The Charlie Kirk Show - Fauci Virus Thought Crimes with Daniel Horowitz

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00:03:17.000 Hey, everybody.

00:03:18.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:03:20.000 With us today is a friend of mine, and I do not say this lightly.

00:03:24.000 He is one of the smartest people on the planet, and he's a gift.

00:03:27.000 He's a gift to our country.

00:03:29.000 He's a gift from God.

00:03:30.000 And he is wise.

00:03:31.000 He is relentless.

00:03:33.000 Sometimes he's contrarian and he's brave.

00:03:36.000 And going all the way back at the beginning of the pandemic, he's always just decided to go where the numbers, where the numbers lead him.

00:03:43.000 And quite honestly, also on crime, he's had some of the best articles on what's happening with crime in America, but that's not what we're here to talk about.

00:03:50.000 It's Daniel Horowitz.

00:03:51.000 The name of his podcast is called Conservative Review.

00:03:55.000 And he's in very high demand now.

00:03:57.000 He's a treasure.

00:03:58.000 When he talks, I just stop.

00:04:00.000 I drop what I'm doing.

00:04:01.000 I say he makes sense.

00:04:02.000 He knows his stuff.

00:04:03.000 And we have gone into great detail on two of his articles in particular that I want to talk about.

00:04:10.000 But first, Daniel, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:04:13.000 Great to be with you.

00:04:14.000 And thank you for your kind comments.

00:04:16.000 Look, I never thought that during a time of an open border, the most ubiquitous crime wave we've ever experienced, and inflation like Venezuela, strained supply lines, those wouldn't even be the problems.

00:04:30.000 We'd literally be fighting for our bodies, our lives, our ability to live.

00:04:36.000 And that's certainly what's been keeping me busy, but glad to join you today.

00:04:40.000 Well, it's just terrific.

00:04:41.000 And so we're going to go into two of your articles in particular and we'll see where it leads us.

00:04:46.000 The first, I want to talk about your piece on a province in India from Uttar Pradesh.

00:04:53.000 I might be mispronouncing it and how they used ivermectin.

00:04:57.000 What do the numbers tell you when you did your research?

00:05:00.000 Sure.

00:05:01.000 So, you know, one thing is very clear.

00:05:03.000 Whatever you do or don't do, pharmaceutical intervention, NPI, non-pharmaceutical intervention, I think the most consistent thing the last 18 months is it comes, it saturates an area for six to eight weeks and it leaves and then kind of comes back.

00:05:19.000 So, you know, it's hard to draw conclusions because we have to understand natural cycles are the most important thing here.

00:05:26.000 Now, to be clear, the virus is not natural.

00:05:29.000 It was created and contrived.

00:05:31.000 But once it's in circulation, that's what it seems to do.

00:05:34.000 However, when you go to this province in India, and actually several others that also use ivermectin, but this one is the most profound because they institutionalized it most broadly throughout the population, is that their curve dropped the quickest and the earliest, and then it flatlined.

00:05:55.000 So if you look at America, if you look at anywhere in Europe, even when it's low and out of season, there's a certain floor.

00:06:02.000 There's a certain floor that is kind of always circulating.

00:06:06.000 There it is literally dead.

00:06:08.000 And when I say dead, I mean a place, you know, what, 70% of the size of America, right?

00:06:13.000 240 million people having 10 cases.

00:06:16.000 10 cases.

00:06:17.000 I just want to say, so this is Uttar Pradesh, a province in India, which is it, are they richer than Americans?

00:06:24.000 You know, these are the places where you see 10, 12 o'clock at night, the streets line with homeless people.

00:06:30.000 And I say that obviously facetiously, meaning that they do not have anywhere near the type of healthcare we have, but you're saying they're near almost immeasurable low rates of the Fauci virus.

00:06:42.000 And you say that's because that well, so the only explanation we have is that they were using ivermectin and not just like, okay, you could use it in the hospital if you want and we won't cut your head off like they do here, but they actually proactively, and there's doctors there that talk about this.

00:07:03.000 They put out good videos about it.

00:07:04.000 They would proactively get people on ivermectin, dispense it to the homes.

00:07:10.000 So people are taking it early.

00:07:11.000 Some were taking it prophylactically as a preemptive measure, where obviously it's almost impervious.

00:07:17.000 If you use it, then that's always the best before the virus could replicate inside the cells.

00:07:22.000 And then, and it wasn't just that.

00:07:24.000 They also use antibiotics.

00:07:26.000 Either some used oxycycline, azithromycin, and a few other things.

00:07:30.000 And it's important to realize, again, it's not about any one drug.

00:07:34.000 It's about treating a virus.

00:07:36.000 It's a very novel idea.

00:07:38.000 We've done everything under the sun.

00:07:40.000 We've dug up the graves.

00:07:41.000 We've done everything.

00:07:42.000 We've destroyed every physical, mental health, emotional health, children's lives, economic disruption.

00:07:48.000 We have done everything except for treat the virus, right?

00:07:52.000 It's an unbelievable thing that has been forgotten.

00:07:55.000 We have never done this in history.

00:07:56.000 So there, they don't have enough rope to hang themselves.

00:07:59.000 They don't have the money we have to spend trillions of dollars on things that don't work and then, you know, shut down, but then, you know, backfill that with trillions of dollars of printed monopoly money.

00:08:11.000 They can't do that.

00:08:13.000 So here we've made everything expensive.

00:08:15.000 They are for pennies on the dollars.

00:08:17.000 They had ivermectin, and now Americans are ironically getting it from India because they've locked it up here for most people. 0.99

00:08:24.000 And what you see is a flat line.

00:08:26.000 And when I say a flat line, I mean 10 cases in a country, a state the size of 70% of America, 240 million people.

00:08:38.000 And half of the districts in Uttar Pradesh have zero cases, and the other half that have more people in them have a few.

00:08:46.000 Now, Daniel, the let's say medical industrial complex people, when I mention this, they say it's because they don't have testing.

00:08:55.000 It's because they're covering it up.

00:08:57.000 It's because it's happening.

00:08:59.000 But unlike in America, you know, because we're so sophisticated, we know when we have the virus.

00:09:04.000 Is there any truth to that?

00:09:06.000 In fact, India is a very strong bureaucratic state.

00:09:10.000 They have tons of testing there.

00:09:12.000 Their positivity rate is 0.00030s before a 3%, the lowest out of, I want to make this clear.

00:09:20.000 It is the largest state in India.

00:09:23.000 People may never have heard of it, but it ropes in a little bit of Delhi and some urban areas.

00:09:27.000 It is the largest, most populous state in India, which is the second most populous country on earth, and it has the lowest positivity rate.

00:09:36.000 So that flies in the face of all the epidemiology we typically see, that the more urban an area is, the more it percolates.

00:09:43.000 They had plenty of cases, but when they started using ivermectin, they got it down.

00:09:47.000 And when they got it down, it's been, I would say, you know, July, August, September, October, four months, four months of flat line.

00:09:55.000 We don't have anywhere on earth where we have four months of flat line.

00:10:00.000 So that is what it looks like when you treat it and you treat it early.

00:10:04.000 There's no such thing as high risk, low risk, obese.

00:10:07.000 I mean, there is.

00:10:08.000 In fact, there's in, don't get me wrong, but it's a matter of treat it or not treat it.

00:10:13.000 We have an epidemic of the untreated.

00:10:17.000 That is the point.

00:10:19.000 And that's, and again, it's not ivermectin.

00:10:22.000 I want to make it very, I love ivermectin.

00:10:24.000 It's a matter, I could come up with 50 things.

00:10:27.000 In other words, someone has their, they call their PCP.

00:10:30.000 So the same PCP that's like, hey, I'm writing a letter to your kids' class.

00:10:35.000 No one, no two-year-old is allowed to be there unmasked when they don't have the virus, by the way.

00:10:41.000 But then that same physician, if a 70-year-old patient with cardiovascular disease and diabetes calls up and says, hey, I just tested positive for COVID.

00:10:51.000 Hey, no problem.

00:10:52.000 Wait until you can't breathe and then go to the hospital.

00:10:56.000 And we have some beautiful remdesivir waiting there for you at 3,000 a pop to cause renal failure and liver toxicity.

00:11:02.000 And they won't even prescribe.

00:11:04.000 There's a very nuanced drug that you might never have heard of.

00:11:08.000 It's called prednisone, right?

00:11:10.000 You know, we kind of prescribe that pretty often.

00:11:13.000 So, you know, if you got a guy with his blood oxygen level in the 70s, that's hard to deal with.

00:11:18.000 And that's what this thing has proven.

00:11:20.000 But if you get the blood oxygen, now, really, it should never even get there.

00:11:23.000 But let's say his blood oxygen level dips below 95.

00:11:27.000 That's where you need to come in with high-dose prednisone.

00:11:30.000 Just that alone, the steroids, we know it works.

00:11:33.000 And they do try to use it in the hospital, though, the wrong steroid at the wrong dosage.

00:11:38.000 But that's another story.

00:11:40.000 But that's when you got to do it.

00:11:42.000 They will not prescribe.

00:11:43.000 I've had doctors tell me that they'll have a patient who's not even COVID.

00:11:47.000 It's like a sinus infection or pneumonia, and they'll prescribe azithromycin and prednisone.

00:11:52.000 And the guy will say, That looks like a COVID protocol.

00:11:55.000 I'm not filling that.

00:11:57.000 So, so, you know, Charlie, this is the most revealing thing of the last 18 months, more so than the shots and the mask and the lockdown to the extent commensurate with how much you claim to care about COVID.

00:12:11.000 Oh my God, a two-year-old walking around without symptoms, he might have COVID.

00:12:15.000 He needs a mask.

00:12:16.000 Well, certainly if a guy got COVID, man, he has COVID.

00:12:19.000 Oh, my God, we bring up all the stuff and everything.

00:12:23.000 No, drop dead.

00:12:24.000 I don't want to hear from you because they don't care about COVID. 0.99

00:12:27.000 They don't want to treat it.

00:12:28.000 And not only don't they want to treat it, here's the deal: the most important thing, it's hard to review 18 months' worth.

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00:12:43.000 They want to make sure there is no control group.

00:12:47.000 And I don't mean control is in power that they want.

00:12:49.000 I mean, scientifically, a control group that does something different than what they're doing.

00:12:55.000 Because if you had one state where people ubiquitously early on were like, I got COVID, rather than test and trace, test and control, test and treat right away.

00:13:09.000 Like imagine you get a colonoscopy and like, hey, there's a bunch of polyps there.

00:13:13.000 Let's wait until it's stage four cancer. 0.90

00:13:16.000 Well, why treat it early when you can treat it later?

00:13:18.000 No, that's when you bomb away.

00:13:20.000 We don't, not a single person had to die from this after the first two, three weeks.

00:13:25.000 That is the biggest scandal.

00:13:27.000 They created the virus.

00:13:29.000 They threw us in a building, set it on fire, blocked all the exits, and then threw lighter fluid on it to make sure it would burn quickly.

00:13:38.000 That's the so-called vaccine and the remdesivir.

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00:16:59.000 Pandemic of the untreated.

00:17:02.000 And so, Daniel, in one of your pieces, if my memory serves me well, I'm going to dig it up.

00:17:07.000 You allude to the fact that this really is a regime that is being run by pharmaceutical companies, that this is about a small group of pharmaceutical companies that are calling the shots.

00:17:19.000 Is it that sinister?

00:17:20.000 Is it that diabolical, Daniel?

00:17:22.000 Or is there another explanation to this?

00:17:24.000 I mean, I think it's broader than that, but certainly one of the lead ships in that armada of the system, when you talk about the system, the cabal, the globalists, it's the pharmaceuticals.

00:17:34.000 And I love how you call it the Fauci virus.

00:17:37.000 China virus is really off message.

00:17:39.000 They likely knew about it and maybe they had some involvement.

00:17:42.000 This ain't the Chinese. 1.00

00:17:44.000 They used Wuan because it was off shores.

00:17:46.000 This was done by UNC, UNC Chapel Hill, Burrick, Jurassic, Fauci, and all the pharmaceuticals that were in it.

00:17:56.000 By the way, fun fact, UNC Chapel Hill, which is the ground zero for the Guinness Function Research for Coronaviruses, you know that they're the ones who had remdesivir.

00:18:04.000 Gilead somehow got a hold of it.

00:18:07.000 Look it up, UNC Remdesivir.

00:18:09.000 How is it that the only thing that was ever approved, which as I wrote yesterday, I have an article on this at the Blaze, NIH's own website says it causes liver toxicity and renal failure.

00:18:20.000 And we're seeing that with so many patients, which is why a lot of people come in moderate, you know, moderate COVID.

00:18:26.000 They should get over it, just like they go into the hospital with pneumonia every year.

00:18:30.000 COPD, we have this.

00:18:32.000 It's treatable and they die.

00:18:34.000 And it is the remdesivir.

00:18:37.000 It's one vicious cycle.

00:18:39.000 So they'll look at Ivermectin and say, we can't use that.

00:18:43.000 And they're like, okay, let's say we're wrong and it's a sugar pill, but it is literally safer than Tylenol.

00:18:48.000 It won the Nobel Prize.

00:18:49.000 Every piece of literature says it's well tolerated.

00:18:52.000 No one's ever had a problem.

00:18:53.000 Why not try it?

00:18:54.000 No, no, it's not enough.

00:18:55.000 So you're like, man, these guys are real sticklers.

00:18:57.000 And then you, but then you look to remdesivir and it has negative efficacy.

00:19:02.000 There's not a single study that says it works.

00:19:04.000 Not a single doctor that says it works.

00:19:06.000 Causes kidney.

00:19:07.000 You know, by the way, think about this.

00:19:09.000 They create a virus that causes liver failure and blood clots.

00:19:13.000 They created a shot that causes cardiovascular and hematological issues.

00:19:16.000 Then they to mop it up, to round out the organs, they create a therapeutic that causes kidney and liver failure.

00:19:27.000 And by the way, the other drug they use in the ICU is Olumient, O-L-U-M-I-N-T.

00:19:33.000 That's the brand name.

00:19:34.000 I can't pronounce the generic, so that's why I use Olumiant.

00:19:37.000 The brand name starts with a, the generic starts with a B. That's what you'll see in the media more often.

00:19:42.000 Do you know it has a black box FDA warning?

00:19:46.000 So that's a term of art.

00:19:47.000 It's very rare.

00:19:48.000 It's not like, you know, every drug is like, you might die, yada, yada, yada.

00:19:51.000 They have to put that on there.

00:19:52.000 This is a black box warning for you guessed it, Charlie.

00:19:56.000 Blood clots.

00:19:57.000 So you have a guy in a situation in the ICU where the most precarious thing that you're trying to avoid is a pulmonary embolism, blood clotting in the lungs, blood clotting elsewhere as well.

00:20:08.000 And the one thing they use causes, one thing causes kidney and liver failure.

00:20:14.000 The other thing causes blood clots.

00:20:17.000 You can't do this by accident.

00:20:20.000 And I've had lawyers on my podcast that have taken them to court and they testified in court that they advised the family to take the patient off of life support.

00:20:31.000 So bottom of the ninth inning, three outs, it's over.

00:20:35.000 They admit it's over.

00:20:36.000 So the family's like, could we please try ivermectin?

00:20:38.000 And they're like, it might cause problems.

00:20:41.000 And everyone, everyone laughs at that.

00:20:42.000 And by the way, this is a real case for Ralph LaRiga.

00:20:45.000 He's a Buffalo-based attorney that's done most of these ivermectin cases.

00:20:48.000 Now, you laugh, but it's not funny because they're serious.

00:20:52.000 What they mean when they say it's going to cause problems, remember what I told you.

00:20:56.000 They cannot afford to have a control group.

00:21:00.000 If you had people broadly being turned around on ventilators, it would expose the entire fraud of what they've been doing.

00:21:09.000 So it's kind of like where we are now is when the Navy SEALs surround the compound with the terrorists in it.

00:21:14.000 They don't give up.

00:21:16.000 They get more vicious and they slit the throats of the hostages then because they have to cover up all the evidence.

00:21:22.000 What we are in now is, it might have been to answer your question about control, about power, money, and that's all true.

00:21:30.000 But at this point, they have to make sure there's no control group.

00:21:36.000 Same thing with the vaccine.

00:21:37.000 But why?

00:21:38.000 Is it for ego or for prestige?

00:21:40.000 No, for because they'll get caught.

00:21:42.000 Because that's even more diabolical than making money.

00:21:45.000 That's that's it's like a well, it's a multi-million dollar, multi-million person criminal enterprise.

00:21:51.000 This is a criminal enterprise.

00:21:52.000 I cannot come up with another conclusion.

00:21:54.000 No, I agree.

00:21:55.000 It's just nice to hear someone as high as yours to say it out loud.

00:21:59.000 Think about this with the vaccine.

00:22:01.000 You know, in most areas, white-collar workers, you're talking about adults, it's 90-95% have gotten it.

00:22:10.000 I mean, they have been more successful than they could ever imagine.

00:22:13.000 Take yes for an answer.

00:22:15.000 They have to squeeze out the last 5%. 0.58

00:22:17.000 They can't have a control group that doesn't get the antibody-dependent disease enhancement that these people are going to likely get.

00:22:24.000 They can't afford that.

00:22:26.000 And this is why, like, you have federal workers that never step into the office, that they only work remotely, and they make them get it.

00:22:33.000 They already had the virus.

00:22:34.000 They make them get it.

00:22:35.000 It doesn't matter.

00:22:36.000 Everyone has to get this.

00:22:38.000 See, if they said, look, you know, we think this is generally good.

00:22:42.000 There's, you know, more side effects than we usually tolerate, but it's a pandemic.

00:22:46.000 We feel it's worth it.

00:22:47.000 These people we think should get it.

00:22:49.000 You know, if you already had it, then I wouldn't look any further.

00:22:52.000 But now that they're like, man, everyone needs to get it.

00:22:54.000 It's 100% effective.

00:22:56.000 Zero problems.

00:22:57.000 You know, then we know there's something about it.

00:23:01.000 And by the way, one fun fact that I don't know if you or your audience knows this, but you should.

00:23:05.000 Remember the Kilo case, eminent domain, New London, New Hampshire.

00:23:09.000 It's a 2005 Supreme Court case that established private use, eminent domain.

00:23:15.000 Do you know who the defendant was in that case?

00:23:17.000 Who is it?

00:23:18.000 Pfizer.

00:23:19.000 Oh, geez.

00:23:20.000 People don't realize it was Pfizer.

00:23:22.000 Now, it's still a vacant lot.

00:23:23.000 They never wound up using it.

00:23:25.000 But fun fact, Pfizer 16 years ago established your property, our choice.

00:23:31.000 16 years later, they've now established your body, our chores.

00:23:36.000 So what we're describing is one of the more frustrating chapters in American history, and people are wondering why is it we can't even speak about this?

00:23:43.000 And obviously, if you dare talk about it, you're suppressed.

00:23:46.000 I want to ask you a side note question.

00:23:47.000 You host the conservative review podcast.

00:23:50.000 Have you been disappointed at how few conservatives have been willing to talk about this and instead pander to the pharmaceutical industries and basically be employees and shills of AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson, and Pfizer?

00:24:03.000 Man, Charlie, I got to be careful here.

00:24:08.000 Why?

00:24:09.000 So, you know, like you, like you, I got into this at a young age.

00:24:15.000 I got a few years on you.

00:24:17.000 So I've been doing this a while, but I'm not certainly not that old.

00:24:20.000 And I promised myself I'm not going to do this the rest of my life.

00:24:26.000 Meaning, I was like anyone else.

00:24:29.000 I was like, yay, team red.

00:24:31.000 How many seats?

00:24:33.000 Next election.

00:24:33.000 Okay, 54 seats in the Senate.

00:24:35.000 Okay, when the next election.

00:24:35.000 Okay.

00:24:36.000 And then after a couple of cycles, like I kind of learned, oh, this is a fraud.

00:24:40.000 I mean, I woke up.

00:24:42.000 Okay, the Republican Party is a joke. 0.51

00:24:44.000 Yes.

00:24:44.000 They're bought out.

00:24:46.000 There's maybe a handful of good guys that use it for ballot access because they have nowhere else to go. 0.99

00:24:50.000 But aside from that, it's tweetle de tweedle dumb. 0.87

00:24:52.000 And what we are doing is not working. 0.95

00:24:55.000 And I said to myself, I don't earn a lot of money in this.

00:24:58.000 If I wanted to do it, I would go into something else.

00:25:00.000 And if I'm going to do this, it's got to make a difference.

00:25:03.000 And it frustrated me that on any measure, since I got into this, the pre, you know, the 2000s, the first decade, professionally, on any measure, fiscal, I remember writing press releases for people in the Tea Party wave.

00:25:17.000 It was unconscionable.

00:25:18.000 We reached 12 trillion in debt.

00:25:20.000 And it shocked the mind.

00:25:23.000 The levels of Obama spending that first time, it shocked the mind.

00:25:25.000 And now we would die to go back then.

00:25:27.000 The level of people on Medicaid and food stamps socially, like we didn't even know what the word transgender was.

00:25:35.000 And we thought we were losing our values.

00:25:38.000 You know, illegal immigration, culture, anything.

00:25:43.000 Name me one thing.

00:25:45.000 We are better off than we were.

00:25:47.000 And now I'm talking about February 2020.

00:25:51.000 Now it's the fourth Reich. 0.96

00:25:53.000 I mean, that's not even, that's obvious.

00:25:56.000 This is an emergency, but I've done that even before COVID.

00:25:59.000 But what I found throughout my career is this, and I'm going to get to COVID, but what I found throughout my career is 99% of conservative organizations and individuals, they will never fight the issue that matters at the time it matters and in the way it matters.

00:26:18.000 So, you know, it's not that they'll necessarily be out of sync ideologically broadly, but they'll wave the flag.

00:26:25.000 I'm pro-gun, I'm pro-life.

00:26:28.000 And it's like, okay, well, what does that do for me at that given moment?

00:26:32.000 By the way, when we have opportunities for those issues, they're usually chasing another squirrel, right?

00:26:37.000 So it's always another issue.

00:26:38.000 It's always something else.

00:26:40.000 And it's like, look, I never thought I'd talk about ivermectin and pulmonary inflammation, cytokines storms, and, you know, how to deal with this.

00:26:48.000 But that's what you're confronted with.

00:26:50.000 I mean, my entire podcast the last half a year has turned into a medical show getting people treatment.

00:27:00.000 I lost the 30-year-old and I promised myself I'll leave no man behind.

00:27:04.000 Well, and I, you know, I laugh.

00:27:06.000 I mean, thanks to people I know, we've connected to people to life-saving treatment, and we have, and I'm proud of that.

00:27:12.000 But this is a fourth world country.

00:27:14.000 Udhar Pradesh is a third world country where they don't have the resources.

00:27:19.000 God gave us the resources.

00:27:20.000 We flushed it.

00:27:22.000 And we made something that was pennies on the dollar now expensive and people can't get it.

00:27:26.000 In the United States of America, you cannot get azithromycin.

00:27:30.000 You can't get prednisone.

00:27:32.000 You can't get a nebulizer with butcinide.

00:27:37.000 But even the doctors that do it, they're getting their licenses yanks now.

00:27:41.000 I mean, the pharmacies won't prescribe.

00:27:44.000 And the problem with all these conservative people is like most of them really have been MIA from the lockdowns to the mask to the shots head on.

00:27:54.000 That's if they're not downright on the wrong side of the issue, which some of them are.

00:27:58.000 But I'm saying the ones that aren't downright on the wrong side of the issue, they're never focused on it.

00:28:03.000 And, you know, look, this all started where?

00:28:07.000 It started in the States.

00:28:08.000 You know, we're like, oh, Biden, Biden.

00:28:10.000 But the reality is this started in the States.

00:28:13.000 And I will tell you, there is not a single state where you have medical freedom.

00:28:19.000 Not a single state where the hospitals are not committing genocide.

00:28:23.000 Not a single state where doctors freely prescribe and pharmacists freely fill.

00:28:27.000 Not a single state where they're putting the money into what works.

00:28:31.000 Florida's the best grading on a curve, but still, I mean, you know, at least you have the monoclonals are pretty well dispatched there. 0.77

00:28:39.000 But the money is not being spent in any state where it should be.

00:28:43.000 The policies, there's not a single state where we're protected from the private sector.

00:28:48.000 And we could talk about that mandates.

00:28:51.000 And, you know, I've been harping on this.

00:28:53.000 Republicans have the trifecta in 23 states.

00:28:56.000 They have super majorities in 23 in 19 states.

00:28:59.000 There's a number of them I've been dealing with this week.

00:29:01.000 Arkansas, Idaho, they have like four to one majorities. 0.81

00:29:05.000 So we're promised, we need to win the midterm elections.

00:29:09.000 Okay, so you have a narrow rhino majority in Congress. 0.91

00:29:11.000 I'll do you one better.

00:29:12.000 I'll give you four to one.

00:29:14.000 Hey, actually, no, Charlie, I'll give you a 28 to 2 majority in the Wyoming Senate. 0.90

00:29:19.000 And we have a 16-year-old girl in the freaking state of Wyoming being arrested for not covering her breathing orifices.

00:29:27.000 So we can't even have a degree of post-constitutional tyranny to the level of February 2020 in the freaking state of Wyoming with a 28 to 2 majority. 0.94

00:29:37.000 And you know why?

00:29:39.000 I know we can't influence Biden, but I'll tell you, if we had all of our voices going after Governor Mark Gordon in Wyoming and Brad Little in Idaho and Asa Hutchinson in Arkansas, boy, he can make a sir.

00:29:56.000 He is the worst. 0.95

00:29:57.000 He is a joke. 1.00

00:29:58.000 He is a whore for big business. 1.00

00:30:01.000 Walmart, Tyson's, J.B. Hunt own that. 0.99

00:30:04.000 And basically what we have now, by the way, Charlie, we have worse than socialism is not it.

00:30:11.000 It's this government-induced corporate totalitarianism.

00:30:16.000 So it's the worst of all ends.

00:30:18.000 You have the utter greed of the private sector, but you don't have the check and balance of the free market because government, through a scheme of taxation, regulation, litigation, subsidization, gave them a monopoly.

00:30:31.000 And then now they downright mandate the shot.

00:30:34.000 So then you have no safety guardrails.

00:30:36.000 See, normally I'm for it. 0.99

00:30:37.000 You can make whatever crap you want. 0.98

00:30:39.000 I'm fine to go back to that. 0.98

00:30:41.000 Except the problem is government brings them into the FDA.

00:30:44.000 You know, it's one revolving door.

00:30:46.000 They're closer with Pfizer than DOD is with Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman and all that.

00:30:52.000 Oh, yeah.

00:30:53.000 It's a cesspool.

00:30:54.000 And now they have the ability to mandate it on us.

00:30:57.000 So, you have this conduit where you and I can elect the board of Pfizer, but they're more powerful than anything else, and they control us.

00:31:08.000 So, in some ways, it's worse than the traditional socialism where you maybe could have some degree of democratic process a little bit.

00:31:15.000 Here, they Pfizer, if Pfizer calls a shot, they get it.

00:31:20.000 There's nothing they could do, there is nothing that could happen now that could get the shots off the market.

00:31:28.000 There is nothing, there is no degree of mayhem from it.

00:31:32.000 There are no safety nets, there's no safety guardrails, they've been ripped off.

00:31:38.000 It doesn't matter. 0.99

00:31:40.000 It's shut up. 0.97

00:31:41.000 I don't want to hear it.

00:31:44.000 And I look, you know, my whole career was made off of illegal immigration, by the way, and it's worse than it's ever been. 0.77

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00:32:58.000 So you're a faithful Jew, and you're to use the word genocide's a big word.

00:33:06.000 Yes.

00:33:06.000 Tell us why.

00:33:08.000 Because I've seen it firsthand.

00:33:10.000 It was the treatment that I couldn't imagine.

00:33:13.000 I, you know, where they literally will block all treatments.

00:33:19.000 They'll have people go around the hospitals, confiscate the ivermectin, confiscate any other supplements they have.

00:33:28.000 They will lock people out of it, you know, families out of the ICUs. 0.98

00:33:36.000 They are doing everything they can to systematically find what works and then ban it.

00:33:42.000 So they're going after the Budesini, the, well, they're going after that too, but the Betadyne nasal irrigation.

00:33:48.000 Just for your audience, the most important thing, you're around people.

00:33:51.000 You want to come back.

00:33:52.000 Masks actually grow your viral load.

00:33:54.000 You go and shoot up a betadyne solution 1%.

00:33:57.000 You buy it 10%, dilute it with distilled water, make it 1%.

00:34:01.000 Like it's the research behind it is insane.

00:34:04.000 19-fold decrease in hospitalizations because the viral load is the key and you got to reduce that early.

00:34:11.000 They made fun out of it.

00:34:12.000 Time magazine had a hit on it.

00:34:13.000 They had a hit piece on hydrogen peroxide in the nebulizer.

00:34:17.000 And now they had a hit piece on phenofiberate.

00:34:20.000 And now they have a hit on aspirin because they found out that, you know, the Washington University study that it reduces mortality by 47% because the blood clotting does a lot of people in.

00:34:31.000 They might survive the pulmonary, but the blood clotting will do them in.

00:34:36.000 And two days later, they're like 70 years of research with aspirin and heart attacks because they have to make sure not only do you not take it for COVID, but they're like, damn, there's people who are taking it anyway for other stuff.

00:34:49.000 We got to get them off of it. 0.96

00:34:51.000 They are finding every way to possibly kill people.

00:34:54.000 Think about it, Charlie.

00:34:56.000 They said this is, this started 15 days to flatten the curve of what?

00:35:01.000 Of hospitalizations.

00:35:03.000 Why in the world would you have an embargo on outpatient treatment?

00:35:08.000 Think about that.

00:35:09.000 They're making sure you have no other option but to go to the hospital.

00:35:13.000 Why would you do that?

00:35:15.000 Why?

00:35:16.000 It makes no sense.

00:35:17.000 You have pneumonia, COVID pneumonia, pneumonia.

00:35:20.000 They'll give you a butyrol or be decenite in a nebulizer.

00:35:23.000 They'll give you the antibiotic because a lot of times you wind up getting bacterial pneumonia.

00:35:26.000 They'll give you prednisone and other methylpred steroids.

00:35:30.000 Why?

00:35:31.000 Why wouldn't you do that?

00:35:36.000 If you wanted people to die, they cannot afford a control group because the bottom line is, let me tell you this.

00:35:45.000 You know, I'm very provocative.

00:35:46.000 I'm very hardcore.

00:35:47.000 I'll hit people on the right even.

00:35:49.000 I don't know if you're true.

00:35:50.000 You tell the truth.

00:35:51.000 I'll tell you when you get provocative.

00:35:53.000 But my point is, my point is, you know, generally speaking, I'm not such a big fish, so I don't get that much blowback.

00:36:01.000 Masks.

00:36:03.000 If I said what you said, I'd have a fun week.

00:36:07.000 You'd have a very fun week.

00:36:08.000 So I get away with it usually.

00:36:10.000 Masks were the biggest idolatry ever. 0.95

00:36:13.000 Like there was not, and I kicked that thing in the nuts more than anyone. 0.97

00:36:16.000 I had more articles on that more comprehensively earlier than anyone else.

00:36:21.000 And okay, it was a little bit whatever.

00:36:23.000 But then when I hit the early treatment, which you'd think would kind of be more universal, like we're not attacking the shots or the mask or the lockdown, just saying, hey, like COVID is a big deal.

00:36:32.000 Like, let's shake hands.

00:36:32.000 We agree.

00:36:34.000 We're all in this together.

00:36:35.000 Let's get it treated.

00:36:36.000 Like the visceral response, and that's when it hit me.

00:36:40.000 That's the lynch.

00:36:42.000 Because here's the deal.

00:36:43.000 If from day one, we would have listened to Zolenko and Peter McCullough and these guys and Ryan Cole and we would have treated this just early, 99% of the deaths would have been avoided, and people would have gotten it.

00:36:56.000 They would have gotten over it easily.

00:36:58.000 They wouldn't have feared it.

00:36:59.000 And the entire empire, this hellish empire reset that they have built off of it.

00:37:05.000 Let me just give you one random thing a lot of people probably haven't thought of.

00:37:09.000 All the things they tried to push and they couldn't successfully do, like global warming.

00:37:14.000 You know, everyone's like, I, you know, 70% of people believe in it, but not really.

00:37:17.000 Like, they don't care.

00:37:18.000 You know, this, this is their issue.

00:37:21.000 This people feared.

00:37:22.000 You, you get someone to fear for their lives.

00:37:24.000 They will put their fellow men in an oven. 1.00

00:37:28.000 They will, they will get that vicious.

00:37:29.000 And we're seeing this viciousness. 1.00

00:37:32.000 They believe we deserve to die. 0.93

00:37:35.000 That viciousness, you get them onto that. 0.91

00:37:37.000 So they had to get people to fear it.

00:37:40.000 They wouldn't have feared it.

00:37:42.000 But for example, I talk about crime a lot.

00:37:45.000 They tried to reduce, you know, let out criminals, and it was kind of slow.

00:37:50.000 They have let out hundreds of thousands of people without firing a shot from this.

00:37:55.000 They've, they've, everything is COVID.

00:37:57.000 All they have to do is say COVID and they get whatever they want.

00:38:01.000 Why would they want that to end?

00:38:03.000 They don't want the pandemic to end because if you did, you would have treated it.

00:38:07.000 And now you have all these, you know, viral enhancement and the virus is getting stronger and stronger the more we play around with it and it's coming harder and harder to deal with it.

00:38:18.000 We could have, I mean, you know, the iteration we had pre-July.

00:38:22.000 I call it the Pfizer variant because that's when the leaky vaccine syndrome broke out.

00:38:27.000 This thing was a joke.

00:38:28.000 And when I say a joke, I don't mean there weren't people who died, but I mean to treat it.

00:38:32.000 It's like you give someone one thing within like, and you could stew for 10, 12 days sometimes.

00:38:39.000 It was over.

00:38:40.000 Now you got to hit it early.

00:38:41.000 You've got to hit it multi-drug.

00:38:43.000 You know, this thing's a real beast.

00:38:46.000 So let me, so let's just, let's just reiterate in this, and I know we touched on this, and this is the other article I want to talk, talk about in the time we have remaining.

00:38:55.000 Has the vaccine made things worse?

00:39:01.000 So, Charlie, I don't understand how we could escape that conclusion.

00:39:06.000 None of us, including myself, I never believed this.

00:39:09.000 I thought like I knew it had problems.

00:39:12.000 I knew there were a lot of problems with it.

00:39:14.000 It never entered my mind that it would totally bomb out and wouldn't be effective.

00:39:19.000 I didn't trust them.

00:39:21.000 And in my mind, okay, so the few cases will have, you know, a few cases.

00:39:25.000 We thought in the South, you'll get a little bit of the Hope-Simpson curve.

00:39:28.000 They get the Southern latitudes, a little bit of a bump, but it will be the remaining people who didn't get it and didn't get the shot, and mainly older people.

00:39:35.000 And then, and I just want to preface that with something.

00:39:39.000 So the data is, I'm not even going to go over it because everyone agrees.

00:39:42.000 Like, let me just say in Florida, there was a 94% increase in mortality in August of this year versus August of last year, with many more people already having had it, plus zero people were vaccinated then.

00:39:54.000 Israel is almost a punchline. 0.99

00:39:59.000 You just see this everywhere.

00:40:00.000 It's qualitatively, quantitatively, much, much worse than it's ever been.

00:40:05.000 Now, they'll tell you it's the Delta.

00:40:08.000 No, that's because it was the Delta, as if that was bound to happen no matter what.

00:40:12.000 And boy, is it great we had the vaccine because without that, man, we would have had it even worse.

00:40:17.000 So now I want to preface this by saying it's interesting that right before this hell broke out around July is when around May is when they branded it Alpha Beta Gamma Delta.

00:40:31.000 So until then, it was a geographical distinction.

00:40:33.000 It was the Kent English variant, the South African, the Brazilian, and then the Indian one was what they made Delta. 0.90

00:40:40.000 It's kind of interesting because that's like that's confined.

00:40:45.000 So this, you make it as a global like progression as if it naturally was going to go from alpha beta gamma delta.

00:40:51.000 It's like they need it.

00:40:52.000 The new hope, empire strikes back, return of the Jedi, Force Awakens.

00:40:55.000 It's like eventually we're going to get to the sequences of the sequel.

00:41:00.000 Go ahead.

00:41:01.000 But we caught them.

00:41:02.000 We caught them red-handed.

00:41:04.000 In India, Delta was very transmissible, but their death rate is one-eighth that of the U.S.

00:41:10.000 Then it went to England.

00:41:11.000 England had a way and Western European countries to a lesser extent, but they had it. 0.99

00:41:17.000 But the reason why I say England, England had the wave when?

00:41:21.000 In May, May into June.

00:41:23.000 Okay, it's a very important point because Israeli data now, U.S. data shows this too, and studies, it leaks around the five to six month mark.

00:41:33.000 That's when it wears off.

00:41:34.000 And no one disagrees.

00:41:36.000 Hence, they're saying you need the boosters, but no one disagrees with that.

00:41:42.000 England got it before the leakiness.

00:41:45.000 Okay.

00:41:46.000 So we were able to see what Delta is, what it would have been like before the leakiness, that leaky vaccine syndrome.

00:41:56.000 And guess what?

00:41:57.000 It was so weak that the media, you could Google it, Delta England cold.

00:42:04.000 And they were complaining like people are running around not getting tested because they think they have a cold.

00:42:08.000 That's how you can miss it.

00:42:10.000 So it was a little bit more transmissible.

00:42:12.000 Public Health England has the best granular data every Thursday.

00:42:16.000 It's published in the entire world.

00:42:18.000 It was a little bit more transmissible, mainly in the households.

00:42:22.000 So everyone would get it in the household, but much less virulent.

00:42:26.000 That's called Mueller's ratchet.

00:42:28.000 It's a microbio biological theory that the virus wants to survive so it gets more transmissible so it can hop around.

00:42:36.000 But then if it kills its host, it can't hop around as much.

00:42:39.000 So it's either like Ebola, HIV, very deadly, not so transmissible only through bodily fluids, or it's like a cold.

00:42:46.000 Okay, and fine.

00:42:48.000 Then it came to the America South and we were like, yeah, this is a joke.

00:42:52.000 This is going to be the decoupling of deaths from cases.

00:42:55.000 And it was pure hell.

00:42:57.000 Like everyone I knew, this thing was freaking Ebola that spread like a cold.

00:43:01.000 It roped in younger people.

00:43:03.000 I was getting emails like last year.

00:43:04.000 What do I do?

00:43:05.000 My father's on a ventilator.

00:43:06.000 You know, they're giving me horrible treatment.

00:43:08.000 Now it's my kids on a ventilator.

00:43:10.000 My son's on a vent.

00:43:11.000 It was horrible, horrible what went on there.

00:43:14.000 That was right around the marker of the leakiness.

00:43:18.000 Why do I say that?

00:43:19.000 A man named Gert Von den Bosch was probably the greatest vaccinologist of our generation.

00:43:27.000 He worked for Bill Gates, for Gavi.

00:43:29.000 His whole life was spreading vaccine.

00:43:31.000 It went over my head at the time, but we saw it.

00:43:34.000 We saw he was right. 0.53

00:43:36.000 He said, wait a minute, we're arguing about blood clots, side effects, and that's what to do.

00:43:42.000 But he says there's a macro epidemiological microbio evolutionary side effect that no one's talking about.

00:43:53.000 If you mass vaccinate in the middle of an ongoing pandemic, particularly with a narrow spectrum, suboptimal antibodies that are half-assed, it's like having your weakest member of the gang go up to the opposing gang with your weapons.

00:44:13.000 You know what's going to happen?

00:44:14.000 He's going to take your lunch money and it's going to gobble up those antibodies and you have antibody disease enhancement.

00:44:23.000 The lacky, the leaky.

00:44:24.000 I want your audience.

00:44:25.000 We don't have time to go into this.

00:44:26.000 I want your audience to Google PBS 2015 Merrick's disease leaky chicken vaccine.

00:44:35.000 And you read that article and I was losing people.

00:44:39.000 I was losing people.

00:44:41.000 I read that and I got goosebumps.

00:44:42.000 I was like, oh my gosh, that's what just happened to humans.

00:44:45.000 Basically, they had a leaky chicken vaccine for Merrick's disease in chicken vaccine.

00:44:48.000 Chickenpox vaccine or just chicken vaccine?

00:44:51.000 No, chicken vaccine in chickens.

00:44:53.000 We vaccinated.

00:44:54.000 I didn't know we vaccinated chickens.

00:44:55.000 That's new to me.

00:44:56.000 Yeah, there was something called Merrick's disease.

00:44:59.000 It was a very virulent disease.

00:45:00.000 And what happened was it was a leaky vaccine, meaning it protected the chickens that got it from severe illness, but it did not, it was called an imperfect vaccine.

00:45:16.000 It was not self-sterilizing.

00:45:18.000 So it did not stop transmission.

00:45:21.000 So what happened was all the unvaccinated chickens died like within days.

00:45:26.000 They got around it.

00:45:27.000 They hosed them.

00:45:28.000 So all these SOBs that said, oh, it's the unvaccinated harming the vaccinated, that could never happen because either it works or it doesn't.

00:45:36.000 You can't affect a vaccinated person.

00:45:38.000 It was the vaccinated running up the viral load. 0.99

00:45:42.000 They explained this.

00:45:43.000 And by the way, they say in the article, if this were ever to happen with humans, the first sign will be if the vaccine only stops illness and not transmission.

00:45:52.000 And they're like championing that as if that's a good thing.

00:45:55.000 Now, by the way, now, three months later, it's leaked so much, it stopped even the efficacy against serious illness.

00:46:01.000 Hence, most of the people in the hospital getting seriously ill are vaccinated as well.

00:46:04.000 But at the time, I want to make this very clear: July, August was the worst pandemic we ever had.

00:46:12.000 Worse than New York City, Florida, Arkansas, parts of Texas.

00:46:16.000 That was that, like, you know, you know, when you're choking and it's like the worst part where you can't get it down, but you can't spit it up.

00:46:24.000 That's kind of what it was.

00:46:26.000 It was that month where it was working on the vaccinated for serious illness.

00:46:32.000 It is true.

00:46:33.000 When it started, when the wave started, most of the people dying were unvaccinated, but that was caused by the vaccine.

00:46:40.000 By now, it's fully leaked.

00:46:42.000 And, you know, then it went down to serious illness and death.

00:46:44.000 And hence, I just did a report on my show from Rhode Island from Andy Bostom of Brown University.

00:46:51.000 In September, 83% of the deaths were from vaccinated people.

00:46:57.000 You're being lied to when they say most of the people, it's not.

00:47:00.000 It was true initially, but that's the bad thing.

00:47:03.000 It was a harbinger of a leaky vaccine.

00:47:05.000 So when you say, oh, let's just keep boostering, that's not cost-free.

00:47:10.000 You're going to, you know, you know what it's like?

00:47:12.000 You know what it reminds me?

00:47:13.000 In the prisons now, so they love the criminals.

00:47:16.000 So they want to make sure they're as jacked up and as strong as possible when they release them to beat people up.

00:47:22.000 So they have all these weight rooms.

00:47:23.000 I'm not kidding you.

00:47:24.000 They're like, they work out and everything.

00:47:26.000 You're giving the virus a workout.

00:47:30.000 It's like shooting at the king and missing.

00:47:33.000 The worst thing you can do is shoot at the virus with a crappy vaccine and miss because then it gets stronger.

00:47:41.000 Do you know what happened, Charlie?

00:47:43.000 They created the virus that they said existed, that didn't exist, now exists.

00:47:49.000 In other words, it transmits asymptomatically, which it wasn't before.

00:47:52.000 It's roping in even younger people to a certain extent.

00:47:57.000 Kids aren't getting pulmonary, but they are getting bad flus, whereas before it was a joke.

00:48:02.000 Not all of them, but some of them are.

00:48:04.000 This thing is bad.

00:48:05.000 You got to get it treated.

00:48:06.000 You got to get prophylaxis.

00:48:08.000 And, you know, we've come full circle.

00:48:12.000 Everything they accused us of doing, they actually went ahead and did.

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00:51:02.000 And yet, conservatives and Republicans are still pushing the vaccine despite all the evidence around them.

00:51:07.000 They say it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

00:51:10.000 And I want to close on this note, Daniel.

00:51:12.000 I want to be respectful of your time.

00:51:16.000 How do you personally process how we have people living in absolutely different universes as if there's a different existence occurring?

00:51:25.000 It's maddening for me, quite honestly.

00:51:27.000 I just decide just to keep telling the truth and keep moving forward.

00:51:30.000 But when I see Republicans that are coming up, they say, oh, no, the vaccine is the greatest thing ever.

00:51:34.000 It's actually, you know, it's preventing all the harm and suffering.

00:51:38.000 Meanwhile, we look at the United Kingdom, 223 COVID deaths today, highest daily number of deaths since March.

00:51:46.000 79% of the population, 12 and older, is fully vaccinated.

00:51:51.000 How do we process this alternate reality within our own within our own world?

00:51:58.000 And by the way, Charlie, it's interesting.

00:52:00.000 England, as I said, same Delta as it was the first Delta wave in May, now is very problematic.

00:52:06.000 That's after the five, six-month Pfizer leakage benchmark, just so you know.

00:52:11.000 So that's actually a very good example of what I'm talking about.

00:52:14.000 Now they are getting a problem.

00:52:15.000 They are, by the way, luckier than the American South because they got the benefits of the transmissibility of Delta earlier on the cheap.

00:52:23.000 So they do have more built-up immunity.

00:52:25.000 They're not going to have as many deaths as we did, but they are having problems.

00:52:28.000 How do I square this?

00:52:30.000 Look, you read the Johns Hopkins papers over the last decade, and now I'm getting into this.

00:52:36.000 Peter Bregan has an amazing book on this that traces the timeline.

00:52:39.000 And they've been working on this forever.

00:52:42.000 And at the end of the book, he literally has a timeline.

00:52:44.000 And I'm shocked.

00:52:45.000 Like, it is shocking the stuff they it's creepy, the stuff they talk about.

00:52:49.000 They talk about PR campaigns.

00:52:51.000 It's a psyop.

00:52:53.000 So you either get it or you're a victim of it.

00:52:55.000 It's not surprising.

00:52:57.000 You know, you go everywhere and this is what you see.

00:53:00.000 And the problem is, as Gert von denbach says, they allow people to look at a snapshot of that second, of that second.

00:53:08.000 So you don't see a before and after in a continuity.

00:53:10.000 So hence, all these Republicans notice that they're always good at 2020 in hindsight.

00:53:15.000 So when it was the mask, they were finally like, yeah, lockdowns are bad.

00:53:20.000 But lockdowns were kind of over then.

00:53:22.000 And the fight was the mask and they were pro-mask.

00:53:24.000 Then when the fight was the vaccine, they were like, they finally got on board the mask.

00:53:29.000 I mean, to a certain extent, these guys, by the way, and I'm not going to mention names, but you know what I'm talking about.

00:53:35.000 It's like clockwork.

00:53:36.000 And then, and then now they're finally like against the vaccine mandates, but they're not onto the early treatment.

00:53:42.000 They're not onto it.

00:53:43.000 They're always a day late and a dollar short.

00:53:46.000 They're always fighting yesterday's battle when it no longer matters.

00:53:49.000 Yes.

00:53:49.000 I mean, this is the problem with these guys.

00:53:52.000 They're always when patriots like us jump in the sea and when it's hard, and then we make it to the point where it's kosher to talk about and it's not like you know, like extreme, then they're able to kind of dip their toe in that water.

00:54:07.000 Um, but that's the thing.

00:54:08.000 People don't, I mean, it works, they control, they censor.

00:54:11.000 Think about it.

00:54:12.000 Do you understand the amount of studies that have been censored about things that work, things that don't work?

00:54:18.000 Um, do you like, for example, there's been people, there's a simple study you can do that would blow this wide open.

00:54:25.000 It's called a D-dimer test.

00:54:28.000 And basically, a CT scan could only pick up a large blood clot.

00:54:33.000 You know, you can't miss it.

00:54:34.000 You're going to feel that the symptoms right away.

00:54:36.000 But there's something called micro clotting.

00:54:39.000 And that's not going to be picked up on CT scan.

00:54:41.000 And you're not going to notice it for a number of months and perhaps a number of years, but it ain't good.

00:54:47.000 And if you would run D-dimer tests and if you have high D-dimer levels, that means that there's microclotting going on in your blood.

00:54:56.000 Why aren't we doing those studies?

00:54:57.000 Well, I'll tell you, because you won't get money for it.

00:55:01.000 And let's say you're an entrepreneur and scientist.

00:55:03.000 You're just curious.

00:55:05.000 Well, what are you going to do if the results are not what you want them to be?

00:55:09.000 You're screwed because you're not going to get published.

00:55:12.000 And if you try to put it on maybe a lower-level or one of the pre-printing servers, pre-print servers, you're done.

00:55:22.000 Like, I destroyed a Harvard guy recently by citing, he did a study looking at 65 different countries and 3,000 counties and found no R-squared correlation and actually negative correlation between vaccination rates and case rates.

00:55:37.000 And I just, I didn't even, I'm a commentary guy, but I just pretty much just block quoted it.

00:55:43.000 And he got the media went to, he's like, no, no, that's not what I meant.

00:55:47.000 We meant the you also have to wash your hands with the vaccine.

00:55:52.000 But that wasn't his what's happening.

00:55:55.000 So there's, I call it unnatural selection.

00:56:00.000 There's unnatural selection.

00:56:01.000 So everyone's going to hear of the conservative talk show host that didn't get vaccinated and died.

00:56:07.000 Now, mine, mine, right?

00:56:09.000 But they'll never hear about all of the vaccinated people that were hospitalized from the vaccine and then got COVID and were hospitalized from COVID.

00:56:17.000 And the common denominator between both of them is that they didn't get proper early treatment.

00:56:22.000 You know, so it wears down people.

00:56:26.000 And I think, Charlie, our, and I think you'll agree with me, our challenge is this.

00:56:31.000 This is the most destructive public policy issue of all time, the most radical issue of all time.

00:56:37.000 But it's the issue that actually drove a spike between our in our coalition more than anything.

00:56:43.000 Yes.

00:56:43.000 You take any other issue and you can know where people stand.

00:56:47.000 If you're this, that, I know people in my life, like my whole, they'll be, Daniel, what's up with politics?

00:56:53.000 And they're so into it and this and that.

00:56:55.000 And on this, they won't allow you in their home if you're not vaccinated.

00:56:58.000 That's right.

00:56:59.000 Okay.

00:56:59.000 And you know this.

00:57:00.000 There's a lot of people like that.

00:57:02.000 Like, you know, it's kind of like a Super Bowl.

00:57:05.000 You have the two-week lead up, the cheerleaders, and the trash talk. 0.99

00:57:10.000 And then we get to the Super Bowl.

00:57:11.000 I'm for limited government and liberty.

00:57:14.000 Dude, what we've been fighting our whole careers doesn't matter.

00:57:17.000 I mean, it wasn't great.

00:57:18.000 We had cronyism.

00:57:19.000 We're pretty much free people.

00:57:21.000 This is, I mean, Charlie, we don't have a right to life.

00:57:27.000 I mean, you have no way of getting treatment, of living.

00:57:32.000 Like, they're killing our people, even before you get to the vaccine, just from the virus.

00:57:38.000 I have no problem.

00:57:39.000 Our people are trying to downplay.

00:57:40.000 I'm like, no, this is a serious virus.

00:57:42.000 It's a bioweapon.

00:57:43.000 God didn't create it.

00:57:44.000 It's not God's blemish.

00:57:46.000 It's his son's, as it says at the end of Deuteronomy.

00:57:50.000 He didn't create this.

00:57:51.000 Part of why initially I didn't think it could be this bad is because we were right.

00:57:56.000 You don't have a broadly circulating respiratory virus that's so problematic, and you don't have it.

00:58:02.000 They created it.

00:58:04.000 It was an act of man.

00:58:05.000 Last question, Daniel.

00:58:06.000 What can people do about this?

00:58:08.000 Because people are losing patience.

00:58:10.000 Okay.

00:58:11.000 Here's what I'm doing.

00:58:14.000 The country's gone.

00:58:16.000 Okay.

00:58:16.000 I mean, it is.

00:58:18.000 It's gone.

00:58:20.000 The question is: could we take areas that are 70, 30, 80, 20 Trump and instill the will of the silent majority on the political players?

00:58:31.000 Because right now, we don't have a single rights state in this country, but there's potential.

00:58:35.000 There's potential.

00:58:37.000 A lot of the state legislatures are about to meet for redistricting for special session, and even the general session is only a few months away.

00:58:45.000 This is our time.

00:58:46.000 This is our moment.

00:58:48.000 If you had everyone flooding the state legislators with saying you better do this and not do this, the bills on the mandates, the bills on protecting early treatment, going after the healthcare cartel, all the medical freedom stuff.

00:59:04.000 Okay.

00:59:06.000 If we had people yelping at them, again, if you're in Arkansas, all you hear from is Tyson's, J.B. Hunt, and Walmart.

00:59:13.000 You don't, you could tell me it's a super majority conservative state all you want, but that doesn't matter.

00:59:19.000 You got to equal the playing field.

00:59:21.000 I have an organization I started, Constitution Action Network.

00:59:26.000 It's conaction.network.

00:59:28.000 It's not an organization.

00:59:29.000 There's no overhead.

00:59:30.000 All it is is the audience of my show.

00:59:32.000 I had them mail in their address and we divided them by state teams.

00:59:36.000 And we just need, we need people to volunteer to be leaders.

00:59:39.000 We have enough people.

00:59:40.000 We need coordinators to help coordinate them. 0.98

00:59:43.000 And you have 40, 50 people, and you have one person right, a couple people who are familiar with the legislative calendar.

00:59:49.000 You know, for example, Senate Bill 193 in Iowa is the national gold standard.

00:59:55.000 It is the most comprehensive anti-fascism bill.

00:59:58.000 It covers insurers, public accommodations.

01:00:01.000 It bans discrimination everywhere.

01:00:04.000 That bill needs to be passed in Iowa.

01:00:05.000 It needs to be passed everywhere.

01:00:07.000 This is where it's at.

01:00:09.000 We're not going to do anything at a national level.

01:00:11.000 We need a national divorce. 1.00

01:00:13.000 But before you get a national divorce, you need to make state legislatures great again. 1.00

01:00:18.000 You need to make red states red again.

01:00:20.000 And we would have had a national divorce, by the way, a long time ago. 0.97

01:00:23.000 The reason we haven't is because all the crap is on the same side. 0.98

01:00:27.000 They're all the same. 0.96

01:00:28.000 These red state governors, most of them, but if you promoted that contrast, if you made red states as unhospitable for the left to live in as blue states are for our people, aka you don't invite in businesses, give them corporate welfare, and then allow them to hang you with that rope and then promote their culture and then promote totalitarianism in your state.

01:00:53.000 You actually make it a true red state.

01:00:55.000 And actually, if anything, maybe you say, hey, look, sink or swim, buddy.

01:00:59.000 It's either the California taxes or you play by our rules.

01:01:04.000 That is our only hope.

01:01:05.000 If we can't win in Idaho, if we have Ryan Cole in Idaho being investigated for prescribing ivermectin and the legislature doesn't do anything, if we have a 16-year-old girl being arrested for not wearing a Chinese diaper in the state of Wyoming, we're done.

01:01:22.000 I don't know what to tell you.

01:01:23.000 If we can't win in those states, I don't want to hear about, oh, what we can do with the national trifecta four years from now when we're dead already in a gulag with a narrow rhino majority. 0.87

01:01:35.000 You tell me how a president is going to change HHS, drain the swamp.

01:01:40.000 There's nothing to drain.

01:01:41.000 It'll drain you. 0.72

01:01:42.000 If you can't win in a 28 to 2 majority in Wyoming, then don't tell.

01:01:48.000 They already have trifecta.

01:01:50.000 Remember, state medical boards, state pharmacy boards, they're all state.

01:01:55.000 Oh, Biden's president.

01:01:56.000 There's nothing we can do.

01:01:57.000 We need to win back Congress.

01:01:59.000 No, that has nothing to do with anything.

01:02:01.000 You need an interposition bill in every state saying by a concurrent resolution, and we're going to be pushing this, concurrent resolution, anything the feds do that we believe is unconstitutional, we will criminalize its enforcement.

01:02:15.000 We will criminalize its enforcement within the state.

01:02:19.000 Let me leave you with this final thought.

01:02:22.000 The Democrats in the blue states have already done this.

01:02:25.000 If we ever had Ron DeSantis as president or whomever, you will not control them.

01:02:31.000 That die is cast.

01:02:32.000 They will do what they want.

01:02:33.000 You're never going to control them.

01:02:34.000 We already have a national divorce.

01:02:37.000 If blue states are able to criminalize federal immigration enforcement on behalf of illegal alien sex offenders, then you better believe that we need every governor, attorney general, and state legislator and county official in a red state to criminalize totalitarian totalitarian fascist mandates on the bodies of U.S. citizens.

01:03:04.000 If we can't do that, shame on us.

01:03:06.000 And we need to just go home because then there is no conservative movement in this country.

01:03:11.000 This is our time.

01:03:12.000 This is our issue.

01:03:13.000 This is our moment.

01:03:14.000 It's not about the next fight, the next thing.

01:03:17.000 It's not about the legacy flag-waving issues.

01:03:20.000 I'm broadly conservative on these issues.

01:03:23.000 Are you going to save medical freedom, bodily autonomy, basic liberty, or not?

01:03:31.000 Or is liberty just about marijuana, illegal aliens, and criminals?

01:03:36.000 Like some of our friends in some of these organizations that they're awfully silent when it comes to, they call themselves libertarian, but it's quite interesting how this issue is somewhat of an exception to that those principles.

01:03:52.000 And I just think we cannot recover from this.

01:03:56.000 We cannot move beyond this.

01:03:58.000 Like, I don't, as much as I care about illegal immigration, like I'd rather live. 1.00

01:04:05.000 I will live with them running around than right now. 0.96

01:04:08.000 They're killing us.

01:04:10.000 You will not have control of your body when this is done.

01:04:15.000 I think we're already there.

01:04:17.000 And we're already there.

01:04:18.000 We are a step away from Australia, a step away from it.

01:04:23.000 Daniel, thank you for coming.

01:04:25.000 Conservative Rew Podcast.

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01:04:28.000 Good part.

01:04:28.000 Come back.

01:04:29.000 God bless.

01:04:29.000 David Horowitz.

01:04:30.000 God bless you, man.

01:04:31.000 Thanks so much.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 20, 2021

Fauci Virus Thought Crimes with Daniel Horowitz

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