00:00:51.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:15.000He has a new book out called Republic Under Assault.
00:01:18.000Why'd you write the book, Tom, and kind of tie it to what we're looking at right now in our country?
00:01:24.000You know, we wanted to do a book updating everyone on the worst corruption scandal in American history.
00:01:30.000And, you know, I was prepping a speech and it occurred to me we've had all of these assaults on the institutions of our republic.
00:01:38.000We've had obviously the big attack on President Trump, the presidency, the idea that we elect a president and it's not subject to veto by any deep staters.
00:01:51.000And then we had the assault on our border, where they were trying to wreck our borders and really wreck our sovereignty and our nation completely.
00:02:00.000We obviously had the coup impeachment, which just escalated things from beyond Mueller to even worse corruption.
00:02:09.000And then we also have the attack on our election systems, where you have the left maniacally trying to undermine virtually any security measure related to election integrity.
00:02:37.000And most recently, of course, we have the communist insurrection that has just lifted the veil completely in terms of what their real agenda is, which is the overthrow of our government.
00:04:16.000And I mean, we, meaning Americans who think they're liberal or conservative in the traditional sense of the word, they reject all of that.
00:04:24.000And that's why it's no surprise to me when they target liberals because they reject liberalism, even as the modern-day liberals understand it.
00:04:37.000And then on top of that, we've got this kind of kleptocracy, this criminal class that's been running DC for so long that is allowing it to go on because they see political benefit from it.
00:04:50.000And they see it as another way to prevent accountability for their really quite apparent criminal misconduct, whether it be Hillary Clinton or now we're seeing it confirmed that it was just as much about protecting Biden as Hillary Clinton.
00:05:10.000I agree with the analysis and the description of a kleptocratic government.
00:05:14.000In fact, I have warned for the last couple of years that's where we're headed.
00:05:18.000And it's a little bit of a cynical view, to be honest, but I think it's accurate.
00:05:23.000And it really started when you and Judicial Watch started exposing the Hillary Clinton email scandal and the destruction of devices, the tarmac meeting.
00:05:33.000That's when I started to recognize and realize more so than any other time in my short political career that there really is kind of a gangster class that runs our government.
00:05:43.000And they believe that the country is theirs to exploit.
00:05:47.000They believe the riches are for them to collect.
00:05:50.000They believe the laws are not for them to live by.
00:05:53.000And they believe that anyone dares question them, they should be punished for opening their mouth.
00:05:58.000These are people in both political parties, but less so.
00:06:01.000I don't see Republicans doing any of this.
00:06:03.000Instead, I see it almost primarily on the Democrat Party in the last couple of years.
00:06:09.000And the way they operate, the sophistication, not even the sophistication, I shouldn't say that, but the brazenness that they operate with is so incredibly awful for a democracy and for a republic, more specifically, as you mentioned.
00:06:25.000Tom, what is going on with the Biden crime family scandal?
00:06:32.000And then I want to build out all these pieces together because you've been on top of it.
00:06:36.000But can you just give us an update of what we've learned when it comes to Joe Biden and Hunter Biden selling out our country to our foreign adversaries?
00:06:46.000Well, we've had confirmation that the laptop is real.
00:06:49.000We've had confirmation that emails in the laptop are real.
00:06:52.000We've had confirmation, at least as of today, that the FBI is interested in talking to Joe Biden's or Hunter Biden's business partner, Mr. Bubliowski, I think his name is.
00:07:09.000It took us an hour of radio to get it right.
00:07:11.000Well, Mr. B, who has confirmed, because he's the recipient of the email, that the big guy in the sleazy China deal outlined in the Hunter Biden material is indeed Joe Biden.
00:07:25.000And the fact that the FBI is only interviewing him, or supposedly is going to interview him today or shortly, highlights the other aspect of the scandal is that the FBI and Justice Department had this material since late last year and evidently haven't done anything with it and kept it quiet during impeachment, despite the material in it being particularly relevant to why President Trump was targeted.
00:07:55.000You know what's what struck me is I always suspected there was a lot to the Biden scandal, given the desperate effort by the left to destroy Trump for asking questions about it.
00:08:05.000You know, Trump being, as in, as, you know, being the instincts always, almost always being correct as to where the corruption is, he was like, what's going on with Ukraine?
00:08:16.000What's what happened with Biden and Barisma?
00:08:19.000And he was right to ask questions about it.
00:08:23.000suggests, oh my gosh, there must have been something there.
00:08:26.000Now we know that the Ukraine dealings was a side hustle, practically speaking, for the Biden gang, that the big money was even elsewhere in dramatic fashion with China, it looks like.
00:08:41.000Yeah, and Joe, and you can see with how the tech companies came to the rescue for the Bidens initially when any of this reporting started.
00:08:50.000Is there any evidence, Tom, that this is Russian disinformation?
00:09:21.000And Adam Schiff, he knew what Biden was up to.
00:09:24.000All of these folks should be asked questions about what they knew and when about Joe Biden, because the dirty little secret in Washington, D.C. is there are no dirty little secrets.
00:09:34.000Usually this corruption is well known among the political class.
00:09:39.000And my guess is there's not a member in the Senate, with certainly people in the House who have been around, who are surprised by anything that's coming out about what Joe Biden was up to.
00:09:48.000And they should be very nervous because these multi-decade members of Congress have all done various deals at a lesser extent of spouses sitting on board members, approving pork, approving certain deals for certain corporations that need some sort of favors, and they'll take care of your son or your daughter.
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00:11:15.000So, Tom, I want to build this out a little bit further and deeper when it comes to the corruption that we are seeing in the DC political class.
00:11:27.000And it seems that there are two Americas, as John Edwards said, and he was definitely corrupt himself and awful.
00:11:37.000But the two Americas are the one America that allows you to do whatever you want with any sort of accountability.
00:11:45.000And the other America seems to be, if you dare disagree with the dogmatic status quo opinion, they're going to target you.
00:11:56.000Are we seeing this more clearly than ever, that there really is a ruling class that is untouched by our justice system?
00:12:07.000At least a portion of the ruling class operates as if the rules don't apply to it.
00:12:11.000You know, we're always going to have elites in a country, right?
00:12:17.000You know, but during the founding period of the country and really largely up until recently, the values of the elites were in sync with the values of the majority of Americans.
00:12:56.000I'm convinced, and I'm going to give Judicial Watch credit, that if Judicial Watch didn't start yelling about Robert Mueller and the corruption surrounding his appointment almost alone.
00:13:07.000And you were the one that exposed Andrew Weissman.
00:13:10.000You're the one that actually helped find the text messages between the lovers, if I'm not mistaken.
00:13:16.000Well, well, we put pressure on them to start producing the material.
00:13:19.000We found out that Andrew Weissman was an anti-Trumper praising Sally Yates for her corrupt opposition to the president's restrictions on travel into the United States to protect our national security.
00:13:34.000Then we subsequently found out that Andrew Weissman was conspiring with the Associated Press to try to take out Paul Manafort improperly.
00:13:43.000I don't know what else we can be doing to expose the corruption behind the scheme against President Trump.
00:13:50.000You know, we've already documented it, but the point is that we were talking about it contemporaneously with it happening.
00:13:56.000And I think if we weren't talking about it and putting pressure on behalf of the rule of law, they would have just run roughshod over the whole city in terms of throwing out the president.
00:14:09.000Do you think that Hunter and Joe Biden will face any sort of criminal charges through all this?
00:14:50.000You know, just look, I always go back to that FBI Justice Department investigation of those parents who were paying to have their kids put into... Lori Laughlin and all of that.
00:16:10.000And what I'm worried about, Tom, and the only way we can remedy this is by winning an election.
00:16:16.000What I'm worried about is that there are people on the other side that are so just unmoved by facts or what's actually happening in our country under the premise that they are the ambassadors of truth that the country can't survive this.
00:16:31.000You cannot have one group of people like Leslie, that's an important position of power, talking to millions of people, saying, Well, you're saying there's no evidence you spied on it.
00:16:41.000It legitimately and actually happened.
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00:17:51.000And the danger of voter fraud is that it's hard to detect.
00:17:55.000Voter fraud prosecutions are a fraction of the cases that are brought to any prosecutor's attention.
00:18:03.000And of course, that's just a fraction of what's really going on.
00:18:06.000And it's hard enough to detect when it's in person because there are many county states where voter ID isn't required or the voter ID that is required is just silly in terms of it not being enough to justify to cement anyone's identity.
00:18:26.000You can bring in a utility bill and that's enough in many places.
00:18:30.000But when you've got 100 million ballots and ballot applications being put in the mail and being mailed to dirty voting lists, as we know has happened, then the opportunities for fraud are legion and they're almost impossible to detect.
00:18:46.000I mean, don't believe me, believe the Baker-Carter Commission, James Baker, the old Republican hand, and Jimmy Carter, the former president.
00:18:54.000And they highlighted the fact that vote by mail, absentee balloting, it's harder to detect fraud, especially vote buying schemes.
00:19:03.000So, and on top of that, the left is undermining any of the security measures you might want if you're going to have vote by mail.
00:19:10.000They don't like witness requirements, they don't like signature requirements, they don't like even postmark requirements.
00:19:17.000I mean, we're worried about them counting ballots in Pennsylvania for three days after the election, or I think it's six days in North Carolina now.
00:19:26.000In California, it's not a dispute, they will be counting ballots for 17 days after Election Day.
00:19:36.000And it will only allow them to continue to manufacture ballots and manufacture all of this stuff.
00:19:43.000So is there have there been any wins on the front of suing and trying to make this process better in the last couple of weeks or months to try to hold this mail-in voting scheme accountable?
00:19:57.000Well, the Republicans have been playing defense to try to stop changes in the rules, and they've been, I would say, 90% successful.
00:20:08.000But for instance, in Pennsylvania, where they're going to be able to, in theory, count ballots that have not been postmarked up to three days after Election Day, you know, all they need to do is change over one state the left does in order to compromise the election.
00:20:26.000You know, I know in California, we sued the governor over his plan on his own just to mail ballots to virtually everyone on the voting list.
00:20:36.000And we said, A, you're not able to do that under the law.
00:20:39.000And B, your current plan would have ballots going to people who are dead or likely moved away.
00:20:45.000So the legislature blessed his ability to mail the ballots, and he promised he wouldn't be mailing those inactive voters.
00:20:52.000But as we've pointed out, that when you've got a lot of bad names on the list that you know are bad, meaning they're inactive, it means the rest of the list can't be trusted or at least trusted enough to mail them blindly.
00:21:04.000We have a study coming out, or just as out, and I don't know if you've seen it yet, Charlie.
00:21:08.000We did looking at census data, the best recent available census data, I think it goes to 2018.
00:21:15.000Their most recent voter registration data across 37 or so states.
00:21:20.000And we found in 29 states, they had 1.8 million extra names in the rolls than people living there and eligible to vote.
00:22:27.000I think it's because they want that bumper.
00:22:29.000They want that insurance of having extra names on the rolls to be used in case they need them in an election stealing scheme.
00:22:39.000You know, when you combine that with voter ID, they oppose asking anyone to verify their citizenship.
00:22:44.000I mean, that's something else we're not allowed to talk about.
00:22:48.000We have tens of millions of aliens, both legal and otherwise, here in the United States, and we're supposed to believe none of them are registered to vote and none of them vote.
00:22:58.000And you add all this up, maybe 5,000 fraudulent ballots here, 6,000 fraudulent ballots there.
00:23:05.000You're talking about margins of victory that can be very considerable in favor of the Democrats.
00:23:11.000There's been over 1,000 documented and indicted cases, documented cases of voter fraud in just the last couple of years, over 1,000.
00:23:22.000And yet they say that there is no evidence at all of this whatsoever.
00:23:26.000Tom, I want to ask you, I want to shift gears for a second.
00:23:29.000You and I have been talking about this for months.
00:23:31.000You've been coming on our program, and you and I have agreed on this.
00:23:35.000And I've just been asking, where is Durham?
00:23:54.000Well, I would be pleased as punch to be wrong, but I haven't seen any evidence that they have done the type of investigation that would result in significant prosecutions.
00:24:07.000You saw during the Mueller investigation, and it was abusive, admittedly, but some of that is the indicia of a serious federal grand jury-related investigation.
00:24:18.000You have witnesses coming in, lawyers convetching about their witnesses having to come in.
00:24:26.000You have all of that noise around a significant investigation.
00:24:32.000And just because grand jury proceedings are secret in terms of what goes on in them, it doesn't mean people are legally prohibited from talking about them, namely witnesses or reporters figuring out that grand juries are taking information.
00:24:45.000And we have no evidence that those have been impaneled.
00:24:48.000And certainly Attorney General Barr, he said earlier this year that there is no evidence, and I'm paraphrasing, but essentially that Barr and, excuse me, that Biden and Obama are not being targeted for investigation.
00:25:06.000And, you know, Comey came in and he talked.
00:25:09.000I tell you what, I keep on saying it's one thing to say, look, we did an investigation, Tom and Charlie.
00:25:25.000I don't think they've brought in key people to be questioned.
00:25:28.000How can you draw any conclusions about what went on without talking to Obama, without talking to Biden, without talking to Hillary Clinton?
00:25:50.000Well, they're coming to a conclusion, I would think, about what they plan to do.
00:26:00.000You know, the fact is Brennan's on TV talking about stuff all the time.
00:26:04.000Lisa Page, Peter Strzzok, James Comey, they got book deals, TVs.
00:26:09.000They're instructing a professor at Georgetown now.
00:26:12.000Yeah, I mean, does that is any of, you know, maybe they're just, maybe it's just false signs of bravado that they're just pretending that they don't face criminal liability for what they did.
00:26:23.000It's a great act amongst a bunch of people.
00:26:26.000And I just don't see any prosecutions coming down the pike.
00:26:29.000And I hope I'm wrong because there's more than enough evidence, at least publicly available evidence, to justify prosecutions from Comey on down and of that cabinet-level agency type on down.
00:26:49.000Biden was the one that was in that intelligence scheme that launched the entire coup.
00:26:56.000Not coup is, I mean, I don't know if it was at that point, but it was the effort to get to find Clint Flynn to go after Michael Flynn.
00:27:04.000And still Flynn is still, yeah, Flynn is still fighting in the federal courts right now while Joe Biden is able to get this close to the presidency of the United States, this close, while he's selling our country out and he's the one that launches the Logan Act.
00:27:20.000If President Trump loses, where does all this stuff go?
00:27:29.000If there's nothing going on, it's not much is going to change.
00:27:35.000If Durham plans something substantial, it may still proceed.
00:27:39.000I don't believe necessarily Biden coming in is the end of a substantial investigation.
00:27:46.000You know, from Judicial Watch's perspective, we've been doing this a long time.
00:27:50.000And for good and for bad, the Justice Department and the way it operates really doesn't change from administration to administration.
00:27:58.000Things go on, maybe they get squelched, but it just keeps on moving.
00:28:03.000And if there's serious investigations and you have a U.S. attorney like Durham willing and wanting to do a prosecution, you know, Biden is going to have some difficulty interfering with that.
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00:31:02.000And along those lines, in terms of the Republic being under assault, has obviously been them leveraging coronavirus to shut the country down.
00:31:13.000And you may not know this, but we just have new documents coming out from Dr. Fauci's emails where, oh, surprise, surprise, WHO wanted to push a statement out early on during the coronavirus issue praising China.
00:31:32.000And they said, we're going to put a statement out and we want to be supportive, especially of China.
00:31:39.000And Dr. Fauci approved the statement, obviously.
00:31:42.000That doesn't surprise me at all whatsoever.
00:31:45.000And you're the one that is doing the FOIAs.
00:31:47.000You're the one that is actually challenging these things in the courts.
00:31:50.000That's why we love what you're doing at Judicial Watch.
00:31:52.000Tom, I get this question all the time from grassroots warriors.
00:32:24.000There are groups out there that they can leverage their individual support in a greater way through organizations like Turning Point and Judicial Watch.
00:33:02.000It's tough to sue if you don't get an answer.
00:33:05.000But you'd be surprised the open records laws at the state level are often much more friendlier to requesters than we have to contend with oftentimes at the federal level.
00:33:17.000So you might get some interesting answers.
00:33:19.000And even asking the question is good enough sometimes because it puts them on notice someone is watching.
00:33:42.000And the law puts us on equal standing with the agencies in terms of making them accountable to us.
00:33:48.000And you should exercise that precious right because as we're discussing, it can be taken away in a heartbeat.
00:33:54.000In certain states and certain counties, a FOIA request can be done via email by just a series of questions.
00:34:02.000Every city and state and county has different barriers to it.
00:34:06.000But I know that in the suburbs of Chicago, you'll call up them.
00:34:09.000You say, I want to submit a FOIA request.
00:34:10.000They say, what information are you seeking?
00:34:12.000For example, District 214, where I went to high school, you say, I want teacher salaries and I want COVID cases.
00:34:19.000I want COVID deaths and I want COVID hospitalizations for all students.
00:34:24.000And they have by law 10 days to answer to you.
00:34:26.000And they have a full-time person at District 214 that handles FOIA requests.
00:34:31.000Guess what she usually says when we call?
00:34:33.000Oh, yeah, we haven't really had anybody call recently.
00:34:36.000It's amazing that if every person, if every person listening to this just use this simple FOIA law to your advantage, just ask more questions than you ever think would justify answers, but that would also make people think twice.
00:34:52.000And when we did this for 214, we got the answers back.
00:34:56.000They had zero hospitalizations of students, zero deaths of students, 25 confirmed cases, and they shut down all the schools in District 214.
00:35:05.000And we got the salaries and they were $138,000 a year teacher salaries in the suburbs of Chicago.
00:36:03.000And my advice to both political parties, Charlie, is you got a clean house.
00:36:09.000You know, your values are always going to be compromised, and your policies will always be compromised by corrupt people in your midst in either political party.
00:36:18.000It's usually the corruption that stops good things from happening in terms of policy.
00:36:23.000And if Democrats want to be successful, they got to get this corruption out.
00:36:28.000And, you know, in many ways, Trump was incorruptible coming in because he was outside the D.C.-Washington mix that has distracted so many Republicans from doing good things because they had pensions for taking care of their buddies as opposed to pursuing good policies as well.
00:36:45.000And the president just doesn't seem to care about that as much because he's not a politician in the traditional sense of the word.
00:36:51.000And if I'm not a Democrat, I'd be finding more, I'd be finding Trumpian figures in that regard to protect against the Biden-type Hillary corruption that has saddled them for, you know, since 1992.