The Charlie Kirk Show - October 04, 2021


EXPOSING Loudoun County's Radical Gendered Speech Tyranny with ADF Plaintiff Monica Gill


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35 minutes

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6,292

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410

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Join us as we hear from Monica Gill, a high school English teacher in Loudoun County, Virginia, who is fighting for the rights of her students to use their own pronouns in public school classrooms and the freedom of speech they deserve.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, on the special episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, brought to you by our partnership with Alliance Defending Freedom.
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00:00:49.000 So our conversation today is about a teacher, Monica Gill.
00:00:52.000 We talked to her directly about how she is being forced to call people different pronouns against her will.
00:00:59.000 It is about freedom of speech.
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00:01:22.000 All right, Monica Gill is here alongside Tyson Langhoffer, Senior Counsel and Director of the Center for Academic Freedom at ADF.
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00:01:31.000 Here we go.
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00:02:05.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:08.000 We are so honored to have with us today a very important story with someone who is honestly a hero who is standing up against the indoctrination of students in schools across the country, specifically in Loudoun County public schools.
00:02:25.000 And all of this is made possible thanks to our amazing partners at the Alliance Defending Freedom, which we are doing everything we can to help them out.
00:02:33.000 You guys can go to charliekirk.com and help out the Alliance Defending Freedom.
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00:02:39.000 We're going to talk about that throughout this episode.
00:02:41.000 I want to welcome right now to our episode and our conversation today, Monica Gill, who is from Loudoun County Public Schools, who is standing up against what has been happening here and is a teacher in the Loudoun County public school system.
00:02:55.000 Monica, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:58.000 Thank you so much for having me.
00:02:59.000 I'm very excited to be here, Charlie.
00:03:01.000 Lots to discuss.
00:03:02.000 And alongside of you is the wonderful man who helps run a lot of the legal cases at Alliance Defending Freedom, Tyson Langhoffer.
00:03:11.000 I think I said that right.
00:03:12.000 Almost.
00:03:13.000 Yes.
00:03:14.000 Good.
00:03:15.000 And welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:03:17.000 Can't wait to dive into this with you as well as you represent this wonderful client.
00:03:20.000 So welcome.
00:03:21.000 All right.
00:03:22.000 So let's get into this.
00:03:23.000 So at the Loudoun County Public Schools, many people kind of know the outrage that has been happening in recent months, especially over the last year in regards to critical race theory and in all the different kind of measures that have been put forward.
00:03:39.000 Monica, you are suing Loudoun County public schools in Loudoun County Circuit Court represented by the Alliance Defending Freedom.
00:03:47.000 What is your complaint against Loudoun County Public Schools?
00:03:52.000 Well, largely, you know, the issue is just of such a huge magnitude because what's happened here is our school board is pursuing policies that are ideological.
00:04:02.000 They are not educational.
00:04:03.000 And this policy in particular, 80-40, is harmful to kids.
00:04:08.000 You know, we have thousands of teachers and students who interact with each other every day in very loving and respectful ways.
00:04:15.000 And we can do that without having a policy like this, which forces teachers and students to say things that are harmful to kids, say things that they don't believe and things that are just, quite frankly, not true by just, you know, a kid saying, hey, I want to be addressed by this particular pronoun.
00:04:34.000 I'm no longer a he.
00:04:35.000 I'm now a she. 0.93
00:04:37.000 And that's, you know, they're pushing this very radical gender ideology on the entire public school system. 1.00
00:04:44.000 And quite frankly, they're using our kids as pawns in a political battle, which is just wrong.
00:04:49.000 It is completely heartbreaking to me.
00:04:52.000 And, you know, I can't be a party to that because these are our most vulnerable.
00:04:57.000 And so that's one of the reasons why I wanted to get involved in this case.
00:05:01.000 And so the school board adopted a policy that will harm students and is based on unsettled science that basically now forces you to say something that is anti-reality, anti-science, and could violate your very basic rights.
00:05:17.000 So I want to ask a question here just about kind of the legal aspect of this, of the law.
00:05:23.000 And I guess I'll start with you, Tyson, is that kind of where does the law, like where do you think this case can be most effective?
00:05:33.000 In essence, kind of what, where has the school board overreached the constitutional limits when it comes to teachers' rights?
00:05:41.000 Sure.
00:05:42.000 What it's done, Charlie, is, as Monica said, it adopted a policy, which is this kind of one-size-fits-all policy, which essentially grants students the complete right to dictate what everybody else, both staff, teachers, and students at school get to, you know, how they are referred to these other students.
00:06:01.000 And so what it's doing is it's forcing teachers and staff and other students to say things that they think are untrue by essentially saying, you know, referring to a boy as a girl or a girl as a boy, or using up any number of the hundreds of made-up pronouns that any student wants to come up with and acting as if gender is this social construct as opposed to a biological reality.
00:06:27.000 So what it's doing is it's violating the freedom of speech of teachers and also their free exercise of religion under the Virginia Constitution.
00:06:35.000 Yeah, and so they push this measure.
00:06:37.000 Can you just more detail either of you, what does that measure say and what are the penalties associated with that?
00:06:44.000 You know, it's a very broad policy, Charlie.
00:06:44.000 Sure.
00:06:47.000 So it addresses a number of things.
00:06:50.000 But essentially what it says is that any student without any substantiating evidence can go to the school and tell them what they, you know, how they want to be treated.
00:07:01.000 And if they are a boy, they can be treated as a girl immediately without any substantiating evidence.
00:07:05.000 That is for all bathrooms and locker rooms. 0.72
00:07:09.000 That's for all sports.
00:07:10.000 And that's also for language.
00:07:13.000 And so essentially what it does is it puts the school and school administrators at the mercy of children, many of those children who are suffering from gender dysphoria and other mental issues.
00:07:25.000 And it's doing that without any parental involvement and without any medical diagnosis.
00:07:30.000 And it allows them to change that at whim.
00:07:32.000 They can do it one way in one class and another way in another class, do it one day, one way, and then change the very next day.
00:07:40.000 And teachers are expected to abide by those demands and cannot question it.
00:07:44.000 And the punishment is up to termination.
00:07:48.000 I want to remind everybody back a couple years ago, four or five years ago, then an unknown man, Jordan Peterson, warned that what was happening in Canada, which was, I think, Senate Bill 26 or something with a six in it, that was he was a college professor at the University of Toronto and was being forced to call his students by a certain pronoun, exactly the same type of policy.
00:08:14.000 Jordan Peterson then went out into the streets and was heckled.
00:08:18.000 And the video went viral.
00:08:20.000 No one had heard about Jordan Peterson before that.
00:08:21.000 He's obviously now a household name, sold millions of copies of books.
00:08:25.000 But the critique from the American media was that this would never happen here.
00:08:29.000 I mean, come on.
00:08:30.000 And that's the Canadian Constitution, right?
00:08:32.000 They don't respect the Bill of Rights.
00:08:34.000 And Jordan Peterson was trying to say, you don't understand this is going to be the decline of the West if we do not have the ability to recognize basic fundamental science.
00:08:45.000 And also, as soon as you control my speech, you force me to do something, then you are picking up the gun on the table and you are becoming the autocrat and you are becoming the tyrant.
00:08:56.000 So Monica, walk us through in as much detail as you're comfortable sharing, what compelled you from hearing this policy to now wanting to sue your employer?
00:09:09.000 Well, you know, obviously it was a long process coming to it, but, you know, I think the thing that really gets me the most is that there really is an honest debate going on right now about how best to care for kids who suffer from gender dysphoria.
00:09:25.000 And our school board has essentially picked one side in that debate and they have mandated it for everyone, for the entire school system, making all teachers and students complicit in that.
00:09:36.000 And it's completely wrong.
00:09:38.000 It is not the job of government to mandate things like that.
00:09:42.000 It's not their job to mandate care.
00:09:44.000 It's not their job to mandate speech.
00:09:46.000 It's not their job to mandate how I interact with my students.
00:09:50.000 And so again, this whole notion of they're going to mandate what is supposed to happen between me and my students is just completely off.
00:10:00.000 That is government overreach.
00:10:01.000 I mean, I'm not the expert that my lawyer is on the First Amendment, but I am a government teacher and I know enough to know that it is always wrong and it is always harmful for government to force and mandate people to say things that they don't agree with and to be complicit and participate in activities that they think is wrong.
00:10:19.000 And so again, you know, we have to stand against this.
00:10:23.000 This is not right what our school board is doing.
00:10:27.000 And it's trickled down to this local level.
00:10:30.000 And it just, it means we have got to stand against it or we lose everything, just like you said.
00:10:37.000 And so you've taught transgender students in the past and you've had great relationships with them.
00:10:43.000 Tell us about that.
00:10:45.000 So I've definitely had transgender students in the past.
00:10:47.000 I have loved and respected each one of them.
00:10:50.000 I think that those feelings were very much mutual.
00:10:54.000 And when I've had them in the past, if they wanted to go by a different name, I certainly would call them by that name.
00:10:59.000 But I never affirmed to a boy that he was a girl or to a girl that she was a boy because it's just, it's not true.
00:11:08.000 But, you know, even though I can't affirm that a boy is a girl or that a girl is a boy, what I can do is what I've been doing for the last 26 years.
00:11:15.000 And that is embracing with open arms and having love and respect for every single student who walks across the threshold into my classroom.
00:11:25.000 And I really feel like that's my mission, Charlie.
00:11:27.000 I mean, I have painted above the threshold of my classroom.
00:11:31.000 You are loved.
00:11:32.000 I tell my students that I love them all the time.
00:11:34.000 I say, you know, goodbye, guys.
00:11:36.000 Have a great day.
00:11:36.000 Mrs. Gill loves you.
00:11:38.000 I put it on all their papers.
00:11:39.000 I give them a bonus question on every quiz or test that says, Mrs. Gill loves me.
00:11:43.000 A, true, B, false.
00:11:45.000 And the whole point of that is that, again, this is my mission.
00:11:48.000 I know how hard it was to be in high school, to have yourself just trying to figure out your identity, to be pushed in little boxes by your peers.
00:11:59.000 And I just want these kids to know that they're seen and they're loved.
00:12:04.000 And it doesn't matter what little boxes they're shoved into by their peers.
00:12:08.000 It doesn't matter what their peer status is.
00:12:10.000 It doesn't matter what grades they have, if they have an A in my class or an F in my class, that they hear at least once in the day that somebody loves them unconditionally.
00:12:20.000 And I treasure being that voice to them.
00:12:23.000 So I guess the question is then, is this a solution in search of a problem?
00:12:29.000 Was this a widespread problem in the school district? 0.71
00:12:33.000 Was where there were a bunch of men who think they're women who are suffering from a very serious mental problem, gender dysphoria, which you're right.
00:12:40.000 They deserve care and compassion for deep-seated mental issues, which I think they should be given that.
00:12:47.000 But was this some sort of massive crisis?
00:12:49.000 Or is this something that was proposed to either provoke a response or to try and micromanage somebody's speech, either of you?
00:12:57.000 Well, I think, Charlie, one of the things you're seeing, you guys are, you know, TPUSA, I know you guys are involved in these school board issues across the country.
00:13:05.000 And what you're seeing is this is not an isolated issue, but it's not because there is a huge problem.
00:13:11.000 It is being driven by outside influences who are coming in and trying to mandate a radical ideology and trying to change people's beliefs.
00:13:21.000 That's what they're doing.
00:13:22.000 It is a goal to indoctrinate with an ideology because what we see across the country is teachers.
00:13:29.000 I get calls from teachers across the country saying, I love my students.
00:13:34.000 I want to remain in the classroom.
00:13:35.000 I want to continue to communicate the truth to them, but I am being forced to lie to them.
00:13:40.000 And that's what we're seeing.
00:13:41.000 We're not seeing some problem out there where there's these teachers that are abusing children. 1.00
00:13:46.000 That's not the issue.
00:13:47.000 The issue is outside forces trying to mandate one ideology.
00:13:51.000 And one thing that's really important, Charlie, to understand is this.
00:13:54.000 The law that caused this in Virginia specifically says that they must adopt a policy that's in accordance with evidence-based best practices.
00:14:04.000 That's in the statute.
00:14:06.000 And instead of doing that, the Department of Education adopts this model policy, which literally allows a kindergarten student to tell their teacher that they want to be referred to as a different gender without any parental involvement, without any medical diagnosis, and then forces all teachers to participate in this social transition.
00:14:27.000 And we know that social transition will lead to cross-sex hormones, to hormone suppressants, and then on to surgery.
00:14:36.000 But if they are allowed to go with, you know, they are treated and assisted and not going through social transition, 80 to 90% of them by puberty will choose their biological sex.
00:14:47.000 That's what the evidence says.
00:14:49.000 But the Department of Education has ignored all of that.
00:14:52.000 Loudoun County has ignored all of that and is instead forcing teachers like Monica to participate in this social transition, which is going to harm their students.
00:15:01.000 I just want to remind everybody, if you are moved to try to do something about this tragedy, go to charliekirk.com, Alliance Defending Freedom Banner.
00:15:10.000 It's a way that you guys can get in on that.
00:15:12.000 We're going to get into how ADF has kind of come to the rescue here in a second.
00:15:17.000 I just want to remind everybody, because this is so important, because the other side, they have the ACLU, they have all these groups, unlimited resources to go sue on the other side of this, right?
00:15:28.000 So where I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago, Palatine High School kind of became ground zero for the bathroom issue.
00:15:37.000 Tyson, you probably know it very well.
00:15:40.000 And the ACLU came in with millions of dollars and PR campaign and all of it. 0.60
00:15:46.000 So now men can go into female restrooms in Palatine High School, female locker rooms, and basically the end of female sports as we know it. 1.00
00:15:57.000 ACLU does that all the time.
00:15:59.000 And ADF really is our equivalent of doing what needs to be done in the courts and otherwise.
00:16:06.000 So everyone can check out charliekirk.com and click on the banner there.
00:16:10.000 And please consider contributing to the Freedom Fund.
00:16:13.000 It's incredibly important.
00:16:14.000 So I want to ask Monica again about kind of dive deeper into this.
00:16:19.000 Suing is a big deal.
00:16:21.000 Did you try to get this fixed in other ways first?
00:16:25.000 Well, I have been actually speaking to the Loudoun County School Board for a couple of years now, really since August of 2019 when they started this whole equity, diversity, and inclusiveness initiative.
00:16:41.000 And I've been speaking about all of it, from critical race theory to the transgender policy.
00:16:48.000 And honestly, it has been pretty much met with silence, which is very frustrating.
00:16:56.000 And when it got to the point where Tanner Cross was put on leave for the things that he said, that, of course, just got me even, you know, more, you know, fire in my belly over this issue.
00:17:09.000 And I've known Tanner also for a long time.
00:17:12.000 So when the opportunity came and I was able to be a part of this, I just said, I have to take a stand along with Tanner, my brother, you know, and Kim as well.
00:17:26.000 So it is a big deal, I can say, that it wasn't really a hard decision, actually, because after two years of really fighting and being frustrated and not being heard,
00:17:40.000 to finally have someone come and say, hey, you know, we've got you on this and we have the resources and the manpower and the knowledge and everything that you need to actually take this fight to the next level and God willing win, I was on board.
00:18:03.000 So I want to just kind of catch our audience up.
00:18:06.000 Tanner Cross is a PE teacher or was at Leesburg Elementary School and spoke out against a proposed policy at a public school board meeting.
00:18:15.000 And then two days later, he was put on administrative leave and his actions were labeled as disruptive.
00:18:21.000 Now he's suing the school board for violating his freedom of speech and free exercise of religion and has been temporarily reinstated to his position while the case continues.
00:18:31.000 Since this meeting, the policy has been adopted and forces teachers and school officials to violate their deeply held religious beliefs by saying things they don't believe and are untrue.
00:18:41.000 And so let me ask a question, Monica, and then I have a question for you, Tyson, which is on the ground in Loudoun County public schools, are parents starting to get fed up with this?
00:18:53.000 Are they really starting to rise?
00:18:54.000 I mean, we're seeing the images, we're seeing all of that, but the critique is like, oh, that's just a minority of parents.
00:19:00.000 Is that true?
00:19:02.000 No, I don't think it is a minority.
00:19:05.000 I think we have a huge groundswell of parents.
00:19:07.000 And interestingly enough, it is parents who run across the political spectrum.
00:19:12.000 It's not just the Christian conservative parent or the Christian conservative teacher.
00:19:16.000 We have parents and students and teachers from across the entire political spectrum who are looking at this and saying, this is wrong.
00:19:24.000 This is harmful to kids.
00:19:25.000 We should not stand for it.
00:19:28.000 And that has been heartening to see.
00:19:30.000 I have had many parents who come up to me or send me emails saying, thank you.
00:19:36.000 You're fighting the good fight.
00:19:38.000 Fellow teachers as well.
00:19:39.000 But I think for me, the most heartening thing has been the students who have come to me and said, thank you so much, Mrs. Gale, for taking a stand for us.
00:19:48.000 And I think the important thing about what they're saying is they realize that the stand is for them.
00:19:52.000 That as much as it is about, you know, my free speech rights and my, you know, freedom of religion and Tanners and kins, it goes beyond that.
00:20:00.000 This is really about these kids and what's best for them.
00:20:04.000 It's the larger picture of my fiduciary responsibility as a teacher who loves them to do the things that are right and best for them.
00:20:13.000 Well, and you've been doing a wonderful job of that, but the school district feels as if they need to insert themselves into your way you're teaching students.
00:20:21.000 I'm not joking.
00:20:23.000 Soon they will say that you're not able to tell your students you love them because you told me that's what you say, because that's the next thing.
00:20:28.000 Tyson, is that a bridge too far?
00:20:31.000 No, you know, that's absolutely true, Charlie, because Monica is not the only teacher we represent.
00:20:37.000 We currently represent a teacher, Peter Vlaming, who was a teacher for eight years in Williamsburg, Virginia.
00:20:42.000 And he was fired as a French teacher because he wouldn't refer to a female student as a male.
00:20:47.000 And he had a great track record.
00:20:49.000 They were trying to not only dictate how he referred to the student in her presence, but said that outside of her presence, he must do that.
00:20:57.000 And if they heard he was avoiding the use of a pronoun and using her name, he would still be fired.
00:21:02.000 So they're trying to control everything.
00:21:04.000 This isn't just about interaction with the students.
00:21:07.000 It's all of your language everywhere.
00:21:09.000 We currently represent Professor Nick Merriweather, who's a 20-year philosophy and religion professor at Shawnee State University.
00:21:16.000 He was punished for not referring to a male student as a female.
00:21:20.000 And they argued that his speech is not at all protected.
00:21:24.000 He had no protection in the classroom at all.
00:21:26.000 They were trying to dictate everything he said in the classroom.
00:21:29.000 That's completely contrary to everything that the Supreme Court has said about what professors they said we have to protect the marketplace of ideas of our schools.
00:21:38.000 They said that our nation will shrivel up and die if we begin controlling what the teachers are able to say in the classrooms and their interactions because we can't explore truth.
00:21:48.000 We can't explore these big ideas and the solutions to our big problems if the government comes in and starts saying what you can say in those classrooms.
00:21:58.000 Yeah, and that's exactly where we are headed on that.
00:22:01.000 So Tyson, I want to follow up.
00:22:03.000 What is the status of the case?
00:22:05.000 You guys filed it back in August.
00:22:07.000 Where does the case stand?
00:22:09.000 Yeah, so there's the good news is we filed on behalf of Tanner initially.
00:22:12.000 We had a hearing.
00:22:13.000 The court granted the injunction, reinstated Tanner to the classroom.
00:22:18.000 He was able to finish out the year, which was great.
00:22:20.000 They appealed that to the Virginia Supreme Court.
00:22:22.000 And about three weeks ago, the Virginia Supreme Court affirmed the injunction and held that the school had likely violated Tanner's rights and that he was rightly reinstated, which is very encouraging.
00:22:33.000 We then added Monica and Kim as plaintiffs to challenge the policy directly.
00:22:37.000 We filed a motion for a preliminary injunction.
00:22:39.000 We're asking the court to order the school to not force these teachers to speak messages that they disagree with.
00:22:47.000 And we're waiting on the court to schedule that hearing.
00:22:49.000 So we're hoping within the next week, the court will schedule a hearing and we'll hoping to have a ruling on that within the next couple of weeks.
00:22:57.000 And so, Monica, I want to ask you just a broader question because speaking out is not something many people are comfortable doing.
00:23:06.000 Talk a little bit about some of the backlash you've received.
00:23:09.000 I'm sure some of the negativity, because so many people email us on our podcast, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:23:16.000 They say, Charlie, I don't know if I could do it.
00:23:19.000 You know, I want to live my comfortable life.
00:23:21.000 I don't want to lose friends.
00:23:22.000 I want to be popular.
00:23:24.000 I want to remain wealthy.
00:23:25.000 And I do want to see the country saved.
00:23:28.000 But, you know, I want to be loved.
00:23:30.000 I want to stay in my country club.
00:23:32.000 And I like, we actually get emails like this, and that's fine.
00:23:34.000 They can make their own decision.
00:23:35.000 You know, George S. Patton said that moral courage is the most necessary yet absent characteristic in men.
00:23:42.000 As Aristotle would say, courage is the ultimate virtue because without it, there are no other virtues.
00:23:47.000 Where did you get your courage from?
00:23:50.000 The Lord, to be honest with you.
00:23:54.000 I spent many years being afraid of speaking up, being afraid of speaking up about my conservative values at school, even to a certain extent among my colleagues about my faith.
00:24:05.000 I've always been pretty open about being a Christian in the classroom with my students.
00:24:10.000 But when they pushed this initiative, when they started to push this equity, diversity, and inclusion initiative in August of 2019, all I can say to you, Charlie, is that literally I went from a place of fear to righteous anger, you know, that like be angry, but don't sin and saying, okay, well, then now what do I do?
00:24:34.000 And literally, I just felt the Lord remove all my fear.
00:24:39.000 And since then, I just said to him, I'm going to be obedient.
00:24:42.000 Anything that you ask me to do, any door you ask me to walk through, I will walk through it.
00:24:48.000 And, you know, now I'm on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:24:52.000 Well, there you go.
00:24:53.000 And the Lord will bless anyone that stands courageously in his name.
00:24:57.000 Monica, I do want to ask you to expand on a little bit because we've been focused on your lawsuit and your complaint on the gender kind of tyranny, which is really important.
00:25:06.000 The pronoun language tyranny, I should be more specific.
00:25:09.000 Talk more about this equity, diversity, inclusion, because that has actually been the majority of the outrage from some of the public pressure, at least what I've seen. 0.97
00:25:19.000 Right.
00:25:19.000 So that is, you know, just the larger umbrella of things that are falling under the policies that they're pushing, which are, again, ideological.
00:25:28.000 So it includes the policy 8040 as well as their critical race theory agenda, which essentially is using our teacher training as an opportunity to indoctrinate teachers with the basic ideology of critical race theory and then expecting, you know, implicitly expecting that to trickle down into the classroom.
00:25:52.000 And of course, we're seeing the impact of that as well.
00:25:55.000 So again, this school board is pressing policies that are ideological.
00:26:01.000 They are not educational.
00:26:04.000 And we have to stand against this.
00:26:05.000 This really is definitely Marxist ideology being pushed on our kids.
00:26:11.000 They are trickling it down into the classroom to indoctrinate them. 0.75
00:26:15.000 And as I said, we're seeing the interactions with kids intensify in ways that are negative because of both critical race theory and the transgender policy. 0.75
00:26:25.000 And this is not the way to do education.
00:26:28.000 This is not the way to teach kids how to interact with one another and how to navigate relationships.
00:26:33.000 And again, that would be why I'm, you know, so thankful for Tyson and ADF.
00:26:38.000 And as I said, the Lord putting me here, not just on the Charlie Kirk show, but in this court case and giving me the opportunity to fight for the kingdom.
00:26:49.000 So let me ask you one other question, Monica, about that.
00:26:53.000 How many years have you been teaching in Loudoun County Public Schools?
00:26:57.000 So I believe this is my 20th year in Loudoun, but I did teaching for 27 years.
00:27:03.000 So let me ask you, as someone who's been teaching for 27 years, you know what you're doing.
00:27:08.000 You know how to build people of good character.
00:27:11.000 How has education changed from the top down where you've seen it go in a direction that you probably never thought it would go?
00:27:19.000 Yeah, that's a great question, Charlie.
00:27:22.000 I can say that I've really watched the culture in education shift dramatically.
00:27:28.000 And I would say in the last five years, it has been very dramatic in terms of the kid culture and just the number of kids that I have now who suffer from all kinds of mental health issues, anxiety, depression, versus the number of kids that I had when I first started teaching 27 years ago.
00:27:51.000 It's just astronomical.
00:27:53.000 The number of kids who suffer from gender dysphoria or same-sex attraction, again, I may have had a handful of those in my first few years teaching.
00:28:03.000 It's, you know, so many more now.
00:28:08.000 The number of kids who suffer from, you know, suicide ideation now compared to 20 years ago.
00:28:14.000 Again, all of these things increasing.
00:28:17.000 I think a lot of it probably has to do with the level of time they spend on their phones and social media and being influenced by that wider culture.
00:28:27.000 But within education itself, I slowly started to see things kind of wear away at teachers and our ability to really instill good character.
00:28:39.000 I think it's important to understand like in education, we keep saying, oh, we have to teach character, but you don't teach character.
00:28:46.000 You actually develop character.
00:28:48.000 You build character.
00:28:49.000 How do you do that?
00:28:50.000 Well, if you don't put your name on your paper, you get a point off.
00:28:53.000 If you're late for class, you get a penalty.
00:28:56.000 If you're late doing your assignments, you have a penalty.
00:28:58.000 If you cheat, you have a penalty.
00:29:01.000 And over the last probably 10 years, I've noticed all of those things started to kind of trickle away.
00:29:07.000 You know, we had a time period where, you know, we can't grade homework.
00:29:11.000 We, you know, we can't create anything that would be considered a behavior, like not putting your name on your paper, which seems like a very simple thing, but those little things all taken away add up over time to now, you know, you have expected me in this classroom to not only educate kids, but also instill good character in them.
00:29:33.000 But you've taken away all of the tools that I have to be able to do that job well.
00:29:39.000 So it's pretty rough.
00:29:41.000 Yeah, that's unfortunately the state of American education, I hate to say.
00:29:45.000 So in closing, Tyson, talk broadly about ADF and how ADF charges clients nothing.
00:29:50.000 You come in and help people that are under attack and you elevate them in all sorts of different places.
00:29:56.000 You not just elevate them, you support them.
00:29:58.000 And it's charliekirk.com.
00:30:00.000 Click on the ADF banner.
00:30:02.000 Tyson, tell us even more about ADF.
00:30:06.000 Yeah, ADF is the world's largest law firm that focuses on the protection of freedom of speech, free exercise of religion, marriage and family rights, parental rights, and the right to life.
00:30:18.000 And we've had phenomenal success thanks to the Lord's blessings.
00:30:21.000 We've had 13 victories in the last 11 years at the U.S. Supreme Court.
00:30:27.000 We've participated in our 25 years in more than 64 victories at the U.S. Supreme Court in some way or another.
00:30:35.000 And we've got more than 70 attorneys that are working every day providing free legal advice to people like Monica and Kim and Tanner, because these cases many times will last for years and they incur millions and millions of dollars in fees.
00:30:51.000 Even almost nobody can afford to do that because we're not talking about damages.
00:30:56.000 Monica's not going to recover any damages for this. 1.00
00:30:59.000 This is just standing up for her legal rights. 1.00
00:31:01.000 And the important thing about this is Monica stands not just for her.
00:31:05.000 It's for every teacher across the country.
00:31:07.000 It's for every parent across the country who doesn't want their student to be forced to speak messages they disagree with.
00:31:12.000 These are broad principles that are going to protect everybody.
00:31:15.000 And Monica's willing to stand for that. 0.97
00:31:18.000 And that will benefit everybody.
00:31:19.000 And so, you know, we are an organization that says we're standing for fundamental rights and we're doing that because we think it's right.
00:31:26.000 And so we would love your listener support.
00:31:28.000 You know, financially, it would be great because we can, there are more, far more requests than we can ever do with.
00:31:35.000 And as you've said, the opposition has a lot more resources than we do.
00:31:39.000 Yes, they do.
00:31:41.000 But finally, I just want to add one last thing, Charlie.
00:31:44.000 Not only can they do that, we need to win the legal battles, but we have to win the public opinion battles.
00:31:50.000 We have to win public advocacy.
00:31:52.000 And one of the things about courage is that it becomes less courageous the more people that say it.
00:31:57.000 You know, they said Tanner was courageous.
00:31:59.000 He said three things.
00:32:00.000 I love my students.
00:32:02.000 I don't want to lie to them.
00:32:03.000 And I don't want to call a boy a girl.
00:32:05.000 The vast majority of Americans believe those three things and would say they're good, but they said he was courageous for saying it.
00:32:11.000 Why did they say that?
00:32:12.000 Because very few people are willing to say that.
00:32:14.000 They may believe it, but they're unwilling to say it.
00:32:17.000 So if more people would say that and speak it and tell why and educate themselves, it wouldn't be so courageous.
00:32:24.000 And it would be much easier for each one of us to speak those messages that we know deep down we believe, but we're too afraid to say.
00:32:31.000 Well said.
00:32:32.000 CharlieKirk.com, check out the EDF banner.
00:32:34.000 Tyson and Monica, thank you so much.
00:32:35.000 Monica, yes, final comment. 0.94
00:32:37.000 Yeah, can I just add like one last thing in terms of just sort of a broad 10,000 foot view of this issue?
00:32:44.000 And that is that, you know, we have sort of got to get back to the basics of language, that language matters, that words have meaning, that words convey meaning.
00:32:55.000 And so if teachers and students are forced to use a pronoun for another student that is not in alignment with their biological sex, then we're conveying to that student that gender is fluid.
00:33:10.000 And that's not true.
00:33:11.000 That's not in alignment with science.
00:33:13.000 That's not in alignment with their inner biology.
00:33:15.000 And that's not in alignment with reality.
00:33:17.000 So the best thing that we can do to love and care for any individual is to speak to them in language that is true, precise, and in conversance with reality.
00:33:30.000 And if we really think about it, I think these kids in some ways are in rebellion against the fact that every single one of us, we actually have a word stamped inside of us.
00:33:41.000 The word stamped inside of us, the abbreviated version is either XX or XY.
00:33:48.000 But if you unravel that abbreviation, you get the human DNA strand, which scientists say is 3 billion letters long.
00:33:56.000 If you stack those letters up, they are 7,000 times taller than the Empire State Building.
00:34:05.000 How then can as human beings, we have the audacity to look at that word, the longest word known to humanity, and think there's no author behind it.
00:34:15.000 There's no precise definition behind that word.
00:34:19.000 We could define that word however we want.
00:34:22.000 When we do that, we're actually living in a lie and we've lost ourselves. 1.00
00:34:26.000 And I think heartbreakingly for me, what I see with many of the transgender kids that I've had in the past is that that's what's going on with them. 1.00
00:34:34.000 They think that they can redefine who they are. 1.00
00:34:38.000 And that's not reality.
00:34:40.000 They have lost themselves.
00:34:41.000 You'll hear them say things like, well, I'm just trying to be my true and authentic self.
00:34:46.000 And my question is always, is that really what's happening?
00:34:49.000 Are you really trying to be your true and authentic self?
00:34:52.000 Or are you in rebellion against your true and authentic self?
00:34:56.000 The word stamped inside of you and the adults around them are doing them no good service by pushing it, saying, yes, go this direction rather than equipping them with the tools they need to embrace the reality of who they are.
00:35:16.000 They're actually erasing who they are and losing their true identity rather than embracing it.
00:35:21.000 That's beautifully well said.
00:35:23.000 Everybody, ship into the Freedom Fund at CharlieKirk.com.
00:35:26.000 Thank you, Modica and Alliance Defending Freedom and Tyson.
00:35:28.000 God bless you guys.
00:35:29.000 Talk to you soon.
00:35:30.000 Thank you.
00:35:30.000 God bless you.
00:35:33.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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