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00:02:12.000Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:14.000With us today is a friend of mine and quite honestly, the only senator that I believe has been fighting for our liberty against the medical deep state, a doctor himself, Senator Rand Paul.
00:02:26.000Senator, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:03:03.000I think if you're overweight at almost any age, but particularly overweight and over 40, I think the risks of the disease are worse than the actual vaccine.
00:03:12.000The other thing is, is that I also would test whether I've been infected.
00:03:16.000So I'm 58 years old and I might be inclined to, well, I'm a little overweight, maybe, but I'm not obese.
00:03:23.000But I would probably still take the vaccine had I not already had it.
00:05:01.000You know, I see people, I have a good supporter this week where he and his wife both have it.
00:05:06.000They're in their 80s and they were vaccinated.
00:05:09.000So, you know, all this shaming of people who are unvaccinated, it's like, really, let's just let every individual make the decision, not shame people.
00:05:17.000And if someone should get sick and die, and people do.
00:05:20.000Vaccinated people have died, unvaccinated people have died.
00:05:23.000But it's like this whole idea that people think it's funny to make fun.
00:05:27.000We had an conservative announcer in Nashville who died from COVID.
00:05:32.000And the left-wing people, the vitriol and hatred, it's like, I would never think of glorifying someone's death if I disagreed with their politics or disagree with their medical decision making.
00:05:42.000But I'm horrified and I'm repulsed by people on the left, Martina Navitrilova, tweeting out, you know, just despicable, oh, yeah, you know, she just thinks it's, you know, sorry, so sorry.
00:05:54.000She thinks it's hilarious that this man died.
00:05:58.000And, you know, his whole life is sort of pushed into liberals making it all about whether you choose to get vaccinated or not.
00:06:04.000And I just despise these people for it.
00:06:09.000And so, Senator, I want to thank you for your stance on that because you have been so clear and courageous.
00:06:15.000And so many people in the Republican Party seem to be unnecessarily peddling a mandated vaccine.
00:06:21.000And that's one thing I want to ask you about when it comes to the expert class.
00:06:26.000You have challenged the medical deep state, just like you challenged the surveillance deep state, which has every prediction you made about the NSA has come true and the CIA and the FBI and their abuse of power.
00:06:38.000But it seems like that same sort of those same sort of characteristics are now within the NIH and CDC.
00:06:44.000Can you talk about how big government is now big medicine or big health, which is something that those of us that really weren't into it never really realized?
00:06:54.000You know, anytime you centralize power or decision-making, there's a danger for authoritarianism.
00:07:00.000It's really what we resisted going back all the way to Magna Carta.
00:07:04.000It was the resistance of centralized power and having too much power in one hands.
00:07:09.000And so the history of our constitution and of constitutional government is separating the powers, whether it's governors or presidents.
00:07:15.000We have legislators to check and balance their powers.
00:07:20.000And as we go forward, whether it's medicine or anything else or the intelligence agencies, too much power has gravitated into one hands and has been left unchecked.
00:07:29.000For example, what the intelligence community did to Donald Trump to spy on his campaign, the thing is, is what happened to the good people on the left who are doubtful of the intelligence commissions during the community during the 1960s when they spied on civil rights leaders and they spied on Vietnam War protesters.
00:07:47.000The left came together and said this was horrible.
00:07:50.000But when the government intelligence agency spied on Donald Trump, they all said, oh, well, we don't really care because we don't like Donald Trump.
00:07:57.000And I'm still looking for some consistency on the left.
00:08:12.000The Democrat Party now wants to have more censorship of your speech on Facebook.
00:08:17.000If you doubt whether or not a newborn ought to be forced to be vaccinated, that's somehow disinformation.
00:08:23.000And you're going to be, you know, according to Amy Klovichar and her minions, they want to control what speech is on there and they know the truth, but nobody else knows the truth.
00:08:31.000But you'll know it if Amy Klovichar agrees with you.
00:08:35.000Yeah, so I think we need to bring back the church and pike committees and have it the Paul and Lee committee because we need to bring these intelligence agencies to heal.
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00:09:41.000Which it seems as if this was done recklessly and imprudently.
00:09:44.000Can you talk about how we need to resist the calls to get re-engaged in the region because of how terrible this was handled?
00:09:51.000Because that's my fear, Senator, is that there was a consensus to withdraw.
00:09:55.000And now, because of how terrible this was handled, all of a sudden this might give some of the neoconservatives a little bit more room to try to reinvade some sort of Arab nation.
00:10:06.000Well, history will teach us lessons if we're willing to listen and we're willing to learn.
00:10:11.000But the lesson here is not that we left too soon, but that we stayed too long.
00:10:16.000I think there was a certain inevitability to some degree of chaos in leaving.
00:10:20.000I think they probably can't imagine any worse chaos than the Biden administration's execution of leaving.
00:10:26.000But that being said, staying there another 10 years made it worse.
00:10:30.000So 10 years ago, there might have been less chaos.
00:10:32.00015 years ago, there'd be even less chaos.
00:10:57.000In fact, it turns out that they're not willing to fight at all for their country.
00:11:01.000Now people want to admit tens of thousands of Afghans to our country.
00:11:04.000And I'm like, well, aren't you just admitting defeat and surrender by bringing all the Western English-speaking folks, the people who are pro-West out of Afghanistan?
00:11:13.000There'll be nothing left but the Taliban.
00:11:16.000So I knew a month or two ago that something was up when everybody said, oh, we've got to get out 20,000 interpreters and all their family.
00:11:23.000We're going to take 70,000 people before the Taliban took over.
00:11:27.000It's like, you guys are just admitting defeat.
00:11:29.000It's sort of like, you remember in 1812, they come into Washington, D.C., they burn the White House, they burn the Capitol.
00:12:31.000Yeah, so just a quick follow-up on that, Senator.
00:12:34.000The lesson that I really hope our generation takes from this is that there are unintended consequences to all of this.
00:12:41.000And, you know, you've sponsored bills and you've done committees and you've published reports that we're fighting our own weapons a lot of times, that it sounds nice to go sell weapons to the Syrian rebels.
00:12:51.000And then all of a sudden you find out that we're now getting missiles that we developed in our own country.
00:12:58.000Doesn't that take a certain amount of humility, though, for our leaders and for the military-industrial complex that they don't have?
00:13:04.000They feel as if they could play war games with people from Middle America and our own tax dollars in regions halfway around the world.
00:13:12.000We should learn lessons from history because time and time again, we've given weapons to people we thought were our friends, only to have that government toppled and the people who are not our friends take the weapons.
00:13:22.000It happened when the Shah was toppled.
00:13:24.000It happened throughout the Middle East every time.
00:13:28.000And so the thing is, is that we also go in in a naive way, we say, oh, we're going to support the moderate rebels in Syria.
00:13:34.000Well, it turns out the only people fighting very hard in Syria were not the doctors and dentists.
00:13:39.000It was the al-Nusra, the Al-Qaeda, the people who hate us just as much as they hated ISIS.
00:13:45.000In fact, they never were sure who they hated more.
00:13:48.000But yeah, we don't seem to learn our lesson.
00:13:50.000But if we could not create a nation in Afghanistan after 20 years and hundreds of billions and they're not willing to fight, it's like now the left in Washington is like, oh, we have to go back to Afghanistan and fight for women's rights.
00:14:02.000Well, how come the families of the women over there don't fight?
00:15:26.000And so the problem is they couldn't do it without Republican complicity.
00:15:31.000And 18 big government Republicans in the Senate voted with them.
00:15:35.000I'm sure some big government Republicans will vote for it in the House.
00:15:39.000But the thing is, is that if they had to do this on a simple Republican Democrat vote in the Senate, which they still could, and the vice president would break the tie, then they would own it.
00:15:51.000They're going to say, oh, it's a bipartisan package.
00:15:53.000The public will be confused over which part of the package some Republicans voted for, which part of the package some Republicans voted against.
00:16:01.000We need more conservative Republicans.
00:16:04.000This is why people need to be aware of which Republicans voted to impeach President Trump on trumped-up charges, basically.
00:16:12.000The charges were not something deserving of impeachment.
00:16:15.000And yet we lost Republicans on this who deserted their president.
00:16:19.000So I think that primaries are important and we'll see what happens.
00:16:23.000And it's important that we find the best candidates in the primaries as we move forward towards 2022.
00:16:28.000Yeah, just really quick, any in particular, Senator, that you're looking at that you're involved in that you're endorsing?
00:16:33.000Because we get these questions all the time from our listeners.
00:16:36.000The two worst in the House and that need to go are Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, probably in no worse representatives that I know of in the House.
00:16:44.000They were never Trumpers, but they're also forever warmongers.
00:17:01.000Wyoming's very Republican, and I think that quite a few people are going to be unhappy with Liz Cheney voting to continue all the wars, but also voting to impeach the president.
00:17:11.000And just all of her nastiness around that.
00:17:13.000Well, Senator, thank you for what you're doing.
00:17:15.000And in the next hearing, give Fauci our best and keep on challenging him with true facts.