The Charlie Kirk Show - August 24, 2021


Flash Episode—Senator Rand Paul Joins the Show

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vaccine approval and risks unvaccinated individuals vs. Vaccine Mandates big government/big health
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Ron Paul Donald Trump Nancy Pelosi Amy Klovichar Liz Cheney Chris Biden Turning Point USA Martina Navatrolova Glenn Greenwald Adam Kinzinger Phil Valentine Good Ranchers James Madison Magna Carta Bin Laden Tricia Connor Debbie Sandra and 3 more
Ask Charlie Anything 76: Can Biden Be Removed from Office? Can Vaccine Prevent Transmission? A Down Side to Civil Rights Movement? And MORE! America & Afghanistan’s Puppet Presidencies Have Fallen

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On this flash episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, Rand Paul joins us to talk about the vaccine, the surveillance state, and Afghanistan. Send us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.show and when you guys support us, you make this show possible.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, on this flash episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, Rand Paul joins our program to talk about the vaccine, the surveillance state, and Afghanistan.
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00:02:11.000 Hey, everybody.
00:02:12.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:14.000 With us today is a friend of mine and quite honestly, the only senator that I believe has been fighting for our liberty against the medical deep state, a doctor himself, Senator Rand Paul.
00:02:26.000 Senator, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:28.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie.
00:02:29.000 So, Senator, the FDA has just approved the Pfizer vaccine.
00:02:34.000 It seems like that is rushed.
00:02:36.000 There's a lot of different opinions being offered about this.
00:02:39.000 From your own medical expertise, what is your opinion of this?
00:02:44.000 I think when you decide to take any kind of medicine, you weigh the risks of the medicine versus the risks of the disease.
00:02:50.000 So really, it depends on how old you are.
00:02:52.000 I mean, if you're over 65, I think the risks of dying from COVID are pretty high.
00:02:57.000 And I think the risks of the vaccine are pretty low in comparison.
00:03:00.000 So over 65, I would take the vaccine. 0.99
00:03:03.000 I think if you're overweight at almost any age, but particularly overweight and over 40, I think the risks of the disease are worse than the actual vaccine.
00:03:12.000 The other thing is, is that I also would test whether I've been infected.
00:03:16.000 So I'm 58 years old and I might be inclined to, well, I'm a little overweight, maybe, but I'm not obese.
00:03:23.000 But I would probably still take the vaccine had I not already had it.
00:03:27.000 But I know I had it.
00:03:28.000 I know I had antibody response.
00:03:30.000 And the thing is, is all the studies show that natural infection is at least as good as the vaccine.
00:03:36.000 Some studies are actually showing that natural infection may be better against some of the variants.
00:03:41.000 But the bottom line is, is we should all be allowed the freedom to make this decision, and it should be based on facts.
00:03:47.000 Dr. Fauci and the elitists and the Biden administration, they don't want anybody to think about the facts.
00:03:53.000 The facts be damned.
00:03:55.000 They don't care whether you've had it or not. 0.87
00:03:56.000 They just want you to submit.
00:03:58.000 It's more about the collective.
00:04:00.000 It's about the beehive.
00:04:01.000 It's not about the individual.
00:04:03.000 And if you ever hear Fauci mention individual rights, he's very, very dismissive.
00:04:08.000 And he thinks we ought to just listen to him.
00:04:10.000 You know, do as you're told and don't pipe up with any, you know, troublesome questions.
00:04:16.000 He just wants you to do as you're told.
00:04:18.000 But that's not the tradition of America and it's not the tradition of science.
00:04:22.000 Typically, medical care is individualized.
00:04:25.000 So I think each individual ought to make a decision.
00:04:28.000 And while I give advice on who I think ought to take it, I haven't told anybody not to take it.
00:04:33.000 And so I think that people need to be able to make their decision.
00:04:36.000 Look, 90% of people over 65 have taken the vaccine.
00:04:40.000 That's extraordinary.
00:04:42.000 They all acted in their own self-interest and took it.
00:04:44.000 But the thing is, does that mean we have to force every five-year-old or every 10-year-old in our country to take it?
00:04:50.000 I don't agree with that.
00:04:52.000 And most of that is because we're ignoring natural immunity.
00:04:55.000 There's about 100 million or more Americans who have now had COVID.
00:04:59.000 Every day there's more.
00:05:01.000 You know, I see people, I have a good supporter this week where he and his wife both have it.
00:05:06.000 They're in their 80s and they were vaccinated.
00:05:09.000 So, you know, all this shaming of people who are unvaccinated, it's like, really, let's just let every individual make the decision, not shame people.
00:05:17.000 And if someone should get sick and die, and people do.
00:05:20.000 Vaccinated people have died, unvaccinated people have died.
00:05:23.000 But it's like this whole idea that people think it's funny to make fun.
00:05:27.000 We had an conservative announcer in Nashville who died from COVID.
00:05:32.000 And the left-wing people, the vitriol and hatred, it's like, I would never think of glorifying someone's death if I disagreed with their politics or disagree with their medical decision making.
00:05:42.000 But I'm horrified and I'm repulsed by people on the left, Martina Navitrilova, tweeting out, you know, just despicable, oh, yeah, you know, she just thinks it's, you know, sorry, so sorry. 0.99
00:05:54.000 She thinks it's hilarious that this man died.
00:05:58.000 And, you know, his whole life is sort of pushed into liberals making it all about whether you choose to get vaccinated or not.
00:06:04.000 And I just despise these people for it.
00:06:07.000 Yeah, Phil Valentin from Tennessee.
00:06:09.000 And so, Senator, I want to thank you for your stance on that because you have been so clear and courageous.
00:06:15.000 And so many people in the Republican Party seem to be unnecessarily peddling a mandated vaccine.
00:06:21.000 And that's one thing I want to ask you about when it comes to the expert class.
00:06:26.000 You have challenged the medical deep state, just like you challenged the surveillance deep state, which has every prediction you made about the NSA has come true and the CIA and the FBI and their abuse of power.
00:06:38.000 But it seems like that same sort of those same sort of characteristics are now within the NIH and CDC.
00:06:44.000 Can you talk about how big government is now big medicine or big health, which is something that those of us that really weren't into it never really realized?
00:06:54.000 You know, anytime you centralize power or decision-making, there's a danger for authoritarianism.
00:07:00.000 It's really what we resisted going back all the way to Magna Carta.
00:07:04.000 It was the resistance of centralized power and having too much power in one hands.
00:07:09.000 And so the history of our constitution and of constitutional government is separating the powers, whether it's governors or presidents.
00:07:15.000 We have legislators to check and balance their powers. 0.99
00:07:18.000 So this is incredibly important.
00:07:20.000 And as we go forward, whether it's medicine or anything else or the intelligence agencies, too much power has gravitated into one hands and has been left unchecked.
00:07:29.000 For example, what the intelligence community did to Donald Trump to spy on his campaign, the thing is, is what happened to the good people on the left who are doubtful of the intelligence commissions during the community during the 1960s when they spied on civil rights leaders and they spied on Vietnam War protesters.
00:07:47.000 The left came together and said this was horrible.
00:07:50.000 But when the government intelligence agency spied on Donald Trump, they all said, oh, well, we don't really care because we don't like Donald Trump.
00:07:57.000 And I'm still looking for some consistency on the left.
00:08:01.000 Same with speech.
00:08:02.000 Where are the good defenders of freedom of speech on the left?
00:08:05.000 There are a few.
00:08:06.000 Glenn Greenwald has been amazing on the issue of freedom of speech, but many on the left.
00:08:11.000 I mean, it's amazing.
00:08:12.000 The Democrat Party now wants to have more censorship of your speech on Facebook.
00:08:17.000 If you doubt whether or not a newborn ought to be forced to be vaccinated, that's somehow disinformation.
00:08:23.000 And you're going to be, you know, according to Amy Klovichar and her minions, they want to control what speech is on there and they know the truth, but nobody else knows the truth.
00:08:31.000 But you'll know it if Amy Klovichar agrees with you.
00:08:35.000 Yeah, so I think we need to bring back the church and pike committees and have it the Paul and Lee committee because we need to bring these intelligence agencies to heal. 1.00
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00:09:33.000 I want to talk about Afghanistan.
00:09:36.000 It is long past time that we ended the war in Afghanistan.
00:09:39.000 The question is, how would we end it?
00:09:41.000 Which it seems as if this was done recklessly and imprudently.
00:09:44.000 Can you talk about how we need to resist the calls to get re-engaged in the region because of how terrible this was handled?
00:09:51.000 Because that's my fear, Senator, is that there was a consensus to withdraw.
00:09:55.000 And now, because of how terrible this was handled, all of a sudden this might give some of the neoconservatives a little bit more room to try to reinvade some sort of Arab nation.
00:10:06.000 Well, history will teach us lessons if we're willing to listen and we're willing to learn.
00:10:11.000 But the lesson here is not that we left too soon, but that we stayed too long.
00:10:16.000 I think there was a certain inevitability to some degree of chaos in leaving.
00:10:20.000 I think they probably can't imagine any worse chaos than the Biden administration's execution of leaving.
00:10:26.000 But that being said, staying there another 10 years made it worse.
00:10:30.000 So 10 years ago, there might have been less chaos.
00:10:32.000 15 years ago, there'd be even less chaos.
00:10:35.000 Imagine this.
00:10:36.000 Imagine that we went in and then three months got rid of the Taliban government, and then we had decided just to hunt terrorists.
00:10:42.000 You know, we hunted bin Laden for another eight or nine years.
00:10:46.000 We could have still done that without occupying the country and every village in Afghanistan. 1.00
00:10:50.000 And maybe gradually there would have been a fighting force that would have developed.
00:10:54.000 But we went in and did the fighting.
00:10:56.000 We did all of the fighting.
00:10:57.000 In fact, it turns out that they're not willing to fight at all for their country.
00:11:01.000 Now people want to admit tens of thousands of Afghans to our country.
00:11:04.000 And I'm like, well, aren't you just admitting defeat and surrender by bringing all the Western English-speaking folks, the people who are pro-West out of Afghanistan? 0.88
00:11:13.000 There'll be nothing left but the Taliban. 0.82
00:11:16.000 So I knew a month or two ago that something was up when everybody said, oh, we've got to get out 20,000 interpreters and all their family.
00:11:23.000 We're going to take 70,000 people before the Taliban took over.
00:11:27.000 It's like, you guys are just admitting defeat.
00:11:29.000 It's sort of like, you remember in 1812, they come into Washington, D.C., they burn the White House, they burn the Capitol. 0.60
00:11:37.000 Did we run to France?
00:11:38.000 Did James Madison get on the first plane to France?
00:11:41.000 No, we stayed and we fought.
00:11:43.000 Eventually, we fought and regained our freedom again and repulsed the British.
00:11:47.000 But my goodness, the president flees?
00:11:50.000 They all throw down their arms.
00:11:51.000 The Taliban are all wearing our uniforms. 1.00
00:11:52.000 How insulting.
00:11:54.000 Do you know when the Taliban flew back from Qatar?
00:11:56.000 They flew back on an American Air Force plane.
00:12:01.000 It was owned by the Qataris.
00:12:02.000 Once again, why the hell are we selling all these planes to everybody in the world?
00:12:07.000 And then they're using them to fly the Taliban around. 0.97
00:12:10.000 But it's disgusting.
00:12:11.000 The Taliban will now rule with our arms, our uniforms, our Humvees, probably our tanks, hopefully not our planes. 0.97
00:12:19.000 But what a disaster.
00:12:21.000 But the lesson to be learned here is nation building doesn't work.
00:12:23.000 We spent hundreds of billions of dollars there and it did not work.
00:12:28.000 So let's don't ever try this again.
00:12:31.000 Yeah, so just a quick follow-up on that, Senator.
00:12:34.000 The lesson that I really hope our generation takes from this is that there are unintended consequences to all of this.
00:12:41.000 And, you know, you've sponsored bills and you've done committees and you've published reports that we're fighting our own weapons a lot of times, that it sounds nice to go sell weapons to the Syrian rebels.
00:12:51.000 And then all of a sudden you find out that we're now getting missiles that we developed in our own country.
00:12:58.000 Doesn't that take a certain amount of humility, though, for our leaders and for the military-industrial complex that they don't have?
00:13:04.000 They feel as if they could play war games with people from Middle America and our own tax dollars in regions halfway around the world. 0.92
00:13:12.000 We should learn lessons from history because time and time again, we've given weapons to people we thought were our friends, only to have that government toppled and the people who are not our friends take the weapons.
00:13:22.000 It happened when the Shah was toppled. 0.89
00:13:24.000 It happened throughout the Middle East every time. 0.93
00:13:28.000 And so the thing is, is that we also go in in a naive way, we say, oh, we're going to support the moderate rebels in Syria.
00:13:34.000 Well, it turns out the only people fighting very hard in Syria were not the doctors and dentists.
00:13:39.000 It was the al-Nusra, the Al-Qaeda, the people who hate us just as much as they hated ISIS.
00:13:45.000 In fact, they never were sure who they hated more.
00:13:48.000 But yeah, we don't seem to learn our lesson.
00:13:50.000 But if we could not create a nation in Afghanistan after 20 years and hundreds of billions and they're not willing to fight, it's like now the left in Washington is like, oh, we have to go back to Afghanistan and fight for women's rights.
00:14:02.000 Well, how come the families of the women over there don't fight? 1.00
00:14:06.000 How come they throw down their arms?
00:14:07.000 They want us to go back and lay our lives on the line for them when they're not willing to fight.
00:14:11.000 And then they say, oh, we want to come to America.
00:14:13.000 It's a lot safer in America.
00:14:14.000 Well, yeah, because we fought for our country.
00:14:17.000 Go back and fight for your country is what I say.
00:14:20.000 I couldn't agree more.
00:14:21.000 And unfortunately, there's a consensus, a bipartisan consensus in D.C.
00:14:26.000 And you stand apart from that to try and break the country and then bring people into this country and only creates more turmoil. 1.00
00:14:34.000 Senator, I want to finish by asking you about Washington, D.C.'s current addiction to spending.
00:14:38.000 It seems as if 18 Republicans or 19 Republicans just are looking for excuses to spend trillions of dollars we do not have.
00:14:45.000 And now there's a looming $3.5 trillion spending bill.
00:14:48.000 I'm sure you're a no on that.
00:14:50.000 But can you talk about the infrastructure bill and kind of how that all went down?
00:14:53.000 I was stunned to see so many Republicans support it.
00:14:57.000 Well, they convinced themselves somehow that this was going to be less bad than having it all in one package.
00:15:03.000 But Nancy Pelosi from the beginning said it was a twofer.
00:15:06.000 It was a two-for-one.
00:15:08.000 And she's still saying that.
00:15:09.000 You don't even get the infrastructure bill unless you pass the big socialist grab bag of $3.5 trillion worth of debt.
00:15:16.000 So the thing is, is that it always has been one big package.
00:15:20.000 It's enormous.
00:15:21.000 It's going to be four or five trillion dollars of additional debt.
00:15:24.000 Some estimate more.
00:15:26.000 And so the problem is they couldn't do it without Republican complicity.
00:15:31.000 And 18 big government Republicans in the Senate voted with them.
00:15:35.000 I'm sure some big government Republicans will vote for it in the House.
00:15:39.000 But the thing is, is that if they had to do this on a simple Republican Democrat vote in the Senate, which they still could, and the vice president would break the tie, then they would own it.
00:15:49.000 Instead, now it's a mixed bag.
00:15:51.000 They're going to say, oh, it's a bipartisan package.
00:15:53.000 The public will be confused over which part of the package some Republicans voted for, which part of the package some Republicans voted against.
00:16:00.000 This is why we have primaries.
00:16:01.000 We need more conservative Republicans.
00:16:04.000 This is why people need to be aware of which Republicans voted to impeach President Trump on trumped-up charges, basically.
00:16:12.000 The charges were not something deserving of impeachment.
00:16:15.000 And yet we lost Republicans on this who deserted their president.
00:16:19.000 So I think that primaries are important and we'll see what happens.
00:16:23.000 And it's important that we find the best candidates in the primaries as we move forward towards 2022.
00:16:28.000 Yeah, just really quick, any in particular, Senator, that you're looking at that you're involved in that you're endorsing?
00:16:33.000 Because we get these questions all the time from our listeners.
00:16:36.000 The two worst in the House and that need to go are Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, probably in no worse representatives that I know of in the House.
00:16:44.000 They were never Trumpers, but they're also forever warmongers.
00:16:48.000 And so they got to go hand in hand.
00:16:50.000 And people need to realize that the people who have been the strongest, never Trumpers, have also been the most for a forever war.
00:16:55.000 Those are two we're going to work hard to make sure that they don't come back again.
00:17:00.000 And I think we have a real shot.
00:17:01.000 Wyoming's very Republican, and I think that quite a few people are going to be unhappy with Liz Cheney voting to continue all the wars, but also voting to impeach the president.
00:17:11.000 And just all of her nastiness around that. 0.99
00:17:13.000 Well, Senator, thank you for what you're doing.
00:17:15.000 And in the next hearing, give Fauci our best and keep on challenging him with true facts.
00:17:20.000 So we appreciate it.
00:17:21.000 Senator, great to see you.
00:17:22.000 Thank you.
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