The Charlie Kirk Show - Following The Money... All the Way to Harvard

00:00:00.000 Welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show, everyone.

00:00:01.000 I'm Alexander Marlowe, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News and host of The Alex Marlowe Show, filling in for Charlie while he's got a travel day.

00:00:08.000 And I start the show with a nine-minute beatdown on Harvard, where I explain exactly why Trump is banning foreign students from Harvard.

00:00:16.000 I think it's pretty good stuff.

00:00:17.000 Then we talk a little Maha before Mike Benz joins us, the great Mike Benz.

00:00:21.000 First, he explains why Harvard is actually undermining our national security.

00:00:28.000 And then he tells me the one big thing Republicans must cut in the big, beautiful bill.

00:00:34.000 Buckle up, everybody, because here we go.

00:00:37.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:39.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:00:41.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:44.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:46.000 Thank you.

00:00:48.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:49.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:50.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:52.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:58.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:07.000 That's why we are here.

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00:01:35.000 Morning, everyone.

00:01:35.000 Welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:37.000 My name is Alexander Marlowe, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News, in for my friend Charlie.

00:01:41.000 Many of you who don't know our history together, Charlie was just a young whippersnapper in high school.

00:01:46.000 He emailed us at Breitbart News an idea for a story, and we gave him the revolutionary idea of actually writing it up himself.

00:01:54.000 He got on Fox& Friends, he was all over the media, and he got the bug.

00:01:58.000 He got the bug to become a part of this movement, and he has been one of our leaders ever since.

00:02:02.000 It's been an amazing ride, and Charlie and I have been...

00:02:08.000 And I'm always grateful when he gives me the opportunity to fill in, particularly when it's a busy news day.

00:02:13.000 And there is a ton to get to, but I want to start with the big one.

00:02:15.000 The big one is Harvard.

00:02:18.000 Kristi Noem, the Department of Homeland Security, Donald Trump's administration, blocking Harvard from enrolling foreign students.

00:02:24.000 Harvard has already started informing students that you are going to have to find a new school.

00:02:29.000 We've got some audio of the Department of Homeland Security secretary.

00:02:33.000 Let's play cut 392, please.

00:02:36.000 You say it is a privilege, not a right, for American schools to be able to host foreigners on their campus.

00:02:43.000 Yes, that's exactly right, and this program has been in place for a very long time.

00:02:47.000 These policies have been in place for a long time, and Harvard brought these consequences upon themselves.

00:02:52.000 They have promoted and allowed violent activity on campus.

00:02:56.000 They have allowed anti-Semitism participation with CCP and Chinese infiltration and influence on their campus, and they haven't protected their students.

00:03:08.000 This is, of course, 100% accurate.

00:03:11.000 We know this about Harvard, that they are the least free speech campus, according to FIRE, throughout the United States of America.

00:03:18.000 They discriminate against Asians and Jews, among others.

00:03:22.000 They allow for hate speech on campus routinely.

00:03:25.000 And which, again, it's the sort of thing, we're free speech side on the right, but the left told us you're not allowed to do these things.

00:03:30.000 And they work extensively with China, including trying to cut corners in order to protect people within the CCP.

00:03:37.000 And what Trump has done here, which is really interesting.

00:03:39.000 He's called out China specifically.

00:03:41.000 The Chinese government.

00:03:42.000 At Breitbart News, we always wake up every morning and we read all the Chinese state media.

00:03:46.000 It's the first thing we do.

00:03:47.000 We don't go straight to the New York Times at Breitbart.

00:03:49.000 We go straight to the source.

00:03:50.000 We go straight to the Chinese state media.

00:03:51.000 They're furious about this.

00:03:52.000 They're already complaining about it, and that's a good thing.

00:03:55.000 We get a little more from the Homeland Security Secretary.

00:03:57.000 Let's play Cut 393.

00:03:59.000 Harvard's freshman class this year are foreign.

00:04:03.000 They're foreigners here on student visas. 1.00

00:04:07.000 What happens?

00:04:08.000 Where do they go now?

00:04:09.000 What do they do?

00:04:09.000 So 27% of their students are foreign students and they will have to find some other university to go to and hopefully they find one that cares about them and provides a safe environment.

00:04:21.000 They're going to have to find a new place to go.

00:04:21.000 Exactly.

00:04:23.000 And because this is a national security issue and the first question that comes to mind, And the bottom line is he is.

00:04:32.000 It is allowed.

00:04:33.000 The president has broad control over immigration status.

00:04:36.000 The executive branch does.

00:04:38.000 It's virtually unchallenged authority when it comes to visas.

00:04:41.000 So all it takes is for Secretary of State Marco Rubio to say we're canceling them, and that's it.

00:04:46.000 But what Trump is announcing they're going to do is you cannot stay here.

00:04:49.000 And this is all about cracking down on Trump.

00:04:59.000 And I want to bring this point up because this is so emphatic.

00:05:01.000 I think so much of what Trump has done in the beginning of his administration has been about targeting China, be it the tariffs, be it trying to broker peace and new deals around the world, being trying to reshore American manufacturing.

00:05:13.000 A lot of this has to do with countering China.

00:05:16.000 Take Greenland.

00:05:16.000 Charlie went over to Greenland.

00:05:18.000 Why do we want Greenland?

00:05:19.000 Because China is encroaching into the Arctic, and we want to be able to counter them with a bigger military presence and defense security presence. 0.98

00:05:25.000 He's actually called it out in this instance.

00:05:32.000 You might not know this, but Xi Jinping's daughter went to Harvard.

00:05:35.000 She went about 10 years ago, and Harvard protected her by allowing her to attend with a pseudonym.

00:05:41.000 So she was getting the Harvard education that we created, an American institution, quintessential, and it was hidden from the public, that the leader of our biggest geopolitical rivals was getting educated there.

00:05:52.000 That is outrageous in and of itself, and yet it was never discussed.

00:05:56.000 It's completely new to most people today.

00:05:58.000 Maybe you're hearing it on this show for the first time.

00:06:00.000 Maybe you're hearing it on another show that you like.

00:06:02.000 But today is the day where a lot of people are going to realize, hey, wait a minute.

00:06:05.000 Why are we Americans with $9 billion in taxpayer funds headed towards Harvard this year?

00:06:10.000 Why are we supporting this type of behavior?

00:06:13.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:06:13.000 You're not supposed to be a foreign student who's a foreign adversary to come to America, learn how we do things, and be able to return to your country to be able to take advantage of our That's exactly what Harvard's been a part of for a long time, but not always.

00:06:34.000 And this is an incredibly important point.

00:06:35.000 Harvard was not always like this.

00:06:37.000 Harvard was created specifically by Americans because we did not want to have the next generations of elite. 1.00

00:06:44.000 Only come from Oxford and Cambridge.

00:06:46.000 This is a crucial point, and the media does not get this.

00:06:49.000 This is Jeffrey Toobin on CNN with Anderson Cooper.

00:06:52.000 Play Cut 398, guys.

00:06:54.000 Why don't we go to some other school where there's less controversy or go to another country?

00:07:02.000 I mean, that's what's really going on here.

00:07:03.000 It's going on with tourists.

00:07:04.000 It's going on with students.

00:07:07.000 They are worried about how foreigners are treated in the United States.

00:07:11.000 So why not go to college at Oxford instead of Harvard?

00:07:15.000 And that's, you know, that's a big loss to this country.

00:07:17.000 Yeah, this is the exact idea.

00:07:22.000 This is the opposite of what's going on.

00:07:24.000 What's going on is that Harvard was created to educate Americans to compete with the rest of the world.

00:07:30.000 It was not created to educate foreigners to go back to their countries and beat America.

00:07:35.000 How do we get this way?

00:07:36.000 It's wokeness.

00:07:37.000 It's leftism.

00:07:38.000 It's money.

00:07:39.000 It's following the money.

00:07:40.000 What's gone on here is that not all Americans can afford Harvard.

00:07:44.000 How much does Harvard cost, guys?

00:07:45.000 I don't even know.

00:07:45.000 It's going to be close to $100,000 a year at this point.

00:07:47.000 Not all Americans can afford that stuff.

00:07:49.000 Do you know who can pay?

00:07:52.000 Oligarchs, elites, aristocrats from around the world.

00:07:54.000 They come in.

00:07:55.000 They don't even just pay full freight tuition.

00:07:57.000 They'll come in and they'll make donations.

00:07:59.000 And they will come in specifically to get those dollars.

00:08:01.000 I know this.

00:08:02.000 I have inside sources inside of the Harvard fundraising apparatus.

00:08:06.000 And they specifically court foreign donors to try to get money.

00:08:10.000 If you are an American student and you're trying to compete, just note that you have to be better than foreigners who want to come in and get those visas from Harvard to make money. 0.99

00:08:20.000 Of course this is outrageous and it's never discussed and it takes a bold leader like Donald Trump to finally say, we're no longer going to do this.

00:08:27.000 Harvard was, it was fractionally.

00:08:30.000 I think it was about 20% foreign students.

00:08:33.000 I think it was about 20 years ago, the last math I did.

00:08:35.000 Now we're talking 7,000 international students at Harvard.

00:08:39.000 It's all ridiculous.

00:08:40.000 I'm not saying we don't want to get a handful of people.

00:08:43.000 We don't want that option of the best and the brightest of people who intend to stay in America, to become an elite in America, and to help America.

00:08:51.000 But that's not what we're seeing here.

00:08:52.000 We're seeing literally Xi Jinping's daughter coming in.

00:08:55.000 But it gets even better than that.

00:08:57.000 It gets even better than that.

00:08:58.000 Another thing that Trump is doing is he's continuing to take the lead, take the wood to Democrats.

00:09:03.000 Who is the chair of Harvard's board?

00:09:06.000 Who's the head of their board?

00:09:07.000 You guys know this?

00:09:08.000 Penny Pritzker, an Obama administration alum and the sister of J.B. Pritzker, who is going to run for president in 2028.

00:09:15.000 These are the wokest of the woke.

00:09:17.000 And so this is the Obama apparatus that Trump is running into right now.

00:09:21.000 He's doing this on purpose.

00:09:22.000 The Harvard board led by an Obama appointee.

00:09:25.000 And sister of the governor of Illinois who's going to run for president, who has stuck it out even through all the Claudine Gay stuff where she was busted plagiarizing.

00:09:32.000 They put a total fraud as president.

00:09:35.000 Pritzker is a Nepo baby. 1.00

00:09:37.000 She inherited all of her money and power because her family is heir to the Hyatt fortune. 0.86

00:09:40.000 That's how she got powerful.

00:09:42.000 That's why she's in charge of the Harvard board. 1.00

00:09:44.000 And the Harvard board, think of it as a part of the Democrat Party apparatus.

00:09:49.000 We're taking on China. 0.81

00:09:50.000 We're taking on the Democrat apparatus.

00:09:51.000 We are resetting things in a meaningful way.

00:09:54.000 There is no reason why you, the taxpayers, should be funding Harvard to the tune of $9 billion, especially with their $50 billion endowment, and especially when they don't go by basic American rights.

00:10:05.000 We can no longer keep giving our intellectual property to the Chinese for whatever pittance it costs their oligarchs to pay the Harvard board to get their kids in. 1.00

00:10:15.000 This is a brilliant idea from President Trump.

00:10:17.000 And legally speaking, I think these challenges are going to absolutely fail.

00:10:22.000 Trump is going to win this one.

00:10:23.000 And the Democrats, once again, are going to be supporting a wildly unpopular idea.

00:10:28.000 The American people want Harvard crackdown upon.

00:10:31.000 We have disdain for our elites right now.

00:10:33.000 Trump understands that, and he's going for it.

00:10:43.000 The Chinese have been buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of U.S. farmland. 0.99

00:10:46.000 They've also taken control over critical supply chains, things like fertilizer, animal feed, and farming equipment.

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00:11:39.000 Really happy to be in here for Charlie.

00:11:41.000 I specifically asked the guys to pull me a great clip of Charlie at Cambridge.

00:11:45.000 I love when Charlie goes to these campuses and going to Cambridge, where I actually did a summer school in Cambridge when I was 15 or so, and it was very influential on me.

00:11:53.000 And Charlie showed up, and let's see how it went.

00:11:56.000 Can we play cut 312, guys?

00:11:59.000 So you've condemned the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as a huge mistake.

00:12:04.000 Correct.

00:12:05.000 Why do you believe it was a mistake to pass anti-discrimination legislation, and what do you think would be better policy for being treated fairly unequally, which you see as an American principle?

00:12:16.000 Nothing against the intent, but it was too broadly written, and it played into something called disparate impact.

00:12:20.000 Disparate impact was woven within the Civil Rights Act, and disparate impact basically says if two racial groups have different outcomes, the answer must be racism.

00:12:29.000 It does not allow any legal nuance.

00:12:31.000 So there are four components to, quote unquote, the anti-racist regime of America.

00:12:35.000 I don't pretend to know what goes on in this country.

00:12:37.000 I could just talk about America.

00:12:38.000 I'm sure that's fine.

00:12:39.000 And it's four components.

00:12:40.000 Affirmative action, critical race theory, DEI, and disparate impact.

00:12:44.000 Those are kind of the four components.

00:12:45.000 All of them have their subsection.

00:12:47.000 The Civil Rights Act led the way to affirmative action, which is weaponized, quote unquote, reverse racism against Asian and white people.

00:12:53.000 And the Civil Rights Act also blazed the trail for disparate impact as a legal theory.

00:12:59.000 I'm saying that if black Americans are doing worse in a group, it might not be because of marital differences or cultural differences or single motherhood issues.

00:13:06.000 It must be racism.

00:13:07.000 And so because of that, the Civil Rights Act was too broadly written.

00:13:10.000 So the intent, it should have been a single-page or a two-page bill to say that you cannot discriminate against based on the color of somebody's skin, period, end of story.

00:13:19.000 Instead, we get a multiple hundred-page bill with lots of chapters and lots of lesser-known amendments that created basically a permanent anti-racist bureaucracy within our federal government to go find racism where it doesn't exist and create it in new places where it otherwise did not exist.

00:13:33.000 It's fantastic.

00:13:34.000 And I love how Charlie always got an explanation.

00:13:36.000 They think just bringing something up that you said is a dunk.

00:13:39.000 He's like, no, I've thought about this really hard, and you haven't.

00:13:42.000 So you probably should have been more prepared when you ask.

00:13:44.000 And it's great.

00:13:45.000 It's a great explanation.

00:13:46.000 And it's also really interesting to see right now in Trump's America how the whole concept of intersectionality is going to die.

00:13:53.000 The various interest groups are not in line anymore.

00:14:09.000 We're bringing all these sorts of people in, and this could be the end of intersectionality as we know it.

00:14:13.000 It could be the beginning of the end because when these groups don't all work as a block, Democrats can't move them.

00:14:18.000 They can't move individuals because their ideas aren't compelling enough.

00:14:21.000 They only move blocks of voters.

00:14:23.000 So if we can somehow chisel off a few of those blocks, which is what we're doing, then I feel like the future is going to be very bright.

00:14:29.000 It's going to have a lot of conservatism in it.

00:14:31.000 Great stuff from Charlie.

00:14:32.000 Great arguments as usual.

00:14:50.000 and they really are alarming.

00:14:52.000 It's unbelievable, terrible.

00:14:54.000 More than 40% of American children now have at least one chronic health condition.

00:14:59.000 Since the 1970, rates of childhood cancer have soared, in many cases, by nearly 50%.

00:15:06.000 50%.

00:15:08.000 Well, in the 1960s, less than 5% of the children were obese.

00:15:13.000 Now, over 20% are obese.

00:15:15.000 Just a few decades ago, 1 in 10,000 children had autism.

00:15:20.000 Today, it's 1 in 31. It is a striking thing in this country how we've gotten so much less healthy.

00:15:28.000 We've gotten less healthy mentally.

00:15:30.000 We've gotten less healthy.

00:15:32.000 We've got less healthy spiritually.

00:15:34.000 And there are very simple, fundamental things that we can do.

00:15:37.000 The first thing is that science should be evidence-based.

00:15:39.000 We should use a scientific method.

00:15:40.000 We should test hypotheses, and we should go from there.

00:15:43.000 We don't have to assume certain sciences are settled, like, for example, men in women's sports.

00:15:49.000 That's another one of those ideas that Trump has backed Democrats into supporting, which is just, it's so stupid, and history will all agree that it was stupid over time, but he's tricked all these Democrats to going all in on it.

00:16:00.000 We need to move around more.

00:16:01.000 We need to start having foods with fresher ingredients, with fewer ingredients, with less processed food, and we need to start making it a religious endeavor to exercise, to move around, and to not take some of these social toxins that have replaced a lot of what used to be family time, spiritual time, exercise time, is now sitting on our phone and getting social contagion, consuming it nonstop.

00:16:24.000 We're going to start addressing this stuff with the Maha movement.

00:16:27.000 And I'll tell you, as someone who was so excited about What I love about this guy is that he challenges everything that the status quo, the people who've been in power for so long and have let us down, everything that they believe is a fundamental.

00:16:42.000 He wants to question it, and he wants to bring that to a—you've got to back it up with evidence, or we're going a different direction.

00:16:49.000 That's what Trump's all about, shaking things up in that way, and that's why I'm so excited about the Maha movement in particular. 0.98

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00:17:57.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, fan favorite here.

00:17:59.000 Mike Benz is here from the Foundation for Freedom Online and probably one of the most prolific online journalists working today in new media.

00:18:08.000 Mike, I got a couple things I want to get to with you, but the first one is I just want to watch you cook Harvard for a little bit.

00:18:14.000 Go for it.

00:18:16.000 Well, Harvard is...

00:18:20.000 I always say this.

00:18:21.000 Harvard, everyone thinks of it as a university.

00:18:24.000 It has very little to do with the university.

00:18:26.000 Structurally, it's a corporation.

00:18:28.000 The Harvard Corporation, which is a 12-person board, runs the Harvard University.

00:18:34.000 The Harvard Corporation now is run by Penny Pritzker.

00:18:37.000 It's the Pritzker family who brought the Barack Obama into political relevance in Chicago.

00:18:45.000 Obviously, J.B. Pritzker is the governor of Illinois to this day.

00:18:49.000 Penny Pritzker was the commerce secretary for the Obama administration.

00:18:55.000 She was the special envoy for the reconstruction of Ukraine.

00:18:59.000 She's worth about $4 billion. 0.98

00:19:00.000 She was the chair of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, which is one of the oldest think tanks in the country and was a frequent cover for CIA funding and CIA outreach work during the Cold War.

00:19:17.000 Documents as early as 1951 show the Central Intelligence Agency planning things in tandem with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

00:19:27.000 In fact, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace was run from 2014 to 2021 by Bill Burns.

00:19:33.000 And Bill Burns only left the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, which had been previously chaired by Penny Pritzker, to run the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:19:40.000 And the Harvard Endowment, the $53 billion Harvard Endowment invests in.

00:20:08.000 So one of the most shocking examples that has been publicly declassified because of the U.S. government role in it and the scandals that resulted was how Harvard made billions of dollars looting the economy of Russia during what should have been the period of peace that would have unified the U.S. with Eurasia diplomatically when all of the trillions of state-held assets Of the entire Soviet empire

00:20:38.000 converted to capitalism and went through shock therapy.

00:20:42.000 Harvard teamed up with the U.S. government.

00:20:45.000 USAID at that time paid half a billion dollars to Harvard's USAID.

00:20:52.000 It was called the Harvard Institute for International Development.

00:20:55.000 And using Harvard economists and Harvard's international relations specialists and Harvard's practitioners of statecraft, Under effectively academic cover, the U.S. State Department and USAID worked with Russian oligarchs in control of the oil and gas sector, in control of the steel sector, in control of all the different sectors that previously held that wealth publicly.

00:21:23.000 They worked directly with Harvard and then gave the Harvard Endowment together with George Soros' Quantum Fund, because Soros and Harvard worked together.

00:21:34.000 Special private inside access to bid on all those assets.

00:21:38.000 So they got to buy up.

00:21:40.000 They got a first bite at the apple to buy up on the cheap all of these new assets that were previously held publicly for foreign populations.

00:21:49.000 They did the same thing all over Central and Eastern Europe.

00:21:52.000 And guess what?

00:21:53.000 that was the same policy that the CIA and the State Department had to take this wealth effectively and that would protect And you can see the logic of it.

00:22:10.000 But the fact is, is this revolving door has put Harvard completely at odds with the Trump administration's foreign policy, their foreign policy on Russia, their foreign policy on Ukraine, their foreign policy on liberal interventionism writ large.

00:22:28.000 And so you have this kind of economic hitman role that Harvard has played, and every system in that supports it.

00:22:34.000 The Belfer Center, for example, at Harvard, which hosts not just Samantha Power, she's there now, the USAID administrator who completely weaponized every aspect of that agency against half of the U.S. population through funding censorship initiatives, through funding initiatives that targeted Breitbart.

00:22:58.000 USAID went after the advertisers and had whole primaries on it.

00:23:01.000 The Belfer Center was deeply involved with that inside of Harvard as well, where Samantha Power now is.

00:23:08.000 The Belfer Center was actually teamed up with the Department of Homeland Security.

00:23:12.000 They had a formal partnership with the Department of Homeland Security.

00:23:15.000 The Belfer Center actually hosted DHS CISA events.

00:23:20.000 To censor the internet, Harvard coached the Department of Homeland Security ahead of the 2020 election, where they targeted 20 million Trump tweets and Trump supporter tweets as mis- and disinformation, and then worked to get a huge proportion of them censored at the narrative level.

00:23:38.000 The Belfer Center, and I've all this clipped, it's all on my X account if you just type in Belfer Center as a phrase, they coached them about how to set up, quote, incident response teams, and they actually put Breitbart In the repeat misinformation spreaders and went after domestic media voices through the Department of Homeland Security set up to stop another 9-11.

00:24:03.000 But that was done because the U.S. government is banned by the First Amendment from doing it.

00:24:08.000 So they reach into their partner network and they reached into Harvard to do that.

00:24:12.000 And Harvard also specializes in organizing riots.

00:24:16.000 And street protest movements, they call this non-violent action, or the term folks may have heard a lot, the term color revolution, named after things like the velvet revolution, the orange revolution, the green revolution, these sorts of things.

00:24:33.000 The end stage of that is a street protest that removes the government from power by destabilizing it and making the police and law enforcement and military helpless.

00:24:45.000 Against the throngs of hordes in the streets.

00:24:47.000 And Harvard has an entire center on nonviolent action in order to organize those things.

00:24:53.000 Well, what is Erica Chenoweth, for example, and Maria Stefan from the Belfer Center now doing now?

00:24:58.000 They're organizing the Tesla takedown protests, the street protests that effectively wedged Elon Musk, I think in certain respects, off of aspects of the White House by effectively...

00:25:22.000 And so this is the sort of stuff that the Belfer Center was doing in Yugoslavia and in Ukraine ahead of the overthrow of Slobodan Milosevic and the Maidan revolution.

00:25:35.000 And so we funded this network.

00:25:38.000 We've trained this network with a very special set of dark arts skills.

00:25:42.000 And they are now using it against our own people and our own government, getting $9 billion worth of federal funding in the process.

00:25:51.000 Mike, this is essentially the question I want to ask.

00:25:53.000 The history of Harvard is that it was founded by Americans for Americans to educate Americans so we would compete with and eventually surpass the elite universities overseas.

00:26:03.000 Now, this is something that is used to empower foreign governments to give our intellectual know-how to foreign leaders to clandestinely – All of this stuff feels fundamentally against the original vision for Harvard and certainly against anything we would want to spend $9 billion on.

00:26:29.000 Where is the disconnect here between the Democrats and anyone who is defending this behavior and where we're at here in Trump's America?

00:26:36.000 Well, the issue is that because of the supply chains, because of the manufacturing and labor, Harvard began to bet on China.

00:27:04.000 Harvard began to bet on a world order.

00:27:08.000 That did not put the United States first.

00:27:11.000 And so I think you see this reflected in much of the Democrat Party.

00:27:15.000 You had the Biden first family directly profiting off of deals with China.

00:27:19.000 Hunter Biden famously made $10 billion through CEFC China Energy.

00:27:24.000 Hunter Biden was brokering the sales of LNG ports in Louisiana to China.

00:27:30.000 You have huge portions of the diplomatic class.

00:27:36.000 You have huge portions of the California power base.

00:27:40.000 Nancy Pelosi and Gavin Newsom, as China effectively offers California a lifeline and is doing development deals.

00:27:49.000 And so you have this skating towards where the puck is going.

00:27:54.000 And the problem is, is that puts the United States in a death spiral because They're not actually advancing U.S. interests as they do it.

00:28:03.000 And part of that is I think the U.S. State Department, as well as the Central Intelligence Agency and aspects of our Defense Department, have moved into this as well as the contractors have seen the markets in China and have seen the markets in other hostile foreign nation states.

00:28:21.000 I think this is a lot of what was behind the Iran deal, this move to open up the oil and gas.

00:28:26.000 And Trump put a ban on that during his administration.

00:28:31.000 But then two months into the Biden administration, China bought, in March 2021, China signed a $400 billion deal with Iran to buy their oil and gas.

00:28:40.000 I think this is also what's giving rise in part to some aspects of the Israel-Palestine conflict on college campuses, is that Bill Burns, the CIA director for Joe Biden, personally negotiated the Iran deal.

00:28:55.000 And the whole network is involved in that.

00:28:59.000 The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

00:29:01.000 Mike, this is extraordinary.

00:29:04.000 Hold that thought.

00:29:05.000 I want to cut in with some breaking news.

00:29:07.000 Federal judges blocked the Trump administration from revoking Harvard's ability to enroll foreign students.

00:29:12.000 This is a district judge, Allison D. Burroughs.

00:29:14.000 I will tell you guys, I have run this case by Harvard-educated attorneys.

00:29:19.000 And they're very optimistic Trump is going to win the long game on this one, that he's righteous here.

00:29:24.000 And if Harvard challenges it, they might be able to pick off one rogue judge.

00:29:28.000 But this is looking good, so we will keep you posted on that as that develops.

00:29:32.000 So probably weeks on that.

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00:30:43.000 All right, one other thing that's huge news, it's actually a leading story at Breitbart.com as we're recording the show, is that Trump has threatened Apple with a 25% tariff on iPhones that are not made in the USA.

00:30:54.000 And I have to tell you, he doesn't surprise me too often, but I was surprised by this one.

00:30:58.000 Let me read this truth bomb from Trump.

00:31:03.000 I used to like when he called him Tim Apple.

00:31:04.000 He should bring that back.

00:31:05.000 I've long informed Tim Apple that I expect their iPhones will be sold in the United States of America, will be manufactured and built in the United States, not India or anyplace else.

00:31:15.000 If that is not the case, a tariff of at least 25% must be paid by Apple to the U.S. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

00:31:23.000 I love how he's adding now, thank you for your attention to this matter, no matter what.

00:31:27.000 It's one of the funs inside.

00:31:29.000 Things he's doing.

00:31:30.000 But I will tell you, I was a little surprised here because this is really hardcore.

00:31:34.000 When Trump pulled back from having the – when he put the Apple tariffs on or all the tariffs on China, I thought one of the things he was doing was he was going to encourage Apple to not necessarily come all the way back to the United States but at least not do business with China.

00:31:48.000 I thought that was a pretty genius move.

00:31:50.000 Apple announced a really big plan, a really big deal.

00:31:53.000 In India, which India is much more hospitable to the United States.

00:31:56.000 Obviously, I would prefer if everything is done here, all the manufacturing comes back to the United States.

00:32:00.000 But I thought that was a super intelligent and subtle way to at least get Apple to decouple from China. 0.97

00:32:06.000 And I was going to take the W on that.

00:32:09.000 Not Trump.

00:32:10.000 He's going a step further.

00:32:11.000 This is surprisingly hardcore for me.

00:32:13.000 And I thought that he would just be fine with these phones not being made in China.

00:32:19.000 No, he doesn't want them made in India.

00:32:21.000 He doesn't want them made in Brazil.

00:32:22.000 And I got to admit, I kind of like it.

00:32:24.000 And he is just putting his foot on the gas over and over again to prove that it is important for the United States to be a high-tech manufacturing hub.

00:32:32.000 People keep saying we won't do it.

00:32:34.000 He's saying we're going to do it.

00:32:36.000 Lots of people are going to say this is impossible.

00:32:38.000 We could not possibly manufacture iPhones in the United States.

00:32:41.000 Trump is saying, I'm going to prove you wrong.

00:32:43.000 And he does this so often.

00:32:45.000 And so often he's proven exactly.

00:33:02.000 Conservatives are ostensibly in charge here.

00:33:04.000 What are the cuts that you want Washington to be focused on right now as they work through Trump's big, beautiful bill?

00:33:11.000 For the life of me, I cannot understand how the National Endowment for Democracy continues to be funded by the Trump administration.

00:33:17.000 This is completely outrageous to me.

00:33:20.000 There were many gestures early in the Trump admin that funding would be cut to this organization.

00:33:25.000 I believe J.D. Vance even got in a spat with them on X saying, well, if you're doing anything useful, why is the cover photo on your X account and your webpage a picture of the Cold War?

00:33:38.000 The Cold War's been over for 30 years.

00:33:40.000 But the fact is, is the National Endowment for Democracy has taken its CIA origins.

00:33:46.000 It was literally conceived of in the office of William Casey, the CIA director, in 1983.

00:33:52.000 Its founders told the New York Times publicly that it was created because it was terrible.

00:33:57.000 The direct quote is it was terrible when groups in the 1960s That's why the endowment was created.

00:34:07.000 So both the CIA and the founders itself openly concede that its role is to be an NGO version of the Central Intelligence Agency, and that played a very useful role in the Cold War in the 1980s.

00:34:26.000 In toppling foreign governments that had autocratic features and were left-wing communist socialist in nature and helped open up them to capitalism and to Western liberalism and all the rest.

00:34:42.000 In fact, they were so effective that the New York Times in the early 1990s said that We don't even need to confirm.

00:34:50.000 I think it was Bob Gates as the CIA director because we don't need the CIA anymore.

00:34:55.000 We have the National Endowment for Democracy.

00:34:56.000 But they have pivoted completely from countering left-wing communism to countering right-wing populism.

00:35:04.000 And we have a populist president here. 0.94

00:35:07.000 The National Endowment for Democracy bragged about censoring Trump voices, had entire operations to stop Trump from the inside.

00:35:16.000 And the fact that they remain what appears to be almost fully funded is like voluntarily giving your own government cancer.

00:35:26.000 And I can't for the life of me, other than donor pressure or a need to appease Congress in order to get other parts of the bill passed, understand why this administration would continue to fund that.

00:35:38.000 Absolutely brilliant.

00:35:39.000 Mike Benz.

00:35:40.000 Check him out online at Mike Benz Cyber on Twitter, foundationforfreedomonline.com.

00:35:47.000 You guys all know Mike's stuff, and he's an invaluable part of this movement.

00:35:51.000 I absolutely love filling in for my friend Charlie Kirk.

00:35:54.000 If you've liked what you heard today, there's a lot of places to find me.

00:36:21.000 It's an incredible country, and we love fighting for it.

The Charlie Kirk Show - May 23, 2025

Following The Money... All the Way to Harvard

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