The Charlie Kirk Show - Forging Ahead in the Fight for Life with Candace Owens and Abby Johnson

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00:00:09.000 I give some opening remarks about the fight for life in Michigan.

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00:00:20.000 I think you'll enjoy this conversation with Candace all about life and what is happening in our country.

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00:01:30.000 Buckle up, here we go, Charlie.

00:01:32.000 What you've done is incredible here.

00:01:33.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:01:35.000 I want you to know.

00:01:36.000 We are lucky to have Charlie Kirk Charlie Kirk's running the White House.

00:01:40.000 Folks, I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:43.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:44.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:01:46.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.

00:01:51.000 Turning point.

00:01:52.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:02:01.000 That's why we are here.

00:02:05.000 Thank you, it's great to be here.

00:02:08.000 Sorry, i'm late.

00:02:09.000 Complicated business.

00:02:10.000 If you guys remember, Trump said that when he was late, when he won on that beautiful night in 2016.

00:02:15.000 No it's, it's.

00:02:15.000 It's phenomenal to be here in the heartland of the country and um Portland Michigan, which is really nice, and I just want to say first thank you to the amazing organizers of this event.

00:02:25.000 We traveled all the way across the country for this.

00:02:28.000 I spoke here a couple years ago and you know the fight for the unborn is the most important fight that we have to fight for those that um, do not have a voice and you know, kind of goes to this question of when does life begin and what is a human life.

00:02:42.000 And this church and the leadership of this church have done such a phenomenal job, and if we had a thousand churches like this one, America wouldn't be, it would be in a much better place.

00:02:52.000 I'll tell you what truly so I want to.

00:02:57.000 I want to talk about a couple different things here, and then I think we're going to do a fun panel.

00:03:02.000 I have some good news that I want to share, because it seems as if there's not a lot of that.

00:03:06.000 Uh, one of the reasons why I was late is because we live in a third world country.

00:03:08.000 Now, if you haven't noticed where, if you book a flight it's, It's Russian roulette.

00:03:13.000 You don't know if you're going to get canceled or you're going to go to Seattle instead of Denver and total redirection.

00:03:18.000 So apologies for that.

00:03:20.000 Southern border is wide open.

00:03:21.000 Can't even offload supply chain containers.

00:03:25.000 Inflation is a real thing.

00:03:27.000 And it feels as if everything is going in the wrong direction.

00:03:30.000 And I'm not going to be here to tell you that policy-wise it isn't.

00:03:35.000 But I will tell you, though, that the other side, the collectivists, the statists, the people that are in support of abortion, I think they're, I think the ruling class of this country is getting demoralized.

00:03:48.000 And I think they thought this would be a lot different coming into October of 2021.

00:03:53.000 Things would look a lot differently.

00:03:55.000 And instead of giving up, after a lot of us were, I think, very disappointed after what happened when the current regime was implemented, not elected.

00:04:06.000 That's a differentiation.

00:04:07.000 Implementation versus election, right?

00:04:10.000 And I think a lot of us were very disappointed in that.

00:04:15.000 But versus other years, we did not kind of engage in what I believe is the number one kind of gateway to sin, which is self-pity.

00:04:26.000 And I think we all know this, that self-pity is the beginning of a lot of the worst sins, especially sins of the flesh.

00:04:34.000 I deserve this drink, or I, you know, I've such a tough day at work, or things are so bad, I could just do what I want.

00:04:42.000 The same is also politically, right?

00:04:44.000 Which is things are not going the way I want them to.

00:04:47.000 I don't need to show up to school board meetings.

00:04:49.000 I don't need to show up to be a sidewalk counselor.

00:04:53.000 I don't need to show up to do my job.

00:04:55.000 Self-pity is a bad thing.

00:04:56.000 And it's unbiblical, by the way.

00:04:58.000 We as Christians are commanded to reject self-pity.

00:05:01.000 We are saved because of Jesus Christ and thanks to Jesus Christ.

00:05:05.000 And we should have that kind of cheer and joy in everything we do every single day.

00:05:09.000 And so, but it's easy to want to kind of be involved in self-pity, especially when you start to see things go in a direction you've never seen them go before, where you have results come in the middle of the election night, mail-in ballots going in every single direction.

00:05:25.000 And then you see a regime start to implement ideas and policies that are not just unpopular, but it seems as if they don't care about the political consequences associated with it.

00:05:37.000 So in a typical kind of presidency, when you become president or win the presidency, you tend to care about what the people think.

00:05:47.000 This current regime has a 36% approval rating.

00:05:50.000 What do you think about that?

00:05:52.000 I mean, that's extraordinary.

00:05:56.000 You stole my line.

00:05:58.000 I said, who are these people?

00:06:01.000 You must listen to my radio show.

00:06:03.000 I say, it's higher than I could have ever possibly imagined.

00:06:07.000 Who are these people?

00:06:07.000 And so, but usually when it gets to that level, the president and the chief of staff say, okay, let's slow things down.

00:06:16.000 Let's start to do things more popular.

00:06:18.000 Let's try to sue for peace.

00:06:20.000 Let's go to the middle.

00:06:21.000 Let's kind of have like, you know, a kids with cancer day at the White House, you know, really non-controversial type stuff, right?

00:06:28.000 Let's go bring all the Olympic athletes to the White House. 0.99

00:06:31.000 Instead, they say, you know what?

00:06:32.000 We're super unpopular.

00:06:33.000 Let's go mandate the vaccine against people's will and tell private companies they must do that.

00:06:39.000 You know what?

00:06:39.000 Let's go do let's keep the southern border wide open and tell Americans it's actually good for you.

00:06:43.000 And so there's one way to explain this, the only way, is that they have no intent ever of running Joe Biden for political office again.

00:06:50.000 That this is a metaphorical kamikaze president.

00:06:53.000 That they now have a gift.

00:06:55.000 And the gift is, what happened?

00:06:57.000 What do you do if you don't care about approval ratings?

00:07:00.000 This.

00:07:02.000 What do you do when you don't care about the will of the people?

00:07:05.000 Because you'll just replace it with, you know, Camela or somebody else.

00:07:09.000 And this is obvious to a lot of us.

00:07:11.000 That's not a profound thought.

00:07:12.000 The next thing I'm going to say is new thinking.

00:07:15.000 We all know that they probably have no intention of running him for office again, but that's incredibly dangerous because it's uniquely un-American. 1.00

00:07:21.000 The ultimate check and balance on power is the fact that we're going to vote you out of office.

00:07:27.000 What happens if the president says, I don't care, I'm only going to serve out one term to run the country into the ground.

00:07:32.000 What do we do then?

00:07:33.000 That's new.

00:07:35.000 And we used to call that a lame duck president.

00:07:38.000 This whole presidency is a lame duck presidency where they just don't care.

00:07:42.000 And because of that, they are not slowing down or pushing the brakes.

00:07:46.000 They're accelerating on their punishment of fellow American citizens.

00:07:50.000 So murders are up 30% year over year.

00:07:53.000 Southern borders wide open.

00:07:55.000 I mean, hundreds of thousands of people pouring into our country.

00:07:59.000 You're all going to experience supply shocks very soon when you do Christmas shopping and wait till you see the new prices.

00:08:04.000 Dollar store is now the $1.25 store.

00:08:06.000 It's probably going to be even more than that.

00:08:07.000 It's true.

00:08:08.000 And what is our administration, what's their top priority?

00:08:13.000 The Department of Justice issues a memo saying that moms and dads showing up to school board meetings across the country are domestic terrorists.

00:08:20.000 That they need to use the Patriot Act that was designed to go after people that are associated with al-Qaeda.

00:08:25.000 If you show up to school board meetings and complain that your children are learning about pornographic curriculum or they're learning about abortion on demand or they're learning about racist critical race theory.

00:08:35.000 Merrick Garland signs an order saying that I'm going to use the Department of Homeland Security, we're going to use the FBI, and we're going to use the DOJ to go and create a new commission to monitor, to spy on, infiltrate moms and dads showing up and complaining at local education areas, local educational institutions, voicing their opinion.

00:08:55.000 Turning Point USA, the organization that I founded and that we run, was listed in that letter saying that what we are doing as our school board watch list is contributing to the targeting of school board officials across the country.

00:09:10.000 And, you know, that's kind of no, you know, when you're doing a great job, when the Department of Justice decides, you know what, murders up 30% last year.

00:09:19.000 No memo, by the way, from the Attorney General on murders going up 30%.

00:09:23.000 No memo on the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are coming into our country without any sort of testing, any sort of background, just coming straight into the interior of the country.

00:09:33.000 But who are the real enemies?

00:09:35.000 You.

00:09:36.000 The real enemies are the patriotic Christians in the heartland of the country. 1.00

00:09:40.000 And this regime has decided to declare, and I don't use this word lightly, a domestic war on all of us.

00:09:47.000 I don't use that word lightly, and I don't like that word.

00:09:50.000 That's an awful thing.

00:09:51.000 Winston Churchill, the greatest man to live in the 20th century, he was good at war and he hated war.

00:09:55.000 He knew what it meant.

00:09:57.000 But this regime has said, you know what?

00:09:59.000 We are now going to make all of you feel uncomfortable.

00:10:03.000 We're going to come after you.

00:10:04.000 And you see this reflected in a variety of different ways.

00:10:07.000 And so the question is, how is that going for them?

00:10:11.000 And here's actually the really good news.

00:10:12.000 And I kind of mentioned this: is that they thought we would give up.

00:10:17.000 And so as we are now in mid-October and we're in this kind of situation where we're seeing the country unfold, the Zuckerbergs, the Bezos, Zuckerberg, who spent $420 million, by the way, to support Biden and the implementation, unprecedented amount of outside money in this last election.

00:10:36.000 How is this going for Francis Collins and for Fauci, who should have been fired on day one, by the way?

00:10:41.000 And for all of these deep state government bureaucrats, they're looking at it and they say, huh.

00:10:46.000 And this is why the DOJ memo about moms and dads showing up to school board meetings is so incredibly important to focus on.

00:10:53.000 They don't understand why we're growing in number and resolve.

00:10:58.000 They don't get it.

00:10:59.000 And they're saying it out loud.

00:11:01.000 So there's a term that I want to introduce to all conservatives out there.

00:11:04.000 And it's a book, and it's a very heady book, but it's by Nassim Taleb, which is called How to Be Anti-Fragile.

00:11:13.000 So if I asked you what is the opposite of fragile, you would say it is durable.

00:11:19.000 This social scientist introduced a new term.

00:11:21.000 He said, what?

00:11:23.000 How do you describe a group of people that grow stronger the more you attack them?

00:11:28.000 Not that are able to survive, but they grow in number.

00:11:31.000 They grow in their tenacity.

00:11:34.000 He coined this term called anti-fragile.

00:11:36.000 It is groups that actually get stronger the more stress you put on them.

00:11:42.000 Very few groups in human history are anti-fragile.

00:11:45.000 The American revolutionaries that founded our country are anti-fragile.

00:11:49.000 The more they threw at our founding fathers, the stronger they got.

00:11:52.000 They couldn't understand where the people were coming from.

00:11:54.000 The more churches they burned down, the more people enlisted in their ranks.

00:11:58.000 The more public hangings they did, the more people wanted to defeat the British.

00:12:02.000 And so you look around, you look at the conservative movement, they can't understand that the more they call us domestic terrorists, the more they spy on us, the more they put people that walk into the Capitol and take a selfie and put them in solitary confinement because they were there on January 6th, the more they punish and penalize us, the more they say it's the big lie.

00:12:21.000 All of a sudden they're like, why are these rallies growing in size?

00:12:25.000 Why are moms and dads now not doing the self-pity party, but they're showing up and they're telling the school board member, you're going to be out of office soon?

00:12:33.000 They don't get it.

00:12:33.000 And here's the reason, is that thanks to President Trump and the conservatives around him, all of a sudden there's a new conservative movement in town.

00:12:42.000 And that's a good thing.

00:12:45.000 Is that the conservative movement is now not one that is going to be the Mitt Romney and John McCain.

00:12:55.000 After 2008, 2012, where you kind of just sit around and you're like, ah, you know, okay, the country's going down.

00:13:03.000 I guess there's nothing I could do about it.

00:13:05.000 Like, I'll go buy a pillow and watch Tucker Carlson, I guess, right?

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00:13:27.000 That's not enough to save the Republic, and we know it.

00:13:30.000 Instead, all of you, and I want to compliment you and encourage you, your activity, your prayers, your intervention into the spiritual domain of all this.

00:13:40.000 All of a sudden, the ruling classes, I don't get it. 0.97

00:13:43.000 This is why Francis Collins is resigning.

00:13:45.000 This is why Jon Stewart is coming up and he's saying, huh, it looks like they're going to take back power soon.

00:13:51.000 And I'm not going to make this Republican versus Democrat because that's not what this is about.

00:13:54.000 Let me be very clear.

00:13:55.000 This is about people that want to preserve America and people want to destroy America.

00:13:59.000 You guys can figure out the political side yourself.

00:14:01.000 It's that simple.

00:14:02.000 Now, I mean that because there's some people in the Republican Party that are a complete waste of time.

00:14:07.000 Michigan has a few, and I'm not going to get into that, I promise.

00:14:10.000 And only it's just a few.

00:14:15.000 And but here we are in mid-October and our forces are increasing and our resolve is strengthening.

00:14:25.000 And I've been doing this only for 10 years, traveling the country.

00:14:27.000 I've given over 2,500 speeches.

00:14:29.000 I visit college campuses, so you don't have to.

00:14:32.000 And on Monday, we're going to University of Vermont, so please pray for us as we go to University of Vermont.

00:14:37.000 We were just at University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, two weeks ago.

00:14:39.000 Has anyone at that event?

00:14:40.000 It was actually a great event.

00:14:41.000 It was awesome.

00:14:41.000 Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

00:14:42.000 Then University of Minnesota, Mancato, after that, we were also, where were we?

00:14:46.000 Oh, yeah, Baylor.

00:14:47.000 We were just in Texas.

00:14:47.000 I can't even remember.

00:14:48.000 Like, where am I, right?

00:14:49.000 I don't really know.

00:14:50.000 And so I'm telling you, the biggest problem we show up to these events, yeah, we have the, you know, anti-fun, all that nonsense.

00:14:57.000 We can't find rooms big enough to be able to facilitate all the students that want to show up to our events.

00:15:05.000 It's a big deal.

00:15:09.000 And so for those of you that said, don't give up hope in January, thank you.

00:15:13.000 For those of you in February that showed up to school board meetings and you kept the fight going, thank you.

00:15:18.000 That mattered more than you could ever imagine because now the ruling class, they thought they could shock and awesome and blitz-krieg us into submission.

00:15:25.000 They thought that it would be June and July and the country would be in such terrible shape and we'd say, okay, you know what?

00:15:33.000 Let's have Liz Cheney run the Republican Party. 1.00

00:15:37.000 That's what they thought we would do.

00:15:39.000 They thought, you know what?

00:15:41.000 Let's stop talking about abortion.

00:15:43.000 Let's stop talking about transgender gender dysphoria. 0.81

00:15:46.000 Let's stop talking about a God-centered society.

00:15:49.000 Let's just focus on corporate tax cuts and get along again.

00:15:52.000 And instead, they're getting angry on CNN and MSNBC, and yet they control everything.

00:15:57.000 Have you noticed these are the angriest winners you've ever seen in the history of politics?

00:16:02.000 It's true.

00:16:03.000 Says a lot about how they actually took power, by the way.

00:16:06.000 It's not graceful winners.

00:16:08.000 When you steal something, it's not so graceful.

00:16:10.000 And so when, and let me just say something about this.

00:16:16.000 The machine stuff, you guys can figure it out.

00:16:18.000 You all need to read Molly Hemingway's book.

00:16:20.000 It's a new book.

00:16:21.000 I had her on my podcast.

00:16:22.000 It's called Rigged.

00:16:23.000 Outside of the ballot stuff, the fact what big tech did to intervene in the election, the fact of changing the election laws, the fact the media did not cover Hunter Biden or Tony Bobulinsky, the fact that social media did not allow these stories.

00:16:36.000 So you guys can get into the machine stuff, whatever.

00:16:39.000 That's not my expertise.

00:16:41.000 My expertise is what social media did, big tech did, corporations did and all this.

00:16:45.000 There is no one that can say this is a fair election.

00:16:48.000 Zero.

00:16:48.000 It is impossible.

00:16:50.000 And I have to, so I just want to make sure, because some people say, Charlie, you got to move on from this.

00:16:54.000 I think that's a big mistake.

00:16:57.000 I think that if we don't focus on how the most powerful people on the planet declared war on you, the United Auto Worker, you know, United Auto Worker member that earns $65,000 a year and has a couple kids, like somehow you're the existential threat to the country.

00:17:16.000 And Mark Zuckerberg comes in worth $125 billion and spends $420 million.

00:17:22.000 Like, no, excuse me, that's a threat to democracy.

00:17:24.000 And I'm not going to forget about it.

00:17:25.000 And you shouldn't either.

00:17:26.000 And we have to say, how did this happen?

00:17:28.000 And we're not going to let it happen again.

00:17:30.000 And so now we're at this point where the people in charge, they have done nine months of trying to obliterate your resolve.

00:17:41.000 And when, and if you kind of think of this in metaphorical war terms, what are you always trying to do to the people that you want to destroy if you're the more powerful power?

00:17:50.000 And I know this is hard for you guys, for some people to admit, but we are kind of outdunned right now.

00:17:55.000 We don't control New York Times.

00:17:56.000 We don't control the FBI.

00:17:57.000 We don't control the CIA.

00:17:59.000 We don't control the media.

00:17:59.000 We don't control the tech companies.

00:18:01.000 All we have are the two most important things, the truth and a relationship with God and the people.

00:18:06.000 Those are the two most important things.

00:18:08.000 Now they have everything else, right?

00:18:11.000 They have all the institutions.

00:18:12.000 They have all the smart people on television, whatever.

00:18:15.000 And now they're like, we can't get rid of these people.

00:18:18.000 We try to force them to get vaccinated.

00:18:20.000 We try to mask their children. 0.71

00:18:22.000 And for whatever reason, they're not giving up.

00:18:25.000 And here is what, here's why we are going to win if we keep this up, is that the people that win these sorts of struggles always goes towards the anti-fragile.

00:18:36.000 And so this is the best way I can explain it.

00:18:38.000 If you might not be tracking all of this, who's going to win?

00:18:41.000 The side that is offended because you call them the wrong gender pronoun?

00:18:46.000 Or the side that is willing to get fired and lose their career after 30 years because they don't want to take a vaccine.

00:18:52.000 Which side is going to win?

00:18:54.000 The side that is willing to sacrifice for their values and say, you know what, this is my line.

00:18:59.000 You're going to have to take everything from me.

00:19:00.000 It might not feel that way right now.

00:19:02.000 But at some point, all of a sudden, you're going to realize there's more of us than them.

00:19:07.000 They're going to realize that this regime did everything they possibly could to demoralize you and keep you in place and try to make you give up.

00:19:16.000 And actually, the opposite is occurring.

00:19:19.000 And so people then say, Charlie, what do I do?

00:19:22.000 What do we do about it?

00:19:23.000 Well, I want to just reiterate something.

00:19:24.000 We are in a spiritual battle right now.

00:19:26.000 We are.

00:19:27.000 This is light versus dark.

00:19:28.000 This is good versus evil.

00:19:29.000 I do not use these words lightly.

00:19:31.000 Your prayer, living obediently to the scriptures, understanding what God commands you for this time is incredibly important.

00:19:38.000 Do not take your eye off the ball that everything you see physically is a manifestation of what is happening spiritually.

00:19:46.000 And especially right now, where you're going to start to see some of the forces of darkness start to get very, very worried that they're no longer going to have a monopoly on what's happening around them.

00:19:58.000 Remember, our struggle is not against flesh and blood.

00:20:01.000 It says that very clearly in the scriptures.

00:20:03.000 And so it says in Jeremiah 29, 7, one of my favorite scriptures in the whole Bible, the Lord is speaking to Jeremiah and to the people through Jeremiah and to the people of Israel who are actually in exile, where he says, demand the welfare of the nation that I have sent you in, because your welfare is tied to the nation's welfare.

00:20:22.000 We are commanded to care about what's happening around us politically, also governmentally, culturally, and otherwise.

00:20:30.000 We are not called as Christians to just kind of say, hey, you know, we have the truth.

00:20:35.000 We have the light.

00:20:36.000 Let's just kind of retreat into the hills.

00:20:38.000 You know, the house is on fire.

00:20:40.000 Let's get the kids out. 1.00

00:20:41.000 Jesus is coming next Thursday.

00:20:43.000 And look, I'm not sure what the Lutheran church's position is on eschatology, which means end times.

00:20:51.000 Here, look, every eschatology comes with an asset and a liability.

00:20:55.000 Every single eschatology.

00:20:57.000 Here's my personal opinion, is that we need to occupy till Jesus comes.

00:21:00.000 That we need to be salt and light in every single way imaginable.

00:21:04.000 That we cannot just say, hey, I'm checking out because everything's not falling apart.

00:21:09.000 It's fallen into place.

00:21:10.000 You might be right.

00:21:11.000 But what do you want to be caught doing when Jesus returns?

00:21:13.000 You want to be caught watching football or you want to be caught praying and involved in local, city, state levels of government?

00:21:19.000 It says in Romans to love what is good and hate what is evil.

00:21:24.000 And we right here are the ones that are called to do that tough work.

00:21:28.000 Let me say this.

00:21:28.000 Someone in this room right now, I'm sure, is going through a tough season right now, being persecuted because of your faith, because of your worldview, because you won't take a vaccine that, quite honestly, is not even a vaccine, but that's a whole different thing, which is more like a treatment than it is a vaccine.

00:21:42.000 And if you're pro-vaccine, whatever, if you're anti-I don't take a position on that, no one should be forced to take a vaccine against their will.

00:21:48.000 And also, stop fooling yourself, is that when you take the polio vaccine, you don't have to wear a mask to prevent yourself from getting polio, okay?

00:21:55.000 Is that it's like somehow we've been wildly propagandized into this whole kind of new set of circumstances.

00:22:02.000 Well, it actually lowers the chance you're hospitalized.

00:22:05.000 That's a completely different argument.

00:22:07.000 If we were worrying about lowering the chance of hospitalization, we should have been talking about hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, azithromycin, vitamin D, and all these things sent the very aspirin and all these other things.

00:22:16.000 Anyway, didn't mean I always lose some people with that topic.

00:22:22.000 I really don't care.

00:22:23.000 I'm not running for office.

00:22:24.000 You know, whatever.

00:22:26.000 So the point is the force, right?

00:22:29.000 You can only govern human beings in two ways.

00:22:32.000 You can govern them through speech or you can govern them through force.

00:22:35.000 Speech is what God gave us to be able to govern ourselves.

00:22:38.000 We are made in the image of God, mind, body, soul, or spirit, just like the Trinity, Father, the Son, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

00:22:47.000 Also, what does it say in Genesis 1 and John 1?

00:22:50.000 The two creation stories in the scriptures.

00:22:52.000 Now, some people say they say things completely different.

00:22:54.000 That's wrong.

00:22:55.000 It says, in the beginning, God created the heavens of the earth, Genesis 1.1, one of my favorite scriptures in the entire Bible, continues to say that God spoke it into existence.

00:23:03.000 God spoke it into existence.

00:23:05.000 God spoke it into existence.

00:23:07.000 What does it say in John 1?

00:23:08.000 In the beginning was the word, and the word was God, and the word was with God.

00:23:11.000 What does that word mean?

00:23:12.000 It means logos, which in Greek means rational speech.

00:23:16.000 We, as the speaking beings, as Aristotle would say, our ability to speak is how God made us in his image to make sense of a chaotic world.

00:23:26.000 We must always continue to be speaking.

00:23:28.000 We must call evil what it is.

00:23:30.000 We must call good what it is.

00:23:31.000 We must elevate the courageous.

00:23:33.000 We also must say that should not happen any longer.

00:23:35.000 It's very simple.

00:23:36.000 And so, Christians, some Christians say, hey, Charlie, you know, I'm not really into the economics of it.

00:23:41.000 What are three issues that I can focus on?

00:23:43.000 I say, I'm glad you asked.

00:23:44.000 Number one, I'm going to reiterate what I said at the beginning: is that when does life begin?

00:23:49.000 It's that simple.

00:23:51.000 Human life begins at conception when a new, unique deoxorbonucleic acid is formed.

00:23:57.000 That is a human life made in the image of God and deserves the full and complete protection from the law and from decent society.

00:24:05.000 When does life begin?

00:24:07.000 Currently in America, and Abby Johnson and Candace are far better on this topic than I am.

00:24:13.000 But I did have a very fun debate recently.

00:24:15.000 I went and see that with that pro-abortion guy.

00:24:16.000 Yeah, that was a circus, wasn't it, Mike?

00:24:18.000 I'm sorry you had to watch that.

00:24:21.000 For your sake, I was fine.

00:24:22.000 He was out of control.

00:24:23.000 He was a court gesture.

00:24:25.000 But if you ever want to see what the other side believes, and honestly, the spiritual dynamics of that, I think you could see it was absolutely out of control.

00:24:31.000 And but if it's not your DNA, it's not your choice.

00:24:35.000 It's that simple.

00:24:36.000 If it's not your DNA, it's not your choice.

00:24:39.000 The other side, the pro-abortion side, you guys have heard the acronym SLED, size, level of development, environmental degree of dependency.

00:24:46.000 Those are the four arguments for the abortion lobby uses.

00:24:50.000 But the other one that they use really is sovereignty.

00:24:53.000 It's my body.

00:24:54.000 It's my choice.

00:24:55.000 I get to do what I want to choose with it.

00:24:57.000 Well, if it's not your DNA, then it's actually not your body.

00:24:59.000 You are the temporary host of that human being.

00:25:02.000 And you should be thanking the Lord.

00:25:04.000 You get to be a temporary host of that human being.

00:25:06.000 And let's also not fool ourselves.

00:25:08.000 And I talk about this openly.

00:25:09.000 Most people are afraid to actually get to root causes.

00:25:12.000 Why are there 3,000 abortions every single day in America? 1.00

00:25:15.000 The real reason is because we are not open and clear enough with young people about how God designed, how God designed people to have sexual relations.

00:25:25.000 Is that extramarital sexual relations is what drives people to have 3,000 abortions a day. 0.98

00:25:31.000 Now, it's very interesting.

00:25:32.000 Even in this room, I always get golf claps.

00:25:36.000 And I'm not, it's not a joke.

00:25:38.000 I get golf claps because most Christians actually don't agree with what I just said. 0.62

00:25:42.000 It's true.

00:25:43.000 I get golf claps because people get very uneasy because they either themselves or other people participated in those sort of things.

00:25:50.000 I'm not here to be a moralizer.

00:25:52.000 That's not what I do.

00:25:52.000 I'm not here to make you feel sorry for yourself.

00:25:54.000 But if we do not point, not sorry for yourself, but have you feel guilty is what I mean.

00:26:00.000 Instead, what I'm saying is that there must be an ideal that we as Christians hold up and say that you will live an abundantly blessed life if you save yourself for the right human being.

00:26:12.000 I got married in May.

00:26:13.000 It's been the greatest experience of my life.

00:26:15.000 I encourage all young people to get married early and have lots of children and reject all the lies.

00:26:21.000 See, there's some good applause.

00:26:25.000 But they're directly tied together.

00:26:27.000 And so for those of us that are fighting for life, we must also, and I know it's a tough battle.

00:26:31.000 We're up against huge things.

00:26:33.000 It's not easy, right?

00:26:34.000 It's not the popular thing to go into a sex ed class in high school and say, you know, save yourself.

00:26:40.000 But that's the truth.

00:26:40.000 And the truth will set you free.

00:26:42.000 And the truth has a way of contending itself when you release it.

00:26:45.000 And so I think we're fooling ourselves if we don't get to some of the root causes of what actually causes the abortion industry to be able to profit and succeed in this country.

00:26:54.000 The second thing of which I am a very outspoken critic of, which is gender dysphoria craze turned into transgenderism. 0.73

00:27:03.000 And so it's very simple.

00:27:04.000 God created man, God created woman. 1.00

00:27:05.000 Every Christian should agree with this.

00:27:07.000 Don't overcomplicate it.

00:27:08.000 We should not readjust society for a small group of people that are suffering from a very real mental disorder.

00:27:14.000 And I don't say that lightly.

00:27:15.000 I'm not trivializing it.

00:27:16.000 It's a very real thing.

00:27:18.000 If you suffer or you know people that suffer from gender dysphoria, they should get counseling. 0.99

00:27:22.000 They should get medical treatment.

00:27:23.000 Instead, we've decided to say, well, that's who they think they are.

00:27:27.000 That's their identity.

00:27:28.000 First of all, your identity is in Christ.

00:27:29.000 Let's be very clear.

00:27:31.000 Your identity is in your connection to the transcendent.

00:27:34.000 And if you are somehow confused in how God made you, there are healing steps that you can take to solve that.

00:27:40.000 You know what the problem is?

00:27:41.000 The problem is we say, you know what, you're exactly right.

00:27:43.000 You might be a dolphin.

00:27:44.000 You might be a woman. 0.99

00:27:45.000 You might be a giraffe. 0.57

00:27:47.000 It's whoever you think it is.

00:27:48.000 This is a very important point.

00:27:49.000 We as Christians must get back into the truth argument.

00:27:52.000 The truth is not what you want it to be.

00:27:54.000 The truth is the truth.

00:27:55.000 A is A, as Aristotle would say.

00:27:57.000 God is real and you are not him.

00:28:00.000 And you do not get to all of a sudden say, well, it's my truth.

00:28:02.000 There is no such thing as your truth.

00:28:04.000 There's only the truth.

00:28:05.000 And in a college campus, you go to a college campus, they'll say, well, I'll tell you what, you know, you get to kind of have your own journey in your own way, whatever makes you feel.

00:28:14.000 And this is one of my biggest critiques of Christianity, is that feelings comes from a Greek word pathos, right?

00:28:20.000 And we've always in the scriptures, there's an underemphasis on pathos, always, because your feelings can mislead you.

00:28:26.000 And I think all of us know that if you get into kind of a road rage type incident, that's not your feelings leading you to good and terrific things.

00:28:34.000 Instead, God gave us the spirit of the Lord to be able to have what?

00:28:38.000 Self-control.

00:28:39.000 Self-control is a fruit of the spirit.

00:28:41.000 And we must understand that just because you feel a certain way does not make you that certain way.

00:28:45.000 Just because you feel as if the laws of gravity can go into suspense does not make it so.

00:28:50.000 And therefore, we as Christians must be very clear that men should go in the men's locker room, girls should go in the girls' locker room, and men should never compete in female sports. 0.93

00:29:00.000 End of story.

00:29:00.000 Call me whatever you want.

00:29:01.000 It's that simple.

00:29:04.000 And let me also tell you, though, what just happened in Loudoun County, Virginia.

00:29:10.000 Has anyone seen what just happened in Lowdy County, Virginia?

00:29:12.000 It's unbelievable what just happened.

00:29:14.000 And we were always told that, oh, you must be tolerant.

00:29:17.000 And again, here's like a thought crime.

00:29:19.000 I really don't care.

00:29:21.000 Aristotle, who's like the man, he was awesome, he said that tolerance and apathy are the two characteristics of a dying society.

00:29:29.000 I need to think about that.

00:29:31.000 Should we be tolerant of evil?

00:29:32.000 That's a very interesting question.

00:29:33.000 Of course not.

00:29:34.000 Most Christians say, well, we must be tolerant of all things.

00:29:37.000 That is not true.

00:29:38.000 What is love?

00:29:39.000 And I'm sure you guys get this sermon quite often.

00:29:41.000 Love is not, I can't, the English language, I got a lot of problems with English, okay?

00:29:45.000 No, seriously.

00:29:46.000 You guys have heard this many times.

00:29:47.000 There's four words in Greek for love, eros, agape, storge, and phileo.

00:29:51.000 There's more than that, actually.

00:29:52.000 Those are the four that are reflected in the scriptures.

00:29:54.000 Phileo, brotherly love, Philadelphia, city of brotherly love, storge, mother, father, mother, daughter, or mother, son-type love, or a parental child-type love that is storge.

00:30:06.000 And then eros, romantic type love, a love that you have for your romantic partner.

00:30:10.000 And finally, agape, which is sacrificial or replacement love.

00:30:13.000 And so in John 3, 16, it does not say, for God so eros to the world, for God so phileoed the world, or for God so storgeed the world.

00:30:20.000 It's for God so agape the world.

00:30:22.000 He cared so much that he wanted to bring his own son in replacement for you, sacrificially laying down his life so that you might live free.

00:30:29.000 But the ultimate act of love is not tolerating evil.

00:30:32.000 It is telling the truth.

00:30:33.000 And I will prove it to you.

00:30:34.000 If any of you have gone to the doctor, you want the facts.

00:30:37.000 You want them quickly.

00:30:37.000 You want them honestly.

00:30:38.000 You want them delivered clearly.

00:30:40.000 If you have a tumor, if you have a bad diagnosis, you don't want to be loved in a sense where they cover up what is true.

00:30:46.000 The way to truly love somebody is to look them straight in the eyes and tell them what they're doing wrong.

00:30:51.000 We as Christians have gotten away from this.

00:30:53.000 We say, well, loving people means that we must just accommodate ourselves to everything to the rest of the world.

00:30:58.000 Now, of course, we're all sinners, obviously, and there are three different types of sin.

00:31:02.000 There are private sin, there's a secret sin, private sin, and public sin.

00:31:06.000 And so you'll never know somebody's secret sin.

00:31:08.000 But if somehow a close friend of yours is repeatedly revealing themselves in secret sin, you have a moral obligation as a Christian to correct them back into alignment.

00:31:17.000 And if you have a friend that is engaging in public sin that is saying, you know what?

00:31:21.000 I'm an abortion doctor and I'm proud of it.

00:31:23.000 You have a moral obligation to go to them and say, you understand what you're doing, right?

00:31:26.000 This is a life and that, and you might lose that relationship.

00:31:28.000 And I use that example because it's so extreme.

00:31:31.000 And of course you would do that.

00:31:32.000 And so the question is, we as Christians, are we willing to embrace how Jesus loved us?

00:31:38.000 He told us the truth.

00:31:40.000 Jesus told us that if you do not follow me, eternal damnation.

00:31:44.000 It says in Luke 15, I did not come here to unite the world, but to divide the world, to turn father against son, to turn brother against brother.

00:31:51.000 That's a harsh teaching.

00:31:52.000 Jesus said that the road to heaven, I'm paraphrasing, is very few.

00:31:57.000 That's true, though.

00:31:59.000 That is a truthful teaching.

00:32:00.000 And then the final thing that I'll say, the final thing that Christians should all be able to agree on, and this is kind of more illuminated in the last year and a half since we actually had this wonderful gathering, which is I'm guessing why we got postponed, which is why the church should never be forced to shut down again while abortion clinics, marijuana stores, and strip clubs remain open.

00:32:19.000 Ever.

00:32:23.000 Three things.

00:32:24.000 When does life begin?

00:32:25.000 We're going to protect it.

00:32:27.000 God created man, God created woman. 1.00

00:32:29.000 And finally, the church will never be shut down again.

00:32:31.000 Those are very three simple things every Christian should fight for at every single level.

00:32:35.000 If I had to add a fourth, it would be care about the education of your children and the education around you.

00:32:41.000 I mean, education comes from a Latin word, which means to lead forth.

00:32:44.000 We need to lead children forth into light, forth into the goodness of the gospel, forth into truth.

00:32:49.000 And so many people are saying, Charlie, so what can we do?

00:32:53.000 What is the right way to go forward?

00:32:56.000 I'll tell you the thing that irritates me most when people come up to me.

00:32:58.000 They say, Charlie, how's it going out there?

00:33:01.000 Like a running back for the Detroit Lions or something?

00:33:01.000 I say, what am I?

00:33:06.000 No, I'm not.

00:33:10.000 Huh?

00:33:12.000 You don't like them?

00:33:16.000 Oh, they always lose.

00:33:18.000 Okay, that would be wise.

00:33:20.000 At least I didn't like pick the Packers.

00:33:21.000 I don't think you guys like them here either, right?

00:33:24.000 What state am I in?

00:33:25.000 I was like, I've never been booed when I use that.

00:33:27.000 Anyway, the point is that usually that's like accommodating.

00:33:32.000 Whatever.

00:33:33.000 So the point is that we view politics too often as a spectator sport.

00:33:41.000 No matter what chair you sit in, no matter what special jersey you wear, no matter waking up on Thanksgiving morning, hoping the Lions will win, which they won't.

00:33:48.000 See?

00:33:48.000 And I'm playing along.

00:33:49.000 Okay, good.

00:33:51.000 No matter what you do, it doesn't make a difference. 1.00

00:33:54.000 That kind of karmic energy is all garbage. 0.98

00:33:56.000 Let me tell you what does make a difference. 0.97

00:33:57.000 What does make a difference is when you watch politics on TV, you can actually impact that outcome.

00:34:03.000 So you have to retrain your mind.

00:34:05.000 You got to retrain your mind to no longer be a spectator, but be a participant.

00:34:08.000 It's the man in the arena who counts.

00:34:11.000 And so let me close with this.

00:34:13.000 I promise it's the last thing I'm going to say, okay?

00:34:15.000 And I also want to make a shameless plug.

00:34:17.000 I want to thank those of you that listen to our podcast every single day and support us.

00:34:21.000 Deeply appreciate it.

00:34:23.000 You guys can find our podcast on every single phone.

00:34:25.000 It blesses us if you were to subscribe to it.

00:34:28.000 Charlie Kirk Show, we do two podcasts today, one on Saturday, one on Sunday.

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00:34:37.000 The greatest man to live in the 20th century was Winston Churchill.

00:34:40.000 He was courageous.

00:34:41.000 He was a statesman.

00:34:41.000 He was clear.

00:34:42.000 He was prudent.

00:34:43.000 He knew what he was doing.

00:34:44.000 And he knew what it took to actually save Western society.

00:34:46.000 There was only one man that was smiling on the morning of December 7th, 1941, the day after Pearl Harbor, or the day of Pearl Harbor.

00:34:53.000 And that was, that was Churchill.

00:34:55.000 He was smiling.

00:34:56.000 He goes into the cabinet, and his entire war cabinet says, Mr. Churchill, why are you smiling?

00:35:00.000 Why are you so gleeful?

00:35:01.000 He has a cigar and whiskey in his hand, and he gets challenged by one person in the war cabinet.

00:35:06.000 They said, How could you be so happy?

00:35:08.000 We just barely got our troops out of Dunkirk.

00:35:10.000 The Nazis are bombing us every night.

00:35:11.000 They just bombed a hospital.

00:35:13.000 We are losing 30 Royal Air Force planes a night.

00:35:16.000 How could you be so cheerful?

00:35:17.000 And Churchill takes a sip of his whiskey and a puff of his cigar and he says, ah, I've studied the Americans.

00:35:22.000 I know them very well.

00:35:23.000 Once they awaken, there's nothing they cannot do.

00:35:27.000 And I'm telling you, once we wake up, everybody, we are going to win.

00:35:30.000 God bless you guys.

00:35:31.000 Thanks so much.

00:35:32.000 Charlie Kirk, everyone.

00:35:39.000 Well, I'm going to take the liberty as the MC to ask the first question.

00:35:43.000 COVID, go.

00:35:44.000 No, okay, no, that's not it.

00:35:47.000 I've asked in prior years, and I think this question pertains more now than ever.

00:35:52.000 How is it that you combat an ideology of hate without becoming hateful yourself?

00:36:00.000 Whomever wants to take that one.

00:36:02.000 Yeah, sure.

00:36:03.000 I think it's all about making sure that you know why you're fighting.

00:36:08.000 I talk about that all the time.

00:36:09.000 People need to identify what is the reason that they're fighting.

00:36:12.000 And yes, it is an ideology that is routed in hate, but the reasons that I fight, I'm always inspired by things.

00:36:18.000 I'm moved because of love, I guess is the best way to say it.

00:36:21.000 And many people I know in this room and all across the world know the story of my grandfather.

00:36:25.000 And I'm motivated by hope and I'm motivated by love and I'm motivated by a belief that we actually can fix things.

00:36:32.000 So I think you do see people, particularly in politics, that get boggled down.

00:36:36.000 They very easily become what they hate.

00:36:39.000 And it's usually because they've lost sight of why it is that they're fighting.

00:36:43.000 And it has to be a constant reminder.

00:36:45.000 It can't be something that in the beginning I started fighting because of this and now I've ended somewhere else.

00:36:50.000 You have to plug out and plug into the things that matter and remember the reasons that you got started in the first place.

00:36:56.000 That means spending more time with your family, spending more time in meditation, spending more time in prayer and turning your phone off.

00:37:03.000 We are meant to rest.

00:37:04.000 The Bible talks about rest.

00:37:05.000 It talks about the Sabbath.

00:37:06.000 There's a meaning for that.

00:37:07.000 There's wisdom in that.

00:37:08.000 So faith, hope, and love?

00:37:09.000 I think I've heard that someplace.

00:37:13.000 I have a question for you.

00:37:14.000 How did you break into public speaking?

00:37:17.000 And what would you advise for somebody who's just starting into public speaking?

00:37:27.000 I mean, the only reason that, well, first, I was trained as a public speaker by Planned Parenthood.

00:37:33.000 So thanks to Planned Parenthood for that.

00:37:37.000 They're actually great media trainers.

00:37:41.000 Secondly, the only reason that I even have a platform today is because of Planned Parenthood, because they sued me.

00:37:51.000 Because they took me to court.

00:37:54.000 But I mean, I would say that I, I mean, I guess I have a different story because I sort of was shot into the media because of that lawsuit.

00:38:09.000 And so I guess I sort of have a different story.

00:38:12.000 But, you know, I think, you know, it's sort of hit or miss.

00:38:17.000 I mean, the media just sort of picks up on things sort of just as they do.

00:38:21.000 But I think that it's, I tell people all the time, many people have a story.

00:38:27.000 Many people in here have a story.

00:38:29.000 And I think that all of our stories are important to share with someone.

00:38:35.000 And I think especially surrounding abortion, there are so many people.

00:38:39.000 The pro-life movement is made up of converts.

00:38:42.000 And so many of us have stories to share about whether we were people who laid on that table and had abortions or we drove someone to the clinic and paid for an abortion or whatever it was.

00:38:53.000 And as long as we keep those stories in, Satan controls them.

00:38:57.000 And so I think sharing our stories, sharing our experience is a very important part of the human condition and who we are.

00:39:04.000 And so I think sharing, you know, starting small is important and sharing with your local community is important.

00:39:11.000 Sharing with your family, sharing with your local church is a great way to start.

00:39:16.000 Not everybody is going to have, you know, what we have up here.

00:39:23.000 And let me tell you something, you don't want it necessarily.

00:39:28.000 But, you know, it's certainly a calling.

00:39:32.000 And I would just say, you know, follow that calling and God will continue to open doors as he sees fit.

00:39:41.000 I didn't seek it out.

00:39:43.000 It sought me out, unfortunately.

00:39:47.000 I've told this story before about that scenario in front of the Supreme Court building where, you know, I was more or less accosted just because of what I was wearing.

00:39:55.000 And I knew at that moment that I better get in the game.

00:40:00.000 And I knew by virtue of the call as a pastor that I already had a box, in a sense, to stand on.

00:40:07.000 And I already had, by God's grace, his word of God, which is the truth.

00:40:11.000 So in one sense, there was no fear of going into it.

00:40:14.000 But at the same time, there has to be a recognition that it's not something that I think as a pastor, I'm speaking maybe from a pastoral perspective, we're not looking for it.

00:40:25.000 It can't be a self-promotion kind of thing.

00:40:28.000 It's something that will find you, and God will provide for you, as he promises, those opportunities to be who it is that you are as his called servant, to speak faithfully.

00:40:38.000 It just so happens that by doing that, God has seen fit to, at least for this congregation, to bring to us folks who want to who are in alignment with this, who want to move the ball down the field, who want to do these things.

00:40:53.000 And we're so grateful to have those partnerships.

00:40:56.000 But again, on the other hand, even as Abby just said, I don't, you know, I don't appreciate sometimes the things that come with, you know, speaking publicly.

00:41:07.000 I mean, being on lists, you know, from folks in the government here in Michigan, it can be a struggle.

00:41:14.000 Whenever I go to D.C., I get spit on.

00:41:16.000 I mean, that's the way that that also is part of it, too.

00:41:20.000 So in the end, faithfulness, humility, keeping your eyes on the fact that Christ is your identity, as has been said by others here on the stage, and know that God's going to use you where he needs you in these arenas.

00:41:34.000 Just be ready to speak and be faithful.

00:41:38.000 John Smith from Hillsdale County Republican Party.

00:41:41.000 I'm also with AuditMI.org.

00:41:44.000 And my friends and I are spearheading the forensic audit in the state of Michigan.

00:41:51.000 Thank you.

00:41:54.000 My question is: with several states that are trying to attempt to do this forensic audit, we are running into some roadblocks, if you will.

00:42:04.000 And a lot of that roadblock, be honest with you, is with resourcing, being able to actually let people know that this is going on, finance.

00:42:13.000 Just a petition alone costs $3 million in the state of Michigan.

00:42:17.000 The audit itself is going to cost well over $6 million.

00:42:20.000 These are things that we're going to be running into.

00:42:23.000 Is there a way for people that are doing these type of things to not necessarily ask for money directly?

00:42:30.000 We're looking for teaching Amanda Fish, if you will, because a lot of us on the team don't have the experience of marketing or different things of that nature.

00:42:38.000 We need to share these type of resources if possible.

00:42:41.000 And I was wondering if that's something that we could do here.

00:42:45.000 Yeah, so in Arizona, where I live now, and we did do an audit, we found that there are anywhere between 55,000 to 70,000 illegally administered ballots.

00:42:55.000 And that's just the beginning of the audit findings, not to mention all the other laws that were broken in the sequence of it.

00:43:01.000 So I'm a big audit guy.

00:43:02.000 And let me be very clear: an audit is not a recount.

00:43:05.000 The media conflates them all the time.

00:43:07.000 An audit is not just putting the ballots in the right tray of kind of what it says.

00:43:12.000 It's going ballot by ballot and seeing if it references voter registration databases, if they were administered correctly.

00:43:19.000 And so in Arizona, it was all privately funded.

00:43:21.000 I don't really know who.

00:43:22.000 I read some news reports about it.

00:43:24.000 But here's the short of it.

00:43:25.000 In Arizona, it should have been funded by the legislature.

00:43:29.000 And in Michigan, I would put your attention on getting the Michigan legislature to try to fund it.

00:43:34.000 I don't know if that's realistic or not.

00:43:36.000 You guys can come up with that conclusion yourself.

00:43:39.000 And then the second is the Republican Party of the state should chip in and should try to raise money.

00:43:43.000 That would give it credibility.

00:43:45.000 They have donor lists.

00:43:46.000 They have kind of visibility there.

00:43:48.000 But you need to audit your elections, everybody, especially here in Michigan.

00:43:53.000 And like, forget, like, there's two different types of categories.

00:43:55.000 You'll find out ballots that should not have been counted.

00:43:58.000 And then you'll find laws that were broken in the counting of the ballots, which is the administration of actually the election itself.

00:44:05.000 I just want to encourage you, though, that auditing these elections in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia are so incredibly important.

00:44:12.000 And you can see how important by how the media is trying to smear these efforts.

00:44:25.000 I have a two-part question about our public school system.

00:44:29.000 First one is, is there any difference between what was and is happening in our universities and what's happening in our public schools today?

00:44:38.000 And how pervasive are organizations like Planned Parenthood in our public schools today?

00:44:45.000 They're incredibly pervasive.

00:44:48.000 Planned Parenthood is deliberately trying to get into every single public school in the United States.

00:44:55.000 And unfortunately, they are funded by the public school systems in our country.

00:45:03.000 And like I said earlier, their goal is to get into kindergarten.

00:45:08.000 Their sex education starts in kindergarten.

00:45:12.000 And so with the Title 10 now being refunded, Title X clinics are, or Title X funds at Planned Parenthood are primarily used for teen clinics because Title X funds do not require parental consent.

00:45:30.000 And so Trump had defunded Planned Parenthood from Title 10 money.

00:45:34.000 Now Biden, of course, has refunded abortion facilities to receive Title 10.

00:45:40.000 So what Planned Parenthood uses that money for is for primarily teen clinics.

00:45:44.000 So what does that mean?

00:45:45.000 That means that now Planned Parenthood can go into a public school system.

00:45:51.000 They can open up a clinic inside of a public junior high and a public high school.

00:45:58.000 And so that means that our kids can get on birth control starting at 10, 11, 12 years old.

00:46:05.000 They can get on a birth control that has a high human error rate.

00:46:09.000 Now, I'm not a fan of birth control anyway, but just stay with me here.

00:46:12.000 They can get on a birth control method that has a high human error rate, knowing that Guttmacher already says their own research arm already says that 54% of women who have abortions were using contraception at the time that they got pregnant.

00:46:27.000 Okay.

00:46:27.000 So they're putting them on a birth control method that they know is going to fail intentionally.

00:46:32.000 Because remember, I already told you guys that their ideal client is going to have three abortions by the time that they're 25, right?

00:46:39.000 This is where they start.

00:46:41.000 They start in the public schools.

00:46:42.000 So absolutely, part of their business model is to get into the school starting in kindergarten.

00:46:47.000 They're going to break down their natural modesty.

00:46:50.000 They're going to start showing your kids sex positions with stuffed animals by the time they're in first grade.

00:46:56.000 They're going to start breaking apart the family dynamics. 0.92

00:46:58.000 They're going to start telling your kids, your parents are antiquated.

00:47:01.000 You don't want to go to them when you start having questions about sex.

00:47:04.000 You want to come to me.

00:47:05.000 This is all part of their business model.

00:47:08.000 And guys, it's working.

00:47:10.000 It is working.

00:47:11.000 And so all the time, you know, people are saying, oh, well, I know the solution.

00:47:15.000 I'm just going to homeschool my kid.

00:47:16.000 I'm just going to pull my kid out of school.

00:47:18.000 I'm just going to put my kids in private school.

00:47:20.000 And that's great.

00:47:22.000 You know what?

00:47:22.000 That is part of the solution.

00:47:25.000 But that is not the solution.

00:47:27.000 Because guess what?

00:47:28.000 There are kids that are still sitting in public schools that need to be protected from these predators.

00:47:34.000 They need to be protected from these grooming efforts of Planned Parenthood and other abortion entities that are going into our private school. 0.98

00:47:42.000 Who is going back for them?

00:47:44.000 It's got to be us.

00:47:46.000 It has to be you.

00:47:47.000 You can't just pluck your kid out of public school and go, oh, protected my kid. 0.99

00:47:53.000 Screw you guys. 0.99

00:47:54.000 You can't do that. 0.97

00:47:56.000 You have to go back and you have to protect those other kids.

00:47:59.000 And so just because all eight of my kids are going to go to a private school, seven of my kids currently go to a private Catholic school.

00:48:08.000 But you know what?

00:48:09.000 When it's time, when I need to go to a SHAC meeting in Texas, when I need to go to a school board meeting in Texas, guess who's there?

00:48:16.000 Me.

00:48:17.000 Charlie didn't even have kids.

00:48:19.000 And he didn't even have kids yet.

00:48:21.000 And he was at a school board meeting in Arizona.

00:48:24.000 Okay.

00:48:24.000 So we have to do the job.

00:48:28.000 We have to show up at these school board meetings and we have to protect these other kids whose parents aren't showing up to protect them.

00:48:39.000 I didn't want to consider more of this candidate.

00:48:43.000 I just wanted to go back to answering your question.

00:48:45.000 The answer is no.

00:48:46.000 I think you were asking if there's a difference between the university level and the public school system.

00:48:51.000 And no, they're both state-funded and state-controlled by the government.

00:48:55.000 And I would encourage people to read a book called Inside the Education System.

00:49:01.000 It was written by Thomas Sowell, and he really will help you understand how Planned Parenthood infiltrated and when this sex education began and how it was really built upon a lie.

00:49:14.000 A lie meaning that the idea that kids were all just doing it when in fact they weren't, the rates of children that were graduating with their virginity in the 70s was the majority until they invoked sex education.

00:49:25.000 And it's really, you really kind of have to understand how it was engineered if you ever want to make an effort to reverse engineer.

00:49:32.000 And to add on to what Abby was saying, I want, and I want to go back to the idea that I do think that change does start in the home and primary individual basis, family to family.

00:49:42.000 So do what you can to pull your children out before you turn to the community.

00:49:47.000 Once you have, you know, successfully protected your child, we as Christians should always go into the community and do what we can to help our neighbors who may be existing under these same delusions.

00:49:58.000 I do not think that there is a path forward in which the public education system can be transformed.

00:50:05.000 You know, I have been a passionate advocate alongside Charlie for years for the abolishment of the Department of Education.

00:50:17.000 And, you know, I've been looking in Tennessee at micro schools, which is something that people should be familiar with, and really going back to the beginning, which began with homeschools on a parent-to-parent basis.

00:50:27.000 Again, the individuals looking up with the neighborhoods and the community establishing networks that work to raise up children the right way.

00:50:34.000 Great.

00:50:36.000 Good.

00:50:36.000 I just want to add a positive note.

00:50:38.000 The homeschooling population has doubled in the last 18 months in this country.

00:50:46.000 Okay, I have a specific question for you, Ammy.

00:50:51.000 This is about your, I know you reach out to pregnancy resource centers and, you know, with your ministries and such.

00:50:59.000 Do testing for STIs and STDs lower abortion rates?

00:51:06.000 The free testing that centers can do.

00:51:10.000 Is that reaching the abortion-minded women?

00:51:12.000 Is it actually helping to promote the pro-life values?

00:51:16.000 Yeah, so yeah, that is a great question.

00:51:19.000 And yeah, we have found some evidence that shows that that actually does help.

00:51:25.000 So, you know, it's all risky behavior, right?

00:51:30.000 So, and that's why Planned Parenthood does not offer gunnery and chlamydia tests because they care about the STD rates in your community, okay?

00:51:39.000 They offer SCD testing because they want to have that first touch point experience with people in their community that are participating in risky behavior.

00:51:49.000 Okay, this is part of their plan.

00:51:51.000 So, if you are participating in risky sexual behavior, what are you statistically, what are you more likely to experience later in life?

00:51:59.000 An unplanned pregnancy, right?

00:52:02.000 And Marketing 101 is going to tell you that if you've already had that first touch point experience with Planned Parenthood for your STD test, where are you going to go back to when you have that unplanned pregnancy?

00:52:12.000 Planned Parenthood, where you had that first touch point experience.

00:52:15.000 That's why they provide STD testing, okay?

00:52:18.000 It's not because they care about your STD rates.

00:52:20.000 So, the purpose of pregnancy resource centers offering those services early on is so that they can have that first touch point experience with that woman.

00:52:31.000 So, there has been some data to show that if we can intercept those clients early on, and if we can start talking to those women and men early on, and we can help curtail that risky behavior, that number one, not only will we help reduce the unintended pregnancy rate, because really, if you want to reduce crisis pregnancies, then you've got to reduce the crisis pregnancy rate, right?

00:52:58.000 So, you've got to, you've got to say, I mean, if you want to reduce abortions, you've got to reduce the crisis pregnancy rate, right?

00:53:04.000 So, you just make it so that people aren't getting pregnant. 0.88

00:53:08.000 And so, you've got to intervene at that moment, that earlier moment.

00:53:12.000 And so, that's what some of the research is saying: that like we want to get to them before the crisis pregnancy even occurs.

00:53:19.000 One of the ways to do that is to intervene during the risky behavior.

00:53:23.000 And that's what the STD testing is allowing people to do.

00:53:29.000 I'm sorry, if we can just leave it to one person, we got a really finite amount of time.

00:53:33.000 Thank you.

00:53:41.000 I wanted to speak to all of you about what I've seen in the latest legislative session in Texas.

00:53:49.000 So, we had about eight or nine abortion-related bills, and all of them made it through except for one, House Bill 3326 by Brian Slaying.

00:54:02.000 So, I met with Mr. Slaying personally, and for some reason, his bill never passed committee because his bill would actually abolish abortion.

00:54:11.000 So, what I wanted to bring to your attention is there's a game going on with the pro-life movement.

00:54:19.000 So, they're pushing bills that regulate abortion, but never end it.

00:54:24.000 House Bill 3326 would have actually ended it. 0.67

00:54:27.000 And Stephanie Click, the committee chairwoman, we spoke to her staff.

00:54:33.000 They supposedly didn't have time for it or they were busy with the other bills.

00:54:37.000 So, I think you guys with the platform, the followers you have, can maybe address the game that's going on.

00:54:45.000 These pro-life organizations are really just in it for the money, in my opinion.

00:54:49.000 So, there's a group of abolitionists, abolished abortion in Texas, Freedom States, and Oklahoma.

00:54:55.000 So, I think this needs to be brought to your attention.

00:54:57.000 Me, one person I can tell everybody, but you guys can maybe, especially Abby, you're in Texas, just like I am.

00:55:03.000 I don't know if you supported that bill or if somehow you'd be willing to meet with Mr. Slayton.

00:55:10.000 He's a freshman.

00:55:11.000 He's in his first term, so he hasn't been corrupted yet, is the way I see it.

00:55:15.000 So, just want to see if somehow you guys can help out and get this thing done because all we're doing is regulating it right now.

00:55:22.000 Well, I think we're probably gonna have to look into what specifically what you're talking about.

00:55:25.000 So, thank you for the information because I think we'd all have to just actually look into exactly what you're talking about.

00:55:29.000 That was very specific information.

00:55:31.000 Oh, yes, the abolition of abortion and equal protection for the unborn act.

00:55:37.000 Okay, thank you very much.

00:55:39.000 And the indicted committee.

00:55:40.000 So, I was just bringing to everybody's attention.

00:55:42.000 Thank you.

00:55:43.000 You're welcome.

00:55:46.000 Hi, thanks for coming.

00:55:48.000 I have a question.

00:55:50.000 So, we're here, and I go to a lot of these faith-based presentations, and I follow all you people here.

00:55:58.000 But I have a question.

00:55:59.000 Most of my work, I'm a businesswoman, and most of my clients are Jewish.

00:56:06.000 I have one that I've become particularly close with, and she has said to me, I am so disappointed in the Jewish community.

00:56:14.000 She said, I feel like I'm hiding in plain sight that they're not seeing through all this.

00:56:22.000 And I'm obviously Christian, so I don't have very much experience.

00:56:27.000 I just, can you guys give me a little bit of something that I can share with her to help her in the community that she's a part of?

00:56:38.000 I was thinking it was going to be Charlie.

00:56:40.000 I was joking.

00:56:41.000 I said, tell her to read the Torah. 0.73

00:56:43.000 I mean, like, it's, I mean, look, it's very simple.

00:56:45.000 The more religious the Jew is, the more conservative they are. 0.90

00:56:48.000 The less religious the Jew is, the more liberal they are. 0.99

00:56:50.000 And it's not, you don't have to overcomplicate it.

00:56:52.000 Dennis Prager has the greatest commentary on this, I think, of anyone.

00:56:56.000 And yes, it's incredibly frustrating for people that, you know, that are supposed to be believers in the law, then are, you know, as the Torah as an ultimate value, kind of like the Jewish, the big Jewish big three values are God, Torah, Israel. 0.78

00:57:13.000 And they have a party or they support a party overwhelmingly that doesn't read the Torah, hates Israel, and doesn't believe in God.

00:57:20.000 It's incredibly frustrating.

00:57:21.000 So I agree with you.

00:57:23.000 And I have nothing but accompaniment in your confusion.

00:57:27.000 That's pretty good.

00:57:34.000 I am a pro-life warrior.

00:57:37.000 I'm also a known domestic terrorist in my community.

00:57:41.000 I did pull my kids from school and I'm homeschooling them.

00:57:45.000 And Abby, you just took the words out of my mouth and you said that.

00:57:49.000 And I've been trying to say to my Christian friends that even if you pull your kids from school and even if you put them in the private schools, I equate it to the same thing as defending all those lives at the abortion clinic. 0.59

00:57:59.000 The us parents still need to go to the school board meetings and defend those children that are helpless to stand up for them.

00:58:06.000 But my question to you, Abby, is with being a pro-life warrior and going to the abortion clinics and going to Planned Parenthood, we're able to stop them from getting the abortion pill there and we're able to do side-ruck counseling there.

00:58:18.000 But I'm concerned about what you just shared today because I was unaware of that, that they were able to do these appointments online and to be able to get these medications from the other countries.

00:58:28.000 Is there anything that we can do or anything that you know of that I can take back to my ministry to be able to combat that in any way?

00:58:36.000 Like, how do we reach those women that are getting the medication in that form? 1.00

00:58:41.000 Okay, so yeah, I mean, because this is a new battle, because we're on like a new front here with the medication abortion and the online accessibility of medication abortion, the only way that we can fight this is through the internet.

00:58:56.000 So we can fight this through Google AdWords, we can fight this through geofencing.

00:59:02.000 So that takes a lot of money.

00:59:04.000 Okay, so pregnancy centers are really our best defense in this regard. 0.92

00:59:11.000 So pregnancy, I don't know if you're, do you work with your local pregnancy center at all?

00:59:16.000 A little not very much.

00:59:17.000 So what I would do is I would try to partner up with them.

00:59:20.000 I would find out what they're doing.

00:59:23.000 What are they doing with Google AdWords?

00:59:25.000 Do they have an active Google AdWord campaign?

00:59:28.000 How much are they funding it?

00:59:30.000 Generally, to have a successful Google Ad Camp, and this is just FYI, to have a successful Google AdWord campaign to fight medication abortion, online medication abortion, they need to be paying at least about $30,000 to $40,000 a year.

00:59:49.000 Okay.

00:59:50.000 And that's minimum what they need to be paying to fight this.

00:59:54.000 It's a lot of money.

00:59:56.000 It's expensive, but lives are on the line.

00:59:59.000 And this is the only way that we can fight it.

01:00:01.000 You know, I mean, this is not, yes, we've got to go out to the clinics because yes, we've got to still be there for those surgical abortion patients.

01:00:09.000 But over 50% are now receiving abortions online.

01:00:14.000 So this is just a new battle.

01:00:15.000 This is a new frontier.

01:00:17.000 And we're going to have to fight it with money.

01:00:19.000 And the abortion industry, they've got unlimited resources coming from Warren Buffett.

01:00:25.000 And so we've got to, and we have the money.

01:00:29.000 We have the money.

01:00:30.000 We just have to pool it.

01:00:31.000 We have to utilize it.

01:00:33.000 And we have to be strategic with how we use it.

01:00:36.000 We only have a few more minutes, so maybe two quick questions and answers.

01:00:41.000 Hi.

01:00:41.000 I'm so glad I'm here.

01:00:43.000 This is my first time going to a conference.

01:00:45.000 You guys are all amazing.

01:00:47.000 I have like two burning questions, but I know we can only do one.

01:00:50.000 So my first, my one burning question is like, I go to a community college and this is my first year there and I've been homeschooled my whole life.

01:00:59.000 And my question is, how can you reach out to like people and like even teachers who are like really very liberal and have different opinions than you do?

01:01:11.000 And like, how can you like, how can I contradict to what they have to say to help them to come to Christ?

01:01:20.000 You know, I think this goes in line with the question that I was answering earlier.

01:01:24.000 I was talking about how leading by example and standing firm in your truth and standing firm in truth and in righteousness is sometimes enough.

01:01:33.000 And I think one of the things that we sometimes get wrong is expecting immediate results.

01:01:38.000 We want people, it's the truth.

01:01:39.000 Look at it.

01:01:40.000 One plus one equals two.

01:01:41.000 How can you not see that?

01:01:42.000 And we have to realize that what we are combating is an incredible, sinister, well-funded global operation propaganda machine, right?

01:01:51.000 I mean, this is huge.

01:01:53.000 You're combating a brainwash machine that has been decades in the making.

01:01:57.000 It's an information war.

01:01:58.000 There's so much coming at them that they are being told lies over and over and over again.

01:02:02.000 And sometimes telling people the truth is not enough to instantly transform them, but give it time.

01:02:08.000 You know, my transformation story obviously didn't happen overnight.

01:02:11.000 I believed the lies because I was a part of the education system.

01:02:14.000 It starts so early from the second that you step into the public school system.

01:02:17.000 Fortunately for you, you didn't step into the public school system.

01:02:20.000 So they've had...

01:02:21.000 uh, 18 years of being told the lie and telling them the truth is not necessarily going to be immediate um, but I think standing firm in the truth and leading by example, as I said earlier, and showing people um, that the ways that they're invested are not actually bringing them happiness, planting seeds sometimes, is enough, and so I think i've sort of reset my expectations and I think, when i'm in every room uh, every contradictory room rather, every contrarian room uh, how many seeds can I plant today?

01:02:52.000 Right, you may be planting a lot of seeds.

01:02:54.000 Don't get discouraged by the fact that you're not seeing the full plant that's supposed to sprout out.

01:03:00.000 You're welcome.

01:03:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I am sorry to say this is the part of the evening where everybody gets to hate the mc, because I get to give the bad news that our time has come to an end.

01:03:10.000 Can we have one more great big round of applause for all great speakers?

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 30, 2021

Forging Ahead in the Fight for Life with Candace Owens and Abby Johnson

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