The Charlie Kirk Show - FLASH AUDIT UPDATE: Dissecting Fulton County Fraud & Previewing Maricopa Madness

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk Show, a flash episode, an audit update with Heather Mullins from Real America Voice News.

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00:03:44.000 On the line, we have an audit expert who's been doing phenomenal work for Real America's Voice, Heather Mullins.

00:03:51.000 Hi, how's it going?

00:03:52.000 How's it going, Heather?

00:03:53.000 Thank you for joining us today, and thank you for all the great work that you are doing.

00:03:58.000 Let's start with Georgia and the audits.

00:04:01.000 You've been doing a lot of work for Real America's Voice as an investigative reporter.

00:04:05.000 Tell us, what is the status of finding out what actually happened in the 2020 election in the state of Georgia?

00:04:10.000 Well, Charlie, there's actually quite a few investigations going on in Georgia.

00:04:14.000 The one most recently that I covered this week was a lawsuit filed by a group called Voter GA.

00:04:21.000 They're an election integrity group that's been working in the state for over 20 years.

00:04:26.000 They filed a lawsuit to pretty much unseal and forensically analyze the absentee and mail-in ballots in Fulton County, Georgia.

00:04:34.000 Specifically, it's the exact same ballots that we saw in that state farm arena video that went viral of people scanning in ballots that they pulled out from underneath that table at 1 o'clock in the morning after observers were sent home.

00:04:47.000 Well, those ballots are the ones in question in this lawsuit.

00:04:50.000 And a judge so far has actually already unsealed them.

00:04:54.000 And what the plaintiffs were given were the digital ballot images.

00:04:59.000 So every time a ballot is scanned in the voting machine, it creates a digital image that is stored.

00:05:05.000 So they've had access to those.

00:05:08.000 And unfortunately, the resolution on those images is such a poor quality that the forensic experts asked for a higher resolution.

00:05:16.000 And so where this case was a couple months ago was the judge had actually ordered that the town officials had to rescan those ballots at a higher resolution and hand them the images because Georgia's Secretary of State filed a brief in this lawsuit claiming that if anybody touched those ballots, it would be a felony, Charlie, almost to try to like stop the audit from going forward.

00:05:41.000 And so this judge is like, all right, well, we're going to take the people that can legally handle those ballots and we're going to make them rescan them at a higher resolution.

00:05:50.000 So this case went back to court on Monday and the attorney representing Fulton County is one of Georgia's top criminal defense attorneys, a guy named Don Samuel, who taught a white-collar criminal defense course at Georgia University.

00:06:07.000 Let's let's link in, right?

00:06:09.000 So he started saying that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, the Secretary of State's office had already done an investigation, but there was no fraud, like nothing was found, and was basically trying to say, you know, grant my motion to dismiss this case.

00:06:25.000 Well, the judge said, well, can you cite the report?

00:06:27.000 Does anybody in this courtroom have any reports from the Georgia Secretary of State's office, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, on anything they've done that pertains to these potentially counterfeit ballots?

00:06:38.000 Nobody had any answer.

00:06:39.000 So the judge paused this lawsuit and is giving the Secretary of State and the GBI 20 days to basically bring them up to speed if they've done anything.

00:06:51.000 And if not, then when we go back to court on November 15th, the judge could then move forward to continue to unseal these ballots.

00:06:59.000 And so that's really the key is the unsealing of these ballots.

00:07:02.000 And what do you think that might lead us towards?

00:07:05.000 What are we trying to get to the place to try to impact?

00:07:08.000 You know, at this point in the game, Charlie, like, I'm not convinced we're going to get to those ballots.

00:07:13.000 There's a lot of people, a lot of affidavits, people believing ballots have been shredded or removed.

00:07:19.000 So the idea now is if we go and we unseal these ballots and they re-scan them and they don't match the original batch, then it's going to be a problem.

00:07:27.000 And this is what's so mind-blowing is that all that we're asking to do in this next step in this lawsuit is literally re-scan ballots that we already have images of.

00:07:38.000 So why is Fulton County election officials fighting so hard to keep us from simply having higher resolution pictures of the exact same ballots we already have access to?

00:07:49.000 So it makes no sense.

00:07:51.000 And, you know, when you hire criminal defense attorneys in a civil case, it raises a big red flag.

00:07:58.000 So I'm honestly not confident that all the ballots are still there, but I could be wrong and final television.

00:08:05.000 Heather, can you tell us, is Brad Roffensperger playing ball with this or is he trying to interfere with this entire process?

00:08:12.000 That's a great question.

00:08:13.000 I mean, I've caught him in several lives.

00:08:15.000 He's changed his stories.

00:08:17.000 He wrote a letter to Congress on January 6th telling them that his team did all the investigating and found no fraud.

00:08:24.000 And now he's backpedaled and is saying that, you know, there's reason to believe Fulton County didn't do things properly.

00:08:30.000 So he changed his story, and I wouldn't trust him a word out of man's mouth.

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00:11:25.000 I do want to get one more question with just Georgia in general, Heather.

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00:11:36.000 Well, I would say, Charlie, one of the biggest things is probably a story that I broke about a week and a half ago, but I've known about for months.

00:11:43.000 There's actually a group called True the Vote that over the last eight months, since the election, they have been purchasing mobile data, right?

00:11:51.000 Location-based mobile data and specifically around Dropboxes, government organizations, UPS storage, and a few other things.

00:12:01.000 And what they've been able to do is pretty much piece together the movements of individuals that had been going from Dropbox to Dropbox to Dropbox, right?

00:12:10.000 It's ballot trafficking is what they've called it. 0.97

00:12:13.000 And they actually, like an example, if this doesn't make sense, because some people are like, you know, with the location stuff, how does it work?

00:12:20.000 If you're using Google Maps and you're walking, every couple of steps you take, Google, your phone pings your location, right?

00:12:27.000 That data you can then purchase.

00:12:29.000 So if you owned a gym and someone came near your business, right, you can market to them.

00:12:34.000 Well, they've collected this data around Dropboxes and obtained the corresponding Dropbox footage, Charlie.

00:12:42.000 So now they have faces of people and 242 people that visited on average 23 drop boxes in the primary or the early voting period rather.

00:12:55.000 And so in Georgia, the law is that you're only allowed to drop your ballot in the Dropbox or your immediate family member.

00:13:03.000 So it is completely illegal to harvest ballots or go from house to house collecting them and putting them in for anyone else.

00:13:11.000 It's completely illegal.

00:13:13.000 And so they actually have video of a woman pulling ballots out of a backpack and stuffing them into a Dropbox.

00:13:20.000 Now the footage has not been released yet.

00:13:22.000 They've been working on this for months under the radar because they wanted to actually do an investigation.

00:13:27.000 They weren't trying to draw attention to it.

00:13:29.000 And they were also trying to collect all of this data, video footage, et cetera, and not sort of draw attention to it to where FOIA requests and open records requests would get delayed if they knew what they were investigating.

00:13:44.000 So where that currently stands is that they're trying to work with state and federal authorities to actually get them to start doing this investigation.

00:13:51.000 And they've threatened to start releasing the footage and all the evidence if they don't do their job, essentially.

00:13:58.000 But they are 100% convinced.

00:14:00.000 I've seen some of this footage.

00:14:02.000 I've not seen and verified all of it, but I have no doubt in my mind that these are professionals and they've had three teams of experts and analysts combing through 10 million minutes worth of ballot footage and stuff.

00:14:15.000 And they're developing AI that helps them comb through it a lot quicker.

00:14:19.000 But this is a very serious and a very real investigation.

00:14:22.000 And that is something that is going to be indisputable once it comes out.

00:14:27.000 Yeah, and I know the people at True the Vote.

00:14:28.000 They're doing phenomenal jobs.

00:14:29.000 So they are in partnership with the lead contractor OBSEC Group.

00:14:33.000 And they've spent months since the election acquiring over 27 terabytes of data as part of a massive investigation into the 2020 election.

00:14:42.000 And the data consists of more than 10 trillion location-based cell phone pings, which allows the team to track the movements of suspected ballot traffickers in six different states.

00:14:53.000 And the group has discovered 242 suspected ballot traffickers in Georgia that won on average 23 drop boxes a day during the early voting period and another 202 suspected ballot traffickers in Arizona.

00:15:07.000 And I'm reading from your article here, Heather, at America's Voice.news, just kind of summarizing what you just mentioned.

00:15:13.000 Okay, so let's go on to Arizona.

00:15:16.000 What is the update of the Arizona audit and when can we expect it to be released?

00:15:22.000 So there's going to be a hearing tomorrow at 1 p.m. on the Senate floor.

00:15:26.000 That's 1 p.m. Arizona time, where hopefully we're going to hear a lot more of what they've uncovered.

00:15:32.000 Now, the big thing, Charlie, was these routers, right, that Maricopa County election officials were not allowing the audit team to have access to, along with some other information and passwords for the voting machines.

00:15:45.000 And to explain a little backstory of why they need those routers, right?

00:15:49.000 The voting machines specifically have a server on them.

00:15:53.000 And the way these servers are designed is that it's first in, first out information.

00:15:58.000 It can only store so much information.

00:16:00.000 So once it reaches a certain point, any new entries will delete the oldest entries, if that makes sense.

00:16:08.000 And so on March 11th, someone with admin access to these machines before they were given to the audit team went in and made a blank password entry 37,000 times, right?

00:16:23.000 There's only eight administrator accounts.

00:16:26.000 So let that sink in, 37,000 entries.

00:16:29.000 And what that did is it deleted all of the information that was stored on the server from the time period of the election that the audit team would have need to see, if that makes sense.

00:16:42.000 And so the next step in their investigation was to use the routers to find out who made those entries and from where to get information.

00:16:52.000 Well, Maricopa County election officials initially were like, we'll give you the routers, but then all of a sudden decided they weren't going to do it.

00:16:59.000 And so what came about within the last day or two is apparently they reached some sort of agreement where now you have one of the congressmen there is going to serve as a special master and I guess give the audit team the information they're looking for.

00:17:17.000 So I'm curious to know how this is going to pan out tomorrow, but hopefully we'll get some answers and find out who made those 37,000 entries.

00:17:27.000 37,000 entries.

00:17:28.000 And so you said there's only eight potential people that could be suspected for that.

00:17:34.000 So that's a rather small pool of people, right?

00:17:36.000 Yes, there's, well, so here's one of the other things that the audit team found is that all of the administrators all had the same password.

00:17:44.000 So because of that, now it's sort of you can't pinpoint who signed in as what administrator because, and that's something they call like cybersecurity health, right?

00:17:56.000 One of the things they took a look at when they were doing this audit is how secure are passwords, how secure is, you know, the virus software, all that, you know, techie stuff.

00:18:05.000 And there's only eight accounts though.

00:18:07.000 So even if you forgot your password or you had to, you know, do something 37,000 times, whoever did it did it with the intention of deleting that information that they would have needed to look at.

00:18:21.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:23.000 Because by making those 37,000.

00:18:25.000 Yeah, and so I guess my question is: yeah, do we know what those entries are or we don't?

00:18:30.000 These blank password entries.

00:18:31.000 So it's almost like someone hit a button 37,000 times so that it would flush out the oldest information in the system.

00:18:38.000 So what could possibly, what would be the best possible explanation for the other side for that 37,000 entries that eight people would, what would their explanation be for that?

00:18:50.000 That's a great question.

00:18:52.000 It's a great question.

00:18:54.000 I mean, I don't have an answer.

00:18:55.000 And the audit team didn't have an answer.

00:18:57.000 And, you know, the next step in their investigation was the routers.

00:19:01.000 And Maricopa County has fought tooth and nail from giving them that.

00:19:04.000 And the other crazy part about this all is that the passwords and a lot of the credentialing, the election officials didn't even have access to.

00:19:13.000 So there's passwords that the audit team weren't given because they claimed they didn't have it and that only Dominion had it.

00:19:21.000 And so it's like, why are the people we elect or appoint to run our elections not the one in complete control of it?

00:19:28.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:19:29.000 Yeah.

00:19:30.000 And so also in the audit report, we are expecting to hear about how certain processes were not followed.

00:19:36.000 Can you talk about that as kind of how what we can expect from this report as far as certain things that were not necessarily followed the way it should have been?

00:19:45.000 Well, there's a lot to unpack there because there's a lot that wasn't a lot that wasn't followed.

00:19:50.000 But I mean, even with like the duplicate ballots, both in Arizona and Georgia, audits have found now that ballots were counted multiple times, you know, that there's processes where in Arizona they have like they're supposed to have a serial number, but the audit team found that there were, you know, thousands and thousands of ballots that weren't properly filed.

00:20:12.000 And, you know, so there's really a lot to unpack with the report, but, you know, I guess we'll find out tomorrow at one.

00:20:22.000 Yeah, so it seems like that's where it's going to come down.

00:20:25.000 So I guess my other question around the audit is what could the routers potentially tell us?

00:20:30.000 And that seems to be the hang-up, right?

00:20:33.000 What I actually, I think it might be Friday at one o'clock, but you might be right.

00:20:37.000 I'm not sure when it's all coming out.

00:20:39.000 But what?

00:20:39.000 Oh, no, no, no, you're right.

00:20:40.000 It is Friday.

00:20:42.000 What could the routers potentially tell us?

00:20:44.000 What could they reveal as we continue to look into this?

00:20:48.000 The IP addresses, the location, what computer was used to access to make those entries.

00:20:55.000 Like if you have an election office, we don't even know that it actually occurred from the election office.

00:21:01.000 I mean, this is what the routers would tell us is exactly where those entries were made from.

00:21:08.000 And so that would be the next step in finding out.

00:21:10.000 And it's amazing that nobody's come forward to say, hey, I made those entries.

00:21:16.000 This is what happened.

00:21:19.000 So for whatever reason, whoever did that or whoever's responsible has not come forward either.

00:21:24.000 So that's another red flag.

00:21:26.000 Well, it also just shows that they just don't want to give up the routers.

00:21:28.000 And when for what reason we can't quite find out, they just say it's a witch hunt.

00:21:31.000 It's terrible.

00:21:32.000 Why is it that they don't want to give up the router?

00:21:34.000 I mean, I think we all know, but that's pretty telling, isn't it?

00:21:39.000 So there was some, like, I had heard one of the theories or one of the things they were trying to say is that somehow these routers were shared with like local law enforcement.

00:21:48.000 And so by sharing the router somehow, it would jeopardize secure information or, you know, investigations.

00:21:58.000 But I mean, this is an investigation led by our Senate.

00:22:01.000 You would think that would be a priority.

00:22:05.000 Yeah, I mean, we would imagine so.

00:22:06.000 The Arizona Attorney General, though, has come and said that these people are breaking the law by not giving over the routers.

00:22:12.000 Is that true?

00:22:13.000 Yes.

00:22:13.000 So there was a subpoena for this information.

00:22:16.000 And the Attorney General ended up threatening to withhold $700 million in funding to Maricopa County if they didn't hand over the routers in 30 days, along with some other information.

00:22:28.000 And so that's really what led to this whole agreement that they came to in the last two days, where now there's going to be a designated special master that gets access to the information to give to the audit team.

00:22:42.000 So I don't know if it's going to, you know, work out in the end.

00:22:47.000 This is just sort of where we're at right now.

00:22:50.000 But, you know, the AG did a great job in withholding that money because this is something the American people deserve to have answers for.

00:22:59.000 And so for these election officials not to hand that over and break the law, he had every right to withhold that money from them.

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00:24:46.000 Heather, I want to ask your response to this breaking news this morning from Arizona, Maricopa County Supervisor Steve Chichuri on kind of an open mic, seems to be private audio, says that multifaceted voter fraud plagued the 2020 election, including dead people voting.

00:25:02.000 Now, has he said something opposite publicly?

00:25:05.000 Or I'm just curious.

00:25:06.000 I haven't been following his remarks very much.

00:25:09.000 Are you cued into this?

00:25:10.000 I mean, I honestly, I haven't been following the politicians and stuff like that.

00:25:15.000 I guess that's why I'm finding so much fraud because I'm actually digging where they're not.

00:25:19.000 But to my knowledge, I couldn't fact check them on that, unfortunately.

00:25:24.000 Yeah, so I just found it interesting because it seems to be kind of a new wrinkle in a lot of what people have been talking about.

00:25:31.000 So let's talk about the big D word: decertification. 0.63

00:25:35.000 What does that mean, Heather?

00:25:36.000 What would it take to get to that?

00:25:38.000 What is even the precedent if that happens?

00:25:40.000 Is this realistic?

00:25:41.000 I always want to manage the expectations of our listeners.

00:25:44.000 Is decertification realistic?

00:25:46.000 I mean, I've talked with a bunch of attorneys here in Georgia, and I've heard it, people saying that there is a legitimate way to decertify the election.

00:25:55.000 And I've heard other people say the contrary.

00:25:58.000 So it's really, it's hard to say, but I mean, with what happened here in Georgia, without a doubt, laws were broken that compromise enough ballots that the election can't legit, you know, can't necessarily be verified.

00:26:14.000 You know, like even the chain of custody documents in DeKalb County that recently came out, where there's a law that says when you pick up the ballots from these drop boxes, you have to immediately bring them to the elections office to then be time stamped and you signed, you count how many ballots were in the drop box, you signed a piece of paper.

00:26:34.000 There's a whole process, and over 40 to 60,000 ballots violated that process, where some of them weren't turned into the next day, according to the time stamp.

00:26:44.000 Then there's like, I think it was like 16,000 ballots that don't even have a time stamp.

00:26:49.000 So someone would have picked up these ballots from a drop box, had them for God knows how long, and then turned them into the elections office that we don't know when.

00:26:57.000 So it's like there's so much sloppiness that occurred in this past election that, you know, I'm not 100% sure if there's anything we can do about getting Trump back in office or decertifying the previous election.

00:27:13.000 But and someone once asked me, well, why are you investigating?

00:27:16.000 And it's sort of like if someone is killed, right?

00:27:18.000 We still investigate, even though we can't bring the victim back because we need to get to the truth of what happened so that we can prevent it from happening again.

00:27:26.000 So I would say our primary focus is really to uncover what happened so that we can make the next election that much safer.

00:27:33.000 Yeah, and so that's the question I want to ask.

00:27:35.000 And you guys can email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:27:38.000 What are some of the biggest issues you would like to see addressed specifically that would actually make our elections safer?

00:27:45.000 You know, there's a couple ones.

00:27:46.000 I think because a lot of these states that, you know, President Trump allegedly lost picked up Republican seats, thankfully, a bunch of Republican state legislatures passed laws requiring things like voting IDs and that sort of stuff.

00:27:59.000 The other big one is keeping people like Mark Zuckerberg from dumping half a billion dollars and funding our elections.

00:28:05.000 That's a big, big thing that is, I think, more states should start adopting that if they haven't already.

00:28:11.000 And the other one is, you know, when we have contractors like Dominion or, you know, other voting machine companies or really any company that does business with us as far as our elections go, there should be more transparency about those working relationships.

00:28:26.000 And a lot of what I've seen is things like FOIA requests, open records requests.

00:28:30.000 Once the baton gets passed to a company like Dominion, we can't access it, right?

00:28:35.000 It becomes almost like a censorship.

00:28:37.000 And Dominion in Fulton County, here's another big red flag that I think should be addressed.

00:28:42.000 The Dominion rep that oversaw the largest city in Georgia's election is a Nigerian citizen.

00:28:51.000 So how, and I have deposition documents where he testified under oath that his citizenship is for Nigeria.

00:28:58.000 And we should have to be American citizens to run our election.

00:29:03.000 Who is this person that's a foreign national? 0.98

00:29:05.000 What's the position again?

00:29:07.000 What?

00:29:08.000 What position does this?

00:29:09.000 They are the Dominion technician.

00:29:11.000 They ran the EMS server for Dominion in Fulton County.

00:29:14.000 A man named Dominic Alamo.

00:29:16.000 Yeah, that should probably be against the law, you would think.

00:29:19.000 Heather, thank you so much for joining us.

00:29:21.000 We will have you back again soon as the audit results are incoming.

00:29:24.000 I hope that clarified some questions for some people as we look for the audit results to come out.

00:29:28.000 Heather, thank you so much.

00:29:29.000 Everyone, email us your thoughts.

00:29:30.000 As always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:29:32.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:29:33.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:29:36.000 And if you want to support our program, you can do so by going to charliekirk.com/slash support.

00:29:42.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:29:43.000 God bless.

00:29:44.000 Speak to you soon.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - September 23, 2021

FLASH AUDIT UPDATE: Dissecting Fulton County Fraud & Previewing Maricopa Madness

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