00:02:38.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:03:33.000Sometimes he's contrarian and he's brave.
00:03:36.000And going all the way back at the beginning of the pandemic, he's always just decided to go where the numbers, where the numbers lead him.
00:03:43.000And quite honestly, also on crime, he's had some of the best articles on what's happening with crime in America, but that's not what we're here to talk about.
00:04:16.000Look, I never thought that during a time of an open border, the most ubiquitous crime wave we've ever experienced, and inflation like Venezuela, strained supply lines, those wouldn't even be the problems.
00:04:30.000We'd literally be fighting for our bodies, our lives, our ability to live.
00:04:36.000And that's certainly what's been keeping me busy, but glad to join you today.
00:05:01.000So, you know, one thing is very clear.
00:05:03.000Whatever you do or don't do, pharmaceutical intervention, NPI, non-pharmaceutical intervention, I think the most consistent thing the last 18 months is it comes, it saturates an area for six to eight weeks and it leaves and then kind of comes back.
00:05:19.000So, you know, it's hard to draw conclusions because we have to understand natural cycles are the most important thing here.
00:05:26.000Now, to be clear, the virus is not natural.
00:05:31.000But once it's in circulation, that's what it seems to do.
00:05:34.000However, when you go to this province in India, and actually several others that also use ivermectin, but this one is the most profound because they institutionalized it most broadly throughout the population, is that their curve dropped the quickest and the earliest, and then it flatlined.
00:05:55.000So if you look at America, if you look at anywhere in Europe, even when it's low and out of season, there's a certain floor.
00:06:02.000There's a certain floor that is kind of always circulating.
00:06:17.000I just want to say, so this is Uttar Pradesh, a province in India, which is it, are they richer than Americans?
00:06:24.000You know, these are the places where you see 10, 12 o'clock at night, the streets line with homeless people.
00:06:30.000And I say that obviously facetiously, meaning that they do not have anywhere near the type of healthcare we have, but you're saying they're near almost immeasurable low rates of the Fauci virus.
00:06:42.000And you say that's because that well, so the only explanation we have is that they were using ivermectin and not just like, okay, you could use it in the hospital if you want and we won't cut your head off like they do here, but they actually proactively, and there's doctors there that talk about this.
00:07:56.000So there, they don't have enough rope to hang themselves.
00:07:59.000They don't have the money we have to spend trillions of dollars on things that don't work and then, you know, shut down, but then, you know, backfill that with trillions of dollars of printed monopoly money.
00:09:23.000People may never have heard of it, but it ropes in a little bit of Delhi and some urban areas.
00:09:27.000It is the largest, most populous state in India, which is the second most populous country on earth, and it has the lowest positivity rate.
00:09:36.000So that flies in the face of all the epidemiology we typically see, that the more urban an area is, the more it percolates.
00:09:43.000They had plenty of cases, but when they started using ivermectin, they got it down.
00:09:47.000And when they got it down, it's been, I would say, you know, July, August, September, October, four months, four months of flat line.
00:09:55.000We don't have anywhere on earth where we have four months of flat line.
00:10:00.000So that is what it looks like when you treat it and you treat it early.
00:10:04.000There's no such thing as high risk, low risk, obese.
00:10:19.000And that's, and again, it's not ivermectin.
00:10:22.000I want to make it very, I love ivermectin.
00:10:24.000It's a matter, I could come up with 50 things.
00:10:27.000In other words, someone has their, they call their PCP.
00:10:30.000So the same PCP that's like, hey, I'm writing a letter to your kids' class.
00:10:35.000No one, no two-year-old is allowed to be there unmasked when they don't have the virus, by the way.
00:10:41.000But then that same physician, if a 70-year-old patient with cardiovascular disease and diabetes calls up and says, hey, I just tested positive for COVID.
00:11:57.000So, so, you know, Charlie, this is the most revealing thing of the last 18 months, more so than the shots and the mask and the lockdown to the extent commensurate with how much you claim to care about COVID.
00:12:11.000Oh my God, a two-year-old walking around without symptoms, he might have COVID.
00:12:28.000And not only don't they want to treat it, here's the deal: the most important thing, it's hard to review 18 months' worth.
00:12:34.000And I know we've been, you know, it's been a while since I've been on, but the most important thing here and now that will answer everything that's going on, every enigma, is this.
00:12:43.000They want to make sure there is no control group.
00:12:47.000And I don't mean control is in power that they want.
00:12:49.000I mean, scientifically, a control group that does something different than what they're doing.
00:12:55.000Because if you had one state where people ubiquitously early on were like, I got COVID, rather than test and trace, test and control, test and treat right away.
00:13:09.000Like imagine you get a colonoscopy and like, hey, there's a bunch of polyps there.
00:13:13.000Let's wait until it's stage four cancer.
00:13:16.000Well, why treat it early when you can treat it later?
00:13:29.000They threw us in a building, set it on fire, blocked all the exits, and then threw lighter fluid on it to make sure it would burn quickly.
00:13:38.000That's the so-called vaccine and the remdesivir.
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00:17:02.000And so, Daniel, in one of your pieces, if my memory serves me well, I'm going to dig it up.
00:17:07.000You allude to the fact that this really is a regime that is being run by pharmaceutical companies, that this is about a small group of pharmaceutical companies that are calling the shots.
00:17:22.000Or is there another explanation to this?
00:17:24.000I mean, I think it's broader than that, but certainly one of the lead ships in that armada of the system, when you talk about the system, the cabal, the globalists, it's the pharmaceuticals.
00:17:34.000And I love how you call it the Fauci virus.
00:17:44.000They used Wuan because it was off shores.
00:17:46.000This was done by UNC, UNC Chapel Hill, Burrick, Jurassic, Fauci, and all the pharmaceuticals that were in it.
00:17:56.000By the way, fun fact, UNC Chapel Hill, which is the ground zero for the Guinness Function Research for Coronaviruses, you know that they're the ones who had remdesivir.
00:18:09.000How is it that the only thing that was ever approved, which as I wrote yesterday, I have an article on this at the Blaze, NIH's own website says it causes liver toxicity and renal failure.
00:18:20.000And we're seeing that with so many patients, which is why a lot of people come in moderate, you know, moderate COVID.
00:18:26.000They should get over it, just like they go into the hospital with pneumonia every year.
00:19:57.000So you have a guy in a situation in the ICU where the most precarious thing that you're trying to avoid is a pulmonary embolism, blood clotting in the lungs, blood clotting elsewhere as well.
00:20:08.000And the one thing they use causes, one thing causes kidney and liver failure.
00:20:20.000And I've had lawyers on my podcast that have taken them to court and they testified in court that they advised the family to take the patient off of life support.
00:20:31.000So bottom of the ninth inning, three outs, it's over.
00:23:25.000But fun fact, Pfizer 16 years ago established your property, our choice.
00:23:31.00016 years later, they've now established your body, our chores.
00:23:36.000So what we're describing is one of the more frustrating chapters in American history, and people are wondering why is it we can't even speak about this?
00:23:43.000And obviously, if you dare talk about it, you're suppressed.
00:23:46.000I want to ask you a side note question.
00:23:47.000You host the conservative review podcast.
00:23:50.000Have you been disappointed at how few conservatives have been willing to talk about this and instead pander to the pharmaceutical industries and basically be employees and shills of AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson, and Pfizer?
00:24:03.000Man, Charlie, I got to be careful here.
00:24:55.000And I said to myself, I don't earn a lot of money in this.
00:24:58.000If I wanted to do it, I would go into something else.
00:25:00.000And if I'm going to do this, it's got to make a difference.
00:25:03.000And it frustrated me that on any measure, since I got into this, the pre, you know, the 2000s, the first decade, professionally, on any measure, fiscal, I remember writing press releases for people in the Tea Party wave.
00:25:53.000I mean, that's not even, that's obvious.
00:25:56.000This is an emergency, but I've done that even before COVID.
00:25:59.000But what I found throughout my career is this, and I'm going to get to COVID, but what I found throughout my career is 99% of conservative organizations and individuals, they will never fight the issue that matters at the time it matters and in the way it matters.
00:26:18.000So, you know, it's not that they'll necessarily be out of sync ideologically broadly, but they'll wave the flag.
00:26:40.000And it's like, look, I never thought I'd talk about ivermectin and pulmonary inflammation, cytokines storms, and, you know, how to deal with this.
00:26:48.000But that's what you're confronted with.
00:26:50.000I mean, my entire podcast the last half a year has turned into a medical show getting people treatment.
00:27:00.000I lost the 30-year-old and I promised myself I'll leave no man behind.
00:27:32.000You can't get a nebulizer with butcinide.
00:27:37.000But even the doctors that do it, they're getting their licenses yanks now.
00:27:41.000I mean, the pharmacies won't prescribe.
00:27:44.000And the problem with all these conservative people is like most of them really have been MIA from the lockdowns to the mask to the shots head on.
00:27:54.000That's if they're not downright on the wrong side of the issue, which some of them are.
00:27:58.000But I'm saying the ones that aren't downright on the wrong side of the issue, they're never focused on it.
00:28:03.000And, you know, look, this all started where?
00:29:14.000Hey, actually, no, Charlie, I'll give you a 28 to 2 majority in the Wyoming Senate.
00:29:19.000And we have a 16-year-old girl in the freaking state of Wyoming being arrested for not covering her breathing orifices.
00:29:27.000So we can't even have a degree of post-constitutional tyranny to the level of February 2020 in the freaking state of Wyoming with a 28 to 2 majority.
00:29:39.000I know we can't influence Biden, but I'll tell you, if we had all of our voices going after Governor Mark Gordon in Wyoming and Brad Little in Idaho and Asa Hutchinson in Arkansas, boy, he can make a sir.
00:30:18.000You have the utter greed of the private sector, but you don't have the check and balance of the free market because government, through a scheme of taxation, regulation, litigation, subsidization, gave them a monopoly.
00:30:31.000And then now they downright mandate the shot.
00:30:34.000So then you have no safety guardrails.
00:30:54.000And now they have the ability to mandate it on us.
00:30:57.000So, you have this conduit where you and I can elect the board of Pfizer, but they're more powerful than anything else, and they control us.
00:31:08.000So, in some ways, it's worse than the traditional socialism where you maybe could have some degree of democratic process a little bit.
00:31:15.000Here, they Pfizer, if Pfizer calls a shot, they get it.
00:31:20.000There's nothing they could do, there is nothing that could happen now that could get the shots off the market.
00:31:28.000There is nothing, there is no degree of mayhem from it.
00:31:32.000There are no safety nets, there's no safety guardrails, they've been ripped off.
00:31:44.000And I look, you know, my whole career was made off of illegal immigration, by the way, and it's worse than it's ever been.
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00:34:13.000They had a hit piece on hydrogen peroxide in the nebulizer.
00:34:17.000And now they had a hit piece on phenofiberate.
00:34:20.000And now they have a hit on aspirin because they found out that, you know, the Washington University study that it reduces mortality by 47% because the blood clotting does a lot of people in.
00:34:31.000They might survive the pulmonary, but the blood clotting will do them in.
00:34:36.000And two days later, they're like 70 years of research with aspirin and heart attacks because they have to make sure not only do you not take it for COVID, but they're like, damn, there's people who are taking it anyway for other stuff.
00:36:13.000Like there was not, and I kicked that thing in the nuts more than anyone.
00:36:16.000I had more articles on that more comprehensively earlier than anyone else.
00:36:21.000And okay, it was a little bit whatever.
00:36:23.000But then when I hit the early treatment, which you'd think would kind of be more universal, like we're not attacking the shots or the mask or the lockdown, just saying, hey, like COVID is a big deal.
00:36:43.000If from day one, we would have listened to Zolenko and Peter McCullough and these guys and Ryan Cole and we would have treated this just early, 99% of the deaths would have been avoided, and people would have gotten it.
00:36:56.000They would have gotten over it easily.
00:38:03.000They don't want the pandemic to end because if you did, you would have treated it.
00:38:07.000And now you have all these, you know, viral enhancement and the virus is getting stronger and stronger the more we play around with it and it's coming harder and harder to deal with it.
00:38:18.000We could have, I mean, you know, the iteration we had pre-July.
00:38:22.000I call it the Pfizer variant because that's when the leaky vaccine syndrome broke out.
00:38:46.000So let me, so let's just, let's just reiterate in this, and I know we touched on this, and this is the other article I want to talk, talk about in the time we have remaining.
00:39:21.000And in my mind, okay, so the few cases will have, you know, a few cases.
00:39:25.000We thought in the South, you'll get a little bit of the Hope-Simpson curve.
00:39:28.000They get the Southern latitudes, a little bit of a bump, but it will be the remaining people who didn't get it and didn't get the shot, and mainly older people.
00:39:35.000And then, and I just want to preface that with something.
00:39:39.000So the data is, I'm not even going to go over it because everyone agrees.
00:39:42.000Like, let me just say in Florida, there was a 94% increase in mortality in August of this year versus August of last year, with many more people already having had it, plus zero people were vaccinated then.
00:40:08.000No, that's because it was the Delta, as if that was bound to happen no matter what.
00:40:12.000And boy, is it great we had the vaccine because without that, man, we would have had it even worse.
00:40:17.000So now I want to preface this by saying it's interesting that right before this hell broke out around July is when around May is when they branded it Alpha Beta Gamma Delta.
00:40:31.000So until then, it was a geographical distinction.
00:40:33.000It was the Kent English variant, the South African, the Brazilian, and then the Indian one was what they made Delta.
00:40:40.000It's kind of interesting because that's like that's confined.
00:40:45.000So this, you make it as a global like progression as if it naturally was going to go from alpha beta gamma delta.
00:41:23.000Okay, it's a very important point because Israeli data now, U.S. data shows this too, and studies, it leaks around the five to six month mark.
00:43:36.000He said, wait a minute, we're arguing about blood clots, side effects, and that's what to do.
00:43:42.000But he says there's a macro epidemiological microbio evolutionary side effect that no one's talking about.
00:43:53.000If you mass vaccinate in the middle of an ongoing pandemic, particularly with a narrow spectrum, suboptimal antibodies that are half-assed, it's like having your weakest member of the gang go up to the opposing gang with your weapons.
00:45:00.000And what happened was it was a leaky vaccine, meaning it protected the chickens that got it from severe illness, but it did not, it was called an imperfect vaccine.
00:45:28.000So all these SOBs that said, oh, it's the unvaccinated harming the vaccinated, that could never happen because either it works or it doesn't.
00:45:43.000And by the way, they say in the article, if this were ever to happen with humans, the first sign will be if the vaccine only stops illness and not transmission.
00:45:52.000And they're like championing that as if that's a good thing.
00:45:55.000Now, by the way, now, three months later, it's leaked so much, it stopped even the efficacy against serious illness.
00:46:01.000Hence, most of the people in the hospital getting seriously ill are vaccinated as well.
00:46:04.000But at the time, I want to make this very clear: July, August was the worst pandemic we ever had.
00:46:12.000Worse than New York City, Florida, Arkansas, parts of Texas.
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00:53:49.000I mean, this is the problem with these guys.
00:53:52.000They're always when patriots like us jump in the sea and when it's hard, and then we make it to the point where it's kosher to talk about and it's not like you know, like extreme, then they're able to kind of dip their toe in that water.
00:55:05.000Well, what are you going to do if the results are not what you want them to be?
00:55:09.000You're screwed because you're not going to get published.
00:55:12.000And if you try to put it on maybe a lower-level or one of the pre-printing servers, pre-print servers, you're done.
00:55:22.000Like, I destroyed a Harvard guy recently by citing, he did a study looking at 65 different countries and 3,000 counties and found no R-squared correlation and actually negative correlation between vaccination rates and case rates.
00:55:37.000And I just, I didn't even, I'm a commentary guy, but I just pretty much just block quoted it.
00:55:43.000And he got the media went to, he's like, no, no, that's not what I meant.
00:55:47.000We meant the you also have to wash your hands with the vaccine.
00:56:09.000But they'll never hear about all of the vaccinated people that were hospitalized from the vaccine and then got COVID and were hospitalized from COVID.
00:56:17.000And the common denominator between both of them is that they didn't get proper early treatment.
00:58:37.000A lot of the state legislatures are about to meet for redistricting for special session, and even the general session is only a few months away.
00:58:48.000If you had everyone flooding the state legislators with saying you better do this and not do this, the bills on the mandates, the bills on protecting early treatment, going after the healthcare cartel, all the medical freedom stuff.
01:00:28.000These red state governors, most of them, but if you promoted that contrast, if you made red states as unhospitable for the left to live in as blue states are for our people, aka you don't invite in businesses, give them corporate welfare, and then allow them to hang you with that rope and then promote their culture and then promote totalitarianism in your state.
01:00:53.000You actually make it a true red state.
01:00:55.000And actually, if anything, maybe you say, hey, look, sink or swim, buddy.
01:00:59.000It's either the California taxes or you play by our rules.
01:01:05.000If we can't win in Idaho, if we have Ryan Cole in Idaho being investigated for prescribing ivermectin and the legislature doesn't do anything, if we have a 16-year-old girl being arrested for not wearing a Chinese diaper in the state of Wyoming, we're done.
01:01:23.000If we can't win in those states, I don't want to hear about, oh, what we can do with the national trifecta four years from now when we're dead already in a gulag with a narrow rhino majority.
01:01:35.000You tell me how a president is going to change HHS, drain the swamp.
01:01:59.000No, that has nothing to do with anything.
01:02:01.000You need an interposition bill in every state saying by a concurrent resolution, and we're going to be pushing this, concurrent resolution, anything the feds do that we believe is unconstitutional, we will criminalize its enforcement.
01:02:15.000We will criminalize its enforcement within the state.
01:02:19.000Let me leave you with this final thought.
01:02:22.000The Democrats in the blue states have already done this.
01:02:25.000If we ever had Ron DeSantis as president or whomever, you will not control them.
01:02:37.000If blue states are able to criminalize federal immigration enforcement on behalf of illegal alien sex offenders, then you better believe that we need every governor, attorney general, and state legislator and county official in a red state to criminalize totalitarian totalitarian fascist mandates on the bodies of U.S. citizens.
01:03:14.000It's not about the next fight, the next thing.
01:03:17.000It's not about the legacy flag-waving issues.
01:03:20.000I'm broadly conservative on these issues.
01:03:23.000Are you going to save medical freedom, bodily autonomy, basic liberty, or not?
01:03:31.000Or is liberty just about marijuana, illegal aliens, and criminals?
01:03:36.000Like some of our friends in some of these organizations that they're awfully silent when it comes to, they call themselves libertarian, but it's quite interesting how this issue is somewhat of an exception to that those principles.
01:03:52.000And I just think we cannot recover from this.