00:00:57.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:20.000Email us freedom at charliekirk.com, the regime, and all everyone's saying Juneteenth, Juneteenth.
00:01:26.000I want to have Vince Everett Ellison with us now, author of a new book, Crime Inc, and author also of 25 Lies and Crime Inc., How Democrats Employ Mafia and Gangster Tactics to Gain and Hold Power.
00:02:01.000So I know the Democratic Party and the Southern Democratic Party very, very well.
00:02:05.000And Juneteenth is a celebration now that the Democratic Party is trying to hijack.
00:02:10.000The Democratic Party celebrating Juneteenth is like the Gestapo celebrating Hanukkah.
00:02:18.000The Democratic Party was the party that owned the slaves.
00:02:20.000They were the party that fought to destroy America and to keep their slaves.
00:02:24.000They were the party that kept Jim Crow for 100 years, keeping black people from voting and castrating them and murdering them.
00:02:33.000And now they want to say, ooh, let's celebrate Juneteenth and the emancipation of black people.
00:02:40.000No, Juneteenth came about because black Republicans and white Republicans came down south and forcibly freed southern black people from their Democratic Party slave masters.
00:02:54.000And just like everything else, the Democratic Party is trying to hijack and lie and deflect their sins on the rest of America.
00:03:02.000So like, you know, they're just liars, they have their miscreants.
00:03:06.000And black people can have as many holidays as they want.
00:03:08.000They're going to have Juneteenth, they can have MLK Day.
00:03:12.000They can tear down Confederate statues and they can tear down the flags.
00:03:15.000But until they decide to break a loose from this demonic, evil institution called the Democratic Party, they'll never have any peace in America.
00:03:29.000So in the black community, is there finally some questioning about this really abusive relationship between black America and the Democrat Party?
00:03:39.000Well, Charlie, because of the work that you've been doing and people like you, yes, there is.
00:03:44.000Younger black people, the younger black people are beginning to question it.
00:03:47.000What you've been doing for the past few years with your blogs, with your radio show, with Turning Point, you're putting information out there that they cannot argue with.
00:03:57.000So, you know, they're good at deflecting, as you know, but they now have a conspiracy of silence, as you know.
00:04:04.000They try to keep people like you and me from talking to the black community because they know that if we ever start talking to them, the Democrat Party's done.
00:05:23.000And they were conduits between the black community and the rich white liberals who need to keep the black community under control for their vote.
00:05:34.000The black preacher, the black civil rights organization, and the black politician are the only group in America that get paid by politicians.
00:05:45.000You know, everybody else has a pat, right?
00:05:49.000Politicians pay the black preacher, the black politician, and the black civil rights organizations to keep the black community on the Democrat Party plantation.
00:05:59.000This is why when you look at these congressional black districts, you think these guys want these districts to be integrated?
00:06:16.000They control every crack house, every whole house, every, every, every apostate church.
00:06:21.000They've taken the black church, they made it apostate.
00:06:24.000They've taken the black school, they've destroyed it.
00:06:26.000They've taken the black man and they locked him up.
00:06:28.000The Democratic Party is an evil institution.
00:06:31.000It is controlled by a couple of perverts, liars, psychopaths, and anti-Christian bigots.
00:06:37.000And until the black community shake off the shackles of this party, they will never, ever be free here in America.
00:06:44.000So, Vince, let's talk about some of the issues.
00:06:47.000And I think you're spot on because there is this black leadership issue where they get paid by white liberals to control the ordinary black person, right?
00:06:55.000Someone, the black people that are doing their best to get ahead.
00:07:07.000But is the argument you're making that black leadership, like Al Charlatan and some of these people, they're actually proxies of wealthy white liberals to keep the black community voting Democrat?
00:08:27.000They were fighting for the Confederacy.
00:08:29.000Why were black men still on the plantation picking cotton, digging ditches, putting up ramparts to help the Confederacy to keep them in slavery?
00:08:39.000The same reason they march, they pick it, and they vote now for the same Confederacy.
00:09:27.000This is why black people march more than anybody in the world because they believe that white people can give them their freedom and they just won't do it.
00:09:46.000And when they understand that, they'll be like every other minority here in America, the Jewish community, the Indian community, the Asian community, probably doing better than the white community.
00:09:58.000But again, the black preacher, the black civil rights organization, the black civil rights organization, and a black politician keeps telling them the same lie over and over and over again.
00:10:52.000But you have to simultaneously do the other thing.
00:10:55.000I believe you actually have an obligation, which is to support women in need and babies in need that are at risk of being aborted.
00:11:02.000Look, when you introduce a girl to her baby by providing an ultrasound, you're giving her the truth at the most critical and important time in her life.
00:11:11.00085% of the time when they actually see the baby, they choose life.
00:11:17.000Now, mind you, pre-born provides resources.
00:11:23.000And I encourage you, if you're pro-life, to pray about this, are you giving money to actually support the unborn if you are voting for pro-life?
00:11:29.000Look, $140 gives five mothers a free ultrasound and saves babies.
00:11:33.000$280 can save 10 babies, and just $28 a month can save a baby a month for less than a dollar a day.
00:11:38.000I'm a donor to this organization, and you should be too.
00:11:40.000A $15,000 gift will provide an ultrasound machine that will save lives for years to come.
00:11:45.000Whether you want to save one baby or five or hundreds, this opportunity is just a phone call or click away.
00:11:52.000I think the world of pre-born, I give money financially.
00:11:55.000And every one of you that are pro-life, I believe you have a duty and an obligation to go to preborn.org slash Kirk and give as you can, give your best gift, or call 833-850-2229.
00:12:41.000He comes at you with his mouth shaped in such a way that even though you see his teeth, you think he's smiling.
00:12:47.000That is Malcolm X. Our guest is Vince Everett Ellingson.
00:12:50.000Vince, talking about that triangle, in your own words, the Iron Triangle, I want to ask you about a specific issue that I do not think is going to resonate at all in black America, and that is this trans issue.
00:13:03.000Out of all the white liberal idea pathogens, the one that I see really some resistance, some disagreement, some kind of what the hell are you doing is trying to trans black youth.
00:13:41.000Because we never ever put it together in a nice little box and say that the Democratic Party is behind this and that the Democrat Party congressman that you're voting for is the guy that's pushing it.
00:13:53.000And if you keep on voting for this guy, you're going to send your own soul to hell.
00:13:57.000Because our Bible tells us that not just the people that do these things are going to go to hell, but the people that encourage them are also going to hell.
00:14:05.000You're going to be held responsible for your vote.
00:14:07.000I have a documentary out right now called Will You Go to Hell for Me.
00:14:11.000Before Tucker Carlson left Fox, he allowed me to debut the trailer on the show.
00:14:16.000Again, you can view this trailer on willyougohellfrome.com.
00:14:21.000And I'm asking the question: how can Christian Democrats think they can vote for this party that wants to castrate little boys and call them little girls?
00:14:31.000That wants to give dope mastectomies to little girls and call them little boys.
00:14:34.000That will allow demented grown men to go to the bathroom with your daughters.
00:14:39.000That will allow grown men to participate in sporting activities with little girls.
00:14:45.000To allow grown men to put on dresses and go into public schools and shake their behinds in your children's faces while they're trying to learn their ABCs in 123.
00:14:54.000How do you think you're going to vote for this and not be held responsible by God?
00:15:00.000Because Jesus Christ said, if anyone harm one of these little ones, it is better that a millstone be tied around your neck and you be thrown into the sea.
00:15:10.000Well, I hope these Democrats get swear.
00:15:12.000So, Vince, I want to ask you, okay, going into 2024, whoever the nominee, Donald Trump or whatever, they go to Atlanta, they go to Philadelphia, and they have an opportunity to speak to black audiences, which I tell Republicans, don't be afraid.
00:18:10.000And I didn't want to go to those woke banks.
00:18:11.000I, you know, I did previous, my last mortgage we did, it was with a woke bank, and they were just, they were bureaucratic, and they donate the BLM and the gay agenda and all that stuff.
00:18:21.000And I said, what can I do to actually, and I said, of course, duh, hello, andrewandodd.com.
00:20:01.000And again, these other banks that I deal with, it's like here's 955,000 pages to sign, and they don't call you back, and they don't work weekends.
00:20:09.000I had a problem with one of the things on the process because it was one thing that wasn't filled out.
00:20:12.000And they respond on a Sunday within minutes.
00:20:15.000You're trying to get a response from a woke bank on a Sunday.
00:21:10.000Joining us in a second is an unbelievably powerful guest, Hayward Robinson, Dr. Hayward Robinson, who for years was an abortionist and had an encounter with God and now speaks out against abortion.
00:22:07.000Well, what I've learned is that we need to use the word abortion less.
00:22:12.000Basically, I was a paid killer of pre-born children.
00:22:15.000All the mother needed to do, and we need to stress to these women that they're already mothers when they have conceived, is they would pay someone like me to take them into a facility.
00:22:27.000It's not a clinic, it's a killing center, where I would then take that baby's life and then away once I got the money.
00:22:36.000So I was saved by the Lord Jesus Christ a bit over 30 years ago and went from darkness to light, a Saul, Paul, conversion.
00:22:47.000And the scales fell off my eyes, even though I knew the truth scientifically that a pre-born child is indeed human, is a developing Homo sapien, and I would take that life.
00:23:00.000The Lord opened my eyes to know that every life is sacred and that he can indeed do the same thing for anyone else who's involved in the abortion cartel or the abortion industry.
00:23:14.000It's all about a business of killing children, and we've got to stop these, I call them anti-humanites from their ill deeds.
00:23:26.000So, how many abortions did you personally perform?
00:23:31.000I would probably say in the neighborhood of hundreds, I was not one of these abortionists that practiced for decades.
00:23:38.000I practiced or did abortions more on the side, moonlighting during residency.
00:23:46.000So it was the type of thing I did in the evenings and on weekends.
00:23:52.000So it wasn't something that I did over an extended period of time.
00:23:56.000But even if you do it for a short period of time, it's an easy money.
00:24:02.000The procedure is not very complicated.
00:24:04.000I'm not going to say it's a simple procedure.
00:24:07.000There's no such thing as a simple surgical procedure because they can have devastating consequences.
00:24:14.000But you can do a first trimester suction DNC or suction dilation and curatage in about 10 minutes.
00:24:43.000You don't meet this patient until you walk in the room, you barely introduce yourself and you kill their child.
00:24:50.000And then you send them out on the streets after give them a graham cracker and maybe a little cup of juice.
00:24:56.000And then you walk away with the money.
00:24:59.000When you were performing these, was there any part of you before you had that revelation moment where you had to suppress the guilt of what you were doing?
00:25:09.000Was there a time where you were like, I don't love this, where you had to almost fight it and say, ah, it's, you know, or just, was there a process of justification you went through before your eyes were totally opened?
00:25:23.000Well, the key word, Charlie, is dehumanization/slash desensitization.
00:25:30.000The first time you see an abortion, you get a feeling in you, you know, this just ain't quite right.
00:25:40.000When you see another human being, particularly one that's defenseless, now we have to admit that a very small six or seven week pre-born child doesn't look a lot like you and I, but it is still indeed a human being.
00:25:56.000And you know that what you're doing is taking away a developing life.
00:26:01.000But after you see one, and in the book, The Scalpel and the Soul, we talk about how you can see one, you become progressively desensitized.
00:26:11.000Your eyes are the window to your soul.
00:26:15.000And once you let that virus in, that's the first step of desensitizing your humanity, desensitizing your heart.
00:26:25.000And the next time you see one, it's a little less.
00:26:28.000So the next thing you do, or the next thing you know, you're there sitting there getting ready to do an abortion yourself.
00:26:36.000And after the first one, it's kind of difficult.
00:26:40.000But you know, it's a funny thing about evil.
00:26:42.000It's a funny thing about habits and addictions.
00:26:45.000They have a way to desensitize the normal response to something that's noxious.
00:26:52.000All one needs to do is think about the first time they tried to smoke a cigarette, they coughed, and that's because it was a foreign, noxious stimulus.
00:27:03.000You're seeing the killing of a pre-born child, and you progressively desensitize yourself and take the humanity away from the baby, which eventually happens to the doctor also.
00:27:17.000And so desensitization and dehumanization, which we've done with other people groups also throughout history, that's what happens with pre-born child killing or what we refer to as abortion.
00:27:30.000So you had your transformational moment.
00:28:37.000I went to a Leon Patello Christian music concert where he had something like what we would call an altar call, where he asked, who wants things to be 100% right with God?
00:28:52.000And I stood up and he prayed, but I didn't know exactly what I was praying for.
00:29:00.000But the Lord took that and honored that moment as my Damascus road experience.
00:29:06.000And over the next several weeks, the gospel was indeed explained to me.
00:29:11.000I knew that I was a new creature in Christ.
00:29:13.000I knew that Jesus, he who had no sin, became sin that I might know the righteousness of God.
00:29:20.000And from that time on, I've been discipled.
00:29:23.000I've become very active in the pro-life movement, right along with my late wife, Maureen Johnson.
00:29:30.000And I'm working right now full-time with 40 Days for Life, which is a very robust pro-life organization that's impacting the war against the pre-born.
00:29:47.000I remind people that the revolving door or the door that leads from darkness to light, from being a baby killer to a pro-life warrior, swings only one way.
00:29:58.000And we don't have people who are pro-life and then they decide they're going to be an abortionist.
00:30:04.000And I'm just thankful that we're just about to celebrate the first anniversary of the overturning of Roe E. Wade.
00:30:12.000But we've got to recognize that there's still a lot of abortions going on and our fight is really just beginning.
00:31:53.000The roots of it are in what we call eugenics or Margaret Sanger's type of eugenics, where they decide or have a policy or philosophy that there's certain racial stocks that should not be proliferating and that they are human weeds.
00:32:13.000If you look at the statistics in New York City, you will find that there are more blacks aborted than there are live births.
00:32:22.000But it's something that the mainstream media and what we refer to as the black leadership, they don't talk about that because it's just not an appropriate narrative, mainly because you can't make any money off of it and the media is not going to cover it.
00:32:40.000So what the people who know the statistics are right there.
00:32:46.000The black population in this United States is being suppressed.
00:32:51.000The most dangerous place for a black human being is inside of a black womb.
00:32:58.000They have only about a two-thirds chance of surviving that 40-week lease space, so to speak, and coming out alive.
00:33:09.000So it's very unfortunate that the black church will not stand up against this evil and this disparity.
00:33:17.000Now, of course, abortion is evil regardless of if it's white or black, but it disproportionately affects the black race in the United States.
00:33:28.000And so what do you find is, and you have a great temperament and an unbelievable story.
00:33:34.000What do you think is the most persuasive way to convince someone who is pro-abortion to reconsider their views?
00:33:41.000What questions, what arguments have you found over your multiple decades of speech and advocacy to be the most effective?
00:33:49.000Well, I found it's best to so-called flip the switch.
00:33:53.000And it's not the eloquence of what I may have or my experience.
00:33:59.000It's get them to articulate why they like killing babies.
00:34:03.000Don't say, why are you pro-choice or why do you believe in reproductive rights?
00:34:08.000Those are all euphemisms that are used to stop us from saying what we're really talking about.
00:34:13.000Just ask the person, well, why do you believe in killing babies?
00:34:16.000And first off, it's going to have them to wake up.
00:35:05.000You see, the state has an interest in the pre-born because they recognize that they are pre-born humans.
00:35:13.000you are a physician and you suspect that a woman is using drugs and she's pregnant, you by law have to report that to Child Protective Services because the state has an interest in the welfare of the child.
00:35:28.000So it's what we see here is the abortion distortion.
00:35:33.000We want to recognize the humanity and the legal protection of the pre-born child in one instance.
00:35:41.000But if it comes to killing it because it's an abortion or a pre-born child killing for money, we change the legal standard and it's schizophrenia.
00:36:13.000Everybody, email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
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00:36:25.000Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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