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00:03:09.000And Dennis, it is you were at the top of my mind because I was going through some memories, and it's been four years since the lockdown craze.
00:04:14.000And walk through that chapter because we should not forget it.
00:04:20.000It's actually an important question you're asking because if I can explain, and I can, how I arrived at that conclusion, if people adopt this methodology, they're much more likely to find truth because it's very hard today to know what is true.
00:04:42.000So in no order of importance, but I will begin with this.
00:06:36.000So, oh, and by the way, do you remember?
00:06:39.000I mean, this should have been the giveaway, Charlie, when the medical community announced, ah, we don't want anybody to be close to one another, let alone in the tens of thousands.
00:06:51.000But if they're demonstrating against racism, that's a health benefit.
00:07:02.000So number one, I asked the price, right?
00:07:05.000Number two, very long ago, you were probably in kindergarten when I began to, you may not have been bored, actually, when I began to be completely unintimidated by the word expert.
00:07:25.000Generally speaking, experts say triggers in me the following.
00:08:10.000So those were among the things that led me to believe this.
00:08:20.000And by the way, the starvation issue, because I wrote about that, it's like people don't seem to care much about what policies will hurt people in the third world, like all the environmental policy.
00:08:35.000They need cheap energy, just like we did to develop.
00:08:39.000And we're telling them, don't utilize fossil fuel, the cheapest energy that exists while we do.
00:08:46.000And so, Dennis, when you wrote this article, I remember you say that some people attacked you and criticized you because your language was well, people you care about.
00:09:00.000Let's say fellow intellectuals, because you say worst mistake in history.
00:10:25.000There was no equivalent international error like the international error over lockdowns.
00:10:33.000Oh, and by the way, I think I should add there was another factor, but I don't know at what point it became clear to me.
00:10:41.000And this was dispositive for me, Sweden.
00:10:45.000If you'd have told me at any time in my life, I would look to Sweden as the moral model on earth, I would have thought you had been really imbibing a great deal of substance.
00:10:59.000But Sweden, I have to give credit where it is due.
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00:12:27.000So Dennis, I have, as you know, carefully studied and listened to every fireside chat.
00:12:34.000There is a fireside chat a couple years ago.
00:12:37.000I'm looking for the number where, and I'm paraphrasing, and I think you'll allow me to paraphrase, but the essence was that you were bragging on the American medical system.
00:12:46.000In particular, you said that, you know, free markets and competition are good.
00:12:50.000And I know you still believe in that, but you were careful not to criticize the American healthcare system.
00:13:35.000I know how what a man of honesty and integrity he is.
00:13:40.000But the profession writ large, it's been taken over by the left.
00:13:46.000American Medical Association, as I point out all the time, announced a few years ago that no birth certificate should list the sex of a newborn.
00:14:00.000That the AMA has bought the lie, that you're not a boy or a girl when you're born.
00:14:08.000The pediatrics Academy of Pediatrics, I think it's called, how they have gotten on board, mutilating children, hormone blockers at the age of 10, 12.
00:14:25.000The profession has, I'm sure you've seen Charlie.
00:14:30.000Did you see the University of Minnesota Medical School?
00:16:02.000COVID, which I had twice, was much, much less than a bad cold.
00:16:07.000It was less than, I continued broadcasting.
00:16:10.000I don't know how he came to my attention, but this bearded Orthodox Jewish, I think he was also a rabbi, but it doesn't matter, doctor in New York was saving lives.
00:16:25.000I think the vast number of people who came to him with COVID, I think one, literally one, might have died.
00:16:33.000And in the meantime, they were intubating people in hospitals.
00:16:37.000They were having people die with nobody allowed to visit them.
00:18:00.000So when I heard, oh, epidemiologists say this about COVID versus a guy who's saving lives about COVID, who do you think I'm going to believe?
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00:20:06.000So, Dennis, what is so chilling about that clip for me is that I thought for years that the woke, the left, they would not be overly successful in capturing the American medical system because there are built-in defense systems where you have to go where the data leads you.
00:20:28.000But it seems as if no one is immune from the left's takeover.
00:20:43.000My field of study, which I almost now think is sort of divine stroke of good fortune, was leftism.
00:20:52.000I was one of seven students in all of Columbia University to major in what was called communist affairs.
00:20:58.000I learned Russian in order to read the Soviet communist newspaper.
00:21:03.000I went to communist countries regularly.
00:21:06.000And I never, ever dawned on, literally didn't, in other words, I didn't even imagine it, that what I'm learning now about communism will be applicable in the United States of America.
00:21:23.000It just didn't dawn on me anymore than there's an old Jewish saying, if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a trolley car.
00:22:14.000Dennis, reflecting on the last four years since 15 days or so the spread, it was shocking to me how long it took for us to push back against the lockdowns and then the vaccines.
00:22:31.000What did that confirm or teach you about human nature?
00:26:57.000So when the translation of the 10th and the 10 commandments of the third commandment, depending on how you enumerate them, is do not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
00:27:12.000The literal Hebrew is do not lift or carry.
00:27:55.000No, I think the book of Leviticus proves the point that if you're in the administration of the holy, there's different rules and you must be separate.
00:28:17.000When the atheist commits evil, he doesn't destroy the possibility of the good world, which is only available by taking God's morality seriously.
00:28:33.000When the religious person does evil in God's, he not only does the evil, which is bad enough, but he destroys people's ability to take God seriously.
00:30:00.000And so, Dennis, but not everybody loves freedom.
00:30:03.000You make a very astute point that people don't naturally want to be free.
00:30:08.000The Bible makes this point repeatedly, as you have, as you taught me.
00:30:14.000And during the lockdowns, which is an important distinction, lockdowns versus COVID, and they get conflated far too often, we learned that unfortunately in America, we might be past the 50% mark.
00:30:28.000I don't know, where more people will value comfort over liberty.
00:32:06.000Because the more you allow the state to take care of you, the less free a human being you are.
00:32:13.000This country was founded on this rare idea that the individual wants to take care of himself and his family and his community and not have the state take care of him.
00:32:55.000And it's the goal of the leftists and the state to try to weaken parents and to have them not do their job or have to be involved.
00:33:03.000Dennis, to go back to how we started the conversation about your column, the worst mistake in history, you were right.
00:33:12.000And I want to go through the list here.
00:33:14.000And it's the damage that we are going to have to recover from will be multi-generational.
00:33:20.000We don't have to spend too much time on this, but the amount of debt that was incurred because of the lockdowns, anywhere between $10 to $12 trillion in debt, the political issues from mail-in ballots and the distrust of our election system, the economic displacement of the businesses that went under that will never come back, the once great cities that were already tipping, but were completely obliterated, like Seattle and Portland and San Francisco and LA and New York.
00:33:47.000Dennis, I'm confident I could predict how you will answer this, but I want you to humor at least me and our audience.
00:35:03.000Dennis, you predicted that the millennial Gen Z generation will be the most alcohol-addicted, drug-addicted, suicidal, and depressed generation in history, and it will only get worse because of the lockdowns.
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00:39:38.000Dennis, you found great, correctly, a great objection to this line of argumentation that if one person passes away, we all must sit at home.
00:40:29.000As I pointed out then, just to give one simple example, theoretically, if you enforce a 30-mile per hour speed limit on all highway, you will have fewer debt.
00:42:28.000He confirmed my belief that Cubans are unimpressive, but there are some terrific human being individuals.
00:42:36.000So I've been to 130 countries, been abroad every single year since I was 18 years of age, and except for 2020, because it was not possible to do so.
00:42:49.000It was not even easy in 2021, but I went to Hungary and to Slovakia and the Czech Republic to give speeches.
00:42:59.000How I got in is you'll crack up if you need to hear a funny story another time.
00:43:05.000But in my very early travels, I came home and I told my close friend that, you know what?
00:43:15.000I have contempt and compassion for humanity.
00:43:23.000The ease with which people deceive and are deceived, the lack of courage, lack of seriousness, lack of inquiry, the lack of self-control, these don't surprise me.
00:43:40.000So what I saw happening, I'll tell you the only thing that really was sad, really sad, I said that's always true.
00:43:53.000What was really sad was that it was America.
00:43:57.000Charlie, I've had a love affair with this country since my point, since I could really think seriously.
00:45:09.000Number two, I have tremendous amount of happiness in my personal life with my wife, my children, my friends, my religion.
00:45:23.000I have shock absorbers that are really strong and thick.
00:45:29.000And between those two, macro lack of expectations and micro joy, I was able to do it.
00:45:40.000But it's watching this great experiment in human liberty move towards the Soviet model, watching judges act like Soviet judges, saying that a candidate whom they don't like cannot be on a ballot.