Rand Paul caught up with Charlie Kirk between votes and a packed schedule to talk impeachment, civil liberties, and much more. Senator Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, is probably the most courageous United States senator in the country, and someone who I m honored to call a friend.
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00:01:24.000Welcome to this very special episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:26.000With us today is probably the most courageous United States senator in the country and someone who I'm honored to call a friend, Senator Rand Paul.
00:01:34.000Senator, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:56.000They all know how they're going to vote.
00:02:57.000Why don't we decide this from the very get-go?
00:02:59.000We didn't think we'd get to 50, but I thought we could get into the 40s.
00:03:04.000But really, anything above 34 proves that the impeachment is over.
00:03:08.000The impeachment's now dead on arrival.
00:03:10.000And this was to prove that, but also to let people see, if you don't say anything, no one would realize the great anomaly that the person sitting in the chair is not the chief justice.
00:04:01.000But really, this was a real chance for President Biden.
00:04:05.000He could have risen to the occasion and been a statesman and said, you know what?
00:04:10.000It would just bring up the bitterness of the election and let's move on to my agenda.
00:04:15.000His point, his numbers would have gone up 10 points.
00:04:18.000But instead, he's beholden to the left-wing crazies in his party that want nothing but, you know, anger and vitriol and they want their pound of flesh.
00:04:28.000So anyway, I think we've foiled their plans because everybody can go and yawn.
00:04:37.000Well, and I want to thank you and compliment you because the constitutional privilege, the way you explained it, was really helpful because I was just curious how it got to a floor vote so quickly.
00:04:45.000It really did make this debt on arrival.
00:04:48.000And Senator, you changed the national conversation on this impeachment overnight, almost instantaneously, where it went from vote counting to should this even be happening at all whatsoever.
00:04:58.000And you challenged the legitimacy of it, which was so desperately needed because I think that too many Republicans were legitimizing something that really isn't an impeachment.
00:05:08.000The founders never thought impeachment should be for private citizens.
00:05:11.000It should be for current civil office holders.
00:05:14.000And you said something in your speech, Senator, that I want to zero in on, where you said Donald Trump is really all that keeps the Democrats together.
00:05:21.000It's as if they want to just keep on bringing him up.
00:05:24.000And I thought that was a really important point.
00:05:26.000And so do you view this then as nothing more than just an excuse not to govern, almost an excuse to keep their rank and file happy and try and almost redo an election that they were happy with the outcome of?
00:06:21.000Those are the language they put in there, that this is a terrible thing that he said.
00:06:25.000I asked him on the Senate floor, what Democrat, raise your hand if you have never given a speech where you said, go fight to take back your country or go fight for your country or go fight for this principle.
00:06:35.000You know, fighting is a figurative word.
00:06:39.000And it's funny, most of the time, we don't go on to explain peacefully, but the president actually took the time to say peacefully.
00:06:46.000And he said, let your voices be heard.
00:06:48.000He didn't say go down there with pitchforks or guns and attack the, you know.
00:06:53.000But the thing is, is if the president's going to be held responsible in a ridiculous, over-the-top, unfair way, shouldn't we at least look at Democrats' language?
00:07:04.000And this was a big part of what I wanted to bring forward.
00:07:06.000And even many of the media still haven't realized this.0.77
00:07:09.000I asked whether we should impeach Kamala Harris.
00:07:12.000Kamala Harris has been giving bail money to people who have been violently burning our city.
00:07:17.000She's advocated for this freedom fund, and she wants to give them money to get out of jail after they try to throw Molokov cocktails at policemen after they burn our cities.
00:07:26.000She wants to help them get out of jail.
00:07:27.000And some very violent people use that fund to get out of jail in Minnesota.1.00
00:07:32.000But would we call for impeaching her?0.96
00:07:34.000I would criticize her, but I would never call for an impeaching her because that would be ridiculous.
00:07:39.000But the other side doesn't want to use the same kind of a reply, the same kind of standard to their people.
00:08:00.000And it actually ties to this question, which is, I think that the Democrats and some of the establishment Republicans are licking their chops because they see a new Patriot Act opportunity to spy on American citizens.
00:08:14.000Senator, you really kind of, in my first memory of your political career in the Senate, you filibustered the potential drone reconnaissance of Americans.
00:08:25.000I might be misremembering it, but it was something of that nature.
00:08:29.000You've been speaking about the threat of the federal government being able to spy on American citizens.
00:08:35.000Well, now we have, they're not hiding it anymore.
00:08:37.000They're saying that even libertarians could potentially be spied on.
00:08:41.000That's John Brennan's words, not my own.
00:08:44.000Senator, can you talk about how dangerous this is and why we must stand up against it early?
00:08:49.000Because a new Patriot Act, it could fundamentally change the country altogether.
00:08:55.000Yeah, beware what they slip in when they start talking about terrorism.
00:08:58.000You know, after 9-11, they said we have to go after the terrorists.0.77
00:09:02.000And my first reaction was, I'm fine going after these foreign terrorists and I want you to spy on them, snoop on them, whatever you need to do.
00:09:09.000But the people who attacked us on 9-11 need to be punished.0.92
00:09:12.000But then I found out that their plan, and my dad was big on exposing this, they'd had this plan.
00:09:18.000The Patriot Act had been written for 10 years before they sprung it on us.
00:09:23.000Remember Rahm Emanuel saying, let no crisis be wasted.
00:09:28.000In times of crisis, when people are actually trying to do the right thing, what happens is your civil liberties are eroded and slip away, times of war, times of crisis, but then it's hard to get them back.
00:09:39.000So they said, we have to spy on these people who might attack us.
00:09:42.000But then it turns out they were spying on Americans, not just a few Americans, not Americans who they were suspicious of that might have been calling a foreign terrorist.
00:10:48.000But then they start to define, well, you know what?
00:10:51.000If you're someone who believes that there might have been election fraud, that is something that could provoke people and people who think that the last election wasn't fair.
00:11:01.000You know, these people could be dangerous.
00:11:03.000So we can't let anybody on television who says they doubt the election.
00:11:07.000Although this is kind of new, because you remember Hillary Clinton kept saying that the election against her was hijacked.
00:11:12.000She was saying that up until a couple of weeks ago, that the election where she lost was unfair and hijacked and Trump was illegitimate.
00:11:22.000So it was fine for four years against Trump.
00:11:24.000But now, if there's new legislation, beware what it's going to include.
00:11:28.000You actually have Democrats saying, well, you know, the Alien and Sedition Acts that John Adams put in that for most of our history, Americans have been taught how horrendous this was to free speech.
00:11:38.000They put congressmen in jail for speech.
00:11:43.000There's actually people on the left writing so-called serious essays saying, well, we do, we can't really have completely free speech because there might be misinformation.
00:11:54.000You know, Katie Curtis saying now that some of us may need to go to debrief and be deprogrammed.
00:12:14.000But the thing is, is really, that's what they're talking about.
00:12:18.000They're actually talking about that some of us need to be deprogrammed because we might spread disinformation.
00:12:24.000This is very, very dangerous, but it's not brand new.
00:12:27.000Some of it started with this climate stuff.
00:12:29.000The climate alarmist started this maybe 10 years ago, and now they've made it so universal that there are programs that already won't have you on.
00:12:38.000If you say, well, no, I don't think the world's going to end in 10 years.
00:12:42.000I think there might be some geologic forces.
00:12:45.000There might be some historical, you know, eon-long forces that have to do with climate as well.
00:14:01.000Can you put a Chiron below and say, every time I say fight or any kind of martial term, that I'm really not to be taken literally, but figuratively?
00:14:11.000All right, because I'm afraid I can get on their list too.
00:14:33.000And I'm thinking to myself, is now all of a sudden someone going to get some sort of FISA warrant because of that?
00:14:39.000But I think it's also important that when we push back, we talk about Democrat language because there's a lot of very specific inciting language.
00:14:48.000For example, the Maxine Waters about getting a crowd of people going into restaurants, mobbing people.
00:14:57.000Her actual quote is even worse than what I just said.0.99
00:15:00.000Corey Booker said, get up in their face.
00:15:03.000Bernie Sanders and others have said the health care plan is the Republican health care plan is you get sick and then you die.
00:15:10.000These are things that actually did incite violence.
00:15:13.000All of the violence in our cities, you got that crazy mayor out in Seattle saying, oh, you know, half of our city's burning and they're taking over blocks of their city and they have anarchy.
00:15:23.000And she says, oh, it's just the summer of love.
00:15:26.000Did she incite or encourage those people by saying, we're not going to send the police after you because we're just going to treat this as a summer of love?
00:15:34.000I think the more we mention the hypocrisy, the more people scratch their head because if violence, if somehow people on the right who encourage people to do something, they're going to define as violence.
00:16:20.000Well, Senator, thank you for your courage.
00:16:22.000And I think we're going to be talking again because my guess is that one of these surveillance bills is going to be popping up very soon in the Senate, especially with the new leadership.
00:16:30.000And you getting out in front of it and getting our other Republican colleagues, hopefully, not to support it is super important.
00:16:38.000There's other things I want to talk to you about.
00:16:39.000I just want to thank you one last thing.
00:16:40.000Thank you for protecting the filibuster because when you fought to keep the filibuster in place under Trump when it was tempting, look how happy we are right now.