The Charlie Kirk Show


First Month Questions: Trump's 1,009 vs. Biden's 141


Summary

Chip Roy and Andrew Colvitt break down Trump's first cabinet meeting and press conference. Howard and Scott take a look at the $500Billion dollar investment by Tim Cook in the U.S. EB-5 program.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
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00:00:04.000 President Trump calls his first cabinet meeting, followed by an amazing press conference.
00:00:08.000 We have Chip Roy to break down the newest information out of the House budget fights.
00:00:13.000 And I analyzed what we see in that press conference from President Trump.
00:00:17.000 Absolutely phenomenal stuff.
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00:01:45.000 Hey everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:48.000 Andrew Colvitt in for the one and only Charlie Kirk, who's on assignment today.
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00:01:55.000 President Trump has just convened his first cabinet meeting.
00:01:58.000 He's been talking about the border, about Doge.
00:02:01.000 It's ongoing right now, so we're going to toss right to it to check in with it.
00:02:05.000 The Wharton School of Finance, they go to Yale, they go to all great schools, and they graduate number one in their class.
00:02:14.000 And they made job offers, but the offer is immediately rescinded because you have no idea whether or not that person can stay in the country.
00:02:21.000 I want to be able to have that person stay in the country.
00:02:24.000 These companies can go and buy a gold card, and they can use it as a matter of recruitment.
00:02:30.000 At the same time, the company is using that money to pay down debt.
00:02:34.000 We're going to pay down a lot of debt with that.
00:02:36.000 And I think the gold card...
00:02:39.000 Is going to be used by not only for that.
00:02:41.000 I mean, they'll be used by companies.
00:02:42.000 I mean, I could see Apple.
00:02:44.000 I've spoken with Tim Cook.
00:02:46.000 And by the way, he's going to make a $500 billion investment in the country only because of the results of the election.
00:02:53.000 And I think because of tariffs.
00:02:54.000 He's going to want to be in the country because of tariffs.
00:02:56.000 Because if you're in the country, there is no tariff.
00:02:59.000 If you're out of the country, you've got to pay tariffs.
00:03:01.000 And that's going to be a great investment, I think, that he's making.
00:03:04.000 I know it's going to be a great investment.
00:03:05.000 But we have to be able to get people in the country.
00:03:10.000 And we want people that are productive people.
00:03:13.000 And I will tell you, the people that can...
00:03:15.000 Pay 5 million.
00:03:16.000 They're going to create jobs.
00:03:17.000 They're going to spend a lot of money on jobs.
00:03:19.000 They're going to have to pay taxes on that, too.
00:03:20.000 So they're going to be hiring people.
00:03:22.000 They're going to be bringing people in and companies in.
00:03:25.000 And I don't know, maybe it will sell like crazy.
00:03:28.000 I happen to think it's going to sell like crazy.
00:03:30.000 It's a bargain.
00:03:31.000 But we'll know fairly soon.
00:03:34.000 I think Howard and Scott, a few of you really are responsible for it.
00:03:39.000 Howard, if you want to discuss that for a couple of minutes, I think I'd like to have you.
00:03:43.000 I think it's going to be a very successful program.
00:03:45.000 This is Commerce.
00:03:47.000 So the EB-5 program.
00:03:50.000 Which has been around for many years, had investment of a million dollars into projects in America.
00:03:58.000 And those projects were often suspect.
00:04:00.000 They didn't really work out.
00:04:02.000 There wasn't any oversight of it.
00:04:04.000 And so for a million dollar investment, you got a visa and then you came into the country and ended up with a green card.
00:04:11.000 So it was poorly overseen, poorly executed.
00:04:15.000 Then you had a border open where millions of people came through.
00:04:19.000 So the idea is we will have a proper business.
00:04:23.000 We will modify the EB-5 agreement.
00:04:26.000 Christy and I are working on it together.
00:04:28.000 For $5 million, they'll get a license from the Department of Commerce.
00:04:33.000 Then they'll make a proper investment on the EB-5, right?
00:04:38.000 And we think Scott and I will design the EB-5 investment model because Scott and I are the best.
00:04:44.000 People together to do that.
00:04:45.000 So this is joint.
00:04:46.000 This is exactly the Trump administration.
00:04:48.000 We all work together.
00:04:49.000 We work it out to be the best.
00:04:51.000 And if we sell, just remember, 200,000.
00:04:55.000 There's a line for EB-5 of 250,000 right now.
00:04:59.000 200,000 of these gold green cards is $1 trillion to pay down our debt.
00:05:08.000 And that's why the president is doing it, because we are going to balance his budget and we are going to pay off the debt under President Trump.
00:05:18.000 President, you've been very clear in saying that as long as you're president, Iran will never get a nuclear weapon.
00:05:24.000 That's true.
00:05:25.000 Is it also your policy that as long as you're president, China will never take Taiwan by force?
00:05:30.000 I never comment on that.
00:05:33.000 I don't comment on anything because I don't want to ever put myself in that position.
00:05:37.000 And if I said it, I certainly wouldn't be saying it to you.
00:05:40.000 I'd be saying it to other people, maybe people around this table, and very specific people around this table.
00:05:46.000 So I don't want to put myself in that position.
00:05:48.000 But I can tell you what, I have a great relationship with President Xi.
00:05:54.000 I've had a great relationship with him.
00:05:56.000 We want them to come in and invest.
00:05:58.000 I see so many things saying that we don't want China in this country.
00:06:01.000 That's not right.
00:06:02.000 We want them to invest in the United States.
00:06:04.000 That's good.
00:06:05.000 That's a lot of money coming in, and we'll invest in China.
00:06:08.000 We'll do things with China.
00:06:09.000 The relationship we'll have with China would be a very good one.
00:06:12.000 I see all of these phony reports that we don't want that money, we don't want anything to do with them.
00:06:17.000 That's wrong.
00:06:17.000 We're going to have a good relationship with China, but they won't be able to take advantage of us.
00:06:21.000 What they did to Biden was...
00:06:24.000 He didn't know what was happening.
00:06:26.000 He didn't know what he was doing.
00:06:27.000 The administration didn't know what they were doing.
00:06:29.000 It was very sad to watch.
00:06:31.000 But we're going to have a good relationship with China and Russia and Ukraine and the Middle East.
00:06:36.000 We're doing things that, look, when I left, we had no wars.
00:06:40.000 We had defeated ISIS totally.
00:06:42.000 We had no inflation.
00:06:44.000 We didn't have the Afghanistan withdrawal, the worst withdrawal anybody's ever seen.
00:06:49.000 I think that's one of the reasons that...
00:06:51.000 President Putin looked at that.
00:06:53.000 He said, wow, these guys are a paper tiger.
00:06:55.000 We're no paper tiger.
00:06:56.000 Don't forget, we got rid of ISIS in three weeks.
00:07:00.000 People said it would take five years.
00:07:01.000 We did it.
00:07:02.000 Because when I came in, I let them do what they had to do.
00:07:05.000 And the man that headed that operation is now going to be your chairman, right?
00:07:10.000 Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
00:07:11.000 Yes, sir.
00:07:12.000 And Raisin Cain.
00:07:13.000 I liked him right from the beginning.
00:07:14.000 As soon as I heard his name, I said, that's my guy.
00:07:17.000 Okay.
00:07:17.000 Any other questions?
00:07:20.000 Decreases in crossings at the border for you to continue the pause on tariffs against Mexico and Canada?
00:07:27.000 And if not...
00:07:28.000 No, I'm not stopping the tariffs.
00:07:30.000 No.
00:07:31.000 Millions of people have died because of the fentanyl that comes over the border.
00:07:35.000 Even with the 90 percent drop in border crossings, though, this last month compared to about a year ago?
00:07:40.000 Yeah, they've been good, but that's also due to us, mostly due to us.
00:07:44.000 It's very hard.
00:07:45.000 It's right now very hard to come through the border, but...
00:07:49.000 Look, the damage has been done.
00:07:51.000 We've lost millions of people due to fentanyl.
00:07:55.000 It comes mostly from China, but it comes through Mexico and it comes through Canada.
00:07:59.000 And I have to tell you that, you know, on April 2nd, I was going to do it on April 1st, but I'm a little bit superstitious, so I made it April 2nd.
00:08:07.000 The tariffs go on.
00:08:09.000 Not all of them, but a lot of them.
00:08:10.000 And I think you're going to see something that's going to be amazing.
00:08:13.000 We've been taken advantage of as a country for a long period of time.
00:08:17.000 We've been tariffed, but we didn't tariff.
00:08:20.000 Now, I did.
00:08:21.000 When I was here, I tariffed.
00:08:22.000 We took in $700 billion from China.
00:08:25.000 $700 billion.
00:08:26.000 Not one president in the history of our country took in 10 cents from China.
00:08:31.000 At the same time, China respected us.
00:08:34.000 Now, when COVID came in, that was a different...
00:08:38.000 Deal.
00:08:38.000 I used to call it the China virus.
00:08:40.000 I guess I can call it the China virus again.
00:08:42.000 But, you know, it's an accurate term.
00:08:44.000 But I won't do that out of respect to China.
00:08:50.000 On Gaza, I just wondered if there's any progress towards a second phase of the ceasefire.
00:08:56.000 Well, I'm very disappointed when I see four bodies came in today.
00:09:01.000 These are young people.
00:09:02.000 Young people don't die.
00:09:04.000 Okay?
00:09:05.000 Young people don't die.
00:09:06.000 These are young people.
00:09:07.000 Four bodies came in today.
00:09:09.000 They think they're doing us a favor by sending us bodies.
00:09:12.000 So, look, that's a decision that has to be made by Israel, by Bibi.
00:09:20.000 But Israel has to make that decision.
00:09:24.000 We got a lot of hostages back.
00:09:26.000 But it's very sad what happened to those people.
00:09:29.000 I mean, you had a young lady with her hand practically blown off.
00:09:32.000 You know why it blew up?
00:09:33.000 Because she put up her hand to try and stop a bullet that was coming her way.
00:09:37.000 And it hit her hand and blew off her fingers, a big part of her hand.
00:09:41.000 This is a vicious group of people.
00:09:44.000 And Israel's going to have to decide what they're doing.
00:09:48.000 Phase one is going to be ending.
00:09:50.000 Think of it, today they sent in four bodies.
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00:10:55.000 President Trump has convened his first cabinet meeting.
00:11:01.000 He is currently taking questions from the press, but so far he's talked about the gold card, which would be sort of like a green card plus, selling it for $5 million, sold to companies and rich individuals with a pathway to citizenship.
00:11:13.000 Apparently EB-5 has 250,000 people on the wait list, which requires something like a million dollars of investment in the country, but it's poorly supervised and regulated.
00:11:24.000 Talking about balancing the budget, talking about rare earth minerals in Ukraine, talking about polling of how many Americans think the country is on the right track versus the wrong track, getting questions about Taiwan, Gaza, and more.
00:11:37.000 It's ongoing, so we're going to go ahead and throw back to that. -Fired.
00:11:43.000 Or relieved of duty?
00:11:44.000 Well, that's a great idea.
00:11:46.000 I'm not going to tell this man what to do, but I will say that if I had his place, I'd fire every single one of them.
00:11:54.000 That's a very good question.
00:11:55.000 Well, it's a question we thought a lot about.
00:11:57.000 We're doing a complete review of every single aspect of what happened with the botched withdrawal of Afghanistan and plan to have full accountability.
00:12:05.000 It's one of the first things we announced at the Defense Department for that reason.
00:12:09.000 Certainly, General Raisin Cain.
00:12:12.000 He was on his way in.
00:12:13.000 He was not a part of that.
00:12:14.000 Instead, he was a part of leading the effort against ISIS by untying the hands of warfighters and finishing the job properly and then bringing our troops home.
00:12:21.000 So we're taking a very different view, obviously, than the previous administration, and there will be full accountability.
00:12:26.000 I don't see big promotions in that group.
00:12:29.000 I think they're going to be largely gone.
00:12:31.000 I know the man on my left.
00:12:33.000 I think they're going to be largely gone.
00:12:34.000 That was a horrible...
00:12:36.000 And, you know, I've dealt with the parents and the family of the 13 that were killed.
00:12:41.000 But, you know, nobody ever talks about the 40 that were so badly hurt with the arms and the legs and the face and the whole thing, the missing arms and legs.
00:12:50.000 It was so terrible the way that was handled.
00:12:52.000 And it should have been gone through Bagram.
00:12:54.000 We have a big base with big fences and nobody can get in and you have, you know, hundreds of acres.
00:13:00.000 Instead of a little local airport where the whole place went crazy.
00:13:04.000 That was so badly handled.
00:13:06.000 And I would think that most of those people are going to be gone.
00:13:08.000 Are we going to take Ogden back?
00:13:10.000 So I'll tell you what has bothered me very much, very, very much.
00:13:17.000 We give billions of dollars to Afghanistan.
00:13:20.000 Nobody knows that.
00:13:22.000 Nobody knew that.
00:13:22.000 Do you know we give billions of dollars to Afghanistan?
00:13:25.000 And yet...
00:13:27.000 We left behind all of that equipment, which wouldn't have happened.
00:13:30.000 You know, we were getting out under me.
00:13:31.000 I'm the one that got it down to 5,000 people.
00:13:33.000 We were going to get out, but we were going to keep Bagram, not because of Afghanistan, but because of China, because it's exactly one hour away from where China makes its nuclear missiles.
00:13:43.000 So we're going to keep Bagram.
00:13:45.000 We're going to keep a small force on Bagram.
00:13:47.000 We're going to have Bagram Air Base, one of the biggest air bases in the world, one of the biggest runways, one of the most powerful runways in the sense that it was very heavy concrete and steel.
00:13:57.000 You could carry about anything.
00:13:59.000 You could land anything on those runways.
00:14:02.000 We gave it up.
00:14:03.000 And you know who's occupying it right now?
00:14:04.000 China.
00:14:05.000 China.
00:14:06.000 Biden gave it up.
00:14:07.000 So we're going to keep that and we're going to have a withdrawal and we're going to take our equipment.
00:14:12.000 We're going to do it properly.
00:14:13.000 We're going to keep the equipment.
00:14:15.000 Well, they ran out.
00:14:17.000 It was what happened there was, in fact, you know, in all fairness to Putin, when he saw that, he said, well, this is our time to go and go into Ukraine, I guess, because it was the timing seemed to be about right.
00:14:30.000 But we send them billions of dollars in aid.
00:14:33.000 Which nobody knows.
00:14:34.000 If the American public knew that, they'd know it now.
00:14:38.000 And if we're doing that, I think they should give our equipment back.
00:14:41.000 And I told Pete to study that.
00:14:43.000 But we left billions, tens of billions of dollars worth of equipment behind.
00:14:48.000 Brand new trucks.
00:14:48.000 You see them display it every year on their little roadway someplace where they have a road and they drive the, you know, waving the flag and talking about America.
00:14:59.000 Beautiful equipment that's all...
00:15:02.000 I mean, the top-of-the-line stuff.
00:15:05.000 Brand-new stuff.
00:15:05.000 Now it's getting older.
00:15:07.000 But you know what?
00:15:07.000 We're going to pay them.
00:15:08.000 I think we should get a lot of that equipment back.
00:15:10.000 You know that Afghanistan is one of the biggest sellers of military equipment in the world.
00:15:15.000 You know why?
00:15:15.000 They're selling the equipment that we left.
00:15:17.000 We're first.
00:15:18.000 They were second or third.
00:15:19.000 Can you believe it?
00:15:20.000 They're selling 777,000 rifles, 70,000 armor-plated.
00:15:26.000 Many of them were armor-plated trucks and vehicles.
00:15:30.000 70,000!
00:15:31.000 If you think of a used car lot, the biggest one in the country, I would say, J.D., if somebody had 500 cars, that would be a lot.
00:15:39.000 This is 70,000 vehicles we had there.
00:15:44.000 And we left it for them.
00:15:46.000 I think we should get it back.
00:15:47.000 The spending bill that passed last night aims to cut $2 trillion.
00:15:52.000 Can you guarantee that Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security will not be touched?
00:15:56.000 Yeah, I mean, I have said it so many times, you shouldn't be asking me that question.
00:16:01.000 Okay?
00:16:02.000 This will not be read my lips.
00:16:04.000 It won't be read my lips anymore.
00:16:07.000 We're not going to touch it.
00:16:12.000 It has been to restore executive control over the executive branch.
00:16:16.000 Is it your view of your authority that you have the power to call up any one of or all of the people seated at this table and issue orders that they're bound to follow?
00:16:26.000 Oh, yeah, they'll follow the orders, yes.
00:16:29.000 No exceptions?
00:16:30.000 No exceptions.
00:16:31.000 Well, let's see, let me think.
00:16:32.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:16:34.000 She'll have an exception.
00:16:37.000 Of course no exceptions.
00:16:39.000 You know that.
00:16:40.000 Mr. President, can you clarify the Canada-Mexico tariffs?
00:16:43.000 You had put that 30-day pause, but you just referred to April.
00:16:47.000 25%.
00:16:47.000 When does it go into effect?
00:16:49.000 April 2nd.
00:16:50.000 April 2nd for Canada-Mexico.
00:16:51.000 Correct.
00:16:52.000 And for everything.
00:16:54.000 Well, we have the fentanyl-related is a pause.
00:16:59.000 If they can prove to the president they've done an excellent job.
00:17:03.000 That's what they first do in 30 days.
00:17:05.000 But then the overall is April 2nd.
00:17:08.000 So the big transaction is April 2nd.
00:17:10.000 But the fentanyl-related things, they're working hard on the border.
00:17:14.000 At the end of that 30 days, they have to prove to the president that they've satisfied him to that regard.
00:17:20.000 If they have, they'll give them a pause or he won't.
00:17:23.000 We lose 300,000 people a year to fentanyl.
00:17:29.000 Not 100, not 95, not 60 like you read.
00:17:32.000 You know, you've been reading it for years.
00:17:34.000 We lost, in my opinion, over the last couple of years.
00:17:38.000 On average, maybe close to 300,000 people.
00:17:42.000 Dead.
00:17:42.000 And the families are ruined.
00:17:44.000 You know, when they lose a daughter, when they lose a son, the families are never the same.
00:17:48.000 You're never going to be the same.
00:17:48.000 So you're talking about a million people.
00:17:51.000 But when the daughters die, I see it.
00:17:54.000 Daughters die and the sons die because of fentanyl.
00:17:57.000 And in some cases, I don't even know they're taking it.
00:18:00.000 They're buying something else, and it's laced with fentanyl, and they end up dying.
00:18:05.000 And I've known many people who've lost children to fentanyl, and for other reasons, but to fentanyl, it's such a big killer.
00:18:13.000 And those people are never the same people.
00:18:15.000 I mean, I've seen people that, for the rest of their lives, they're not the same people.
00:18:20.000 They're so different, it's not even believable.
00:18:22.000 Dynamic people, happy people that are, they die a miserable death.
00:18:27.000 And that's because of the crap that comes in through China and through Mexico and through Canada.
00:18:33.000 A lot of it comes through Canada.
00:18:36.000 Look, we support Canada.
00:18:39.000 $200 billion a year in subsidies, one way or the other.
00:18:44.000 We let them make millions of cars.
00:18:47.000 We let them send us lumber.
00:18:49.000 We don't need their lumber.
00:18:50.000 We're going to free up our lumber.
00:18:53.000 Lee's going to do that, head of environmental.
00:18:56.000 We're going to free up our lumber.
00:18:57.000 We have the best lumber there is.
00:18:58.000 We don't need their lumber.
00:18:59.000 What do we need their lumber for?
00:19:01.000 When you look at the...
00:19:03.000 We subsidize them $200 billion a year.
00:19:07.000 Without us, Canada can't make it.
00:19:09.000 You know, Canada relies on us 95%.
00:19:13.000 We rely on them 4%.
00:19:15.000 Big difference.
00:19:17.000 And I say Canada should be our 51st state.
00:19:21.000 There's no tariffs, no nothing.
00:19:23.000 And I say that we give them military protection.
00:19:26.000 They have a very small military.
00:19:28.000 They spend very little money on military.
00:19:30.000 On NATO, they're just about last in terms of payment because they say, why should we spend on military?
00:19:37.000 That's a tremendous cost.
00:19:38.000 Most nations can't afford to even think about it.
00:19:41.000 Why should we spend on military?
00:19:43.000 The United States protects us.
00:19:45.000 And I would say that's largely true.
00:19:47.000 We protect Canada, but it's not fair.
00:19:49.000 It's not fair that they're not paying their way.
00:19:53.000 And if they had to pay their way, they couldn't exist.
00:19:56.000 When I spoke to, let's call him the Prime Minister rather than the Governor, but when I spoke to him, I said, why are we giving you $200 billion a year?
00:20:07.000 He was unable to answer the question.
00:20:09.000 I said, why are we letting you make millions of cars and send them in?
00:20:14.000 He was unable to answer the question.
00:20:17.000 Justin Trudeau.
00:20:18.000 Nice guy.
00:20:19.000 I think he's a very good guy.
00:20:20.000 I call him Governor Trudeau.
00:20:21.000 He should be governor because the fact is that if we don't give them cars, we don't have to give them cars.
00:20:28.000 The tariffs will make it impossible for them to sell cars into the United States.
00:20:32.000 The tariffs will make it impossible for them to sell lumber or anything else into the United States.
00:20:39.000 And all I'm asking to do is break even or lose a little bit, but not lose $200 billion.
00:20:44.000 And we love Canada.
00:20:45.000 I love Canada.
00:20:46.000 I love the people of Canada.
00:20:49.000 But honestly, it's not fair for us to be supporting Canada.
00:20:54.000 And if we don't support them, they don't subsist as a nation.
00:20:58.000 Okay?
00:20:58.000 Mr. President, have you made a decision on what level you will seek on tariffs in the European Union?
00:21:06.000 We have made a decision.
00:21:08.000 We'll be announcing it very soon, and it'll be 25%, generally speaking, and that'll be on cars and all other things.
00:21:17.000 And the European Union is a different case than Canada, a different kind of case.
00:21:21.000 They've really taken advantage of us in a different way.
00:21:23.000 They don't accept our cars.
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00:22:30.000 President Trump is a tour de force.
00:22:32.000 He's doing a phenomenal job.
00:22:34.000 And it's just amazing.
00:22:35.000 There was some graphic going out this morning where he's taken over a thousand questions from the press.
00:22:40.000 At this time in Joe Biden's presidency, it was like, you know, barely scratching, you know, in the dozens of questions.
00:22:48.000 So I'll get that exact number for you.
00:22:50.000 you but it is very shocking uh how president trump is so adept at navigating the media in the second term too he's just got this confidence about him it's very calm uh but without further ado i want to bring in uh truly oh there it is over the 1009 questions for trump 141 for biden pretty remarkable within the first month uh and then as you know biden went off a cliff as he declined uh steadily during his tenure in office okay
00:23:18.000 Without further ado, I want to bring in Representative Chip Roy.
00:23:21.000 There was a lot of action on the House floor last night.
00:23:25.000 Congressman Roy, thank you so much for making the time here.
00:23:28.000 You are one of the leaders on this, what I call fiscal sanity, reigning in this addiction to spending within the House.
00:23:37.000 Congressman, genuinely, for Americans all across the country, thank you for being such a loud voice on this.
00:23:43.000 Tell us what happened last night.
00:23:44.000 Bring us up to speed.
00:23:45.000 There was a lot of...
00:23:46.000 You know, theater last night.
00:23:49.000 Tell us what happened.
00:23:51.000 Yeah, first of all, great to be on the show.
00:23:54.000 And yeah, proud to get out there and try to fight for some level of fiscal sanity.
00:23:58.000 I would tell you that I think what we passed last night out of the House of Representatives was a very small step, but an important step in the right direction.
00:24:06.000 What we did and what we passed out of the Budget Committee, on which I serve, and the Rules Committee, on which I serve, and then the House floor.
00:24:12.000 Is we set a floor of spending reductions.
00:24:15.000 Now, let me be very clear.
00:24:16.000 This is Washington speak.
00:24:18.000 This is actually reductions and increases.
00:24:20.000 We are not yet to the point where we've embraced the need to have the cuts that reduce the spending.
00:24:27.000 Doge is doing that.
00:24:28.000 We need to in Congress.
00:24:30.000 What we passed yesterday was a reduction in increases in spending of about $1.5 trillion, a floor.
00:24:37.000 We can go higher.
00:24:39.000 We should.
00:24:39.000 So we actually get the cuts.
00:24:41.000 But then we set that floor in place and we tied that to the tax policy.
00:24:46.000 We tied that to extending President Trump's tax cuts and then being able to provide additional tax relief.
00:24:53.000 But we put them together so that we can basically be responsible to ensure deficits will go down.
00:24:59.000 We're not where we need to be yet, but it was a step.
00:25:01.000 When you pass the budget, now the Senate has to do it.
00:25:04.000 Once we get those aligned, then we have to do the actual work of reconciliation.
00:25:10.000 Where we do all of the votes on the specific measures, the tax policy and the spending.
00:25:15.000 My requirement to my colleagues is we must reduce deficits.
00:25:18.000 We must bring down spending.
00:25:20.000 And we've got to embrace Doge and the discretionary side and make sure that we deliver reduced deficits.
00:25:26.000 This was a step forward.
00:25:27.000 And the drama was there were a few of my colleagues, mostly on the right flank, who wanted more.
00:25:32.000 And you know what?
00:25:33.000 I did too.
00:25:34.000 But I had already basically given my word in order to move this through committee to get the floor in the spending restraint and the tie to tax policy.
00:25:41.000 So a few others fought for some more good things.
00:25:44.000 I think we'll get some good results out of Victoria and Warren Davidson and others that demanded more spending restraint.
00:25:49.000 Okay, so you got to the heart of the matter where a lot of people talk about spending cuts, but what they really mean is reductions in the growth of spending.
00:25:56.000 Now, we've heard a lot of talk about getting budgets back to pre-COVID levels.
00:26:02.000 On a very fundamental level, why is that not every Republican in Congress' first instinct?
00:26:10.000 I mean, the budget expanded.
00:26:11.000 What happened to that money?
00:26:13.000 Where did it go?
00:26:14.000 Why can we not get back to the $4 or $5 trillion a year spending?
00:26:18.000 Just educate our audience in a very Washington way.
00:26:21.000 Why can we not just simply say, hey, we didn't need that money.
00:26:25.000 You know, the last couple years, we were happy with $4.5 trillion worth of spending.
00:26:29.000 Why can't we just go back?
00:26:30.000 Yeah, well, there's two reasons.
00:26:32.000 One, members of Congress don't have the courage.
00:26:34.000 And two, Doge hasn't illuminated as many things that we need to cut yet that I think we're going to be able to cut, and I think that's going to happen.
00:26:43.000 A lot of these things are things we know, but until Doge puts it out there, it's harder to get some of my friends in Congress to have the courage to go cut.
00:26:50.000 So, what does this mean?
00:26:52.000 You pointed out, so for the average viewer out there, and I think Charlie's talked about this too.
00:26:56.000 Pre-COVID, we were spending about $4.5 trillion.
00:26:59.000 This year, we're at $7 trillion.
00:27:01.000 Now, let me put in context what we passed last night.
00:27:04.000 We passed a bill that will simply reduce the increase in spending by about $150 to $200 billion a year.
00:27:13.000 That is compared to a $7 trillion current spend.
00:27:17.000 At the end of the 10-year budget window, We will have spent $84 trillion.
00:27:22.000 We will have taken in about $60-something trillion for a rough increase in the deficit and more debt of $20 trillion.
00:27:30.000 I'm not painting a great picture yet, am I? No.
00:27:33.000 I had very serious reservations about moving this bill.
00:27:37.000 But here's why it was important.
00:27:39.000 It set the stage with a floor of spending restraint.
00:27:42.000 It opened the door to reforming Medicaid.
00:27:45.000 Which we must do because it is currently being used to scam taxpayers, to give money to able-bodied Americans and illegal aliens at the expense of those who need it the most.
00:27:54.000 We need to reform it.
00:27:56.000 My colleagues who are afraid of that are wrong.
00:27:58.000 And we need to hold our colleagues accountable and discretionary to take the doge cuts like USAID and implement them.
00:28:06.000 Let me remind you, Eli Crane, my conservative friend from Arizona, offered an amendment because all of us conservatives knew that USAID was bad.
00:28:14.000 He offered an amendment to cut it by 50%.
00:28:16.000 Republicans voted for it.
00:28:19.000 102 Republicans voted for it.
00:28:21.000 114 Republicans voted against it.
00:28:24.000 That was in the fall of 23. Because of Doge, I think that vote today would be different.
00:28:29.000 But this is what we're up against.
00:28:31.000 I'm answering your question in a long form.
00:28:33.000 That's why it's a problem.
00:28:34.000 We have two and a half, you ask why it went up?
00:28:37.000 Part of that's inflation, because of the ridiculous policies under Biden, the energy policies, the big spending, and then it's the spending.
00:28:44.000 And all of that raised it from $4.5 trillion to $7 trillion.
00:28:47.000 Keep in mind, the total spend in 1987 was $1 trillion.
00:28:51.000 It was $4.5 trillion in 2019. It's already up to $7 trillion.
00:28:56.000 We've got to act.
00:28:58.000 The Senate's going to have to stand up, work with us to actually embrace additional spending restraint.
00:29:03.000 Yeah, and I think you hit on a really important piece here.
00:29:07.000 This is the Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security piece of it, the entitlements piece of it, which is...
00:29:13.000 Considered political poison for anybody to try reforming it, right?
00:29:18.000 And I know we're going to try and focus on the waste, fraud, and abuse that is certainly in those programs.
00:29:24.000 Just moments ago, President Trump commented on this.
00:29:29.000 Let's go ahead and play Cup 181. The spending bill that passed last night aims to cut $2 trillion.
00:29:35.000 Right.
00:29:35.000 Can you guarantee that Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security will not be touched?
00:29:39.000 Yeah, I mean, I have said it so many times you shouldn't be asking me that question.
00:29:44.000 Okay?
00:29:45.000 This will not be read my lips.
00:29:47.000 It won't be read my lips anymore.
00:29:50.000 We're not going to touch it.
00:29:51.000 Now, we are going to look for fraud.
00:29:53.000 I'm sure you're okay with that.
00:29:55.000 like people that shouldn't be on, people that are illegal aliens and others, criminals in many cases.
00:30:01.000 And that's with Social Security.
00:30:04.000 We have a lot of people.
00:30:05.000 You see that immediately when you see people that are 200 years old that are being sent checks for Social Security.
00:30:11.000 Some of them are actually being sent checks.
00:30:13.000 So we're tracing that down.
00:30:15.000 And I have a feeling that Pam is going to do a very good job with that.
00:30:18.000 But you have a lot of fraud.
00:30:20.000 But no, I'm not.
00:30:21.000 We're not doing anything.
00:30:22.000 So he is adamant.
00:30:24.000 We're not going to touch entitlements.
00:30:26.000 I mean, I hate to put you on the spot here, Congressman, but...
00:30:30.000 Earlier in that press conference, he said, we're going to balance the budget.
00:30:33.000 And I have to assume that he's talking about balancing the budget through rooting out waste, fraud, and abuse and growth.
00:30:39.000 Because can you do it?
00:30:41.000 Can you balance this budget without touching entitlements?
00:30:45.000 So, first of all, we can absolutely balance the budget with a combination of all of those things, right?
00:30:51.000 The president is correct that we must have economic growth.
00:30:53.000 We must...
00:30:54.000 We have spending restraint, which I think the president has agreed and said we must have cuts that will eliminate waste, fraud, and abuse.
00:31:00.000 He talks about repealing the massive subsidies under the Inflation Reduction Act.
00:31:04.000 Those things are absolutely true.
00:31:07.000 We also need to get rid of the regulatory state that is constraining economic growth, right?
00:31:11.000 And those things that are impeding Americans from being able to go produce wealth.
00:31:14.000 But what I would say to this is we have an obligation and a duty to reform Medicaid.
00:31:19.000 Why?
00:31:20.000 Because it was designed as a program to help Those who are disabled, and frankly, the people who are not able-bodied, right?
00:31:27.000 That's how it was designed.
00:31:29.000 We have a duty to the extent tax dollars are going to be committed to that end.
00:31:33.000 Then we have a duty to make sure that's what's done.
00:31:36.000 Most Americans don't know that after Obamacare, able-bodied Americans were given a higher federal matching rate, a higher rate, 90%, the dollars that go from the feds to go say, we're going to go fund Medicaid, a higher rate.
00:31:50.000 For the able-bodied expansion population on Obamacare.
00:31:53.000 I think that's wrong.
00:31:55.000 It is being gamed by California.
00:31:57.000 It is being gamed by other states for basically to funnel money so they can get federal money while they overly expand the population, whereas other states like Texas that didn't expand...
00:32:07.000 We don't have as high of a number.
00:32:09.000 Fascinating.
00:32:10.000 So we've got to fix it.
00:32:11.000 We've got to make sure that only the able-bodied aren't on it and that illegal aliens aren't on it, and that would be the reforms we need to put in place, and we can do it.
00:32:18.000 Well, I think that's smart.
00:32:19.000 And by the way, I do believe there's a lot of potential for growth, revenue growth, and Trump's announcing this gold card for $5 million.
00:32:26.000 I actually think that's kind of smart, especially if we could sort of reform some of our other broken immigration policies.
00:32:32.000 I want to give you the opportunity, Congressman Roy, what happens next?
00:32:39.000 Well, the Senate's going to have to now look at our product.
00:32:46.000 They've sent a version over, their version, which was a skinnier one to deal with border and defense.
00:32:50.000 They're going to look at ours.
00:32:51.000 They're going to try to figure out what they're going to do.
00:32:53.000 My guess is they're going to try to expand the tax side of it, make them more permanent.
00:32:57.000 I support that, comma, however, provided they also expand the spending restraint side.
00:33:04.000 We've got to do our part.
00:33:06.000 We've got to be honest.
00:33:07.000 We've got to do math.
00:33:08.000 And the singular objective should be to reduce deficits immediately, not based on some future promises.
00:33:14.000 And our budget yesterday was only a step.
00:33:16.000 It didn't get the job done.
00:33:18.000 We have more work to do.
00:33:19.000 Well, Congressman, I know that you are one of the good guys in there fighting.
00:33:22.000 Charlie has your back.
00:33:23.000 We have your back.
00:33:24.000 Thank you for all your hard work you're doing there.
00:33:26.000 Cut more.
00:33:26.000 Cut deeper.
00:33:27.000 As Mr. Wonderful is telling Doge, we tell you the same thing.
00:33:30.000 Thank you, sir.
00:33:33.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
00:33:35.000 There's a lot of excitement in Washington, D.C. as we start the year, but I wanted to talk to you about something just as exciting happening outside the D.C. Beltway, a revolution in the States.
00:33:44.000 It's the Education Freedom Movement.
00:33:46.000 It's real.
00:33:47.000 It's growing and growing because some states, as they should, are putting parents in charge of the education of their kids.
00:33:54.000 Everyone knows education has the power to change a kid's life, and anyone who raised a child knows each has different needs, learning styles, and God-given talents.
00:34:04.000 The fact is parents know their own children best, knows what's best for their development.
00:34:08.000 And future.
00:34:10.000 Education freedom legislation puts parents, not zip codes, and politicians in charge of these important family decisions.
00:34:18.000 It's why I strongly support making universal education freedom a reality for every parent in every state.
00:34:24.000 To find out where your state legislature stands and to make sure your voice is heard, go to educationfreedomusa.com now.
00:34:35.000 I had a whole thing I was going to talk about, judges freezing executive orders on foreign aid, on refugee resettlement, and all that stuff is really important.
00:34:45.000 I want to get to it at some point today if we can, but President Trump is genuinely the entrepreneur-in-chief.
00:34:54.000 This is unlike anything that our country has seen.
00:34:58.000 I would argue this is unlike anything that our country has seen, even in the first Trump administration.
00:35:03.000 Trump 2.0 is a different beast altogether.
00:35:07.000 Yes, some of the ideas are the same.
00:35:09.000 There's a consistent through line, certainly.
00:35:11.000 He had the building blocks of what we're seeing now in place, but on a very real level, he's amplified.
00:35:22.000 He's peak of his powers.
00:35:25.000 And a lot of the ideologies and the ideas and the policies that were in Trump 1.0 have crystallized and they become something more profound.
00:35:32.000 I think he's got the confidence of knowing his ideas work.
00:35:37.000 We talked about this with Mike Cernovich yesterday.
00:35:39.000 I absolutely suggest that you go check out that conversation between Mike Cernovich and Charlie Kirk.
00:35:44.000 What makes the new right more powerful is we have a self-confidence, a swagger, understanding that these aren't just pie-in-the-sky notions about Free trade versus fair trade and tariffs about peace through strength, how to use leverage on the international stage, why America has been taken for a sucker and a piggy bank by foreign oligarchs and even our allies in Europe and Canada and Mexico.
00:36:10.000 And reversing all of those.
00:36:12.000 Now, the semblance of those ideas were present, but now they're crystallized and they are fully formed.
00:36:16.000 And President Trump is executing those ideas with a confidence and a swagger that we have never seen at the presidential level.
00:36:25.000 So it's one thing after the other.
00:36:29.000 And when you watch him take these questions from the media, he doesn't get excited.
00:36:35.000 He doesn't...
00:36:37.000 You can see that it doesn't get to him.
00:36:39.000 It's not getting under his skin.
00:36:41.000 President Trump, his critics will say that he has thin skin and that things easily get to him.
00:36:46.000 I think he doesn't like putting up with BS. I think he likes challenging and punching down when a lie is spoken out loud.
00:36:55.000 And I respect that.
00:36:56.000 I actually admire that quality in him.
00:36:59.000 But just look at the way he handles some of these questions.
00:37:02.000 Cut 183. He's talking about cutting the size of government.
00:37:06.000 He says we have grown bloated and fat and disgusting.
00:37:11.000 That's a pretty remarkable thing to say.
00:37:13.000 Cut 183. We're cutting down government.
00:37:16.000 We're cutting down the size of government.
00:37:18.000 We have to.
00:37:19.000 We're bloated.
00:37:20.000 We're sloppy.
00:37:22.000 We have a lot of people that aren't doing their job.
00:37:24.000 We have a lot of people that don't exist.
00:37:27.000 He's talking about, obviously, Social Security and the people that are over 200 years old still getting, or at least, registered.
00:37:35.000 We don't know all the details.
00:37:37.000 Maybe there is some database coding error that doesn't mean they're getting money.
00:37:43.000 But we're going to find out.
00:37:44.000 That's the main thing, is that we're unearthing these problems.
00:37:46.000 We're going to get to the bottom of it.
00:37:49.000 Talks about the confidence in the nation.
00:37:51.000 You can see he's saying this about the people of America, but he believes it internally.
00:37:56.000 Playcut 184. So since the election, the confidence in our nation, including right track, wrong track, the first time it's ever happened where we were on the right track because this country has been on the wrong track for a long time.
00:38:12.000 So the confidence in business, confidence in the country has reached an all-time high.
00:38:17.000 We have never reached levels like we are right now.
00:38:20.000 We just had a conversation, an amazing conversation, with Rep.
00:38:23.000 Chip Roy.
00:38:25.000 We're talking about how can you actually reduce deficits?
00:38:28.000 How can you actually cut the size of government and get us back to a balanced budget?
00:38:33.000 Which is a repeat theme that you will hear out of this administration.
00:38:36.000 You'll hear it out of Elon Musk.
00:38:38.000 You'll hear it from Charlie Kirk.
00:38:39.000 How do we actually get there?
00:38:42.000 And I want to say, yes, we have to deal with entitlements.
00:38:45.000 There is Medicare and Medicaid reform that needs to happen without necessarily cutting anything that's legitimate.
00:38:52.000 When you look at President Trump and the way that he sells for America, whether it's mineral rights in Ukraine or Greenland or the Panama Canal or bringing in all these investments, there was another $24 billion investment this morning that was announced.
00:39:09.000 There is the potential for growth.
00:39:11.000 You talk about drill, baby drill, taking the regulations off this economy and the releasing, as some might say, the animal spirits of the economy.
00:39:21.000 And I know I don't mean that in a pagan way.
00:39:23.000 I mean that in just sort of a masculine unleashing of the energies of the producer class of this country that is actually making things and building things, investing in the economy.
00:39:34.000 I wouldn't bet against President Trump for being able to grow this economy at tremendous levels and to bring in extra revenue to actually balance this budget.
00:39:42.000 And hey, you can always buy a $5 million gold card.
00:39:45.000 Help us get there.
00:39:46.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:39:47.000 Talk to you soon.