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00:01:22.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:04:45.000Jershowitz kind of confirmed what you and I have said in our previous discussions on this.
00:04:51.000She's not going to get a conviction there, but she's going to become famous with the indictment.
00:04:56.000And then we're looking at, you know, Jack Smith and DOJ special prosecutor.
00:05:00.000And it seems obvious based on the fact that he spent seven hours sitting in on the Mike Pence J6 testimony, that he sat in personally on that.
00:05:09.000And then what Julie Kelly has been reporting, it seems obvious to me that he's going to try to get some sort of conspiracy or even possibly, you know, seditious conspiracy charge against President Trump.
00:05:22.000And then the fourth possibility is the Mar-a-Lago documents.
00:05:29.000And he's kind of signaled that he's moving into this idea of did Trump tell AIDS to move boxes?
00:05:36.000There were a couple of Washington Post stories in the last 10 days about moving boxes.
00:05:41.000And there was an implication there that that's an obstruction of justice.
00:05:44.000So yes, to answer your question, we have to be prepared.
00:05:48.000Look, let's not be surprised when this stuff happens.
00:05:51.000He's going to be indicted by Fannie Willis this summer, and Jack Smith is most likely also going to indict before September.
00:05:59.000I hope and pray that, you know, I can't remember if we talked about this last time, but there's no way they can keep Trump in prison pre-trial.
00:06:59.000It was neck and neck and it just ended.
00:07:01.000The question is, can it get neck and neck again, though, Kane, right?
00:07:03.000I mean, if you were to kind of be the DeSantis Brain Trust, you know the base really well, is there a path towards making this competitive again?
00:07:20.000I'm not seeing the desire from the base.
00:07:22.000I see people actually coalescing is the word I'm looking for around Trump, not really looking for other options.
00:07:31.000Yeah, I don't think, you know, I was thinking about this last night and, you know, and DeSantis having 15 days now to fight, you know, to announce officially.
00:07:40.000I don't really know why he's doing it.
00:08:02.000He might, you know, maybe after the Jack Smith indictments, DeSantis may be able to close the, you know, close the numbers by 10 points or so.
00:08:10.000But I, look, the reaction of most people, we've seen it from the Durham stuff, right?
00:08:14.000The reaction is to get pissed off and to dig deeper.
00:08:18.000You know, this is caught, this really, really, on an emotional level, causes people to gravitate more towards Trump.
00:08:41.000All of that money was supporting Trump in 2020 because that was the big deal, right?
00:08:45.000Oh, these former Trump donors are now backing DeSantis.
00:08:48.000So I don't want to criticize DeSantis for that, but he went out, he got money, and I think he's feeling pressure from those groups who are telling him we have to have someone other than Trump.
00:08:58.000And he's feeling pressure, and that that's what's sort of pushing him to announce because the numbers do not show a path.
00:10:28.000And I got the story up from Bobby Kennedy saying Trump is the greatest debater since Lincoln.
00:10:33.000Like, why put if your opportunity to win is so small, if your odds are so low, why risk destroying your reputation and your future in order to take him on?
00:11:29.000We're seeing the kind of corporate media Goliaths go under Vice, this expensive model, and the entrepreneurs, the guys like you that grind at 2 or 3 a.m., the shows like ours that work relentlessly.
00:11:39.000It seems as if we're the ones that are increasing.
00:11:42.000I think this is good for the conservative movement.
00:11:51.000You have to build up a certain level of momentum and reach out there.
00:11:56.000But with Bannon's show, with the success of War Room, with the success of your show, independent media.
00:12:04.000Yeah, look, I mean, if you really want to get into it, Washington Times and Washington Examiner were the two biggest conservative websites 15 years ago.
00:12:12.000They're now both practically forgotten.
00:12:14.000They both do under 20 million page views a month.
00:12:17.000And they've been replaced by, you know, Breitbart, Gateway Pundit, MySight, Daily Wire, a number of, you know, and then, so, yes, in general, it's the rise of independent media.
00:12:30.000It's gaining strength every month, and it's going to help us in 2024, I think.
00:12:34.000And so, how do you think Tucker plays into that?
00:12:36.000You know, you and I have not a chance to dialogue on Tucker.
00:12:39.000The CFP audience, I know, is really fired up on that.
00:12:42.000And look, there's some new news out of Fox News.
00:12:44.000Why don't you share our audience what the news out of Fox News is?
00:12:47.000Well, this is Drudge claiming inside source.
00:12:50.000And Mediaite has decided to repeat it.
00:13:03.000He's claiming that Fox News is shaking up the primetime lineup completely.
00:13:06.000They're going to move Hannity to the 8 p.m. slot where Tucker used to be, and Gutfeld and Jesse Waters will be moved further up after Hannity into primetime.
00:13:17.000Now, when Fox was reached for comment in that Mediaite story, they said that they're still looking at things.
00:13:23.000But it looks like, you know, I think we at least discussed that Fox's ratings are down dramatically.
00:13:58.000I don't want to, I'm not against, you know, I understand why people criticize him, but Hannity does good stuff, but he's not going to replace Tucker at eight o'clock.
00:14:07.000Yeah, and I think Tucker also brought an ideological excitement to the network that was contrarian and really is where the American people are critical of Ukraine involvement.
00:14:18.000Why do we have so many people coming to the country?
00:14:20.000Hey, this vaccine thing is not what we said it was.
00:14:22.000We're going to challenge corporate power.
00:14:23.000And Tucker was unafraid and, of course, ridiculously articulate and just in once in a generation talent.
00:14:30.000So you kind of combine the correct ideological approach, an amazing inquisitive talent with just his ability to write monologues and dialogues.
00:14:41.000So he's going to Twitter or independent media.
00:14:43.000Kane, what does 2024 look like if Tucker is unable to shake his Fox News contract?
00:14:55.000Apparently, none of us know the details for sure, but rumors are leaking out that Fox News did not put Twitter in the non-compete.
00:15:04.000So Tucker may have figured out a way to get paid $20 million a year by Fox, continue the contract, and then run his show on Twitter every night at 8 p.m. opposite Hannity.
00:15:45.000And you have to wonder who's actually going to be able to successfully then and effectively referee this primary, expose whoever the Democrat nominee is, which will likely be Biden and the entire regime.
00:15:58.000We've got to get him back into the arena, and it seems as if there's some lingering contractual issues there, and I hope he can get released soon.
00:17:33.000And, you know, in the previous segment, I was talking about, because I lived through it, and I remember when this was happening to you, the great injustice of the Russia hoax.
00:17:42.000I believe this was a seditious conspiracy.
00:17:44.000But Don, you lived through it in the sense with the Mueller investigation, which was completely unnecessary.
00:17:48.000The lies against you, the Time magazine article and all that.
00:17:51.000Don, what is your kind of reaction to how they tried to destroy your life based on a total, complete fabrication and a lie?
00:18:00.000Well, listen, I think, obviously, I'm upset about it.
00:18:03.000I went through a lot during that period of time.
00:18:16.000And they all knew, and it didn't stop them.
00:18:17.000And then, you know, then you get to the lesser things like millions and millions and millions of dollars on legal fees and getting dragged through the mud and the social and societal stuff that comes along with that kind of stuff.
00:18:28.000But if you've been watching the way the left, the deep state, the uni party, if you watch the way that they behave and function, none of this should surprise anyone.
00:18:37.000And what should really surprise no one is that absolutely nothing will happen to these people.
00:18:53.000He's going to go to jail for 10 years for a meme for disinformation.
00:18:58.000But the leader of the FBI, people from the CIA, the same people who lied before Congress, whether it's Strzok and those guys, McCabe, lied before Cotton.
00:19:08.000Not only do they not have consequences, Charlie, they get jobs at CNN and MSDNC.
00:20:55.000He's not, you've seen, you know, sort of the billionaire donors that don't exactly want what the MABA base wants, try to abandon him and these sorts of things.
00:21:04.000He's the one guy that can burn it all down to the ground because that's what has to happen, Charlie.
00:21:23.000And that's not money to benefit the American people.
00:21:26.000That's money in the pockets of these people, these players.
00:21:29.000That's why they're playing the game that way.
00:21:31.000And again, when they're constantly rewarded, despite being bad actors, despite if they were conservatives, if they were a small guy that wasn't part of the club, they'd be in jail.
00:21:42.000But the fact that nothing's going to happen to them, that this report gets slowrolled, I mean, we knew all this information five years ago, Charlie.
00:22:23.000They're laughing their asses off at us, Charlie, because they get the win.
00:22:27.000You know, a couple of years later, you know, there's been exactly zero mainstream coverage of the Durham report, of the conclusions that we all knew.
00:22:36.000Didn't stop them from doing any of these things.
00:22:38.000And it's not going to stop them again because, again, they continually, they're rewarded for these kinds of behaviors.
00:22:45.000And in fact, they are more emboldened than ever before.
00:22:48.000And so, look, we got 2024 in front of us, Don.
00:22:52.000It feels as if, I must feel for you, Don, you've had kind of like the BC and AD part of your life, like before the escalator and after the escalator, right?
00:23:02.000I mean, like, what was that life even before?
00:23:10.000And so, Don, they're going to do everything they possibly can to launch, you know, Crossfire Hurricane 2.0 to try to throw kind of a new COVID issue into the 2024 election.
00:23:23.000But first, we have to get through the primary.
00:23:25.000Don, any initial reaction to the results out of Kentucky last evening?
00:23:29.000It could show the power of a certain person's endorsement and the lack of power from somebody else.
00:23:36.000Well, I think without question, you see that.
00:23:38.000You saw the, you know, the Jacksonville mayor's race.
00:23:41.000You know, we lost a Jacksonville mayor race, the town where Ron DeSantis was going to have his campaign headquarters when he eventually launches the largest, I believe it's the largest city in America that has been controlled by conservatives.
00:23:56.000But he throws an endorsement, but then does nothing because he's on a perpetual book tour.
00:24:00.000It's literally the longest book tour I've ever seen, Charlie, and I've written a couple of bestsellers.
00:24:07.000That's like a book tour is three or four days over a period of 10 days.
00:24:12.000You do a little bit of push on social afterwards, but no one's ever seen a six-month-long book tour while, you know, again, Florida or the people of Jacksonville or the candidates supposedly endorsed is neglected.
00:24:24.000So we handed over the largest city in America in a red state controlled by Republicans right back over to the Democrats.
00:24:34.000You know, the people of Florida, and I'm one of them, you know, the people of Florida elected Ron DeSantis to be governor, not to be running for two.
00:24:42.000Is this going to happen for the rest of two years where there's going to be absentee leadership so he can fulfill something else after literally campaigning about fixing Florida and working on the things in Florida about five months ago?
00:24:54.000I mean, that seems like a pretty serious bait and switch, and people have to think about that.
00:24:59.000Yeah, and this seems as if, look, I'm getting frustrated because this is an unnecessary primary exercise in a lot of different ways.
00:25:05.000Then you have all these one percenters that have almost no appeal whatsoever.
00:25:13.000We're going to have a bidder primary, right?
00:25:15.000Unless something changes, which doesn't seem as if that's going to happen.
00:25:19.000And so, Don, the message of the MAGA base is that we should try to end this primary as quickly as possible, build a sizable operation and infrastructure in the early states.
00:25:37.000Every dollar, Charlie, every dollar that we spend in a bidder primary so that a couple of really, really rich consultants can take 20% of every commercial that they put up for DeSantis or the others, that they can take 20% of every dollar raised when people send in campaign contributions to that.
00:25:56.000Those guys are going to see $20, $30, $40, $50 million this cycle to themselves.
00:26:37.000They get kickbacks and all the other pieces.
00:26:39.000So every dollar that we waste in a bidder primary doing something that seems futile to me, maybe they can drag it out and make it more bitter and make it harder.
00:26:49.000But every dollar we waste on that is a dollar we're not spending playing the game the Democrats have been playing, creating a ballot harvesting operation, making sure we get out there to those people, making sure we don't just say, hey, great, you love our ideas, that's wonderful.
00:27:03.000But making sure we show up on their doorstep and be like, okay, give us your ballot.
00:27:55.000And, you know, we're not in a fair fight, guys.
00:27:58.000If you think that, you know, that's an opportunity that they're pushing these days.
00:28:02.000We're actually winning culturally, in my opinion, right now.
00:28:05.000But you can't win culturally when you have insurmountable obstacles, you know, like 10x, the money being spent, plus all the boosting from multi-trillion dollar organizations that are literally the most partisan and corrupted places, you know, outside of the FBI and DOJ that we could ever imagine.
00:28:21.000In closing, Don, about one minute remaining, you do a show on Rumble.
00:28:24.000I think independent media is going to be the key to the 2024 election.
00:28:39.000Yeah, listen, you know, I think, you know, I think we've seen a lot.
00:28:42.000I think our eyes have been open to a lot in the media and both conservative and otherwise.
00:28:49.000I think if we're not paying attention right now, then it is futile.
00:28:53.000But I think people's eyes have to be open.
00:28:55.000People have to also then get involved.
00:28:57.000I mean, the biggest thing and so much of the design of so many of the things that they have done is to make us afraid, make you afraid to speak up, make you afraid to donate, make you afraid to voice your opinion and push back on the insanity that they're pushing.
00:29:11.000I mean, again, whether it's the trans crap and the, you know, men and women's sports and all, like, the other side's lost their mind.
00:29:17.000That's why I do think we're winning the culture wars.
00:29:19.000We must, though, become unafraid, Charlie.
00:31:06.000What are the best places to live in America?
00:31:08.000I mean, they come up with these reports all the time, but it's fascinating that U.S. News, who they think, where they think the best places to live in America are come move to these places.
00:32:15.000Intellectual diversity is nice, but racial diversity, just for the sake of it, is not anybody's strength.
00:32:20.000It could be interesting, but it's not necessarily strength because racial makeup doesn't mean a lot, but the left thinks it does.
00:32:26.000So U.S. News and Report has come out, ranks the best places to live in the United States in 2023 and 24.
00:32:33.000And you can't help but notice when you go through the list of the top 10 of the best places to live, it goes completely against the left's cultish incantation of diversity is our strength.
00:32:47.000So U.S. News Reports come out with the top 10 places to live.
00:32:50.000Number one, Fayetteville, number 10, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
00:32:52.000Number nine, Colorado Springs, Colorado.
00:34:19.000You see, Green Bay, which is now independently called the nicest place to live in the country, is a country, is a city that believes in the rule of law, that doesn't believe in unlimited mass migration.
00:34:34.000Green Bay is also against the demographic changes that they're pushing forward.
00:35:47.000Maybe Green Bay, Wisconsin is considered the nicest place to live because there is a memory of what used to be.
00:35:54.000The best places to live in America are largely the ones on the U.S. News Report list, places that have avoided becoming too popular, too urban, and too overcrowded.
00:36:05.000Maybe the rush to the cities has been a very bad idea.
00:36:09.000Maybe importing millions of foreigners into our country is a bad idea.
00:36:16.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:36:21.000Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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