The Charlie Kirk Show - Fight of Our Lives Inside the Trump White House with Sarah Huckabee Sanders

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00:01:38.000 Hey, everybody.

00:01:39.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:41.000 I am thrilled to be joined today by my friend, an American patriot and hero, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who is the author of the new book, Speaking for Myself, Faith, Freedom, and the Fight of Our Lives Inside the Trump White House.

00:01:55.000 Sarah, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:58.000 Thank you so much, Charlie.

00:01:59.000 It's an honor to be with you and always fun to be with friends in a friendly interview.

00:02:04.000 I've done some of the others, and trust me, this is much better.

00:02:07.000 You did the view, and you also used to run the press briefings at the White House, which I would guess the questions there were probably a lot more unfair than what we are going to be discussing today.

00:02:18.000 Can you first just tell us your story, Sarah?

00:02:20.000 There are so many young people that listen to this podcast, and I just like telling, having people explain their stories.

00:02:26.000 You were, I believe my memory is correct.

00:02:28.000 You were deputy press secretary and then became press secretary.

00:02:32.000 Just tell us how you got into this political thing.

00:02:35.000 Obviously, you come from a family that is probably more political than not, but just walk us through your story.

00:02:41.000 Sure, I'll try to give you the quick version.

00:02:44.000 So as you know, I grew up in politics.

00:02:46.000 My dad ran for office for the very first time when I was nine, and I just couldn't get enough.

00:02:52.000 I loved that in politics, you get to meet such a variety of people.

00:02:56.000 He had been a pastor and run a communications agency before that.

00:02:59.000 And we joke in our family that church work and politics are a lot alike.

00:03:03.000 We take everybody.

00:03:05.000 And so I got exposed to such a different world, and I couldn't get enough.

00:03:11.000 While most kids were going to summer camp and spending the summer at the pool, I was at the Arkansas Festival Circuit passing out brochures, asking people to vote for my dad, and sitting around the kitchen table, listening to polling results and trying to soak up as much of it as I could.

00:03:30.000 The part I liked the most is that you got to do something and then see the impact of those policies on people.

00:03:38.000 Every time I would travel with my dad after he was elected governor, I would hear people who would say, you know, the program that your dad put in for children's insurance and children's health care saved my child's life.

00:03:51.000 And so getting to put faces with policy really impacted me at a young age.

00:03:56.000 And I knew I wanted to be part of something to help other people.

00:04:00.000 I'd always been more of a behind the scenes consultant and operative until 2016.

00:04:06.000 And I got a call asking me if I was willing to go on CNN on behalf of President Trump.

00:04:11.000 I was working for the campaign as a senior advisor, more strategic role at that point.

00:04:16.000 And I didn't know enough to say no to going on CNN at the time.

00:04:21.000 So I said, yes, I did it.

00:04:23.000 And they called me back the next day, said, Hey, you're not that bad.

00:04:26.000 Will you do it again?

00:04:28.000 And a couple of days later, I get a call from none other than Donald Trump himself.

00:04:32.000 And he says, stay on TV.

00:04:34.000 Don't do anything else.

00:04:35.000 That's where you belong.

00:04:36.000 He said, trust me, I know.

00:04:38.000 And that was sort of the beginning.

00:04:41.000 And from then on, I started doing a lot more surrogate work for the campaign.

00:04:46.000 And once he won and went into the White House as deputy press secretary under Sean Spicer, who's a good friend.

00:04:53.000 And I worked with Sean those first few months before he resigned after the very colorful Anthony Scaramucci arrived on the scene.

00:05:03.000 And after 11 days, he left and I was the only one standing.

00:05:07.000 And the rest is history.

00:05:09.000 I spent two and a half years almost every single day by the president's side and loved every minute, even the really challenging and difficult parts.

00:05:18.000 I wouldn't trade it.

00:05:19.000 And I was honored.

00:05:20.000 And it was a real privilege to get to work for the president.

00:05:23.000 Yeah, I think those 11 days, there needs to be a Netflix documentary.

00:05:26.000 Eventually, that needs to be made about it.

00:05:27.000 What a whirlwind of American.

00:05:29.000 I'm sure it's in the works.

00:05:30.000 And if Anthony has anything to do with it, he'll make sure it happens.

00:05:34.000 I think that he'll be the starring actor, actually.

00:05:37.000 Anthony Scaramucci as himself.

00:05:40.000 So, Sarah, can you walk us through something you mentioned?

00:05:43.000 I've had the opportunity to get to know the president.

00:05:45.000 You know him incredibly well.

00:05:48.000 He gets such a bad rap by so many people.

00:05:51.000 He believed in you.

00:05:52.000 He said he saw opportunity in you.

00:05:54.000 He said, I love seeing you on TV.

00:05:56.000 He poured into you and elevated you to the top communication arm of the United States government.

00:06:03.000 Can you talk about how the president empowers other people and his leadership style?

00:06:08.000 One of the things I love about the president is he just goes straight to the source.

00:06:08.000 Absolutely.

00:06:13.000 He doesn't mess around.

00:06:15.000 And if he thinks you're capable of doing something, he doesn't care what your title is, what your background is.

00:06:20.000 He says, just go do it.

00:06:21.000 Just get the job done.

00:06:22.000 And I think that's his years of being a builder and being a businessman.

00:06:27.000 He is very results driven.

00:06:29.000 That is his leadership style.

00:06:30.000 He wants to get the job done.

00:06:32.000 And one of the things that I loved about this president is he did empower us.

00:06:38.000 He, you know, there's always this talk about the president not empowering women.

00:06:42.000 I'm like, nothing could be further from the truth.

00:06:44.000 Not only did he surround himself with women, but very strong, opinionated, vocal women.

00:06:50.000 And he listened to us.

00:06:51.000 He took into account the things we said and really paid attention.

00:06:55.000 One instance in particular that was very impactful for me personally.

00:07:03.000 As my time at the White House, I was attacked constantly.

00:07:07.000 Nothing was off limits.

00:07:10.000 You know, most people, it's about their politics.

00:07:12.000 For me, it was about my appearance, my makeup, my clothes, my fitness to be a parent.

00:07:17.000 Everything was on the table for the liberal mob to come after me.

00:07:21.000 And on one particular occasion, an LA Times reporter had written just a pretty scathing article and called me some not so nice words, which I won't repeat because I'd like to block them out.

00:07:33.000 And even my own husband didn't know necessarily how to respond and just sort of the staff and people around me thought if we ignored it, it'll go away and, you know, Sarah will be fine.

00:07:45.000 But the president, we're in Japan.

00:07:47.000 We're walking into a bilateral meeting with Prime Minister Abe.

00:07:50.000 The president has so many more important things on his plate in that moment.

00:07:54.000 And he grabs me and turns me and looks straight in my eyes and says, Sarah, you're smart, you're beautiful, and the only reason they come after you is because you're good at your job.

00:08:04.000 Now, don't let those get you down.

00:08:06.000 I won't repeat the words he used, but he likes colorful language sometimes.

00:08:10.000 But he made his point.

00:08:12.000 You know, he kind of patted me on the arm and said, Now get back to work.

00:08:16.000 And it was in that moment he gave me the confidence and supported me when nobody else around me really knew how to do it.

00:08:22.000 The president did.

00:08:24.000 And then we went right back to work.

00:08:26.000 And it was one of those moments that was very impactful and very helpful to me to keep going and keep pushing forward.

00:08:33.000 That's awesome.

00:08:34.000 Yeah, he really believes in other people.

00:08:37.000 And you want him in your corner if you're in a street fight.

00:08:39.000 I'll tell you what.

00:08:41.000 He'll defend what is right and what is good.

00:08:43.000 And that is exactly right.

00:08:45.000 And so can you also just kind of talk about your time in the White House while you were under the Mueller microscope, which was a sham investigation.

00:08:56.000 The House Democrats were doing everything they possibly could to destroy this president and his accomplishments.

00:09:03.000 You got a lot done in the time that you were there communicating that and also balancing being a mother.

00:09:10.000 How is that even?

00:09:10.000 I mean, what would your day look like?

00:09:12.000 I mean, just walk us through when you would get up, when you'd go to bed.

00:09:15.000 People are curious about that.

00:09:17.000 I am too.

00:09:18.000 How did you keep that all together?

00:09:21.000 You know, some days I'm not sure myself, Charlie, but you're running on pretty much pure adrenaline most of the time.

00:09:28.000 You're up by usually 5 a.m. and typically with a barrage of emails and texts and calls from all of the morning show producers.

00:09:38.000 A lot of people believe that the White House press secretary's job is only standing at the podium.

00:09:43.000 But what they don't know is that almost every reporter in the country and frankly around the world has your cell phone number, your email, and access to your office.

00:09:53.000 And so all day, every day, you're fielding calls and requests for information from reporters while at the same time trying to keep up with Donald Trump, which is not an easy task.

00:10:04.000 I always say for somebody who's twice my age, he also has twice my energy.

00:10:09.000 I don't know how he does it.

00:10:10.000 And the rest of us are just struggling to keep up.

00:10:13.000 But the days would start around 5 a.m. dealing with all of the news from the night, morning show producers, prepping for that, and usually tried to be in the office by 7:30.

00:10:24.000 I'd rush to get my kids ready for school out the door and arrive to the office for morning meetings.

00:10:32.000 And then usually a call from the president to talk about maybe some of his tweets from the morning to what we were going to message on a couple of those.

00:10:41.000 Everything that I thought when I got up at five and thought would drive the day would usually change by 7 a.m. when the president started telling us what the news of the day really was.

00:10:52.000 And, you know, then we go through a series of meetings, prep time for the briefing, and usually trying to spend as much time during the day with the president and in meetings because it made my job much easier to speak on his behalf if I was in the room and I saw things as they were happening and I could see the process from the beginning.

00:11:16.000 One of the things I loved about the president, he doesn't, you know, he's always fighting with the press, but he also understands the power of the press.

00:11:24.000 And he knew it would be impossible for me to do my job and communicate his message and speak on his behalf if I wasn't in the room and I didn't know what was going on.

00:11:32.000 And so he took me with him everywhere, which was pretty incredible to have a front row seat to history.

00:11:39.000 I got to sit across the table from Kim Jong-un and, you know, dozens of other world leaders, which was pretty incredible.

00:11:48.000 You asked about the Mueller report in particular, or the Mueller investigation, which was a ridiculous witch hunt that went on for two years, a total waste of taxpayer dollars and time.

00:12:01.000 And a lot of that was just perpetuated by Democrats and the media.

00:12:06.000 I got to experience firsthand the ridiculousness of that investigation when I was asked to come in and be interviewed by the Mueller team.

00:12:16.000 He came in, Mueller quickly said hello.

00:12:19.000 And with minutes, I was left with that group of angry Democrats who I'd come voluntarily.

00:12:26.000 I wasn't a target.

00:12:28.000 I wasn't a subject of the investigation.

00:12:30.000 And I'd come on my own volition to interview with them at their request.

00:12:36.000 And they made me feel like a common criminal from the moment I walked in with just a barrage of questions.

00:12:43.000 And I knew at that point that it was, you know, a total waste and that this would be nothing more than an excuse and an avenue to attack the president.

00:12:52.000 I mean, you're exactly right.

00:12:54.000 And so, Sarah, what's incredible is I'm guessing you had to have legal representation there, right?

00:12:59.000 And I don't know if you had to pay for it privately or independently, but I know some people in the White House that had to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to represent themselves.

00:13:08.000 And I mean, if there's anything that should be litigated, it's the Democrats like Adam Schiff that should reimburse everyone that had to pay all these legal fees to defend themselves against this incredibly, I think, illegal and unconstitutional witch hunt.

00:13:24.000 I know there are people in the White House that you know, Sarah, we don't have to say their names, that are still in debt over the legal fees they had to pay to defend themselves.

00:13:31.000 It's absolutely unbelievable.

00:13:32.000 It really is.

00:13:34.000 It's preposterous, totally insane.

00:13:36.000 Yeah, and it's really, it's all because they just supported the president.

00:13:40.000 So, so when would your days end and how would they end?

00:13:43.000 I get these questions a lot, Sarah, and I don't even know how to answer them.

00:13:45.000 People say, Charlie, how do the people in the White House do it?

00:13:48.000 I say, look, I think I have a crazy schedule.

00:13:50.000 I travel.

00:13:50.000 I do two podcasts a day.

00:13:52.000 I speak all this.

00:13:53.000 I say, but working in the White House, I mean, I've visited there a couple of times.

00:13:56.000 You know, I came and visited you.

00:13:58.000 It is the most intense work environment I've ever seen.

00:14:01.000 And that's something that people need to realize: it is a work environment, right?

00:14:06.000 I mean, it's obviously it has all the pageantry and it's the people's house, but there are people like you that you go to work every day, and 15 feet outside of your office is the AP Huffington Post and all of these news reporters that are just waiting for one thing to make your life miserable.

00:14:22.000 So, how would the day end and how would that actually work?

00:14:27.000 You know, it would vary.

00:14:28.000 That's the mystery of the century.

00:14:31.000 There's no typical day in any White House, but especially in the Trump White House.

00:14:36.000 And so, most days didn't end until close to midnight.

00:14:39.000 I would usually finish at the office and try to leave by seven o'clock so I could tuck my kids into bed.

00:14:46.000 And as soon as they went to sleep, I would be back at work on phone and email, usually well into the evening, fielding calls from reporters, working stories before they hit print the next morning.

00:15:00.000 And then, you know, you try to get a few hours of sleep and then wake up and do it all over again the next day.

00:15:06.000 You don't realize how tired you are until after you leave.

00:15:10.000 And then, you know, I had talked to some of my predecessors who were like, take a minute.

00:15:15.000 Don't try to rush anything.

00:15:16.000 You're going to need a couple of weeks, maybe even a month or two to like, you know, acclimate to the real world all over again.

00:15:24.000 And so I didn't realize I didn't take them as serious as I should have until after I left the White House.

00:15:31.000 And you just kind of crashed because your body is so tired from, for me, two and a half years of 15 to 20 hour days every day.

00:15:40.000 Yeah.

00:15:41.000 And biochemically, your body gets used to those five-hour nights and you get used to the triple shot espresso.

00:15:46.000 And then once you leave the White House, you start to, you know, okay, maybe I'll sleep six and a half hours and your body tries to basically rewire itself back into normalcy.

00:15:55.000 And I mean, I've talked to you and other people that have been in the White House.

00:15:59.000 It is the hardest place, especially with this president, that someone can work right now because it's not just the pressure of the job.

00:16:06.000 You know, I'm sure it was hard for the people that worked in the Obama White House.

00:16:09.000 But if someone in the Obama White House did something wrong, the press wouldn't cover it, right?

00:16:13.000 They'd just say, don't cover this.

00:16:14.000 You know, we'll take care of you.

00:16:16.000 I mean, if you guys do something right in the Trump White House, they will do whatever they possibly can to misrepresent it.

00:16:22.000 So, Sarah, can you walk through what a press briefing is and was?

00:16:25.000 I mean, you did an amazing job defending the president, defending our country.

00:16:29.000 How do those things work?

00:16:30.000 You did them quite with quite regularity.

00:16:32.000 You'd have probably a meeting with the president, get your thing, you know, get your thoughts together.

00:16:36.000 You'd walk out to the press briefing room and then just go to combat.

00:16:39.000 Can you walk us through that?

00:16:41.000 So the best preparation for me was, again, spending time around the president, being in meetings as policies were being discussed and formulated and fought out from beginning until their conclusion.

00:16:41.000 Sure.

00:16:54.000 And so making sure I had a good foundation was really important.

00:16:59.000 I had context for when they asked about all of the crazy PALS intrigue stories that they loved to hear.

00:17:06.000 I had been in the room, so I had authority and confidence to answer those questions.

00:17:11.000 Before the briefing, usually I would have ideally two hours, but a lot of times it would get consolidated into an hour, sometimes even 30 to 45 minutes of prep time with my team where they would come in.

00:17:24.000 And the way that I operated best was to do a murder board.

00:17:28.000 So they would fire off questions they thought might come up and we would kind of walk through some of those answers.

00:17:35.000 You have no idea what's going to be asked.

00:17:38.000 You know, kind of the big news of the day and what people are interested in, but anything is on the table.

00:17:45.000 And, you know, so you have to sort of prepare for everything.

00:17:48.000 Sometimes you just have to go with your gut instinct and hope that you nail it right and don't start a war with another country or crash the economy for the wrong answer.

00:17:58.000 And then I would, the last thing I would do before every briefing, usually I would go in and talk to the president, check a couple of questions I needed clarity on, and then I would come back and take a few minutes by myself.

00:18:10.000 And I would read the daily devotional from Jesus Calling, Sarah Young's book.

00:18:15.000 That was the last thing I would do before I walked into the briefing.

00:18:18.000 It was a way for me to calm my mind and a good reminder of what mattered most.

00:18:24.000 And after that, I usually had kind of a piece and I would just walk in.

00:18:28.000 You know, the briefings lasted anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour and take questions and usually battle it out with some of America's toughest and most shrewd journalists there are.

00:18:41.000 And, you know, we had some fun moments, that's for sure, and some tough moments.

00:18:47.000 And every once in a while, we even had some heartwarming moments in that room.

00:18:52.000 I tried to do things that brought the temperature down and allowed us to really get a message out to the American people because ultimately that's what the briefing is supposed to be about.

00:19:02.000 Unfortunately, the press sort of turned into more of how do we get the gotcha moment, the takedown moment of not just the staff, but the president himself.

00:19:13.000 Yeah, and that's what people have to realize is you are on center stage.

00:19:16.000 I mean, you're on five hours of sleep.

00:19:17.000 You have to do all the communications.

00:19:19.000 If you say one thing wrong, it's everywhere.

00:19:21.000 And then you got to go on live TV, middle of the day, where everyone's trying to make that moment.

00:19:25.000 It's one of the hardest, most pressure-filled jobs.

00:19:29.000 And you did a phenomenal job, Sarah.

00:19:30.000 You really did.

00:19:31.000 It was absolutely incredible.

00:19:33.000 Can you also talk a little bit about, and you talk about this in the book.

00:19:36.000 Again, I want to plug the book again.

00:19:37.000 Everyone's got to go buy a copy.

00:19:39.000 Speaking for myself, Faith, Freedom, and the Fight for Our Lives Inside of the Trump White House.

00:19:45.000 Can you talk about President Trump's famous confrontation with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer?

00:19:50.000 This is one of my favorite moments.

00:19:51.000 I wish it would have, there would have been more moments like this.

00:19:54.000 You had a front row seat to this. 0.94

00:19:56.000 I wish there had been a camera there so that we could show the hypocrisy of the Democrats.

00:20:02.000 This was a contentious battle.

00:20:05.000 We were in the heat of the moment trying to get funding for border security.

00:20:12.000 And the president was hell-bent on making sure he didn't walk out of there without something during this, you know, course of several week battle.

00:20:24.000 So he comes into this room and he simply asks Nancy, are you ready to talk about border security?

00:20:30.000 Do you actually want to do something on border security?

00:20:33.000 She basically said no very quickly, like, we don't have any interest in helping you.

00:20:39.000 And the president was like, well, then this is a huge waste of time.

00:20:41.000 He was very calm.

00:20:42.000 He came in.

00:20:43.000 He asked the question.

00:20:44.000 They said no.

00:20:45.000 And he said, all right, bye-bye.

00:20:47.000 And literally waved bye bye and walked out of the room.

00:20:51.000 And within minutes, we're sitting in the president's back dining room watching TV.

00:20:56.000 And the Democrats go out right in front of the White House and say the president storms in, storms out, bangs on the table.

00:21:03.000 And we're like, wait, what?

00:21:05.000 That didn't happen.

00:21:06.000 We were in that room.

00:21:07.000 And Kevin McCarthy goes out immediately.

00:21:09.000 I was like, I don't know what room they were in because the one I was in, that didn't happen.

00:21:14.000 Yet, of course, the media took the Democrats side, perpetuated their story.

00:21:20.000 But ultimately, the president won that battle.

00:21:23.000 We're building the wall and he is protecting American citizens, one of the things that he promised he would do in 2016 and has definitely followed through since getting elected.

00:21:33.000 No, that's, I remember that very well.

00:21:36.000 And the media was trying to make it seem something that it wasn't.

00:21:39.000 But, you know, Pelosi and Schumer, they're able to lie and the activist media stands up for them and basically has become the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party.

00:21:48.000 So you also talk in your book here, and you mentioned this about the devotional, your commitment to faith and family.

00:21:55.000 Can you talk more about that and how people can apply the lessons that you learned in the White House to their own life?

00:22:01.000 Not everyone is under the same sort of scrutiny and pressure that you were, but in their own realm, people deal with adversity every single day.

00:22:08.000 What are some things that you knew when you left the White House that you didn't know before you got into the White House that you believe made you a stronger Christian, a better fighter, and also some advice that you could communicate?

00:22:19.000 Well, I think one of the most important things for me personally, and it was tested every day, and I had to lean on my faith constantly, was knowing what I believed in and who I was before I ever stepped foot into that building and stepped up behind that podium, not needing the New York Times or the Washington Post or anybody else to define me because I had a God who had already done that, who had created me for a unique and special purpose.

00:22:47.000 And it didn't have anything to do with the liberal left or the crazy media that were trying to attack me.

00:22:53.000 And knowing that no matter what happened in that room or in that job, at the end of the day, I would still have my faith.

00:23:00.000 I would still have my family.

00:23:02.000 And I would still have freedom to live in the greatest country on the face of the planet was what gave me confidence to tackle each day.

00:23:08.000 It was what gave me the ability, no matter how hard the days were, how difficult the challenge is, to continue showing up day after day and continue fighting back.

00:23:18.000 If I hadn't had that, I don't know that I would have made it two and a half years in that White House because it is so brutal.

00:23:26.000 But having that confidence and knowing who I was and what I believed in made all the difference in the world.

00:23:32.000 So let's talk politics now.

00:23:34.000 The president is in a very tight reelection battle with Joe Biden.

00:23:38.000 The fact that it is as tight as it is in some of the public polling, I actually think is incredible. 0.61

00:23:43.000 And it kind of goes to show the president's perseverance and durability, considering all that the media and the Democrats and the Chinese have thrown at this president.

00:23:51.000 It's absolutely incredible with the virus and the cover-up, the impeachment, the spying, all of it.

00:23:58.000 What is your analysis of the 2020 race?

00:24:00.000 What do you think that the president needs to do to ensure victory?

00:24:04.000 And what are some things that we might be missing about the current election cycle?

00:24:08.000 Well, I think certainly right now, given everything that's happening around the country, I think the president's message of law and order, safety and security is very important.

00:24:17.000 There is so much unrest and so much uncertainty.

00:24:21.000 At the end of the day, people want to know that they can walk outside of their homes, that they can drop their kids off at school and not be afraid of being attacked.

00:24:31.000 And I think that is a huge contrast between this president and Joe Biden.

00:24:37.000 Joe Biden didn't even start talking about the riots and the violence that are taking place in cities all across this country until he saw the poll start to tighten.

00:24:46.000 In fact, he didn't even come out of his basement until that moment.

00:24:49.000 And to me, that is a huge difference between these two candidates.

00:24:53.000 Joe Biden is a person of convenience, not of conviction.

00:24:57.000 And it wasn't until that moment when we saw those polls start to tighten that he even brought that up.

00:25:01.000 And they don't really have a lot of credibility on the topic when his running mate was busy fundraising to bail people out of jail when these moments were taking place and the president was standing up and saying, guys, we can't have this.

00:25:14.000 People certainly have a right to peacefully protest and they should, but they can't burn cities to the ground and destroy businesses.

00:25:21.000 The other message I think the president has to lean in on is he built one of the strongest economies we've ever had, and we need him to do it again.

00:25:30.000 When we come out of this virus, when we open the government or open the country completely back up, we need somebody who understands how to run a business, how to grow a business, and the impact that that has on a community.

00:25:43.000 Donald Trump does that.

00:25:44.000 He knows how important it is for people to have a job and how empowering that is.

00:25:50.000 And I think those two messages are probably the most important for this president in order to win and beat Joe Biden in November.

00:25:58.000 So a lot of our younger listeners have to be in universities or high schools, and they deal with liberals a lot of the time.

00:26:05.000 You know how to deal with people on the left better than anyone else.

00:26:08.000 What's some piece of advice?

00:26:09.000 What did you learn about dealing with the left?

00:26:11.000 I mean, you dealt with the most combative public part of this, but so many young people out there are under constant persecution for their conservative, for their constitutional, for their Christian or their pro-Trump beliefs.

00:26:24.000 What sort of lessons do you have for them on how to be able to either win an argument or be able to bridge the divide or communicate clearly to the other side?

00:26:33.000 Well, I think you know this better than anybody, Charlie.

00:26:36.000 You go into the lion's den on the daily basis and challenge a lot of these liberals and beat them.

00:26:44.000 I love all of the content and the videos because one of the things I think you do so well is you're well informed.

00:26:52.000 And I think that is such a important piece of winning the argument is the facts are on our side.

00:26:57.000 The information and the facts line up with conservative principles and conservative values on what will make this country better.

00:27:05.000 You do a spectacular job at making sure you're very well informed and you can poke holes in so many of the Democrats' arguments when you know what you're talking about.

00:27:16.000 The other thing, and it goes back to what I was saying before, know what you believe in and don't be afraid to speak out about it.

00:27:22.000 We cannot allow the liberal mob to bully us into thinking that we're somehow bad people because we believe in something.

00:27:30.000 And I think they need to find a community of people that believe like they do.

00:27:35.000 They're not alone, and they should know that there is a vast army of conservatives out there who believe in a smaller government, lower taxes, less government intrusion on our everyday life, a strong military, and believe in our faith and our freedom and what makes America special.

00:27:53.000 If people will find that community, find that support, and be vocal and stand up for what they believe in, I don't think anything could be more important for young people than figuring out who they are and not being afraid to talk about it.

00:28:07.000 Well, that's that's phenomenal.

00:28:08.000 So, my last question, Sarah.

00:28:09.000 And again, the book, I encourage everyone to check it out and to get a copy is speaking for myself.

00:28:15.000 And people can get the book anywhere.

00:28:17.000 I encourage them not to buy it on Amazon, but maybe they should if you want them to.

00:28:20.000 I just don't like giving money to Amazon is speaking for myself: faith, freedom, and the fight of our lives inside the Trump White House.

00:28:28.000 A lot of people are saying maybe Sarah Huckabee Sanders might be running for something.

00:28:32.000 Can you comment on it or just what are your thoughts?

00:28:36.000 You know, definitely serious about it.

00:28:38.000 But right now, my focus is 2020.

00:28:40.000 I want to help the president get reelected.

00:28:43.000 I want to make sure we hold on to the Senate.

00:28:45.000 And I'd love to see us take back the House and never have to utter the word Speaker Pelosi again.

00:28:51.000 So, right now, 2020 is my focus.

00:28:53.000 And after we get the president reelected, I will make a decision about what 2022 looks like and whether or not I'll run for governor here in Arkansas.

00:29:02.000 We have your back no matter what you do.

00:29:04.000 God bless you, Sarah.

00:29:05.000 Everyone, please pick up a copy of your book.

00:29:06.000 And it's so great to have fellow patriots that are fighting for our country.

00:29:11.000 And, you know, it's refreshing to have someone who has left the White House and has nice things to say about the president and good things and honest things.

00:29:18.000 So it's terrific.

00:29:19.000 And onward to victory.

00:29:21.000 God bless you, Sarah.

00:29:22.000 Thank you so much.

00:29:23.000 Thanks so much for having me, Charlie.

00:29:23.000 You bet.

00:29:25.000 Talk to you soon.

00:29:27.000 What a great conversation that was with Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

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00:30:04.000 Thank you guys so much for listening.

00:30:05.000 Make sure to listen to our sister episode today.

00:30:07.000 God bless. 0.93

00:30:08.000 Talk to you soon.

The Charlie Kirk Show - September 11, 2020

Fight of Our Lives Inside the Trump White House with Sarah Huckabee Sanders

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