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00:01:09.000All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:12.000Andrew Colvett here, executive producer of this fine show.
00:01:15.000Joined today again by Alex Marlow, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News, also host of the Alex Marlowe Show.
00:01:46.000So this is a flashback because I've been in the captain's chair hosting for the shows I've been on for the last, I don't know, I guess, six or seven years.
00:01:54.000But before then, I had another five or six years where I was in the co-pilot seat with Steve Bannon.
00:02:01.000He called me the wingman, hosting Breitbart News Daily.
00:02:03.000And he would host, and I would maybe get in 15 to 20 good minutes of a three-hour show where I was actually a part of the show.
00:02:09.000And the rest of the time, I was just doing my job and he was just sitting.
00:02:12.000See, it comforted him to watch me type and assign stories while I was in his presence.
00:02:17.000And you get to do this all over again now, Alex, because I actually saw you do it yesterday.
00:02:21.000I was like, I know he's working on stories.
00:03:52.000Maybe she was killed by like the hatred broke her heart.
00:03:55.000Yeah, maybe it was Daniel Penny on the public transportation or something.
00:03:59.000It must have been some mean white man.
00:04:01.000You know, there's a serious way to do the segment where we just spend the next half an hour reading all the names of all the people who died in 9-11.
00:04:08.000And then Zoron thinks the real victim is a fake aunt who is really sort of a cousin.
00:04:12.000He's not even totally sure, but I didn't follow that description completely.
00:04:16.000And it just shows you the obscene nature of the dishonesty of the campaign.
00:04:40.000And goodness gracious, does he deserve it?
00:04:44.000But the truth is, is that he has been doing one thing very, very well.
00:04:48.000And it's a lesson for all of us conservatives that support Trump, that support MAGA, that support conservative populism, all of these things is that Zoron is focusing on domestic issues.
00:05:00.000The American people are sick of foreign exploits, foreign adventurism.
00:05:06.000They're sick of anything that takes their eyes off of the prize, which is domestic peace and tranquility and thriving, economic, particularly.
00:06:02.000The point is, and I know this personally as a Los Angeles native, the shock of Kieran Bash when the city burned down, that she was in Africa, and showing you that she used the LA mayorship, where she's supposed to be keeping people safe, helping people thrive in her city.
00:06:15.000That instead of doing that, she was using it to not make herself even a national figure, an international figure.
00:06:21.000She's using the mayorship of L.A. to go to Africa so she can hobnob.
00:06:25.000And Zoron's like, no, no, I'm not doing any of that.
00:06:32.000He 100% won the communication game, especially during the Democratic primary when they reasonably could have stopped him with a better candidate, with better messaging.
00:06:45.000And they essentially thought they could basically say, well, Zoran Momdani doesn't like Israel, which turns out that is not a good play with, as people are discovering, there's a lot of people who actually really dislike Israel in New York now due to well, and there's another point that we're going to get to.
00:07:02.000We also have Matt Walsh coming up in hour two, but Matt Walsh has pointed this out.
00:07:06.000Others have pointed this out that New York is essentially 40% foreign-born population.
00:07:11.000Mamdani is absolutely cooking with foreigners.
00:07:16.000If you are foreign and you have the right to vote, allegedly, in New York, you're supporting him at a clip of like 65, 70%.
00:07:24.000I mean, the guy is running away with foreign-born voters.
00:07:28.000You could now make the argument at 40% foreign-born that New York is no longer a truly American city.
00:07:49.000So, anyways, this is one interesting piece, though, that we got to keep our eyes on as we're looking at this race.
00:07:53.000Because, again, people, you have to understand in front of us, we have two lanes.
00:07:58.000You're either going to go grievance populism, which is essentially socialism into communism with Mamdani, Maggioni, or you're going to go MAGA, which is conservative national populism, which is national renewal, which is patriotism.
00:08:15.000The establishment is so screwed the pooch in this country economically, culturally, civically, that there is now at a crisis point.
00:08:23.000There is an inflection point in our country where we're either going to go this way or we're going to go this way.
00:08:26.000There's only two options: the MAGA way is the American way.
00:08:30.000You still have the rule of law, the Constitution, patriotism, the American flag.
00:08:34.000You still get, you know, apple pie and baseball.
00:08:38.000The other way is an unrecognizable hellscape, a hellhole that we probably would not be able to come back from, although I never bet against America.
00:09:25.000We are either going to deliver on the promises that Trump was elected on, or we are going to ignore them and get distracted by infighting or whatever.
00:09:33.000And Gen Z is not going to get a piece of the American dream.
00:09:39.000This is going to be from Mark Halperin.
00:09:41.000He's saying that there is at least one more, let's say, surprise coming in the Momdani race, 134.
00:09:47.000By informed Spidey Census, we're going to see at least one more piece of pretty significant opposition research dropped in this race here at the end that will potentially shake things up on one of the candidates, of course.
00:11:30.000We are being told by Mehdi Hassan that Mehdi Hassan, by the way, I don't know if we have this graphic ready, but he called Charlie a bigot and a racist who spread hate.
00:11:39.000And we're going to get into that with Matt Walsh.
00:11:40.000So I don't want to completely go into the topic, but I'm keeping my powder dry to go after Mehdi Hassan because I don't like him.
00:11:48.000Candidly, if you're going to call my friend a racist and a bigot and hurl these insults, you can go pound sand about a thousand times.
00:12:04.000But we're going to get there in just a bit.
00:12:06.000But there is this, like, it feels like a re, I don't know, emergence, an ascendancy of this online chatter about black and brown people basically saying that we are under assault and that the big MAGA people are so racist and all this stuff.
00:12:22.000And now, because of the government shutdown, they are not getting their EBT, or at least that is that is coming.
00:12:29.000And a lot of people on TikTok are sounding off about this.
00:12:33.000And there's even been a new Twitter X account created called EBT of TikTok.
00:12:41.000And they are threatening a national day, a national shoplifting day, I guess, is, you know, to make up for this coming apocalypse that's coming.
00:12:53.000So here's what's fascinating about this conversation to me because whenever we have the Democrats cause government shutdown, there's all these downstream effects, and they assume Republicans are going to get blamed for it.
00:13:03.000It's really the Democrats that are doing this.
00:13:04.000They won't fund a clean CR, so it's their fault.
00:13:07.000So if these are Democrat voters, we should remind all these voters that, hey, we're only here because of the Democrats.
00:13:13.000And if you look at this, I was pulling up the numbers before the show today, that food stamps are about 12% of U.S. grocery sales.
00:13:19.000And they're way over-indexed for sugary drinks, cereals, frozen, frozen foods, salty snacks, candy.
00:13:25.000By volume, it's way out of proportion.
00:13:27.000So it's important every so often to have a national conversation where we bring that up: that the government money is being taken, confiscated from the taxpayers at gunpoint, is being given out so that you could buy, you know, candy and salty snacks.
00:13:38.000And it's important to know that that's not a great thing.
00:13:41.000But overall, if you're the person who thinks it is a good thing, to know that the Democrats got us here.
00:13:46.000And so we can have both of those conversations simultaneously.
00:13:49.000That I do think that they should be on the Democrats and they should be the ones who should bear the brunt of any political fallout if people can't get their candy rations.
00:13:56.000I think it's as simple as this: they lost the election.
00:14:00.000Now they are feeling the heat from their left flank.
00:14:03.000And so now the establishment leadership Democrats are fighting.
00:14:07.000They're trying to prove to their base, their AOC wing of the party, that they are fighting their Mamdani wing of the party.
00:14:12.000And so they're just going to drag the country through this shutdown because they hate the fact that they lost an election.
00:14:19.000And by the way, they passed a clean CR earlier.
00:14:21.000And it all goes down to this ACA, this Obama subsidies.
00:14:24.000You know, it's like their minds are blown that there is a health care program in policy in this country where a lot of people get health care that can't afford it.
00:14:34.000So other people have to subsidize it, which costs a lot of money because healthcare is expensive.
00:14:38.000And they also are making certain carve-outs for refugees or temporary asylum seekers or protected status, all of these things.
00:14:49.000And Republicans said, hey, it's going to cost a lot of money.
00:14:52.000We're not going to extend these subsidies forever.
00:14:55.000And so the bill is coming due and the Democrats are freaking out and they're crying victim.
00:15:00.000But here's the deal: the snap benefits are hilarious because now TikTok is just full of a bunch of people that are just openly admitting that they're going to now steal.
00:15:53.000So, Blake, this feels like we got 45 seconds here, but this feels like now we're just at the phase where we're openly admitting shopping.
00:16:01.000Why can't we just say, like, okay, so they get a gigantic federal program to give them free money in return for doing nothing, and they're going to extort you and say, if we don't give us more free stuff in return for doing nothing, for being fat lumps of crap, we're going to go and steal a bunch from stores, which we already essentially don't punish because, God forbid, we punish people who commit crimes and break laws.
00:16:22.000And as a result, you have countless cities in the U.S. have the toothpaste and the deodorant behind a freaking locked door because otherwise people steal them all of the time.
00:16:31.000And not to mention how many foreigners, even illegal aliens, getting snap benefits and they're demanding that we keep it up or we're going to rip off the stores.
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00:17:54.000So the whole show is important, but please focus on this.
00:17:58.000We have Rich Barris, Big Data Poll, the People's Pundit on X. Rich, you're joining us now because I called you literally on the way to the studio and I was like, brother, this is the most critical insight that I have seen basically since the election.
00:18:14.000You did a great interview with Steve Bannon in a war room this morning.
00:18:30.000I'll put them up when you call for them.
00:18:32.000Yeah, Andrew, thanks as always for having me on.
00:18:36.000Look, the Republican Party has got to snap out of what they're in right now.
00:18:40.000And, you know, I've learned in the last couple of weeks that the left is not the only one who can be in a bubble.
00:18:46.000And actually, it's more than a couple of weeks.
00:18:48.000But, you know, if you talk to people in and around Congress, you know, they think everything's swimming and magical, and even people in the administration.
00:18:56.000The fact of the matter is, the voter does not.
00:19:00.000So they are giving Trump, and your opening was fire because they're giving Trump a lot of grace.
00:19:06.000They would never give another Republican president because he's Donald Trump and he's different.
00:19:11.000And that's something Republicans are just going to have to grapple with.
00:19:14.000You're just not going to be able to mirror that kind of love that he has from these voters.
00:19:18.000So they're giving them a lot of grace, but they are screaming at this point that Trump was not elected to focus all over the world like this.
00:19:25.000And a lot of people, there are different elements in administration.
00:19:30.000They're always trying to fight for the presidency years.
00:19:32.000The voter wants the administration to refocus on domestic issues.
00:19:36.000And it's very important that people understand that there is, and yeah, I mean, if you put the graphic up, you're going to see it's a majority.
00:19:42.000It's 52% roughly who say the Trump administration is focusing too much on foreign affairs and wants them to Recommit to the domestic agenda.
00:19:54.000So that purple on the, I guess, the right side of your screen, right, Rich, that's the people that say the Trump administration is focusing too much on foreign policy.
00:20:05.000And it's worse when you look inside of who is saying this, Andrew, because of course you're going to get some Democrats who are just going to try to pick whatever they think will make Trump look the worst in the poll, right?
00:20:18.000If you look at the independents specifically, who we call them MAGA independents, they only vote for Donald Trump.
00:20:23.000Their vote history is basically 24, maybe 20, 24, 2016, right?
00:20:29.000And then they disappear from elections every other time when Donald Trump is not on the ballot.
00:20:35.000They did not vote for Trump again for foreign entanglements and all of this focus.
00:20:40.000And I understand, you know, you and I, we do this for a living.
00:20:43.000So we understand the president's job a lot has to deal with foreign policy.
00:20:47.000But there is a point in any administration where you can get, I mean, bifurcated is a nicer word, but you could just flatly get distracted with foreign affairs and forget that the country has much more interest in solving domestic issues.
00:21:02.000No matter how important, you know, the peace deal in the Middle East is, right?
00:21:06.000Or whatever's going on with Israel or how important the Russo-Ukrainian war is in eastern Ukraine, which, by the way, he told them he would end in 48 hours.
00:21:15.000No matter how important any of that stuff is, you're never going to convince the voter that it's more important than their ability to buy eggs at the grocery store.
00:21:27.000So Momdani has a bunch of fairy tales that he's pitching out to the New York voter voting electorate, which, by the way, is like 40% foreign-born.
00:21:35.000So they just want free stuff off the American taxpayers' back.
00:22:18.000And the reason we do this instead of just giving what most pollsters do, a multiple choice response, they'll have to pick their number one and that's it.
00:22:24.000Maybe the economy or inflation comes in at like 25%.
00:22:30.000That doesn't give you as much insight as a ranked distribution does.
00:22:34.000So what we're telling them to do is rank it, like you said, from most to least important, one through 10.
00:22:40.000And it gives us a better understanding of three issues, four issues, five issues that are driving people's, what, you know, driving people's decision in who they're going to vote for, what they're prioritizing.
00:22:52.000This graph, this graph is so, is, is like freaking everything.
00:23:10.000Number five, immigration, border, and security.
00:23:12.000By the way, just one small pet peeve that I have with immigration and border security is that when Joe Biden was president, it was a complete chaos at the border.
00:23:25.000Millions of people, these videos were going everywhere, and that was ranking almost as the top issue.
00:23:29.000As soon as President Trump fixes it, people forget about it and falls off the cliff.
00:23:42.000He got zero credit when it came to 2020 for that because he'd largely taken care of it.
00:23:47.000It was still an issue more so than it is now.
00:23:49.000But the fact that he has been so it has been such a decisive and historic achievement on the border, our attention spans are so short that it goes away.
00:24:56.000He is now at Biden level approval when it comes to do you approve or disapprove of how he's doing his job in president with each of the following issues.
00:25:06.000And we ask about inflation and cost of living.
00:25:12.000And yet he's still, you know, he's still only negative a few points because I think people are remembering, look, he didn't get that great of a situation.
00:25:39.000People, especially these MAGA only or Trump or bust voters, we'll call them sometimes.
00:25:45.000They believe that Donald Trump being reelected is literally this country's last chance before we go past the point of no return.
00:25:54.000So we pass the event horizon with the debt or we pass the event horizon with immigration or we pass the event horizon, which is so many other problems that we have in this society.
00:27:04.000As I tried, I think, to explain is that some of this, I think a lot of this is just about optics, right?
00:27:12.000So, and if you look at the White House schedule, since, I mean, you can go back to that conflict, that military exercise, go and look at the White House schedule, Andrew, and you'll see that they're clearly prioritizing foreign over domestic.
00:27:50.000I think they need, I think Trump is the expert of this.
00:27:53.000He could pivot quickly if this got through his head, because what you then start doing is you start commissioning like, you know, obviously it would be the Hoover Dam, but something like that, some big, huge domestic, you know, big, what do they call it?
00:28:08.000The big hairy bold ideas or whatever, like these, these big, audacious ideas that only Trump could inspire people to believe was possible.
00:28:16.000Big visual landmark achievements that are here that are monuments that work, that help make people's lives better.
00:28:22.000We got to come up with stuff like this to re-inspire the population.
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00:32:34.000So one of the suggestions from Terry is: could we deploy JD Vance domestically to sort of be that domestic messenger or does it have to come from Trump?
00:34:08.000This is super important because it's not just a media story.
00:34:10.000I think largely this is a media story, but this is an important point Rich is making because you can definitely feel it that the people still feel like we're getting screwed, squeeze the grocery store too much.
00:34:19.000It's a really tough battle, and it's one that does need a lot more of a priority because Americans, it doesn't matter who's president.
00:34:25.000If you feel the pains of the grocery store, you're not going to be happy with your life.
00:34:30.000I guess, I guess, when I think of Trump's approval ratings, like we're talking about whether he needs to be the messenger.
00:34:37.000Has Trump ever really been a strong messenger outside of his base?
00:34:40.000I feel like Trump has always been strongest as president, I feel, when the story is least about him.
00:34:46.000And I feel like his personal disposition is such that he doesn't ever like being out of the spotlight yet.
00:34:52.000I think his administration has often come off the strongest when the story is not, you know, what Trump said on truth, what Trump said on X, what the latest thing Trump did that is causing controversy.
00:35:02.000A lot of people just really like his core policies, whether it's on trade or on international affairs.
00:35:08.000And when those are the story and he's actually a bit in the background, I think he's at a strong.
00:35:12.000Well, I actually do agree with that just from a messaging standpoint, Trump.
00:35:15.000But Trump does, you know, it's the Trump show.
00:35:30.000Yeah, I actually, I mean, people who dislike Trump are going to bring up stuff like the tariffs and their impact on inflation without even knowing or understanding that what was just said before is actually true, that inflation has cooled and that the big, you know, chicken little, the sky is falling, you know, predictions over the impact tariffs would have on it.