00:00:12.000And I mentioned in this episode something that President Trump could have done differently and a mistake I think he made in the speech, but not one that we believe is impeachable.
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00:00:47.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:55.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:09.000Pursuing truth is a huge part of who I am and what I stand for.
00:01:12.000When you look around at what's happening to our country, you can see why many people are experiencing real frustration with the news media, along with feelings of uncertainty and a lack of hope for the future.
00:01:21.000How can we know which is true and where or in whom we can place our trust?
00:01:24.000The only place I've found unwavering truth and peace is my faith in Jesus Christ.
00:01:29.000If 2020 has beaten down your spirit, I'd like to recommend a book called Reflections on the Existence of God by best-selling author Richard Simmons III.
00:01:37.000Reflections on the Existence of God is a collection of short essays that tackles the biggest questions of all.
00:02:37.000And I read, quote, yesterday, dozens of senators and congressmen walked down our lines, taking photos, shaking our hands, and thanking us for our service.
00:02:46.000Within 24 hours, they had no further use for us and banished us to the corner of a parking garage.
00:03:03.000And Tom Cotton also followed with condemnation.
00:03:06.000The question is, how did this happen in the first place?
00:03:09.000And also, we are not going to do what the media would do if Donald Trump was president.
00:03:15.000But let's just pretend that Donald Trump was president and this happened.
00:03:18.000If Donald Trump was president and there were thousands of National Guardsmen in a parking garage, this would be not just the number one story.
00:03:28.000There would be massive repudiation and condemnation from every single news outlet.
00:03:34.000And Donald Trump would have been forced to comment on this already.
00:03:37.000To date right now, President Biden has not commented, to the best of my knowledge, on what has happened with these National Guard members that have been put in the parking garage.
00:03:49.000Congressman Madison Cawthorne, a friend of the show and a friend of mine, visited the National Guard members last evening.
00:03:57.000And that video has over 1 million views on Twitter.
00:04:00.000And so the question should just first and foremost be, why are they still in Washington, D.C.?
00:04:05.000If you do not have the facilities, if you do not have the places for them to sleep, to house them, and there is not a clear and present threat in Washington, D.C., why are these people exactly here?
00:04:18.0005,000 troops in one Senate garage with two stalls for a bathroom and one electrical outlet.
00:04:29.000I'd love to see how they decided who got that one electrical outlet.
00:04:34.000There are still over 20,000 troops in Washington, D.C. Why?
00:04:40.000Well, the answer they say is because of what happened on January the 6th.
00:04:48.000Compensating to this over-the-top degree does not change what happened on January the 6th.
00:04:57.000I understand maybe having 5,000, 6,000 total troops and positioning them, but the overwhelming show of force seems somewhat political.
00:05:09.000In fact, governors are now beginning to recall their troops, Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida and Governor Sununu from New Hampshire.
00:05:17.000And by the way, this is all in the midst of a pandemic.
00:05:22.000While we're not supposed to be close to each other, 5,000 troops were on top of each other in a Senate garage, no social distancing, no cell service, just kind of banished to the outskirts of the Capitol.
00:05:39.000One National Guards member says, quote, and I'm reading, yesterday, dozens of senators and congresspeople walked down our lines, taking photos and shaking our hands and thanking us for our service.
00:05:49.000Within 24 hours, they had no further use for us and banished us to the corner of a parking garage.
00:05:57.000Now, Democrats and the media are a little confused right now.
00:06:01.000They're short-circuiting because the muscle memory that they've developed over the last four years all of a sudden won't work.
00:06:10.000I can guarantee you that some of these reporters immediately, without even thinking about it, typed in White House press secretary request for comment, and they realized, oh, we don't do that anymore.
00:06:22.000I guarantee you some reporters were about to call one of their sources inside the White House and they're like, oh, never mind.
00:06:29.000You know what's so amazing about this political article?
00:06:32.000Nowhere, according to, and I've just did a quick glance of it, does it say that the White House or President Biden were asked to comment on this story?
00:06:41.000Could you imagine if thousands of National Guard troops just a week ago were in the United States Senate parking garage?
00:07:48.000And so the takeaway from this specific story, and by the way, it was only largely broken and it went viral thanks to Benny Johnson from Turning Point USA and Congressman Madison Cawthorne going down.
00:08:00.000And then lawmakers on both sides realized that there was some disgust here.
00:08:04.000But Isabel, who's actually in charge of these troops?
00:08:06.000Who's their commanding officer, if that's the correct term?
00:08:09.000Well, Charlie, we were speaking before the show, just asking one another, how did this happen?
00:08:13.000This doesn't make any sense to us how 5,000 people could be banished to the corner of a parking garage, no social distancing, which is of concern to many of these individuals.
00:08:23.000One bathroom, no access to electrical outlets, in freezing temperatures, mind you.
00:08:28.000This is the middle of winter, many of which were almost hit by cars.
00:08:31.000People were saying, I've never been treated like this during all of my time in the service.
00:08:36.000I just can't believe that I feel like I've been booted to the curb and told, figure it out on your own.
00:08:58.000And I guess this person, Janine Burkhead, the Guard's inauguration task force commander, confirmed in a statement shortly after midnight that the troops were out of the garage and back into the Capitol building as authorized by the Capitol Police Watch commander.
00:09:13.000Capitol Police spokesperson Eva Malecki said the department recently asked that troops' shifts be reduced to 12 hours to eight.
00:09:21.000These are not, these are National Guard members of the states, which is a difference than if you called in the Marines or you called them the 101st Airborne.
00:09:29.000That's not to say that they're not people that are also serving the military that are also National Guards members, but there's a distinction there that's really, really important, that these are deployed by the states in times of emergency or in times to try to quell public unrest.
00:09:43.000And the way that this story kind of unfolded is a lesson for all of us.
00:09:49.000And it shows that Biden will be given credit for everything and blamed for nothing.
00:09:55.000And we're seeing that in a variety of different stories.
00:09:57.000What if I told you that in just the last couple days, the Chinese coronavirus pandemic has turned the corner?
00:10:06.000I want to read a couple headlines from you.
00:10:09.000On January 19th, NPR, where your tax dollars are going, National Public Radio says, quote, as death rate accelerates, United States records 400,000 lives lost to the Chinese coronavirus.
00:10:24.000Yesterday, on the 21st of January, quote, current deadly United States coronavirus surge has peaked, researchers say.
00:10:32.000Within two days, we go from death rate accelerating to death rate plateauing.
00:10:41.000I'm waiting to independently confirm this because I have one of our team members of the Charlie Kirk show watching CNN because he, I guess he really decided he wanted some punishment today to see whether or not I don't think their ticker symbol of the Chinese coronavirus numbers are on anymore, are they, Connor?
00:11:16.000According to reports, and we will verify this, they've taken off the ticker symbol as well.
00:11:21.000You are seeing specific and deliberate moves by the people in power to try and all of a sudden create a narrative under now President Biden that the virus is tapering.
00:11:36.000And he will deserve credit for anything positive that happens, but anything negative, not so fast.
00:11:43.000Senator Chuck Schumer has come out and said that he is going to move forward with the impeachment proceedings, and that's going to start on Monday.
00:11:50.000Nothing says uniting the country like impeaching a guy who's golfing at Trump International Golf Course in Florida.
00:11:57.000Okay, so the Senate has now said they are going to proceed with articles of impeachment.
00:12:07.000Senator Chuck Schumer has come out and has said that starting Monday, there will be new articles of impeachment against the former president of the United States, not the president of the United States, the former president of the United States.
00:12:19.000Now, there are arguments in the legal community that this is not even constitutional.
00:12:24.000That can you impeach someone who is removed from office?
00:12:28.000There are competing opinions on this, and it remains to be seen.
00:12:33.000Remember, constitutional provisions do not bother Democrats.
00:12:39.000They are going to proceed no matter what.
00:13:31.000And there's actually, this is probably a different conversation for a different time, but former Senator Perdue, I think if he would have even contested the election results the first time against John Ossif, I think he would have gotten over the 50% threshold and the Democrats would not have control of the United States Senate.
00:13:49.000Okay, however, the Democrats are now proceeding with impeachment at full speed.
00:13:56.000And at the crux of this impeachment is whether or not Donald Trump incited the activities on January the 6th.
00:14:07.000Now, the first impeachment was a drive-by impeachment.
00:14:13.000There's only been four impeachments out of the House of Representatives in American history: Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Donald Trump.
00:14:22.000And that just kind of goes to show not that Donald Trump is the worst president ever, the hyper-partisan political nature that we live in, that the Democrats will immediately, instantaneously reach for the most severe nuclear option imaginable.
00:14:41.000And if we are serious about kind of trying to add context or clarity to what they're doing, then we need to take a step back and say, if the Democrats had a step beyond impeachment, would they use it?
00:15:50.000So it took about 85 years, more or less, from the founding of our country for the first impeachment to proceed.
00:15:57.000And the Andrew Johnson impeachment was just basically about cabinet appointments, if I remember correctly.
00:16:03.000It was something about someone got appointed to something and they held him in contempt and impeachment was used against him, but he was acquitted in the Senate trial, if I'm not mistaken.
00:16:12.000So my memory could be not serving me on that.
00:16:15.000And then Bill Clinton was obviously lying under oath, Whitewater investigation, special prosecutor Ken Starr, who successfully moved impeachment through the House of Representatives and the Senate acquitted him because he did lie under oath.
00:16:30.000And so then President Trump's first impeachment, ridiculous, we have to even go over this, was the Ukrainian phone call, not the Mueller report, nothing to do with Russia, one phone call.
00:16:42.000We know way too much about all of that cast of characters, Volcker and all these guys, and Shmerich Shimarela, who just interestingly disappeared.
00:16:51.000He'll probably become director of national intelligence by the end of this term.
00:16:56.000All of it leads to us to this impeachment.
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00:18:26.000So what they really mean is they want Trump gone forever, never be able to run again, and to punish him indefinitely and forever.
00:18:34.000The article says, quote, and this is from CNN Politics by Michael Warren and Jamie Gangle.
00:18:41.000Quote, as the House prepares to send articles of impeachment to the Senate on Monday, CNN has learned that dozens of influential Republicans around Washington, including former top Trump administration officials, have been quietly lobbying GOP members of Congress to impeach and convict Donald Trump.
00:18:56.000The effort is not coordinated, but reflects a wider battle inside the Republican Party to those loyal to Trump and those who want to sever ties and ensure he can never run for president again.
00:19:07.000But at the core of all of this, the real question will be, when it comes to the Senate impeachment, will they actually decide to impeach and convict based on their pent-up hatred and fear of Donald Trump, or actually the merits of what the complaint is?
00:19:27.000Those are two completely different things.
00:19:29.000You see, when we had the drive-by impeachment brought to you on the Republican side by Liz Cheney and her nine Republicans, you see, Liz Cheney thought that she was going to be leading many dozen, maybe even a hundred people into a kind of revolution against Donald Trump.
00:19:46.000And she was kind of standing there all alone.
00:19:48.000And the front page of Politico right now at politico.com says Republicans who impeach Trump are already on the chopping block.
00:19:56.000Quote, candidates, donors, and local party officials are organizing against the 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump.
00:20:04.000It's kind of contradictory to the CNN article.
00:20:06.000I wonder whose sources are better, Politico or CNN.
00:20:09.000I'm sure that there's some truth to both stories, but we know, because we're actually in the conservative base, that there is no appetite.
00:20:16.000In fact, there is no tolerance for anyone right now that will proceed with the conviction and the impeachment of Donald Trump.
00:20:24.000And you're going to see a lot of people that are going to try to kind of split the middle.
00:20:28.000There are going to be people that say Donald Trump did not act properly at the rally.
00:20:32.000You're going to have people that say Donald Trump shouldn't have spoken and all this, but impeachment shouldn't be used for such a measure.
00:20:44.000It's either yes to convict or no to convict or yes present.
00:20:47.000That's present is basically the same as not voting.
00:20:50.000And so, but Isabel, what did the founders actually intend when it came to impeachment?
00:20:55.000Impeachment was a very questionable subject for many of the founders because they were worried about too much influence from Congress to control the presidency and the executive branch of government.
00:21:07.000Neil Kinkoff is an essayist that really talks about the Constitution and the history of what the founders intended with this very specific process, specifically relating to this language of high crimes and misdemeanors.
00:21:19.000And that's really where the bulk of debate on whether or not someone should be impeached remains today in the American political system.
00:21:26.000He writes, the framers meant for the phrase high crimes and misdemeanors to signify only conduct that seriously harms the public and seriously compromises the officers' ability to continue.
00:21:36.000If the phrase is given a less rigorous interpretation, which arguably we're seeing a lot of today, it could allow Congress to influence and control the president and the courts, which was exactly what the framers were worried about when drafting the language in the Constitution.
00:21:50.000And it was never supposed to be just a vote of no confidence.
00:21:54.000It was never supposed to be used as frequently as twice in one calendar year.
00:21:59.000This would be the second impeachment in one calendar year.
00:22:03.000So there's a lot I want to unpack with this impeachment, but let me start here before we get into the merits of the case and some of the specifics.
00:22:10.000Why has President Joe Biden said to cut this out?
00:22:30.000It, I guess, it appeals to our ideals of trying to live cohesively.
00:22:36.000You want to unite the country as the president of the United States, not the president of the Democrat Party, two completely different things, then you, as president, should use your political clout.
00:22:46.000And this is what Joe Biden should say.
00:23:02.000And instead, use your time and attention to pass my COVID relief package.
00:23:06.000Now, his COVID relief package is garbage, but at least that's what civil government is supposed to be, right?
00:23:17.000I would respect it because all of a sudden you'd say, let's end this whole chapter of we need to purge who came before me at every means necessary.
00:23:27.000The fact Joe Biden has not done this shows that he is now responsible for the division, for the acrimony, for the chaos that will ensue.
00:23:39.000And when I mean chaos, I mean political chaos.
00:23:43.000And anyone who decides to act improperly as a response to this, you know, we don't support any of that stuff.
00:23:50.000We denounce it completely and categorically.
00:23:53.000However, people are going to get very upset if they see their leaders as their first priority after they're sworn in.
00:24:03.000Their first legislative focus is: let's go impeach the guy who's eating meatloaf at his private club in Palm Beach.
00:24:14.000Like, that's really the focus legislatively.
00:25:28.000And Joe Biden, as being president, is afraid that Congress is going to be calling the shots and Senator Harris or Vice President Harris is going to be calling the shots and not him.
00:25:40.000And if he wants to bring the country together, he could do something that is magnanimous and it would take courage and it would stand up to people both now, according to CNN, Republicans and Democrats, that now want to put us through this show trial circus.
00:25:57.000The verdict may hinge on due process concerns.
00:26:00.000Quote, during last week's impeachment, House Democrats did not allow Trump's lawyers to present evidence on his behalf or give him a shot to rebut the charges against him.
00:26:11.000Sure, you can call this a red herring, and Democrats no doubt will.
00:26:16.000But traditionally, impeachments have allowed for this sort of rebuttal.
00:26:19.000And the lack of that opportunity for Trump is clearly causing some issues for the Republican Party.
00:26:23.000That's why McConnell laid down a marker on Thursday, good, saying that he believes Trump, no matter how guilty people think he may be, deserves time to prepare and have his case heard.
00:26:33.000Remember, some Democrats have discussed a three-day trial, a three-day trial, three days.
00:26:41.000And like that, he has to get together his defense, witnesses, due process.
00:26:48.000Sources tell us that Pelosi, in addition to Biden's team, have privately made clear they want this done fast, though they're leaving it to Schumann to negotiate.
00:26:56.000So still do it, but we'll unify the country after we impeach the guy before us, demoralize all the Trump supporters and say you're never going to be in power again.
00:28:00.000The British system might actually be a little bit better than ours because they really take impartial judges seriously there, like super seriously.
00:28:08.000And I've talked, I have a lot of friends in London, and when I visited there a couple years ago, they said, I've lived in America, I've lived in the United Kingdom.
00:28:16.000Even America is better at almost everything, but you really get a fair shake in the United Kingdom when you get in front of a judge.
00:28:23.000And of course, our system of common law is based from the British system.
00:28:29.000And the system is based in a couple very simple ideas.
00:28:35.000That the state has the burden to prove why your freedom should get restricted, why you should be imprisoned, why you should be indicted, so on and so forth.
00:28:45.000That you have the presumption that you didn't do anything wrong, the presumption of innocence.
00:28:51.000That you, as a citizen, are given the not just the burden, but the opportunity to then have counsel representation so you do not have to advocate for yourself.
00:29:10.000So it's not in the third world where you have to go in front of a judge and explain your own case.
00:29:14.000You can have someone who is bound by the law to negotiate for you, meaning that they cannot argue against you.
00:29:24.000And so the United States Senate is supposed to be a reflection of that system.
00:29:29.000The United States Senate is supposed to not all of a sudden embrace some form of a 1960s Soviet show trial where if you're not in the right party and we didn't like what you did or tweeted or said, we're going to get rid of you.
00:29:43.000And the Constitution actually articulates rights to due process, Fourth Amendment rights, representation of counsel, freedom of speech rights, all of these sorts of different things.
00:29:55.000The question is, will the United States Senate decide to follow the U.S. Constitution or go through what is nothing more than kabuki feeder, going through something that is completely and totally fake, a baseless and sham impeachment.
00:30:16.000The Senate is now beating the drums of impeachment.
00:30:20.000The indications are they want to get this done over, signed, sealed, and delivered in three days or less.
00:30:27.000There are traffic court disputes that take more than three days.
00:30:31.000We're talking about impeaching a former president of the United States that I'm not exactly sure how this works.
00:30:39.000I think the Supreme Court's going to review this, don't you, Isabel?
00:30:41.000I think they absolutely should, Charlie.
00:30:42.000There's a massive question pending before the American people here on whether or not it's even constitutionally protected to impeach and convict someone who's not currently in office.
00:30:53.000They say civil officer, is that right?
00:30:55.000Yeah, civil officer is the language used on whether or not someone can be impeached.
00:30:58.000If you are a civil officer, you're eligible to be impeached.
00:31:01.000But the legal definition for that word is so important.
00:31:04.000It's any person who is appointed by the government and who holds current, present tense executive, legislative, or judicial authority.
00:31:19.000However, the impeachment going only for three days with who knows what kind of due process and cross-examination of witnesses will be allowed.
00:31:31.000We do not know who Trump's legal team will be.
00:31:33.000My guess is that Alan Dershowitz will rejoin and he will receive even.
00:31:38.000I think Alan Dershowitz just loves the fight.
00:31:40.000He's a free speech guy, and I have a lot of respect for him in a lot of different ways.
00:31:44.000My guess is he'll rejoin to defend the president against the idea of impeaching a president, not necessarily defending the president on the merits of the case, but just kind of indicting the idea, for lack of a term, indicting, the idea of impeachment.
00:31:59.000I want to go through what their accusations will be.
00:32:03.000And I want to go through kind of our own, you know, kind of pasted together response, if you will, of the defense of what can or what will President Trump do, former President Trump do, to defend himself against this?
00:32:24.000Because the crux of the entire impeachment is that Donald Trump gave specific and total marching orders, and those marching orders were acted upon, and therefore he is guilty of incitement.
00:32:38.000We find it to be a lot more complicated than that.
00:32:40.000And I think we have been unpacking the specifics of what happened on January the 6th.
00:32:45.000And even if you hate Donald Trump and you're listening to this and you're like, I'm sick of it.
00:32:52.000Do not use ultimate power and authority to implement your own personal bias and prejudice when the merits of the case are not there.
00:33:01.000That is not what a justice system is for.
00:33:03.000That is not what an impeachment process is for.
00:33:06.000We are now, we are already seeing the widespread abuse, the blurring of the lines, and the breaking down of traditional constitutional norms with two impeachments in one year constituting 50% of all the impeachment ever had in the history of our beautiful country.
00:33:24.000That, by the way, were promised before this individual was even sworn into office.
00:33:28.000On January 20th, 2017, they told us they were going to impeach him.
00:33:30.000The day he got sworn in, an hour after the case against impeaching Trump has already begun.
00:33:36.000And even if you hate Trump, and even if you're watching this, and there's a lot of people that are mixed on this, that listen to us, and thank you for listening.
00:33:43.000You should say, I refuse to allow a political deletion campaign to succeed using the highest constitutional measure of a check and balance given to us by the founding fathers and the framers for someone who is not even currently occupying the White House that he can never run again because I'm either afraid that he's going to run again or I think he's annoying or whatever it is.
00:34:11.000Be very careful using that metaphorical loaded gun on the table because that sort of power against a political opponent you don't like could be again used against someone you might like in the future.
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00:36:01.000Trump is about to be on trial, a Senate trial.
00:36:04.000Now, will this trial around his impeachment is it constitutional?
00:36:09.000We've explored this and we don't know.
00:36:11.000It's supposed to be in the United States Constitution current office holders that have current power, not former office holders.
00:36:18.000Now, there's an argument to be made, though, that I'm sure they'll make that they impeached him while he was in office, and now therefore they're completing the task of what he was in office.
00:36:31.000But let's pretend that it's constitutional and it's proceeding.
00:36:35.000The kind of baseline of the Democrat argument is the following: that there was an event in Washington, D.C. Donald Trump spoke to that event.
00:36:47.000Based on his remarks, the people at that event then stormed the Capitol, committed acts of domestic terrorism, insurrection, and other types of crimes.
00:37:00.000Now, more so than any other program, I believe we have factually gone through the footage and gone through exactly what we believe based on all publicly available information.
00:37:09.000What the heck actually happened on January the 6th?
00:37:12.000Now, some of you might be exhausted hearing about this.
00:37:16.000Well, buckle up for at least another week because you're about to see whether or not your Constitution still exists or not based on the facts of this case.
00:37:27.000And so the information surrounding what happened on January the 6th, what President Trump said, what he didn't say, what he said correctly, what he said incorrectly, is incredibly important.
00:37:39.000And we're going to shoot it to you guys straight here.
00:37:41.000We're going to tell you what Donald Trump did correctly at that speech.
00:37:44.000We're going to tell you something that I don't think he should have said and an impression that he gave to the people there that I think was a very big mistake.
00:37:51.000We're going to go through all of that.
00:37:53.000Now, does that mean that he should be impeached as a former office holder for it?
00:37:59.000So let's start with the one piece of information here.
00:38:01.000Let me read to you from the Washington Post here.
00:38:04.000I want to make sure I read this specifically in a second once I find it.
00:38:08.000That this looks more and more like a pre-planned operation alongside some people that got very caught up in the moment.
00:38:19.000There is an individual that was arrested a couple days ago on the first charge of conspiracy.
00:38:26.000It's a very high threshold to be indicted on conspiracy.
00:38:29.000He was part of the group of people that you saw the clip of on our program that were walking up the Capitol steps in full tactical military gear, holding each other's back, like kind of holding each other's neck collar, kind of being able to hold going towards the conflict.
00:38:46.000And he has now been arrested on conspiracy.
00:38:49.000So let's just go through the first and foremost facts of the case.
00:39:46.000Backpacks are not allowed into any event that requires Secret Service security.
00:39:51.000It's just not even within the realm of possibility.
00:39:53.000So the most likely explanation for why there's backpacks there is that those individuals were not present at the ellipse to hear the president speak.
00:40:00.000And we have no evidence to believe that they were.
00:40:02.000Now, that's not to say everyone around them was not necessarily at the ellipse.
00:40:05.000That's not to say that everyone around them might have also been at the ellipse.
00:40:08.000However, we are all of a sudden adding a piece of information that is a little bit contrary to this overarching Democrat narrative, which is that there were people there that were in Washington, D.C. for the sole purpose of creating chaos, chaos, takeover.
00:40:28.000And prison time sounds like an appropriate measure for people that seek out our nation's capital for that intended purpose.
00:40:37.000There's a timeline from the New York Times that's super helpful where they even admit some of the kind of tussle with the law enforcement began before the president's remarks even concluded.
00:40:48.000In fact, according to Vice, The Atlantic, New York Times, and Washington Post, not exactly conservative outlets, right?
00:40:57.000Crowds were gathering on the east side of the Capitol building well before the president even took the stage.
00:41:18.000This is a journalist who begins to prove the point that we're making, which is there's more to the story where he says people were leaving the rally before the president was even done speaking.
00:42:26.000We're going to get into his remarks in a second.
00:42:28.000What we are doing, though, and neither of us are defense lawyers, but we're going through this just using logical reasoning and facts, starting to contribute some other information to the narrative.
00:42:37.000If you see in this image here, as it starts to get pulled up, you can see one of these gentlemen was just arrested on conspiracy.
00:42:46.000The guy on the left who's screaming, who seems very excited with the walkie-talkie.
00:42:53.000Okay, so here's just kind of MAGA rally 101 and take it from a guy who has planned these, attended these, and kind of knows a little bit about these, okay?
00:43:04.000You don't dress like this when you go to a MAGA rally.
00:43:06.000Now, what do you notice about this, Isabel?
00:43:09.000They're on the east side of the side, which is really hard to get to from the ellipse.
00:43:14.000So, all of these guys, almost all of them, and some of them are doing symbols with their hands that would go to show us that let's just say that's those signs have been, I think, categorized by you don't do those signs at a Trump rally.
00:43:32.000I don't have to get into that many more.
00:43:35.000If you're wearing an orange hat like one of these gentlemen, and I don't know if he committed a crime that day, or maybe he just felt like dressing up like a commando.
00:43:56.000If you would go through that through a MAG at a secret service, they'd say, why are you dressed like that, sir?
00:44:02.000In fact, they'd probably pull you aside.
00:44:03.000In fact, they'd pull you aside and start asking you questions.
00:44:06.000And so, just using general logic, these people on the east side of the Capitol, which is super important, which is disconnected from the ellipse in a lot of different ways, they were there to cause trouble.
00:44:17.000They were there to either seek out trouble, be instigators, whatever you might call it.
00:44:22.000And some of them have been arrested just for that.
00:44:24.000The other thing is this, as this image is up, why the walkie-talkie?
00:44:49.000And so, the Trump speech is on the left.
00:44:51.000That is the west side of Washington, D.C.
00:44:53.000Well, not West, but West for our own purposes here.
00:44:57.000That is where the president gave a speech right near the White House.
00:45:00.000Two miles away, you have the United States Capitol building, where you see on the right side of your image, you see three different arrows showing it with people marched and walked.
00:45:11.000On the right side of the Capitol, it's cut off a little bit, but it says supporters already at the Capitol.
00:45:17.000That was where we had the picture of the walkie-talkie man and the orange hat people that were there for, they weren't there to hear the president, they were there for something else.
00:45:26.000And they were there to try to cause trouble.
00:45:29.000They had walkie-talkies, they had military tactical gear, and they wanted to be able to communicate.
00:45:46.000300,000 people went to President Trump's speech at the ellipse, and about 10,000 people got around the Capitol, like kind of around it.
00:45:56.000And then a couple thousand people got up on the actual platform, and then about 500 people breached into the Capitol.
00:46:04.000And that information is so important from a timing perspective, too, Charlie.
00:46:08.000If you're watching this and you've never been to a large-scale demonstration or march in Washington, D.C., for hundreds of thousands of people to be jam-packed together downtown, that would take a very, very, very long time to march two miles from the ellipse to the United States Capitol.
00:46:24.000It's completely unrealistic that instantly, as soon as the speech was over, all of those people would be there.
00:46:30.000And so a guest on our program, Pastor Rick Brown, was in D.C. that day.
00:46:34.000He went to the speech at the ellipse and he walked on the National Mall, never got near the Capitol, just got a weird feeling and walked away.
00:46:42.000He's now being grouped into all the other people, you know, a terrific man of God, because he just happened to be in Washington, D.C. that day.
00:46:49.000That's a first point that needs to be made.
00:46:52.000Okay, so let's get to some of these clips here.
00:46:53.000And then I want to get into also what President Trump said.
00:47:25.000I don't know that they have found Pink Hat Lady.
00:47:27.000We went into great detail of Pink Hat Lady the other day on this program, but she's definitely a key player in the events that unfolded on January 6th, and I'm hopeful that she'll be arrested.
00:47:37.000So, Isabel, can you call us some clips here?
00:47:39.000I'm trying to get to the same list that you're on here.
00:47:41.000Yeah, so guys, I want to break down for you just the enormity of how many different situations were taking place at the Capitol on January 6th.
00:47:51.000So many moving parts, different groups, different individuals.
00:47:54.000There's been some key players that have risen to the top, one of which being John Sullivan, who amazingly was interviewed on CNN the night of January 6th for taking the video footage of Ashley Babbitt being shot in the United States Capitol building.
00:48:07.000We have a couple clips talking about John Sullivan's role really within the events that unfolded on January 6th.
00:48:14.000But before that, even he was a leader of an organization called Insurgents USA and in Washington, D.C., loves talking about how much it's time for revolution.
00:48:23.000We've got clip 109 ready to show you guys, and it really just speaks to his intentions here in Washington, D.C. Play tape.
00:49:01.000And he was arrested for going into the Capitol and I believe for unlawful entry.
00:49:07.000And there was some, I want to be specific on his indictment, but he's a BLM guy, professional agitator that dressed and disguised himself as a Trump supporter.
00:49:16.000So that starts to question the narrative a little bit.
00:49:18.000So not everyone there was at the ellipse, and not everyone there is even a supporter of the president.
00:49:22.000He's calling for the president to get pulled out of the White House.
00:50:55.000It's not because there's evidence to show that there's a little bit, there's both.
00:51:00.000However, the evidence is more and more pointing in the direction that the people that were leading this, that were actually in the Capitol, and that were penetrating the Capitol from within, including Pink Hat Lady, had schematics, architecture, design, and an idea of exactly what was going to happen.
00:51:19.000And look, we're going to shoot it to you straight.
00:51:21.000BLM Incorporated, that guy was involved, John Sullivan.
00:51:24.000There were also Trump supporters that were involved that got caught up in this, some of which regret their actions, others that do not regret their actions.
00:51:36.000So the question is, as we go into these clips here, which is really important, and I hope some of these clips are played during the Senate impeachment trial.
00:52:06.000There's also been Discord chats released showing that he was bragging that he was infiltrating.
00:52:12.000And this was precisely what we were concerned about as the events of January 6th were unfolding and we were sitting here in real time breaking down the information.
00:52:20.000We said, just because you're wearing a red MAGA hat or a hat that says someone's name on it does not mean you have support for that individual.
00:52:26.000So I'm interested to see if more of these stories come out.
00:52:30.000And so this one is probably one of the most interesting clips that I think we have where it shows that there is instructions being given and the people that were really doing the heavy lifting here are not dressed like Trump supporters.
00:52:47.000They have backpacks and it looks like they were trying to infiltrate the United States government.
00:52:52.000Let's play tape and keep the mic on, please.
00:52:56.000So we're going to roll it muted just because there's some bad words that have been said here.
00:53:01.000So here's a group of people inside the U.S. Capitol looking like they're regrouping.
00:53:05.000It looks like a mixed group of people.
00:53:06.000It looks like could be legitimate Trump supporters and people that hadn't gotten near the Trump speech within a mile the whole day, right?
00:54:35.000He does not look like someone who is here to go protest the election results.
00:54:39.000He looks like a guy who's trying to thwart the overthrow of the government.
00:54:43.000Now, let's just go back to some commentary here.
00:54:46.000Now, we're going to go through on Monday, piece by piece, of all the different pieces of evidence here that show that there were people that were here with nefarious intentions beforehand.
00:55:00.000However, that does not get Trump completely cleared.
00:55:03.000Remember, now that the House has passed the Articles of Impeachment, the way this works is if he has been quote unquote indicted.
00:55:22.000And something important to remember, too, is that this impeachment in the House went through in two hours before any of these news outlets and media outlets were remotely reporting on the timeline or the map that we just walked through with you guys.
00:57:20.000Telling people that you were going to walk down with them to the Capitol gave them the impression that this was blessed by you, and then any of the activity was like you're overseeing this.
00:57:36.000We're going to walk down any one you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.
00:57:48.000But the mistake is that it built up the crowd on top of the agitators that were already there because people thought they were going to walk alongside their president to the Capitol.
00:58:55.000He didn't say it metaphorically and everyone cheered and they could tell that he could probably tell in real time that people thought he was going to ride a motorcade and they were going to march down to the Capitol together and he was going to give a speech there.
01:01:38.000Here's the biggest problem is that I don't think the president knew he was telling his supporters to go walk into an attempted militia gathering to go penetrate the U.S. Capitol.
01:01:51.000And we went through a CNN article a few days ago that said by Wednesday morning, before the president ever even departed to give the speech, the FBI had received over 126,000 tips that something nefarious was going to happen at the Capitol.
01:02:05.000And so maybe the president knew, maybe he didn't.
01:02:07.000That's actually going to be the crux of the entire Senate impeachment trial.
01:02:12.000Was President Trump briefed on what was happening at the Capitol?
01:02:15.000Because the regular citizens didn't know.
01:02:18.000The regular public, you know, always hear things happening in D.C., people are there, like whatever.
01:02:23.000And if he wasn't briefed, why wasn't he briefed?
01:02:26.000That's another really important question that should come up.
01:02:29.000That's the whole idea of cross-examination of witnesses, due process, discovery, not these three-day trials that happen.
01:02:36.000So it's all going to come down to, because all this other language is just metaphorical nonsense.
01:02:40.000Did President Trump knowingly tell his supporters to go into what intelligence agencies already knew was going to be a mess?
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01:03:34.000So the entire Senate circus that's about to happen is going to really be around if it's actually a trial and not just an up or down vote on the merits of impeachment, whether or not impeachment should be happening or not.
01:03:48.000It's really going to be around: did President Trump briefed on whether or not there was nonsense happening in the Capitol or not beforehand?
01:03:56.000Because there were people gathering, there were intelligence reports, FBI was briefed.
01:03:58.000And if he wasn't briefed, why wasn't he briefed?
01:04:01.000And that's a whole different set of questions that need to be asked.
01:04:05.000However, to give some defense to the president here, who would have thought that just telling your supporters to go peacefully and patriotically go to the Capitol and they, oh, you have to show strength and fight.
01:04:25.000Everyone uses this sort of language all the time, right?
01:04:28.000We talk about a culture war, fight for your values.
01:04:31.000That stuff is way over-policing of speech.
01:04:35.000Where I said that the president does have a vulnerability here, though, is the seven mentions of saying, I'm going to walk alongside of you to the Capitol.
01:04:45.000And I don't believe the president knew what he was sending his supporters into.
01:04:51.000He has no track record of that whatsoever because little did he know he was sending them into something that was way different than anything we've seen in Washington, D.C. for decades, which was based on all publicly available reports, arrests, and footage that we have been reviewing that we're going to go through and get some of those clips, Isabelle, just some of the stuff that shows suspicious behavior.
01:05:14.000What was happening in D.C. was hundreds of people that were in tactical gear, gas masks, walkie-talkies, that were instigators and agitators that were there before the president's speech, that were there before the president finished speaking, that all of a sudden were given tens of thousands of new bodies behind them where they're agitating and they're instigating,
01:05:38.000was all of a sudden given either a little push or a little bit of more of an appearance that they're really bigger than they really are.
01:05:47.000And we talked about this before, but there is a psychology to crowds.
01:05:53.000The bigger a crowd gets, it's called crowd psychology.
01:05:58.000And I'm going to do a whole podcast on this next week.
01:06:00.000And this is important for everyone to learn, especially when you're in big crowds, if you're in airplanes, if you're in tight, there's no joke here.
01:06:07.000If you're in subways, if you're at a baseball stadium, a football stadium, it's called mob psychology.
01:06:12.000And it's a branch of social psychology.
01:06:15.000And crowd behavior can be heavily influenced by the loss of responsibility, the individual, and the impression of the universality of behavior.
01:06:25.000And I'm reading from just a description here online, both of which increase with the crowd size.
01:06:31.000So the larger the crowd, the more that there are agitators that know how to get up a crowd, paired with the idea of mob psychology, all of a sudden you're going to have Joe Smith, like one of those guys that was there from Tennessee that just got arrested, either Tennessee or Kentucky.
01:06:47.000And he says, I just made the biggest mistake of my life.
01:07:24.000And Shapiro, not Ben Shapiro, that guy that used to run the Washington Attorney General's office wrote this piece, and he got a lot of pushback for it saying, I have prosecuted incitement.
01:08:10.000We used metaphorical political language that everyone has used in all of human history, and there was no intention to commit domestic terrorism.
01:08:19.000And in fact, the president came out and spoke out against it.
01:08:23.000And there's no track record at all whatsoever of President Trump and any one of his rallies ever having this pattern of behavior.
01:08:33.000And another thing they might try to cherry pick, which, you know, he shouldn't have probably tweeted out, which probably brought a lot of these people in, is like, we're going to have a wild protest.
01:08:41.000I mean, all right, again, I think that's a little bit too much of kind of the word stretching.
01:08:46.000But I don't like the prosecution of heavily charged political language.
01:09:14.000There's an article on the Federalist here that says, I saw provocateurs at the Capitol riot on January the 6th.
01:09:21.000Number one, plain clothed, plain clothes militants, militants, aggressive men in Donald Trump and MAGA gear at the front of police lines that were out of character.
01:09:30.000Agent provocateurs, scatter groups of men exhorting the marchers to gather closely and tightly together towards the center.
01:09:37.000Fake Trump protesters, a few young men wearing Trump or MAGA hats backwards who did not fit in.
01:09:41.000A disciplined, uniformed column of attackers.
01:09:44.000This is an article by Michael Waller, published on the 14th of January at the Federalist.
01:09:52.000So let's get into some more of this footage here, and I think it's really important to play.
01:09:57.000Let's go to cut 127 here of CNN's Jade Sacker.
01:10:02.000Let's turn this volume off on this, please, because I think there's some bad words.
01:10:05.000Coordinating with now arrested John Sullivan.
01:10:08.000Wait, just look how they're just walking in.
01:10:10.000Cut 127, walking straight into the Capitol rotunda.
01:10:14.000Now, some of the arguments people are making is, oh, it was all peaceful inside.
01:10:18.000Okay, look, you should know better than to walk into the United States Capitol after breaking a barricade and breaking police.
01:10:23.000That defense is not going to stand up in court at all.
01:11:30.000Charlie, in the way you construct, construe the president's words after the fact, I can see how they can be taken incorrectly.
01:11:36.000But I, as a reasonable, logical, and thoughtful person, did not and do not hear any encouragement to do anything other than go to the Capitol and support the cause peacefully and with moral strength.
01:11:44.000I guess what I didn't think about is a lot of people were not logical and reasonable.
01:11:50.000I never actually inferred that he incited violence.
01:11:52.000And so what I said is he did promote mobilization into something that he, I don't think he knew, was already a brewing instigating scene, right?
01:12:02.000President Trump, intentionally or unintentionally, and I think unintentionally, because there's no evidence whatsoever to say intentionally, supported the mobilization of his supporters into a perfect storm of chaos that was already underway with walkie-talkie zip tie shaman people that were trying to take over the Capitol.
01:13:16.000But they might find that they just might have got distracted or whatever and it was completely unintentional.
01:13:20.000Or they get in a car accident and someone passes away.
01:13:22.000That's probably even a better example, right?
01:13:25.000They probably will not go to jail for first degree, second degree, or third degree murder, but they might go to jail for manslaughter, which is a much lower threshold, right?
01:13:33.000Meaning in the threshold, not threshold, less prison time.
01:13:51.000Because, and so that's why the arrests are happening So quickly because some people are like, well, I didn't have the intention to go into the Capitol.
01:14:03.000Now, what's going to happen is that you're going to see some of these people that were arrested for just kind of a class A misdemeanor or a felony.
01:14:12.000I think they're all felonies, actually.
01:14:15.000You're going to see people all of a sudden get dropped with like 50 more indictments where they're going to get like conspiracy, sedition, like domestic terrorism.
01:14:26.000Well, through text messages, interviewing of witnesses, they're going to find out that Zip Tie Man or the MASH Man or the Shaman Man, they had the intention that day that they didn't get caught up in some sort of spontaneous mob that they were like, no, no, no, I'm here today to go take ground from the government.
01:14:43.000And intention should matter to Congress when it comes to the exact language of their articles of impeachment.
01:14:48.000They were filed to say that the president is guilty, theoretically, of incitement.
01:14:53.000Incitement is a very specific word in the legal community.
01:14:56.000And you mentioned Shapiro, who's phenomenal.
01:14:59.000Yeah, so this individual was the assistant attorney general of D.C. for a very long time in the early 2000s.
01:15:04.000He wrote a great opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal on January 10th saying, no, Trump is not guilty of incitement.
01:15:10.000He did inflame emotions, but that's not a crime.
01:15:13.000And the president did not once mention violence, much less provoke it.
01:15:17.000When you break this down from a legal perspective and gather all of the evidence, which we've been doing for several weeks now, Charlie, the word incitement is completely irrelevant to what happened with the president's involvement on January 6th.
01:15:28.000According to Shapiro, in order for incitement to happen, you have to have the intention to want, like, so what you're saying didn't have an unintended consequence, right?
01:15:47.000Which there's no way they'll be able to prove that.
01:15:49.000The only way they could prove that, the only way is if there was evidence that members of the FBI and the intelligence community came to President Trump and they said, there's some really bad stuff that's heating up.
01:16:06.000We are getting, because there's public reports that are saying this, right?
01:16:10.000After the fact, but we are getting intelligence reports, Mr. President, that there are domestic people that are up to no good that are going to be in and around the Capitol.
01:16:51.000And he knew that he knew what was going to happen there.
01:16:53.000You would have tens of thousands of people march to the Capitol.
01:16:55.000I think that President Trump was believing, again, he had no rally experience where anything he tells his audience to do results in anything but peaceful.
01:17:07.000I think that's all he's never experienced.
01:17:09.000I think that's a really good argument, too, for his defense, which is where is another Trump rally where all of a sudden all the Trump people become, you know, militarized?
01:17:19.000And there's certainly not a shortage of other events to compare this to.
01:17:22.000I've seen so many over the last two years.
01:17:24.000Context is super important for the defense, right?
01:17:26.000So the context will say it's not as if President Trump has this long track record of his rallies going awry, right?
01:17:33.000It's not as if he was surprised everyone else, as anyone else was.
01:17:38.000And so the other piece of that is if his, which is defense should reinforce, which is what President Trump thought his call to action would result in.
01:17:50.000And that's where the defense, again, if we had a real trial in the Senate, this would end up happening where he would have witnesses that would come and testify on his behalf, bodymen, aides, and they'd say they'd testify under oath.
01:18:04.000Yes, in my private conversations with the president, he was hoping that a peaceful group of people would assemble on the Washington Mall to be able to peacefully applaud certain lawmakers for what they were doing at the election results.
01:18:16.000And that's still a call to action, but it's not a call for incitement of violence.
01:18:44.000And these are the questions that need to be asked in the next few days, especially from members of Congress.
01:18:49.000But based on the evidentiary support, sorry, that we have right in front of us right now, there's no justification for any sort of conviction for incitement, insurrection, or anything that Congress is saying the president did.
01:19:02.000I think Jeffrey Shapiro really sums this up so well at the end of his opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal.
01:19:07.000I really encourage you guys to read this.
01:19:08.000He says, the president's critics want him charged for inflaming the emotions of angry Americans.
01:19:13.000That alone does not satisfy the elements of any criminal offense.
01:19:17.000And therefore, his speech is protected by the Constitution that members of Congress are sworn to support and defend.
01:19:22.000And the other aspect of this is, and this is where I think that we as conservatives should stake our biggest fight in this impeachment of the details, is this nonsense around strength and weakness and fight.
01:19:44.000And if we're going to start prosecuting and indicting people based on saying, I'm going to go fight to go, you know, repeal the Second Amendment, which I don't agree with, but I don't think someone should get indicted for saying that.
01:20:07.000Now, they should come under criticism for that.
01:20:09.000I don't even think President Trump was near the place near criticism.
01:20:12.000He was using language he's always used.
01:20:14.000But the only reason this is an issue is because that there was the spillover at the Capitol, which again, there are three different types of people that were there at the Capitol.
01:20:24.000They were mainstream Trump supporters that got involved in something that they really didn't understand.
01:20:30.000And I think they made a really big mistake.
01:20:33.000Professional agitators and instigators that just go anywhere they possibly can to cause a fight and a ruckus.
01:20:38.000And then people that call themselves Trump supporters that are right-wing identitarians that are not part of any movement that you and I are part of, that are part of militia or whatever that sort of, all those kind of mashed together, kind of, and where were the most amount of people?
01:20:55.000That's the most important thing, right?
01:20:56.000So there was only a couple hundred of the militia type people, only probably a couple dozen of the instigators and 15,000 of the Trump supporters.
01:21:04.000But if you look at the actual people who went into Capitol, the people that were breaking the windows, the people that were penetrating it, the actual audience you're dealing with, which is like 500 to 600 people based on public reports, you're dealing with a group of people that is, as a percentage basis, a lot of the instigator type, you know, of instigators slash militant type.
01:21:30.000And if this was a thorough investigation, which I hope that it will be, that's not to say that this won't happen.
01:21:35.000And I very sincerely hope the Senate will commit a very, very thorough investigation of everything that happened on January 6th.
01:21:41.000You would see a clear differentiation between a crime of passion and a premeditated crime.
01:21:46.000And those violent, crazy groups that love to worship chaos that incite chaos all day, every day, that we've been very clear to denounce, clearly had premeditated intentions and had knowledge of the layout of the building and had means to do so with flagpoles or baseball bats or whatever was being passed through the window to carry out their intended crime.
01:22:05.000Whereas a crime of passion in a court of law is considered a different thing entirely.
01:22:09.000It's in which the perpetrator commits the act against someone because of a sudden, strong impulse, such as sudden rage.
01:22:16.000That is what they're trying to paint everything on January 6th, 2020.
01:22:20.000But that is not the reality of what's occurring.
01:22:21.000Well, and interestingly, a crime of passion, if a defense attorney argues it correctly, has a lower threshold of punishment than a premeditated crime.
01:22:34.000And it goes back to that mob psychology almost that we were talking about that in certain situations, because of human nature, people act differently than who they truly are and what their intentions are, which is why intention, again, is so important in criminal court.
01:22:47.000And that's why some of these people that were in there that are now having all of their communications examined because they were arrested and their devices were surrendered, they're going to have a lot more charges slapped onto them, a lot of these people, because they're going to find text messages, and they already have.
01:23:41.000And the truth is that you had tens of thousands of people arriving with professional instigators and militia people that were primarily penetrating the top of it, which with accompanied by thousands of people that had been taken over by the psychology of the mob.
01:23:55.000And by the way, people that are involved in BLM stuff, they all come under the same psychology of the mob.
01:23:59.000And by the way, that's not a defense in the court of law.
01:24:02.000You can't go in front of a judge and be like, you know what?
01:24:06.000I kind of lost my identity because of the crowd.
01:24:08.000Now, a good defense attorney, though, can argue to a judge or a jury that they're being over-prosecuted and saying, hold on a second, after examination of all these sorts, I mean, you're going to see this with some of these people that have been arrested that went into the Capitol and didn't destroy anything, right?
01:24:25.000And they're going to say, my client obviously made a terrible mistake.
01:24:29.000You know, my client regrets what they did, but they got caught up in the moment.
01:24:35.000And there's no like multi-year pattern of behavior that their intention was trying to destroy, you know, the United States system of government.
01:24:44.000Which typically speaks to how the jury would sentence those people, too, and what the specific punishment of their crime might be.
01:24:50.000Which this is where, again, we're getting too into the weeds here in some ways, but it's actually helpful.
01:24:55.000Where, you know, do you plea and then do you try to say I was overcharged with, you know, or which charges do you fight?
01:25:42.000As for Pink Cat Lady, I can't wait to see her actually indicted.
01:25:46.000I'm telling you, she is the gatekeeper of this whole thing.
01:25:49.000There's something not the way she, her language, there's something not right there.
01:25:52.000If you really logically deduct her diction, which means word choice, and her sentence construction, there was a calmness to how she was talking, right?
01:26:02.000Can we put up that violence at the Capitol?
01:27:15.000Based on all the footage that we have of her and all the things she was doing and all the things she was saying, there is nothing that goes to show that what she was doing was a spontaneous act.
01:28:25.000Yeah, I would agree with that wholeheartedly, especially because even with the ideological divide starting to rise to the top on the left side of the aisle, I think they understand that a specific delineation between the two factions within the Democrat Party would actually harm their ability to stay in power.
01:28:41.000Jillian asks us, asked us, what is the best way to try and explain to others what happened to the Capitol?
01:28:45.000I think this link or any of the other links, I think we've been the most fair on this and quite honestly, like not really partisan, just kind of telling you exactly what has happened.
01:28:53.000We're just looking for facts like anybody else should.
01:28:55.000Yeah, and there's really not a narrative I'm trying to confirm.
01:28:57.000I'm just trying to push back against pre-existing dogmatic narratives where people are trying to grab power for no other reason than that.
01:29:06.000So this episode, I think, is a good one to send around to some of your friends.
01:30:48.000This is just something that Trump's defense team should bring up and say, Hey, do we have a do we have any idea why the doors were wide open at the Capitol?
01:32:01.000Right now, I would highly recommend George Orwell's 1984.
01:32:05.000It's actually the number one bestseller on Amazon right now, I think, which is very fitting to the times that we're living in, but very prophetic and powerful words in that book.
01:32:28.000And if you are not yet a believer of Jesus Christ and you're a logical person and you're like, eh, believing in Jesus is too illogical for me, check out the case for Christ.
01:32:39.000It is the most reasoned and logical, factual case.
01:32:44.000And so, just so you know, it's written by a guy by the name of Lee Strobel.
01:32:49.000Lee Strobel was a guy that was an atheist and he dove into the facts to try to disprove the resurrection.
01:32:59.000And of course, if you guys haven't read Charlie Kirk's The MAGA Doctrine, I think it's so important now that we can't forget about the legacy of this president and the ideology that drove the success of the last four years.
01:33:10.000Because unfortunately, January 6th is just going to be the new legacy in the media and for outspoken individuals on the left of what President Trump left behind.
01:35:10.000Many of you guys have heard this story, but I never anticipated the left to be so strong and outspoken and experience such hatred as a conservative and as a Christian on my campus.
01:35:20.000So it talks a lot about the assault on objective truth and conservative values in my college experience and beyond.
01:35:25.000There's some crazy stories in there with my former campus administrators that i'm sure they're going to love to see published internationally, but I encourage you guys to check it out.
01:35:34.000There's a lot more information on my personal social media at Theisabelle Brown on most platforms and i'll keep you updated as we get closer to launch day and this.
01:35:42.000Everybody, just get involved and get engaged.
01:35:43.000Isabel, at Turning Point USA, that's what we're doing every day, and it's Tpusa.com slash.
01:35:53.000That's the thing that's gonna bother, what's gonna bother me the most, by the way, we are gonna be your go-to place for all the impeachment nonsense.
01:36:05.000They're trying to destroy the constitution is what they're doing, and they are trying to delegitimize the constitution, and so it's less about Trump and more about our tradition and our precedent.
01:36:14.000So you better believe we will be here monitoring it nearly 24-7.
01:37:26.000As a Christ follower and a conservative, can you point us in any direction of actionable intel moving forward during these next four years so as not to sit back but to stand up and quote unquote fight metaphorically for our beliefs and morals and policies?
01:37:38.000Well, first of all, thank you for listening to us.
01:37:40.000We monitor as much as we can, and I can tell you we're on top of a lot of it.
01:37:44.000So our program, we appreciate you supporting and listening to that.
01:37:49.000Other news sources, justthenews.com is great.
01:37:52.000There's some other really good feeds out there that RealClearPolitics.com does a really good job.
01:37:59.000We hope that you continue to keep our live stream and our podcast as one of the top picks.
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