The Charlie Kirk Show - Food Stamp Stoppage + Trump’s Polling Vulnerability?

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:12.000 Andrew Colvett here, executive producer of this fine show.

00:01:15.000 Joined today again by Alex Marlow, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News, also host of the Alex Marlowe Show.

00:01:22.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:01:22.000 I really enjoy being here.

00:01:24.000 This is a very high, high-frequency, fast-paced working environment that I crave.

00:01:29.000 It is.

00:01:30.000 And you have a high-paced, fast-frequency or whatever, high-frequency, fast-paced?

00:01:36.000 Yeah.

00:01:37.000 Whatever the order is, job as well.

00:01:39.000 I mean, Alex is here, you know, doing stories for Breitbart literally while we're doing this show.

00:01:45.000 But it's good show prep.

00:01:46.000 So this is a flashback because I've been in the captain's chair hosting for the shows I've been on for the last, I don't know, I guess, six or seven years.

00:01:54.000 But before then, I had another five or six years where I was in the co-pilot seat with Steve Bannon.

00:02:01.000 He called me the wingman, hosting Breitbart News Daily.

00:02:03.000 And he would host, and I would maybe get in 15 to 20 good minutes of a three-hour show where I was actually a part of the show.

00:02:09.000 And the rest of the time, I was just doing my job and he was just sitting.

00:02:12.000 See, it comforted him to watch me type and assign stories while I was in his presence.

00:02:17.000 And you get to do this all over again now, Alex, because I actually saw you do it yesterday.

00:02:21.000 I was like, I know he's working on stories.

00:02:22.000 It's a good show prep, though.

00:02:24.000 And of course, Blake Neff, our not-so-secret weapon here.

00:02:27.000 So here's what's funny. 0.92

00:02:28.000 I have to give Blake a little shout out yesterday because you predicted Zoron's Mamdani's, his response to this. 0.87

00:02:35.000 My aunt faced all of this. 0.95

00:02:38.000 Wearing a hijab made Zorhan Mamdani's aunt feel uncomfortable on the subway. 0.99

00:02:44.000 It was basically the worst atrocity in American history.

00:02:48.000 It was worse than slavery.

00:02:50.000 Worse than the almost 3,000 people that lost their lives on 9-11.

00:02:55.000 The worst atrocity.

00:02:56.000 She got the ick while on the subway.

00:02:58.000 I got to tell you guys, I had a sort of a nightmare last night.

00:03:02.000 I was in a bus and I was about to get hit by a giant wave.

00:03:06.000 This is probably something someone can psychoanalyze this.

00:03:09.000 My whole family was in the car, all my children.

00:03:11.000 And then I woke up and I thought, wow, I'm just like Zoron Momdani's aunt. 0.99

00:03:17.000 In the butt. 0.98

00:03:18.000 Like, that was the real thing. 0.99

00:03:20.000 You were taking public transportation and you, yeah, you should run for mayor.

00:03:24.000 Yeah.

00:03:25.000 I've got my whole narrative now.

00:03:26.000 So, so that, so Zoron is now saying, wait, wait, wait.

00:03:30.000 It wasn't my aunt.

00:03:32.000 It was actually just a distant cousin, but like, the point still stands.

00:03:36.000 Play cut 145.

00:03:37.000 I was speaking about my aunt.

00:03:39.000 I was speaking about Xana Fuin, my father's cousin, who sadly passed away a few years ago.

00:03:48.000 Oh, so he's dead.

00:03:50.000 We can't even check.

00:03:51.000 Yeah, we can't fact check.

00:03:52.000 Maybe she was killed by like the hatred broke her heart.

00:03:55.000 Yeah, maybe it was Daniel Penny on the public transportation or something. 0.99

00:03:59.000 It must have been some mean white man.

00:04:01.000 You know, there's a serious way to do the segment where we just spend the next half an hour reading all the names of all the people who died in 9-11. 0.91

00:04:08.000 And then Zoron thinks the real victim is a fake aunt who is really sort of a cousin.

00:04:12.000 He's not even totally sure, but I didn't follow that description completely.

00:04:16.000 And it just shows you the obscene nature of the dishonesty of the campaign.

00:04:20.000 Oh, it's absurd.

00:04:22.000 But here's, we're going to get to this later in the hour.

00:04:25.000 We're actually going to have Rich Barris on.

00:04:27.000 I saw the segment Rich did with Steve Bannon.

00:04:29.000 People were passing around.

00:04:30.000 I was like, I called Rich immediately.

00:04:31.000 I was like, Rich, we need to do this.

00:04:32.000 I wasn't planning on doing this today, but we need to do this.

00:04:35.000 And this is what I think, you know, we could mock Zorhan Mamdani all we want. 0.94

00:04:35.000 It is the key. 0.94

00:04:40.000 And goodness gracious, does he deserve it?

00:04:44.000 But the truth is, is that he has been doing one thing very, very well.

00:04:48.000 And it's a lesson for all of us conservatives that support Trump, that support MAGA, that support conservative populism, all of these things is that Zoron is focusing on domestic issues.

00:05:00.000 The American people are sick of foreign exploits, foreign adventurism.

00:05:06.000 They're sick of anything that takes their eyes off of the prize, which is domestic peace and tranquility and thriving, economic, particularly.

00:05:15.000 And Zoron's been talking about what?

00:05:17.000 Rent control, free buses, grocery stores.

00:05:20.000 Which will all fail.

00:05:21.000 All fail.

00:05:22.000 They are unworkable.

00:05:22.000 They are a laughingstock.

00:05:24.000 They are not a serious proposal.

00:05:26.000 They will fail.

00:05:27.000 They will end in destruction.

00:05:28.000 They will end in absolute catastrophe.

00:05:31.000 That's not the point.

00:05:32.000 The point is, what is he talking about?

00:05:34.000 And he's gotten one good thing accomplished in his campaign.

00:05:38.000 And that is, and it goes back to this idea of the question he was asked in the debate.

00:05:43.000 Like, where are you going to go to Israel?

00:05:45.000 He says, no, I'm going to stay right here, which was completely.

00:05:47.000 Don't blow through that point too fast.

00:05:48.000 That was the moment I thought he would win.

00:05:50.000 The whole debate crowd, this is when it was a real jungle primary, and they're all announcing emphatically which country I'll go to.

00:05:57.000 Cuomo said he go to Israel.

00:05:58.000 What did Eric Adams say?

00:05:59.000 I don't even remember who came to him.

00:06:00.000 I can't even remember where he said.

00:06:02.000 The point is, and I know this personally as a Los Angeles native, the shock of Kieran Bash when the city burned down, that she was in Africa, and showing you that she used the LA mayorship, where she's supposed to be keeping people safe, helping people thrive in her city.

00:06:15.000 That instead of doing that, she was using it to not make herself even a national figure, an international figure.

00:06:21.000 She's using the mayorship of L.A. to go to Africa so she can hobnob. 0.66

00:06:25.000 And Zoron's like, no, no, I'm not doing any of that. 1.00

00:06:27.000 I'm staying in New York.

00:06:28.000 That's the exact type of stuff people want to hear.

00:06:29.000 It's just true.

00:06:30.000 No, it's absolutely.

00:06:32.000 He 100% won the communication game, especially during the Democratic primary when they reasonably could have stopped him with a better candidate, with better messaging.

00:06:42.000 And instead, they badly misplayed it.

00:06:45.000 And they essentially thought they could basically say, well, Zoran Momdani doesn't like Israel, which turns out that is not a good play with, as people are discovering, there's a lot of people who actually really dislike Israel in New York now due to well, and there's another point that we're going to get to.

00:07:02.000 We also have Matt Walsh coming up in hour two, but Matt Walsh has pointed this out.

00:07:06.000 Others have pointed this out that New York is essentially 40% foreign-born population. 1.00

00:07:11.000 Mamdani is absolutely cooking with foreigners. 0.85

00:07:16.000 If you are foreign and you have the right to vote, allegedly, in New York, you're supporting him at a clip of like 65, 70%. 0.98

00:07:24.000 I mean, the guy is running away with foreign-born voters.

00:07:28.000 You could now make the argument at 40% foreign-born that New York is no longer a truly American city. 0.67

00:07:34.000 40% are foreigners. 0.96

00:07:36.000 Now, the left will say, we love immigrants. 0.93

00:07:38.000 That makes it even more American.

00:07:39.000 They love America more.

00:07:40.000 They're more patriotic than America.

00:07:42.000 Don't you know that foreigners are more American than Americans?

00:07:44.000 They built this country.

00:07:45.000 They built that. 1.00

00:07:46.000 Muslims built this country.

00:07:47.000 This is what they're saying.

00:07:49.000 So, anyways, this is one interesting piece, though, that we got to keep our eyes on as we're looking at this race.

00:07:53.000 Because, again, people, you have to understand in front of us, we have two lanes.

00:07:58.000 You're either going to go grievance populism, which is essentially socialism into communism with Mamdani, Maggioni, or you're going to go MAGA, which is conservative national populism, which is national renewal, which is patriotism.

00:08:14.000 Those are the two routes.

00:08:15.000 The establishment is so screwed the pooch in this country economically, culturally, civically, that there is now at a crisis point.

00:08:23.000 There is an inflection point in our country where we're either going to go this way or we're going to go this way. 0.88

00:08:26.000 There's only two options: the MAGA way is the American way.

00:08:30.000 You still have the rule of law, the Constitution, patriotism, the American flag.

00:08:34.000 You still get, you know, apple pie and baseball.

00:08:38.000 The other way is an unrecognizable hellscape, a hellhole that we probably would not be able to come back from, although I never bet against America.

00:08:47.000 But this is a really big deal.

00:08:47.000 I'll say that.

00:08:50.000 And why are we at this inflection point?

00:08:52.000 Because we have, as a country, over the last 40 years, pursued foreign interventions.

00:08:58.000 We've spent money on blood, sand, and death.

00:09:00.000 We've inflated our currency.

00:09:02.000 We've debased it.

00:09:03.000 We've spent deficits that are eye-watering.

00:09:07.000 And we have left the business of domestic policy to the side.

00:09:12.000 We have ignored it.

00:09:13.000 We have not pursued it in earnest and with vigor.

00:09:16.000 And this is ultimately, this is the Charlie Kirk show.

00:09:19.000 This is ultimately what Charlie's message was.

00:09:21.000 We have to have an economic moonshot.

00:09:23.000 We are in a race against the clock.

00:09:25.000 We are either going to deliver on the promises that Trump was elected on, or we are going to ignore them and get distracted by infighting or whatever. 0.94

00:09:33.000 And Gen Z is not going to get a piece of the American dream. 0.54

00:09:36.000 They're not going to buy in. 0.98

00:09:37.000 I want to play this one clip.

00:09:39.000 This is going to be from Mark Halperin. 1.00

00:09:41.000 He's saying that there is at least one more, let's say, surprise coming in the Momdani race, 134.

00:09:47.000 By informed Spidey Census, we're going to see at least one more piece of pretty significant opposition research dropped in this race here at the end that will potentially shake things up on one of the candidates, of course.

00:09:59.000 No, on Mondani.

00:10:02.000 I think will it have an effect on the outcome?

00:10:08.000 If it's what I'm told it is, it would happen.

00:10:10.000 So that is from Mark Halperin, who is a friend of the show.

00:10:13.000 Why would someone sit on it?

00:10:14.000 It's too late.

00:10:15.000 They're voting late.

00:10:16.000 He's too voting.

00:10:17.000 They could have something really bad.

00:10:18.000 It should have already been dropped. 1.00

00:10:19.000 All the hot young women are voting. 1.00

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00:11:26.000 So I think I want to take this because it's all related.

00:11:29.000 It's all related.

00:11:30.000 We are being told by Mehdi Hassan that Mehdi Hassan, by the way, I don't know if we have this graphic ready, but he called Charlie a bigot and a racist who spread hate.

00:11:39.000 And we're going to get into that with Matt Walsh.

00:11:40.000 So I don't want to completely go into the topic, but I'm keeping my powder dry to go after Mehdi Hassan because I don't like him.

00:11:48.000 Candidly, if you're going to call my friend a racist and a bigot and hurl these insults, you can go pound sand about a thousand times.

00:11:55.000 You can move away. 1.00

00:11:56.000 Can go back to your real home, which is some Muslimscape, namely London. 1.00

00:12:03.000 I think that's very smart. 1.00

00:12:04.000 But we're going to get there in just a bit.

00:12:06.000 But there is this, like, it feels like a re, I don't know, emergence, an ascendancy of this online chatter about black and brown people basically saying that we are under assault and that the big MAGA people are so racist and all this stuff.

00:12:22.000 And now, because of the government shutdown, they are not getting their EBT, or at least that is that is coming.

00:12:29.000 And a lot of people on TikTok are sounding off about this.

00:12:33.000 And there's even been a new Twitter X account created called EBT of TikTok.

00:12:39.000 EBT of TikTok.

00:12:41.000 And they are threatening a national day, a national shoplifting day, I guess, is, you know, to make up for this coming apocalypse that's coming.

00:12:53.000 So here's what's fascinating about this conversation to me because whenever we have the Democrats cause government shutdown, there's all these downstream effects, and they assume Republicans are going to get blamed for it.

00:13:03.000 It's really the Democrats that are doing this.

00:13:04.000 They won't fund a clean CR, so it's their fault.

00:13:07.000 So if these are Democrat voters, we should remind all these voters that, hey, we're only here because of the Democrats.

00:13:13.000 And if you look at this, I was pulling up the numbers before the show today, that food stamps are about 12% of U.S. grocery sales.

00:13:19.000 And they're way over-indexed for sugary drinks, cereals, frozen, frozen foods, salty snacks, candy.

00:13:25.000 By volume, it's way out of proportion.

00:13:27.000 So it's important every so often to have a national conversation where we bring that up: that the government money is being taken, confiscated from the taxpayers at gunpoint, is being given out so that you could buy, you know, candy and salty snacks.

00:13:38.000 And it's important to know that that's not a great thing.

00:13:41.000 But overall, if you're the person who thinks it is a good thing, to know that the Democrats got us here.

00:13:46.000 And so we can have both of those conversations simultaneously.

00:13:49.000 That I do think that they should be on the Democrats and they should be the ones who should bear the brunt of any political fallout if people can't get their candy rations.

00:13:56.000 I think it's as simple as this: they lost the election.

00:14:00.000 Now they are feeling the heat from their left flank.

00:14:03.000 And so now the establishment leadership Democrats are fighting. 0.91

00:14:07.000 They're trying to prove to their base, their AOC wing of the party, that they are fighting their Mamdani wing of the party. 0.59

00:14:12.000 And so they're just going to drag the country through this shutdown because they hate the fact that they lost an election. 0.67

00:14:19.000 And by the way, they passed a clean CR earlier.

00:14:21.000 And it all goes down to this ACA, this Obama subsidies.

00:14:24.000 You know, it's like their minds are blown that there is a health care program in policy in this country where a lot of people get health care that can't afford it.

00:14:34.000 So other people have to subsidize it, which costs a lot of money because healthcare is expensive.

00:14:38.000 And they also are making certain carve-outs for refugees or temporary asylum seekers or protected status, all of these things.

00:14:48.000 And of course, that costs money.

00:14:49.000 And Republicans said, hey, it's going to cost a lot of money.

00:14:52.000 We're not going to extend these subsidies forever.

00:14:55.000 And so the bill is coming due and the Democrats are freaking out and they're crying victim.

00:15:00.000 But here's the deal: the snap benefits are hilarious because now TikTok is just full of a bunch of people that are just openly admitting that they're going to now steal.

00:15:09.000 177.

00:15:10.000 We have it loaded.

00:15:11.000 When are y'all going to go and snap?

00:15:14.000 If they took away these snaps, these snap benefits, when is we snapping?

00:15:18.000 When is the day?

00:15:20.000 When are we snapping?

00:15:22.000 When are we snapping?

00:15:23.000 Because don't have me going in the grocery store and y'all loading up your carts with groceries running out and I'm at the register.

00:15:31.000 I'm running too.

00:15:33.000 I'm running too.

00:15:34.000 They're just openly admitting it.

00:15:36.000 Let's go ahead and play 178.

00:15:38.000 We got a bunch of these examples.

00:15:39.000 178.

00:15:40.000 Yeah, I told y'all, with or without EBT, me and mine gonna eat.

00:15:45.000 Clock it.

00:15:46.000 Cuz now.

00:15:47.000 Of course we go eat.

00:15:49.000 Oh, cuz now.

00:15:50.000 We gonna eat.

00:15:53.000 So, Blake, this feels like we got 45 seconds here, but this feels like now we're just at the phase where we're openly admitting shopping.

00:16:01.000 Why can't we just say, like, okay, so they get a gigantic federal program to give them free money in return for doing nothing, and they're going to extort you and say, if we don't give us more free stuff in return for doing nothing, for being fat lumps of crap, we're going to go and steal a bunch from stores, which we already essentially don't punish because, God forbid, we punish people who commit crimes and break laws.

00:16:22.000 And as a result, you have countless cities in the U.S. have the toothpaste and the deodorant behind a freaking locked door because otherwise people steal them all of the time. 0.98

00:16:31.000 And not to mention how many foreigners, even illegal aliens, getting snap benefits and they're demanding that we keep it up or we're going to rip off the stores.

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00:17:45.000 I think it's one of the most important.

00:17:47.000 If you tune out everything else today, I want you to be completely focused on this moment.

00:17:53.000 Of course, don't tune anything else out.

00:17:54.000 So the whole show is important, but please focus on this.

00:17:58.000 We have Rich Barris, Big Data Poll, the People's Pundit on X. Rich, you're joining us now because I called you literally on the way to the studio and I was like, brother, this is the most critical insight that I have seen basically since the election.

00:18:14.000 You did a great interview with Steve Bannon in a war room this morning.

00:18:17.000 Shout out to Steve.

00:18:18.000 But this is critically important.

00:18:19.000 And it is this bifurcation of our focus that seems as old as time, especially within the GOP, between foreign policy and domestic issues.

00:18:28.000 Walk us through this.

00:18:29.000 I've got the graphs ready.

00:18:30.000 I'll put them up when you call for them.

00:18:32.000 Yeah, Andrew, thanks as always for having me on. 0.76

00:18:36.000 Look, the Republican Party has got to snap out of what they're in right now.

00:18:40.000 And, you know, I've learned in the last couple of weeks that the left is not the only one who can be in a bubble.

00:18:46.000 And actually, it's more than a couple of weeks.

00:18:48.000 But, you know, if you talk to people in and around Congress, you know, they think everything's swimming and magical, and even people in the administration.

00:18:56.000 The fact of the matter is, the voter does not.

00:19:00.000 So they are giving Trump, and your opening was fire because they're giving Trump a lot of grace.

00:19:06.000 They would never give another Republican president because he's Donald Trump and he's different.

00:19:11.000 And that's something Republicans are just going to have to grapple with.

00:19:14.000 You're just not going to be able to mirror that kind of love that he has from these voters.

00:19:18.000 So they're giving them a lot of grace, but they are screaming at this point that Trump was not elected to focus all over the world like this.

00:19:25.000 And a lot of people, there are different elements in administration.

00:19:28.000 It's the way administrations work.

00:19:30.000 They're always trying to fight for the presidency years.

00:19:32.000 The voter wants the administration to refocus on domestic issues.

00:19:36.000 And it's very important that people understand that there is, and yeah, I mean, if you put the graphic up, you're going to see it's a majority.

00:19:42.000 It's 52% roughly who say the Trump administration is focusing too much on foreign affairs and wants them to Recommit to the domestic agenda.

00:19:53.000 Exactly.

00:19:54.000 So that purple on the, I guess, the right side of your screen, right, Rich, that's the people that say the Trump administration is focusing too much on foreign policy.

00:20:04.000 That's right.

00:20:05.000 And it's worse when you look inside of who is saying this, Andrew, because of course you're going to get some Democrats who are just going to try to pick whatever they think will make Trump look the worst in the poll, right?

00:20:16.000 That's not what's going on here.

00:20:18.000 If you look at the independents specifically, who we call them MAGA independents, they only vote for Donald Trump.

00:20:23.000 Their vote history is basically 24, maybe 20, 24, 2016, right?

00:20:29.000 And then they disappear from elections every other time when Donald Trump is not on the ballot.

00:20:35.000 They did not vote for Trump again for foreign entanglements and all of this focus.

00:20:40.000 And I understand, you know, you and I, we do this for a living.

00:20:43.000 So we understand the president's job a lot has to deal with foreign policy.

00:20:47.000 But there is a point in any administration where you can get, I mean, bifurcated is a nicer word, but you could just flatly get distracted with foreign affairs and forget that the country has much more interest in solving domestic issues.

00:21:02.000 No matter how important, you know, the peace deal in the Middle East is, right?

00:21:06.000 Or whatever's going on with Israel or how important the Russo-Ukrainian war is in eastern Ukraine, which, by the way, he told them he would end in 48 hours.

00:21:15.000 No matter how important any of that stuff is, you're never going to convince the voter that it's more important than their ability to buy eggs at the grocery store.

00:21:22.000 This is exactly right.

00:21:24.000 Which is why Momdani is winning.

00:21:26.000 This is exactly right. 0.96

00:21:27.000 So Momdani has a bunch of fairy tales that he's pitching out to the New York voter voting electorate, which, by the way, is like 40% foreign-born. 0.91

00:21:35.000 So they just want free stuff off the American taxpayers' back. 0.98

00:21:39.000 I get it.

00:21:40.000 I get their motivation.

00:21:41.000 But he is doing one thing right, and that he's talking about affordability.

00:21:46.000 He's talking about the kitchen table issues, right?

00:21:49.000 So let's show me.

00:21:50.000 I'm going to put up this one.

00:21:51.000 This is 181.

00:21:52.000 It's a little bit of a complicated graph.

00:21:54.000 Rich, boil 181 down for us.

00:21:57.000 What are we looking at here?

00:21:58.000 Because this is like, please rank each issue from most to least important to your vote.

00:22:03.000 And right at the top, cost of living, inflation, economy, jobs.

00:22:06.000 Way ahead, Andrew.

00:22:08.000 Way ahead.

00:22:09.000 So this is called rank distribution.

00:22:12.000 And we'll do this when we identify the top 10 issues that people are telling us about.

00:22:16.000 We'll tell them to rank them.

00:22:18.000 And the reason we do this instead of just giving what most pollsters do, a multiple choice response, they'll have to pick their number one and that's it.

00:22:24.000 Maybe the economy or inflation comes in at like 25%.

00:22:27.000 The economy comes in at 20%, right?

00:22:30.000 That doesn't give you as much insight as a ranked distribution does.

00:22:34.000 So what we're telling them to do is rank it, like you said, from most to least important, one through 10.

00:22:40.000 And it gives us a better understanding of three issues, four issues, five issues that are driving people's, what, you know, driving people's decision in who they're going to vote for, what they're prioritizing.

00:22:52.000 This graph, this graph is so, is, is like freaking everything.

00:22:56.000 I don't know how to like.

00:22:59.000 It's so critically important.

00:23:01.000 Top five issues: cost of living, inflation, economy, jobs.

00:23:05.000 Number three, health care, Obamacare.

00:23:08.000 Number four, crime and safety.

00:23:10.000 Number five, immigration, border, and security.

00:23:12.000 By the way, just one small pet peeve that I have with immigration and border security is that when Joe Biden was president, it was a complete chaos at the border.

00:23:25.000 Millions of people, these videos were going everywhere, and that was ranking almost as the top issue.

00:23:29.000 As soon as President Trump fixes it, people forget about it and falls off the cliff.

00:23:33.000 It's just a crazy issue like that.

00:23:35.000 Yes, you know that.

00:23:36.000 This is what I've been trying to do.

00:23:37.000 You know, it happened.

00:23:38.000 It happened in Trump 1.0.

00:23:40.000 It happened in Trump 1.0.

00:23:42.000 He got zero credit when it came to 2020 for that because he'd largely taken care of it.

00:23:47.000 It was still an issue more so than it is now.

00:23:49.000 But the fact that he has been so it has been such a decisive and historic achievement on the border, our attention spans are so short that it goes away.

00:24:00.000 It's like it didn't even happen.

00:24:02.000 It's a sad commentary on the American voter and how they make rational policy choices, but that is the case.

00:24:08.000 And the same thing would happen if there was an economic crisis and then he came in and he fixed the economic crisis.

00:24:14.000 It would fall as well.

00:24:15.000 Like the economy would fall as being prioritized in how they're going to vote.

00:24:21.000 It's the way it's the nature of things.

00:24:23.000 I will say this, though, when we asked his approval about issues, he gets good marks.

00:24:29.000 The best marks he gets is on immigration.

00:24:31.000 So they are giving him credit for it.

00:24:33.000 I think that's probably why his approval rating has not fallen more than what we have it now, which is in the mid-40s.

00:24:41.000 But he gets good marks on immigration.

00:24:43.000 And after that, is foreign policy.

00:24:45.000 But guys, if you look at the approval rating on inflation and cost of living, I'm going to say this.

00:24:51.000 It doesn't give me any pleasure to say it, but it's true and I have to say it.

00:24:55.000 It's Biden level bad.

00:24:56.000 He is now at Biden level approval when it comes to do you approve or disapprove of how he's doing his job in president with each of the following issues.

00:25:06.000 And we ask about inflation and cost of living.

00:25:09.000 It's abysmal.

00:25:10.000 The numbers are horrible, Andrew.

00:25:12.000 And yet he's still, you know, he's still only negative a few points because I think people are remembering, look, he didn't get that great of a situation.

00:25:21.000 But my point is this.

00:25:23.000 Now, and I started to, you know, raise this flag when everything started with the bombing of Iran.

00:25:30.000 This happens with administrations.

00:25:31.000 It's very difficult to remain focused on what it is you were elected to do.

00:25:37.000 And let me put it this way.

00:25:39.000 People, especially these MAGA only or Trump or bust voters, we'll call them sometimes.

00:25:45.000 They believe that Donald Trump being reelected is literally this country's last chance before we go past the point of no return.

00:25:54.000 So we pass the event horizon with the debt or we pass the event horizon with immigration or we pass the event horizon, which is so many other problems that we have in this society.

00:26:04.000 We simply cannot correct them. 0.88

00:26:06.000 So it's not that they didn't support getting rid of Iran's nuclear weapons. 0.89

00:26:14.000 It doesn't have to be one or the other. 0.75

00:26:15.000 The issue for them is, what about us?

00:26:20.000 Do we or do we not come first?

00:26:21.000 Like you're saying is literally America first.

00:26:24.000 And yet their last chance, they feel, is being gobbled up by the interests of other people and other nations.

00:26:32.000 So rich.

00:26:32.000 If they don't refocus, Andrew, this is going to be, Blake and I were having this debate before we started the show.

00:26:39.000 And I was like, well, you know, the inflation is cooling.

00:26:42.000 The numbers are cooling the market, stock market, but people don't care about the stock market like they used to.

00:26:47.000 Like Trump can't go around being like, oh, the market's up.

00:26:50.000 It didn't work in 2020.

00:26:51.000 He talked non-stop about stock markets.

00:26:53.000 People don't own much in stocks.

00:26:55.000 No, absolutely.

00:26:55.000 So what's the answer then?

00:26:57.000 So inflation is cooling, but he's still getting clobbered on cost of living and inflation.

00:27:02.000 So what's the problem?

00:27:04.000 As I tried, I think, to explain is that some of this, I think a lot of this is just about optics, right?

00:27:12.000 So, and if you look at the White House schedule, since, I mean, you can go back to that conflict, that military exercise, go and look at the White House schedule, Andrew, and you'll see that they're clearly prioritizing foreign over domestic. 0.92

00:27:26.000 It's just true.

00:27:27.000 So when the voters are yelling in my ear about it, it's hard to argue with them.

00:27:32.000 It's optics.

00:27:33.000 I mean, what are you talking about every day?

00:27:35.000 I mean, they repeatedly step on their own message and their own success.

00:27:39.000 I mean, it's just the truth.

00:27:41.000 You have to convince them that that's your main focus, even if you're gaining ground.

00:27:47.000 You need them to know that you're focused on it.

00:27:49.000 I think you're right.

00:27:50.000 I think they need, I think Trump is the expert of this.

00:27:53.000 He could pivot quickly if this got through his head, because what you then start doing is you start commissioning like, you know, obviously it would be the Hoover Dam, but something like that, some big, huge domestic, you know, big, what do they call it?

00:28:08.000 The big hairy bold ideas or whatever, like these, these big, audacious ideas that only Trump could inspire people to believe was possible.

00:28:16.000 Big visual landmark achievements that are here that are monuments that work, that help make people's lives better.

00:28:22.000 We got to come up with stuff like this to re-inspire the population.

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00:29:36.000 So, Rich, I'm going to read you some emails here.

00:29:38.000 Blake's going to pull some up.

00:29:39.000 I see one from Debbie.

00:29:40.000 She goes, I'm watching Rich Barris.

00:29:42.000 Trump can multitask, and that's what he's doing.

00:29:44.000 He's going around the world to make the United States the strongest and get us the best deals.

00:29:48.000 The fruits of his labor will be coming in the next year.

00:29:50.000 He has not forgotten about us.

00:29:51.000 He is 100% balls to the wall multitasking.

00:29:53.000 So I disagree with him.

00:29:55.000 I guess him is what she's saying.

00:29:58.000 Is there time to correct?

00:29:59.000 I mean, we've got a midterm.

00:30:01.000 I mean, this is just the politics of it.

00:30:03.000 Do we have time to correct?

00:30:04.000 Look, I mean, it's not disagreeing with me.

00:30:07.000 You're disagreeing with the voters that we surveyed.

00:30:10.000 I'm only conveying the opinion of the voters.

00:30:12.000 And to tell you, I mean, the bottom line is that sounds like a core Trump voter.

00:30:16.000 That's not the problem, and that's not what wins elections.

00:30:19.000 Of course, you need to get your base out.

00:30:21.000 But there is specifically a slice of the electorate that has only been voting for Donald Trump.

00:30:28.000 That Republicans, it should be their number one job on planet Earth right now, should be to convince these voters to stay Republican.

00:30:36.000 It's the reason why Mike Rogers lost in Michigan, but Donald Trump won.

00:30:40.000 It's the reason why Dave McCormick barely held on the skin of his teeth while Donald Trump won easily.

00:30:46.000 Those are the voters you have to really cater to.

00:30:48.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:30:51.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:30:53.000 We're taking your emails, Rich Barris.

00:30:57.000 So I get another email here.

00:30:58.000 You know, I watched Bannon with Rich, and I'm glad you're bringing it to this audience.

00:31:02.000 I totally agree.

00:31:03.000 The way people voted on Rich issue, it basically was on domestic issues and low interest on abortion.

00:31:08.000 That's another insight, by the way, from this graph.

00:31:13.000 Abortion came in last, which is fascinating.

00:31:16.000 So what they're going to do now, Democrats are pivoting from abortion to healthcare.

00:31:20.000 Don't you think, Alex?

00:31:21.000 Yeah, I think they definitely do that.

00:31:23.000 But I'm going to go back to inflation for a second because inflation's down, big league.

00:31:27.000 And we were told it was going to go up because of tariffs.

00:31:30.000 And it's not gone up.

00:31:31.000 It's gone down significantly.

00:31:33.000 And this is since Trump's been president.

00:31:35.000 And it would be up.

00:31:36.000 It would be down more aside from he hasn't been a president for a year.

00:31:40.000 So he's still getting boned by some of the worst Biden spending spree at the end.

00:31:44.000 But no one's telling the story.

00:31:46.000 Of course, East Option Media is never going to tell the story.

00:31:48.000 And then in conservative media, we're spending a lot of time fighting amongst ourselves these days.

00:31:52.000 We're not going to write the story.

00:31:53.000 So there's really important media story as well that's happening here.

00:31:58.000 Rich?

00:31:59.000 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:32:00.000 I 100% agree with that.

00:32:02.000 There is a lagging effect when voters begin to feel what we see in economic indicators.

00:32:08.000 It does lag sometimes.

00:32:10.000 There is an argument that people make, and it's a strong argument.

00:32:14.000 But again, I think then it's incumbent on Republicans.

00:32:17.000 It's incumbent on the White House.

00:32:18.000 Trump drives the message, right?

00:32:20.000 The White House drives the message.

00:32:21.000 It's incumbent on them to tell that story.

00:32:23.000 Well, Andrew, on several days, let me just say this real quick.

00:32:27.000 On several days of those CPI reports, they've stepped on their own good news.

00:32:32.000 Yeah, very good point.

00:32:33.000 I totally agree.

00:32:34.000 So one of the suggestions from Terry is: could we deploy JD Vance domestically to sort of be that domestic messenger or does it have to come from Trump?

00:32:44.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:32:45.000 I mean, I'm trying.

00:32:48.000 On that front, I've had the same idea and I'm trying, but I do think that Trump remains the strongest.

00:32:58.000 It's not just him as a personality.

00:33:00.000 Part of it is the role that the president plays.

00:33:03.000 He's not exactly a head holder, or a handholder.

00:33:06.000 So we had this idea of the seasick voter back in 2020.

00:33:10.000 Of course, it was the media rocking the boat, but Trump isn't, he's just not him.

00:33:15.000 It's not who he is, the great consoler in chief, right?

00:33:17.000 Some presidents have been that way.

00:33:19.000 He's got, he's, there's more machismo there than there is in prior presidents who do things like that.

00:33:25.000 So I don't think they need that.

00:33:27.000 I just think they need to think or they need to know that that is Trump's number one focus.

00:33:34.000 Like, Andrew, the days of I feel your pain, I hear your voice, right?

00:33:39.000 That is nowhere existent right now.

00:33:42.000 And people are feeling pain.

00:33:43.000 I'm telling you, in peer-to-peer interviews conducting this poll, people were sending back grocery store memes.

00:33:49.000 I mean, that doesn't happen to pollsters, guys.

00:33:51.000 All right.

00:33:52.000 So people were so whatever you want to call it.

00:33:55.000 They're so passionate about this.

00:33:57.000 They're literally tweeting or texting back to the agents on the other end.

00:34:02.000 They're literally texting them memes about prices, the grocery stores.

00:34:06.000 That's where we're at right now.

00:34:08.000 This is super important because it's not just a media story.

00:34:10.000 I think largely this is a media story, but this is an important point Rich is making because you can definitely feel it that the people still feel like we're getting screwed, squeeze the grocery store too much.

00:34:19.000 It's a really tough battle, and it's one that does need a lot more of a priority because Americans, it doesn't matter who's president.

00:34:25.000 If you feel the pains of the grocery store, you're not going to be happy with your life.

00:34:27.000 It's just a flat out fact.

00:34:30.000 I guess, I guess, when I think of Trump's approval ratings, like we're talking about whether he needs to be the messenger.

00:34:37.000 Has Trump ever really been a strong messenger outside of his base?

00:34:40.000 I feel like Trump has always been strongest as president, I feel, when the story is least about him.

00:34:46.000 And I feel like his personal disposition is such that he doesn't ever like being out of the spotlight yet.

00:34:52.000 I think his administration has often come off the strongest when the story is not, you know, what Trump said on truth, what Trump said on X, what the latest thing Trump did that is causing controversy.

00:35:02.000 A lot of people just really like his core policies, whether it's on trade or on international affairs.

00:35:08.000 And when those are the story and he's actually a bit in the background, I think he's at a strong.

00:35:12.000 Well, I actually do agree with that just from a messaging standpoint, Trump.

00:35:15.000 But Trump does, you know, it's the Trump show.

00:35:19.000 We're all in the Trump show.

00:35:20.000 We're all in the train.

00:35:21.000 We can't get off.

00:35:22.000 So on what Blake mentioned, trade, how is that factoring into the tariffs, all that stuff?

00:35:28.000 Really quick, Rich Barris.

00:35:30.000 Yeah, I actually, I mean, people who dislike Trump are going to bring up stuff like the tariffs and their impact on inflation without even knowing or understanding that what was just said before is actually true, that inflation has cooled and that the big, you know, chicken little, the sky is falling, you know, predictions over the impact tariffs would have on it.

00:35:48.000 It just never came true, right?

00:35:50.000 So again, I think it's coming down to this, guys.

00:35:54.000 And I actually do agree with Blake, you know, that background is better.

00:35:57.000 But next time he steps to the microphone, more about domestic, less about foreign policy.

00:36:02.000 That's all they hear from him.

00:36:03.000 Simply Rich Barris, the people's pundit, check him out.

00:36:07.000 He's the best.

00:36:08.000 We thank you, Rich.

00:36:08.000 We'll see you again soon, man.

00:36:10.000 All the best, brother.

00:36:17.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 28, 2025

Food Stamp Stoppage + Trump’s Polling Vulnerability?

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