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00:02:15.000You know, Charlie, we were just looking at that ourselves and I was thinking that, you know, it turns out that Orlando is only about an hour and a half drive from there.
00:02:22.000So we're looking at, obviously, we're on East Coast here on DC, so we might end up having to go just because the costs are so crazy because we want to bring the family.
00:02:52.000And what are we missing in regards to this story?
00:02:55.000Well, so there's this individual who did it by the name of Tatsuya Mitsimbura.
00:03:01.000And he seems, as far as we can tell, the police are saying, the Japanese police are saying that he confessed to them, apparently, because his mother was joined, had joined one of these sort of like Christian offshoot cult organizations.
00:03:16.000There's a lot of these that operate throughout Japan and South Korea.
00:03:19.000She had been donating so much of her money to this thing that it turns out that they didn't have any money then to inherit or for him to inherit as her son.
00:03:29.000And so this guy went completely nuts, then starts building guns in his home.
00:03:34.000Now, keep in mind, this is something that people, I think, for the Charlie Kirk show will want to know that the private ownership of firearms in Japan is strictly regulated.
00:03:50.000It's not even Europe in terms of that.
00:03:52.000And so the issue then becomes he builds these things in his home and then decides to go kill Abe because he believes that Abe has some connection to this group and then goes, walks up right behind him with what appears to be, right, you know, sort of homemade sought-off shotgun and is able to use that to shoot him in the back.
00:04:17.000What they're saying is he says that his mother joined this cult organization, gave over all of her money to them, and that he believed for some reason that Abe was actually secretly in cahoots with the cult leader.
00:04:30.000So is it possible the CCP was aware or behind this?
00:04:35.000Well, to me, it looks like something that it seems more Japanese than in terms of just the roots of it.
00:05:03.000You know that you are not allowed in that bubble, right?
00:05:06.000Around the executive protectee unless you are part of the detail or you've got one of the passes, one of the pins, et cetera, right?
00:05:12.000This guy was able to walk right behind the former prime minister of Japan, still one of the most revered political figures in Japan without any ID whatsoever.
00:05:23.000And so obviously there's a lot of questions as to what exactly led to the failure there.
00:05:26.000And as far as the CCP goes, right, the CCP stands to gain tremendously from this.
00:05:33.000Because Abe was one of the number one thorns in the side, one of the largest and most vocal anti-communists in the entire region of Asia Pacific.
00:05:44.000Look, when I served in the U.S. military, we would go to Japan time and time again.
00:05:52.000I've been in Yokosuka so many times there during the time while Abe was prime minister, by the way.
00:05:57.000And his big thing, Charlie, his big plank that he was pushing for Japan was to take Japan and their constitution away from having this pacifistic government and returning them to the status of a military power, building actual aircraft carriers, deck landing platforms, building helicopter carriers, right?
00:06:17.000He wanted to put Japan on a footing because he understood, he understood the rise of China and the threat to Japan.
00:06:24.000And what's interesting now is that so just two days ago, right, two days after his death, Abe's party just won a two-thirds super majority in the upper chamber of Japan's legislature.
00:06:38.000This means that his vision of Japan actually being able to go forward and return to a military power status in Asia could finally be seen through, even though, of course, he will not actually be there in person to see it.
00:06:51.000Yeah, I mean, look, we have no evidence the CCP was behind this.
00:06:54.000I don't trust the CCP at all, and you don't either.
00:06:57.000So I just have my suspicions, especially with all of the drama and the energy happening in the Asian theater right now.
00:07:05.000What has the CCP's response been to this?
00:07:09.000Well, so the CCP's response initially was cordial.
00:07:15.000But you saw some, at least on the official angle, but then you saw some of the organizations there, some of the newspapers in China, like this one, Global Times, or in Chinese, Huan Chou Shirbao.
00:07:26.000So they're known as sort of their really vociferous party-linked paper.
00:07:32.000This is the one that the hardcore communists are going to want to read.
00:07:35.000They came out there and said, at one point, Abe stood for improved relations between Japan and China.
00:07:43.000But since that time, he has destroyed that legacy and destroyed Japan-Chinese relations because of his interference in the Taiwan question.
00:07:53.000And of course, they call the Taiwan question the fact that he does recognize Taiwan and has even called for the United States, specifically Joe Biden, to drop its neutral status on the one China question and to firmly recognize and assert the fact the United States would come to defend Taiwan.
00:08:10.000Abe was one of the biggest proponents of a free Taiwan in all of Asia.
00:08:16.000And so that's something where in mainland China today and over this past weekend, you saw people at bars, you saw people having celebrations celebrating the fact that Abe had been killed in the street.
00:08:27.000Do you think China is going to make a move soon on Taiwan?
00:08:36.000Our army, we've got soldiers who say that they can't be loyal because of a Supreme Court decision that they don't like.
00:08:42.000We've got aircraft carriers where the planes are falling off to Harrier jets.
00:08:46.000We've got other ships that are burning to a crisp at the pier in San Diego because the sailors on board don't know how to put out a fire on a ship anymore.
00:08:56.000This is something that sailors, by the way, have known for about 5,000 years.
00:08:59.000It's obviously been a problem on ships since the very first ship was put in water.
00:09:07.000So if you're Taiwan right now, I was joking with somebody the other day.
00:09:10.000I said they might as well just start changing the flags, right?
00:09:13.000They might as well just start going for it right now, either start changing the flags or start mining the Taiwan Strait right now because the PLA, they're coming.
00:09:21.000So you think it's imminent, a move from the CCP on Taiwan?
00:09:31.000Well, it depends on what they would choose, right?
00:09:33.000If, you know, for me, and I think for a lot of naval strategists, one of the main tactics you think they would use, because of course, Taiwan's not Ukraine, right?
00:09:43.000And so when you're dealing with an island, the easiest way to neutralize an island is simply to blockade it.
00:09:48.000So an air blockade, a sea blockade, and essentially park the entire People's Liberation Army, encircle the island, and then bar it so that nothing can get in and out, and then also prevent air from getting in and out.
00:10:01.000And then, of course, that becomes a test of who?
00:10:36.000And so they are going to make everyone essentially go for that power play.
00:10:40.000Charlie, they might be able to do this without even firing a shot.
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00:13:58.000So when you were going into it, you would click, just like if I'm on Charlie Kirk's laptop and I'm trying to go into Charlie Kirk's iPhone backup, I've got to know Charlie Kirk's password.
00:14:08.000And maybe that's different than the one for the laptop.
00:14:11.000So they guessed, they guessed it, which was here.
00:14:13.000Sugar mammy crackhead 24 or whatever it was, right?
00:14:25.000So there's pictures on here, some of which, and you know, look, obviously it's very harrowing, but at the same time, you know, the only thing I can say is when I was in the intelligence community, I didn't specifically work on human trafficking and child trafficking investigations.
00:14:48.000And so with some of these videos, I have to imagine that before you can determine whether or not someone's of age, whether or not they're 18, you'd have to identify them.
00:14:56.000And then in order to figure out what their age was, what time, you know, what date was the photo was taken or the image was taken.
00:15:03.000But some of these girls, right, they do not necessarily, they're in that gray zone, right?
00:15:08.000They're in that gray zone, that danger zone of are they over 18?
00:15:11.000Certainly some of the searches may have also been in that zone as well.
00:15:24.000So, I mean, look, we have to be careful the way we talk about it.
00:15:26.000So just everyone understands that if we talk about this incorrectly, all of a sudden you could lose your YouTube feed because they say, oh, you're spreading hacked materials.
00:15:35.000They'll use any kind of nomenclature they can think of to strike you down.
00:15:39.000They'll say it's hacked material or it's distribution or you're spreading wild accusations, or they'll just hit you for out of context, right?
00:15:47.000And out of context is great because you can basically, well, who decides what the context is, right?
00:15:53.000So, of course, we do have to be very careful about this.
00:15:54.000But again, this is what we're seeing on this purported leak from Hunter Biden's iPhone backup that comes by a long series of a long series of chain of custody onto 4chan and then onto the rest of the internet.
00:16:09.000They're also spreading torrents of this, which for people to know that's peer-to-peer sharing.
00:16:14.000And so there's no one central file to, you could take it off someone's server.
00:16:19.000It's being shared across laptops, across desktops, right?
00:16:22.000People are sharing it to each other now and they're uploading it on their own.
00:16:26.000Now, the biggest thing here, the biggest thing that I've said when I look at all of this is how does this guy allowed in the White House when we see not just the security threats, but the fact that he's clearly dealing, clearly dealing with what appear to be far, obviously these are foreign women.
00:16:45.000Do you honestly think, Charlie, for a second that one of them would not be a foreign agent?
00:16:51.000This would be blackmail or all this stuff.
00:16:55.000Again, they go after Donald Trump Jr. and they go after these people so mercilessly.
00:16:59.000And there has not been a single mainstream report on any of this.
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00:19:58.000I mean, we published many other people, but I wrote this one because I personally was just really outraged by this story.
00:20:04.000Whatever you think about the efficacy of vaccines or vaccine mandates, this should not be happening.
00:20:09.000As you said, the company Moderna, none of us had heard of it.
00:20:13.000Only a very few people who lived in the Boston, Cambridge area where it's headquartered had heard of it.
00:20:18.000And justly so, because Moderna had never successfully brought a biopharmaceutical product or drug to the market up until the COVID pandemic happened.
00:20:31.000And then soon after the virus's genome was mapped by scientists and became publicly available, it put together a vaccine very, very quickly.
00:20:43.000In fact, one of its executives at the time boasted that it literally took like one hour over a weekend to get this thing done.
00:20:55.000Well, because a different pair of companies, one Canada-based and one Switzerland-based, charge in a lawsuit that they filed against Moderna earlier this year that everyone knew this technology of mRNA, of delivering a specific kind of genetic code to a cell and teaching the cell to do various things, including fighting viruses.
00:21:18.000What was always difficult about it was how to get the mRNA into it past the membrane of a cell into a cell safely and while maintaining its integrity.
00:21:30.000That was technology that these two companies had perfected, they say, over decades.
00:21:36.000And for other product groups, Moderna actually licensed it from these two companies.
00:21:44.000But in this case, they didn't get a license.
00:21:47.000They just borrowed, let's say, they just borrowed the technology without paying these two companies.
00:21:54.000And so now they're suing for patent, the two companies are suing for patent infringement.
00:21:59.000The remarkable thing about this, of course, this kind of thing happens in the biopharmaceutical industry from time to time.
00:22:05.000What's remarkable is Moderna's response to the lawsuit.
00:22:08.000Moderna didn't say, well, no, they're wrong.
00:22:14.000Rather, it pointed to a World War I era U.S. law that says if a product is used by the U.S. government or the U.S. population under certain conditions, then if the maker of the product faces a patent infringement lawsuit, the U.S. government, meaning you and me and others as taxpayers, will pay for the patent infringement.
00:22:38.000But it says if the U.S., for the benefit of the U.S. government, in the case of the vaccine, there were so many other instances where the U.S. government wasn't even involved in this in the process of distributing, selling, et cetera, administering the vaccines.
00:22:54.000And if you interpret this statute as broadly as Moderna wants courts to do, then anything that if there's ever anything the U.S. government uses in a veterans administration hospital, the U.S. military uses, et cetera, anything that has the loosest connection of having a U.S. government contract, then the U.S. taxpayer ends up having to pay for alleged patent theft.
00:23:23.000So it's really kind of an outrageous case.
00:23:26.000And it just shows how, you know, we think of pharmaceutical industry as this one industry that where the US is in many ways cutting edge and we can do these amazing things.
00:23:36.000But even there, a lot of the profit is based on the same kind of like gaming the system that we expect from other areas of the economy.
00:23:47.000I mean, and they want the U.S. taxpayer to try to shield them from potential liability and to try to get that kind of, you know, to try to get that kind of taxpayer shield.
00:23:58.000I want to read from part of the book, the book here, the article.
00:24:01.000The stunning rise of Moderna shows how corporations privatize the gain while socializing the pain.
00:24:06.000Can you talk about how that's actually how Washington, D.C. works, though?
00:24:10.000They want to have taxpayer immunity to maximize their profits, and it gets rid of something called the moral hazard.
00:24:16.000Now, you and I are not free market Puritans by any means, but if we were to at least have some semblance of a market, you need to be able to fail, right?
00:24:27.000Well, I mean, the most obvious case of this, which many, even if you're not familiar with this Moderna case, which is very technical and patent-oriented, everyone remembers the bailouts.
00:24:40.000I mean, the first bailout of a bank was in the late 90s, but on a much, much bigger scale, that happened in 2008, where banks that had created these monstrous derivatives and these financial instruments that no normal human being could say, this is a normal investment to take bundles of distressed assets and then securitize them, mortgage-backed securities and so forth.
00:25:04.000To do that, basically take these risks and along the way, make the bankers making huge bonuses, et cetera.
00:25:10.000And then they've made themselves so systemically important that in order for the rest of us not to go down into a depression, the taxpayer has to bail them out.
00:25:23.000And I think this is a very fair point that, you know, I have to say, you know, a lot of people on the left will make, but now increasingly I hear people on the right make as well, which is, you know, I didn't get rescued out of my failing mortgage or my mortgage right on.
00:25:39.000I didn't get rescued on my bills when I faced trouble.
00:25:42.000You know, why should mega banks on Wall Street?
00:25:47.000And you're right, it creates moral hazard in the sense that when you know that if you get into trouble, if you make bad bets, bad bets, Uncle Sam will come and save you, then you're going to take, you're going to take enormously kind of unwise bets and pass on, you know, socialize the pain, pass on the pain to everyone else.
00:26:06.000Well, we have the socializing the pain.
00:26:08.000And this is something, again, regardless of your opinion of vaccines, mine on the COVID vaccine is very well known, but it's these vaccine companies are really protected from liability from potential damages.
00:26:21.000And so for a while, we have this thing called VARES, the vaccine adverse event reporting system.
00:26:26.000And so basically Moderna, they want to get in on the action.
00:26:28.000They want to get in on the kind of the protection that is offered by the government.
00:26:33.000And so can you talk, Saurabh, a little bit more philosophically or broadly about how the defenders of the current market system are actually defending something a lot more that some that is much more like a fascist or kind of corporate run model where they use euphemisms of free markets and free people, but when it ever comes down actually closing corporate loopholes or making big companies pay, they say, oh, no, no, no, no, you can't do that.
00:27:04.000Yeah, I mean, this is not the 19th century model of, you know, Victorian capitalism, right?
00:27:13.000Where government really just regulated the money supply.
00:27:19.000And by the way, that had, you know, that's a different question.
00:27:22.000That had other disasters which were problematic.
00:27:24.000And ultimately, in the course of the 20th century, states did have to step in in various ways with the, whether it's the Theodore Roosevelt's reforms of antitrust or the New Deal, et cetera, to mitigate the harms associated with that.
00:27:44.000I don't know if we have a model for what we're going through here, but I describe it as a kind of private coercion where the very well-connected can use political lobbying litigation power, not things you, these aren't people who are like really innovating, right?
00:28:03.000In the case of Moderna, at least allegedly, it's stolen the mRNA delivery technology, allegedly.
00:28:11.000Or in a lot of these other financial institutions, they're not really, it's not like they're, you know, it's a new product we all really need.
00:28:20.000There's nothing natural or healthy about certain classes of financial products that are where they bet on third world debt or they bet on a lawsuit or they bet on the outcome of weather.
00:28:30.000This is all made possible by lobbying and litigation, by Wall Street's power on Capitol Hill.
00:28:38.000And so it's, it's, it's just some numbers.
00:28:42.000Pharmaceutical companies and their lobbying groups gave roughly $1.6 million directly to lawmakers, and they spent $263 million to keep drug prices artificially high.
00:28:55.000And they gave Republicans and Democrats equal.
00:28:58.000It's a uniparty is really what it has become.
00:29:01.000And this is something that is incredibly personal for a lot of people.
00:29:07.000They put forward this vaccine and they want all the profits and none of the downside.
00:29:11.000So your taxes continue to subsidize this.
00:29:14.000And it shouldn't be a mystery as to why so many people right now have angst and unease about what's happening in Washington, D.C. and corporate influences there.
00:29:24.000And the Republican Party just kind of says, well, we have to lower corporate taxes.
00:29:33.000It is kind of a wonky issue, but you do a good job of broadening it because it's highly technical, right?
00:29:39.000Who stole it from where and what the technology is.
00:29:41.000And I don't quite even understand it, to be honest.
00:29:44.000But you said, look, there's still a more disturbing element.
00:29:46.000The pharmaceutical industry is held up as one of those jewels of the U.S. economy, led by genius Merocrats, capable of delivering life-saving, enhancing solutions in the process, generating enormous value.
00:29:56.000But Moderna Affair also reveals the extent to which success in pharma is also a matter of clever and croniest maneuvering.
00:30:06.000Do you know how much effort hospitals and pharmaceuticals put into keeping their prices opaque by law, right?
00:30:14.000They're fighting every effort, including various efforts under the last administration to introduce price transparency.
00:30:22.000If you just have price transparency, if you have just one in a particular health market, one person shopping, it has the same effect as forcing gas stations.
00:30:31.000If you have a bunch of gas stations, if one person shops, it puts a downward pressure on the price of gas, right?
00:30:38.000Because everyone, that is enough to create a kind of competitive pressure.
00:30:42.000But with hospitals, have you ever made sense of what a hospital bill says?
00:31:20.000They've been through multiple ups and downs and economic markets, like you can imagine, just like the ones we're seeing today.
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00:32:58.000Yeah, I mean, I think we should go to the gist of my argument in 2019.
00:33:02.000I wrote this famous, infamous, whichever you want to call it, depending on your perspective, essay in First Things magazine headlined against David Frenchism.
00:33:13.000And I identified Frenchism with this illusion that you can have a neutral public square, right?
00:33:22.000Where, you know, libraries host, you know, drag queens, but also Christian groups can use the same libraries for, you know, their uses.
00:33:34.000Now, the problem is, I argued then, that the cultural progressives, these really sexual revolutionaries, will not rest content with saying, just let us have the public library to do this.
00:33:49.000First of all, we shouldn't grant that because that's not what a library is meant for.
00:33:53.000And we have to have a sense of what, you know, a rediscovery of what, like you said, what virtue is about, what if society teaches about sexuality.
00:34:01.000And as you know, drag is a really kind of garish caricature of what femininity is about.
00:34:08.000But at any rate, the idea was that you could like we could share space, right?
00:34:12.000And that was the that was David French's argument in response to me.
00:34:16.000He said, you know, famously, he told the New Yorker where New Yorker profiled both of us.
00:34:22.000He said to the interviewer, you know, the fact that someone can get a room as a drag queen and bring children, have children perform for children, quote, that's one of the blessings of liberty.
00:34:32.000And I think our founders would like profoundly, radically disagree with the idea.
00:34:38.000Yeah, just go look at just some of the, let's just say, degeneracy laws and obscenity laws in the States at the American Founding.
00:35:28.000And in fact, New York City schools have set aside a budget for drag programs in schools.
00:35:34.000And that was my original argument, that what begins as like this subversive thing, okay, a few kind of liberal parents do this for their own kids voluntary.
00:35:43.000It always becomes comes to the public square.
00:35:46.000It comes to dominate the public square.