00:00:00.000Today on the Charlie Kirk show, Brian Kilmead joins us to talk about his new book and the midterm chances.
00:00:05.000A Turning Point USA chapter leader is assaulted on campus, maced three times for wanting to go to a club meeting by domestic violent extremists on the left, of which no one is arrested.
00:00:16.000And yet we have to be lectured by the left and the media that somehow we're the violent side.
00:00:20.000And then finally, I have hope because of something I saw on MSNBC.
00:00:23.000So you're going to want to listen to this entire episode.
00:00:25.000Email me, freedom at charliekirk.com and get involved with turningpointusa at tpusa.com, start a high school chapter, start a college chapter today at tpusa.com.
00:01:17.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:37.000There's not even enough time because you hop on the air at six.
00:02:40.000And then you do it with affiliates because you know, as you try to build the radio network, you try to contribute to their morning shows and let them know what's coming up on your show.
00:02:48.000So my busiest time for radio is between 4 and 5:55.
00:02:54.000And then I actually do the radio show at 9.06.
00:02:57.000And I'll be able to just, I just want to give the affiliates a sense that I'm part of their lineup.
00:03:02.000So I try to weave that in before doing Fox and Friends of the Morning.
00:03:06.000And there's a lot of live shows going on at that time, as you know.
00:03:09.000So around the country, different time shifts and everything like that.
00:03:42.000I mean, what I try to do is in the middle of these George Floyd riots, where people are saying America is hopelessly racist, and it's about time that we admit it.
00:03:53.000And everybody knew this was wrong, but people wrote checks to Black Lives Matter.
00:03:57.000I'm thinking to myself, okay, this is going to be great.
00:03:59.000I'm doing a book on the Civil War regarding two men, black and white, who rose above it and brought America forward.
00:04:05.000And then, at first, dread, and then I realized this is a great opportunity.
00:04:09.000Give people a perspective on race in America and where we were and where we are.
00:04:13.000And then you see these two men who overcame incredible circumstances.
00:04:16.000You know, Lincoln, most people know, bounce a depression.
00:04:20.000You know, people who not many people know his mom died at eight.
00:04:25.000He had to find a way to teach himself to read, write, and excel, even though he had one year of formal schooling.
00:04:31.000And he overcame all those obstacles to be a few political losses, to be the perfect person at the perfect time to start this party called the Republican Party that thought that slavery should end and everybody should be free.
00:04:45.000And Frederick Douglass, born a slave, escapes to freedom on his second effort, ends up in New York.
00:04:53.000I was also free for a place to live and something to eat.
00:04:56.000So he literally had nothing in a strange city that was just as harsh as it is today, maybe more harsh.
00:05:02.000And then he found his way to become within seven years a best-selling author and one of the most sought-after speakers in the country.
00:05:09.000But instead of leaving America, he wanted to make it better.
00:05:13.000So instead of doing that, he helps lead an abolitionist movement.
00:05:16.000So he's in the perfect place at the perfect time when the Civil War happens.
00:05:19.000And he went from critic to big supporter to great friend of Abraham Lincoln.
00:05:24.000So I know I couldn't bring anything different to those biographies, but I could talk about their relationship.
00:05:29.000And I think people would understand if they accomplished what they accomplished despite America at that time and the world at that time.
00:05:35.000I think they have a great appreciation and perspective about race in America, the most successful multicultural country in the history of the world.
00:05:44.000And in this book, the news came to this history story and that they were trying to take down the very statue that Frederick Douglass was asked to dedicate to Abraham Lincoln 10 years after his death.
00:05:54.000I'm talking about the Emancipation Monument and talking about the freedom statue that sits in Lincoln Park in Washington, D.C.
00:06:03.000And they actually took the replica down in Massachusetts.
00:06:06.000And then they ripped Frederick Douglass's statue off the podium in Rochester where he lived most of his free life.
00:06:13.000And I'm thinking to myself, that is my book.
00:06:16.000So I put that in the afterword and what it means and the folly of those efforts and why we should feel better about where we're at in 2022 than we're at in 2020.
00:06:25.000And you see, I think there's a real sobering effect here in America that things are not nearly as bad as portrayed.
00:06:33.000People are taking advantage of that moment to make themselves rich like Black Lives Matter and really doing everything to divide the country when really not far apart.
00:06:42.000And I see Republicans being much like the original Republican Party, welcoming in African Americans, welcoming people of all sex.
00:06:50.000Look at the diverse class that is running for office right now.
00:06:57.000Republicans are the diverse, you know, pull up your pull yourself up from your bootstraps party that is everyone on board from women to Hispanics to blacks.
00:07:09.000And I just think this is a fascinating time that's happened since my hardcover came out.
00:07:14.000And then the softcover comes out a year later with this new afterword because history is once again news.
00:07:22.000Can you talk about how Frederick Douglass considered the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence to be a promissory note that was the fulfillment to abolish slavery was actually a continuation of the moral claims about the Declaration of the Constitution.
00:07:40.000That is directly at odds with Nicole Hannah-Jones and the 1619 Project, who believed that those founding documents were against the promise of the abolitionist slavery.
00:07:50.000Frederick Douglass actually admired the founding promise.
00:07:54.000And some people misrepresent Frederick Douglass with his famous speech, what to the slave is the 4th of July.
00:08:01.000Help walk us through that, Brian, because you have a great historical mind, and I think the nuance is important to explain here.
00:08:09.000Well, number one, she doesn't do any interviews.
00:08:11.000I think she does like three interviews because she can't defend what's in her book.
00:08:14.000And most of the historians who were consulted by her book, you know, for example, the New York Times kind of wrote that book, it seems like.
00:08:22.000And a lot of it they sent out to various historians to say, hey, this is what we're putting out there.
00:08:26.000And a lot of them kicked it to the curb.
00:08:56.000So Frederick Douglass in particular talks about the journey.
00:08:59.000So you have a guy that was told you don't teach African Americans to read and write because they don't want freedom.
00:09:06.000They're going to see the world in which it could be, not the one that we need them to work.
00:09:09.000Now, keep in mind, only 20% of the black population was in the North.
00:09:14.000People knew slavery existed, but it was not part of a lifestyle that in the North, even though you found this in the 1960s, that they even understood a lot of the times when people were seeing some of this video with a black and white water fountain to the buses.
00:09:26.000In the North, they were saying to themselves, what is going on?
00:09:29.000Not that the North was free of prejudice and racist tendencies, but it was anything like what's happening in the South that was embedded in some ways in that community.
00:09:39.000And what the founding fathers couldn't do is find a way to shake slavery.
00:10:16.000And the Constitution needs to be torn up.
00:10:18.000And that's the guy that's mentoring Douglas.
00:10:20.000But the more Douglass reads and studies the Constitution, the more he looks at the Declaration of Independence, he changes his mind.
00:10:28.000And he leaves Garrison and he goes with this guy, Garrett Smith, who says, he goes, listen, we're not living up to the Constitution.
00:10:37.000It's not the Constitution that's wrong.
00:10:40.000And then Douglass wrote about it, made his own newspaper called The North Star, left the Liberator, and he would write about the promise of America.
00:10:48.000And he's impatient about America making progress.
00:11:05.000And that's where some conflict between the two were.
00:11:08.000And he said, it's a promissory note, guys, here's the document.
00:11:11.000This is now the great, this is how you're going to be graded, live up to it.
00:11:15.000And it took generations in overcoming racists like Andrew Johnson, instead of having Grant and people like Lincoln, you had Andrew Johnson who said, you know, we fought a war, but if the South wants to do their own thing, go ahead, Ku Klux Klan.
00:11:33.000At the same time, Grant comes over and starts doing some extraordinary things, but did give birth to separate but equal, which is something we had to handle 50 years later.
00:12:31.000What do you think the activist press might be missing?
00:12:34.000We've got to get you back on One Nation, too, Charlie.
00:12:36.000I got to ask you that very same question because you do have the pulse of the nation more than anybody because you probably interact with more people who came to this show and your foundation.
00:12:47.000But what I see right now is I cannot believe where it's trending.
00:12:53.000I mean, the Dobbs decision was swapping everything, and Donald Trump, and they had investigations, allowed it to be the first and second issue in the country.
00:13:02.000And the Republicans said, well, what happened, man?
00:13:15.000Crime and no punishment has taken over every city, big and small, bleeding into the subways.
00:13:21.000That is now one or two in almost every ranking of things that matter most.
00:13:25.000And the fact is, they jammed the Inflation Reduction Act down our throats, which was mislabeled, and they took the American people for suckers on that.
00:13:33.000It was a green energy deal that we didn't need.
00:13:36.000At the same time, our gas prices were going up and utilities go through the roof.
00:13:40.000Now, one thing that I point out that Democrats, that Republicans did, I'm telling you this is Republican action, the Democratic actions and their lack of action on things that matter most.
00:13:50.000And of all people, Bill Maher, if they had listened, they'd be stopping a tsunami that I think is going to hit him in the face.
00:13:56.000And now, even Al Franken came out and said, what is going on?
00:14:00.000This is a liberals, liberal comedian, I granted, but a commentator.
00:14:05.000And he said, how could you actually think that inflation wasn't something you have to deal with every day responsibly?
00:14:13.000Instead, you're just jamming, you're just adding fuel to the fire with the student loan forgiveness and continuing to pretend as if we're doing all we can, drilling and blaming Saudi Arabia when we don't, and Vladimir Putin that we are experiencing what we're experiencing.
00:14:28.000The American people don't want to hear excuses.
00:14:32.000So I believe the Democrats are going to get swamped right now and they're the blame.
00:14:37.000The question is going to break down the fights in Georgia, when we break down the matchups in Nevada, when we shouldn't see if there's an upset brewing, if we see if there's an upset brewing, possibly across the country in places like Colorado.
00:17:02.000I think Cuomo's working the phones and telling get out the vote union stuff saying, nope, maybe, nope, maybe help Schumer, but stay out of this one.
00:17:10.000I think there's a lot of, I think there's a lot of revenge going on there.
00:17:46.000But since when has that ever been a problem for the American left?
00:17:49.000They do whatever they want to try to seize more power, even if it means purging the Supreme Court of its most experienced justices.
00:17:55.000To no one's surprise, their new court purging scheme would remove long-serving, amazing justices like the super brilliant Clarence Thomas and the courageous Samuel Alito.
00:18:05.000They would then replace these new justices with a rubber stamp and their radical agenda.
00:18:10.000Since Democrats are working hard to pass court purging with term limits, we need to work even harder to stop it.
00:18:15.000Or the Supreme Court, as we know it, will never be the same.
00:18:17.000If you care about the integrity of the Supreme Court and don't want to see it taken over by political hacks, go to supremecoup.com.
00:18:40.000The left is full of people that are willing to use force to intimidate and harm conservatives.
00:18:46.000It's happening with Turning Point USA chapters all across the country.
00:18:50.000It's now happened twice at University of New Mexico, University of Iowa, and yes, now at University of California, Davis, our Turning Point USA chapter, was trying to host a speaker, Stephen Davis, a great man, who was met with Antifa and the young lady who runs the Turning Point USA chapter, Madeline Lowe, University of California Davis chapter leader, was maced three times by domestic, violent, extremist leaders, domestic, violent, extremist leftists.
00:19:36.000And when I arrived, I saw about 100, maybe 75 to 100 protesters in front, and they were banging on the windows, yelling things at the UC Davis Conference Center.
00:19:48.000And so I walked through the crowd trying to fit in and I go up to the security guards asking them if I was able to get into the event.
00:19:54.000And when I found out I couldn't, I was started taking videos of everything that was happening around me.
00:19:59.000And at that point, people were starting to like grab me and say, why are you talking to these people?
00:20:33.000And then I turned around and then another person maced me.
00:20:37.000And then the same guy that did it the first time maced me again.
00:20:40.000After that, a guy from my left grabbed my phone, ripped it out of my hand, and then took it from me and threw it on the ground and smashed it.
00:20:49.000At that point, my hand was hurting a lot because he had ripped it out of my hand and I was trying to hold on to it.
00:20:54.000And then he called the police and the police would not come until the protest was broken up.
00:21:03.000Was anybody arrested for using mace against you three times?
00:21:08.000No one was arrested because the police department would not respond to the call unless the protest was broken up.
00:21:16.000I'm pretty sure it was due to an incident 10 years ago at UC Davis.
00:21:20.000And so I had to wait around for the police department to come take my statement, in which if they find the people who did mace me, they would arrest them and press charges.
00:21:32.000Yeah, well, something tells me that they're not going to take this very seriously, right?
00:21:38.000And so here, basically, you're trying to host a peaceful event with Turning Point USA, trying to have Stephen Davis on campus and walk our audience through this.
00:21:48.000A hundred masked Antifa people show up on campus because you're going to have an event with a couple dozen people, maybe 50, maybe 100 people.
00:22:01.000And so the vice president, Luke Schultz, is the person who invited me to this event.
00:22:06.000I was really just a member going and I'm trying to get more active in the club.
00:22:11.000And at this point, I was taking videos to, you know, have this be promoted.
00:22:16.000And when I showed up, I was not expecting 100 protesters.
00:22:21.000It was extremely not fair to any side.
00:22:25.000And I think it's really lack, it's really showing what, how much freedom of speech we have on campuses and universities around school.
00:22:34.000And I'm a first year and I thought that it would be a lot more accessible to just have the right to speech and understand and go to club meetings.
00:23:01.000We actually didn't believe, we only had 200 people that RSVP'd, but we didn't expect a lot of people to show up, especially not protesters.
00:23:18.000And so you try to show up and 100 leftists that some of whom are armed with batons and mace and Tifa, domestic violent extremists, try to then intimidate and then they go after you and Mace you, which is against the law.
00:23:49.000I felt as though they weren't undergraduates.
00:23:52.000They might have been recently graduated or community members.
00:23:57.000Yeah, I mean, that's been our experience.
00:23:59.000And I mean, they have these trained Antifa pamphlets.
00:24:03.000I want to read it for our audience here, which is: don't talk to cops, don't photograph or film the protest, protect each other, stick together, watch what you say, leave your phone in case of arrest, all this different stuff.
00:24:16.000And they have the Sacramento NLG hotline.
00:24:28.000And so I got to ask the question: are you going to stay involved as a conservative on campus?
00:24:33.000I mean, does this deter you, despite the fact you got maced three times by a left-wing domestic violent extremist?
00:24:39.000No, it does not deter me at all, actually.
00:24:41.000I'm going to try and make my difference as much as possible.
00:24:45.000I was not planning on getting actively involved in politics at least until sophomore year, but now it just makes me want to do it more because this isn't right at all that people can't voice their opinion.
00:24:57.000And I'm trying to make a big movement and be able to have the right to freedom of speech on campus.
00:25:04.000I mean, seriously, I hope every adult listening to this, and we have a very sizable audience, is taking this in.
00:25:10.000Where people say, Oh, Charlie, you know, how do I get involved in all this?
00:25:14.000I hope you guys get a little inspired by this because here's a young lady who just wanted to go to a Turning Point USA chapter meeting.
00:25:32.000They just let these hooligans do whatever they want.
00:25:35.000And by the way, there is this organization, the Sacramento National Lawyers Guild, that they have an on-call attorney for people who are arrested can call from jail to request legal supports.
00:25:48.000They have an entire infrastructure in case somebody got arrested that assaulted you.
00:25:52.000Of course, they'd be let out without bail.
00:25:54.000But that's really amazing, Madeline, that you want to stay engaged and stay involved, and this won't deter you.
00:26:43.000Very important that we stay on this, what's happening on these college campuses.
00:26:48.000Meanwhile, they're the ones that call us Nazis, play cut 50.
00:26:53.000I mean, I'm not calling, I'm not going to say that, you know, the GOP are Nazis at this point or whatever, but it certainly sounds very familiar to what happened in Germany.
00:27:03.000Certainly sounds very familiar to what happened in Germany, really.
00:27:06.000Which side is the one that is using weapons to deter people to go to campus meetings about freedom of speech and the Constitution?
00:27:30.000We've had kids knocked out stone cold at UC Berkeley.
00:27:33.000University of New Mexico, they violently have stormed and canceled two events of ours.
00:27:38.000You might see where I'm going to be attending next semester where I'm going to be visiting next semester.
00:27:42.000You see, we have a rule at Turning Point USA.
00:27:45.000You mess around and you come after us, we're going to come back after you.
00:27:48.000Remember the Tommy Larin event when they were quarantined and had not just quarantined because of a virus, but because of all the people that disrupted the event and the domestic violent extremists or Benny at University of Iowa, where they came violently after him in his presentation?
00:28:04.000Or do you remember the Steve Scales shooter, James T. Hodgkinson?
00:28:10.000Staunch Bernie Sanders supporter that shot Steve Scalise?
00:28:13.000Or how about the three arrested in connection with violence with the Donald Trump rally in San Jose?
00:29:46.000For all of history, the left has always needed chaos and violence.
00:29:50.000From the French terror to the Bolsheviks to Maoism to today.
00:29:55.000And I could go through example after example after example of how the left endorses violence, the left appreciates violence, the left uses violence.
00:30:09.000Remember during 2020, an AOC said protesting shouldn't be comfortable during Floyd of Palooza when they assaulted dozens of Secret Service members and no one went to jail.
00:30:19.000There was no January 6th committee for the summer of arson or the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone or for CHOP.
00:30:26.000They're trying to gaslight an entire nation to try to say that somehow conservatives are domestic violent extremists.
00:30:34.000It's a bitter lie used to try to create a national security apparatus to spy on us, to censor us, to infiltrate our political groups, and to destroy our movements across the country.
00:30:47.000The Democrats are the party of violence.
00:30:50.000They can't win debates, so they must use force.
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00:32:00.000You know, you rarely ever get to see the image of a liberating force going into a tyrannical city or nation to liberate people from their oppressors.
00:32:13.000But we do have live footage of such a time.
00:34:10.000You guys are studying at a very deep and fundamental level.
00:34:14.000And MSNBC thought MAGA people are stupid.
00:34:16.000Obviously, they didn't go to Yale, and they probably weren't vaccinated, losers.
00:34:20.000And so, this wine mom, who I don't know her name, but she's obviously very uninformed, who thought that she could go get pull a fast one on a bunch of deplorable MAGA types about January 6th, she had a focus group.
00:34:33.000And I think this is one of the most encouraging videos I've seen in some time because it shows that our movement is truly bottom-up.
00:34:41.000It's truly grassroots where they know this stuff just as well as I do.
00:34:46.000The muscular class is red-pilled against this smug elite TV commentator.
00:36:08.000Anybody who harmed anybody, anybody who caused property destruction, that needs to be dealt with.
00:36:14.000But if you're there making your voice heard at the people's house, no less, that's, again, it's a fundamental constitutional right of an American citizen, and people should not be being held political prisoner because of it.
00:36:34.000If anyone on our audience knows any one of these people, please have them contact me.
00:36:38.000I have a feeling and an urge, and I'm usually right about this, that there's a lot more that they did not air as part of that conversation.
00:36:47.000If you know anyone that's one of those 10 patriots that had the boldness to challenge the MSNBC, Cabal, email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.