The Charlie Kirk Show - From the Archive: Charlie at Cal State Fullerton

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.

00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.

00:00:19.000 But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.

00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.

00:00:26.000 You've got to stop sending your kids to college.

00:00:27.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.

00:00:31.000 Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter.

00:00:33.000 Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter.

00:00:35.000 Go find out how your church can get involved.

00:00:37.000 Sign up and become an activist.

00:00:39.000 I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade.

00:00:41.000 Most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same.

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00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:49.000 Here we go.

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00:01:14.000 All right, let me say something about QA before we get started.

00:01:20.000 So, this is a majority conservative audience, I would imagine, right?

00:01:24.000 So, if someone who is on the left or someone who disagrees comes up to ask a question, I ask you not to heckle or interrupt, show respect, and show them the respect that they usually do not show us.

00:01:37.000 when we show up to events and public places.

00:01:39.000 So please just be tolerant to the extent of let them get their ideas out, and then we can respond appropriately.

00:01:47.000 It takes courage to come up at a conservative event and let your voice be heard.

00:01:51.000 So just show them that, and then we can respond from there.

00:01:54.000 Okay, the first question.

00:01:56.000 I was wondering if you could give some encouraging words to students who are being alienated by teachers, their communities, and their friends because of their Christian or conservative values.

00:02:08.000 That's a really important question.

00:02:10.000 So, students there, raise your hand if you think you've been graded differently or treated differently because of your beliefs.

00:02:14.000 Yeah, basically, every hand goes up.

00:02:15.000 So, that's right.

00:02:18.000 Marco says, worth it.

00:02:19.000 Yeah, look, I want to say this.

00:02:20.000 So, there's a disagreement on the right, and I have a lot of respect for Ben Shapiro, but he has a different answer than I do on this, and I'll kind of say this.

00:02:29.000 So, Ben, and this is not precisely your question, but I'll incorporate it.

00:02:34.000 So, the question, here's the question Do you lie on your term paper or how you present yourself to your professors to get a good grade?

00:02:41.000 That's a question a lot of people ask, right?

00:02:44.000 It's like it's easier to kind of hide and to not confront things.

00:02:47.000 So Ben says, yes, lie, misrepresent your beliefs, get the good grade, and get through college or high school.

00:02:54.000 I see it differently.

00:02:55.000 I do not believe getting a good grade is nearly as important as creating strong people filled with integrity, willing to fight for truth at all.

00:03:03.000 And so now, why am I bringing this up?

00:03:07.000 Because if you wanted to kind of, those of you that are conservative, wanted to have an easier life, Than just pretend to not be a conservative and just keep your head down and, you know, just pretend to be something that you're not and delete your social media.

00:03:19.000 I think there's a lot more important things in life than that.

00:03:22.000 So the word of encouragement is this first, something that is true that you don't want to hear, and then something that is true that you probably will want to hear.

00:03:29.000 It's never going to stop.

00:03:31.000 You will be harassed, called names, demonized, victimized.

00:03:35.000 You will be smeared and slandered.

00:03:37.000 You will lose a lot of your friends, and you'll doubt whether it's all worth it.

00:03:40.000 Sound fun, right?

00:03:42.000 Well, here's the second thing, though.

00:03:44.000 You will be a stronger, Tougher, more resilient person that will look around at your peers one day while they're worried about whether or not they're being called the right pronouns.

00:03:54.000 Be, you will have your direction, you'll have resolve, you'll have an intestinal fortitude, you'll have gusto that will run circles around an increasingly fragile society, and you will have what is so lacking in America today grittiness and toughness.

00:04:10.000 And that is something that I want to instill in every single young person.

00:04:13.000 So, yeah, it's going to be tough.

00:04:14.000 We here at Turning Point USA are here to help you get through that through our networking events, through our Young Women's Leadership Summit, through our chapter events, through the events like this tonight, so you know you're not alone.

00:04:23.000 But we want to try to continue to rise up the citizen.

00:04:27.000 Of young people and students to be able to take a stand.

00:04:29.000 But it's going to be tough, but it's worth it.

00:04:31.000 God bless you.

00:04:32.000 Thanks for being here tonight.

00:04:39.000 Hi, I wanted to ask, how would you advise that those of us who plan to stay in California effectively convince others to do the same, instilling the same passion to fight for a conservative California instead of fleeing to other conservative states?

00:04:53.000 Yeah, that's a great question, right?

00:04:54.000 So start local.

00:04:56.000 I think that for those of you that live in Orange County, take back Orange County.

00:05:00.000 Orange County is a great project.

00:05:02.000 Focus on it.

00:05:02.000 It's doable.

00:05:04.000 If you're not personally volunteering for local candidates, get involved.

00:05:09.000 Orange County is a great first step.

00:05:11.000 It really is on a variety of ways, whether it be congressional involvement, whether it be city council, school board, super important.

00:05:19.000 Look, you're not going to be able to change the whole state in just one election cycle.

00:05:23.000 It's not going to happen.

00:05:25.000 I know a lot of people were upset with the results of the recall.

00:05:28.000 I certainly was.

00:05:29.000 But I really was in support of the recall then and now.

00:05:33.000 I thought it was a great thing to show the people in charge in Sacramento that they're at least still going to have to get up and pretend that they represent their voters, spend a bunch of money.

00:05:42.000 And I think it also.

00:05:43.000 Invigorated a lot of you to get involved in the process that you otherwise would not have been involved in.

00:05:48.000 I thought it was a really beautiful thing.

00:05:49.000 So, and also I just got to say that from a political standpoint, which is not something that I'll just talk about personally, not on behalf of Turning Point USA in this sense, which is if the races you get involved from a congressional standpoint in Orange County, they can and will determine the future of the House of Representatives in Washington, D.C.

00:06:09.000 So all the while it might feel as if the state is lost, but there's five congressional districts in Orange County, or did they go down to four now with the new maps?

00:06:16.000 There's three now.

00:06:17.000 There used to be five, if I'm not mistaken, right?

00:06:19.000 Yeah.

00:06:20.000 There's four.

00:06:21.000 So those four, I don't know how they probably obliterated the maps, right?

00:06:24.000 But the direction of those four seats will be highly consequential to whether or not it'll be Speaker Pelosi or a Republican Speaker of the House, right?

00:06:33.000 That's a very, very important dividing line.

00:06:36.000 And so finally, I'll say with this, though, is that one of the keys to saving California is continually getting the churches to rise up and to speak truth.

00:06:45.000 And we have some pastors here in the audience.

00:06:48.000 That have done such an amazing job.

00:06:52.000 James Cadiz was here, Rob McCoy, Jack Hibbs, so many phenomenal people.

00:06:57.000 And then, look, if you believe California is your home and is your future, then don't allow someone to just automatically take your future and your home from you.

00:07:06.000 Fight for every inch.

00:07:08.000 And I believe that it's going to be a long term project, but there's a lot more hope for California than I think people realize.

00:07:15.000 Thank you.

00:07:15.000 God bless you.

00:07:16.000 I appreciate it.

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00:09:33.000 Hi, Darley.

00:09:33.000 My name is Jared.

00:09:34.000 I'm the president of the Turning Point Chapter at Urbellinda High School.

00:09:37.000 Awesome.

00:09:41.000 So last week on April 5th, 3-2 vote, my school board passed a resolution to ban critical race theory in my district.

00:09:52.000 So, my question is: what's the next steps to ensuring that we have a good education even after that ban?

00:09:59.000 That's great.

00:10:00.000 So, it's a two-part dance.

00:10:02.000 So, that's great.

00:10:03.000 Now, you need to say, okay, let's get pro-American curriculum in our schools.

00:10:07.000 So, what does that look like, right?

00:10:09.000 Hillsdale College has done a lot of work in this.

00:10:11.000 We're starting to do a lot at Turning Point USA.

00:10:13.000 But we have to teach people: what is the American story?

00:10:16.000 What is the proper way to view American history?

00:10:18.000 What is America?

00:10:19.000 Was it a mistake?

00:10:20.000 Was it something that just kind of fell out of the sky?

00:10:23.000 There's just a couple things I'll share here that I think could really excite high school students that they're definitely not taught in school.

00:10:29.000 America was summoned into existence at a time and a place that is very unusual.

00:10:34.000 In fact, it's almost never happened before in human history.

00:10:36.000 Most civilizations or countries stumble into existence.

00:10:40.000 They're not summoned into existence.

00:10:41.000 I want you to think about that.

00:10:43.000 There was a decision to create America.

00:10:46.000 China just kind of existed and, you know, it was kind of the Yangtze River Valley civilization and just kind of built into itself.

00:10:51.000 Indus River Valley into India and so on and so forth.

00:10:53.000 But America was a group of people that made a decision, founding fathers, we have a set of principles, we don't like what's happening, we're going to declare independence of things that are always true.

00:11:03.000 And I'm afraid that most young people are not just being taught that even worse, they're being taught the opposite.

00:11:08.000 They're being taught that the founding fathers were racist, bigoted slave owners.

00:11:11.000 And they don't know their history.

00:11:12.000 They don't know that the first anti slavery convention in America was hosted in Philadelphia by Benjamin Franklin in 1775.

00:11:18.000 They don't know that nine out of 13 states before the Constitution was ratified in 1787 had already independently abolished slavery.

00:11:26.000 A lot of young people were never taught that Vermont was the first state to abolish slavery in 1777, inspired by the Declaration of Independence.

00:11:33.000 So the next step is get your local school district to not just teach this, but inspire young people to be excited about the country they live in.

00:11:41.000 A lot of young people, I think, are unnecessarily depressed and negative about their life because they've been told the one thing that you have a yearning to associate with, your country, is awful.

00:11:52.000 Deep down, I think most people actually want to support their home.

00:11:55.000 And you kind of see that when you start to see like a Dodgers hat here and like a Rams hat here.

00:12:00.000 Like that's a different way of kind of showing association that you care about where you're from.

00:12:05.000 Yet the one thing they're trying to get rid of is the jersey of America.

00:12:09.000 Like, and that's something I think that excites people.

00:12:12.000 It creates happier lives.

00:12:14.000 It creates stronger communities.

00:12:15.000 When all of a sudden you're like, you know what?

00:12:17.000 I, here in California, have a direct connection to a time where people decided to say that self-government was a moral issue and that separation of powers and consent to the governed was worthy of protection and preservation.

00:12:28.000 And they were willing to do something about it. 0.67

00:12:31.000 I think that actually creates a much happier country to live in than one where you think everything is racist, bigoted, awful, colonialistic, homophobic, and backwards.

00:12:39.000 At some point, that only way you could solve that question is to revolutionize the country.

00:12:44.000 And that's what they're trying to get young people to do.

00:12:45.000 It's like if all that buildup was nothing but evil, then you might as well just burn it all down to the ground.

00:12:51.000 So, we as conservatives, and to answer your question in your Belinda, the home of Richard Nixon, if I'm not mistaken, right, is to do this, which is to say to your local school district, We want to create a curriculum that creates grateful and informed citizens and an informed sense of patriotism.

00:13:09.000 That is not political.

00:13:10.000 That is essential to the survival of the country.

00:13:13.000 Thanks for being here tonight.

00:13:14.000 God bless you.

00:13:19.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:13:20.000 My name is Jonathan.

00:13:21.000 I go to Cal State Fullerton.

00:13:22.000 I guess I have a simple question.

00:13:25.000 Like in a family full of conservatives, we're kind of the minority in our grand family.

00:13:31.000 I just want to know how I can converse with the rest of my family being liberal.

00:13:36.000 and especially my friends as well, without obviously causing discourse and too much hurt, I guess.

00:13:41.000 Yeah.

00:13:42.000 Well, never be the source of hurt.

00:13:44.000 That's my first piece of advice.

00:13:45.000 So don't be the one to call names or, you know, try to disassociate from people.

00:13:50.000 But I think every conservative here in this audience would agree that you lost friends, but they left you.

00:13:55.000 You didn't leave them.

00:13:57.000 And I never support the severing of friendships over politics.

00:14:01.000 But I'm also realistic.

00:14:02.000 It happens all the time where people stop being friends with you because of politics.

00:14:06.000 I bet every single person in this room could resonate with that.

00:14:09.000 So, look, this is a situation where you're going to have to balance.

00:14:13.000 Are you going to tell the truth when there might be a consequence to it, right?

00:14:17.000 And it's also how you say it.

00:14:19.000 It's also how you communicate it.

00:14:21.000 Having that balance of 100% grace with 100% truth, trying to be magnanimous in how you communicate, I think is really, really important.

00:14:29.000 But also, you know, understanding that in family dynamics, you have to prioritize whether or not you want the family to kind of stay together or whether or not you want to make a political point.

00:14:43.000 And I don't say this advice lightly.

00:14:44.000 There's some politics that should never, there's some families that should never discuss politics.

00:14:49.000 And there's an argument for that.

00:14:50.000 It's like they're so rigid in their beliefs, it's just going to cause a civil war.

00:14:54.000 Now, some people say, you know what?

00:14:56.000 I'm going to, you know, say what I want to say.

00:14:58.000 And I know, personally, dozens of examples of parents that don't talk to children anymore.

00:15:04.000 I think that's really unhealthy.

00:15:05.000 I think it's not good at all.

00:15:07.000 But it's a balance.

00:15:08.000 I think that everyone should know where you stand.

00:15:10.000 And then the final piece of advice is go to work on the family members where there's a little bit of openness.

00:15:15.000 If you believe that you're right, If we believe we're right, then start to send articles.

00:15:19.000 Ask questions.

00:15:20.000 Start to understand their points of where they think that they view the world in a certain way.

00:15:26.000 Like, well, I just want to help people.

00:15:27.000 Like, okay, then start to find things where all of a sudden left wing policies are not helping people, right?

00:15:32.000 Like, how exactly does it help people when the border's wide open and women are being sex trafficked across there every single day?

00:15:37.000 How does that help people exactly?

00:15:39.000 And start to ask those questions.

00:15:41.000 And then with your friends, I mean, I kind of answered that already.

00:15:44.000 Just, you know, you're probably going to lose friends, and they'll probably continue.

00:15:48.000 And also, know the difference between good faith arguments and bad faith arguments.

00:15:51.000 Do not waste your time in bad faith arguments.

00:15:53.000 Just don't.

00:15:54.000 If people are just putting their hands in their ears saying, I don't want to hear anymore, just disengage.

00:15:57.000 But if people are really curious and they're dialoguing with you, that's worth your time.

00:16:01.000 But don't waste your time.

00:16:03.000 And you could use your own prudence and your wisdom to navigate that.

00:16:05.000 Thanks for being here tonight.

00:16:06.000 Appreciate it.

00:16:12.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:16:13.000 I loved your comment about how you said we should encourage younger people to invest and buy property and buy land.

00:16:20.000 Recently, Florida's governor, Ron DeSantez, he passed SB, I think, 1044, I forgot the exact name.

00:16:28.000 He wants to teach financial literacy.

00:16:32.000 Is that something?

00:16:33.000 It's kind of surprising because I've seen a poll that said a lot of parents disagreed with schools teaching financial literacy.

00:16:39.000 And do you think that's something that, as a nation, can be pushed forward and financial literacy can be taught across all schools?

00:16:46.000 Yeah, I mean, it depends what the devil's in the details are.

00:16:49.000 What do they mean by financial literacy, right?

00:16:51.000 If the federal government is teaching us about financial literacy, certainly wouldn't exactly trust them on that.

00:16:57.000 Couldn't balance a budget to save their lives, right?

00:17:00.000 But no, I think financial literacy is super important.

00:17:02.000 But here's the thing is that, so if you take a financial literacy textbook from 2003 or whatever, right?

00:17:09.000 They'll say saving is good.

00:17:10.000 Save as much money as you can, right?

00:17:12.000 That's probably something you were taught in financial literacy.

00:17:14.000 That's actually really bad advice right now.

00:17:16.000 Like, you shouldn't be saving money right now.

00:17:18.000 You're going to lose it.

00:17:20.000 You're like, what do you mean?

00:17:21.000 Inflation.

00:17:21.000 Like, you're getting poorer every day that money's in a bank account.

00:17:25.000 So, yeah, people need to know that.

00:17:27.000 That's really important.

00:17:28.000 Now, I hope and I wish for a set of economic circumstances that reward good behavior.

00:17:33.000 and don't reward bad behavior.

00:17:35.000 Saving is a good behavior.

00:17:37.000 We should have a society that does reward saving.

00:17:39.000 But right now we don't.

00:17:40.000 Right now people get actively poorer when they have cash sitting in their bank account.

00:17:44.000 And so to kind of piggyback on this, I do support financial literacy.

00:17:49.000 I think it's super important.

00:17:51.000 The lack thereof is unbelievable to me.

00:17:53.000 I think that a lot of the financial models kind of prey on young people and their illiteracy when it comes to credit cards and debt and all of that.

00:18:00.000 And the first thing is, this is why I can't believe this is not, I want to start with financial literacy.

00:18:06.000 Like, okay, you want to go borrow $80,000 to go to some school to study some kind of super fringe degree?

00:18:11.000 Like, can we put some more checks and balances in for that before you actually know what you're signing up for?

00:18:17.000 There was an amazing poll that showed like 45 to 50% of young people are borrowing money, student loan debt, without their parents understanding how much money it actually is or their payment plan post graduation.

00:18:28.000 That's insane.

00:18:30.000 The way it used to work is you had to go dress up in a suit and tie and go to your local community bank.

00:18:35.000 And you'd have to persuade a banker to give you a loan to be able to go to college.

00:18:38.000 And you know what they would say?

00:18:39.000 Show me your grades.

00:18:40.000 What are you going to study?

00:18:41.000 And how are you going to pay our bank back?

00:18:43.000 And now you can go borrow $80,000 in your pajamas from your basement.

00:18:48.000 And your parents might not even know that.

00:18:51.000 And so, yeah, I'm a big supporter and an advocate of getting more people financially literate.

00:18:56.000 And finally, to be able to have young people own property is what we would call a conservatizing event.

00:19:04.000 People that own homes, they don't go burn Wendy's.

00:19:09.000 They don't.

00:19:10.000 When you have a mortgage, you don't go march in the streets against systemic inequality like you have responsibility.

00:19:15.000 We need to try to create a set of circumstances where more young people have responsibility in their lives.

00:19:21.000 The first of which is do you own property?

00:19:23.000 Do you own something that eventually could get more valuable and you have a reason to keep going to work?

00:19:29.000 When you're renting, that's not always the case.

00:19:31.000 And then you might say, well, Charlie, I own a car.

00:19:33.000 Well, that's a depreciating asset.

00:19:35.000 Well, actually, not anymore.

00:19:36.000 Amazingly, used cars are not a depreciating asset.

00:19:38.000 Everything's upside down, right?

00:19:39.000 Remember the financial literacy stuff?

00:19:41.000 It's like, dude.

00:19:42.000 The more you drive it, it's actually getting more value.

00:19:44.000 So strange.

00:19:45.000 That's not sustainable.

00:19:47.000 I'm just giving you a warning.

00:19:48.000 This stuff is not sustainable.

00:19:49.000 When you have cars that have 60,000 miles on them going more than what a used car did two years ago, that's like a fire alarm.

00:19:55.000 Something ain't right.

00:19:56.000 I'm telling you.

00:19:57.000 Not sustainable.

00:19:58.000 Thank you for your question.

00:19:59.000 Appreciate it.

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00:21:31.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:21:32.000 My name is Kiara, and I'm the president of the Turning Point USA chapter at San Diego State University.

00:21:38.000 Thank you.

00:21:41.000 As we enter into yet another very important election cycle, and with campaign ads popping up left and right, I find myself feeling torn on the Citizens United versus FEC ruling.

00:21:55.000 My question is what is the conservative approach to the Supreme Court's ruling?

00:21:59.000 That corporations' spending on election communications can be unlimited, that corporations are people and that their spending doesn't need to be regulated?

00:22:10.000 Yes.

00:22:10.000 So let me walk you through the great question, by the way.

00:22:12.000 And you do a wonderful job.

00:22:14.000 You gave one of the best school board speeches I've seen, by the way.

00:22:16.000 You did a phenomenal job.

00:22:18.000 You really did.

00:22:19.000 So it's a great question.

00:22:22.000 So let's go through the lawsuit.

00:22:23.000 The lawsuit was an organization called Citizens United, run by David Bossy.

00:22:27.000 And it was about a movie, actually.

00:22:29.000 The question was whether or not a movie that attacks a political candidate is political speech.

00:22:34.000 That it needs to be regulated by the Federal Election Commission.

00:22:37.000 Okay?

00:22:38.000 So it goes all the way up to the Supreme Court.

00:22:41.000 And there were a couple questions I want you to think about before I get to the opinion.

00:22:45.000 And a lot of the, even left wingers will agree that there might be some problems here, where there was a question in front of the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:22:52.000 Someone asked, they said, wait a second, would you consider, for example, a book written unfavorably about Hillary Clinton to be political speech that should be regulated?

00:23:04.000 And they said yes.

00:23:06.000 So I think that's incredibly dangerous.

00:23:09.000 I think that if all of a sudden my podcast, my radio program, my articles, and my books will start regulated as if it's a campaign ad on television, I think there's something very wrong with that.

00:23:20.000 In fact, that's what would have been the standard.

00:23:22.000 We would have expanded a speech bureaucracy that would go after anyone, any person, any time and say, that's the equivalent of running an ad on television.

00:23:30.000 That's the equivalent of running a 30-second ad.

00:23:33.000 That is an attack on journalism, on commentary, and speech.

00:23:36.000 But you do bring up a good point, which I will say I do not think it's healthy, nor do I think it's sustainable to have major corporations that, whether it be the pharmaceutical corporations or labor unions or kind of public sector unions or tech oligarchs like Reed Hastings or, you know, Reed Hoffman or, you know, any one of the big tech billionaires, Zuckerberg or Bill Gates, be able to parachute in and completely basically carpet bomb a race.

00:24:07.000 And make it where it matters less of what the candidate's message is, and it's just who's going to get the more outside money.

00:24:12.000 Now, this is an important point.

00:24:14.000 The left, they're always trying to repeal Citizens United.

00:24:18.000 So basically, the decision of the Cities United was you can spend as much money as you want, no matter what, there will be no restriction on it.

00:24:24.000 Okay?

00:24:25.000 Now, because of that, believe it or not, the left has always been trying to get rid of that.

00:24:29.000 In 2020, left wing groups spent $1.5 billion, conservative groups spent $900 million.

00:24:37.000 So it's actually the left that has been using this more in recent years, understanding they can pump a lot of what's called dark money into the system and trying to change, you know, persuasion and outcomes and all this.

00:24:48.000 Let me just talk about from a health of society standpoint.

00:24:51.000 I don't like it.

00:24:53.000 I do not like the idea that someone can just parachute in with $500 million, like Mark Zuckerberg, and change the way elections themselves are actually done.

00:25:03.000 So, what is the conservative approach?

00:25:05.000 I think the conservative approach should be the following that you make sure that political speech by individuals, commentators, podcasts, authors, and movies are protected no matter what.

00:25:14.000 That is not political speech.

00:25:15.000 However, I would support a law that is common sense and transparent that would say that if you're going to donate, you must be disclosed within 24 hours.

00:25:25.000 That there's no more anonymous donations.

00:25:27.000 We must know where it's coming from.

00:25:28.000 No more like giving through shell stuff or dark money.

00:25:31.000 We want to be able to see it.

00:25:32.000 And I do think that a reasonable cap on money and races is something that I think would actually de radicalize our politics.

00:25:38.000 When all of a sudden we're starting to say that the Pennsylvania Senate race is going to be an $185 million Senate race and Wisconsin's going to be a $110 million Senate race, what then ends up happening?

00:25:49.000 Unfortunately, massive corporations that don't always have our country's best interest at heart, like Disney, will come in and start to run ads.

00:25:56.000 And then candidates will then be beholden to those corporations to not represent their voters, but instead the people that drop the biggest ad spend towards the end of the campaign.

00:26:04.000 And I don't think that's a good thing.

00:26:06.000 In fact, I think we can have common cause on the left.

00:26:08.000 So I'm worried that if we just blanket say, yeah, repeal that decision, political speech from people like me would then soon be regulated.

00:26:15.000 But I do think that a common sense middle ground could be found where all of a sudden we try to make it seem, where we say there has to be some form of transparency and regulation with the amount of money pouring into some of these races. 0.75

00:26:26.000 And I don't know about you.

00:26:27.000 I'm so sick and tired of seeing these political ads already.

00:26:29.000 It is exhausting.

00:26:32.000 I don't think it's good to constantly see negative political ads about how awful things are on this person, and I don't think it's healthy or good.

00:26:37.000 Thank you for your question.

00:26:38.000 You're doing a great job.

00:26:39.000 Thank you.

00:26:44.000 So, Charlie, you've been a very strong supporter of President Trump, but when lockdowns descended on our country two years ago, President Trump did not take a strong stand for freedom.

00:26:54.000 He consistently refused to fire Dr. Fauci.

00:26:57.000 On March 20th, 2020, he gave a press conference where he said that Gavin Newsom and Andrew Cuomo locking down their states.

00:27:03.000 He said they're taking bold, strong steps, and I applaud them.

00:27:07.000 On April 22nd, he criticized Brian Kemp for reopening Georgia, and he also attacked Thomas Massey for criticizing the $2 trillion CARES Act, which has contributed at least as much to this inflationary crisis as anything Biden's done.

00:27:19.000 So when Trump did not stand up for our liberties, why should we stand for him as opposed to, say, Ron DeSantis in 2024?

00:27:25.000 Okay, fair question.

00:27:28.000 So let me just first take my opinion.

00:27:30.000 Let's just so you know where I stand.

00:27:32.000 So I wrote a book.

00:27:33.000 That was published in February 2020 called the MAGA Doctrine, defending Trump and his policies and all that, you're right.

00:27:40.000 And then, with all of that, I came out in March and April saying that this Fauci guy's got to go.

00:27:45.000 I was against lockdowns, federal spending.

00:27:47.000 So I've been consistent all the way through, even publicly disagreeing with the Trump administration.

00:27:52.000 I think Trump's instincts were right.

00:27:54.000 I will push back a little bit.

00:27:55.000 I think his instincts were right.

00:27:57.000 And I think he was suffocated and unfortunately overwhelmed by a deep state medical bureaucracy that scared the living daylights out of him.

00:28:05.000 And I believe that he probably has some form of regret that he would have handled things a little bit differently.

00:28:11.000 Now, I'm not defending it because I think the lockdowns were the worst mistake in American history.

00:28:16.000 I think they did more damage than we'll ever know.

00:28:18.000 And I think also the pushing of the vaccine on the American population is something that will be studied for years to come that I think in a lot of different ways, we still do not know the entire story behind that, especially from a mandatory perspective.

00:28:31.000 And in Trump's defense, he never supported mandatory vaccines.

00:28:34.000 Now, with the Fauci thing, firing Fauci, I think, would have been a mistake.

00:28:41.000 But that doesn't mean that I don't think he should have been handled.

00:28:43.000 You should have been at Fauci on a 30-person committee.

00:28:46.000 And send him off to the hinterlands and have him be on some form of bureaucracy where they just meet all year and issue a report.

00:28:52.000 Firing Fauci would have made him into a cable news pundit, and he immediately would have been able to go on TV all the time and would have been the I told you so, they fired me.

00:28:59.000 I think it would have created a bigger liability.

00:29:02.000 But I agree, he should have been sent off to the CDC office in Fairbanks, Alaska to investigate pathogens and polar bears.

00:29:11.000 So your question is why should.

00:29:13.000 So then finally, you asked a question, a hypothetical question in 2024.

00:29:17.000 So, I'm going to talk personally on this, not on behalf of Turning Point USA, on the political side of this.

00:29:24.000 It's pretty clear Trump is going to run in 2024, and people have mixed opinions on that.

00:29:29.000 Ron DeSantis may or may not run.

00:29:31.000 I am Ron DeSantis' biggest cheerleader.

00:29:33.000 I think he's phenomenal.

00:29:35.000 I think he's America's greatest governor.

00:29:37.000 I think he's terrific.

00:29:39.000 So, I've said this before, and everyone will have their own opinions on this.

00:29:44.000 That issue aside, which I would give, you know, I believe Trump did more good than bad, and you've seen how bad Biden did on that particular issue.

00:29:54.000 We definitely have to look at the totality of the presidency as a whole.

00:29:57.000 And he had our country. 0.88

00:29:59.000 We were experiencing a blue collar boom.

00:30:00.000 We were energy independent. 0.75

00:30:01.000 The southern border was under control.

00:30:03.000 Putin wasn't invading countries.

00:30:04.000 I could go on and on and on.

00:30:06.000 The question is did he earn a chance to be able to run for a second term?

00:30:10.000 I believe, given the shenanigans in 2020, the mail in ballots going in every single direction, and all of this, I believe at the very least he needs to be given an uninterrupted case to tell the Republican base why.

00:30:24.000 Why he wants a second term and what he would do differently.

00:30:26.000 And I've already said he has my support.

00:30:28.000 If he runs again in 2024, there's no mystery behind that.

00:30:30.000 With that being said, Ron DeSantis, I believe very well could be a once in a generation political statesman.

00:30:35.000 I believe Ron DeSantis could be in the mold of Churchill, Lincoln, and Washington.

00:30:39.000 But I said I think.

00:30:40.000 But here's what I know I know Donald Trump was a phenomenal president.

00:30:44.000 I know that he fulfilled his promises, and I know he would do it again.

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00:32:09.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:32:09.000 So, my name is Max Mickelson.

00:32:11.000 I'm the chapter president of Orange County School of the Arts, Turning Point chapter.

00:32:16.000 And that's like a radical right wing university, right?

00:32:23.000 So earlier this year, as you may have heard from my friend Alex Lerusso, ALX, I started a chapter there.

00:32:30.000 We were egged, harassed, vandalized, had basically threatened attacks from administration, all kinds of things.

00:32:39.000 So I kind of have a two part question.

00:32:41.000 First question is, Do you think Elon Musk will free Alex?

00:32:47.000 So, yeah, ALX is banned from Twitter.

00:32:49.000 I think so.

00:32:49.000 If Elon sorts this out, I support that, and hopefully he'll free me, too.

00:32:53.000 Thank you.

00:32:55.000 And my more serious question is: what's your message to.

00:32:58.000 I'm always trying to recruit people to the chapter, and a lot of the response I get is: oh, I don't want to be harassed.

00:33:03.000 I don't want to lose friends.

00:33:04.000 I don't want to be egged, basically.

00:33:07.000 And so, what would be your message to people who believe in conservative ideas, want to get involved, but I guess don't want to.

00:33:15.000 suffer the backlash that comes with it?

00:33:17.000 Yeah, that's, I mean, it kind of goes to the first question, right?

00:33:19.000 Which is, you're going to get it.

00:33:20.000 It's worth it.

00:33:21.000 Hold the line and strengthen your resolve.

00:33:25.000 I would love to go speak at one of these art schools, and I'll tell you why.

00:33:29.000 The left has destroyed art in our country in a way that I don't think we can actually appreciate.

00:33:36.000 And I, this is kind of like one of my kind of, you would say, kind of like unexpected kind of focuses.

00:33:44.000 I think that our society has become so aesthetically ugly.

00:33:47.000 the more the left has taken things over, from architecture to what we consider to be art, to music, to dramas, to this garbage they call, you know, television at night.

00:33:59.000 And so I believe art should try to strive towards the divine, the beautiful, the good, and the true.

00:34:06.000 There's two rules in architecture that used to exist in Western society.

00:34:11.000 You should try to have buildings that point upwards to God, and the circle is the perfect shape because it has no beginning or end.

00:34:18.000 Just like God.

00:34:18.000 Very two simple rules.

00:34:20.000 We get away.

00:34:21.000 You just look at Western architecture now, it's just an amalgamation of like the very same deconstruction ideology that we're seeing right now.

00:34:29.000 And so there's one of my favorite people to follow.

00:34:32.000 He passed away recently, Roger Scruton.

00:34:33.000 He was amazing.

00:34:34.000 He talked a lot about objective beauty and also talks about more fundamental things, which is do we believe there are such things as objective standards?

00:34:41.000 You didn't ask anything about this.

00:34:42.000 I'm just, you know, kind of riffing on it.

00:34:45.000 But I'm sure you love it.

00:34:46.000 But that's what's so interesting is that actually where these discussions are the most robust is in the art school.

00:34:53.000 So, the question is, do you believe a signed urinal is art and beautiful?

00:34:57.000 This was a question in the 1920s.

00:34:58.000 I can't remember. 0.99

00:35:00.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:35:01.000 Duchamp?

00:35:02.000 That's right.

00:35:02.000 Marshall Duchamp, where he signed a urinal.

00:35:04.000 I don't think that's art.

00:35:05.000 I think that's a place to relieve yourself.

00:35:09.000 But that was considered to be art.

00:35:11.000 And I think that's actually directly connected to a lot of the philosophical deconstruction that we're living through right now.

00:35:16.000 If all of a sudden art is nothing more than what your own opinion of what is beautiful, well, then why can't you also have all these kind of other societal cancers all of a sudden start to infect?

00:35:27.000 Every single portion of American society.

00:35:28.000 So, okay, so what do you say to friends that don't want to get involved?

00:35:32.000 Look, you can only push them so far, but it's all about leadership.

00:35:36.000 It really is.

00:35:36.000 And so if you're the leader, you know, you're going to have to say, hey, I'll take the hits for you.

00:35:40.000 Just help me out.

00:35:41.000 Try to be part of it.

00:35:42.000 And so there's two types of people.

00:35:44.000 You could be a George Washington or you could be a John Hancock.

00:35:46.000 George Washington went right into battle, stared the bullets in the eye, and went straight into there.

00:35:51.000 John Hancock, of course, we know he signed the Declaration.

00:35:53.000 No mystery he was involved, but he never wore a uniform of the Continental Army and was the number one financier of the effort.

00:36:00.000 There's people that are the fighters and the people that help the fighters.

00:36:03.000 And both are equally important.

00:36:04.000 So if people are afraid to get involved, be like, hey, can you be a covert graphic designer for our Turning Point USA chapter?

00:36:11.000 Something would tell me you guys would probably come up with some of the coolest memes in the world at your school.

00:36:16.000 So there's a lot of different ways to get people involved.

00:36:18.000 But you as a leader are the most important thing.

00:36:21.000 We have a crisis of leadership right now in our country.

00:36:24.000 George S. Patton had a great quote, which is lead, follow, or get out of the way.

00:36:28.000 And leadership is hard.

00:36:30.000 But a lot of people think they want to be leaders, but in reality, they just want the perks of leadership.

00:36:35.000 They want the corner office, the Instagram followers, the chauffeured car, but they don't really want to work till 2 a.m. on a Sunday morning to go reach a deadline, make payroll, borrow money, fire, hire people.

00:36:46.000 They don't want to have to do that.

00:36:48.000 Leadership is hard, but it's necessary because it requires you to take responsibility.

00:36:52.000 A leader is someone who does not point any fingers except in themselves when things go wrong, and that's what you're doing as a Turning Point USA chapter leader.

00:37:00.000 So God bless you, men.

00:37:01.000 Thank you so much.

00:37:01.000 Appreciate it.

00:37:09.000 Hello, Charlie Kirk.

00:37:10.000 My name is Michael, a student here at CSU Fullerton and a member of the TPUSA club at Fullerton.

00:37:14.000 And thank you very much for coming.

00:37:17.000 I greatly enjoyed the speech.

00:37:19.000 Anyway, so my question, with foreign leaders being in power for decades to even a lifetime, and with the presidency in the United States being changed out every four to eight years, how do you effectively deter and combat a foreign entity when they could essentially just wait it out for a president who is much more lenient on foreign policy?

00:37:41.000 Because four to eight years compared to a lifetime is a drop in the bucket.

00:37:44.000 Sure, that's a good question.

00:37:46.000 So there's benefits and there's disadvantages to having term limits.

00:37:49.000 I think the benefits far outweigh the negatives.

00:37:52.000 Let me kind of give you a very obvious one.

00:37:55.000 If you have a really bad leader, you should have a way to get rid of that leader, right?

00:37:58.000 That's a pretty obvious one, right?

00:38:00.000 We believe in checks and balances.

00:38:02.000 That's a fundamental moral good, we believe.

00:38:04.000 It's part of what it means to actually have self government in the West, to be able to check and balance against bad leaders.

00:38:10.000 But you bring up a point, right?

00:38:12.000 You know, how do you fight back against Iran or Russia or China that can just wait it out?

00:38:18.000 The answer to your question is exactly why the deep state was built and how they justified it, and it was used against us.

00:38:26.000 So, to answer your question, in the 1960s, we all complained about the deep state, but we never actually asked the question, why was the deep state created?

00:38:33.000 Yeah, it was sort of control things and all this, but they weren't actually doing it in secret in the 60s.

00:38:37.000 They said, listen, we're up against foreign adversaries that are there forever.

00:38:40.000 We need to create a permanent bureaucracy in Langley, Virginia.

00:38:43.000 That runs the Central Intelligence Agency, formerly OSS, and they'll always be there, therefore they'll be the ones that'll actually be able to be sustained.

00:38:51.000 Yeah, except what happens when they become corrupt to the core and spy on a sitting president of the United States, you know, start to leak information illegally and they actually go against the will of the people, right?

00:38:59.000 So I would only push back to your question in one regard.

00:39:02.000 We kind of do have a permanent bureaucracy in our country, right?

00:39:06.000 We just have kind of different people that come in to try to manage it.

00:39:09.000 Does that make sense?

00:39:10.000 Where it's like, yeah, we have a new president, but the FBI doesn't change.

00:39:14.000 DOJ doesn't change, the IRS doesn't change.

00:39:17.000 And look, I will say this that, you know, there's a temptation to be like, oh yeah, a dictator could just fix these problems.

00:39:25.000 They can wave a one.

00:39:26.000 I know that's not what you're saying at times, but I think that we need to do everything we possibly can to resist that.

00:39:32.000 That separation of powers and believing that a single person should not have the dominance over the many, that the many need to rule the few, the few should not rule the many, is something that will actually allow the civilization to survive a lot longer.

00:39:47.000 than the Potemkin village of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:39:49.000 So CCP or Saudi Arabia or Iran or Russia might be able to wait it out, but they're actually sitting on a much more, I would say, destructive set of circumstances because I do not believe dictatorships are sustainable long-term.

00:40:05.000 I don't.

00:40:07.000 I think they can be passed down, but eventually there'll be fault lines, divisions, civil war, and hopefully a citizen-led movement to displace them.

00:40:13.000 So thank you.

00:40:14.000 I appreciate it.

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00:41:32.000 Hi, how are you?

00:41:33.000 I'm a huge fan.

00:41:35.000 My name is Gabby, and I am here to ask you a question.

00:41:40.000 How many believe that California needs help in saving California?

00:41:45.000 Well, I believe that we need help in getting Newsom out.

00:41:50.000 And so my question to you is, I obviously support this candidate right here, so I was wondering, and I wanted to ask you, what are your thoughts on Anthony Tremino, and if you are still living in California?

00:42:05.000 What are your thoughts on him?

00:42:06.000 And would you support him?

00:42:08.000 So I'll answer this personally, not on behalf of Turning Point.

00:42:10.000 I have to separate the two.

00:42:12.000 It's because we want to keep the event educational in nature.

00:42:15.000 So I'll just give you my own personal beliefs.

00:42:17.000 So, yeah, I think highly of Anthony.

00:42:19.000 I had a chance to pray with him up in Rockland.

00:42:21.000 Don't know enough about the other candidates to endorse yet, but pretty impressive guy, I got to say.

00:42:26.000 Awesome family, very articulate, very charismatic.

00:42:29.000 But, yeah, haven't made my mind up yet.

00:42:32.000 But in the recall, I was a big elder guy.

00:42:34.000 I'm a big fan of Larry Elder.

00:42:36.000 I know he's not running again, but I made my allegiance there.

00:42:39.000 But I will say that to Anthony's credit, he has some of the most passionate and dedicated grassroots volunteers I've seen in a candidacy in quite some time.

00:42:48.000 They were up at Berkeley tabling yesterday.

00:42:50.000 Like, it's pretty amazing.

00:42:51.000 On UC Berkeley campus, like, there's some resolve to that.

00:42:55.000 And I got to say, the one thing I am convicted by personally, spending time with Anthony, he really has a heart for this state and to turn it around.

00:43:02.000 So you're supporting a good man.

00:43:04.000 Thank you.

00:43:04.000 I appreciate that.

00:43:11.000 Good evening, Charlie.

00:43:12.000 My name is Johnny, and I'm an MBA student at Cal State Fullerton.

00:43:15.000 And like many other students and conservatives here, I believe this movement that we're starting is created at the grassroots level, which in turn starts in the classroom.

00:43:24.000 So my question to you is this.

00:43:26.000 What do you feel is the biggest problem in the collegiate education system, and how do we fix this moving forward if we wish for our movement to continue to gain ground?

00:43:35.000 Yeah, man.

00:43:35.000 I mean, the biggest problem with the collegiate education system is the collegiate education system.

00:43:40.000 I mean, it's top to bottom, rotten to the core.

00:43:43.000 College is right for some people.

00:43:45.000 It's not right for most people.

00:43:46.000 It just isn't.

00:43:47.000 It's a racket and a cartel for a lot of people.

00:43:50.000 I have a book coming out called The College Scam, where I put forward a 10-count indictment against the current state of college that I think will blow you away.

00:43:58.000 So, for example, I'm not going to put you on the spot, but I just want you to think for a second.

00:44:03.000 What do you think the national graduation rate from college is?

00:44:06.000 It's 59%.

00:44:07.000 Raise your hand if you know someone that dropped out of college.

00:44:10.000 Every hand goes up.

00:44:11.000 41% of people that go to college don't graduate.

00:44:14.000 That's demoralizing.

00:44:15.000 They leave with debt.

00:44:16.000 They leave with less direction.

00:44:17.000 They never should have gone to college in the first place.

00:44:20.000 Now, that's only one part of it, not to mention the student loan burdens, right, where people are borrowing money they don't have to study things that don't matter, to find jobs that don't exist, to go into a job market where everything's hyperinflated, where that piece of paper means less and less and less.

00:44:33.000 A vast majority of people going to college are not trying to get their MBA, which is a great reason to go to college as long as it's not completely woke.

00:44:39.000 But they're getting sociology degrees.

00:44:41.000 They're getting degrees that don't exactly have a highly, let's say, a very competitive kind of standpoint to what that degree would be, especially where people are looking to hire right now.

00:44:54.000 We need more people in the muscular class in America.

00:44:57.000 We need more plumbers, electricians, and welders, and police officers, and firefighters, and entrepreneurs.

00:45:04.000 And we need to not demean them or diminish them.

00:45:08.000 We need to elevate muscular labor in our country.

00:45:10.000 If you ask me, we have way more than enough people that studied North African lesbian poetry in the last couple of years and that have this huge debt burden, and they don't really know where their place is.

00:45:26.000 So, look, top to bottom, college is doing a lot of damage to our country.

00:45:29.000 I wish that wasn't the case.

00:45:30.000 I don't think it has to be the case.

00:45:32.000 College can be awesome.

00:45:33.000 Hillsdale College is a great example of that.

00:45:36.000 If every college were like Hillsdale College, I'd have a completely different opinion.

00:45:39.000 I've spent time at Hillsdale College.

00:45:40.000 I've got to know Dr. Larry Arm.

00:45:42.000 You know what they try to do from day one?

00:45:44.000 They tell you that you don't know everything, and there's something here at this college that's special, and you're going to go on a journey to discover it.

00:45:50.000 They also say this.

00:45:51.000 They say, we're going to complete the whole human being, the mind, body, and soul.

00:45:55.000 We're going to read things that are ancient and beautiful and good, and you're going to really wrestle with the most important ideas and topics.

00:46:01.000 That doesn't happen a lot at universities anymore.

00:46:03.000 Instead, it's, hey, You have your own opinion of truth.

00:46:07.000 Who's to say what is good and beautiful?

00:46:09.000 And kind of just go have fun along the way.

00:46:12.000 So, look, not to mention, I just want to say this about college in general, is that for parents out there, just be very, you know, pray about this and be filled with wisdom.

00:46:22.000 If you're pushing your child to go to college because of you, that's a bad reason.

00:46:27.000 Most kids going to college believe they don't want to be there.

00:46:30.000 Now, you might say, oh, they don't know what's good for them.

00:46:32.000 Okay, there might be an argument to that.

00:46:34.000 But it's also them that's borrowing the money.

00:46:36.000 Maybe it's not.

00:46:36.000 Maybe you're paying for it.

00:46:37.000 That's a different dynamic.

00:46:38.000 But I, Berkeley yesterday, this one kid is $85,000 in student loan debt.

00:46:42.000 I said, do you want to be here?

00:46:43.000 He said, no, my parents are making me be here.

00:46:44.000 I said, that's quite an operation there, right?

00:46:47.000 Like, go borrow $85,000 in your name because your parents are making you do it.

00:46:51.000 Like, that's not good.

00:46:53.000 It's not sustainable.

00:46:55.000 So we need less people going to college.

00:46:56.000 We need more people to start businesses.

00:46:58.000 We need more entrepreneurs.

00:46:59.000 We need more people to do things.

00:47:01.000 And we need more people to be filled with integrity and courage and character and less people to be filled with postmodern, secular, atheistic ideas.

00:47:10.000 Where they start questioning the most.

00:47:11.000 I had a woman yesterday at UC Berkeley come up to me at the table.

00:47:14.000 She said, Charlie, we don't know what human beings are.

00:47:17.000 We're just a collection of cells.

00:47:18.000 And I said, Only at a university campus could you be filled with something that is so unwise to spend so much time on something so fundamentally deranged as that question.

00:47:28.000 And she really was wrestling with it.

00:47:29.000 She said, There is no fundamental difference between a human, we call a human, and a goldfish.

00:47:34.000 And I said, Listen, I don't have a college degree, I didn't go to college.

00:47:37.000 Goldfish, they don't write symphonies.

00:47:40.000 And she's like, You're right.

00:47:44.000 Thanks for your question.

00:47:45.000 I appreciate it.

00:47:50.000 Hi, folks.

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00:48:48.000 So, I have a question that might be a little bit different. 0.84

00:48:50.000 I want to ask why you're a Christian.

00:48:52.000 I'm a Christian.

00:48:54.000 It's true.

00:48:56.000 Sunday is Easter.

00:48:58.000 And so, look, we're all made in the image of God.

00:49:02.000 The universe that we live in right now was created by someone who loves us.

00:49:07.000 And the Bible tells us this.

00:49:08.000 The Bible has one author, 66 books of telling the story.

00:49:11.000 And look, we're all made in that image of God.

00:49:14.000 And the gospel can be summarized in four words, three words, two words, and one word.

00:49:18.000 Four words, Jesus took my place.

00:49:21.000 Three words, him for me.

00:49:22.000 Two words, substitutionary atonement.

00:49:25.000 And one word, grace.

00:49:26.000 We don't earn it.

00:49:27.000 We don't start to do a lot of good things to be able to have eternal life.

00:49:32.000 I'm a Christian because I had a collision course with Jesus Christ in fifth grade.

00:49:36.000 Changed my life, gave my life to the Lord, and every single year it started to mean more to me.

00:49:40.000 As I got older, I realized, like, wow, I'm broken.

00:49:42.000 I am, you know, there's something not right with me.

00:49:45.000 It's like, yeah, that's original sin.

00:49:46.000 But Jesus is there to give us something we did not earn, to give us something we do not deserve, to be able to get back into true and real communion with the God who loves us.

00:49:56.000 And it's true.

00:49:58.000 You look at the archaeological evidence, the evidence for the resurrection.

00:50:00.000 The evidence through Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the book of Acts.

00:50:04.000 You look at how there's never been an archaeological discovery that disproves the Bible.

00:50:08.000 All that things can be done with reason, but there's one final reason why I'm a Christian.

00:50:12.000 It's less because of this and more because of this.

00:50:14.000 When you start to open up your heart and your soul and all of a sudden have the humility that you're just kind of a speck in this massive cosmic creation, all of a sudden, I think many people in this audience that might be a little skeptical, all of a sudden, that Lord who does love you is going to all of a sudden come into your life in a way that you might not expect.

00:50:31.000 And so, celebrate that Easter.

00:50:33.000 And if you haven't given your life to the Lord, He sent His Son Jesus Christ for you today.

00:50:39.000 Thank you.

00:50:42.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:50:43.000 I'm running for a local school board here in Orange County.

00:50:51.000 Thank you.

00:50:57.000 When I get elected, what is the most precious issue that I could focus on to make the biggest impact in our public schools?

00:51:05.000 First of all, God bless you for running and thank you for your courage and your conviction.

00:51:08.000 It's just awesome.

00:51:10.000 So, first, you'll be demonized, slandered, smeared.

00:51:14.000 I just kind of went through all that, especially if you go on a school board.

00:51:17.000 But no, we're going to have your back in more ways than one to be able to do the right thing and to stand with conviction.

00:51:22.000 So, look, there's a lot of different things that I think are incredibly important if you're on a school board.

00:51:27.000 Number one, you've got to ask questions about textbooks, curriculum appropriation of funding, to make sure that there's policies in place that schools will never be locked down again and making sure kids are not wearing masks.

00:51:36.000 I was driving in. Beverly Hills today, and I saw groups of children walking on the side of the street coming out of Notre Dame Academy right near Beverly Hills, all wearing masks outside.

00:51:47.000 And that's nothing short of child abuse.

00:51:48.000 It's child abuse to put a mask on a child.

00:51:51.000 It's bad for their development, it's bad for their spiritual development, it's bad for their linguistic development.

00:51:55.000 But the most important thing that you can get done as a school board is be a relentless hawk for transparency and accountability.

00:52:03.000 You need to be the public sector teacher union's worst nightmare.

00:52:06.000 You need to be asking questions they don't want asked.

00:52:08.000 You need to follow the money.

00:52:09.000 You need to find out whether or not they're teaching gender transition surgery nonsense to five, six, and seven-year-olds. 0.67

00:52:15.000 And then you need to channel righteous indignation and not put up with their excuses, their delay tactics, their nonsensical one-liners like, oh, it's all about equity. 0.85

00:52:25.000 No, it's not.

00:52:26.000 It's not about equity.

00:52:27.000 It's not about teaching children.

00:52:28.000 You are grooming children to be something that they shouldn't be, and I'm not going to put up with it.

00:52:34.000 So the most important thing is you need to have courage, which, look, you do have, but then you need to have a mission.

00:52:38.000 Your mission is not to be liked.

00:52:40.000 Your mission is not going to be like voted the most popular person in the school board.

00:52:43.000 Your mission is to protect the innocence of children and lead them through truth and to create and form patriots.

00:52:49.000 God bless you.

00:52:55.000 Okay, so in closing, I love California.

00:52:58.000 I have a couple asks out of you.

00:53:00.000 Do not give up on this state.

00:53:02.000 And you might be cynical in all this, focus on Orange County.

00:53:05.000 It's a beautiful place.

00:53:06.000 People are waking up.

00:53:07.000 They really are desiring a change.

00:53:11.000 Get involved in local races, get involved in city council races.

00:53:14.000 Know who's running for state senate, know who's running for state house.

00:53:16.000 Help on the congressional side, all up and down the ballot.

00:53:19.000 Get involved in voter registration.

00:53:21.000 I mean, people right now, I'm telling you, they're opening their eyes in record numbers, especially in the Latino community.

00:53:26.000 There are huge opportunities that are otherwise would not be happening.

00:53:31.000 And then finally, just keep in your prayers and keep in what you're doing, what Turning Point USA is doing on the front lines on high school and college campuses across the country.

00:53:41.000 I believe it's some of the most important work to make sure that we pass down American values to future generations.

00:53:47.000 We're working really hard, traveling the country.

00:53:49.000 Last year, I traveled 330 days.

00:53:51.000 last year.

00:53:52.000 We're doing three podcasts a day, three hours of radio a day.

00:53:56.000 If you're not yet subscribed to our podcast, please consider subscribing and thank you for considering.

00:54:01.000 You guys can take out your phone really easily and subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

00:54:04.000 All of this content will be rebroadcasted there.

00:54:08.000 But in closing, I believe the momentum we are seeing of regular, normal, everyday people running for office that are starting to ask questions, it is the rise of the citizen against the regime.

00:54:19.000 And isn't that the most American thing to do?

00:54:22.000 which is regular, everyday, normal people, rejecting the cynicism, rejecting the negativity, and saying instead, this is still my country, that the many are going to rule the few, and that I'm not going to put up with these edicts, these orders, these mandates, and these double standards.

00:54:38.000 Instead, we're going to renew this idea of citizen government by and for the people.

00:54:44.000 And we've been given this gift by the American founding fathers, and it's up to us to conserve and preserve it.

00:54:51.000 Role in helping make that happen every single day.

00:54:54.000 God bless you guys.

00:54:55.000 God bless California.

00:54:56.000 God bless Orange County.

00:54:57.000 Talk to you soon.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 27, 2026

From the Archive: Charlie at Cal State Fullerton

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