00:01:04.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:06.000We have a very scattered political landscape.
00:02:09.000And the PVV is, as you said, a nationalist, populist, right-wing party that has been, well, I mean, Keird Builders has been a political outlier for as long as he's had this party.
00:03:30.000There have been multiple fought waz issued against his life.
00:03:33.000So this is a man truly with skin in the game when it comes to his points of view on immigration.
00:03:39.000And I think that the majority of the Dutch people, you know, have had a more anti-immigration stance, I would say, than the VBD, the ruling party, has had.
00:03:49.000And they've been in power for the past 30 years.
00:03:52.000So it almost seemed like enough was enough, you know, and especially with the events of October 7th and all the rallies that we've seen in Europe where lots of people came out waving Taliban flags, waving al-Qaeda flags.
00:04:06.000I think that that has kind of like awoken the masses to the fact that this integration process that we had been promised for the longest time was actually a lie.
00:04:16.000Yeah, so did the Dutch farmer story contribute to this as well?
00:04:21.000Tell us about that, Giva, because you've been covering that extensively.
00:04:25.000So Georg Wildersch and I shared a stage back in March when the farmers protests were going on.
00:04:30.000He's taken a stance against the expropriation of our farmers.
00:04:33.000He's vowed that he would go and get rid as well as he could of all the nitrogen policies, both on a national and an international level, because most of it's coming from the EU anyway.
00:04:44.000And like I said, he's in favor of an exit, right?
00:04:47.000So again, Georg Wildersch has really taken a stance for the Dutch farmers.
00:04:51.000And I know for a fact that that has played a huge role in his victory now.
00:04:56.000A lot of people really were done with Rutte, Mark Rutte, our former prime minister, and his globalist agenda.
00:05:03.000And Georg Wilders, a staunch nationalist, somebody who's really stood up for the ordinary Dutch citizen, so to say, and also for the farmers, it has definitely, definitely contributed to his win.
00:05:15.000So there's, it's an interesting deal, right?
00:05:18.000Because the Netherlands is supposed to be kind of one of the ruling countries of the European project.
00:05:28.000You have The Hague, you have Amsterdam, which is the model city.
00:05:34.000And this is not supposed to happen, right?
00:05:36.000Netherlands is supposed to sit down and obey and kind of just do the German guilt thing, right?
00:05:42.000Which is, you know, let our country be destroyed by a bunch of Middle Eastern Muslim Arabs.
00:05:48.000Kind of talk about the typical Dutch political temperament and how it changed with this last election.
00:05:56.000Because from my experience, this has been a series of elections over the last couple of decades where you've seen mass migration, you've seen some issues, but that kind of high society European sensibility is really hard to break through.
00:06:11.000Walk through some of the psychology that played into this.
00:06:22.000One of the most used proverbs here in the Netherlands is, oh, just behave normally, then you're already acting crazy enough.
00:06:29.000You know, in that sense, we are nothing like the French.
00:06:33.000We don't go out to protest every chance that we get.
00:06:36.000We are people that are very open to compromise.
00:06:40.000And I would say that that is, you know, in a functioning, healthy society, in a homogenous society where people share the same values, the same culture, the same identity, the same religion, that is a good thing, you know, to be open to compromise on smaller details.
00:06:54.000But when you are being manipulated by people that you never elected, you know, the European Union produces the majority of our laws and European law has supremacy over national laws in the Netherlands.
00:07:08.000Well, then that, you know, that spirit of compromise is just one that is going to shoot you right in the foot, right?
00:07:14.000So I feel like the Dutch, having now gone out in these vast numbers and voting for a party that has been ridiculed, demonized, you know, smeared and labeled as far right is really, really big.
00:07:28.000It shows you that the intimidation game of calling us all of those things has lost its power.
00:07:34.000And I didn't see it coming, to be honest.
00:07:36.000You know, I really didn't think that we would win or that this party would win by 37 seats.
00:07:42.000And the VVD has now gone down by more than 10 seats.
00:08:29.000It's a wonderful city, but it's absolutely dominated by the communists, I would say.
00:08:34.000And, well, the fact that they won in all the other major cities, even in a city like Rotterdam, that is, well, has a very high population of people with an immigrant background is something that the left is absolutely astonished by.
00:08:48.000They're like, how on earth is this possible?
00:08:50.000How on earth did we have so many people with an immigration background actually vote for Geerd Wilders?
00:08:56.000Well, probably because they are seeing the same issues that we are seeing, you know, and even the people who've come here somewhat recently are not exactly happy with the fact that the borders have been wide, wide open and they have noticed the neighborhoods becoming more and more unsafe, more and more dirty.
00:09:13.000And it's something that we, again, didn't expect.
00:09:17.000But even in immigrant groups, Gerd Wilders is quite popular.
00:09:20.000So do you think there's actually a chance he'll become prime minister and he can form a government?
00:09:26.000Yeah, so this is the tricky part always, because Geerd Wildersch's party has been excluded from coalition formation for the past 17 years.
00:09:34.000They only did it once with a minority coalition because all the other moderate quote-unquote parties on the right always said that he was too far right.
00:09:43.000And so now the VVD, Margrutte's former party, is again trying to obstruct efforts of creating a true right-wing coalition against the will of their own voter base.
00:09:54.000They've said, well, we've lost so many votes this time.
00:09:56.000You know, it wouldn't be appropriate if we take a seat in government, which is a ridiculous lie.
00:10:01.000You know, they've had previous elections where they lost a lot of votes and they definitely did not shy away from ruling the country back then.
00:10:10.000So it's, again, just a way to obstruct George Wilders.
00:10:15.000I'm not sure because even their own electorate wants them to rule with the PVV.
00:10:20.000So we'll have to see how this process goes.
00:10:22.000I mean, I do expect it to be dragged out for a long time.
00:10:25.000And I do expect them to take, well, again, a lot of steps to try and obstruct every single effort they possibly can use to prevent a true right-wing coalition from happening.
00:10:36.000But if they do that, let me put it diplomatically.
00:10:40.000I don't think the Dutch people will be very happy with that.
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00:12:05.000This was largely covered up in Western media unless you were on Telegram or social media.
00:12:11.000Yeah, I mean, again, something that we see all the time in Europe, to be honest.
00:12:15.000There was a migrant who went about and targeted women and children and stabbed a few and injured a young girl, I think of five years old, very seriously.
00:12:24.000I think she's still fighting for her life.
00:12:26.000And this is something that is not new, you know, in Europe.
00:12:30.000You wouldn't ever hear about it in the media.
00:12:32.000But we see targeted stabbings, rapes, murders of young children, young girls, also elderly people by immigrant groups in Europe all the time.
00:12:45.000And the Irish have said enough, and they have gone out to protest in a, again, I think a very, you know, un-European fashion.
00:12:55.000But I'm very, very happy to see that some people are finally standing up against the invasion of our continent, against the, well, sacrifice, I guess, of our people on the altar of mass migration.
00:13:09.000And I mean, you have this one Irish prime minister who vowed to change a very white country.
00:13:15.000And so is it possible, Eva, that we're seeing in the Netherlands, in other countries, potentially even France as well, it looks as if, you know, that there's like a 40 to 45% populist nationalist contingent in France that just doesn't die.
00:13:31.000I mean, the European story, and Douglas Murray wrote a great book on this called The Strange Death of Europe.
00:13:37.000It was about 10 years ago, where he says post-World War II that Europe was saddled with guilt and they had to try to figure this out.
00:13:46.000So basically in the last 20 years, there's been this unprecedented mass Arab Muslim migration.
00:13:53.000And are we just finally starting to see the political response to that?
00:14:03.000I mean, yes, Europe has been, I would say, invaded by hordes of migrants who do not respect our national identity, culture, religion, all of that, as I just said.
00:14:13.000And not just have they been invaded, they've been actively imported by our establishment, right?
00:14:17.000This was all done willfully, all done to destroy our social fabric.
00:14:21.000And now there is a large group that is finally waking up.
00:14:24.000And like I said, the intimidation game seems to have lost its power.
00:14:28.000You know, the white guilt, the story of the Second World War being used against people who had nothing to do with that, you know, all of that has kind of lost its power.
00:14:39.000They've tried to label us as Nazis, fascists, you know, far-right extremists for such a long time.
00:14:45.000But there is a point where you're thinking, okay, well, if I criticize the demographic change that we are seeing right now, if I criticize the fact that so many young kids, that so many women, that so many people are increasingly unsafe are being stabbed in broad daylight in Europe.
00:15:03.000And that is not something that used to happen before.
00:15:06.000You know, we need to hold those people accountable.
00:15:08.000Well, then I'll just, I guess I'll just take the label of far-right.
00:15:11.000And I think that that is finally happening in Europe because people cannot really unsee, you know, the consequences of mass migration anymore.
00:15:44.000And like I said, I think that was a willful decision to destroy the social fabric in Europe.
00:15:48.000If you can uproot a people, you know, if you can destroy their national identity, if you can flood their nations with immigrants, if you can change their demographics to such a degree that they don't even recognize their own country anymore, what happens?
00:16:02.000People get confused, people get uprooted.
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00:18:21.000Well, in his initial statement, Charlie, he said that he was releasing everything except for 5%, which, you know, out of 44,000 hours ends up being around 4,000 hours.
00:18:34.000I may have missed something over the holiday weekend where he released those additional hours, but I don't think so.
00:18:44.000And, you know, one of the things that has really come out of the footage is that there have been things that defense attorneys have had access to, which the general public has not seen.
00:18:58.000And I have to say, one of them that stands out is the footage of Victoria White being beaten.
00:19:05.000Because this is a woman that I have interviewed.
00:19:07.000I spent some time with her up in Minnesota.
00:19:11.000And you can see truly horrific footage of her in the tunnel, where she is being beaten by not one capital police officer, one officer back show, but by a second officer as well.
00:20:07.000I cannot say strongly enough, if you are a good person inside any of these organizations, this is the moment for you to stand and to stand together, right?
00:20:19.000Because for you to come after a woman when you know that she was beaten almost to death and charge her with crimes, basically bring her to her knees both physically and afterwards, force her.
00:20:32.000I mean, she, Victoria White has nothing.
00:20:34.000She's very, she doesn't come from any means, can't afford her own attorney.
00:20:39.000She did go through a few attorneys, ended up with a public defender, and pled guilty to obstructing police.
00:20:46.000This woman should be getting a multi-million dollar payout from the state for what they did to her.
00:20:59.000I have been inundated all weekend with people sending me things that have come out from the footage.
00:21:05.000But one of the first things that you're going to see is that body camera footage from many of the Capitol police offices tells a very different story than the one told by the January 6th Committee, than the one told by Mitch McConnell, than the one told by many Republican leaders, by the FBI, by the Department of Justice.
00:21:24.000And let us not forget, there are still today decent American citizens who are being hunted down and targeted by the Department of Justice and the FBI, not because they did anything wrong, but because there is a political witch hunt going on in this country.
00:21:42.000And this is political persecution, and these are political prisoners.
00:21:47.000And it is, among other things, designed to cover up a fraudulent election and also to make sure that Donald Trump never, ever, ever runs for office again.
00:21:58.000Yeah, and I'm not one to overplay the police brutality card.
00:22:02.000I mean, if a police officer makes a mistake, we should call him out on it.
00:22:05.000But Laura, isn't the whole media, but isn't the whole media currently designed on, you know, anti-police, anti-cops, BLM rioters and protesters that get massive payouts?
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00:22:57.000I'm not that interested in that topic.
00:22:58.000I'm more interested in, do we have real evidence that people got violent because of the flashbangs or were they violent before the flashbangs?
00:24:35.000You had people who were there to make sure that they removed all the barriers to entry so that those who came after them would not know that they were breaking the law.
00:24:45.000So if you, you know, I'm sure a lot of your audience have seen footage of people pulling barricades aside.
00:24:50.000But what they might not have seen, which was also in that episode you just played an excerpt from, is the people who came up and removed those barricades from sight so that people coming afterwards not only did not see the barricades being removed, but never knew there were barricades there at all.
00:25:08.000So when you run an information warfare operation, you have many different compartments.
00:25:13.000And there is a number of things that you need.
00:25:15.000First of all, it's very easy to set the conditions for chaos, right?
00:25:20.000So number one, make sure you don't secure the Capitol, right?
00:25:24.000Which we know they did not secure the Capitol.
00:25:27.000A couple of cops behind a few bike racks or metal barricades, whatever you want to call them, that is not secure in the capital.
00:26:03.000Then if you look very closely at the intelligence, right?
00:26:06.000So somehow you've got DHS saying, oh, we had intelligence.
00:26:10.000We knew there was going to be trouble, right?
00:26:12.000Then you've got Joint Terrorism Task Force saying the same thing.
00:26:16.000You've got the FBI saying the same thing.
00:26:18.000I mean, just, you know, run the gambit of the intelligence agencies, and they all say they had intelligence that there was going to be trouble.
00:26:34.000Well, look at his intelligence department, which was run by a woman called Jagananda Pittman.
00:26:39.000Okay, the reason I talk about Jagananda Pittman is you need people when you run an information warfare operation, you need people with placement and access, right?
00:26:50.000That means they're placed in the right position and they have access to the right information and the right operations, the right things that enable them to ensure that the plan is carried out accordingly.
00:27:05.000So Jagananda Pittman is head of intelligence, and yet somehow her department makes sure that none of that intelligence that all the other agencies have ever reaches the chief of capital police.
00:27:26.000Well, one way it's possible is if you start to look at her department, Yagananda Pittman is, she's the anointed, right?
00:27:33.000She's one of these black female appointees who hasn't spent four and a half seconds being a real cop in her life, but she is unpatchable because she has political masters that put her there.
00:27:45.000Then she puts in political operatives inside her intelligence department.
00:28:29.000She moves half the staff into the analysis departments.
00:28:32.000So now you have people that are producing the kind of analysis that, let me see, when Benghazi happened, do you remember when Mike Morrell said, oh, we had an analyst who said that all this happened because of a film that was made?
00:28:46.000Yeah, you can get an analyst to write exactly what you want.
00:28:49.000And that's what analysts do in these intel departments now.
00:28:53.000They don't actually do anything real anymore.
00:28:55.000And so you basically set it up so you make sure there's no real security.
00:29:00.000You turn down every offer that Trump makes to send a National Guard.
00:29:05.000You turn down every offer the head of Capitol Police, Stephen Son, makes in order to secure the Capitol properly, right?
00:29:59.000Because Jagannanda Pittman was in the chair.
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00:31:29.000So, Charlie, this is something really important for people to understand.
00:31:33.000The Capitol Police has a chief, Stephen Sund, and he has two deputies, okay?
00:31:38.000And one of his deputies is the chief of intelligence, Jagananda Pittman.
00:31:42.000But the other deputy, I believe his name is Chad Thomas, is in charge of operations.
00:31:47.000Well, for some inexplicable reason, on January 6th, when you've got somebody like Tariq Johnson, right, 23 years in the Capitol Police, he's calling into his radio, asking for direction, and he's getting nothing back.
00:32:02.000Because it wasn't the chief of operations who was sitting in the seat in the operations room.
00:32:07.000It was Yagananda Pittman, who had no business being there because that's not her job and not her experience.
00:32:14.000And I said earlier, you know, this is somebody who barely spent five seconds on the beat.
00:32:19.000You know, if you'd had somebody like Tom and Best, if you remember her, she was the chief of police in Portland, Seattle.
00:32:27.000If you had had a cop like that, who's well respected, who has an extraordinary career, who would have known exactly what to do, then it would have been a different scenario.
00:32:38.000But they put someone there who either didn't know what to do, she certainly wasn't qualified for the position, and she certainly wasn't giving any instructions.
00:32:48.000So when you have that happening, right, you've now set further conditions for chaos because your police officers on the ground are not getting the direction they deserve.
00:32:59.000Then you compare that with some of the videos that have come out where you have black police officers, not one, not two, not three, but at least 10 that I know of saying, we are being set up.
00:33:14.000They know perfectly well this should not be happening, that should not be there, and so on and so on.
00:33:19.000You have police officers on the day who were set up.
00:33:22.000So if you're going to do an information warfare operation, what you're going to do is set up both sides.
00:33:28.000Because when one police officer sees another police officer under attack, what's going to happen?
00:33:35.000He's going to escalate, even though their job is to de-escalate.
00:33:39.000And on the same side, on the other side, where you have protesters, when you see women being punched in the face or hit in the face, when you are standing around innocently, you have no idea what is happening way up ahead.
00:33:54.000You have no idea that there are paid provocateurs in the crowd who are picking a fight with police.
00:34:00.000And out of nowhere, you're being hit with flashbangs and all kinds of munitions that cause real damage.
00:34:06.000And these are called less than lethal munitions.
00:34:10.000They're not called non-lethal, Charlie, because they become lethal when used in certain circumstances.
00:34:17.000So when you look at that West Tunnel where so much of the violence happened, when those munitions are used in that environment, which is a confined space where nobody can go, the police are pushing from one side.
00:34:30.000And there were people whose job was to push from the other side to capture people in between.
00:34:37.000What they're doing is they're hoping that people get injured and they're hoping that people get killed because that feeds the narrative.
00:34:45.000So an information warfare operation has many different compartments, but most importantly, the Rayeps is on the ground.
00:34:53.000You know, the officer Bagshaws is beating living hell out of Victoria White.
00:34:57.000They're just foolish, foolish foot soldiers who are being used.
00:35:30.000You can find it on X, on my handle at Laura Logan, or you can find it on Truth and Media, either truthandmedia.com or TruthandMedia on X. Laura, thank you so much.