The Charlie Kirk Show - Exposing the Biden Crime Family with Tom Fitton

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00:00:09.000 Today we got Tom Fitton from Judicial Watch.

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00:01:02.000 Hey, everybody.

00:01:03.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:06.000 With us today is a friend of mine, one of the few American patriots who is fighting for what is good and what is right in Washington, D.C.

00:01:14.000 He is terrific.

00:01:15.000 He has a new book out called Republic Under Assault.

00:01:18.000 Why'd you write the book, Tom, and kind of tie it to what we're looking at right now in our country?

00:01:24.000 You know, we wanted to do a book updating everyone on the worst corruption scandal in American history.

00:01:30.000 And, you know, I was prepping a speech and it occurred to me we've had all of these assaults on the institutions of our republic.

00:01:38.000 We've had obviously the big attack on President Trump, the presidency, the idea that we elect a president and it's not subject to veto by any deep staters.

00:01:51.000 And then we had the assault on our border, where they were trying to wreck our borders and really wreck our sovereignty and our nation completely.

00:02:00.000 We obviously had the coup impeachment, which just escalated things from beyond Mueller to even worse corruption.

00:02:09.000 And then we also have the attack on our election systems, where you have the left maniacally trying to undermine virtually any security measure related to election integrity.

00:02:22.000 So our republic's under assault.

00:02:25.000 You know, the idea that we govern ourselves, we have the rule of law, we have a border and citizenship.

00:02:35.000 The left rejects all of that.

00:02:37.000 And most recently, of course, we have the communist insurrection that has just lifted the veil completely in terms of what their real agenda is, which is the overthrow of our government.

00:02:50.000 So let's dive into that.

00:02:52.000 We use that language sometimes about the insurrectionists, about the people that wish us harm.

00:02:57.000 And the activist media, they say that this is fear-mongering and not true at all whatsoever.

00:03:01.000 Can you help build that out and talk about how they really want to overthrow the system of government that we enjoy?

00:03:13.000 And you remember a few years ago when they were taking down or attacking statues of Confederate generals and politicians.

00:03:23.000 And President Trump said, well, why not Jefferson and George Washington?

00:03:29.000 And from the communist revolutionary perspective, they're like, yeah, why not?

00:03:34.000 They reject our constitutional system.

00:03:37.000 They think it's fundamentally flawed and evil.

00:03:40.000 When they say they're, quote, anti-fascist, they mean they are anti-anyone who is anti-communist.

00:03:47.000 And they don't believe in allowing us to govern ourselves under our constitutional system under the U.S. Constitution.

00:03:56.000 They think the U.S. Constitution is a racist, classist document.

00:04:00.000 So they reject everything that we kind of accept in our nation's political life.

00:04:07.000 Both, I think, both sensible Republicans and Democrats, to be fair.

00:04:11.000 I mean, we think they don't play on our playground.

00:04:14.000 They don't believe what we believe.

00:04:16.000 And I mean, we, meaning Americans who think they're liberal or conservative in the traditional sense of the word, they reject all of that.

00:04:24.000 And that's why it's no surprise to me when they target liberals because they reject liberalism, even as the modern-day liberals understand it.

00:04:35.000 It's a dire threat to the Republic.

00:04:37.000 And then on top of that, we've got this kind of kleptocracy, this criminal class that's been running DC for so long that is allowing it to go on because they see political benefit from it.

00:04:50.000 And they see it as another way to prevent accountability for their really quite apparent criminal misconduct, whether it be Hillary Clinton or now we're seeing it confirmed that it was just as much about protecting Biden as Hillary Clinton.

00:05:07.000 Yeah, so let's get into that.

00:05:10.000 I agree with the analysis and the description of a kleptocratic government.

00:05:14.000 In fact, I have warned for the last couple of years that's where we're headed.

00:05:18.000 And it's a little bit of a cynical view, to be honest, but I think it's accurate.

00:05:23.000 And it really started when you and Judicial Watch started exposing the Hillary Clinton email scandal and the destruction of devices, the tarmac meeting.

00:05:33.000 That's when I started to recognize and realize more so than any other time in my short political career that there really is kind of a gangster class that runs our government.

00:05:43.000 And they believe that the country is theirs to exploit.

00:05:47.000 They believe the riches are for them to collect.

00:05:50.000 They believe the laws are not for them to live by.

00:05:53.000 And they believe that anyone dares question them, they should be punished for opening their mouth.

00:05:58.000 These are people in both political parties, but less so.

00:06:01.000 I don't see Republicans doing any of this.

00:06:03.000 Instead, I see it almost primarily on the Democrat Party in the last couple of years.

00:06:09.000 And the way they operate, the sophistication, not even the sophistication, I shouldn't say that, but the brazenness that they operate with is so incredibly awful for a democracy and for a republic, more specifically, as you mentioned.

00:06:25.000 Tom, what is going on with the Biden crime family scandal?

00:06:32.000 And then I want to build out all these pieces together because you've been on top of it.

00:06:36.000 But can you just give us an update of what we've learned when it comes to Joe Biden and Hunter Biden selling out our country to our foreign adversaries?

00:06:46.000 Well, we've had confirmation that the laptop is real.

00:06:49.000 We've had confirmation that emails in the laptop are real.

00:06:52.000 We've had confirmation, at least as of today, that the FBI is interested in talking to Joe Biden's or Hunter Biden's business partner, Mr. Bubliowski, I think his name is.

00:07:05.000 I don't want to mispronounce it.

00:07:06.000 Bob Ulinski.

00:07:09.000 It took us an hour of radio to get it right.

00:07:11.000 Well, Mr. B, who has confirmed, because he's the recipient of the email, that the big guy in the sleazy China deal outlined in the Hunter Biden material is indeed Joe Biden.

00:07:25.000 And the fact that the FBI is only interviewing him, or supposedly is going to interview him today or shortly, highlights the other aspect of the scandal is that the FBI and Justice Department had this material since late last year and evidently haven't done anything with it and kept it quiet during impeachment, despite the material in it being particularly relevant to why President Trump was targeted.

00:07:55.000 You know what's what struck me is I always suspected there was a lot to the Biden scandal, given the desperate effort by the left to destroy Trump for asking questions about it.

00:08:05.000 You know, Trump being, as in, as, you know, being the instincts always, almost always being correct as to where the corruption is, he was like, what's going on with Ukraine?

00:08:16.000 What's what happened with Biden and Barisma?

00:08:19.000 And he was right to ask questions about it.

00:08:21.000 And their overreaction.

00:08:23.000 suggests, oh my gosh, there must have been something there.

00:08:26.000 Now we know that the Ukraine dealings was a side hustle, practically speaking, for the Biden gang, that the big money was even elsewhere in dramatic fashion with China, it looks like.

00:08:41.000 Yeah, and Joe, and you can see with how the tech companies came to the rescue for the Bidens initially when any of this reporting started.

00:08:50.000 Is there any evidence, Tom, that this is Russian disinformation?

00:08:57.000 No, it's disinformation designed.

00:09:02.000 If there's any disinformation, is from Biden defenders who are knowingly putting out a lie that the Russians somehow are behind this.

00:09:11.000 How is China money tied to Russia?

00:09:13.000 I'm trying to figure that out.

00:09:15.000 Look, this is just an extension of the Russia smear.

00:09:19.000 It's Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:09:21.000 And Adam Schiff, he knew what Biden was up to.

00:09:24.000 All of these folks should be asked questions about what they knew and when about Joe Biden, because the dirty little secret in Washington, D.C. is there are no dirty little secrets.

00:09:34.000 Usually this corruption is well known among the political class.

00:09:39.000 And my guess is there's not a member in the Senate, with certainly people in the House who have been around, who are surprised by anything that's coming out about what Joe Biden was up to.

00:09:48.000 And they should be very nervous because these multi-decade members of Congress have all done various deals at a lesser extent of spouses sitting on board members, approving pork, approving certain deals for certain corporations that need some sort of favors, and they'll take care of your son or your daughter.

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00:11:15.000 So, Tom, I want to build this out a little bit further and deeper when it comes to the corruption that we are seeing in the DC political class.

00:11:27.000 And it seems that there are two Americas, as John Edwards said, and he was definitely corrupt himself and awful.

00:11:37.000 But the two Americas are the one America that allows you to do whatever you want with any sort of accountability.

00:11:45.000 And the other America seems to be, if you dare disagree with the dogmatic status quo opinion, they're going to target you.

00:11:56.000 Are we seeing this more clearly than ever, that there really is a ruling class that is untouched by our justice system?

00:12:06.000 There is. 0.54

00:12:07.000 At least a portion of the ruling class operates as if the rules don't apply to it.

00:12:11.000 You know, we're always going to have elites in a country, right?

00:12:17.000 You know, but during the founding period of the country and really largely up until recently, the values of the elites were in sync with the values of the majority of Americans.

00:12:29.000 There's no in sync.

00:12:30.000 That synchronicity has been lost.

00:12:34.000 And they have continued to the values of most Americans now.

00:12:38.000 They don't believe the rules apply to them.

00:12:40.000 And if you put in a president they don't like, for instance, they'll break the rules in order to get him out.

00:12:46.000 And we're all supposed to forget about impeachment, right?

00:12:51.000 I'm not going to forget about it.

00:12:53.000 Our country was almost lost.

00:12:55.000 It was a close-run thing.

00:12:56.000 I'm convinced, and I'm going to give Judicial Watch credit, that if Judicial Watch didn't start yelling about Robert Mueller and the corruption surrounding his appointment almost alone.

00:13:07.000 And you were the one that exposed Andrew Weissman.

00:13:10.000 You're the one that actually helped find the text messages between the lovers, if I'm not mistaken.

00:13:16.000 Well, well, we put pressure on them to start producing the material.

00:13:19.000 We found out that Andrew Weissman was an anti-Trumper praising Sally Yates for her corrupt opposition to the president's restrictions on travel into the United States to protect our national security.

00:13:34.000 Then we subsequently found out that Andrew Weissman was conspiring with the Associated Press to try to take out Paul Manafort improperly.

00:13:43.000 I don't know what else we can be doing to expose the corruption behind the scheme against President Trump.

00:13:50.000 You know, we've already documented it, but the point is that we were talking about it contemporaneously with it happening.

00:13:56.000 And I think if we weren't talking about it and putting pressure on behalf of the rule of law, they would have just run roughshod over the whole city in terms of throwing out the president.

00:14:09.000 Do you think that Hunter and Joe Biden will face any sort of criminal charges through all this?

00:14:16.000 Oh, boy.

00:14:17.000 You know, I hope so.

00:14:20.000 But we'll need different people investigating them.

00:14:24.000 You know, past experience is usually the best indication of future results.

00:14:27.000 And past experience is that because they're part of that class that we've talked about, they won't get the investigation necessary.

00:14:36.000 Look, we already have evidence of that.

00:14:38.000 The FBI and DOJ sat on this material.

00:14:41.000 If I were the president, I would appoint a special counsel.

00:14:43.000 I'd have separate law enforcement agencies looking at this.

00:14:46.000 I don't trust the FBI to do anything.

00:14:50.000 You know, just look, I always go back to that FBI Justice Department investigation of those parents who were paying to have their kids put into... Lori Laughlin and all of that.

00:15:03.000 Yeah.

00:15:04.000 No, look, I don't support breaking the rules.

00:15:07.000 But was that the most important thing the FBI needed to be doing?

00:15:11.000 But that's what they were doing as Obamacare happened, as evidence about Hunter Biden fell into its laps.

00:15:18.000 That's what their focus was on. 0.69

00:15:20.000 Silly, unimportant investigations where the big corruption is ignored. 0.85

00:15:28.000 Not just the big corruption, but the corruption that affects everyone. 0.84

00:15:31.000 The institutional, governmental corruption was ignored and validated.

00:15:36.000 And then you have that woman from 60 Minutes, Leslie, say there's no evidence that your campaign was spied on.

00:15:43.000 It is so pathologically untrue.

00:15:46.000 It is Orwellian doublespeak.

00:15:49.000 It is not just untrue, it is the opposite of the truth.

00:15:53.000 Not only was Trump's campaign spied on, you guys tried to cover it up.

00:15:56.000 You did it illegally.

00:15:58.000 You lied about it.

00:15:59.000 You launched an entire investigation to throw smokescreen against us as we tried to look into it.

00:16:05.000 And yet, Leslie says, There's no evidence of that at all, Mr. President.

00:16:08.000 How dare you say that?

00:16:10.000 And what I'm worried about, Tom, and the only way we can remedy this is by winning an election.

00:16:16.000 What I'm worried about is that there are people on the other side that are so just unmoved by facts or what's actually happening in our country under the premise that they are the ambassadors of truth that the country can't survive this.

00:16:31.000 You cannot have one group of people like Leslie, that's an important position of power, talking to millions of people, saying, Well, you're saying there's no evidence you spied on it.

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00:17:42.000 People say voter fraud is not real.

00:17:44.000 Is voter fraud real?

00:17:46.000 Of course it's real.

00:17:48.000 We see stories about it every day.

00:17:51.000 And the danger of voter fraud is that it's hard to detect.

00:17:55.000 Voter fraud prosecutions are a fraction of the cases that are brought to any prosecutor's attention.

00:18:03.000 And of course, that's just a fraction of what's really going on.

00:18:06.000 And it's hard enough to detect when it's in person because there are many county states where voter ID isn't required or the voter ID that is required is just silly in terms of it not being enough to justify to cement anyone's identity.

00:18:26.000 You can bring in a utility bill and that's enough in many places.

00:18:30.000 But when you've got 100 million ballots and ballot applications being put in the mail and being mailed to dirty voting lists, as we know has happened, then the opportunities for fraud are legion and they're almost impossible to detect.

00:18:46.000 I mean, don't believe me, believe the Baker-Carter Commission, James Baker, the old Republican hand, and Jimmy Carter, the former president.

00:18:54.000 And they highlighted the fact that vote by mail, absentee balloting, it's harder to detect fraud, especially vote buying schemes.

00:19:03.000 So, and on top of that, the left is undermining any of the security measures you might want if you're going to have vote by mail.

00:19:10.000 They don't like witness requirements, they don't like signature requirements, they don't like even postmark requirements.

00:19:17.000 I mean, we're worried about them counting ballots in Pennsylvania for three days after the election, or I think it's six days in North Carolina now.

00:19:26.000 In California, it's not a dispute, they will be counting ballots for 17 days after Election Day.

00:19:34.000 17 days, Charlie.

00:19:36.000 And it will only allow them to continue to manufacture ballots and manufacture all of this stuff.

00:19:43.000 So is there have there been any wins on the front of suing and trying to make this process better in the last couple of weeks or months to try to hold this mail-in voting scheme accountable?

00:19:57.000 Well, the Republicans have been playing defense to try to stop changes in the rules, and they've been, I would say, 90% successful.

00:20:08.000 But for instance, in Pennsylvania, where they're going to be able to, in theory, count ballots that have not been postmarked up to three days after Election Day, you know, all they need to do is change over one state the left does in order to compromise the election.

00:20:26.000 You know, I know in California, we sued the governor over his plan on his own just to mail ballots to virtually everyone on the voting list.

00:20:36.000 And we said, A, you're not able to do that under the law.

00:20:39.000 And B, your current plan would have ballots going to people who are dead or likely moved away.

00:20:45.000 So the legislature blessed his ability to mail the ballots, and he promised he wouldn't be mailing those inactive voters.

00:20:52.000 But as we've pointed out, that when you've got a lot of bad names on the list that you know are bad, meaning they're inactive, it means the rest of the list can't be trusted or at least trusted enough to mail them blindly.

00:21:04.000 We have a study coming out, or just as out, and I don't know if you've seen it yet, Charlie.

00:21:08.000 We did looking at census data, the best recent available census data, I think it goes to 2018.

00:21:15.000 Their most recent voter registration data across 37 or so states.

00:21:20.000 And we found in 29 states, they had 1.8 million extra names in the rolls than people living there and eligible to vote.

00:21:30.000 That's unbelievable.

00:21:32.000 1.8 million.

00:21:34.000 So some people are saying that even there are more registered voters in some of these states than people that are alive.

00:21:42.000 I mean, why is it that some of these states refuse to clean their voter rolls?

00:21:50.000 The left opposes it because I don't think there's any reasonable reason to oppose it.

00:21:57.000 It's not a hard, it's not an unreasonable requirement that the states take reasonable steps to clean up the rolls.

00:22:03.000 The current law is, Charlie, let's say you don't vote this year.

00:22:07.000 They send you a postcard.

00:22:09.000 If you don't respond to the postcard and then you don't vote in the next two federal election cycles, then they take your name off.

00:22:17.000 So you're talking, what, maybe four, five, potentially six years of inactivity before your name is removed.

00:22:24.000 They oppose that.

00:22:25.000 Why would you oppose that?

00:22:27.000 I think it's because they want that bumper.

00:22:29.000 They want that insurance of having extra names on the rolls to be used in case they need them in an election stealing scheme.

00:22:39.000 You know, when you combine that with voter ID, they oppose asking anyone to verify their citizenship.

00:22:44.000 I mean, that's something else we're not allowed to talk about.

00:22:48.000 We have tens of millions of aliens, both legal and otherwise, here in the United States, and we're supposed to believe none of them are registered to vote and none of them vote.

00:22:58.000 And you add all this up, maybe 5,000 fraudulent ballots here, 6,000 fraudulent ballots there.

00:23:05.000 You're talking about margins of victory that can be very considerable in favor of the Democrats.

00:23:11.000 There's been over 1,000 documented and indicted cases, documented cases of voter fraud in just the last couple of years, over 1,000.

00:23:22.000 And yet they say that there is no evidence at all of this whatsoever.

00:23:26.000 Tom, I want to ask you, I want to shift gears for a second.

00:23:29.000 You and I have been talking about this for months.

00:23:31.000 You've been coming on our program, and you and I have agreed on this.

00:23:35.000 And I've just been asking, where is Durham?

00:23:37.000 What's going on?

00:23:37.000 Definitely no indictments are coming now, last 11 days before the election, maybe something after.

00:23:43.000 We had Rich Higgins on our podcast.

00:23:45.000 He's a bar believer and a bar defender.

00:23:47.000 He thinks they're sealed indictments.

00:23:49.000 He thinks things are locked, loaded, and ready to go.

00:23:52.000 What do you think?

00:23:54.000 Well, I would be pleased as punch to be wrong, but I haven't seen any evidence that they have done the type of investigation that would result in significant prosecutions.

00:24:07.000 You saw during the Mueller investigation, and it was abusive, admittedly, but some of that is the indicia of a serious federal grand jury-related investigation.

00:24:18.000 You have witnesses coming in, lawyers convetching about their witnesses having to come in.

00:24:24.000 You have grand jury appearances.

00:24:26.000 You have all of that noise around a significant investigation.

00:24:32.000 And just because grand jury proceedings are secret in terms of what goes on in them, it doesn't mean people are legally prohibited from talking about them, namely witnesses or reporters figuring out that grand juries are taking information.

00:24:45.000 And we have no evidence that those have been impaneled.

00:24:48.000 Seeing it.

00:24:48.000 And certainly Attorney General Barr, he said earlier this year that there is no evidence, and I'm paraphrasing, but essentially that Barr and, excuse me, that Biden and Obama are not being targeted for investigation.

00:25:06.000 And, you know, Comey came in and he talked.

00:25:09.000 I tell you what, I keep on saying it's one thing to say, look, we did an investigation, Tom and Charlie.

00:25:16.000 We had them all come in.

00:25:18.000 We had all the testimony.

00:25:19.000 And look, we don't have a case.

00:25:20.000 It's ugly, but we don't have a case.

00:25:23.000 I'm not seeing they even done that.

00:25:25.000 I don't think they've brought in key people to be questioned.

00:25:28.000 How can you draw any conclusions about what went on without talking to Obama, without talking to Biden, without talking to Hillary Clinton?

00:25:37.000 I don't even care.

00:25:38.000 Pretend they're not targets.

00:25:40.000 They certainly are witnesses.

00:25:43.000 And they talked to Brennan, right?

00:25:46.000 Which goes to show us what?

00:25:50.000 Well, they're coming to a conclusion, I would think, about what they plan to do.

00:26:00.000 You know, the fact is Brennan's on TV talking about stuff all the time.

00:26:04.000 Lisa Page, Peter Strzzok, James Comey, they got book deals, TVs.

00:26:09.000 They're instructing a professor at Georgetown now.

00:26:12.000 Yeah, I mean, does that is any of, you know, maybe they're just, maybe it's just false signs of bravado that they're just pretending that they don't face criminal liability for what they did.

00:26:22.000 But they certainly aren't.

00:26:23.000 It's a great act amongst a bunch of people.

00:26:26.000 And I just don't see any prosecutions coming down the pike.

00:26:29.000 And I hope I'm wrong because there's more than enough evidence, at least publicly available evidence, to justify prosecutions from Comey on down and of that cabinet-level agency type on down.

00:26:44.000 Comey, Brennan, Clapper, others.

00:26:47.000 And Biden was involved in this.

00:26:49.000 Biden was the one that was in that intelligence scheme that launched the entire coup.

00:26:56.000 Not coup is, I mean, I don't know if it was at that point, but it was the effort to get to find Clint Flynn to go after Michael Flynn.

00:27:04.000 And still Flynn is still, yeah, Flynn is still fighting in the federal courts right now while Joe Biden is able to get this close to the presidency of the United States, this close, while he's selling our country out and he's the one that launches the Logan Act.

00:27:20.000 If President Trump loses, where does all this stuff go?

00:27:29.000 If there's nothing going on, it's not much is going to change.

00:27:35.000 If Durham plans something substantial, it may still proceed.

00:27:39.000 I don't believe necessarily Biden coming in is the end of a substantial investigation.

00:27:46.000 You know, from Judicial Watch's perspective, we've been doing this a long time.

00:27:50.000 And for good and for bad, the Justice Department and the way it operates really doesn't change from administration to administration.

00:27:58.000 Things go on, maybe they get squelched, but it just keeps on moving.

00:28:03.000 And if there's serious investigations and you have a U.S. attorney like Durham willing and wanting to do a prosecution, you know, Biden is going to have some difficulty interfering with that.

00:28:15.000 But I'm not saying they won't.

00:28:16.000 I'm not saying they won't try.

00:28:18.000 I'm not saying they won't be successful.

00:28:20.000 I'm just saying it's not a done deal that this all shuts down, even with the Biden administration.

00:28:26.000 And you know what?

00:28:28.000 Judicial Watch ain't going to let it be shut down without a fight.

00:28:31.000 We're not going to stop asking.

00:28:33.000 I mean, we will continue.

00:28:36.000 Things won't much change at Judicial Watch after Election Day.

00:28:40.000 We're going to keep on fighting the Justice Department.

00:28:43.000 We're going to keep on fighting the FBI.

00:28:45.000 It's going to be a different administration, but the fights will continue and the quest for justice will continue.

00:28:50.000 It just may be more difficult, but we'll see.

00:28:53.000 As far as transparency goes, Charlie, I've been terribly disappointed in this Justice Department and FBI.

00:28:59.000 You know, I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the fact that things don't change that much to the matter of the administration.

00:29:06.000 But the casual, as you say, they think they are above the law.

00:29:11.000 And it's even worse in some ways with the Justice Department and FBI.

00:29:14.000 It's gotten worse in terms of transparency in many key respects since President Trump has come in.

00:29:20.000 And I think it's all because they want to make President Trump's life miserable.

00:29:25.000 Yeah, and the only way you can deal with these radicals, the only thing they understand is defeat.

00:29:30.000 This is political warfare.

00:29:32.000 You can't beat them in persuasion.

00:29:34.000 You can't beat them with facts or dialogue.

00:29:37.000 You have to beat them with the American people.

00:29:39.000 It is the only possible way that we can send a message against the ruling class.

00:29:43.000 And I think the president's surging.

00:29:45.000 He's in a very good position right now.

00:29:48.000 And I think that the president is in a better position than ever before.

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00:30:56.000 Welcome back, everybody.

00:30:56.000 We are here with Tom Fittin.

00:30:58.000 Tom, sorry, I cut you off there.

00:31:02.000 And along those lines, in terms of the Republic being under assault, has obviously been them leveraging coronavirus to shut the country down. 0.90

00:31:13.000 And you may not know this, but we just have new documents coming out from Dr. Fauci's emails where, oh, surprise, surprise, WHO wanted to push a statement out early on during the coronavirus issue praising China. 0.94

00:31:32.000 And they said, we're going to put a statement out and we want to be supportive, especially of China.

00:31:39.000 And Dr. Fauci approved the statement, obviously.

00:31:42.000 That doesn't surprise me at all whatsoever.

00:31:45.000 And you're the one that is doing the FOIAs.

00:31:47.000 You're the one that is actually challenging these things in the courts.

00:31:50.000 That's why we love what you're doing at Judicial Watch.

00:31:52.000 Tom, I get this question all the time from grassroots warriors.

00:31:55.000 They love your work.

00:31:56.000 They love seeing you on TV.

00:31:57.000 They listen to our podcast, but they say, what can I do?

00:32:00.000 I feel helpless.

00:32:01.000 I feel like we've lost our country, that maybe we can get President Trump re-elected.

00:32:06.000 But what can they do about this corruption?

00:32:08.000 What can people do on a micro level, a singular citizen to help improve our country and save the republic that is under assault?

00:32:16.000 Well, you know, they can support Judicial Watch.

00:32:19.000 They can support TPUSA.

00:32:24.000 There are groups out there that they can leverage their individual support in a greater way through organizations like Turning Point and Judicial Watch.

00:32:33.000 But separately, you see what we do.

00:32:36.000 When we ask the government for documents, we're using a law available to every United States citizen.

00:32:41.000 Ask your local election officials what they are doing, for instance, to clean up the voter rolls.

00:32:47.000 Do FOIAs to your school board.

00:32:49.000 Do FOIAs to your local county executive or local mayor.

00:32:53.000 There's nothing preventing you from using a law.

00:32:56.000 It's just, it's a government law asking about government records.

00:33:00.000 It's not rocket science.

00:33:02.000 It's tough to sue if you don't get an answer.

00:33:05.000 But you'd be surprised the open records laws at the state level are often much more friendlier to requesters than we have to contend with oftentimes at the federal level.

00:33:17.000 So you might get some interesting answers.

00:33:19.000 And even asking the question is good enough sometimes because it puts them on notice someone is watching.

00:33:25.000 Support Judicial Watch.

00:33:27.000 Support Turning Point.

00:33:29.000 And actually do little mini Judicial Watch activities with asking government questions about what it's up to.

00:33:37.000 We've got this precious, precious right to petition our government.

00:33:40.000 This is what this is about.

00:33:42.000 And the law puts us on equal standing with the agencies in terms of making them accountable to us.

00:33:48.000 And you should exercise that precious right because as we're discussing, it can be taken away in a heartbeat.

00:33:54.000 In certain states and certain counties, a FOIA request can be done via email by just a series of questions.

00:34:02.000 Every city and state and county has different barriers to it.

00:34:06.000 But I know that in the suburbs of Chicago, you'll call up them.

00:34:09.000 You say, I want to submit a FOIA request.

00:34:10.000 They say, what information are you seeking?

00:34:12.000 For example, District 214, where I went to high school, you say, I want teacher salaries and I want COVID cases.

00:34:19.000 I want COVID deaths and I want COVID hospitalizations for all students.

00:34:24.000 And they have by law 10 days to answer to you.

00:34:26.000 And they have a full-time person at District 214 that handles FOIA requests.

00:34:31.000 Guess what she usually says when we call?

00:34:33.000 Oh, yeah, we haven't really had anybody call recently.

00:34:36.000 It's amazing that if every person, if every person listening to this just use this simple FOIA law to your advantage, just ask more questions than you ever think would justify answers, but that would also make people think twice.

00:34:52.000 And when we did this for 214, we got the answers back.

00:34:56.000 They had zero hospitalizations of students, zero deaths of students, 25 confirmed cases, and they shut down all the schools in District 214.

00:35:05.000 And we got the salaries and they were $138,000 a year teacher salaries in the suburbs of Chicago.

00:35:11.000 Of course, we tried to publicize it.

00:35:12.000 The local media wanted nothing to do with it.

00:35:15.000 But that sort of pressure is really important and needed.

00:35:17.000 Tom, we're running out of time.

00:35:19.000 I want to ask you, what is your election prediction?

00:35:26.000 Oh, I think President Trump is going to win.

00:35:29.000 And In a dramatic fashion, not just barely.

00:35:36.000 I think he's going to win-win.

00:35:37.000 And I think it's possible the Republicans, I think it's a significant likelihood the Republicans take the House.

00:35:43.000 And I don't say that because I want it to happen as president of Judicial Watch.

00:35:46.000 It's just I'm playing political analyst here.

00:35:50.000 It seemed to me that the left, the violence associated with the left has just turned off too many voters. 0.80

00:35:57.000 And it's Hillary Clinton all over again with Biden corruption. 0.98

00:36:01.000 It's an ugly mess for Democrats.

00:36:03.000 And my advice to both political parties, Charlie, is you got a clean house.

00:36:09.000 You know, your values are always going to be compromised, and your policies will always be compromised by corrupt people in your midst in either political party.

00:36:18.000 It's usually the corruption that stops good things from happening in terms of policy.

00:36:23.000 And if Democrats want to be successful, they got to get this corruption out.

00:36:28.000 And, you know, in many ways, Trump was incorruptible coming in because he was outside the D.C.-Washington mix that has distracted so many Republicans from doing good things because they had pensions for taking care of their buddies as opposed to pursuing good policies as well.

00:36:45.000 And the president just doesn't seem to care about that as much because he's not a politician in the traditional sense of the word.

00:36:51.000 And if I'm not a Democrat, I'd be finding more, I'd be finding Trumpian figures in that regard to protect against the Biden-type Hillary corruption that has saddled them for, you know, since 1992.

00:37:05.000 I hope you're right.

00:37:06.000 Well, the book is A Republic Under Assault, Tom Fitton Judicial Watch.

00:37:10.000 Tom, thank you for joining the Charlie Kirk Show again.

00:37:12.000 And we'll talk after the election.

00:37:14.000 I hope you're right.

00:37:18.000 What a great episode that was with the great Tom Fitton.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 26, 2020

Exposing the Biden Crime Family with Tom Fitton

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