00:00:21.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:00:42.000We had a whole box of Good Ranchers beef and meat come to our office, and people have been cooking, they have been eating, and they really like it.
00:01:34.000Congressman, I want to thank you so much for joining us.
00:01:36.000And I second want to thank you for speaking out on this issue in the last week and a half.
00:01:42.000You've been one of the few members of Congress that has been speaking out about this raid in Germany, CITEL, the hammer and scorecard, all of it.
00:01:52.000I'm going to let you just begin, and you have the floor.
00:01:55.000Congressman, what is going on in this?
00:01:57.000What happened in this election and what are you trying to uncover?
00:02:00.000Well, if we got time, let me take you back to the election in Texas in both the primary March of 2018 and in the general election of 2018.
00:02:12.000There was a group, a private intelligence group, former intelligence people that were monitoring the election in Dallas County.
00:02:24.000And, you know, it's been some years back, but it was news that Soros and others were trying to get people in place who would do the counting in our elections.
00:02:36.000And I thought, well, that's a shame, but there are some places it may work.
00:02:41.000But here in Texas, our Secretary of State is in charge of all the election counting, and that's appointed by a Republican governor, so we're safe.
00:02:51.000I didn't think about the fact that our four biggest cities are controlled completely by Democrats.
00:02:58.000And unlike East Texas and West Texas, where the county clerk is expected to have her staff or his staff do all the counting, in the big counties, they will hire firms.
00:03:13.000One was hired, I think their base was in Toronto, Canada, to come in and do the counting for them.
00:03:49.000Well, yes, they have to be programmed some way, and they do have data go from certain parts of the county into an aggregating system, and most of them use CIIDL.
00:04:03.000The SCYTL was originally headquartered in 2018 in Barcelona, Spain.
00:04:10.000Gives you warm feelings that Spain can control how our elections come out.
00:04:53.000I said, they're going to try to do it in 2020.
00:04:56.000And by then, we also had the general election results, and there were actually votes changed.
00:05:05.000One of the things they could do, though, the early voting was put onto flash drives, and each early voting location had a flash drive with all the votes.
00:05:16.000They brought those in on Friday night after early voting stopped before the election on Tuesday.
00:05:22.000And then they had three days to play with them.
00:05:25.000And there were some changes made in the primary that were found and noted.
00:05:34.000I mean, they're using every tool at their disposal, whether it's the ballot harvesting, you know, there are just so many things, false votes, but illegal people, people illegally here voting.
00:05:48.000But in any event, the president said, this is a problem.
00:05:52.000And anyway, apparently there were plenty of people in the administration that shouldn't be there that were saying, we've got it.
00:06:59.000But, you know, the guy worked for Microsoft before he came to the government.
00:07:05.000So what could go wrong having a guy that was a Bill Gates loyalist working and securing our election since Bill Gates loves President Trump so much.
00:07:17.000In any event, that's who was supposed to be watching the hen house and all they were doing was preparing reports that said how safe we were.
00:07:26.000All the while, CIDL, on election day, all of that data from most of our election locations was going through, being aggregated.
00:07:38.000And as we found, as NBC had found, there are ways to hack in.
00:07:45.000They are connected at different times to the internet.
00:07:48.000And that's what we knew from the Texas election from two years ago.
00:07:53.000So I can't confirm or deny the raid or raids occurred.
00:07:59.000I just had gotten a report that Germany had, the people in Germany had reported about the raid.
00:08:07.000But what I knew was the day before, I had given information, supplied it to the White House, and said, look, here's what you need to be getting from CITL.
00:08:20.000And this will be able to determine what votes were changed, how widespread, how many thousands or millions.
00:08:31.000And by the way, another thing, Charlie, I've heard people say, you know, the president needs to give it up.
00:08:37.000He lost by about 5.4, 5.5 million votes.
00:08:42.000I mean, obviously he couldn't have won the election.
00:08:45.000You do a breakdown and you see that California, with all where they legalized so many illegal ways to vote, that's where he won by 5 million votes and then another million votes or so in New York.
00:09:03.000But you look at the other 48 states, President Trump won reelection.
00:09:10.000And when we're looking, and I've been around you so much and I know how your mind works, and that's why I love the way it works so well.
00:09:19.000Okay, what would be a fail-safe way to check to see if there are indications that the outcome is suspicious?
00:09:28.000Well, most everybody knew going in, if Republicans were going to avoid losing massive number of seats in the House, then President Trump was going to have to have extensive coattails to carry Republicans along.
00:09:47.000He would have to win so big that the sweep would help us not lose seats, much less gain any.
00:10:00.000So we're hoping that there would be enough coattails from Trump.
00:10:04.000People would turn out for him and we wouldn't lose seats.
00:10:08.000We picked up maybe a dozen or so seats.
00:10:12.000The only way we were going to be able to keep the majority in the Senate was going to be, again, if Trump turnout was so big that we didn't lose the majority.
00:10:25.000And the background on that, we picked up seats two years ago because the Democrats had nearly twice as many seats of theirs that were up for reelection.
00:10:37.000This time, we had a lot more Republican seats up.
00:10:41.000So this was the time for them to pick them up.
00:10:44.000Okay, so when you see we picked up a bunch of seats in the House and no incumbent lost their seat that was Republican, and we kept, it looks like we'll keep the majority in the Senate.
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00:12:23.000Our former guest talked about hammer and scorecard.
00:12:26.000Can you talk about any specifics around that?
00:12:34.000And I ask pointedly, intentionally, Congressman, because there are about 45 to 50 million people right now that are about to lose permanent trust in our Democratic systems.
00:12:44.000Well, I can't give any specifics on hammer and scorecard.
00:12:49.000Those are certainly issues, but we do have people doing deep dives, and we hope to know more soon.
00:13:00.000But with regard, going back to the reported raids in Germany of Seidel, by the way, they apparently gone through a bankruptcy.
00:13:14.000But I'd mentioned earlier that two years ago, their main headquarters was in Spain, Barcelona.
00:13:21.000Well, that apparently got moved main headquarters to a place called Frankfurt, Germany, you know, Germany, where Merkel was telling Trump the next day that he just needed to concede and get out of there.
00:13:34.000Yeah, because she doesn't want to pay what she agreed to pay to Germany's fair share to the UN, and she doesn't like Trump trying to hold their feet to the fire.
00:13:46.000Oh, and they want us back in the Paris Accord like everybody else because we're the ones, we're the only ones that are going to pay every other country in the world for all the damage China is doing to the environment.
00:14:01.000So they have a lot of reasons in Germany and in Spain.
00:14:08.000But what really bothered me is here I provide, I'd email this information on what specifically to look for, that what information we needed that was, I didn't come up with it.
00:14:24.000It was provided by some of our former Intel people.
00:14:29.000And then immediately after that, we hear that Seidel's server has been grabbed.
00:14:36.000And it's apparently, if it were, apparently it was not by direction of the president.
00:14:47.000So you wonder who's getting that and what's that all about.
00:14:51.000And there's still some ways that we can grab that information.
00:15:27.000And what we had seen in 2018 from the briefing that I got was that they used a couple of methods.
00:15:35.000One is just flipping Republican votes in a race or more races, but flipping Republican votes and making them Democrat votes just in the counting.
00:15:48.000And that creates some problems for the data, and that what makes a good analyst able to do a deep dive and see, wait a minute, these were changed, here's where they were changed, and that's what messed up the down ballot votes.
00:16:05.000And another thing is apparently they use what's called a multiplier.
00:16:11.000They can input a multiplier so that just hypothetically, or for example, every vote for Beijing Biden would end up being multiplied so that he was getting more than one vote.
00:16:29.000It would be multiplied by whatever they put in.
00:16:32.000Now, I've been told that in some of the deep diving going on now, there are actually fractions of a vote.
00:16:42.000And since the Democrats demanded that black votes only count as three-fifths of a vote back before the Civil War, we haven't been having fraction of a vote.
00:16:56.000But if you ever see that, it tells you there's been a multiplier that applied that fractionalized an outcome.
00:17:07.000And so if you had the undoctored sidel server, you should be able, or experts should be able to find votes that were changed.
00:17:20.000If they're there and they've not been erased, then you'll find those votes that were switched.
00:17:25.000You'll find what votes, what elections they were switched in.
00:17:31.000And in fact, I'd seen data on votes that were switched in 2018 in Dallas, Texas.
00:17:40.000But unfortunately, and I've been telling the president for a while, as long as Christopher Wray is heading up the FBI, this country's not safe and you're not safe.
00:17:51.000Christopher Writ took his admonition to clean up the FBI to mean that he needed to sweep everything under the rug.
00:17:59.000And that's what, in my humble opinion, he's been doing ever since he got there.
00:18:03.000We cannot move forward and the FBI can't get their reputation back as long as he's there.
00:18:09.000It's just, in my opinion, not honest at all in the Washington part.
00:18:15.000We got good, honest FBI agents around the country, but we got people that still are a problem for us keeping this self-government going.
00:18:24.000If I remember correctly, you were a judge in a past life.
00:18:30.000And so there's a lot is now going to be put on judges right now, federal judges and Supreme Court judges.
00:18:37.000Just looking at this realistically, what does the Trump campaign have to present?
00:18:43.000If you put your judge kind of robe on, what needs to be presented for a judge to maybe order a revote or something that would dramatically change the current trajectory?
00:18:55.000Take as much time as you'd like for our audience that really doesn't understand how the legal process works, what it would take for a judge to act that dramatically.
00:19:07.000There have been elections that have been overturned and new votes required.
00:19:14.000But in a case like this, and I've discussed this with some of the attorneys helping the president, and I'm also licensed and certified to practice before the U.S. Supreme Court.
00:19:25.000But as a member of Congress, I'm not authorized and I'm prohibited from practicing law.
00:19:32.000But It doesn't keep me from remembering as our highest level trial judge in Texas and then also on the Court of Appeals as Chief Justice back in Texas.
00:19:49.000You will have to come in, and everybody's heard about different types of fraud, whether it's dead people voting, which did occur, apparently 10,000 or so in Michigan.
00:20:03.000Even though we've been told, oh, well, they may have voted, but we would have culled those and not counted those.
00:20:23.000And we need to show that dead people voted.
00:20:26.000We need to show that some people voted for other people.
00:20:29.000We need to show that it's been reported in Pennsylvania that there were mail-in ballots that got voted and recorded before they ever could possibly have been returned.
00:20:46.000If we can get, and there ought to be, it ought to be retrievable by subpoena or warrant to get the data from CITL and other sources to show, and we need to do this, to show votes that were changed from here to here.
00:21:08.000Some people have seen the video of Matt Bevin's race last year in Kentucky for governor, where you just saw over 500 votes just flip from Republican to Democrat.
00:21:24.000Well, that kind of stuff was what I was shown had been happening in 2018 in Texas.
00:21:31.000They got the system down, so I feel like it should be retrievable once they get that data to show that.
00:21:42.000You have to be able to show that on an extensive enough basis that a judge would say, whoa, there's no question this affected the election.
00:21:56.000And when it gets to that scale, then the choices are you can order all of the improper votes to be struck if those can be shown.
00:22:11.000You could, and then a recount with the ones that were legitimate.
00:22:15.000You could order a complete redo of the election, but we don't have a lot of time for that.
00:22:21.000Or the court could order that these votes are in such a disastrous form, they cannot be certified as the election results from this state.
00:22:34.000Therefore, this state's Electoral College votes can't be certified, and they can't help either candidate get to 270.
00:22:45.000And if they're not enough for anybody to get to 270, Biden or President Trump, then it would be thrown to the House.
00:22:53.000And as you know, it's not the Democrat majority that would decide.
00:22:58.000Take one vote, and then we have more states with a majority Republican than Democrats.
00:23:07.000And since Mitt Romney is not in the House of Representatives, then we should be able to hold Republican states voting for the Republican candidate.
00:23:18.000So those are all possibilities, but it's got to be compelling enough.
00:23:24.000And another factor, too, and this is one of the things that bothered me so much about the FISA court being lied about.
00:23:34.000If you're a judge, you're going to be lied to time to time.
00:23:38.000But what really bothered me is the FISA courts didn't seem to be bothered that people came in and committed a fraud on their court.
00:23:49.000I found if you put one lawyer in jail one day, one time, the rest get the message and you don't have problems with lawyers not doing what they're supposed to or being honest about what's supposed to happen.
00:24:49.000Instead, they were putting up paper or posters where you couldn't see in.
00:24:54.000And that was, they were ordered to allow people to see.
00:24:59.000So if I'm a judge that issued that order, I've got my judge hat back on, my judge robe back on, and the evidence comes in that after I sent that order to make it transparent, allow everybody to see what was, and okay, you finally let them in, but you moved the counting back so far they still couldn't see.
00:25:22.000And I think Justice Alito and others have enough integrity, they would be deeply offended by people doing that.
00:25:30.000And there's a legal doctrine that if one side has access to evidence and evidence is either destroyed or can't be gathered, then a judge is allowed to take judicial notice or to order a jury that they can take notice that the evidence was available to this person, it's no longer to this party, and it's no longer available.
00:26:00.000And therefore, you can consider that that evidence proved their point was not valid.
00:26:08.000And it's one of the few times a judge can instruct a jury that you can take something that's not direct evidence.
00:26:16.000But if they've hidden evidence, they haven't followed an order, then the court could just say, you know what, I told you to make it transparent.
00:26:25.000So all the votes that you didn't allow to be transparent, they're not going to count because we can't trust them.
00:26:33.000And if you've intermingled, you didn't set the ones aside I told you to, every one of them, then we can't trust your account of the votes and it can't be certified.
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00:28:03.000And the little things that add up to this idea of, no, no, no, the judicial system works for us, silly little citizen.
00:28:09.000A court order, that's just an annoyance.
00:28:12.000And that's the significance of not actually going after every one of these people that have committed crimes, the small ones and the big ones.
00:28:20.000And then, Congressman, I want to ask a really quick question on this.
00:28:24.000How did Samuel Alito ordered for votes to be segregated?
00:28:33.000Because I was really confused by that.
00:28:36.000The way if you're trying to get a quick injunction and you can make a basis, show a basis for a court to act, the Supreme Court will put one judge on it and have them make a determination.
00:28:55.000And it also happens with courts of appeal as well.
00:28:59.000If it's an emergency, you have one judge on it, but then you can appeal to the full, the en banc, all of the judges together.
00:29:11.000And that's why sometimes you will see maybe a three-judge panel or one judge on a federal court of appeals that'll issue an order or a decision or a temporary ruling or even a final ruling.
00:29:25.000And then the party can say, we want to go have a hearing before the full panel and go from there.
00:29:34.000But emergencies, it's not uncommon to have one judge assigned to take that up.
00:29:40.000And if you're the litigant, you're really hoping it's a friendly judge because you got friends and you got enemies, said the Supreme Court.
00:29:48.000Not Sotamayor or Breyer or Kagan, that's for sure.
00:29:51.000So I'm glad Alito was wearing that role.
00:29:56.000I'm really impressed by Justice Alito and his devotion to wanting to follow the law.
00:30:02.000And just like you were pointing out, Charlie, unless there are consequences for absolute ignoring a court order, then of course that will continue.
00:30:14.000And I don't, we've got enough people on the Supreme Court now that do believe in the rule of law.
00:30:21.000And let me tell you, another thing that you're trained about as a judge is the fact that decisions, both criminal and civil, they can have, they need to have a deterrent effect to improper conduct.
00:30:37.000And so, like, for example, if you're deciding on an appropriate punishment, then you're supposed, by law, you're supposed to consider general deterrence.
00:30:48.000What will be a message in what I do here that is strong enough that others who are similarly tempted to do this kind of conduct will not want to do it?
00:31:00.000And then specific deterrence so that the people you are specifically dealing with will never want to do that again.
00:31:09.000And if you send a message like that to Seidel, to Dominion, ESNS, you will see them be much more careful about the back doors that are left open or things that are hooked to the internet.
00:31:25.000But this is very, very critical for our future.
00:31:28.000And for those Republicans or rhinos that say, look, the president needs to concede and we can come back and win more seats in the presidency in 2024.
00:31:40.000No, some of us have seen how they were learning this way of stealing an election in 2018.
00:31:49.000They got much, much better at it in 2020.
00:31:54.000And if this election is stolen, if the fraud is not corrected, and it could be that after you take out all the illegal voting and you take out the manipulation of the data, that Biden wins?
00:32:10.000Okay, he wins, and Trump would let him roll in.
00:32:13.000But I don't think that's where it's going once we get down to the real votes.
00:32:18.000So, Congressman, in addition to that, can you help me understand?
00:32:23.000Because you're talking about how a judge could step in, Supreme Court justice or otherwise, and could say, if you didn't follow my orders, these votes could be thrown out and it could go to the House and all of this.
00:32:34.000What you're saying is that despite what a lot of the establishment Republicans are saying, there's a lot of remedies for President Trump at this moment if this gets interpreted as a spoiled election in the eyes of a judge.
00:32:47.000And you've mentioned what it would take to get there, and it is a very high threshold.
00:32:52.000Do you think based on current claims by the very reputable Sidney Powell, she's confident that President Trump will serve a second term?
00:33:02.000She thinks that the Biden transition team is kind of a waste of time, is what she said today on television.
00:33:09.000There's a lot of people that are anxious and confused about this entire process and how it's all working.
00:33:17.000It's just, and what's really upsetting, Congressman, I was on an airplane a couple of days ago and people came up to me and they said, can we trust anything the government ever says again?
00:33:28.000And that's where we're getting to, where people are just going to say they're going to treat their government like it's a banana republic.
00:33:34.000I guess the question is, can you comment on what could realistically happen before the magical dates start appearing when the Electoral College gathers and we have to start really filing pre-inaugural paperwork?
00:33:51.000Because we do have to have the next leader of the free world by January 20th, unless the Supreme Court decides to come in on dramatic, dramatic action.
00:34:02.000Do you see that there could possibly be some bombshell revelations where the U.S. Supreme Court could step in here?
00:34:10.000Yeah, I believe some of us have seen enough fraud that the Supreme Court absolutely needs to step in.
00:34:22.000And it takes me back to the summer I was an exchange student to the Soviet Union, Charlie.
00:34:32.000I spent a lot of time with other college students.
00:35:55.000The first time that ever happened, John Quincy Adams in 1824 did not get a majority of the popular vote and he didn't have enough Electoral College vote, so it went to the House.
00:36:08.000And it created lots of trouble for him.
00:36:13.000Of course, then he ran for Congress, the unthinkable, after being president, and tried to work on eliminating slavery.
00:36:21.000But it would be cleaner if we could make sure that people's vote counted.
00:36:28.000You know, I know in my own district, the first time I ran, I was told by somebody that was a major Democrat that I pay a lady here for, it's usually around 1,500 votes.
00:36:45.000She'd go get people to sign on the absentee ballot request, and then she would get the absentee ballots.
00:36:53.000And I asked the clerk one time, does she really vote that many?
00:36:57.000She said, yeah, sometimes she votes them all in green ink so she can prove how many she voted because she gets paid for every vote.
00:37:05.000But in any event, there's always been cheating.
00:37:09.000You know, I was watching a vote back in the 90s, and Tom Brokaw told, I guess it was David Brinkley, tell him that story that Johnson told about when he ran years ago.
00:37:27.000He said, well, he said, you know, back then before Watergate, the press was friends with all of the presidents as they were president.
00:37:37.000And a lot of times the president would come down to the press room, sit at one of our desks and just sit around and talk.
00:37:43.000And he knew we could trust them not to print anything that was like that off the record.
00:37:48.000And one time, and it must have been 66, so we were watching some midterm reports of votes coming in.
00:37:57.000And Johnson, Lyndon Johnson, had his boots up on the desk and scratching his belly and drinking a beer.
00:38:04.000Yeah, I remember back when I was running, my campaign manager and I were out in the cemetery the night before the election.
00:38:13.000Of course, in Duval County, there were a lot of dead people that used to vote or vote in alphabetical order and those kind of things.
00:38:20.000But yeah, and we were writing down the name off each tombstone, and we came to one that had all this stuff on it.
00:38:30.000And my campaign manager said, come on, Lyndon, let's go to the next grave.
00:38:33.000And I grabbed his arm and I said, no, sir, this man has ever been as much right to vote as anybody else in the cemetery.
00:38:42.000And so, you know, and those of us in Texas that know our Texas history know that happened in Duval County.
00:38:49.000And then I think the courthouse burned when the investigators came to investigate.
00:38:54.000So the biggest, as John Fund has said before, that wrote a great book on fraud and elections, the biggest fraud about elections is the statement that there is no fraud in elections.
00:39:06.000There has always been people trying to cheat, and some have done so successfully.
00:39:11.000And by the way, I asked Monica Crowley that worked for Richard Nixon after he was president, I think helping with a book.
00:39:19.000And I said, well, I'd heard in 1960 that Nixon was told there may be enough fraud in Chicago that we could go to court and you'd have a shot at winning.
00:39:33.000And she said she had talked to him about it and that he said, yeah, he was told it was a good shot at overturning it, but he just felt like it would be too divisive for the country.
00:39:46.000And so, Charlie, you go back to the discussion earlier on deterrence.
00:39:51.000If there are no consequences for cheating, then it just gets worse and worse and worse until it builds to where we are now.
00:40:01.000And people don't have, you're going to have 70 million people that don't have confidence in this vote.
00:40:09.000So, Congressman, I want to take a question here from some of our listeners.
00:40:12.000We have tens of thousands watching, and I want to thank you for being so generous with your time.
00:40:18.000One question that we just keep on getting is: what can we do?
00:40:22.000Some of our supporters here at charliekirk.com/slash support, just one question here from Gary from Michigan.
00:40:49.000No, no, it's not just American history, it's in world history.
00:40:53.000I mean, this will be the biggest stone election in world history.
00:41:00.000Yes, it went on in the Soviet Union, but they didn't really have to steal a lot of votes.
00:41:06.000People were scared not to vote as they were told.
00:41:10.000And you ran, there were problems, obviously, in Venezuela and Cuba, any place you have socialism, you're going to have an all-powerful totalitarian government.
00:41:21.000But to your question, I know when I was a judge, we were not to be affected by the opinion of people.
00:41:37.000And sometimes I hated what the law was, and I would explain, I think this is the wrong outcome, but I'm not allowed to legislate from the bench.
00:41:49.000You'll have to go to Austin to get the law changed or Washington to get the law changed.
00:41:56.000So, I'm going to have to follow the law.
00:42:22.000They are definitely swayed by popular opinion.
00:42:29.000And I think Chief Justice Roberts is one of those.
00:42:34.000In fact, my understanding was that on Obamacare decision, he was really that he was planning on voting that it was unconstitutional.
00:42:49.000And I was told that information was coming into the court from back channel stuff with sources, which it's not supposed to, But from the White House saying, you know, you guys need to understand if you declare the Affordable Care Act, we'll misnomer, you declare the Affordable Care Act unconstitutional,
00:43:52.000He became the most political Chief Justice since the Dred Scott decision.
00:43:57.000But Justice Galia told me one time, and I don't know if you were following Supreme Court decisions back when the Kilo decision came out from New Hampshire, I believe it was New Hampshire.
00:44:14.000But it was a case where the city decided to use their power of eminent domain to take somebody's private property, not for a civic or city reason, but because they wanted to give it to a developer who was supposed to divide it and make it more valuable, and then they would receive a lot more property tax from all that money.
00:44:48.000But nobody had raised a fuss when cities across America had used their power to condemn property to take it for a government purpose and then handed it over to some rich developer that was building a sports stadium.
00:45:07.000You know, well, if you're going to follow the law on eminent domain, you don't give it to a private person that's going to have a private stadium.
00:45:17.000Sure, if it's going to be like Green Bay, that's legitimate, the city's going to own it.
00:45:23.000But nobody raised a fuss ever about those.
00:45:27.000Justice Galia said, nobody raised a word.
00:45:31.000So he said he had never seen the Supreme Court justices more shocked at the outrage of the public when a majority of the Supreme Court said, yeah, you can use condemnation, imminent domain, and take land away if you think somebody else will pay more taxes on it.
00:45:52.000Well, people were outraged, but they said, well, if somebody, you know, had raised cane about the sports stadiums, then they probably would never have gotten to that bad decision.
00:46:29.000And I'd also heard back Roe versus Wade that since the majority of the justices went to these cocktail parties all around the world that said, well, of course a woman ought to be able to kill their baby.
00:46:43.000They had not heard people on the other side.
00:46:46.000And so all of that, long story to say, it makes a difference when people go out to the streets, as they did in Egypt in 2013.
00:47:01.000A third of the population went to the streets all over Egypt and said, we don't want the Muslim Brotherhood, the radical Islamist.
00:47:37.000You had Bill Ayres and those kind of people thinking that terrorism and blowing things up or people dying, that was the way to go.
00:47:44.000It didn't accomplish anything until they went in and took over, as you know and you talk about, as professors and started misinforming students.
00:47:55.000But it is critical that people make their voices heard, have rallies like people did before the election for Trump.
00:48:04.000Have rallies to say, you should not steal this election.
00:48:09.000We need fair elections because there was a great quote.
00:48:15.000And I know the Republicans, many of them are saying, oh, no, we'll have another chance down the road.
00:48:22.000But there was a great quote from Churchill, and I can't find it now.
00:48:30.000But basically, if you won't fight when success is virtually assured, then you will come to the place where you are going to lose, but fighting is better than dying as a slave.
00:48:52.000But once an election is stolen and they have total control of the intelligence, total control of the FBI, total control of all of the government, they're not going to be any more Republicans and they'll start stealing the elections all the way down to City Hall and the local courthouse.
00:49:16.000And we're already moving farther towards socialism than I could ever have imagined.
00:49:24.000And you're going to see Christians and Jews persecuted like never before.
00:49:40.000You can go out to a casino or to liquor store.
00:49:43.000That's fine, but not to a church, for heaven's sake.
00:49:46.000I mean, we're already seeing that kind of discrimination being brought to the bear, and it's got to be stopped.
00:49:52.000And the way to do it is get this election corrected.
00:49:56.000Let's get all the votes that are legal votes.
00:49:59.000And if the fraud is so bad and the disobedience of court orders and of the law is so bad, we can't figure out which votes are legitimate, then you go to, you can't, you cannot certify those election results.
00:50:18.000So we either have a do-over election or you just, we don't certify them and it throws it to the House.
00:50:26.000We have a runoff in Georgia on January 5th.
00:50:29.000Why can't we have a runoff in four or five other states that can't certify their election results and do it the right way?
00:50:38.000And by the way, remember one year ago, it was Democrats that were calling for a revote in North Carolina in that race because of all the voter fraud.
00:50:48.000And they got what they asked for because the House of Representatives wouldn't seat.
00:51:38.000This will determine whether we will continue to be a self-governing republic or if we will become a socialist state.
00:51:48.000Now, being a Christian, I feel strongly about what Dostoevsky said, and I think he is completely right.
00:51:57.000Yes, there are a lot of economic problems with socialism, but he said the problem with socialism is not economic.
00:52:04.000The problem with socialism is atheism.
00:52:08.000The government becomes God, and it has to attack anything that may take away from the government being godlike.
00:52:17.000But here's Churchill's quote, and this is what I would send out to all those Republicans that say, it's not worth the fight.
00:52:25.000Look, we're never going to have another Republican president.
00:52:28.000So if you're thinking, if I just get Trump out of the way, then I can win in 2024, forget that.
00:52:37.000They will have perfected theft in such a way by 2024, Republicans aren't going to be winning again.
00:52:46.000Churchill said, if you will not fight for right, when you can easily win and without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly, which is what I would say where we are here, you may come to the moment when you have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival.
00:53:12.000You may have to fight when there's no hope of victory because it's better to perish than to live as slaves.
00:53:19.000And I think we're at that point where this is not terribly costly.
00:53:24.000They're going to call you crazy and stupid the way I get called all the time.
00:53:30.000And, you know, I did quite well on national testing, so I'm very secure in who I am, what I am.
00:53:37.000And my skin was thick enough when I got COVID back this summer, and I got wonderful sweet messages from all over the country, but I got a bunch of just die in effort.
00:53:54.000But you've got to get your skin thicker and just go, this is for future generations to be able to have freedom to say what they want, to believe as they feel led.
00:54:10.000And, you know, our Second Amendment, forget that.
00:54:44.000But this is worth fighting for at a time when we have a chance to win.
00:54:52.000And if we don't, I'm telling you, Charlie, future generations, maybe not you as much and people younger than you, but for a number of our generations, they will curse our names for generations to come because we had it so easy and we could have fought and could have saved self-government, but just decided we didn't want to be name-called or have Antifa target us.
00:55:52.000Make sure you're a member of Congress, your senators, even if they're different parties, they need to have this outpouring of email, of letters, of calls saying, this is being stolen.
00:56:06.000You have destroyed my vote with fraud.
00:56:25.000Now, I've had a premonition since I first ran that someday I might end up having to take a stand that would cost me the way Sam Houston did when he stood up against seceding from the union and slavery.
00:56:41.000And very few people came to his funeral.
00:57:09.000But what I found back when I was a judge, and I was told by every judge I knew, if you handle that case, you'll never get elected to anything.