The Charlie Kirk Show - Fighting Off the Death of the Citizen: A Conversation with America’s Future

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00:00:08.000 This is an event I did with classical conversations.

00:00:10.000 More from them later in the episode schedule.

00:00:14.000 We're actually going to sit down with the head of classical conversations.

00:00:17.000 I think you'll really enjoy it.

00:00:18.000 It was a homeschooling group, and I got to tell you, the smartest, most driven, determined kids that I talk to are homeschooling kids.

00:00:24.000 So if you're a parent out there or a new parent, I want you to think deeply and pray about that.

00:00:27.000 I'm very pro-homeschooling.

00:00:29.000 I talk to them about America and why they should care about America, and then I take their questions.

00:00:32.000 It's a fun, unfiltered conversation.

00:00:35.000 And you'll hear from the quality of the questions.

00:00:38.000 No, these are not college kids.

00:00:39.000 These are 11, 12, 13, and 14-year-old kids that ask questions as if they were 25 years old.

00:00:43.000 Very, very impressive.

00:00:45.000 If you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, that helped co-sponsor this event, go to tpusa.com, sort of high school chapter, sort of college chapter today at tpusa.com, where we play offense with a sense of urgency to win the American Culture War.

00:00:57.000 We want to make sure your kids live in a free country.

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00:01:03.000 Here we go.

00:01:04.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:01:06.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:01:08.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

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00:01:14.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:15.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:16.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

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00:01:45.000 Wow, it's Friday night, and you guys are spending your time so nicely.

00:01:48.000 Thank you so much for having me here tonight.

00:01:50.000 And I want to thank the Jensens for helping put this together in classical conversations.

00:01:55.000 We're going to have some fun here.

00:01:57.000 And I also want to thank the church for hosting this.

00:02:00.000 And I could guarantee you that you're making better decisions this Friday night than most young people your age.

00:02:06.000 Let me first start with what I you are all very privileged here tonight, not because of your skin color or any of that nonsense that you'll see on TV. 0.82

00:02:17.000 You're privileged because most of you are being homeschooled.

00:02:21.000 And statistically, that means you're going to live a happier and better life.

00:02:25.000 And you need to be reminded of that.

00:02:27.000 Now, when I grew up, I was not homeschooled, but I went to a couple different schools, Christian school included.

00:02:35.000 I was kind of propagandized by my local community that anyone that was homeschooled was kind of homeschooled as kind of weird and like not socially kind of up to the task.

00:02:48.000 And that was just wrong.

00:02:49.000 It was a lie.

00:02:50.000 And now I look back, all the homeschooled kids are, they own companies and have big families and they're super happy.

00:02:56.000 And the kids that went to public school, not as much.

00:02:59.000 Now, maybe you go to public school here and you're saying, oh, you know, that's too bad. 1.00

00:03:02.000 But it's just true.

00:03:03.000 And here's why.

00:03:04.000 It's because homeschooling, you don't allow the state and you don't allow the government to get in the way of the transmission of truth to children.

00:03:14.000 And it's good for the parents as much as it is for the kids.

00:03:17.000 And we obviously talk about it mostly from a child perspective, which is obviously the most important thing.

00:03:22.000 But also, it keeps the parents on their toes to constantly be relearning and also aware of what's happening in the world and connecting that to their students.

00:03:31.000 It creates better citizens, is what I'm getting at, is that it creates a adult citizenry that is constantly interfacing with their childhood child developing, which you kind of look at the last year and a half in our country.

00:03:46.000 You know, homeschooling has doubled, by the way, which is a great thing for the future of America.

00:03:50.000 It's a very good thing.

00:03:51.000 And I couldn't be more supportive of that.

00:03:55.000 But I laugh because at Turning Point USA we do a lot with education space and trying to warn parents how bad public schools actually have become and how deceitful they have become and how damaging they can become for a children's future and what they're teaching, what they're not teaching.

00:04:14.000 And this last year and a half, especially when the whole country decided to lock down unnecessarily so, a lot of parents started to become aware of what was happening in their local schools.

00:04:25.000 And I'm sure some of you parents actually might be recent homeschooling moms.

00:04:28.000 Maybe, maybe not.

00:04:29.000 Maybe all of you have been doing it since the beginning, and that's awesome.

00:04:32.000 Maybe you know some parents that have just recently kind of joined the movement.

00:04:36.000 And I laugh because some parents, that's what it took for them to become aware of it.

00:04:41.000 But praise God that something as terrible as the lockdowns and our reaction to the virus caused this renaissance of parents caring about their kids' education.

00:04:51.000 And so I'm not going to get too much into this, but this is mostly directed towards the parents.

00:04:56.000 One of the most consequential legislative and public policy fights that is going to come nationally and more to states like California and New York is going to try to outlaw homeschooling.

00:05:06.000 It's coming.

00:05:07.000 They've already tried to do it.

00:05:09.000 They're doing it in Europe.

00:05:11.000 It's probably that that's not going to happen in Arizona anytime soon.

00:05:14.000 I'm not a fear-mongering guy.

00:05:15.000 I'm not trying to make you kind of worried about something that's not realistic.

00:05:20.000 But there's a reason for that.

00:05:21.000 And the reason goes directly towards the promise that is in one of the Ten Commandments, and a promise that every kid here probably knows a lot better than most public school kids, which is the only Ten Commandment that comes with the promise, which is honor your mother and father so you may live long in the land of which you are in.

00:05:36.000 And the state exists to interrupt that promise.

00:05:40.000 The reason why America, one of the reasons why America is becoming less free and unrecognizable is because children are being taught not to honor their parents.

00:05:48.000 It's not outward at times, but it's very intentional over a period of time.

00:05:55.000 It's your parents don't know it like we do.

00:05:57.000 Oh, they're outdated.

00:05:59.000 They believe the Bible.

00:06:01.000 We believe science, whatever nonsense they say, right?

00:06:04.000 Where a country cannot survive if that's the case.

00:06:06.000 It cannot happen.

00:06:07.000 And Mao understood this.

00:06:08.000 Stalin understood this.

00:06:10.000 That if you can break the bond between a parent and a child of the transmission of things that are true, the country falls apart.

00:06:17.000 So I want to talk about one thing in particular mostly to the students here and kind of the next generation.

00:06:24.000 And then I want to spend a lot of time doing questions, which I think is the most fun and the most important.

00:06:29.000 You are all classically educated, so I expect all of you to know your Aristotle and your Plato and your Socrates super well.

00:06:38.000 I'm half kidding, okay?

00:06:39.000 And your Aquinas.

00:06:40.000 The fact that you're laughing means you get it, which is beautiful.

00:06:46.000 I say that to public schools, and they say, what is that?

00:06:49.000 Is that a sandwich, Aristotle?

00:06:52.000 They don't know.

00:06:54.000 Okay, Philippians 4.8, which the Bible is the most important document ever written.

00:06:59.000 It's the Word of God.

00:07:00.000 We can go through why that's the case.

00:07:01.000 I feel like I'm preaching to a hometown audience.

00:07:03.000 I'll let the great pastor kind of talk about that.

00:07:06.000 But Philippians 4.8, one of the last things Paul ever wrote in a letter to the Philippians said, basically, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is good, think on these things.

00:07:15.000 I'm paraphrasing, I'm missing some words.

00:07:16.000 But the point is that we as Christians are supposed to think deeply about the things that are true in this world.

00:07:23.000 Whatever is true.

00:07:24.000 And whatever is good.

00:07:26.000 And America is good.

00:07:28.000 America is a good nation.

00:07:29.000 Now, our government is highly questionable at times.

00:07:31.000 And so I want you to separate our government from the nation and from the people.

00:07:37.000 But many of you are going to be challenged in the next couple years.

00:07:43.000 You're going to be challenged to disconnect your role as a citizen of this nation.

00:07:51.000 They want you not to care as a young person.

00:07:55.000 They want you to be cynical.

00:07:57.000 They want you to think that maybe you want to go start a family, maybe you want to go have a job, but the nation's toast.

00:08:05.000 Forget it.

00:08:06.000 Who cares about this?

00:08:07.000 It's a gift from the Lord that you get to live in this country.

00:08:10.000 It's a very exceptional, unprecedented nation in more ways than one.

00:08:16.000 In Jeremiah 29, 7, it says that it's the Lord speaking that we must demand the welfare of the nation or the welfare of the peace of the nation that we are in because your welfare is tied to the nation's welfare.

00:08:30.000 We're called to care about the place that we're in.

00:08:32.000 And the place that we're in is in trouble right now.

00:08:36.000 But the history and the unprecedented nature of this country is something beautiful and exceptional.

00:08:42.000 So you guys are super smart.

00:08:44.000 What is America's birthday?

00:08:46.000 Anyone?

00:08:47.000 1776.

00:08:48.000 Good.

00:08:49.000 What date in 1776?

00:08:51.000 July 4th.

00:08:52.000 It's not a trick question.

00:08:53.000 Don't worry.

00:08:54.000 It's all right.

00:08:55.000 We'll get to trick questions later.

00:08:57.000 That's not now.

00:08:58.000 So you're right.

00:08:59.000 July 4th, 1776.

00:09:01.000 Not September 17th, 1787.

00:09:03.000 Not the ratification of the Constitution.

00:09:05.000 Why that day?

00:09:06.000 Let's just think about this.

00:09:07.000 Okay, so what happened on that day?

00:09:09.000 Now it was really July 3rd.

00:09:10.000 Okay, we don't have to get into that.

00:09:12.000 The point, let's just say July-ish, okay?

00:09:15.000 Right?

00:09:16.000 Because it was like post-dated and they had to wait over a weekend and they took the Sabbath. 0.99

00:09:19.000 Anyway, the point, it's true.

00:09:20.000 There's like, there was all this drama.

00:09:22.000 If you actually study it, it really wasn't July 4th.

00:09:24.000 But we celebrated July 4th.

00:09:25.000 Let's pretend it's July 4th.

00:09:26.000 The fact that we have a birthday is a big deal.

00:09:28.000 Now, here's a trick question.

00:09:29.000 What is the United Kingdom's birthday?

00:09:31.000 Britain's birthday.

00:09:32.000 You don't know.

00:09:33.000 They don't have one.

00:09:33.000 It's just kind of there.

00:09:34.000 It's like, I don't know, sometime in the 900s, we decided we didn't like the Vikings, right? 0.97

00:09:42.000 It's true.

00:09:43.000 And then King Edward decided to draw a line in the sand and we went to war and sometime in that span. 0.91

00:09:49.000 What's China's birthday? 0.82

00:09:51.000 They don't have one. 1.00

00:09:51.000 It's just kind of been there, right? 1.00

00:09:54.000 The point we have a birthday is a really big deal.

00:09:56.000 That means that we drew a line in the sand and we said, okay, today we're going to start.

00:10:00.000 And the amazing thing is it's a birthday that was self-declared.

00:10:03.000 That's why it's called the Declaration of Independence.

00:10:05.000 And the Declaration obviously starts by Thomas Jefferson, I think, who gets an unbelievably bad rap in American society.

00:10:12.000 Super flawed and complicated guy, obviously, unbelievably wise.

00:10:16.000 If any one of you live a life like Thomas Jefferson, I'll build your statue, okay?

00:10:20.000 And never tear it down.

00:10:21.000 Thomas Jefferson was a student of the Bible, despite his own personal opinions of it.

00:10:26.000 The point is that he derived incredible wisdom from it.

00:10:29.000 And he wrote this, the first paragraph, the Declaration of Independence, is a beautiful paragraph.

00:10:33.000 When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands that tie them to another.

00:10:39.000 Like, whoa, that's big.

00:10:40.000 That means that he's making a moral argument.

00:10:43.000 He's saying that the rights that you're given at birth from your creator, if they get violated, it's not, he's saying it's a good idea.

00:10:54.000 He's not saying you might want to.

00:10:56.000 No, he says you have to separate.

00:11:00.000 Unprecedented.

00:11:01.000 He goes on to say the laws of nature and nature is God.

00:11:05.000 Now, God is mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence.

00:11:08.000 Now, for bonus points, can anyone tell me all four?

00:11:10.000 No?

00:11:11.000 That's okay.

00:11:11.000 So, creator of the world, judge of the universe, and supreme being of the universe.

00:11:16.000 And that's a kind of a precursor to the U.S. Constitution.

00:11:19.000 But the point is that Jefferson, throughout this document, is very obviously pointing to what was already brewing in the colonies, which was a citizenry demanding a government that recognized a transcendent order.

00:11:31.000 That King George was not at the top of the throne, that Jesus Christ is at the top of the throne.

00:11:35.000 That's what the colonists were demanding.

00:11:36.000 Now, the fact that we look at the Declaration as our birthday is kind of bizarre because we didn't have a president.

00:11:45.000 We didn't.

00:11:46.000 We didn't have a Senate.

00:11:47.000 We kind of had a Continental Congress.

00:11:49.000 It was super informal.

00:11:50.000 We didn't even have a constitution, yet we say that's our birthday.

00:11:53.000 That's weird.

00:11:54.000 Why is that?

00:11:55.000 It's because that's the day we decided to separate and go a different path.

00:12:00.000 A path that is very simple, that every person in this room lives under, and almost no one here takes for granted.

00:12:06.000 I hope not.

00:12:07.000 Which is separation of powers, consent of the governed, independent judiciary.

00:12:13.000 A very simple truth.

00:12:14.000 God grants your rights, government does not.

00:12:18.000 That God grants your existence, government does not.

00:12:22.000 So the whole axis of government was inverted at that moment.

00:12:25.000 Because before then, every government absent the Roman Republic, which fell apart in like an afternoon, basically, right?

00:12:32.000 Most republics don't last, by the way.

00:12:33.000 Most republics are super fragile, they fall apart.

00:12:37.000 And we're not a democracy.

00:12:38.000 Happy to get into why we're not a democracy.

00:12:40.000 I never want to hear any of you ever in your life.

00:12:42.000 There's only one thing you remember.

00:12:43.000 It's like that Charlie Kirk guy said that we're a republic, not a democracy.

00:12:46.000 Good.

00:12:46.000 You remember?

00:12:47.000 That's it.

00:12:48.000 My work is done.

00:12:48.000 We're not a democracy.

00:12:49.000 I can go into the significance of that at a different time.

00:12:52.000 But before that, it was always the case that you, the people, were slaves, serfs, or subjects, not citizens.

00:13:04.000 The only exceptions would be, again, the Roman Republic and Athenian city-state democracy that was legitimate democracy.

00:13:12.000 And it falls apart very quickly.

00:13:14.000 Those would be the only exceptions.

00:13:15.000 And maybe, I don't know, I get some guy that emailed me some Peruvian example that lasted for like a season.

00:13:22.000 Okay, maybe that.

00:13:24.000 The point is it didn't last, okay?

00:13:25.000 Citizens is a very unique thing.

00:13:28.000 Now, citizens, the word citizen comes from a Greek word that means co-owner.

00:13:33.000 That means you're part of the project.

00:13:35.000 Now, here's the thing that no one wants to say out loud.

00:13:39.000 It's easier to be a subject.

00:13:42.000 You don't have to think.

00:13:45.000 It's easier to be a serf.

00:13:48.000 You don't have to provide.

00:13:51.000 You just do what you're told.

00:13:52.000 Citizenship is hard.

00:13:55.000 It requires responsibility, awareness, education.

00:14:00.000 It requires you to want to better your own life and trying to move yourself to a higher place of existence and being.

00:14:07.000 Citizenship is fragile.

00:14:09.000 Now, here's the amazing thing about the founders is they understood human nature correctly.

00:14:15.000 So let me find out if you guys are classically educated or not.

00:14:18.000 Do you believe human nature is naturally good or naturally bad?

00:14:23.000 Bad.

00:14:24.000 Good.

00:14:24.000 You've read the Bible.

00:14:27.000 That's one of the main takeaways.

00:14:28.000 It doesn't take a long time to figure that out.

00:14:31.000 Brothers killing each other, entire nations going to war, floods, disasters, famines, judgment, you name it.

00:14:39.000 There's rebellion against God's order.

00:14:41.000 It's like in our DNA, right?

00:14:43.000 It's in our operating system that our natural state is original sin.

00:14:47.000 We know that.

00:14:48.000 We believe it.

00:14:48.000 The rest of the world does not, by the way.

00:14:50.000 Just so you know, you go to college, they'll tell you people are naturally good.

00:14:54.000 That's a big difference.

00:14:55.000 That's a big deal, though.

00:14:56.000 If you think people are naturally good, then you have to explain why things are so bad.

00:15:00.000 And then they blame capitalism or the Constitution or the system, right?

00:15:04.000 That's why everything around them is a systemic issue where we believe things are mostly a soul issue.

00:15:08.000 Big difference, right?

00:15:09.000 Systemic versus the soul.

00:15:10.000 We can get into that if people are interested.

00:15:13.000 So, but what the Declaration did is it inverted the axis.

00:15:17.000 It said, okay, before this document, and of course there was the Magna Carta and the Mayflower Compact, but this really was the separation.

00:15:24.000 Now all of a sudden, we're going to recognize the sovereign as being the people.

00:15:30.000 Made in the image of God, King George, you're not in charge.

00:15:34.000 And it created a war.

00:15:36.000 We won, thankfully.

00:15:37.000 We won for a lot of different reasons.

00:15:39.000 We won because all we had to do was not lose.

00:15:40.000 That's a different distinction.

00:15:42.000 No, it's true.

00:15:43.000 When you think about it, when you're the country that's being invaded, all you have to do is not lose.

00:15:48.000 When you're the country invading, you have to win.

00:15:50.000 Big difference.

00:15:51.000 All you have to do is not give up, and you win.

00:15:53.000 You just have to exhaust the invader. 0.52

00:15:55.000 It's what the Taliban does, right? 0.95

00:15:57.000 Like, all right, we'll just wait two generations and they're going to give up. 0.74

00:16:00.000 Big difference.

00:16:01.000 We outlasted them because we had the resolve, we had the commitment.

00:16:03.000 We didn't win a lot of battles in the Revolutionary War. 0.53

00:16:06.000 You guys probably know that.

00:16:07.000 We kind of had a tough couple years, really.

00:16:09.000 We just didn't give up and outlasted them and ended up being victors.

00:16:13.000 And then we had this big question, which is the founding fathers were tasked with this dilemma of, well, what do we do?

00:16:20.000 Like, we have this document.

00:16:22.000 Okay, it's the Declaration.

00:16:24.000 This is why they're so exceptional and why no statue of Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, James Madison, John Jay, or Alexander Hamilton should ever be removed, ever.

00:16:31.000 And they should be studied, appreciated, and understood for who they were in their times, is because they decided not to take power for themselves.

00:16:39.000 You think Alexander the Great did that?

00:16:42.000 When Alexander the Great conquered, he's like, this is my territory.

00:16:44.000 We are Hellenizing this area.

00:16:46.000 Thanks for playing.

00:16:47.000 Show me another time in human history a winner of a war decided to give up power.

00:16:51.000 That doesn't happen very often.

00:16:53.000 It doesn't.

00:16:54.000 Napoleon, they had to put him on an island, literally.

00:16:56.000 It's like, stop causing problems.

00:16:58.000 It's true.

00:17:00.000 Stalin didn't really give up power very easily.

00:17:03.000 The point is that these were the first winners of a war.

00:17:06.000 And I stand to be corrected if any of you know some sort of, I don't know, Macedonian king or something that I don't know about.

00:17:15.000 I'm standing to be corrected that said, we win, we're going to be less powerful.

00:17:19.000 They very well could have created the Hamiltonian, Jeffersonian, and Washingtonian monarchy, and the people of America never would have questioned it.

00:17:30.000 They would have been like, yeah, that's just how things are.

00:17:32.000 We get it.

00:17:32.000 Okay, you get Virginia.

00:17:34.000 You know, you get Rhode Island.

00:17:35.000 You're not King George.

00:17:35.000 Stop taxing us, like, whatever.

00:17:37.000 So they decided to do something totally different.

00:17:38.000 Totally different.

00:17:39.000 Unique, unprecedented.

00:17:41.000 They decided, like, we're actually going to reread the Declaration, and we're actually going to do what it says.

00:17:48.000 So some of you, and in classical conversations, you guys are being educated properly.

00:17:52.000 But if you ever come in contact with these fake historians that work at the New York Times, they make this argument, and most of them in colleges are saying this too.

00:18:02.000 They say that the Declaration and Constitution are at odds with each other.

00:18:05.000 That they're two different, it's totally wrong.

00:18:08.000 They're perfectly interwoven with one another.

00:18:10.000 Because the Constitution answers all the complaints of the Declaration.

00:18:14.000 Because if you read the Declaration carefully, which I encourage all of you to do, you probably already have, which is it starts really broad, gets really narrow, and ends really broad.

00:18:20.000 And the really narrow part is, hey, King George, you're doing all this stuff wrong.

00:18:23.000 Like, you're abusing us, you're lying to us, you're doing deals with foreign countries, you know, you're doing all these different things.

00:18:29.000 And then the founders actually decided to solve it.

00:18:31.000 But it wasn't just that.

00:18:33.000 The Bill of Rights, which came in 1791, was large in part thanks to the Virginia Declaration of Rights that was done in 1776.

00:18:42.000 The point is that there was a bubbling up of a lot of these different things.

00:18:45.000 The founders decided to do the great leap forward.

00:18:49.000 And in the Constitutional Convention, they got Thomas Jefferson out of the way because he was probably too much of a problem.

00:18:54.000 Again, I'm a big Jefferson fan.

00:18:55.000 They had to send him to France to actually get a deal done.

00:18:57.000 It's true.

00:18:58.000 He was writing letters because he was a little bit too, what's the right word?

00:19:02.000 Anti-federalist would be a nice way to put it.

00:19:04.000 But one of the great things that you should study is the letters between Madison and Jefferson.

00:19:08.000 It's a beautiful dialogue.

00:19:10.000 We're basically Jefferson, you guys have probably heard this quote before that the tree of liberty is watered by the blood of tyrants.

00:19:18.000 Have you ever heard this quote before?

00:19:19.000 Totally misused all the time.

00:19:21.000 And then Madison responds to Jefferson.

00:19:23.000 He's like, yeah, that's probably not a good idea.

00:19:26.000 And Jefferson's like, yeah, you're right.

00:19:28.000 So it's like, you always got to kind of like look at, because Madison's always kind of calming down Jefferson.

00:19:33.000 But Jefferson was his own animal.

00:19:34.000 The point is that in 1787, the founders decided to do what was there, previously thought of as impossible.

00:19:42.000 A citizenry that will govern themselves first and foremost, that will enumerate God-granted natural rights, separate power, put in checks and balances.

00:19:50.000 But that wasn't the birthday.

00:19:52.000 The birthday is when they signed the Declaration.

00:19:54.000 You have to understand that, right?

00:19:56.000 And before the Constitution, you all know this.

00:19:57.000 Articles of Confederation fell apart a total disaster for a lot of different reasons.

00:20:02.000 And then the states had to ratify it.

00:20:03.000 That's another important point.

00:20:04.000 The states created the federal government.

00:20:05.000 The federal government didn't create the states.

00:20:08.000 Happy to get into the significance of that.

00:20:09.000 And then four years later, the Bill of Rights was officially ratified.

00:20:12.000 Now, let me just kind of go to the quote-unquote elephant in the room to equip you with the intellectual ammunition to either push back against people that don't know anything or maybe you have these own questions, which is the question of slavery.

00:20:24.000 Okay?

00:20:25.000 This is a massive fixation of the American academic ruling class.

00:20:29.000 They want to indict every founding father because slavery existed.

00:20:33.000 Okay?

00:20:33.000 Now, when was the first anti-slavery convention in the history of the planet?

00:20:37.000 Philadelphia in 1775, co-chaired by Benjamin Franklin.

00:20:40.000 The first state to abolish slavery, Vermont, because they were so inspired by the Declaration of Independence in the year 1777.

00:20:47.000 Thomas Jefferson, the original draft of the Declaration of Independence, in his own handwriting, admonishes King George for bringing the sin of slavery to the United States in his own handwriting.

00:20:57.000 They knew it was wrong.

00:20:58.000 They debated how to get rid of it.

00:21:01.000 In the 1780s, by the time the Constitution was ratified, nine out of 13 of the states had already independently abolished slavery.

00:21:07.000 Nine out of 13 had already independently abolished slavery.

00:21:11.000 In the 1790s, Thomas Jefferson, as governor of Virginia, was arguing for the abolition of slavery in Virginia.

00:21:18.000 George Washington famously said, if slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong.

00:21:21.000 He said some variation of that, so did Abraham Lincoln.

00:21:24.000 Thomas Jefferson, one of his first acts as president in March of 1803, signed a moratorium ending no new slaves coming into the United States in March of 1803, which was put in the Constitution to end slavery.

00:21:39.000 The provisions were there to end slavery.

00:21:41.000 Now, very unwise, deeply unhappy, and bored people.

00:21:46.000 I have a whole speech on boredom I could give.

00:21:49.000 We have the most bored society in American history, which is why we're the most unhappy and the most suicidal.

00:21:53.000 No, it's a very important thing.

00:21:55.000 For parents out there, never let your kids get bored.

00:21:58.000 And for you kids out there, do not let you get bored.

00:22:00.000 Be busy and always be putting goals.

00:22:02.000 No, it's very serious.

00:22:03.000 I mean, I know we can laugh about it.

00:22:04.000 Boredom is exactly when Satan creeps in, and all this next thing you know, your life is totally derailed.

00:22:09.000 Anyway, bored people just make up arguments that aren't true because they need purpose, so they just do weird things.

00:22:13.000 One of the things they say, one of the things they say is that we need to get rid of all the founding fathers because slavery existed while they breathed.

00:22:23.000 That's basically the argument, right?

00:22:25.000 They existed at the same time slavery existed, despite the fact they started the process of unraveling it, abolishing it, and getting rid of it.

00:22:31.000 And the fact that slavery pre-existed today, then, and by the way, there's more people in slavery today on the planet right now than there were back then, just so that we're all clear, okay?

00:22:40.000 Slavery happening on the U.S. southern border right now.

00:22:42.000 And I'm not legitimizing it, obviously, it's a moral stain, a moral sin.

00:22:45.000 But instead, what does the Bible say about how to judge people in history?

00:22:48.000 It's very, very clear.

00:22:50.000 You go look at the writings in Genesis about Noah.

00:22:53.000 What does it say about Noah?

00:22:54.000 Now, some of you that know your Torah might say, oh, it says that Noah was a righteous man.

00:22:58.000 It's true.

00:22:59.000 But what does it really say?

00:23:01.000 No, it says that Noah was a righteous man amongst those in his generation.

00:23:08.000 That's a weird way to put it, isn't it?

00:23:10.000 That means you compare Noah to Elijah might not be a great guy.

00:23:15.000 You always compare the person to the time that they're in.

00:23:19.000 Always.

00:23:20.000 What are the circumstances?

00:23:22.000 You know, so the founding fathers believed in human equality.

00:23:25.000 That doesn't mean that all people have the same skills.

00:23:28.000 Doesn't mean that everyone can run the fastest.

00:23:30.000 You know what one part of human equality is?

00:23:32.000 We all have one thing in common.

00:23:34.000 We were all born into a world we did not create.

00:23:37.000 Every person in the room today has that in common.

00:23:40.000 So Thomas Jefferson was born into a world that slavery existed.

00:23:43.000 By the time he died in 1823 or whatever, slavery was on the way out.

00:23:47.000 Or it was hotly debated and an abolitionist movement was sparked, large in part thanks to him.

00:23:51.000 That's a moral good for society and for humanity.

00:23:54.000 You won't hear that at most colleges or in most schools.

00:23:56.000 Okay, so I just had to do kind of that detour about slavery because I guarantee you, you'll encounter that through some person who thinks they actually know history.

00:24:03.000 Not in one private journal, not one private musing, not in any document will you ever find the founding fathers defending slavery ever, period, hard stop.

00:24:12.000 Does not happen.

00:24:13.000 Instead, the only arguments they make is about how they want to manage the union to stay together against a potential British invasion and making concessions with the southern states, if necessary, to keep the union together.

00:24:25.000 That's it.

00:24:26.000 That's as far as you'll get.

00:24:27.000 Okay.

00:24:28.000 But then as time went forward, the American project was born. 0.94

00:24:31.000 Republics are hard to last.

00:24:33.000 The United States Constitution is the longest lasting political document, unchanged since the beginning.

00:24:38.000 And I'll end with this kind of theme and then we can do questions.

00:24:40.000 Why is it the Constitution is just as true today in 2021 as it was in 1787?

00:24:48.000 It's because the Constitution was not written for the times.

00:24:51.000 It was written to stand the test of time.

00:24:52.000 Because the Founding Fathers were not writing a document based on what they saw in CNN at the time or whatever.

00:24:58.000 They were instead, they knew people.

00:24:58.000 No.

00:25:02.000 And they knew people didn't change.

00:25:05.000 And so you ask yourself the question, what's the worst thing a person can do?

00:25:12.000 Now, there's young people in this room, but we could go through all the evil stuff you could do.

00:25:18.000 Let's just put it that way.

00:25:18.000 Okay?

00:25:19.000 But even worse than that, even worse than individually you doing something evil, is collectivizing that evil and institutionalizing it.

00:25:28.000 So it's bad to murder, awful, obviously.

00:25:31.000 You know what's worse than that? 0.72

00:25:32.000 Stalin.

00:25:34.000 It's worse. 0.87

00:25:35.000 It's worse than just one murder.

00:25:36.000 It's like creating an infrastructure around murder.

00:25:39.000 So the founding fathers are like, okay, we know people are pretty messed up.

00:25:43.000 We know that they have a natural inclination to sin.

00:25:46.000 Let's make it really hard to make a government designed around the worst aspects of human behavior.

00:25:52.000 So what did they come up with?

00:25:53.000 Two things.

00:25:54.000 Separation of powers and checks and balances.

00:25:57.000 Basically, the Constitution is written to like, no matter how bad and corrupt and awful the people you send there, it's still really hard to get bad stuff done.

00:26:05.000 And it's still slow.

00:26:06.000 And it's still arduous.

00:26:07.000 And it's still painstaking.

00:26:08.000 It's really frustrating for those of us that want to get good stuff done at times, isn't it?

00:26:08.000 Now, it's hard.

00:26:12.000 Because we're always running into roadblocks and all of that.

00:26:14.000 Be glad the founders put that stuff in place.

00:26:16.000 Because they said, as bad as that is, you know how quickly things all of a sudden you could get rail cars going to death camps.

00:26:24.000 20th century is a pretty good illustration of what happens when you don't have a government built on checks and balances.

00:26:29.000 The whole 20th century told us that.

00:26:31.000 And make no mistake, I'm not putting FDR in the moral category of Stalin or Mao.

00:26:36.000 But FDR, the only reason he did not do more damage to the country was because he kept on getting stopped by the Constitution and the checks and balances.

00:26:46.000 He kept on running up against the slowdown of what the founders put in place because they knew there was this unquenchable thirst for people to become mini Alexander the Greats or Napoleons or Genghis Khans.

00:26:57.000 It's just no matter what you do, there's going to be a demagogue that wants to try to get power and it's going to lie to you and then try to abuse people.

00:27:05.000 The people that disagree with me, they're like, oh, no, no, no.

00:27:07.000 No, we can create utopia and people will stop wanting to do that.

00:27:11.000 Like, yeah, okay, thanks.

00:27:12.000 Not going to happen.

00:27:13.000 And this is an important thing.

00:27:15.000 The founders never tried to make heaven on earth.

00:27:17.000 They never, ever tried to make that through government.

00:27:19.000 They just tried to prevent an earthly version of hell from coming forward.

00:27:25.000 It's a massive difference.

00:27:27.000 And that's why they said, okay, we're going to try to decentralize things and put a check and balance to every corner.

00:27:32.000 So you live in this country, and it's on really fragile footing right now.

00:27:37.000 I'm not going to get into all the details.

00:27:39.000 You guys can figure it out yourselves.

00:27:40.000 You can ask me questions about it.

00:27:42.000 This is not a political talk.

00:27:43.000 In fact, I'm kind of bored with politics, to be perfectly honest.

00:27:45.000 I am.

00:27:46.000 I'm more interested in teaching young people about things that are true and are good and creating you to be good citizens, and you'll figure out the rest.

00:27:53.000 Why I say I'm bored with politics, I just think the conversations are so superficial and sloppy at times.

00:28:00.000 And I have no tolerance for people that trash the country, honestly.

00:28:02.000 I really don't, because it's such a gift that we've been given to live here.

00:28:06.000 And it's something that I think we have to preserve.

00:28:07.000 I think we have a moral obligation to do that.

00:28:10.000 And so, as young people, as students, you hear all this, you're like, well, that's a lot.

00:28:17.000 What do I do?

00:28:18.000 Well, at the younger the age you take responsibility as a citizen, the better chance our country has to survive.

00:28:27.000 And that means being aware of what's happening around you, knowing your founding documents, knowing the sacrifices of people that made before you, getting involved in the civic process, doing something about it.

00:28:39.000 The younger you do that and you reject cynicism, which is, oh, what matters?

00:28:44.000 It's all terrible, the better our country will be.

00:28:44.000 What does it matter?

00:28:48.000 Citizenship is rare and unique.

00:28:50.000 The current trajectory is to put us back into the box of serfs, subjects, and slaves, and away from citizens.

00:28:58.000 That is the current trajectory.

00:29:01.000 And you look at it from a biblical perspective, citizenship is absolutely biblical.

00:29:05.000 Caring about the land of which you are in, caring about your children, their future, their education, all these sorts of different things.

00:29:10.000 There's something unique about being an American.

00:29:12.000 It's in our history, it's in our culture, and it's in all of you.

00:29:16.000 One of the things that makes us different than any other country is our ability to step up and do the right thing after we've exhausted all of their options.

00:29:25.000 That's what Winston Churchill used to say about Americans.

00:29:28.000 And that means for young people out there, this is your country now.

00:29:33.000 And let me just give you some advice.

00:29:37.000 There's a movement right now in the country to try and obviously turn kids against their parents.

00:29:44.000 And it's done through this ridiculously misleading environmentalist movement, amongst other things.

00:29:52.000 It's your parents' fault that the environment's falling apart.

00:29:55.000 You kind of see this language.

00:29:56.000 First of all, the environment's not falling apart.

00:29:57.000 Okay, let's just be honest.

00:29:59.000 I could get into that. 0.77

00:30:00.000 It's such nonsense.

00:30:01.000 It's earth worship. 0.99

00:30:02.000 It's crazy.

00:30:03.000 But it's this idea that every person before you needs to be blamed for any unhappiness that you have.

00:30:10.000 Now, let me balance the argument.

00:30:12.000 Parents, there has been a raw deal given to most kids with lockdowns, vaccine mandates, and mask mandates and the technological nonsense the last year and a half.

00:30:19.000 But don't let your kid, instead, you tell your kids and students out there, don't blame others for your own problems.

00:30:28.000 That's generally a good rule for life.

00:30:32.000 Instead, ask yourself, what can I do to improve?

00:30:35.000 What can I do to lead a better life?

00:30:36.000 What can I do to be in better obedience to the Lord?

00:30:40.000 What can I do to live in better alignment to his commands?

00:30:44.000 That's not to say that you shouldn't complain about necessary when our borders are wide open.

00:30:49.000 Get in line.

00:30:50.000 I do that every day, okay?

00:30:52.000 But instead, it's all right, there's all these problems.

00:30:54.000 Am I going to let that impact my soul and who I am?

00:30:59.000 Because the enemy would love nothing more for you to start pointing fingers at why you're not happy or why you aren't living a life that's at peace or one that's trying to improve or be better.

00:31:10.000 So we live in a great country, and the future truly is yours.

00:31:15.000 And there's a lot of people that want to clamp down on it, but really assert yourself as a citizen, and our best days will be ahead.

00:31:20.000 Okay, let's do some questions and thank you for sitting through all that.

00:31:23.000 So thank you.

00:31:30.000 If you'd like to ask a question, you can line up right here.

00:31:33.000 Okay, so before we do the questions, I just want to say one thing.

00:31:37.000 We are going to reuse this conversation as a podcast and potentially some broadcast.

00:31:42.000 So if you're not comfortable being kind of rebroadcasted, I do want to just give that disclaimer ahead of time so that you guys have, if there's a privacy concern as a parent or as a student, I just want to make sure you're notified of that so you're not taken by surprise.

00:31:58.000 Okay, all right.

00:32:02.000 Hello, Mr. Kirk.

00:32:03.000 Thank you for being with us tonight.

00:32:04.000 I was at AmericaFest a few weeks ago, so I'm aware of the size of crowds that you can and do speak to.

00:32:10.000 So thank you for taking the time to be with us tonight.

00:32:13.000 My question is, with social media companies and the mainstream media, there is a problem with the public narrative and full honesty there.

00:32:27.000 Do you think that conservatives with companies like Blaze TV, The Daily Wire, Epic Times, and so many others, do you think conservatives have a chance of getting their voice really back into the public forum?

00:32:38.000 And what are the ramifications for the culture if we don't?

00:32:41.000 Yeah, it's a very good question.

00:32:43.000 Thank you.

00:32:44.000 Yes, I do.

00:32:45.000 I think that there's a lot of alternative media starting to be created.

00:32:50.000 That's very exciting.

00:32:52.000 And obviously, I do a podcast and radio show every day.

00:32:55.000 Thank you for those of you that listen and watch and support that.

00:32:57.000 We appreciate that, and it's growing like crazy.

00:33:00.000 We're really blessed by that.

00:33:02.000 Yeah, I mean, look, the problem is distribution.

00:33:05.000 I think eventually we're going to save that.

00:33:07.000 Rumble is solved that.

00:33:09.000 Rumble's a great company.

00:33:10.000 Rumble.com, R-U-M-B-L-Com is a great YouTube competitor.

00:33:14.000 YouTube is just awful in more ways than one.

00:33:18.000 I'm happy to talk more broadly about social media companies if you're okay with that.

00:33:23.000 So now we're going to get into the Q ⁇ A where I'm going to just kind of be very blunt.

00:33:26.000 And I just have to do be a disclaimer.

00:33:29.000 I don't mean offense to anybody, but just take what I say from 10 years of experience, fair amount of wisdom of speaking it 300 times a year and kind of seeing what's happening.

00:33:38.000 So please don't be offended by this, okay?

00:33:41.000 All right, I got my disclaimer out of the way because I care about you guys. 0.99

00:33:45.000 Young people should not get a phone until they're 18. 1.00

00:33:47.000 It's that simple, okay?

00:33:50.000 Now, students are saying, what, what, what?

00:33:52.000 Yes, you heard me right.

00:33:56.000 These are portals into the unknown.

00:33:58.000 You are giving your soul, the future, and your child to some weird tech guy that doesn't care at all about your kid's future.

00:34:08.000 The people that have made Facebook, the people that have made Pinterest, the people that make Gmail and YouTube, they don't let their own kids use these products because they know how psychologically addictive they are.

00:34:17.000 For all the major companies, they have neuroscientists that work for them full-time that study eight-year-olds, nine-year-olds, and 10-year-olds on how to make these boxes of nonsense and boxes of chaos, which are betterly known as iPhones, more chemically addictive to your kids.

00:34:37.000 I say this as humbly as I can.

00:34:39.000 Parents, most of you have no idea how dangerous these things are.

00:34:43.000 You might think you do.

00:34:44.000 I encourage you to just listen to what we've exposed.

00:34:48.000 We've had all the experts on our show, how bad it is for your kid, how much it stunts their view of who they are in the world and their identity.

00:34:59.000 I thank the Lord every single day.

00:35:01.000 I grew up in an America 10 years ago, 10 years ago, without these things.

00:35:08.000 I don't know if I would be the person I was today if I had the anxiety, the self-image, the push notifications, and I'm talking about all across the board, from TikTok, which is obviously garbage, to Instagram, which is garbage, to all of it.

00:35:22.000 And I say this as someone who has millions of followers and all these things.

00:35:25.000 I don't care.

00:35:27.000 If you said, Charlie, would you lose all those followers in an instant if that meant kids wouldn't be using these?

00:35:32.000 I'd sign that in a second.

00:35:34.000 It'd be so good for humanity.

00:35:36.000 Now, obviously, I'm talking ideally, idealistically.

00:35:40.000 After this conversation, most people in this room won't take what I said seriously, right?

00:35:44.000 So, how about this?

00:35:44.000 Do one day a week where you don't have a phone, okay?

00:35:47.000 I do the Shabbos.

00:35:48.000 I encourage you guys to do it as well.

00:35:50.000 It's beautiful, the Sabbath.

00:35:52.000 And I do 24 hours, no phone.

00:35:54.000 If I can do it, I think you guys can do it as well.

00:35:54.000 It's awesome.

00:35:57.000 But I just, I want, if you wouldn't give your nine-year-old a nine-millimeter without supervision, do not give them a tablet.

00:36:06.000 The tablet's much more dangerous.

00:36:08.000 I'm not kidding.

00:36:09.000 You want to know why suicide is the highest it's ever been?

00:36:13.000 Why we have the most medicated, least happy, you know, least godly generation in history.

00:36:19.000 It's like, yeah, we've decided to hand them these devices.

00:36:23.000 And this is an interesting argument, right?

00:36:25.000 Where some people say, well, technology is what you do with it.

00:36:29.000 That's partially true, but I don't agree with that.

00:36:31.000 So technology, like the way, for example, it's like, okay, a car is what you do with it.

00:36:36.000 It could help you get you there faster as long as you use it safely.

00:36:38.000 We're dealing with something completely different because there's somebody on the other side of this one.

00:36:43.000 And they're monetizing your 11-year-old to try to get them to hate themselves.

00:36:48.000 And they're good at it.

00:36:49.000 So they keep on opening up their Instagram feed to see if the dopamine will keep on rushed.

00:36:54.000 99 out of 100 times, they're programming your 11-year-old daughter to hate themselves.

00:36:54.000 And guess what?

00:36:59.000 Until that one time they like themselves, they keep on coming back through body image issues, through self-worth issues, all of it goes back to these things.

00:37:07.000 And so I'm on an anti-technology crusade to try to tell parents it's okay not to give the phone to your child.

00:37:14.000 It's the loving thing to do.

00:37:15.000 Thank you.

00:37:22.000 Hi, I just want to say thank you so much for being here tonight.

00:37:25.000 My question is: as a young adult, just I'm going to be graduating this year.

00:37:31.000 What are some simple but effective ways that I can reach out to other people who aren't blessed to be homeschooled and know these things?

00:37:41.000 So a graduating high school?

00:37:42.000 Or awesome.

00:37:44.000 Thank you.

00:37:44.000 Congratulations.

00:37:45.000 Yeah, so some good ways to reach out to people.

00:37:49.000 You could join Turning Point USA.

00:37:51.000 We got no shortage of people that don't know what they're talking about that we talk to.

00:37:56.000 That's okay.

00:37:57.000 We love on them with truth, which is the best way to love on people, actually.

00:38:02.000 Different talk for a different time.

00:38:04.000 You guys can ask about it if you want.

00:38:06.000 Yeah, so you obviously have a heart to try to reach out to people, which is awesome.

00:38:11.000 I would encourage you, I don't know if you plan to go to college or not.

00:38:15.000 Maybe you do, maybe you don't.

00:38:17.000 That's going to come later once you guys, before I run out the whole room out of here, right, Rachel?

00:38:22.000 You got to get them to, yeah, I could do the college thing.

00:38:24.000 Is that all right?

00:38:25.000 Maybe later.

00:38:26.000 I have some very strong opinions about college.

00:38:29.000 That comes later.

00:38:31.000 But yeah, I would just, so the first thing is this, is that people say, Charlie, I want to change the world.

00:38:36.000 Well, first, focus on yourself, right?

00:38:39.000 More damage has been done to the human species than people that want to change the world that refuse to change themselves.

00:38:44.000 Okay?

00:38:45.000 That's one of the most dangerous equations ever.

00:38:48.000 Ever.

00:38:49.000 So that's the first thing, which obviously you know because you're homeschooled.

00:38:52.000 The second thing is then your immediate circle, which is the most difficult, right?

00:38:55.000 And so I say this as personally.

00:38:57.000 It's a lot easier.

00:38:58.000 I kid you not.

00:39:00.000 It's so much easier for me to go to Berkeley and speak than with my immediate family.

00:39:05.000 It's infinitely easier for me to go to Vermont than to speak with my cousins about politics.

00:39:10.000 Like, I'll do that all day long, okay?

00:39:12.000 You can throw stuff at me.

00:39:14.000 I don't care.

00:39:15.000 But if it's like someone I grew up with, like, hold on, right?

00:39:18.000 Can we talk about football, please?

00:39:19.000 Come on.

00:39:21.000 You know it.

00:39:21.000 Right?

00:39:22.000 That's my, that's, so here's the issue when it comes to that.

00:39:27.000 And I get both arguments.

00:39:28.000 I'm actually really not, I'm not, I'm torn.

00:39:31.000 Because half of it is like, I want to keep my family still talking to me.

00:39:34.000 I don't know if I need to be like picked up at the airport at 3 a.m.

00:39:37.000 I don't want to like lose all every cousin.

00:39:40.000 And it's just probably not good for society.

00:39:43.000 But the other side is, don't they deserve to know the truth, right?

00:39:48.000 And maybe it won't happen in the fourth conversation, maybe the 40th conversation of asking them very simple questions.

00:39:54.000 Maybe that might turn them around, right?

00:39:57.000 So I'm not here.

00:39:58.000 So I'm sure you have, maybe every family member agrees with you.

00:40:02.000 I don't know.

00:40:02.000 Maybe not.

00:40:03.000 I know that's not the case for me, for sure, but that would be my charge to you, is focus on people in your immediate circle.

00:40:09.000 But I'm going to warn you, that can be the most difficult, disappointing, and challenging things, but it will mature you very quickly.

00:40:19.000 And I encourage that for every parent out there is in a very polite way trying to put your kids in situations where they're challenged early is a very, very big deal and an important thing.

00:40:33.000 I hope that's somewhat helpful.

00:40:34.000 Appreciate it.

00:40:34.000 So thank you.

00:40:39.000 Hi.

00:40:39.000 I want to thank you again.

00:40:40.000 Just echo what these other kids have said for being here.

00:40:43.000 I'm really appreciative.

00:40:45.000 So my question is, how do you think the United States can move more towards a true free market in our healthcare system?

00:40:50.000 Yeah, that's a big one.

00:40:52.000 That's a big one.

00:40:53.000 Yeah.

00:40:54.000 Look, I already did all the disclaimers.

00:40:56.000 So if you guys have disagreed by now, you'd be gone.

00:40:59.000 So yeah, look, I've always been kind of a skeptic of the institutionalized healthcare system.

00:41:08.000 The last year and a half has just really set me to the moon.

00:41:12.000 And I'm not here to tell anyone what to do with their personal medical decisions ever, obviously.

00:41:17.000 Everyone makes their own decisions that they see fit.

00:41:19.000 What's really bothered me, though, is the lack of willingness from our public health people and from even companies to empower people on treatments that very well might save lives.

00:41:32.000 And it's been one of the great injustices of my lifetime, the fact we're not even able to talk about how vitamin D levels have a direct correlation to COVID mortality rates.

00:41:40.000 Let's just start there, right?

00:41:42.000 It's in 195 different studies that if you have a vitamin D level over 50, you have an exponentially higher likelihood of surviving a cytocosine storm that happens that's inflicted by COVID, right?

00:41:53.000 I don't know about you.

00:41:54.000 I haven't seen one public health bulletin, one radio advertisement, one billboard that says, try to get your vitamin D levels up, get it tested at your doctor.

00:42:02.000 Maybe you guys have seen those advertisements, but I sure have seen about the equivalent of a multi-billion dollar propaganda project trying to tell people to get vaccinated, right?

00:42:11.000 And so I think to myself, that's just a very simple wellness thing, right?

00:42:14.000 Vitamin D levels over 50, not controversial, end of story.

00:42:18.000 Why is that not even talked about, right?

00:42:20.000 And the issue, and I hate to be so cynical, is I'm afraid that a lot of companies are making a lot of money around trying to get people to come back for the same sort of medicine that they might like, or that they might work, and maybe it works, maybe it doesn't.

00:42:34.000 If you guys want to, I'm happy to get into that.

00:42:34.000 I'm not going to get into that tonight.

00:42:36.000 That's not why I'm here tonight.

00:42:37.000 But you can listen to my podcast.

00:42:38.000 I have every doctor you could imagine from Dr. McCullough, Dr. Malone, Dr. Zelenko, that talk at great length about that, if you're interested.

00:42:46.000 I'm just making a broader generalization.

00:42:48.000 Your question specifically, how do we get closer to a free market?

00:42:51.000 I think one of the encouraging things, though, is that the consumer, you, you're demanding more out of your doctor, and I think that's exciting.

00:42:59.000 I think that you're not satisfied that if you get COVID and your doctor says, oh yeah, just go home and nurse the symptoms, and then if you get bad enough, go to the hospital, which that's being told to a lot of patients across the country, which I consider to be an unbelievable injustice, right?

00:43:13.000 And I'm sure there's doctors in this audience that do a wonderful job, but I hear that all the time, right?

00:43:18.000 All the time.

00:43:19.000 And it really pains me.

00:43:21.000 So I think that it's going to come from you.

00:43:21.000 It does.

00:43:23.000 It's going to come from the consumers demanding wellness first and foremost and demanding transparency and information.

00:43:30.000 And then also, from a public policy perspective, we subsidize from the federal government and the state government broken hospital systems.

00:43:40.000 Maybe you guys think the hospitals are wonderful.

00:43:43.000 I think they're largely broken and they rob taxpayers blind.

00:43:48.000 So thank you.

00:43:49.000 Thank you so much.

00:43:52.000 All right.

00:43:53.000 Thank you again for being here.

00:43:55.000 I've loved listening to you and people like Candace Owens.

00:43:58.000 I have a question about abortion because some people in my extended family have sort of, in conversations I've had with them, brought up arguments like the life of a mother would be ruined if she had to carry to term and her standing in society would be changed.

00:44:15.000 She wouldn't be able to have all the opportunities she would have if she had an abortion. 1.00

00:44:19.000 So I've had trouble sort of responding to that and interacting with that.

00:44:24.000 So I was wondering what your thoughts were.

00:44:26.000 So let me just say, before I talk about this topic, there's some young kids.

00:44:26.000 Thank you.

00:44:32.000 If parents don't feel comfortable with kids having exposure to this topic, I just want to give you a warning.

00:44:37.000 You're sure?

00:44:37.000 Is that okay?

00:44:38.000 Okay.

00:44:39.000 So I'm going to get into it.

00:44:39.000 All right.

00:44:41.000 Again, I never ever want to rob a child of innocence.

00:44:44.000 The left does that every day.

00:44:45.000 I think it's one of the most immoral things a human being can do is robbing a child of innocence.

00:44:48.000 I really, I never want to be responsible for that.

00:44:50.000 I think it's disgusting.

00:44:51.000 Okay.

00:44:52.000 Look, let's just get to the bottom of it.

00:44:54.000 They want the pleasure that comes from sex with no responsibility.

00:44:56.000 That's why they're so obsessed about abortion. 0.99

00:44:58.000 Okay?

00:44:59.000 They want to have unfettered access to human pleasure without ever having to take responsibility for it.

00:45:07.000 Now, what you're talking about is the life of the mother.

00:45:10.000 So it is an exceedingly rare situation, beyond rare.

00:45:14.000 We're talking about a couple dozen situations a year where the life of the mother is legitimately compromised, where an OBGYN will say that the termination of the child will result in the continuation of the life of the mother.

00:45:25.000 This happens only with maybe petite women or very, very young women, if at all.

00:45:31.000 There is a society of Christian pro-life OBGYNs that are saying it doesn't happen at all.

00:45:37.000 I'm not willing to make that argument.

00:45:38.000 I've seen contracting data, but it's so statistically improbable that it's not even worthy of conversation, right?

00:45:46.000 It really, in a country where we have 3,000 abortions a day, we're talking about a handful of a couple dozen, maybe.

00:45:54.000 And that's not even, by the way, entertaining the potential attempt of the early delivery of the child, right?

00:46:00.000 A C-section and many other potential deliveries that might help save the mother.

00:46:05.000 Now, putting the life of the mother in danger was a big deal in the 1300s, right?

00:46:12.000 We have such sophisticated technology that can aid a mother through intravenous technology, make sure the mom continues to be hydrated, monitoring the child, and so on and so forth.

00:46:21.000 Okay, life begins at conception.

00:46:23.000 Regardless of what any pro-abortion person might say, the beginning of the creation of the deoxorbonucleic acid, the meeting of the sperm and the egg, that is a life made unique in total essence in the image of God.

00:46:36.000 Now, your specific question is that the standing of a woman in society. 1.00

00:46:40.000 Okay, completely different moral issue, right?

00:46:44.000 Not really concerned about a woman's social status when a life is involved, okay?

00:46:50.000 So make better decisions.

00:46:52.000 Now, someone says, well, what about rape or incest?

00:46:55.000 Okay, I have a lot of compassion for that.

00:46:57.000 That's still a life.

00:46:58.000 And that life is worthy of protection.

00:47:00.000 And I could change anyone on this because some people here say, Charlie, I don't know, you lost me at rape or incest.

00:47:05.000 Okay, if I had a picture of a baby here in the womb and a picture of a baby here in the womb, I said one of those is a baby by rape.

00:47:12.000 Which one is it? 0.97

00:47:14.000 You wouldn't know.

00:47:15.000 Therefore, both lives are worthy of protection.

00:47:17.000 It's that simple.

00:47:18.000 And so we as a society have failed on this question largely because we have allowed unrestricted teenage premarital sex without telling children to wait for marriage before having sex.

00:47:33.000 It's an uncomfortable thing to say out loud, but that's really the root of all this.

00:47:37.000 The abortion crisis basically goes away in America if we tell young people to wait for their selective partner for marriage.

00:47:45.000 All of this is basically of a hookup culture, an instant gratification culture.

00:47:50.000 No one likes to say it out loud, including many conservative politicians, because they're afraid they're going to lose their constituency.

00:47:55.000 I don't know what constituency they think they're serving.

00:47:58.000 I'm not running for office anytime soon.

00:48:00.000 I'm willing to get to the bottom of it, right?

00:48:01.000 Which is that if people took responsibility for their actions and saved themselves for a partner that hopefully they'll meet one day, then much of this would go away.

00:48:12.000 And they want abortion to be a form of birth control.

00:48:14.000 A million abortions a year is a moral stain on our country. 0.99

00:48:17.000 So did that answer your question?

00:48:19.000 Is there any other part of that that I didn't cover?

00:48:21.000 Yeah, no, definitely.

00:48:22.000 All right, thank you so much.

00:48:23.000 All right, thank you.

00:48:28.000 I just want to thank you for being here.

00:48:29.000 I really appreciate it.

00:48:31.000 My question is, if someone wants to go into a career in politics, what one piece of advice would you give?

00:48:38.000 Great question.

00:48:39.000 Don't go to college.

00:48:42.000 All right, can I get to that part of the conversation tonight?

00:48:45.000 Okay, so I think I did all the proper disclaimers.

00:48:49.000 All right, for 95% of people, college is a scam and a waste of time.

00:48:53.000 Okay, let me just get into it.

00:48:55.000 I say this is, so I'm the best and the worst person to talk about this, but I'm going to pretend I'm the best.

00:48:59.000 I'm going to tell you why the worst.

00:49:00.000 I didn't go to college, okay?

00:49:02.000 Therefore, I'm the best person to tell you what you could do without going to college, right?

00:49:05.000 So, but then people say, oh, Charlie, you don't know what you're talking about because you haven't gone.

00:49:09.000 Okay, in all fairness, what learn?

00:49:12.000 160 schools I've spoken at, and we have thousands of groups across the country.

00:49:16.000 I have a pretty good pulse of what's happening on college campuses, right?

00:49:19.000 Okay, your question was about politics.

00:49:21.000 I'll get to it in a second.

00:49:22.000 But let me just kind of say this.

00:49:24.000 Unless you're willing to play Russian roulette with your beautiful child's values in future, do not send them to college.

00:49:31.000 And the chamber is five bullets in one blank.

00:49:34.000 It's that simple.

00:49:35.000 I meet parents all the time.

00:49:37.000 And the thing that I always ask them, without a doubt, I could see it in their eyes, Charlie, I'm such a big fan, da-da-da-da-da.

00:49:44.000 And my kids, I stop them.

00:49:45.000 Say, how many share your values?

00:49:48.000 And most say half.

00:49:50.000 I say, well, where did they go to college?

00:49:53.000 And they say, well, yeah, of course I lost my college.

00:49:54.000 I sent them to Texas, Oklahoma.

00:49:56.000 It's one of the great moral tragedies of our time that no one really wants to say out loud is that you raise your child in a way that you want them to go.

00:50:02.000 You put all of this energy in their homeschooling upbringing to go send them to some school to get, what, a piece of paper?

00:50:07.000 Like, really?

00:50:08.000 It's totally unnecessary in most fields, completely and totally unnecessary.

00:50:12.000 Now, if you want to be a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer, fine. 0.93

00:50:15.000 But to go study like North African lesbian poetry to like, I don't quite get it. 0.92

00:50:20.000 I don't.

00:50:23.000 You will learn nothing of use at most colleges.

00:50:26.000 Nothing.

00:50:26.000 Take Hillsdale online courses.

00:50:28.000 Go watch anything from classical conversations.

00:50:31.000 By the way, most of you are smarter than all the college kids I deal with.

00:50:34.000 Your questions are already way wiser.

00:50:35.000 I'm not kidding.

00:50:36.000 You think I'm kidding? 1.00

00:50:37.000 College is where most people go get really stupid. 1.00

00:50:40.000 No, it's not a joke. 1.00

00:50:42.000 And you might say, I don't know what I'm talking about.

00:50:45.000 Respectfully, I do.

00:50:46.000 Okay, I run a college organization.

00:50:48.000 I visit these schools.

00:50:49.000 I hire them.

00:50:50.000 Okay?

00:50:52.000 I do.

00:50:53.000 And I could tell you that if you care about your kid, you need to be very careful.

00:50:58.000 Now, there's some good schools.

00:50:59.000 Hillsdale is a great school.

00:51:00.000 And I'm torn.

00:51:01.000 It's all about who your child is, right?

00:51:04.000 For some kids, they're super bullheaded.

00:51:07.000 They know what they believe.

00:51:08.000 And they could use a little dose of liberal exposure.

00:51:11.000 That's a very rare kid, by the way.

00:51:13.000 No, seriously.

00:51:14.000 Some kids, they're like, all right, you think you know what you're talking about too much.

00:51:18.000 We're going to go send you to Brown and, like, you know what I mean?

00:51:21.000 Very rare.

00:51:23.000 Okay?

00:51:24.000 But most are still trying to find their way in the world.

00:51:26.000 And you're going to drop a child into the most vulnerable place where they're already hyper-anxious because of social media.

00:51:35.000 They're already off the charts with these other things.

00:51:38.000 And they will be manipulated by professors that frame things inaccurately, deteriorate the moral code that they were raised with, because college is really good at giving people degrees of ingratitude.

00:51:47.000 That's what they do.

00:51:48.000 They make you unthankful.

00:51:49.000 Okay, to your point about politics.

00:51:52.000 In politics, the cool thing is that it just matters how hard you work.

00:51:57.000 That's what matters the most.

00:51:59.000 If you really want to be in a career in politics, first and foremost, I want people to go into politics.

00:52:03.000 I want to do something, not be somebody, okay?

00:52:06.000 That you really want to see something change, right?

00:52:08.000 That's really important.

00:52:09.000 The second thing, though, is that the cool thing about politics, very, very few industries are this way.

00:52:15.000 It's as close to a pure meritocracy of anything you'll ever come across.

00:52:20.000 Very close.

00:52:22.000 Where it's like, for example, you're working for a campaign.

00:52:24.000 It's like the first one there and the last one there is going to get promoted to a deputy campaign manager really quick.

00:52:30.000 Like really quick.

00:52:31.000 It's just, it's so many hours, it's so much output.

00:52:34.000 And the thing, why is that?

00:52:35.000 It's because you have a goal in a short period of time, right?

00:52:39.000 There is an election day.

00:52:40.000 We got to get it done.

00:52:41.000 Therefore, it's rewarded quicker and you can move up really quick.

00:52:45.000 But the opposite is the same thing.

00:52:48.000 So, but you also just kind of, my advice for people want to get involved in politics is just know what you believe and why you believe it and what you want to try to do in the world.

00:52:55.000 And that's really important.

00:52:56.000 So, and then never stop learning, is my other piece of advice.

00:53:00.000 And every person who wants to get involved in politics should start with knocking on doors.

00:53:04.000 I started my career knocking on 100,000 doors in suburban Chicago for congressional candidates and Senate candidates.

00:53:09.000 You want to learn a lot about the world, about yourself, about your stamina, about how people view things.

00:53:15.000 Go knock on doors in the north side of Chicago in Highland Park and ask them to go vote for Republican.

00:53:20.000 Seriously.

00:53:21.000 You learn a lot about the world.

00:53:24.000 And you figure out whether or not you want to keep doing this.

00:53:28.000 And so that's my advice: where so many kids get involved in politics.

00:53:31.000 I want to get famous.

00:53:31.000 I want to do this.

00:53:32.000 I want to do that.

00:53:34.000 Go work for a campaign.

00:53:36.000 Go make phone calls.

00:53:37.000 Go knock on doors.

00:53:38.000 Get the leaflets and figure out if this is actually what I do.

00:53:41.000 Okay.

00:53:41.000 Thank you.

00:53:42.000 Appreciate it.

00:53:46.000 Thank you for being here.

00:53:46.000 Hello.

00:53:48.000 My question is: if you're a woman trying to pursue your sport, how are we supposed to, I don't know, fight men trying to transition over and taking the records and scholarships from women? 0.94

00:54:03.000 Thank you for asking this question.

00:54:05.000 So this is where it's been interesting because I'm in a business where the Lord has blessed me, where I could say whatever I want, whatever I want to say it, and I've been doing that for a while.

00:54:16.000 And then I kind of have this meeting of people that are so good and they see something so wrong and they're so afraid to say what they see as wrong.

00:54:25.000 And this is like one of the most number one issue, right?

00:54:28.000 Where I get these beautiful emails from mothers who are just so agreeable and they're just great people, right?

00:54:34.000 And they're so intimidated by the alphabet mafia, right? 0.98

00:54:38.000 The LGBTQ, whatever, right? 1.00

00:54:40.000 That they wouldn't dare say anything against it, right? 1.00

00:54:46.000 And so, yeah, I say this.

00:54:48.000 First, let me just say this.

00:54:49.000 Everyone needs Jesus Christ.

00:54:51.000 It's the most important thing.

00:54:52.000 Everyone, including the man who's competing in women's sports, University of Pennsylvania, and destroying women's swimming.

00:54:58.000 I want him to come back into communion with Christ.

00:55:00.000 It's very important.

00:55:02.000 Before this entire kind of trans movement, there used to be a psychological condition called gender dysphoria where this would be diagnosed as.

00:55:14.000 It's a very serious thing where someone thinks they are a separate gender than what they are. 0.96

00:55:18.000 There are treatment options, non-medical, by the way, of getting to root causes.

00:55:22.000 Maybe you were really poorly treated by your current gender when you were a kid. 0.55

00:55:26.000 Maybe you have father issues and you're a boy.

00:55:28.000 There's a lot of different things that could play into it.

00:55:30.000 But therapy and treatment needs to be something that we talk about with that.

00:55:33.000 Okay.

00:55:34.000 But if we're not also simultaneously willing to say that men that compete in women's sports are nothing short of cheaters, then we are kidding ourselves. 0.93

00:55:45.000 That women's sports should not be an open-air athletic therapy place for people that have serious mental problems. 0.65

00:55:55.000 Because you deserve better than that. 0.85

00:55:56.000 We believe there are differences between men and women.

00:55:59.000 I grew up in a country where feminists used to scream in my face about that, about how men and women are so different that we need special laws designed for women. 1.00

00:56:08.000 Okay.

00:56:10.000 I was against that then and against that now, but I understood the argument that at least there were biological differences between men and women.

00:56:16.000 Now it's like, nope, there's no difference.

00:56:17.000 Men can give birth.

00:56:19.000 You get fired from Google for saying that. 1.00

00:56:21.000 It's true. 1.00

00:56:22.000 And most colleges, if you say that only women can give birth, you'll get kicked out of school. 1.00

00:56:22.000 You get fired. 1.00

00:56:26.000 I'm not kidding.

00:56:27.000 Most colleges.

00:56:29.000 I have a whole speech on how bad colleges are, right?

00:56:32.000 But when parents hear that, like, what?

00:56:33.000 It's true.

00:56:34.000 The Biden administration, when they came out with their guidelines, what did they say? 1.00

00:56:42.000 Birthing people. 1.00

00:56:44.000 It's true. 1.00

00:56:45.000 When they proposed income aid for people that have given birth, moms, they refused to put mothers in the official White House document. 0.93

00:56:53.000 They said birthing people.

00:56:57.000 It's bad.

00:56:58.000 And it's bad because of something you might not expect.

00:57:01.000 And this is where I can play a role, and I'm happy to, you guys can all rest on my shoulders.

00:57:06.000 My only advice is just speak out a little bit.

00:57:09.000 We're way too agreeable as a country, everybody.

00:57:11.000 This is nonsense. 1.00

00:57:13.000 It's garbage. 1.00

00:57:14.000 And we are afraid of losing friends or social status or whatever. 0.99

00:57:19.000 And they are bulldozing decency and our girls' future in sports. 1.00

00:57:25.000 It's just the way it is.

00:57:27.000 And again, happy to bear the brunt of a lot. 0.57

00:57:30.000 You're transphobic.

00:57:31.000 Actually, I'm kind of afraid of women's sports being abolished. 1.00

00:57:34.000 Like, thanks for mentioning that.

00:57:35.000 I kind of am.

00:57:37.000 I think it's awful.

00:57:38.000 I think it's terrible.

00:57:39.000 And it's unfair to all of our female competitors that work so hard. 1.00

00:57:42.000 And there's so many other issues of that.

00:57:43.000 So your specific question is: what can you do?

00:57:46.000 Not a lot without losing a lot.

00:57:48.000 I'm going to be very honest with you.

00:57:49.000 They will condemn you.

00:57:50.000 They will ostracize you.

00:57:51.000 They'll say you have no compassion.

00:57:52.000 You have none of this stuff.

00:57:53.000 This is a fight for your parents to start to pound the table, to be perfectly honest, right?

00:57:57.000 I'm starting to see more and more parents do this.

00:57:59.000 You guys are all doing a wonderful job.

00:58:01.000 You wouldn't be here tonight on Friday night if you guys didn't get it.

00:58:03.000 But we really have to start to see parents say this is not going to happen, right?

00:58:07.000 This has no place at all whatsoever.

00:58:09.000 We can have a heart for these people.

00:58:11.000 We can get them into treatment, get them to therapy, but you're not going to abolish the competitive future. 0.90

00:58:15.000 And just to fill out in the gaps for everybody here, women's swimming is done. 0.92

00:58:20.000 Women's swimming is no more.

00:58:21.000 Every record that was once held in collegiate women's swimming has been broken by a man by 30 to 45 seconds.

00:58:27.000 It's done.

00:58:28.000 Over, gone. 0.94

00:58:29.000 So if you're a woman that's a swimmer and you want to be in college, it's gone. 1.00

00:58:32.000 It's done. 0.89

00:58:33.000 You'll never compete at the equal footing ever again.

00:58:37.000 And so this is the final point: it really comes down to this question of justice, right?

00:58:43.000 Those of you that are classically educated probably read a lot about justice because that's in the human soul is a yearning for justice, right?

00:58:49.000 How do we know that?

00:58:51.000 Without ever having to tell them, a two-year-old that has a toy taken away from them says that's not fair.

00:58:56.000 It's true.

00:58:57.000 They know in their soul that that toy should not just be taken away without an explanation.

00:59:04.000 Within the upbringing of a child is a yearning for things to be fair.

00:59:09.000 Just.

00:59:10.000 Justice is a debt.

00:59:11.000 That's the best way you can explain justice to a kid.

00:59:13.000 Justice is a debt that is owed.

00:59:16.000 Meaning, you did something wrong, something must happen.

00:59:18.000 This is massively unjust.

00:59:19.000 It is on every single level.

00:59:21.000 So, I don't mean to kind of do a detour on that, but this really is the regime of political correctness.

00:59:27.000 It is.

00:59:27.000 People that know something that's wrong, that do not want to say anything because of the penalty that might exist.

00:59:33.000 The country will become a lot more free the moment that good people stop caring what they can lose for doing what's right.

00:59:40.000 Thank you.

00:59:45.000 Hi, Mr. Kirk.

00:59:47.000 I would like to thank you again for being here.

00:59:50.000 My question is: you did touch on how kids can be, that you'd want to teach kids how to be good citizens.

00:59:59.000 You did touch a little bit on how they could be in this world, but could you tell me a little bit more how they could be spiritually a good citizen?

01:00:08.000 Absolutely, yes.

01:00:09.000 We're in the midst of a spiritual war.

01:00:11.000 Everything physical is a manifestation of things that are happening in the spiritual.

01:00:16.000 For young people, that's important.

01:00:18.000 The sooner you realize that, the better, and the more important.

01:00:22.000 Look, I'll go back to Philippians 4:6, 7, and 8, right?

01:00:26.000 Philippians 4:6, I say this to any young person that is dealing with anxiety, which is, by the way, 75% of kids under the age of 15 say they have serious anxiety issues, 75%.

01:00:36.000 Well, the first line of Philippians 4:6 is: Do not be anxious, but instead, through prayer, thanksgiving, and supplication, let your request be known to God.

01:00:44.000 So, let's just start with that.

01:00:45.000 Do not be anxious, but it gives you three things to do: supplication, prayer, and thanksgiving.

01:00:50.000 Pastor can explain what supplication is a lot better than I can.

01:00:53.000 So, I'll stick with thanksgiving and prayer, okay?

01:00:55.000 Prayer is a real thing.

01:00:56.000 You need to pray to God every single day.

01:00:58.000 I encourage verbally, and you need to have custom, personalized, and sincere prayer.

01:01:03.000 Remember, Jesus said that the hard things come to people who do what?

01:01:06.000 Fast and pray.

01:01:07.000 Prayer is a real, real thing, and you should not forsake that.

01:01:10.000 Thanksgiving.

01:01:11.000 I love Thanksgiving, the holiday.

01:01:12.000 That's not what Paul's talking about, obviously.

01:01:15.000 But every day, you should say intentionally things that you're thankful for.

01:01:20.000 People say, Charlie, how can I be happy?

01:01:23.000 I get these questions.

01:01:24.000 I have a lot of listeners.

01:01:26.000 We have an eclectic mix.

01:01:28.000 I say, What are you thankful for?

01:01:30.000 Oh, I never thought of that.

01:01:32.000 Thankful people are happier people.

01:01:34.000 When you're thankful for things, you're not like, oh, let's ruin everything.

01:01:38.000 Right, so then Philippians 4:7, 4:7 continues by saying, For the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, right, will guard your heart and mind through Christ Jesus.

01:01:51.000 So, how do you be a good person?

01:01:53.000 Well, by accepting the peace of God and Jesus Christ as the chairman of the board of your life.

01:01:58.000 And then, Philippians 4:8, which I can never ever remember every one of them, but it's basically what is good, what is noble, what is true, what is the rest.

01:02:05.000 Thank you.

01:02:05.000 Praiseworthy.

01:02:06.000 Yes, thank you.

01:02:08.000 Think and dwell on these things.

01:02:09.000 Those three verses, I think, are so incredibly important for any young person that is looking for their place in the world.

01:02:16.000 You got everything from what to think about, what to do, what's supposed to come is the promise.

01:02:20.000 And then Romans 12:2 is: Do not conform to the ways of this world, but instead be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

01:02:26.000 That's a great verse for a young person.

01:02:28.000 It comes with a do-not statement.

01:02:29.000 Paul loved do-not statements, loved them, did them a lot, but also comes with a promise, a promise of transformation.

01:02:37.000 That's a big deal.

01:02:38.000 So, do not conform.

01:02:39.000 What does that mean?

01:02:40.000 Don't drink.

01:02:42.000 Don't do weed with your friends.

01:02:44.000 Save yourself for marriage.

01:02:45.000 Get off TikTok.

01:02:47.000 That's what do not conform means.

01:02:49.000 Right?

01:02:49.000 Like all of that stuff.

01:02:50.000 I could keep going, right?

01:02:52.000 But instead, be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

01:02:56.000 Well, that's a great promise.

01:02:57.000 So if you don't do those things and honor God instead, you'll actually have a new mind.

01:03:01.000 You won't be anxious.

01:03:02.000 You'll be at peace.

01:03:03.000 Right?

01:03:04.000 You won't be restless.

01:03:05.000 You'll be focused on things that matter.

01:03:08.000 I hope that's somewhat helpful.

01:03:09.000 I could go on further than that, but Paul wrote a lot about how Christians need to be equipped for the spiritual war.

01:03:19.000 And I could go into that more unless you're interested in that.

01:03:23.000 That was really helpful.

01:03:24.000 All right, thank you.

01:03:24.000 Great.

01:03:25.000 Okay.

01:03:30.000 Do you think that the U.S. is moving towards socialism?

01:03:34.000 And in what ways, if or why or why not?

01:03:38.000 It's a great question.

01:03:39.000 So let's first define what socialism is, right?

01:03:41.000 Which is the collective ownership of goods and services and transfer of wealth.

01:03:46.000 I've said for a while that we're moving closer towards a hybrid of socialism and fascism, where fascism is a small select companies that are approved by the government or the regime that get preference, like Google or Twitter or Amazon or Pfizer.

01:04:03.000 I think we're getting closer to that.

01:04:05.000 Now, I will say, though, that we're definitely becoming more socialistic in the doling out of government benefits.

01:04:14.000 Now, any of you guys can always email me.

01:04:16.000 You know that freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:04:19.000 And if any of you solve this completely, I want to know, which is where have all the workers gone?

01:04:25.000 And some of you might have some answers, but you don't have the whole picture because no one does.

01:04:30.000 I've asked our whole national audience and people are as confused.

01:04:34.000 And I'm so confused.

01:04:36.000 And I think it's a mixture.

01:04:38.000 I think we pay people not to work.

01:04:40.000 I think that people have all these fake internet jobs with inflated Bitcoin currency.

01:04:44.000 They think they're super rich.

01:04:45.000 I think marijuana plays a big role in this, which, by the way, don't let your kids do weed and kids don't do weed.

01:04:50.000 It's awful.

01:04:50.000 It's terrible for you.

01:04:51.000 It makes you dumber and a bad person and probably neurotic. 1.00

01:04:54.000 I'm not kidding. 1.00

01:04:54.000 It's not a joke. 1.00

01:04:55.000 I've seen it ruin people's lives.

01:04:56.000 It's not cool.

01:04:57.000 It's not fashionable.

01:04:58.000 It's not mainline.

01:04:59.000 It's nothing.

01:04:59.000 It's awful.

01:05:01.000 So I think that's part of it.

01:05:03.000 I think it creates a lazier society.

01:05:06.000 And then I also just think that, I think part of it is the vaccine mandates for sure.

01:05:10.000 I think the other part of it is that people don't want to wear a mask at work all day long.

01:05:13.000 I think that the quality of actually the work is harder than ever before.

01:05:17.000 And then I also just think we have a general culture of people that don't want to work right now.

01:05:21.000 So what does that all mean?

01:05:22.000 Is that I think we're getting to a place where we're going to be subsidizing inactivity more than activity, which is a very dangerous precedent, right?

01:05:29.000 Where we're going to be paying more people to sit at home, where those of us that are taxpayers, and all of you are taxpayers, and you pay a lot in taxes, are going to have to pay a greater and greater burden for the people that don't want to work or they want to become some sort of Bitcoin millionaire or whatever, right?

01:05:45.000 So yeah, that's a concern.

01:05:48.000 So your question is, are we heading towards socialism?

01:05:50.000 I think we're heading closer towards this kind of authoritarian crony capitalism, right?

01:05:57.000 That's very dangerous, that if you aren't in the small select group of companies, they will abolish you, they'll run you over.

01:06:04.000 I could go into greater detail about that.

01:06:07.000 But make no mistake that we're getting away from our roots of an entrepreneurial, market-based, private property-focused society, which is obviously very, very troubling, and it restricts liberty and freedom.

01:06:19.000 So thank you.

01:06:20.000 Appreciate it.

01:06:23.000 This will be our last question.

01:06:26.000 All right.

01:06:26.000 I had a question about what can we do to change the direction our country is.

01:06:32.000 One more.

01:06:32.000 Sorry.

01:06:34.000 I'm going to override the video.

01:06:35.000 One more.

01:06:35.000 Sorry.

01:06:36.000 All right.

01:06:37.000 So what can we do as that our country is going without like, I know protests, that has to do a lot with it.

01:06:51.000 But also, when you go, what's to keep them from ignoring that?

01:06:57.000 And do you think it's time?

01:07:00.000 I don't know how to say this without sounding very radical, but when it's time to, I guess, do what the Constitution gave us the Second Amendment for.

01:07:12.000 Yeah.

01:07:13.000 So, no, it's not time for that.

01:07:17.000 So, I have reporters that follow me around.

01:07:20.000 No, it's not time for that.

01:07:22.000 But you are right, that is what the Second Amendment's for.

01:07:24.000 It's not for hunting.

01:07:25.000 It's not for self-defense.

01:07:27.000 It's for a free people to defend themselves against a usurpatious government, which unfortunately the 20th century was riddled with.

01:07:34.000 So, what can we do?

01:07:35.000 Look, this is a very important point: which is, you live in Arizona.

01:07:39.000 Arizona is a super important state.

01:07:40.000 A lot of these issues are to the forefront.

01:07:42.000 But a couple things: the enemy would love nothing more for you than be cynical and for you to believe that what you do does not matter.

01:07:50.000 So, first and foremost, focus on yourself.

01:07:52.000 Do I know the issues?

01:07:53.000 Do I know my elected officials?

01:07:55.000 Do I know the road that our country has been?

01:07:57.000 Do I know the natural rights that God has given me, the Constitution protects?

01:08:01.000 Do I know these things?

01:08:02.000 And am I willing to do something about it?

01:08:04.000 Now, you're right.

01:08:05.000 Sometimes protests, people might not notice it or whatever, but protests are like a small part of what you can do.

01:08:10.000 This is why I love speaking to this audience.

01:08:11.000 Parents, you're already doing the most important thing that I tell people to do: homeschool your kids.

01:08:17.000 You are making an amazing and wonderful contribution to the future of the republic when you homeschool a child.

01:08:23.000 Truly, it creates every statistic shows it creates better citizens, better informed population, more grateful, less likely to be a revolutionary, all the things that we want, right?

01:08:34.000 And then the final thing that I'll say is that, and you kind of ask you asked very delicately, you know, it's a question I get a fair amount, which is like, at what point do we say no more?

01:08:48.000 I do think there's a game being played by the current regime where they're trying to provoke us into a response where we will do something that I wouldn't support, that would be physical or violent, that will then justify a massive power grab like we've never seen.

01:09:08.000 Don't fall for it, is what I tell people.

01:09:10.000 Don't fall for their provoking.

01:09:12.000 Don't fall for them trying to, you know, irk you.

01:09:15.000 It's kind of the guy that you would grow up with in school that would taunt you, taunt you, taunt you, and get you to throw the first punch, right?

01:09:22.000 You know the type of person that I'm talking about, and then all of a sudden he would laugh at you with the bloody nose and go to the teacher and not even punch you back and then get you expelled.

01:09:30.000 That's exactly what they're trying to do with a lot of this stuff.

01:09:33.000 Don't fall for it, right?

01:09:35.000 Because there's a fair amount of chatter in D.C. right now about trying to categorize every single person in this room as a domestic terrorist.

01:09:46.000 They've done that already, and they want to try to use the power and the apparatus of the United States security state against you.

01:09:53.000 But we have to be the ambassadors of optimistic, peaceful, forward-thinking solutions.

01:10:00.000 And I think that's actually what the regime fears the most.

01:10:03.000 When I say the regime, that's an overarching word, by the way, of just people that don't believe what I believe.

01:10:10.000 Okay, that's just so you guys know.

01:10:11.000 That's just like a good catch-all, right?

01:10:13.000 Because I don't like saying the left, because that's not even a fair encapsulation.

01:10:16.000 I just call it the regime.

01:10:18.000 And basically, I think they're really afraid that we are actually going to increase our numbers peacefully, that we're going to keep on organizing, that our arguments are going to strengthen.

01:10:28.000 And I think that's their biggest fear.

01:10:30.000 And that's why I think they're trying to provoke us into a preemptive fight to justify a security state grab.

01:10:35.000 Don't fall for it and stay focused on things that are really good and true.

01:10:38.000 And I can tell you guys: look, the laws of nature, nature, as God is articulated in the Declaration of Independence include the laws in Natonian physics.

01:10:44.000 And guess what?

01:10:45.000 The laws in Natonian physics apply to cultural fights and political fights.

01:10:50.000 For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.

01:10:53.000 And normal people and good people are rising up.

01:10:55.000 So thank you.

01:10:56.000 I appreciate that.

01:10:57.000 All right.

01:10:58.000 This will be the last question.

01:11:01.000 Thank you for taking my question.

01:11:02.000 So, my question for you is: what would you say to someone if they said that wearing a mask is loving their neighbor?

01:11:09.000 Yeah, I've heard that before.

01:11:13.000 Look, it would have to be under the premise that you believe masks work.

01:11:18.000 I'm not going to get into that.

01:11:19.000 Let me just talk about with children with masks.

01:11:21.000 I think it's unbelievably detrimental and abusive to children to make them wear masks.

01:11:25.000 I do.

01:11:25.000 And when I see children wear masks, I just, I cannot believe it when I see that.

01:11:30.000 Outside of like, you have to, when you have to go to a certain place, I get that.

01:11:33.000 I'm talking about in a park, okay, when I see parents that put masks on their kids.

01:11:38.000 But, like, this is a great question, right?

01:11:40.000 What is love?

01:11:42.000 And we, yeah, I know there was a song that says that I know.

01:11:47.000 But again, the good pastor would probably have probably given this sermon multiple times, but it's good for some of the students here to know is that, look, in the New Testament, there were multiple Greek words for love, and we interchange them.

01:11:57.000 The English language is one catch-all word, but we know them as eros, storge, agape, phileo, and there's even more Greek words than that.

01:12:06.000 And, for example, in John 3:16, it's God so loved the world, it's God so agape the world, which is sacrificial love, right?

01:12:11.000 And phileo love would be brotherly love, which is where we get Philadelphia, the city of brotherly love from, right?

01:12:18.000 Or philanthropy, the love of human beings, like kind of a brotherly love in that sense.

01:12:23.000 Storge would be love between a parent and a child, a mother or a daughter, mother and a son, father and a son.

01:12:28.000 And then Eros would be a romantic love between partners.

01:12:30.000 So there's lots of different types of love, but Jesus told us that the truest love is one that tells the truth.

01:12:36.000 That is pure love.

01:12:37.000 I'll give you an example, and I'll close with this, which is that I recently had to get my wisdom teeth removed.

01:12:43.000 No offense at all to anyone that's a dentist. 0.90

01:12:46.000 I think you're all medieval witch doctors and basically are a punishment put on the human race to make us suffer.

01:12:59.000 That's a joke, okay? 0.93

01:13:01.000 But I can't stand dentists.

01:13:03.000 There's something about getting in my mouth, not a fan.

01:13:07.000 Phobia, whatever you want to call it, hate it.

01:13:09.000 Can't stand it, right?

01:13:12.000 I've professionally skipped dentist appointments for years and I've been proud of it.

01:13:16.000 So my mouth started to really hurt.

01:13:19.000 I never got my wisdom teeth removed.

01:13:21.000 And I went to go see a dentist reluctantly here in Phoenix, Dr. Toll.

01:13:26.000 Maybe you didn't know of her.

01:13:27.000 She's amazing if you ever need your wisdom teeth removed. 1.00

01:13:29.000 And she did an x-ray.

01:13:32.000 And I was already late for three things.

01:13:34.000 I had no patience and no time, right?

01:13:37.000 And she looked at me and she says, okay, I love what you do, non-romantic love.

01:13:43.000 I love our country, and you're important to our country.

01:13:45.000 So I'm going to tell you something that you do not want to hear.

01:13:50.000 You've got to get your wisdom teeth removed in seven days or your brain's going to basically be filled with a virus, right?

01:13:54.000 Like really bad infection, like all over the mouth.

01:13:57.000 And I said, yeah, no, that's not going to happen.

01:13:59.000 Like, you know, pushing back, like, yeah.

01:14:01.000 And she's like, no, no, no, no.

01:14:03.000 I love what you're doing so much and I care so much for you.

01:14:06.000 I'm not going to let you leave here until we schedule your surgery.

01:14:09.000 I didn't want to hear it.

01:14:10.000 I complained, threatened a lawsuit, like everything you could imagine, right?

01:14:14.000 The point is that that was the most loving thing she could have possibly have done.

01:14:19.000 Not what I wanted to hear, by the way, at all.

01:14:21.000 Zero.

01:14:22.000 Like, that was not comfortable, wasn't nice, but it was loving.

01:14:28.000 Infection's gone, wisdom teeth are gone, right?

01:14:31.000 And everything's fine.

01:14:32.000 Now, how does that relate to mess?

01:14:34.000 I don't think it's loving to try to give people a false impression that some cloth is going to prevent them from getting communicable disease.

01:14:40.000 I think it's a false promise.

01:14:42.000 I think it gives people a false sense of safety, which it does.

01:14:45.000 And instead, we should be saying, hey, what's your D-level?

01:14:48.000 Do you have ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and zithromycin?

01:14:50.000 Do you know melatonin and aspirin could reduce hospitalizations?

01:14:52.000 Maybe, you know, do you know obesity could impact COVID?

01:14:56.000 You know, all these things that would actually empower them, that's loving.

01:14:58.000 No one wants to say that.

01:14:59.000 They instead want to say, hey, just put on this cloth mask because it makes you more obedient and less familiar with your neighbor.

01:15:04.000 Aristotle famously read book five of the politics.

01:15:06.000 You guys can read that at some point.

01:15:08.000 That tyrants have a habit of what?

01:15:11.000 Trying to make citizens unfamiliar with one another.

01:15:14.000 Think about that.

01:15:14.000 That's Aristotle 2,500 years ago.

01:15:16.000 Tyrants want to make you unfamiliar with your neighbor, makes you easier to control.

01:15:21.000 And when it comes to children, children learn a lot through facial recognition.

01:15:25.000 They learn a lot through kind of unspoken cues.

01:15:28.000 We're robbing them of that. 1.00

01:15:30.000 I have been an outspoken critic of the Muslim hijab for years because I said it dehumanizes people. 1.00

01:15:36.000 And I believe masks. 1.00

01:15:38.000 I don't like masks for the exact same reason.

01:15:40.000 So tell the truth.

01:15:42.000 It's the most loving thing you could do.

01:15:43.000 Thank you.

01:15:46.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

01:15:47.000 Email us your thoughts.

01:15:48.000 As always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:15:50.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

01:15:52.000 God bless.

01:15:55.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 23, 2022

Fighting Off the Death of the Citizen: A Conversation with America’s Future

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