 40 hours a week.

00:42:49.000 Yeah, and so this is an interesting point.

00:42:51.000 Let me first say where I think the conservative movement is moving in the right direction with this family-focused agenda, which is I think that we as conservatives, and Elizabeth Warren used to believe this before she didn't, we as conservatives should say, no, it's true.

00:43:05.000 And during her Native American times, she used to believe this, where she said that a woman should not have to get into the workforce to support a nuclear family if they don't want to.

00:43:19.000 Now, in the 1980s, you could support a family of four with 36 hours of work a week or 36 weeks of work a year.

00:43:28.000 I'm sorry, with 16 idle weeks a year.

00:43:31.000 Now it takes 53 weeks a year to support the same amount.

00:43:37.000 And so we as conservatives should agree that that's not a good thing.

00:43:41.000 So how do we actually go about solving it?

00:43:43.000 You know, without massive intervention into the economy, we should say, well, it is kind of this subset of companies that are continually kind of pushing forth this kind of agenda of forego having children, don't get married, come work for kind of this godless, soulless institution.

00:44:00.000 And, you know, absent of kind of saying that we should dramatically abolish private property, which would be a dumb thing, we should say, you know what?

00:44:07.000 We should explore ideas to try and make it easier to have children and have larger families.

00:44:13.000 And I think that you're starting to see this advocated in a variety of different ways on the conservative side.

00:44:18.000 But here's the difference, though, is that we as conservatives believe having families is an objective moral good.

00:44:26.000 The other side would say, no, you should get the money regardless.

00:44:28.000 And I don't think that that's the case at all.

00:44:31.000 We are seeing a massive problem with having children in our country, largely because it's too expensive to have children in our country.

00:44:39.000 Now, let me also say this, though, that spending $4.7 trillion in Washington, D.C. on top of another $6 trillion is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard in my life and will actually destroy the American worker, not help the American worker.

00:44:53.000 And we're in the middle of an inflation crisis right now.

00:44:55.000 But I think the jury's still out, but I probably agree with you that many people in our generation, they look down on manual work.

00:45:02.000 They look down on the muscular class.

00:45:04.000 They look down on people that work at their hands.

00:45:06.000 And I think that we as conservatives, we need to value the middle class.

00:45:10.000 Aristotle said that the middle class will be the future of society.

00:45:15.000 And honestly, President Trump did a wonderful job of prioritizing the American middle class.

00:45:20.000 He really did.

00:45:21.000 And talking about it and delivering results for them, which I think was terrific.

00:45:28.000 We have to do even more.

00:45:30.000 And I also just think it's laughable, to be perfectly honest, that people on the left, they talk a game like, oh yeah, we want to protect families and do all these things.

00:45:38.000 And yet they're the ones that do not actually want to get serious about reining in the pharmaceutical companies as they're mandating the vaccine and their profiteering scheme all across the country.

00:45:50.000 They're the ones that don't want to rein in technology companies.

00:45:53.000 And then they're the ones that actually wanted to forcibly lock down the American economy where we lost 600,000 small businesses in the last year and a half.

00:46:01.000 The forcible lockdowns of the American economy will go down as one of the worst mistakes in American history with almost zero net benefit and casualties of damage to our generation and generations to come.

00:46:14.000 Mental health issues, suicide issues, alcoholism, drug issues, all to try to kill a mouse with a missile.

00:46:20.000 When in reality, we should have been very clear that a certain age demographic is very much at risk from the Fauci virus.

00:46:26.000 That if you're younger, you are not at sizable risk.

00:46:29.000 Instead of misleading people about what the vaccine could do, we should have had a very serious conversation about ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, vitamin D, and other treatments.

00:46:40.000 And the numbers speak for themselves.

00:46:44.000 Vermont is the most vaccinated state in the country, and now you're experiencing the highest virus rates that you have in the entire cycle of this pandemic.

00:46:54.000 And it's unfortunate.

00:46:55.000 And I'm not trying to say that's a good thing by any means.

00:46:58.000 I think it's an awful and terrible thing.

00:47:00.000 But instead, we were never honest about what we were really dealing with.

00:47:03.000 I think it's a mixture of all those things.

00:47:04.000 And thank you for your question for being here.

00:47:06.000 Thank you.

00:47:14.000 Okay.

00:47:15.000 Sorry, I had to see if I could hold it, but I guess not.

00:47:17.000 Hands free.

00:47:18.000 But hey, good to meet you.

00:47:19.000 You've been talking a lot about activists and you've been kind of, I guess, going on a bit about this young little row going on.

00:47:26.000 My big question for you is, what's the difference between them, the yellow shirts, or even you?

00:47:32.000 You talk so much about how they're wrong, how their activists are going against you.

00:47:38.000 What's the big difference?

00:47:40.000 Well, first of all, I've never tried to cancel a speaker because I disagree with them or try to go to a hotel and try to cancel their contract.

00:47:57.000 Hey, okay, I'm back.

00:47:58.000 I was just...

00:47:59.000 So you're talking about this, though.

00:48:00.000 You're going against CRT.

00:48:02.000 Not just doing exactly what they're doing.

00:48:05.000 They're talking against it.

00:48:08.000 You do realize they went to the previous hotel and pressured them to try to pull the contract, right?

00:48:13.000 No, like...

00:48:14.000 No, you're not.

00:48:14.000 Yeah, you're not aware.

00:48:15.000 Okay, got it.

00:48:16.000 So would you like that?

00:48:18.000 And also, let me just say this.

00:48:20.000 So what makes us different?

00:48:21.000 Well, first of all, our entire worldview is, as I mentioned, rooted in a belief of the natural law, liberty, freedom, gratitude, American history, self-empowerment, and fulfillment, where as the worldview of the opposition, which I'm glad they came here tonight, is not.

00:48:37.000 It's the opposite of all those things.

00:48:38.000 But as you'll notice, we let them into our event because we think it's important that different ideas are actually allowed a platform to be able to be heard.

00:48:46.000 Does that answer your question?

00:48:49.000 I don't have a way.

00:48:50.000 Okay, thank you.

00:48:51.000 I couldn't answer you for...

00:48:52.000 But no, it actually doesn't.

00:48:53.000 My question is, at the very basis, is, yeah, you all can laugh all you want.

00:48:59.000 They're laughing because you're hilariously wrong.

00:49:01.000 Hey, can I hold you?

00:49:04.000 No.

00:49:05.000 Okay.

00:49:05.000 No, so, Dale, okay, great.

00:49:08.000 Let me just ask you a question.

00:49:09.000 When have I ever advocated for canceling a speaker on a college campus?

00:49:12.000 I don't want to.

00:49:13.000 Never.

00:49:13.000 That's the difference.

00:49:14.000 Thanks for coming.

00:49:15.000 Appreciate it.

00:49:15.000 Okay, next question.

00:49:24.000 Okay, next question.

00:49:27.000 This is kind of a long one.

00:49:28.000 So I'm a libertarian, but I support CRT.

00:49:32.000 I think it gives a chance for the left to say, you know, what the heck is this and redeem themselves.

00:49:39.000 Across the country, you see parents coming together, talking to school boards, and, you know, their voices are being silenced.

00:49:48.000 You know, they're turning their mics off at the school boards, and it's really uniting the country, I think.

00:49:54.000 So it's like, you know, a flip.

00:49:56.000 Well, we're coming together to fight this, and I think it's very important that we do that.

00:50:03.000 Yeah, so do you think things like this to help liberals change their minds because of things that are so extreme?

00:50:14.000 Do you think that things like this actually help us?

00:50:18.000 Yeah, I hear you.

00:50:19.000 Yeah, that's kind of like saying, you know, the other side advocating for eugenics actually helps us, which is CRT is a cousin of eugenics.

00:50:27.000 I hear your viewpoint.

00:50:29.000 Some people say, yeah, it's a political gift to us.

00:50:31.000 Yeah, but we shouldn't even be having this conversation.

00:50:34.000 I mean, when you're dealing with treacherously evil ideas, yeah, I hope that there's some sort of unity against it.

00:50:39.000 I can't believe that 40% of Americans still support CRT.

00:50:43.000 But I think you're coming from a good place.

00:50:45.000 They're like, hey, we finally have something that unites, you know, the conservative libertarian factions together.

00:50:50.000 But I wish this wasn't even an issue.

00:50:53.000 We're in a very dangerous situation, in my personal opinion, where we're starting to have black-only graduation ceremonies, black-only dormitories. 1.00

00:51:01.000 I don't think that's a good thing.

00:51:02.000 I think that actually brings us closer to any form of racial chaos and societal division.

00:51:07.000 But I think your point, I understand it, I might disagree with it, where you say, hey, it's a good thing because it's actually uniting people and it's showing how intolerant the other side is.

00:51:15.000 Let's be careful with that argument, though, because now it's become policy.

00:51:18.000 They're hiring airline pilots at United Airlines based on skin color, not on competency.

00:51:24.000 Now, I don't know about you.

00:51:25.000 When I fly on a United Airlines plane, I don't care what the color of the skin of my pilot is.

00:51:29.000 I want them to be able to land the plane.

00:51:31.000 And so I don't know if I disagree with you.

00:51:35.000 I see what you're saying, though, that it does wake people up.

00:51:37.000 It gets them going, but we're on very dangerous footing, though.

00:51:41.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:51:42.000 I appreciate it.

00:51:43.000 Thank you.

00:51:48.000 Internet privacy is extremely important.

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00:53:42.000 Hey, Mel, thank you for coming here to Walkland.

00:53:45.000 Appreciate it.

00:53:45.000 Great to see you.

00:53:46.000 I'm an immigrant from Eastern Europe, and I've been here for 10 years and a little bit.

00:53:51.000 And if anybody would have told me 10 years ago that I would come a day where I would live in America and American citizens would be in favor of communism, I would have laughed in their face.

00:54:02.000 So obviously I have my own opinion about why this is happening, but what is your take?

00:54:05.000 Why do you think you as citizens, man, are in favor of communism in America?

00:54:09.000 It feels that it's getting more and more.

00:54:11.000 What country are you from?

00:54:12.000 Romania.

00:54:13.000 Romania.

00:54:14.000 So Chuchetscu, you know all about.

00:54:16.000 So I'm curious, what would your message be to young socialists that don't know what communism is?

00:54:21.000 If you don't learn from history, nothing will save you.

00:54:31.000 So let me ask you, your family grew up in Romania and had to go through all those horrors.

00:54:36.000 And most people are totally unfamiliar with the actual suffering, the actual difficulty, the actual issues that people had because of communism.

00:54:47.000 And it's very interesting that Americans that have never had to wet waiting breadlines until now, that have never had to actually understand what suffering is, they are very quick to try to shut down and shout down opinions they disagree with.

00:55:03.000 But I want to actually ask you, I want you to just say very briefly, what was it like for your family to grow up in these sort of ideas?

00:55:10.000 Why do you hate communism?

00:55:11.000 Why?

00:55:12.000 Because of the suffering that your family went through?

00:55:15.000 So obviously, I was only one year old when communism ended in Romania, so I can't really speak from previous experience, but I have yet to meet anybody in my home country that was in favor of communism.

00:55:25.000 So let me put it this way.

00:55:27.000 When they came in power, they seized all private property.

00:55:30.000 FY.

00:55:33.000 And after that, you had punch card, guys, to get bread.

00:55:37.000 Yes.

00:55:38.000 And you would get, you would be rationed based on the size of your family.

00:55:42.000 No meat, no eggs, no stuff like that.

00:55:45.000 And like I said, nobody's in favor of it, except...

00:55:48.000 So let me ask you a question.

00:55:49.000 Are you thankful that you live in America?

00:55:51.000 Yeah.

00:55:52.000 That's what makes you different than them.

00:55:56.000 Thank you.

00:55:56.000 Appreciate you being here tonight, man.

00:55:58.000 God bless you.

00:55:58.000 Thank you.

00:56:02.000 Next question.

00:56:04.000 All right.

00:56:04.000 So first off, great pleasure having you here, sir.

00:56:08.000 But my main question is, like, I agree completely with everything you said.

00:56:12.000 And there are a lot of issues that are going on.

00:56:14.000 But with all us essentially, no offense, whining about it, how would you go about reversing years of damage to our education system that has restored our values?

00:56:24.000 Because I agree with you, sir, but the solution that you gave wasn't necessarily clear.

00:56:27.000 So I'm just curious, like, what do you think about that?

00:56:29.000 Because this is an institutional problem at this point.

00:56:31.000 Of the education system?

00:56:33.000 Yes, sir.

00:56:33.000 Yeah, I mean, look at the extent that it's gone in the last two years where we've destroyed our own heroes for essentially either misinformation or just seeing one part of it, whereas people are just showed one part and then that's all they're showed, and they're expected to keep with that.

00:56:49.000 Yeah, look, I just want to say, I'm not exactly sure the right way to take that, but yeah, the education system is a massive threat to our liberty in the American way of life.

00:56:59.000 Every parent who can should homeschool their kids if they can.

00:57:06.000 And I think that it's incredibly important that we recognize that the public sector education system is the life source of these ideas that you then see manifested on television and in the halls of Congress.

00:57:22.000 What happens in college campuses, on college campuses, does not stay on college campuses.

00:57:27.000 It goes into the halls of Congress and corporate boardrooms.

00:57:30.000 And look, it really comes back to this question of what is education?

00:57:32.000 Education comes from a Latin word, which means to lead forth.

00:57:35.000 And we need to lead forth children and young people to truth, to people of good character, to understand what is good, what is objectively true in this world, and also a true reading of history, which is not happening anymore.

00:57:46.000 And so, yeah, I mean, I'm well in support of abolishing the Department of Education.

00:57:50.000 I have been for quite some time.

00:57:52.000 I think abolishing the Department of Education would be a vast step forward.

00:57:55.000 And I think that we need to empower parents more to have says in their children's education, have say in their children's education, and understanding that the current regime is benefiting tremendously from this sort of power structure.

00:58:08.000 So thank you so much.

00:58:09.000 Thank you.

00:58:09.000 Appreciate it.

00:58:16.000 Okay.

00:58:17.000 Hi, Disar.

00:58:18.000 So, again, my question is also based on the education system as that gentleman that was just up here.

00:58:25.000 But when it comes down to it, would you say that the largest problem that we have with our education system currently today is the fact that we put too much government control into it and not enough individual control into someone's own education?

00:58:41.000 Because, you know, if you look at instances in the past, such as with several of our founding fathers, or even going up to the 1930s and 1940s, most of the educated populace in the United States had come from people who decided to educate themselves and not depend on a big, essentially parent government to do so.

00:59:03.000 Yeah, I mean, look, the bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

00:59:06.000 And so the more we send young people to these corrupt education institutions that don't just teach bad ideas, but also get our students endlessly into debt, it creates this kind of cycle of dependency.

00:59:18.000 And so, yeah, I also just want to kind of contribute to the conversation that you don't need to go to college to succeed in America.

00:59:24.000 That we need more welders and electricians and plumbers, police officers, and we love our police.

00:59:29.000 Don't we love our police here?

00:59:30.000 We love our police.

00:59:37.000 But I want to just say this.

00:59:38.000 We need to develop people of strong character, which is something the education system has lost.

00:59:43.000 Okay, next question.

00:59:43.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:59:46.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:59:47.000 So I agree with everything that you present all the time.

00:59:51.000 I watch you constantly.

00:59:52.000 This is my son.

00:59:53.000 My kids and I watch all of this.

00:59:56.000 I didn't know I was a conservative until I watched you.

00:59:59.000 And I'm going to be 40 years old.

01:00:01.000 So, and I'm not from Vermont.

01:00:03.000 I'm from Philadelphia.

01:00:05.000 So I've lived here for a few years.

01:00:07.000 I've been doing exactly this.

01:00:09.000 I fought in Burlington.

01:00:10.000 People may have read me in the newspaper.

01:00:11.000 I fought against the BLM flag. 0.54

01:00:13.000 I wanted it down and I wanted people to understand what it really meant.

01:00:17.000 I come from a mixed family.

01:00:19.000 So CRT breaks my heart and it kills me.

01:00:21.000 I pulled my kids out of school at home school.

01:00:23.000 But I have one very...

01:00:29.000 Because I'm from a mixed family, I have one question for you.

01:00:33.000 And I don't know how you can answer it for me.

01:00:36.000 I would like to understand where the Conservative Party sits with our treaties, because I have two members of my family that are Native American, my brother and my husband.

01:00:48.000 And I follow a lot of the things that go on.

01:00:50.000 I know about treaties.

01:00:51.000 I teach my kids about the Natives and the real history.

01:00:54.000 You know, I push for real history, not this narrative, you know, of what's going on.

01:00:59.000 So where does the conservatives sit with this?

01:01:02.000 Because I never hear anything about it.

01:01:04.000 And I feel like I'm a lone voice advocating for them.

01:01:07.000 I haven't been asked that question in a while.

01:01:09.000 I probably sympathize with you more than most, which is that, you know, the Native American population was given a real, obviously, raw deal and was exploited and was abused.

01:01:21.000 Where the treaties are, I can't really comment on that because I'm not as well read into that, especially this part of the world.

01:01:26.000 I will say that in states like Oklahoma, Arizona, New Mexico, this is a top issue because of the sizable Native American population. 1.00

01:01:34.000 But so I'm happy to talk to you privately about that.

01:01:37.000 Not exactly something I'm that well read up on, to be perfectly honest.

01:01:41.000 But I do want to say thank you for your kind words at the beginning of kind of how I was able to impact kind of your beliefs and what you believe in.

01:01:47.000 And I believe it's a conservative value to respect people that were here indigenously and strike that balance.

01:01:54.000 And I also want to say this, though, that we have done a disservice through the Bureau of Indian Affairs by almost instituting socialism on these Native American reservations.

01:02:05.000 Those good intentions have done the opposite.

01:02:07.000 It's actually hurt a lot of Native American and Indigenous populations across the country when it might have been intended to help.

01:02:13.000 They have the highest rates of alcoholism, some of the worst outputs healthcare-wise, especially if you visit a Native American reservation, especially out west, they're unfortunately some of the most depressing places you could go to.

01:02:24.000 So happy to talk privately about that.

01:02:26.000 But thank you for being here tonight and your kind words.

01:02:28.000 God bless you.

01:02:28.000 Thank you.

01:02:37.000 Hi.

01:02:38.000 I'm hoping that you could explain without using a single buzzword or a conservative talking point what CRT is.

01:02:47.000 So you want to go back to Herbert Marcuse, the Frankfurt School, Michelle Foucault, Jacques Derrida.

01:02:51.000 I want to ask my question.

01:02:54.000 No, I'm just asking you, how far back do you want me to go?

01:02:56.000 I want you to explain what CRT is.

01:02:58.000 What CRT is comes out of critical theory, which came out of the Frankfurt School, which is a belief that there are systems that exist both institutionally and systemically, and that through critical theory, which also has critical law theory, through the kind of the changing of how we view society must be through a racial lens and not through an economic lens or through a legal lens.

01:03:23.000 And if you look very clearly at the writings of Marcuse, at the writings of Spinoza, especially in the early 1990s where this started to pop up, there was this idea that we must give preference based on the melanin content of people's skin, not on actions, not on choices.

01:03:37.000 And instead, because America is so unequal, because it is so inequitable, that these writers and authors that were the beginning people that actually started this term critical race theory 50 or 60 years ago believed that this would be a true Marxist type movement that would help happen in this country.

01:03:54.000 It was kind of fostered and started in many different universities across this country.

01:03:58.000 Marcuse came from the Frankfurt School.

01:03:59.000 One of his disciples is still alive, Angela Davis.

01:04:02.000 And it really kind of comes back to the couple beliefs that CRT believes in to make it overly simple.

01:04:07.000 Number one, that there is no such thing as absolute truth.

01:04:09.000 That number two, power dynamics are more important than anything else.

01:04:12.000 Number three, skin color should be something that has a top priority in how we characterize people and their worth and their dignity.

01:04:20.000 Number four, that kind of American history and kind of how we teach it is completely wrong.

01:04:25.000 Five, that America is systemically racist, and I could continue from that.

01:04:28.000 That right there is a 35,000-foot view.

01:04:30.000 Happy to go deeper.

01:04:32.000 But that is a history of critical race theory.

01:04:34.000 And it's evolved into terms of wokeism, diversity, equity, inclusion, the idea of America being systemically racist, 1619 project.

01:04:42.000 They're all outgrowths of the postmodern deconstructionist type viewpoint that started in the 1960s from Marcuse, who was a Marxist type believer in the Frankfurt School, was expelled, found domicile here in America and implemented in our colleges.

01:04:54.000 How'd I do?

01:05:02.000 I do appreciate that response.

01:05:04.000 Thank you.

01:05:05.000 You did use the word wokeism, which is a conservative buzzword, unfortunately.

01:05:10.000 I'm going to take my seat.

01:05:12.000 Thank you.

01:05:14.000 How about this?

01:05:15.000 How about this? 1.00

01:05:16.000 Garbage. 1.00

01:05:20.000 Next question. 0.93

01:05:25.000 Hello, it's an honor to be here.

01:05:28.000 I'm from Dartmouth College, and I have to say I'm so proud to be an American.

01:05:32.000 I feel so blessed to have been born in this country.

01:05:35.000 And as you know.

01:05:41.000 And as you know, our institutions of higher education are overwhelmingly liberal and left-leaning.

01:05:47.000 So my question is, what advice do you have for students like me, for students like many of us, who are deeply conservative at overwhelmingly liberal colleges where our peers feel that because of their left-leaning beliefs, they're often morally and intellectually superior, where securing our borders is fascist and we're protecting the unborn is hateful.

01:06:09.000 What advice do you have for us?

01:06:11.000 So you go to Dartmouth.

01:06:12.000 I do.

01:06:12.000 Is it pretty liberal?

01:06:13.000 Very liberal.

01:06:14.000 Yeah, very liberal.

01:06:15.000 First of all, you deserve to be applauded.

01:06:17.000 The fact that you're an outspoken conservative at Dartmouth is a big deal.

01:06:21.000 It is.

01:06:22.000 And I want everyone watching online and watching, you know, listening to the podcast to understand the significance of what you're doing.

01:06:30.000 You have decided to be the same person in public that you are in private.

01:06:33.000 It's a big deal.

01:06:34.000 You've decided to be courageous enough to come to an event like this to say, you know what?

01:06:39.000 I believe this.

01:06:40.000 I might lose friends.

01:06:41.000 I might be ridiculed.

01:06:41.000 I might be mocked.

01:06:43.000 So you're going to have to make a decision.

01:06:44.000 I think you've already made that decision.

01:06:46.000 The decision you have to make is whether or not you are willing to live through or to survive, I guess you could say, the kind of backlash, the sort of price that you're going to have to pay.

01:06:59.000 You're going to be tougher because of it.

01:06:59.000 But guess what?

01:07:01.000 And here's my advice to you: grow your turning point USA group.

01:07:04.000 Be unapologetic in your beliefs.

01:07:06.000 You're going to be called every single name in the books.

01:07:08.000 Learn something new every single day.

01:07:10.000 Dive deep into the ideas.

01:07:11.000 This will make you a more magnanimous and complete and properly sold individual.

01:07:17.000 And you'll be a happier person because of that.

01:07:19.000 So, God bless you.

01:07:20.000 Thanks so much for being here.

01:07:28.000 Hey, Charlie.

01:07:29.000 Pleasure to meet you.

01:07:30.000 I'm a UVM student.

01:07:31.000 Might be one of the only ones here who doesn't hate you.

01:07:36.000 First off, I wanted to thank you.

01:07:39.000 My wife and I did.

01:07:40.000 We just got married in July.

01:07:42.000 You actually gifted us books.

01:07:44.000 MAGA Doctrine.

01:07:45.000 I emailed you.

01:07:46.000 You sent us the books.

01:07:47.000 Don't know if you remember, but thank you for that gift.

01:07:50.000 We felt it very important to get married young, 2019.

01:07:50.000 Thank you.

01:07:54.000 So anyway, my question for you is: my major is computer science.

01:07:59.000 I'm a senior.

01:08:01.000 I don't really know what to do for a job because my entire industry is basically saturated with libs. 0.99

01:08:07.000 I don't want to work for Tim Cook or Sundar Peach Eye or whatever his name is at Google or whatever, yeah.

01:08:14.000 So I was wondering, give me something to do.

01:08:17.000 Tech's a big issue.

01:08:19.000 That's my job now.

01:08:20.000 Okay, sure.

01:08:21.000 So where can I work in my computer science now?

01:08:24.000 So I will give you something, which is this: which is outside of the woke tech companies, there are thousands of small and mid-level businesses of people that are not totally corrupted by this.

01:08:35.000 Go find one of them and work for them.

01:08:36.000 And you might say, How do I find them?

01:08:38.000 There is an ever-growing job market of employers that are trying to find non-activistic employees that are going to do their job, that are married, and that want to work really hard and advance in their career.

01:08:49.000 And we are being contacted by these employers every single day.

01:08:52.000 So you might say, How do I find them?

01:08:53.000 Go to the middle level of companies, companies that have like 250 to 500 employees.

01:08:58.000 Apple, Google, Facebook, Dropbox, Salesforce, Twitter.

01:09:02.000 You know what you're going to get out of those.

01:09:03.000 But here's the good news: you have a skill.

01:09:06.000 You went to college and you got something out of it, but not everyone gets out.

01:09:09.000 You didn't go study North African lesbian poetry or central Nicaraguan, you know, underwater basket weaving or whatever.

01:09:18.000 You studied computer science.

01:09:20.000 So you're going to be very wealthy and very happy.

01:09:22.000 Just be very wise and prudent in the type of job that you choose.

01:09:28.000 And make sure you choose a job that respects you for who you are, your viewpoint, and that you do not have to pretend to be somebody else.

01:09:34.000 Thank you for those kind words.

01:09:36.000 And I want to say this: you getting married at a young age, you'll be blessed because of that.

01:09:39.000 God bless you.

01:09:40.000 Thank you.

01:09:49.000 Hi, I'm a UVM student.

01:09:51.000 I was talking to you before.

01:09:53.000 I'm sure you noticed that.

01:09:54.000 But I'm going to try to keep this.

01:09:56.000 Heckling, yes.

01:09:57.000 Yeah.

01:09:58.000 But I'm just going to hope you respond in a way that's not so just conservative talking point and more of a conversation way.

01:10:06.000 Hopefully.

01:10:07.000 Maybe?

01:10:09.000 Sure.

01:10:10.000 Okay.

01:10:13.000 So before there was a question about like Native American communities and treaties and stuff like that.

01:10:19.000 And you were talking about how historically Native Americans have been kind of like screwed over by the U.S. government and stuff like that.

01:10:26.000 Don't you think that that history will impact how Native Americans live today and make it more difficult to succeed in America?

01:10:33.000 Don't you think that would influence that?

01:10:35.000 Well, I suppose a question I'll ask back at you: we've made tremendous accommodations, such as sovereignty of Native American land, entire department of the federal government dedicated just solely to that.

01:10:46.000 Do you recognize that there's been great efforts to try to accommodate that?

01:10:50.000 I recognize those efforts, but obviously they haven't worked.

01:10:54.000 So why haven't they worked?

01:10:56.000 Because it's either not enough or the way that we're doing it is incorrect.

01:10:59.000 Like we need to treat it more as an equity thing instead of just saying, oh, it's a culture, like instead of blaming it on people's individual working and like make like change it societally and help them in a way that actually matters.

01:11:14.000 So you do know that there's universal health care at Native American reservations, right?

01:11:18.000 Yeah, but it's not very good because they don't have access to because it's socialistic.

01:11:23.000 No.

01:11:27.000 They have universal health care in plenty of European countries and it works just fine.

01:11:31.000 The flaws of the Native American. 1.00

01:11:35.000 So I'm curious, how did Vermont's experiment in universal health care go?

01:11:42.000 I'm not from Vermont, so I don't know these things.

01:11:44.000 I didn't hear your response.

01:11:45.000 Say that.

01:11:46.000 I'm not from Vermont, so I don't know these things.

01:11:47.000 I moved here like two months ago.

01:11:49.000 Yeah, I still can't hear what you said.

01:11:50.000 Say it.

01:11:51.000 You're wearing a mask.

01:11:52.000 It's kind of hard.

01:11:52.000 Can you say that again?

01:11:53.000 I moved here like two months ago.

01:11:54.000 I'm not from Vermont, so I don't know these things.

01:11:56.000 Right.

01:11:56.000 So Vermont tried single payer.

01:11:57.000 They had to abolish it.

01:11:58.000 It was a total disaster.

01:11:59.000 So look, I think the best way to help Native American communities is to help all people through empowerment and education.

01:12:05.000 Instead, we tried a heavy-handed government approach of intervention of the Bureau of Native American Affairs of universal health care.

01:12:11.000 And if you want to go see a socialist dystopia, go to a Native American reservation. 1.00

01:12:16.000 Maybe you have, maybe you worked on Native American reservations before.

01:12:19.000 I've been to plenty.

01:12:20.000 They're depressing.

01:12:21.000 They're government addicted, unfortunately, in more ways than one. 0.99

01:12:24.000 They're very, very corrupt. 0.95

01:12:26.000 And this is something I want to ask you. 0.95

01:12:27.000 Would you self-identify as a socialist?

01:12:29.000 Is that fair to say?

01:12:31.000 Okay.

01:12:31.000 Yeah.

01:12:32.000 I'm not a liberal.

01:12:33.000 I'm more socialist.

01:12:35.000 Socialist and liberal are different words, and I think conservatives confuse that a lot.

01:12:38.000 They're completely different things.

01:12:40.000 Okay.

01:12:41.000 Okay.

01:12:42.000 No, we don't.

01:12:43.000 So I'm just curious, as someone who would say you're a socialist, what would be a country you think works well that's a socialist country?

01:12:52.000 There are no socialist countries right now.

01:12:53.000 There are no socialists.

01:12:56.000 Has there ever been a socialist country?

01:12:58.000 Truly socialist?

01:12:59.000 No.

01:13:00.000 Okay.

01:13:01.000 So let me, so your worldview is on something that's never existed and currently doesn't exist?

01:13:10.000 Is it a bad thing to be like pro-change?

01:13:14.000 Like people who lived in like only monarchies wanted democracy and stuff like that.

01:13:20.000 That wasn't like a bad thing.

01:13:22.000 Okay, so just so we're clear, yeah, the type of change you're advocating is horrifying.

01:13:27.000 But so it's never existed, doesn't.

01:13:31.000 And so I would say Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, formerly Vietnam, the Soviet Union, those are not and were not socialist countries.

01:13:42.000 Those countries, the disastrous effects in those countries were directly contributed by U.S. intervention.

01:13:50.000 There are multiple coups done by the CIA in these countries.

01:13:55.000 Let's take, hold on, guys, hold on.

01:13:57.000 Let's take what's just, I'm just curious.

01:14:00.000 So how on earth did Fidel Castro taking over Cuba have anything to do with U.S. intervention?

01:14:07.000 There was plenty of sanctions.

01:14:09.000 Like economically, Cuba was completely cut off.

01:14:12.000 They tried to assassinate him plenty of times.

01:14:14.000 There were so many.

01:14:15.000 The fact that they're communist.

01:14:17.000 Yeah.

01:14:18.000 We had what to do with that.

01:14:20.000 We didn't have anything to do with that, but after a communist regime took over, they had a...

01:14:27.000 Yeah, so let me ask you another.

01:14:29.000 So first of all, Zimbabwe was not communist?

01:14:32.000 Burkina Faso.

01:14:33.000 Thomas Sankara.

01:14:34.000 Say that again?

01:14:35.000 Thomas Sankara, Burkina Faso.

01:14:37.000 Before he was assassinated, he was actually...

01:14:39.000 How about Mugabe?

01:14:40.000 He wasn't a communist?

01:14:42.000 How about Joseph Stalin?

01:14:43.000 He wasn't a communist.

01:14:44.000 He called himself a community.

01:14:45.000 About Mao Zedong, he wasn't a communist?

01:14:47.000 Yeah.

01:14:48.000 Pol Pot?

01:14:49.000 Plenty of terrible people have called themselves plenty of different names.

01:14:53.000 North Carolina.

01:14:54.000 Oh, so you get to be the judge.

01:14:55.000 Got it.

01:14:56.000 Democratic.

01:14:56.000 They're not democratic.

01:14:58.000 Right.

01:14:59.000 So I just want to make sure we complete the point.

01:15:01.000 You believe in something that doesn't exist, has never existed.

01:15:04.000 And even though the people that call themselves the things that you believe, you say they weren't really that, which is the most important point.

01:15:10.000 Socialism is always judged against an impossible utopia, and they judge markets against a reality.

01:15:17.000 And here's the truth of the matter: that markets, which you enjoy comfortably in Western society, is the most proven affluent-creating machine in human history.

01:15:26.000 And I would just challenge you to do one thing: please stop believing in a utopian nightmare and start looking at things around you that are good, that are true, that are beautiful, that work, and are consistent with the natural law.

01:15:38.000 You'll be a much happier person if you do that.

01:15:40.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

01:15:41.000 I appreciate it.

01:15:49.000 Pleasure to meet you.

01:15:50.000 I just have one quick question.

01:15:52.000 What is your opinion on mandatory vaccinations in the military?

01:15:55.000 Personally, it was almost mandatory at my college unless you wanted to use a religious exemption.

01:16:00.000 What is your view on that?

01:16:02.000 Yeah, so we at Turning Point USA, we've taken an organizational view that no person should be forced to get the vaccine against their will.

01:16:16.000 And it is immoral and it is wrong and it is evil to force people to get vaccines, experimental medicine.

01:16:25.000 You might be pro-vaccine here tonight, whatever.

01:16:26.000 I'm not here to convince you otherwise.

01:16:28.000 The fact is, don't force me otherwise.

01:16:31.000 Don't use force of losing a job, government force, or all of these sorts of different ways to try and mock and ridicule and push people in a direction to do that.

01:16:42.000 So are you in the military right now?

01:16:44.000 No.

01:16:44.000 I'm not.

01:16:45.000 Okay.

01:16:45.000 Well, for people that are in the military, this is a very serious thing.

01:16:48.000 And it's time for elected officials that are conservatives to start to stand up and to defend the medical rights of servicemen and women across the country.

01:16:57.000 And no one should be forced to get it against their will.

01:17:00.000 I've been very public on this issue.

01:17:02.000 And the final thing I'll say with this, it was kind of with this, is that I was always told to believe my body, my choice, you know, everyone's individual sovereignty.

01:17:13.000 Instead, now it's let's do whatever Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Johnson Johnson want.

01:17:19.000 And the latest study shows the Johnson Johnson vaccine is 3% effective, 3% effective.

01:17:25.000 You know what's effective?

01:17:26.000 They never want to talk about natural immunity.

01:17:28.000 They never want to talk about azithromycin.

01:17:30.000 They never want to talk about hydroxychloroquine.

01:17:33.000 They never want to talk about ivermectin.

01:17:34.000 They never want to talk about aspirin, which is now proven to be a very effective treatment to reduce hospitalizations.

01:17:41.000 And you can look at the clinical data itself.

01:17:43.000 Instead, they are trying to keep people in a perpetual state of fear and control by locking us down, masking us up, and firing people based on vaccines.

01:17:51.000 We must take a stand against that.

01:17:53.000 God bless you.

01:17:54.000 Thank you so much.

01:18:03.000 Hi, very nice to meet you.

01:18:05.000 Oh, sorry.

01:18:06.000 Okay, great.

01:18:07.000 Hi, very nice to meet you.

01:18:10.000 So I don't want to go back to, because I was going to address what the young woman was saying.

01:18:19.000 I was born in the UK, so I know what socialist medicine is like.

01:18:24.000 It does not work.

01:18:26.000 Okay.

01:18:28.000 Also, also, my parents are from Jamaica and my grandparents are from Cuba.

01:18:34.000 My dad's parents had to flee Cuba.

01:18:38.000 His uncles had their property, their land, their money, everything taken from them.

01:18:47.000 So we know socialism, communism, Marxism does not work.

01:18:56.000 Awesome.

01:18:57.000 Back, I also want to talk on the note of critical race theory.

01:19:03.000 UVM is the worst place possible.

01:19:07.000 As a, I am very much a conservative.

01:19:11.000 I'm also Jewish, as you can see.

01:19:14.000 And I have experienced, so these people who are quote unquote woke have actually been racist to me.

01:19:22.000 They have been anti-Semitic and they have been racist.

01:19:27.000 Including instructors too, people who are supposed to be teaching us.

01:19:32.000 I'm a pre-med student.

01:19:33.000 I'm not coming here to do foolishness under basket weaving.

01:19:36.000 I expect to be taught and not be taught with some twisted agenda behind it.

01:19:43.000 And that's what I've been taught.

01:19:45.000 And I try to sparse out what I can and move on and make sure I'm going ahead to get my medical degree.

01:19:52.000 That's all I wanted to say.

01:19:53.000 Well, God bless you.

01:19:54.000 Do you have a question?

01:19:55.000 Or no?

01:19:57.000 God bless you.

01:19:58.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

01:19:59.000 Thank you.

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01:22:51.000 Good evening, sir.

01:22:53.000 I gotta say, I'm a little sad that my friends from UVM left because this question was geared a little bit towards them.

01:22:58.000 But I guess I can take my mask off now.

01:23:04.000 So this question might be a little bit enraging to especially my friends on the left and maybe some people on the right as well.

01:23:12.000 But I come from the great state of New York where I interned for our Republican Congresswoman, Claudia Tenney.

01:23:18.000 Love her to death.

01:23:20.000 And when I worked for her, I was attacked by the left every day by keyboard warriors for allegedly being anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ, and anti-feminist.

01:23:28.000 The ironic side of this is I grew up in an inner city environment with a single mother who came from a socialist Yugoslavia where they murdered those who spoke out in favor of minority and LGBTQ rights. 0.84

01:23:39.000 And also shocking to hear it to a lot on the left.

01:23:42.000 I am a bisexual Republican with a wonderful girlfriend.

01:23:46.000 So that's a little scary to people, I guess.

01:23:49.000 But aside from all of this, the only identity I really can associate myself truly as an American at the end of the day.

01:23:55.000 So how will young conservatives and libertarians like myself save our comrades on the left from the horrid lives of socialism and identity politics that not everyone needs to conform to their individual way of life, which a lot of them do not seem to realize?

01:24:12.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

01:24:13.000 That's a great question.

01:24:14.000 And I just want to say, look, I think our first guy that asked that question was kind of spot on.

01:24:20.000 The reason why conservatives, libertarians are kind of agreeing at this very moment is because of this issue, is because they're trying to put in identity politics, trying to organize people based on, you know, unchangeable type characteristics.

01:24:34.000 And so I guess your question specifically was, what do we do about this kind of social tyranny that we're living through?

01:24:40.000 Well, you being here and speaking out, it drives them crazy, right?

01:24:44.000 Here's the very important thing, that they want to try to have social control over us.

01:24:48.000 They want to try to be able to say, you can't speak here, you can't do that, that we are the final say.

01:24:54.000 We have the heckler's veto, if you will.

01:24:57.000 Like, we're not going to put up with that.

01:24:58.000 Like, the more you try to resist us, the more we want to come to Burlington.

01:25:01.000 The more you try to cancel us, the more we actually want to show up.

01:25:04.000 And so I would just want to encourage you to keep on speaking out, regardless they call you anti-this, anti-that.

01:25:10.000 It's meaningless, garbage-type phrases that they try to use to suppress speech, that they try to use to control opposition and try to have good ideas not be spread.

01:25:19.000 But thank you for being here tonight, and glad you took the mask off.

01:25:22.000 So thank you.

01:25:29.000 Hi, my name is Stacey, and I am recently unemployed as of 7 a.m. this morning due to mandated vaccines brought upon my employer.

01:25:38.000 I kind of, do I have time to read a quick little tidbit from my employer's only perspective?

01:25:44.000 Hospitals in Vermont and nationwide have struggled to balance the imperative to have all staff vaccinated for COVID with the need to maintain service levels during the pandemic.

01:25:53.000 Our current outbreak of COVID in the hospital demonstrates a need for an organization-wide mandate for a COVID vaccination.

01:25:59.000 Unvaccinated retreat staff have infected other staff and patients.

01:26:03.000 Emissions have been disrupted.

01:26:04.000 So clearly avoiding mandated vaccinations is not prevented service impacts to our operation.

01:26:09.000 If anything, unvaccinated staff are a significant reason for disruption, illness, insectival costs, and effort related to the outbreak.

01:26:17.000 I am an unvaccinated staff member.

01:26:19.000 I lost my job.

01:26:20.000 I was unable to get a medical exemption because of my doctor's hands being tied by their administration at Dartmouth.

01:26:29.000 Where do we go from here?

01:26:31.000 And also, I wanted to add in that religious exemptions were denied.

01:26:36.000 Do we do here?

01:26:38.000 I want to say you have courage.

01:26:40.000 And if more Americans had courage like you, America would be in a much better place, truly.

01:26:46.000 And can I comments on this for a second?

01:26:49.000 I would love for you to call me.

01:26:51.000 I don't know where the kind of Vermont rebel spirit is standing up for fighting the man.

01:26:57.000 No, it's get the vaccine or you're a terrible person or we're fighting.

01:27:00.000 Like, really? 0.98

01:27:00.000 We're firing you. 0.98

01:27:01.000 Like, Vermont has now become not no longer the place of communes or the free spirit.

01:27:05.000 It's now the place of, no, obey what we tell you to do or else we're going to destroy your life.

01:27:10.000 And that kind of runs contrary to everything I thought that Vermont was always trying to advocate for.

01:27:15.000 Anti-corporate, individual choice, you know, do whatever drug you want to do whenever you want to do it, which I obviously disagree with.

01:27:22.000 But it's like, oh, no, you must take the vaccine or else we're going to punish you.

01:27:25.000 If you'll have a New Hampshire vaccine, or vaccine, Vermont.

01:27:27.000 I live in New Hampshire, but I could tell by your question.

01:27:30.000 Up until this morning in Vermont for six and a half years.

01:27:32.000 Yeah, okay.

01:27:33.000 So you're right across the border.

01:27:33.000 Got it.

01:27:34.000 Okay.

01:27:35.000 So what do you do?

01:27:37.000 The Lord will bless you for your strong stand.

01:27:39.000 I know that might not be comforting to you.

01:27:41.000 I know that you're like, I don't even, you know, maybe you're like, I don't believe that.

01:27:44.000 And I don't want to put words in your mouth, but sorry, go ahead.

01:27:47.000 No, I feel that I will be blessed.

01:27:49.000 And this is a new beginning for myself.

01:27:51.000 But I know that many others that I worked with were forced into it, not happy about it, wrote their emails about it afterwards.

01:27:57.000 And it put a lot of people in a very big predicament of choosing what they believe and what they believe is right for their body and their livelihood.

01:28:06.000 There are many that stood my ground and did not.

01:28:09.000 And they are losing employees, but it's this people, what do they do now?

01:28:14.000 Do you work for a hospital, you said?

01:28:16.000 I worked for the Brattleboro Retreat in Brattleboro, Vermont for six and a half years.

01:28:21.000 Well, I'm laughing.

01:28:23.000 I'm saying, wait, if we're in the middle of a pandemic, why are we firing hospital workers and healthcare workers, right?

01:28:29.000 What are we doing?

01:28:30.000 We have no option to mask or test every week.

01:28:32.000 There's many of us that were on board with doing that.

01:28:34.000 We will mask.

01:28:35.000 We will test.

01:28:37.000 And we're just, here we are.

01:28:39.000 Well, I want to just say this.

01:28:40.000 I'm hearing thousands of stories about this across the country.

01:28:43.000 You will find another job.

01:28:44.000 It is a new beginning.

01:28:45.000 And here's the thing: here's why you'll sleep well tonight.

01:28:48.000 You can say, I'm free.

01:28:49.000 I was not bullied.

01:28:51.000 I was not tyrannized.

01:28:52.000 I was not tormented.

01:28:53.000 I was not controlled.

01:28:54.000 That you are still in control of you.

01:28:56.000 That's a big deal.

01:28:57.000 And I know that you're going to pay a price for it.

01:29:00.000 I know it's not easy, but I want you to know you are not alone.

01:29:02.000 There are millions of Americans experiencing this alongside of you.

01:29:06.000 And that you are now going to be able to say, you know what?

01:29:08.000 They might take my job, but they'll never take my liberty, my agency, and my choice away from you.

01:29:13.000 God bless you.

01:29:14.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

01:29:15.000 I appreciate it.

01:29:23.000 What's up, Charlie?

01:29:25.000 As you might hear, I'm from Germany.

01:29:27.000 I'm actually from East Germany.

01:29:28.000 So my family, the last 110 years, has been through a monarchy.

01:29:34.000 They've been through fascism, national fascism, and socialism.

01:29:38.000 And in the end, they were finally free.

01:29:40.000 And take a wild guess which system they like the most.

01:29:44.000 Yes, it was freedom.

01:29:47.000 So what I'm worried about is right now, when I came to the United States in 2018 as a student here, I saw the U.S. as like a beacon of freedom in the world.

01:29:55.000 Like you guys were free.

01:29:57.000 You guys were patriots.

01:29:58.000 I love that.

01:29:59.000 Like in Germany, it's not like that anymore.

01:30:01.000 And now we came back, like I was a year in the military last year because of COVID and all that.

01:30:04.000 And I just got back.

01:30:06.000 And people like them, they tell me a socialist.

01:30:08.000 Like what in the world?

01:30:09.000 They're dismissing 300 million dead people done by Joseph Stalin, done by people in East Germany.

01:30:16.000 My family, we have deaths because of that regime.

01:30:19.000 So what can we do against it?

01:30:21.000 What can we, like foreigners like me here, do against that?

01:30:25.000 It's a plague.

01:30:26.000 And I'm afraid that the U.S. is not what it's like supposed to be anymore.

01:30:32.000 I want to just emphasize this point.

01:30:33.000 I'm going to ask you a question in a second, which is we have foreign students coming to America, fleeing totalitarianism through many generations to go be taught by our professors and bullied by our young people that they don't know what tyranny is.

01:30:48.000 And so I want to ask you this question, which is, did you ever expect to come to an American university and have to be taught what socialism actually is?

01:30:56.000 Exactly.

01:30:57.000 I never expected that.

01:30:58.000 The first thing I saw when I went into my faculty, right, like one of the history professors, he had a picture of Karl Marx in front of it, of Karl Marx.

01:31:08.000 Like where I'm from, I got taught about Marxism and all that.

01:31:12.000 And people here worshiping Karl Marx, like in the U.S., I can't believe it.

01:31:16.000 Absolutely wild.

01:31:17.000 Like, how?

01:31:19.000 Well, I'll say this, that I hope Americans start to wake up and realize that what they are trying to bring into this country, what they are trying to implement, has already not been tried, but there is a horror show in their wake.

01:31:32.000 And so let me ask you this.

01:31:34.000 If Bernie Sanders was listening, what would you tell him?

01:31:40.000 I would say, Bernie, come over, look and talk to the people.

01:31:43.000 Talk to the people who actually experience what you are preaching.

01:31:46.000 Like none of them, also, just like my Romanian friend here, none of them will tell him that socialism is a good thing. 1.00

01:31:53.000 And it's horrible that he's using the word socialism himself.

01:31:56.000 Well, here's one thing that touches me.

01:31:58.000 You love America more than most Americans do.

01:32:01.000 And God bless you for being here tonight.

01:32:03.000 Thank you.

01:32:09.000 Duncan Shane.

01:32:14.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:32:16.000 I moved to America in 2018.

01:32:18.000 And when I moved here, I was sure when I see like most young people and they take the Obamas or Dick Clinton as like people that fighting against racism.

01:32:30.000 I was like, do you even know what these people even do to Haiti? 0.99

01:32:33.000 Because I'm from Haiti.

01:32:35.000 So these people, the Igli Clinton, the Obama, these people, they stole billion, billion dollars. 0.56

01:32:41.000 That's Probably Hospital, school, you know, equip our police and everything.

01:32:46.000 They take everything. 0.98

01:32:47.000 So I was shocked when people say, oh, like the Wi-Fi can, the conservative people, they want that racist, they hate black people, all that beer. 0.97

01:32:59.000 So I was like, yo, you don't know what you're talking about. 1.00

01:33:01.000 You should shut up. 0.86

01:33:05.000 But I have a question to Charlie, because I realized something when I moved here, I still like, not feel, but it's a reality, it's a fact. 0.92

01:33:14.000 Like, there's a war against masculinity.

01:33:16.000 Like, if you are a man, like, you, you say, like, I'm a man, so I can do it.

01:33:20.000 Like, people say, oh, like, you're being toxic.

01:33:23.000 Do you have any idea for a guy like me?

01:33:25.000 Because like, anywhere I go, man, like, I'm a man.

01:33:28.000 I don't care whatever you said.

01:33:29.000 I'm a man, you know?

01:33:31.000 So you're a man.

01:33:36.000 Now, you said you're from Haiti, right?

01:33:40.000 And just like our other friends that spoke before, does it boil your blood to hear people talk negatively about this country?

01:33:46.000 You know, I'm, I always, I'm straight up. 0.99

01:33:50.000 You know, anytime people say BSI against me, especially young American, I want to punch you in the face. 0.98

01:33:55.000 But here, I'm going to jail. 0.99

01:33:56.000 I can do that, you know?

01:33:57.000 But it's, people, I mean, life hits so good.

01:34:02.000 That's why you take it for granted because privilege is invisible for those who have it.

01:34:08.000 So wake up every day, your fridge have food in everything.

01:34:11.000 You have electricity.

01:34:13.000 You can go to school.

01:34:14.000 Where I come from, I didn't have that chance.

01:34:16.000 I have to work like 15 miles every day to go to school to know how to wait.

01:34:21.000 But you, you have PlayStation in Expo, but you are complaining every day.

01:34:24.000 And you are BLM, you are NT5 and all that BS. 1.00

01:34:27.000 So, I mean, what is your take on that?

01:34:30.000 And so this goes back to my opening remarks, which is you've lived the tough life and now you have it better.

01:34:35.000 Every day you wake up thankful.

01:34:37.000 And that is the core bedrock, isn't it?

01:34:39.000 That's the difference, is that people that are not thankful to live in this country, they scoff at this.

01:34:43.000 They say, human suffering is my Netflix not loading fast enough.

01:34:48.000 My Uber Eats not getting there in time.

01:34:50.000 You know what difficulty is.

01:34:51.000 And you also know what the American ruling class has done to your home country.

01:34:56.000 You know what the Clintons have done to Haiti, which is a very real thing of exploitation and also of damage.

01:35:04.000 I want to answer your direct question, though.

01:35:06.000 We need strong men in America.

01:35:08.000 We need to have more men that are proud of being independent, of being competitive, strong, of being self-confident.

01:35:22.000 And men and women need each other.

01:35:24.000 And there is a war on men in our country.

01:35:27.000 It's real and it's profound.

01:35:29.000 Being masculine is not toxic.

01:35:31.000 Instead, we need the balance between the feminine and the masculine. 0.95

01:35:36.000 A good society has a balance between them both.

01:35:38.000 And what we're trying to do is try to destroy men through a variety of different ways.

01:35:41.000 And you see that now.

01:35:43.000 And you're going to be a tough one for them to break because you seem to me that you're not going to give into their sort of narrative and their nonsense.

01:35:52.000 But it's very touching.

01:35:53.000 You're now the third or fourth person that's come up and said, I wasn't born here, but you have no idea how good you have it here in America.

01:36:00.000 And one last thought, yes.

01:36:03.000 I mean, in Vermont, I've been called Salawood.

01:36:06.000 They call me all kind of names, Uncle Tom.

01:36:08.000 I don't even know what this thing is until I Googled him.

01:36:10.000 I was like, oh, that's nothing.

01:36:13.000 I mean, life goes on.

01:36:14.000 But I mean, as a black man, it's hard in Vermont to be a conservative.

01:36:18.000 I can tell you this.

01:36:19.000 But they can break me down.

01:36:20.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:36:21.000 How are you treated by white liberals? 1.00

01:36:23.000 They're the most racist people in F-Man. 1.00

01:36:25.000 That's all I can tell you. 0.99

01:36:31.000 I agree.

01:36:32.000 God bless you, my friend.

01:36:33.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

01:36:35.000 Thank you.

01:36:38.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:36:40.000 All right, so pretty good.

01:36:42.000 Well, as you can tell, I'm not from Vermont.

01:36:45.000 I'm actually from Northern California, rural Northern California.

01:36:48.000 So my question for you: so I'm employed by the federal government, and they press me to get a vaccine, and they press a lot of other people to get a vaccine.

01:36:58.000 They're firing people back and forth, but we have elected officials that do not want to take the vaccine.

01:37:03.000 So I wonder what's your take on that?

01:37:06.000 I mean, look, again, no one should be forced to get their vaccine against their will.

01:37:09.000 I have been doing everything I can to get elected officials to stand up for you, to stand up for your medical rights, to stand up for your autonomy.

01:37:16.000 And we need to make more noise, everybody.

01:37:18.000 If someone is calling for you, asking for money to go run for re-election, say, where do you stand on mandatory vaccines?

01:37:23.000 Why are you forcing young, able-bodied adults?

01:37:25.000 By the way, have you had COVID before?

01:37:27.000 Have you had it?

01:37:28.000 Yeah, I've had it.

01:37:28.000 So you have natural immunity, and yet you're still being forced to get vaccinated.

01:37:32.000 Is that right?

01:37:33.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:37:35.000 And so hold the line.

01:37:37.000 I'm telling you, here's some hope.

01:37:38.000 Here's some hope.

01:37:40.000 Delta Airlines just came out and reversed their policy against mandatory vaccines a couple days ago.

01:37:47.000 That these companies are starting to back down.

01:37:52.000 That this is becoming an unpopular position for them.

01:37:55.000 I know it's not easy, but I just want to say do what you believe is best in your own medical interest.

01:38:00.000 If that's getting vaccinated, then fine.

01:38:02.000 If it's not, then hold the line, and we have your back.

01:38:05.000 God bless you, man.

01:38:06.000 Thank you for being here.

01:38:07.000 All right, we'll get to a couple more.

01:38:10.000 We're doing a little overtime because Vermont is hard to get to.

01:38:14.000 Good afternoon.

01:38:15.000 I'm from Rutland, Vermont, and both of my parents, both of my Rutland, both my parents served in the military, and I'm not as brave as them, but I want to try to go for public office in Vermont, sadly.

01:38:29.000 But my question for you is, I've always had a hard time finding a good argument from a Republican view for healthcare.

01:38:37.000 What would your stance be on that?

01:38:39.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a great question.

01:38:41.000 I mean, first of all, I think we have to understand we have sick care, not healthcare in our country, that the way we eat is total garbage, and that a lot of the problems in our healthcare system are byproducts of poor nutrition and kind of this idea of being addicted to sugar and being addicted to things that are not really good for you at all whatsoever.

01:38:58.000 And by the way, the food pyramid is all wrong, just in case you were wondering.

01:39:01.000 The food pyramid is upside down.

01:39:03.000 The overindulgence in carbohydrates has made America an obese nation and very unhealthy.

01:39:09.000 And yeah, and also all the fast food in every corner, which is not good either.

01:39:13.000 So that's a huge part of it.

01:39:15.000 I think competition, obviously we need in the healthcare system, but I think we can agree with the left on challenging the hospital oligarchy, that hospitals are ripping people off inside and out.

01:39:25.000 And guess what?

01:39:26.000 The left doesn't always agree at this.

01:39:27.000 We need price transparency in our hospitals where people know exactly what things cost.

01:39:32.000 So you don't get billed something two weeks, three weeks, four weeks later.

01:39:36.000 Price transparency is critically important.

01:39:39.000 I would also argue that we need to try to have more doctors have the ability to treat people and not kind of have this gatekeeper type deal.

01:39:48.000 And so it's a very complicated issue.

01:39:50.000 I could give a whole speech on healthcare if necessary.

01:39:53.000 But I also think that we need to trust patients and practitioners to be able to have more choice and more ability.

01:40:00.000 And I'll give you an example of this.

01:40:02.000 Just in the last year, we have seen pharmacists lose their license and people get penalized and doctors for prescribing ivermectin hydroxychloroquine.

01:40:11.000 This is happening all across the country.

01:40:13.000 And so that's a very dangerous trend.

01:40:15.000 And so I would just kind of say, I've given a lot of speeches on healthcare, what's right, what's wrong, what we can do.

01:40:21.000 Single payer would be a disaster.

01:40:23.000 Nationalization of healthcare is an awful and terrible idea.

01:40:26.000 Instead, I think we need to go closer to something that crushes the kind of corporate dominant of Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Johnson Johnson, bio and tech, at the same time, trying to preserve a holistic view of what is healthy, what is a healthy individual, which starts with nutrition, how we educate our kids about it, so on and so forth.

01:40:44.000 So thank you for being here tonight.

01:40:45.000 I appreciate it.

01:40:46.000 Sorry, we got to get to the next question.

01:40:47.000 Sorry.

01:40:47.000 I just wanted to say thank you.

01:40:48.000 I'm sorry.

01:40:49.000 You said it's a thank you and God bless you and your new wife.

01:40:51.000 Oh, thank you.

01:40:52.000 Thanks.

01:40:54.000 Next question.

01:40:55.000 Hey, Charlie.

01:40:58.000 I want to just say, first off, I think we both have something in common, that we're both Flatlanders.

01:41:04.000 I didn't grow up here in Vermont.

01:41:05.000 Oh, okay.

01:41:06.000 I thought you were accusing me of being a flat earth.

01:41:08.000 That's something, you know, like, that's not true.

01:41:10.000 No, no, no, no, not flat earth, flatlands.

01:41:13.000 I also want to say I love this country.

01:41:15.000 I believe in free speech.

01:41:18.000 I have a deep passion for being an American.

01:41:21.000 I also disagree with a lot of what you say, but I do appreciate an opportunity for there to be dialogue.

01:41:27.000 I think that's really, really important.

01:41:32.000 I'm also going to get some flack for this from this crowd, but I grew up in Boston, often voted the most racist city in the country.

01:41:41.000 I would, growing up, would tend to agree with that.

01:41:45.000 And I'm pretty impressed with the knowledge you have, like the statistics and things that you can bring to your argument.

01:41:53.000 So you've probably seen this study, but there was a study done by the Boston Globe in 2015 that outlined the average family wealth by race in the city of Boston.

01:42:04.000 And that found that the average family wealth in Boston for an African-American family was $8.

01:42:11.000 And it found that the average family wealth for a white family was $250,000.

01:42:16.000 And I'm wondering how, to me, that's like a perfect example of a system that has been racist since the beginning of our country, leading up to the study in 2015, that shows that something has been leading us on this path that makes it much harder for people of color to achieve a middle class lifestyle.

01:42:36.000 And I just want to know what your response to be would be to that.

01:42:39.000 So, yeah, that's a thoughtful question.

01:42:40.000 And thank you.

01:42:41.000 So disparities, blaming disparities simply and solely on racial discrimination is a mistake.

01:42:49.000 And I will yield to the great Thomas Soule on this.

01:42:51.000 He wrote a whole book on it called Discrimination and Disparities.

01:42:53.000 So disparate outcomes and blaming it solely on racial discrimination on these incredibly complex and numerous inputs and variables is something that is widely over generalistic.

01:43:06.000 And so let's look at when the black middle class was growing the fastest in our country, right?

01:43:11.000 So I'm going to give you my perspective.

01:43:13.000 In Boston or in the country?

01:43:14.000 Nationwide.

01:43:15.000 So I can't speak specifically to Boston, but certain studies have been done very similar in Chicago, where I'm from, and many others, which is...

01:43:23.000 I was born there.

01:43:24.000 It's a great city.

01:43:25.000 It used to be a great city.

01:43:26.000 Yes, you're right.

01:43:27.000 And so we, so for example, in 1950s is when the black middle class was growing the fastest.

01:43:34.000 And then in the 1960s, we passed the Great Society Act, which intervened, started to subsidize single motherhood.

01:43:41.000 Now, the single motherhood rate before the Great Society Act was 23, 24%, right?

01:43:46.000 More or less.

01:43:46.000 After the Great Society Act, it is now upwards of 70 to 77%, kind of based on what city you look at.

01:43:53.000 Now, America, maybe you disagree at this, but I believe it's a fact, got considerably less racist since the 1960s.

01:43:59.000 Do you agree with that?

01:44:00.000 Maybe, maybe not?

01:44:02.000 That is just so hard to like land on.

01:44:05.000 Like, I can't.

01:44:06.000 How do you measure that?

01:44:07.000 Like electing a black president?

01:44:11.000 I would say that that's, if we, if we have maybe 30 black presidents, I would say we're on the right track. 1.00

01:44:17.000 Right.

01:44:17.000 Okay.

01:44:18.000 How about, let me, let me ask you, how about allowing...

01:44:21.000 How many white presidents versus black presidents have we had? 0.94

01:44:24.000 Right.

01:44:25.000 Well, also more white people were running for office than black individuals.

01:44:28.000 But let me just, let me just finish, ask another question.

01:44:31.000 Black individuals haven't always been allowed to run for office.

01:44:35.000 And that's not necessarily true.

01:44:36.000 There was a moment where that was true, but starting in the early, the late 1800s, early 1900s, there was a huge movement of black individuals running for elected office.

01:44:45.000 I'll get to that in a second, though.

01:44:47.000 But I think it's unquestionable that America is significantly less racist today than the 1960s.

01:44:52.000 Major League Baseball was a white-only league.

01:44:54.000 We had Jim Crow in the South. 1.00

01:44:55.000 We had poll taxes, literacy tests.

01:44:58.000 Those have been completely eliminated.

01:45:00.000 In fact, it's now opposite what's happening.

01:45:02.000 We're re-segregating our schools.

01:45:04.000 We have a supply and demand problem with racism in America where we have such a low...

01:45:08.000 One second, I'm going to just, we have a supply, we have undersupply of racism and incredible demand to try to find it.

01:45:14.000 So the question is, why all of a sudden then did the black middle class growth slow down to a grinding halt and single motherhood go from 26% in the 1960s to well over 70% today?

01:45:24.000 And some people would say racism.

01:45:26.000 Again, I just think it's incredibly objectively true.

01:45:29.000 America has become significantly less racist since the 1960s and just in every single metric possible and imaginable.

01:45:35.000 But what hasn't, what has changed is that we spent trillions of dollars to subsidize bad behavior, keep fathers out of the home, have a broken education system that fosters illiteracy and unfortunately bad outcomes and outputs.

01:45:49.000 And so that question altogether is one much more about whether or not the nuclear family was together and less about skin color, right?

01:45:56.000 And so the question is, why did it go from 26% in single motherhood to 70%?

01:46:01.000 I'm curious what your explanation would be for that.

01:46:05.000 I don't have an explanation for that.

01:46:07.000 I'm still wondering how you can explain the wealth gap in Boston.

01:46:12.000 I just did, right?

01:46:12.000 Because most blacks are born without a father, and most whites are born with a mother and a father.

01:46:17.000 That is the number one indicator and predictor of whether or not you will be able to build wealth and stay in a middle-class lifestyle.

01:46:24.000 So it takes three things, according to the Brooking Institution, to stay out of poverty and break into the middle class.

01:46:29.000 Graduate high school, get a job, any job, and get married before you have kids.

01:46:32.000 Those are three things, regardless of skin color, regardless of where you come from.

01:46:36.000 Unfortunately, we've made those things very difficult in many communities, specifically urban communities.

01:46:42.000 And the people that designed them, they might have meant well.

01:46:45.000 I don't think they really did.

01:46:46.000 But you could look at through the Great Society program, the creation of the Department of Education, the destruction of black homes, and the integration of these vertical housing units. 0.81

01:46:56.000 And so, you know, just some numbers here.

01:46:58.000 Like, black boys are almost half as likely to end up incarcerated and twice as likely to want to graduate from college for single parents if they're raised in a home with their two parents compared to boys just raised by one parent.

01:47:10.000 So it's almost the numbers are incredibly differential in that capacity in that regard.

01:47:16.000 And so I would just encourage you, we don't have time to get into this, just look into the studies done by Thomas Soule, where he says, you look at disparate outcomes, don't blame discrimination.

01:47:24.000 I'll give you a great example, which is, can we blame the fact that mountain towns and landlocked states are poorer than river towns and port towns?

01:47:34.000 We can't blame racism on that.

01:47:35.000 The fact is your proximity to a port or the proximity to an ocean or to a river makes you a wealthier town.

01:47:41.000 I use that as an example because you look at a town like Billings, Montana, they're much poorer than a town like Boston, Massachusetts.

01:47:48.000 Not because of racism.

01:47:49.000 It'd be just proximity where commerce and trade happens.

01:47:52.000 There's sometimes other explanations for disparate outcomes than just blaming it on discrimination.

01:47:58.000 I definitely, I agree that there's more than one reason.

01:48:02.000 I also want to say I don't identify as a Democrat or a Republican.

01:48:05.000 I didn't call you.

01:48:05.000 I didn't say that.

01:48:06.000 Totally.

01:48:06.000 I just want to say that because I would say I would love to keep the dialogue going.

01:48:11.000 I would love to listen to your podcast and understand where you're coming from.

01:48:15.000 If everybody here would listen to Scene on Radio Seen White that delves down into the real history of this country, then we can actually have a dialogue because I feel like I'm doing, so I'm trying to do the research and understand where you are coming from.

01:48:29.000 I don't know that everybody's trying to do the research and actually understand.

01:48:32.000 Can I ask you, check out his podcast?

01:48:34.000 I mean that, and check out mine too.

01:48:35.000 But yeah, let me, so just about the history, though.

01:48:39.000 So you would say America was founded on systemic racism.

01:48:42.000 How would you characterize it?

01:48:43.000 I'm just curious.

01:48:44.000 I'm not going to go down that road because you'll destroy me.

01:48:47.000 I'm not well read enough.

01:48:48.000 I'm not well read enough.

01:48:49.000 When I listen to you and I hear your take on it and I listen to the other folks, I'm more convinced by the other folks.

01:48:55.000 Okay.

01:48:56.000 I understand you're setting me up because you know more about no, you brought up history, so I was just curious.

01:49:00.000 Totally.

01:49:01.000 Thank you so much for being here tonight.

01:49:03.000 I really appreciate the dialogue.

01:49:04.000 Thank you.

01:49:04.000 Open dialogue.

01:49:05.000 Thanks.

01:49:06.000 Two more questions.

01:49:11.000 So you've talked a lot about religion tonight and the importance of religion in society and the family.

01:49:16.000 And I understand the importance of spirituality and the importance of a structured existence.

01:49:22.000 My question is: do you believe it's possible or do you believe it's impossible to live a good, moral, satisfied, and structured life without religion? 0.82

01:49:31.000 No.

01:49:32.000 I don't know.

01:49:33.000 Now, let me tell you, though.

01:49:35.000 Here's the kicker.

01:49:36.000 I think you can live a good life without religion. 1.00

01:49:38.000 The question is: how do you know it's good?

01:49:41.000 You know it's good because a religious standard and tradition told you what is right and what is wrong and what is good and what is evil.

01:49:47.000 And that's not to say there aren't good atheists.

01:49:49.000 You could go find plenty of people that are a-religious and have that.

01:49:52.000 The question is: the standard bearer for entire society, where does that come from?

01:49:57.000 And that is the ultimate question.

01:50:00.000 And I would argue, though, that you will live a freer, happier life with religion, exceptions excluded. 0.76

01:50:07.000 And Every possible example I could look through that there is a yearning in the human heart and the human soul for objective meaning and for transcendent order.

01:50:16.000 And this is why I'm such a big critic of atheism because it makes religious claims.

01:50:21.000 It makes claims that there is no creator, there is no God, there is nothing, and I believe it in almost a religious type way.

01:50:27.000 Agnostics, I think, are perfectly, you know, I could deal with agnostics. 1.00

01:50:30.000 That's fine.

01:50:31.000 And by the way, without God, there would be no atheists, just so we're clear.

01:50:36.000 I always have to get that one in.

01:50:37.000 But yeah, I suppose the question is that we derive what is right and wrong, not through a microscope, but through traditions that we derive straight from the scriptures, the decalogue, and things that we take for granted.

01:50:51.000 And there's a great, I'll say with this, because I know we're running out of time.

01:50:54.000 There's this great document, it's actually not a great documentary, it's actually kind of boring, but it was about the barbarians that used to occupy Gaul, and it was a huge, huge opponent of Rome.

01:51:05.000 And there was this one line in it that was so telling, and they said, now, the people of Gaul were a unique people because they did not believe murder was wrong.

01:51:13.000 And so they just, if you murdered somebody, it's like, yeah, whatever.

01:51:16.000 It's just kind of part of it.

01:51:17.000 Now, for us, it's like, what are you talking about?

01:51:19.000 It's because you've been raised in a society that was built on a tradition and a morality that stemmed from scripture, stemmed from a Judeo-Christian construct.

01:51:28.000 You could disagree with that, but it's objectively true that 55 of 66 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Christian, that the founding documents were deeply prayed over and poured over by activist pastors across the country.

01:51:38.000 So I think I answered the question because I know plenty of good people that are atheistic or secular or godless, but their definition of good would come directly back towards a Christian morality.

01:51:50.000 So thank you.

01:51:51.000 Appreciate it.

01:51:53.000 All right, the last question.

01:51:57.000 So I'm a homeschool mom.

01:51:59.000 Thank you for homeschooling.

01:52:04.000 I'm also of German descent, which is so interesting because so many of us are coming out of the woodwork to fight critical race theory. 0.98

01:52:10.000 And when they call you fascists, that is so ridiculous. 0.97

01:52:13.000 They have no idea what they're talking about. 0.99

01:52:15.000 And we do, and they're wrong.

01:52:18.000 So back to my point, as a homeschool mom and as a German, I know eventually they come for you.

01:52:23.000 If you don't stop them, they come for you.

01:52:25.000 So we have to look, as much as we homeschoolers like to just go keep our children safe and run for the hills, we have to be involved in the larger picture.

01:52:34.000 What do you think was the underlying intent of Jimmy Carter and that whole administration in creating the Department of Education?

01:52:40.000 What do you think was the underlying intent?

01:52:42.000 And what can we do to abolish it so that it returns to the local level?

01:52:46.000 Yeah.

01:52:47.000 The realistic nature of abolishing the Department of Education is highly unlikely.

01:52:52.000 The intent was to try to stop the bond between the parent and the child.

01:52:55.000 This was done by every sort of totalitarian, tyrannical dictatorship of the 20th century.

01:53:00.000 In Mao's Cultural Revolution, they incentivized and paid children to turn in their parents into the state.

01:53:06.000 In the USSR, they did exactly the same.

01:53:08.000 To the Ten Commandments, the only 10 commandment with a promise is honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in.

01:53:15.000 If you have strong relationships with your parents and strong families, your nation will survive.

01:53:20.000 A nation goes and starts to demand tyranny if you do not have order and a strong family at home.

01:53:26.000 People that are fatherless, people that do not have that structure, they're going to go to try to find that structure somewhere else.

01:53:32.000 And so I don't know the intent of Jimmy Carter in particular, but you could see Melissa Harris Perry in 2014 who said, your children are not your own.

01:53:39.000 It is that of the community.

01:53:40.000 You see someone running for governor in Virginia come out and say, why do parents want to keep on having a say in their children's education?

01:53:46.000 Make no mistake.

01:53:47.000 It is the parents that are the most invested spiritually, emotionally, relationally, and what's best for their children.

01:53:53.000 Do not give your kids over to the state.

01:53:55.000 Do not act as if they have your best interests at heart.

01:53:58.000 Instead, we need parents to do what you're doing, homeschooling and contesting for parental rights and parental choice in education.

01:54:04.000 That makes society better and it's better for your children.

01:54:06.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

01:54:09.000 So, in closing, everybody, look around you.

01:54:12.000 You're not alone here in Burlington, Vermont.

01:54:14.000 And we were here to try to force the tough conversations because that's what keeps America a special nation where you can see differences of opinion, where people can be heard.

01:54:23.000 Our country's on fragile footing right now.

01:54:25.000 And culturally, I do not want to be a country where people are afraid to speak out their viewpoints.

01:54:30.000 Be the same person in public that you are in private.

01:54:33.000 And to my nice friend from Boston, who was born in Chicago, if you guys would be so inclined to take out your phone and subscribe to our podcast, The Charlie Kirk Show, it does bless us and it does help us a lot.

01:54:42.000 You'll be able to re-listen to this entire podcast and the heckling and the nonsense.

01:54:48.000 I did my best to continue to go through it, but we need less of that and more listening to the other side where we could be a country of decency, a country of truth, a country of prudence, of one of prosperity and peace for our generation.

01:55:02.000 And for young people out there, it's our future.

01:55:04.000 Reject radicalism, reject CRT, reject wokeism, be courageous, be strong.

01:55:10.000 God bless you, Vermont, and thank you so much for having me.

01:55:17.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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01:55:26.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

01:55:27.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 20, 2021

Exposing Cultural Marxists & Crushing CRT—LIVE from Burlington, VT

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