The Charlie Kirk Show - From the Archive: Charlie’s 2022 Live Free Tour Q&A at UNC Charlotte

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.

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00:01:20.000 Hello, Charlie.

00:01:21.000 How are you doing this evening?

00:01:24.000 My question to you is Do you believe that there's a direct link between Christianity and conservatism?

00:01:30.000 So that's a good question.

00:01:31.000 So let me answer it differently first. 0.68

00:01:33.000 I get the question Charlie, can I be a conservative without being a Christian? 0.82

00:01:35.000 Of course you can.

00:01:36.000 Yes.

00:01:37.000 You're welcome aboard as long as you believe in the natural law, liberty, and freedom.

00:01:40.000 You know, you believe in our core tenets.

00:01:42.000 But I do not believe you can have a cogent conservative worldview or philosophy without at least first theism and definitely without some sort of biblical view.

00:01:51.000 You can't.

00:01:52.000 Because you're always going to be deriving it back to what standard, what moral worldview, what basis.

00:01:56.000 Now, said differently, you could be an atheist.

00:01:58.000 You're an atheist here tonight.

00:01:59.000 God bless you.

00:02:00.000 Haha, glad you're here.

00:02:02.000 And no, seriously, I mean that.

00:02:05.000 And you could believe everything that I believe politically.

00:02:08.000 I would just probably say you derived it from a theistic Christian worldview, if that makes sense.

00:02:13.000 So, do I think they're linked together?

00:02:15.000 So, let me say this.

00:02:16.000 I think if you are a Bible believing Christian, you should be a conservative as well.

00:02:20.000 You know, conserving the good, the true, and the beautiful, protecting the vulnerable, those that can't protect themselves, using strength to protect the weak, not the strength to crush the weak, all these things that conservatives believe.

00:02:28.000 At the same time, I do believe in a movement that is not only for Christians because we live in a pluralistic society of differences of opinions.

00:02:38.000 I'm always going to own the fact that I'm a Christian, as evidenced by inviting Frank right up to just witness for you at the beginning.

00:02:44.000 He did a great job, didn't he?

00:02:45.000 That was great.

00:02:46.000 He really did.

00:02:47.000 But it is a movement where we are trying to fight for liberty.

00:02:52.000 You might think liberty is just an accident of evolution.

00:02:55.000 I think liberty is God's idea, not man's idea.

00:02:57.000 Does that answer your question?

00:02:58.000 Thank you.

00:02:59.000 Thank you.

00:03:01.000 Hi.

00:03:02.000 So honestly, I just wanted to ask how your wife and baby are doing.

00:03:05.000 Thank you.

00:03:07.000 That's very kind.

00:03:08.000 Baby is nine weeks today.

00:03:09.000 Praise God.

00:03:11.000 And we're very happy.

00:03:13.000 She's doing wonderful.

00:03:13.000 Thank you.

00:03:14.000 I think they're watching right now.

00:03:15.000 So, and it changes your life in every way possible.

00:03:19.000 Highly recommend.

00:03:19.000 10 out of 10.

00:03:20.000 You should do it.

00:03:21.000 So, God bless you.

00:03:22.000 Thank you.

00:03:25.000 Hi.

00:03:26.000 To address your previous assertion that race means nothing, critical race theory is not being taught in schools.

00:03:33.000 It is an academic theory that's pretty much delegated only to higher academia.

00:03:39.000 They're not teaching it in schools.

00:03:41.000 Your explanation of it was an oversimplification.

00:03:44.000 You address the real history behind it, unlike most people.

00:03:49.000 And why, if race means nothing, does it affect our history?

00:03:52.000 Say 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre.

00:03:54.000 Why is there such evil history with something that supposedly means nothing?

00:03:58.000 Okay, so first of all, you're wrong.

00:04:00.000 It is being taught in elementary school.

00:04:01.000 I'll give you an example.

00:04:02.000 Not only is it being taught, it's being enforced.

00:04:05.000 So in Denver, there is a playground where they say, white families not allowed. 0.64

00:04:12.000 Would you support that? 0.98

00:04:15.000 That seems like a ridiculous edge case. 0.81

00:04:18.000 So I'll give you another example.

00:04:19.000 Actually, in the National Education Association's training manual, which is the largest teacher union in the country, they had a seminar on how to teach critical race theory to kids.

00:04:30.000 That sounds like it's in our schools, doesn't it?

00:04:33.000 What that is, is it's literally just common sense.

00:04:36.000 It's saying that this is real history.

00:04:38.000 This is what has happened in the past.

00:04:41.000 Right.

00:04:41.000 So, what matters.

00:04:42.000 Okay, got it.

00:04:43.000 So, for example, would you say that black only dormitories is wrong?

00:04:49.000 It certainly creates a sense of community.

00:04:50.000 I don't see any problem with that.

00:04:52.000 We have sororities, we have male only dorms.

00:04:56.000 So, racial differences are irrelevant and immaterial, chromosomal differences actually do matter.

00:04:56.000 Right.

00:05:02.000 But let me ask you a question.

00:05:04.000 Are there differences between races?

00:05:06.000 No, not biologically.

00:05:08.000 Then why would we have different dormitories for races?

00:05:11.000 Culture. 0.91

00:05:13.000 Segregation is what you're arguing for, my friend.

00:05:16.000 No, sir. 1.00

00:05:17.000 How is it not segregation to have blacks in their own dorm? 0.91

00:05:22.000 You've just pigeonholed me, essentially. 0.98

00:05:26.000 You've essentially just like.

00:05:28.000 You've distracted from my original argument.

00:05:30.000 No, no.

00:05:31.000 You did that to yourself.

00:05:32.000 Let's reemphasize.

00:05:33.000 So, Ibram X. Kendi argues, who is one of the leading thinkers of critical theory, Race theory, discrimination today to atone for discrimination of yesterday.

00:05:42.000 We have black only graduation ceremonies at Columbia University, black only dormitories across the country, for example, at Western Washington University.

00:05:50.000 Can you join me today in saying black only dormitories are evil, wrong, and it's segregation?

00:05:55.000 You still haven't answered my question about why this history simultaneously means nothing?

00:06:01.000 Well, I'm happy to answer that, but the fact you're dodging segregation in America, why is that?

00:06:08.000 I'm arguing against segregation. 0.64

00:06:09.000 So you're against black only dormitories? 0.99

00:06:11.000 Yes.

00:06:12.000 Well, you said it was a force of community.

00:06:14.000 And then for your not for critical race theory.

00:06:15.000 It's an option.

00:06:16.000 We have choice.

00:06:17.000 Oh, so you could choose to segregate. 0.85

00:06:22.000 What do you think of white only dormitories? 0.94

00:06:22.000 That's a pigeonhole. 0.94

00:06:26.000 What? 0.99

00:06:27.000 Would you support white only dormitories? 0.92

00:06:30.000 Everybody has a choice. 0.99

00:06:31.000 So I think white only and black only anything is evil and wrong.

00:06:36.000 That's why I hate critical theory and critical race theory, because when it's put in practice, you start to discriminate people based on race.

00:06:47.000 So we're now south of the Mason Dixon line in North Carolina.

00:06:50.000 We did a lot of work to get rid of segregation in this country.

00:06:53.000 Why are you trying to bring it back?

00:06:54.000 What work?

00:06:56.000 The Civil Rights Act of 1964.

00:06:59.000 In this state?

00:07:01.000 Yeah, actually, in this state. 0.64

00:07:04.000 Are there black only bathrooms out there I'm unaware of or white only bathrooms? 0.99

00:07:08.000 Nah. 1.00

00:07:10.000 Right.

00:07:11.000 A lot of work was done in this state.

00:07:17.000 Your face is small.

00:07:21.000 Well, thanks for being here.

00:07:22.000 They always go to insults when they lose the argument.

00:07:24.000 God bless you, my friend.

00:07:27.000 All right, next one.

00:07:29.000 I don't have an edgy race question.

00:07:32.000 Oh, okay.

00:07:33.000 But my question is when 63% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck, not even able to afford a home, car, or even basic necessities, when wages have only increased 15% since 1965, while the cost of a home has increased 118%, How does free market neoliberal capitalism address these issues when free market capitalism breeds these very issues?

00:07:54.000 So I'd probably agree with part of that.

00:07:55.000 I would reject the neoliberal because I'm not a neoliberal.

00:07:58.000 I believe the economy is neoliberal.

00:07:59.000 You're not neoliberal.

00:08:00.000 Well, no, actually, the economy is partially neoliberal.

00:08:04.000 So you agree?

00:08:04.000 How is it not neoliberal?

00:08:07.000 Part of our trade policies have recently.

00:08:10.000 We are globalized.

00:08:11.000 We embrace globalization.

00:08:12.000 That is neoliberal.

00:08:13.000 You're getting way ahead of yourself, dude.

00:08:15.000 You're at a 10.

00:08:16.000 You've got to slow down to a 6.

00:08:17.000 Okay, I'm here to talk.

00:08:18.000 I'm listening.

00:08:20.000 Okay, good.

00:08:22.000 All right, so how would free market capitalism fix part of this?

00:08:26.000 Well, the answer is that there are externalities of free market capitalism.

00:08:29.000 Market should serve people, people should not serve markets.

00:08:32.000 I would say generally some of the facts that you cited are totally correct.

00:08:34.000 I talked about the destruction of the American middle class.

00:08:37.000 Some of that can be attributed to bad government policy.

00:08:40.000 Hopefully, you and I can agree that the government being able to create money out of thin air crushes the American middle class and creates a tax called inflation, where every single working person in this room is one month poor despite working harder this year.

00:08:52.000 That is because of government, not because of free market capitalism, that inflation is running out of control.

00:08:57.000 We spent $5 trillion we don't have on pet projects that were silly and awful and terrible.

00:09:02.000 To your point, though, and I actually can agree, and I am not a neoliberal, is I actually think that our economic policy needs to be done prudently, not ideologically, in the sense that we should make more stuff here.

00:09:12.000 We should protect the muscular class.

00:09:13.000 We need to have our own industrial base. 0.66

00:09:15.000 Immigration should serve the American citizen, both legal and we should have no illegal immigration. 0.75

00:09:20.000 We should have a moratorium on legal immigration until wages go up and American workers and students are put first and given a preference. 0.67

00:09:27.000 But I would say this, though there are some market forces that could be generally really good. 0.99

00:09:32.000 Okay, and just throwing away all markets in kind of one sentence and just kind of dismissing it, I think would be a catastrophic mistake.

00:09:39.000 I'll give you some examples.

00:09:40.000 I'm not anti market.

00:09:41.000 Okay, good.

00:09:42.000 I'm glad you clarified that.

00:09:43.000 But I'd say that generally, the ability to be able to trade across state lines for small businesses to start new products, for family owned businesses to pass down one family to the other without these crazy taxes and estate taxes, these are things I would support.

00:09:55.000 Does that answer your question a little bit?

00:09:56.000 Yeah, but that's not free market capitalism then.

00:09:59.000 Okay, well, it depends how you define it, right?

00:10:01.000 So do you mean laissez faire, no government interference?

00:10:03.000 Well, it doesn't have to be laissez faire.

00:10:04.000 It's just that's not free market if you're only restricting jobs to America.

00:10:07.000 It's not free market.

00:10:08.000 Okay, well, actually, it is because Adam Smith, the author of Wealth of Nations, was a protectionist.

00:10:12.000 Abraham Lincoln was a protectionist.

00:10:14.000 So the original free market thinkers of the 1700s and 1800s, including Alexander Hamilton, they were free markets, but they were also nationalists.

00:10:22.000 They wanted their country to be able to thrive and succeed because markets should serve people in the country.

00:10:27.000 People in the country should not serve markets.

00:10:29.000 That's my position economically.

00:10:30.000 Markets are a general good for society.

00:10:32.000 We should only intervene prudently when we see externalities that start to harm people or wages go down.

00:10:37.000 Or there are results that we don't like in that regard.

00:10:40.000 Thank you for your question, and thanks for being here tonight.

00:10:47.000 Hey, Charlie, first of all, I want to just say thank you for being here tonight, thank you for speaking, and thank you for giving other people a chance to speak.

00:10:52.000 The question I wanted to ask was actually on something you said earlier how you said the question of hierarchy is not necessarily that to get rid of elites, but to just have better elites.

00:11:01.000 The argument I would counter, and I just want to know your thoughts, is the way I see hierarchy is you can have terrible people at the top, theoretically, people that are working in their own best interest, people that are corrupt.

00:11:12.000 And yes, that will affect the people at the bottom, but the way I've always seen hierarchy, especially in America and some of the stuff I see today, kind of goes back to what he said with lower wages.

00:11:21.000 I'm sorry, I'm rambling.

00:11:24.000 What is your opinion on the idea that hierarchy should be designed more so around just making sure the people at the bottom benefit, regardless of whether or not the elites are necessarily corrupt?

00:11:33.000 Well, yeah, that's a nice goal, but that didn't really work well in the 20th century.

00:11:39.000 Well, I was going to comment on that, and that.

00:11:43.000 Some of the most prosperous points of America, a lot of people like to think back to it.

00:11:46.000 Things like the 60s and 70s.

00:11:47.000 For sure.

00:11:48.000 You had a very corrupt American elite.

00:11:50.000 You had an American elite that was starting foreign wars.

00:11:53.000 That was after World War II, where the defense industry was.

00:11:55.000 I would disagree.

00:11:56.000 I think Eisenhower was a pretty ethical president compared to the gang of criminals we deal with now.

00:12:01.000 I'm not saying an individual president can't be a non ethical person.

00:12:06.000 Yeah, but would you agree the 50s economic policy was more focused on the middle class than the lower class, right?

00:12:11.000 Because it was about an industrial base, it was about making stuff here abroad, it was about having trade policies that allowed us to be able to flourish and succeed.

00:12:19.000 So the question is you're always going to have hierarchies.

00:12:21.000 Yeah, it's unavoidable.

00:12:23.000 Yeah, okay, good.

00:12:24.000 Because a pure Marxist would say we eventually can get rid of them.

00:12:27.000 I think that's woefully utopian.

00:12:28.000 But the question is then, when you design a system, who should it serve? 0.70

00:12:31.000 Aristotle would argue the middle class is everything. 0.99

00:12:33.000 I totally agree, right?

00:12:35.000 It's the people that don't commit crimes, they pay their taxes, right?

00:12:39.000 They're not going to get fabulously wealthy in their lifetime, but they should be able to have a commitment to retirement, see their life improve, their kids should be able to get well educated and live a nice and normal life, and the society should be stabilized around that, right?

00:12:51.000 When that middle class disappears and you get a permanent government addicted class, too much on the bottom, or you get too much of an oligarchy on top, then I think the entire system starts to shatter.

00:13:00.000 So I think we're saying the same things in some ways.

00:13:02.000 But my argument is that you're always going to have hierarchies, and I would love to be able to see leaders in the top of the hierarchy, the billionaire class, if you will, pander less to the needs, wants, and interests of some esoteric climate change propaganda from the World Economic Forum and instead say, hey, I have a lot of money.

00:13:18.000 How am I going to use that money to benefit people's freedom and liberty and middle class potential?

00:13:23.000 Not trying to turn off our energy supremacy or superiority, which is the dumbest thing and actually hurts middle income Americans and make your energy bills even more expensive, if that makes sense.

00:13:31.000 So I guess you would probably agree then that.

00:13:33.000 Kind of the difference between the 50s and now is that the middle class has kind of been ground down on the top of the dollar.

00:13:38.000 Yeah, intentionally, I think.

00:13:40.000 Okay.

00:13:40.000 Yeah.

00:13:40.000 And I think it's a variety of things.

00:13:41.000 I think public policy, I think Wall Street's taken over our government, but also I will say this I don't agree with libertarians on a lot of stuff, but they are totally right on monetary policy.

00:13:50.000 Our monetary policy has been a robbery campaign of the American middle class, of destroying the American dollar, of depleting our purchasing power since the 1950s.

00:13:59.000 So, for example, in the 1950s, your dollar just went further than it does now.

00:14:02.000 It did.

00:14:03.000 And that destroys middle income earners and is a rigged game against working people.

00:14:03.000 It did.

00:14:07.000 Gotta get to the next question.

00:14:08.000 Thank you.

00:14:09.000 Thank you.

00:14:09.000 Appreciate it.

00:14:15.000 Hello.

00:14:15.000 I had a statement to say you were banned on Twitter or whatever because you dead named somebody.

00:14:21.000 And then you also made up the, or not made up, sorry, you put out the point that people were being banned for saying the truth about the corona vaccine.

00:14:31.000 I just wanted to say that two wrongs do not make a right.

00:14:34.000 It's not right that you were.

00:14:35.000 Deplatformed.

00:14:36.000 I don't think anybody should be deplatformed for saying anything.

00:14:40.000 I fully believe in freedom of speech, but I mean, I wasn't so happy with it.

00:14:45.000 You seem kind of proud about it, not proud, but it just wasn't, seemed wrong to you that you were dead naming somebody.

00:14:53.000 I get it.

00:14:53.000 You know, if it was a mistake, that's fine.

00:14:56.000 No, it wasn't.

00:14:57.000 It wasn't?

00:14:58.000 Okay, well, okay, then you're proud of it.

00:15:00.000 That does not make it right.

00:15:01.000 I think as generations go on, we.

00:15:06.000 Become more accepting to things, and I think that even if you don't like somebody, it's not a good idea to normalize dead naming.

00:15:15.000 So, can you explain our audience what is dead naming?

00:15:17.000 You probably know it better than I do.

00:15:18.000 Is when somebody transitions and they choose a new name conforming to their gender.

00:15:26.000 So, if their name was Lisa before and they changed it to Jack, if you call them Lisa before that or Lisa after they transitioned, that is dead naming.

00:15:35.000 What's wrong with that?

00:15:36.000 I think it's very wrong because I have a lot of trans friends.

00:15:41.000 And if they were dead named, it would be, I mean, shattering to them because it's something that is so personal to them.

00:15:49.000 Shattering?

00:15:49.000 What?

00:15:51.000 Yes.

00:15:52.000 Yes.

00:15:53.000 It's, I mean, it's who they are now.

00:15:56.000 People don't transition just for the hell of it, you know?

00:16:00.000 It's a very personal thing to them.

00:16:02.000 They don't do it to appeal to the other gender or whatnot.

00:16:06.000 Yeah, so, but let's think about it.

00:16:07.000 Isn't it part of their biography?

00:16:08.000 Can you really erase history and act as if that wasn't your name for a while?

00:16:12.000 For example, it was another name than Rachel Levine.

00:16:17.000 Well, why do names matter so much?

00:16:18.000 I mean, it's what you want to be called, it's just a title for you.

00:16:22.000 But it's part of your biography, right?

00:16:23.000 It's a fact that a man who now thinks he's a woman had a family, got married.

00:16:27.000 And then magically decided to no longer be a man.

00:16:30.000 I was talking facts, so your problem would be with telling of a biography?

00:16:35.000 Well, I mean, it's not that, it's not as deep as you think it is.

00:16:39.000 It's just somebody, it's them now.

00:16:42.000 And it's just being respectful.

00:16:44.000 Oh, okay, but it's being respectful by not being able to act as if they were something that they weren't.

00:16:49.000 Isn't their whole identity and being no longer what they were?

00:16:51.000 So it shouldn't shatter them.

00:16:52.000 It should be empower them.

00:16:54.000 So then why do they call themselves trans if it's not their whole identity?

00:16:54.000 No.

00:16:57.000 Well, they don't, people don't go out saying, Guess what?

00:17:03.000 I'm trans.

00:17:04.000 Yeah, they do. 0.99

00:17:04.000 They just kind of exist. 0.99

00:17:07.000 That's Twitter.

00:17:08.000 That's Twitter.

00:17:08.000 I can guarantee you.

00:17:09.000 And TikTok and most campuses and the trans groups and the trans flag and the trans parade and the trans music and the trans stuff.

00:17:17.000 People say they're trans all the time.

00:17:18.000 If the change is not part of their identity, then why do they call themselves trans?

00:17:23.000 Well, I mean, it's just a title.

00:17:27.000 Our society is more, you know, we want titles for just about everything.

00:17:31.000 I agree.

00:17:32.000 So I don't accept the title, and I should have a right not to accept it.

00:17:35.000 Well, everybody has a right to be respected.

00:17:38.000 They haven't done any wrong to you.

00:17:40.000 No, you don't have a right to be respected.

00:17:41.000 You have a right to speak, you have to earn respect in a decent society.

00:17:52.000 Okay, I'm sorry.

00:17:54.000 I want to fully understand what you mean, like. 1.00

00:17:56.000 Yeah, so for example, I don't respect the Unabomber. 1.00

00:18:00.000 That's an extreme example. 1.00

00:18:00.000 Okay. 1.00

00:18:01.000 Okay. 0.98

00:18:02.000 I don't respect people that perform abortions. 0.73

00:18:04.000 Okay. 0.98

00:18:05.000 I don't respect people that medically mutilate children.

00:18:07.000 And I don't respect someone that is taking Lupron and says they're a man all of a sudden and demands I comply.

00:18:07.000 Okay.

00:18:16.000 That's not the way the world works.

00:18:20.000 Respect must be earned.

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00:19:39.000 I think respect is just a base thing.

00:19:43.000 It's not like I'm going to go into this room and say, I disrespect every single one of you because you don't believe what I believe or you're not presenting how I want.

00:19:52.000 You know?

00:19:52.000 I mean.

00:19:53.000 Well, okay, so what about my respect?

00:19:55.000 Why was I kicked off Twitter?

00:19:56.000 You said it's wrong, but you can all of a sudden see where your viewpoint quickly becomes, and we have to shut somebody up because you deserve respect.

00:20:02.000 I mean, it's, I mean, honest to God, I'm not trying to like, I'm kind of losing my thoughts a little bit, but I just want to put out there that I think it's just basic human respect.

00:20:12.000 You know, it's not that deep.

00:20:14.000 People just, if they feel one way and they truly believe it, it's not just, oh, I feel like being a boy now.

00:20:23.000 It's not just an on the whim decision, it's something that's held inside them.

00:20:26.000 Right, well, hold on a second, but I just want to, I think you're being sincere in this regard, but.

00:20:32.000 Why, so let's just take gender affirming care or whatever you might call it, right?

00:20:36.000 Yes. 0.72

00:20:36.000 So, affirming someone's mental delusion where they think they're a man or a woman, why is that the appropriate line of treatment? 0.72

00:20:45.000 For example, do we give liposuction to people that are anorexic?

00:20:51.000 Well, no, I mean, I think.

00:20:53.000 No, because we know better, we know it's going to harm them, and we love that person.

00:20:56.000 No, I don't.

00:20:56.000 So, that's not medicine, that would be torture.

00:20:59.000 Yeah, and not everybody who decides to transition.

00:21:03.000 Decides to change their genitalia or go through something completely irreversible, right?

00:21:08.000 Some do, though.

00:21:08.000 That's true.

00:21:09.000 Tens of thousands.

00:21:10.000 I have conflicted opinions on gender affirming surgery because it's irreversible, and if it's a decision made too young of an age, then it's not right to do it on children. 0.98

00:21:23.000 That's fair.

00:21:24.000 I appreciate the honesty.

00:21:25.000 I really mean that, and you should be encouraged.

00:21:28.000 I wish more people were sane enough to say that.

00:21:30.000 But let me kind of complete the point.

00:21:31.000 A biography should not be eliminated because someone demands respect.

00:21:35.000 For example, I can say that Muhammad Ali used to be called Cassius Clay.

00:21:38.000 It's part of his life.

00:21:39.000 And then he found Islam and he decided to be called something else.

00:21:43.000 And all of a sudden, you get this rancor and this uproar that somehow I'm being hateful and no longer worthy of a Twitter platform because I said a fact that Levine had a name and a family and was a man and then claims he's a woman.

00:21:56.000 If all of a sudden history and facts can be erased, we are dangerously approaching a 1984 dystopian world control scenario that I don't think any of us should entertain.

00:22:07.000 Final thoughts?

00:22:08.000 Okay.

00:22:09.000 To wrap it up, my point was basically just I think it's better to normalize, or not normalize, but like not.

00:22:16.000 Put out that it's okay to do these types of things.

00:22:19.000 I think it's just general human respect.

00:22:21.000 I think we just all need to become more accepting and we don't really need to, you know.

00:22:27.000 Got it.

00:22:28.000 And so my opinion is 180.

00:22:29.000 We have clarity, not agreement.

00:22:30.000 I'm not going to accept mental delusions with force.

00:22:34.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:22:35.000 All right.

00:22:41.000 Hey, what's up?

00:22:43.000 So my question is given that 97% of scientists agree that man made climate change exists and that it will cause negative impacts in our lifetime.

00:22:51.000 From more severe storms to droughts.

00:22:53.000 How do you, as a conservative, deal with that fact and what do you want to do to address it? 0.99

00:22:57.000 I'm really curious about the 3%, aren't you? 0.99

00:22:57.000 Sure. 0.99

00:23:01.000 Yeah, I guess like, I don't know, like 3% of people think that they can fly, but they can't.

00:23:07.000 But it's 3% of scientists.

00:23:08.000 Why do they think it's not anthropogenic?

00:23:12.000 I don't think about the 3%. 0.99

00:23:13.000 I think about the 97%.

00:23:14.000 Is science a democracy?

00:23:15.000 That's not how we think about 97% of people who are struggling day to day.

00:23:19.000 We don't think about the 1% as anthropogenic. 0.98

00:23:20.000 Well, hold on.

00:23:21.000 That's not the way science works.

00:23:22.000 Do we take an up or down vote on Newtonian physics?

00:23:25.000 Who thinks force equals mass times acceleration?

00:23:27.000 It's irrelevant because we can prove it.

00:23:29.000 Yeah, but there's still like 2% of scientists are probably nuts who don't agree with that, right?

00:23:33.000 No.

00:23:34.000 No?

00:23:34.000 I mean, if we polled them, we can always find a nut.

00:23:37.000 Why do we have to.

00:23:38.000 You think 2% of American physicists would say that force does not equal mass times acceleration or would reject Newtonian physics or the second law of thermodynamics?

00:23:47.000 2% or 3% of people think that they can fly, you know?

00:23:49.000 Yeah, but they're not scientists.

00:23:54.000 And I don't think 2% or 3% of people think they can fly.

00:23:56.000 I don't think that's exactly right.

00:23:58.000 The point is this.

00:23:59.000 Science is not a democracy, is it?

00:24:01.000 No, absolutely not.

00:24:02.000 So, where do you think that 97% comes from?

00:24:05.000 Well, first of all, the study is flawed in and of itself.

00:24:07.000 It's government funded, it's way over quoted.

00:24:10.000 Let's pretend it's right, though, okay?

00:24:11.000 You go through this, people are incentivized to come to certain conclusions. 0.98

00:24:14.000 But I'm fascinated by the 3%.

00:24:16.000 The 3%, the 2%, the 1%, the dissenter in science is always given a platform. 0.84

00:24:21.000 That's what the scientific method is all about. 0.54

00:24:23.000 In fact, prior to Galileo, we thought that the Earth was the center of the universe.

00:24:28.000 And then Galileo was like, no, actually, it's the heliocentric theory.

00:24:31.000 You know what happened to Galileo?

00:24:32.000 Tried and put in prison and out to pasture because he dared disagree with the status quo and the scholastic belief.

00:24:39.000 History is not very kind to the overwhelming, tyrannical nature of scientists that say 97% of us agree that lobotomies work until we realize they don't.

00:24:49.000 Now, you might be right, it might be man made, it might be anthropogenic, but that 3% has a lot of credence.

00:24:54.000 You should look at them, read their journals.

00:24:57.000 They argue that there's thousands of other explanations for rising global temperatures other than just carbon emitted from human beings, sunspots, global tilt.

00:25:06.000 Natural cooling and heating patterns.

00:25:07.000 And just to say it's all human beings all the time also begs the question to what extent, what do you do about it, and what are you willing to then sacrifice?

00:25:14.000 So, real quick, you can actually check charts online that show you the graphs of how sunspots tend to affect temperatures in the United States sunspots, volcanic eruptions, all this stuff.

00:25:24.000 And all of it doesn't account for the amount of difference that we've seen recently.

00:25:29.000 So, what do you say to that?

00:25:31.000 Depends on what scientists you talk to.

00:25:32.000 That's what it's all about.

00:25:33.000 It's not the scientist, it's just the science itself.

00:25:36.000 Like if you check graphs, On any website.

00:25:38.000 So, show me a single scientist that can tell me, without a shadow of a doubt, empirically proven, that man made carbon emissions is solely to blame.

00:25:45.000 And to what blame?

00:25:46.000 And what is the equation?

00:25:47.000 And then what can we possibly do about it?

00:25:49.000 So, this is a question, right?

00:25:50.000 No, again, I'm not saying anyone is solely to blame.

00:25:52.000 I'm just saying that humans are a big factor.

00:25:54.000 And that's what most people.

00:25:55.000 Define big.

00:25:56.000 What's the number big?

00:25:57.000 I couldn't give you that exact number.

00:25:58.000 Well, then maybe we shouldn't shut down the entire economy and change our energy sector over a number we can't define.

00:26:04.000 Or maybe I'm just a college student.

00:26:07.000 I mean, we're talking about Europe.

00:26:07.000 Right?

00:26:09.000 I'm not saying maybe I'm just a college student who doesn't have that number.

00:26:11.000 No, that's fine.

00:26:12.000 But now we're talking about shutting down Europe and having an entire green energy obsession making.

00:26:18.000 I'm not saying that.

00:26:19.000 No, no, no.

00:26:20.000 But you are saying is when you start engaging in green energy fantasy or climate change fanaticism, let me call it that, you're going to have serious ramifications.

00:26:29.000 The United Kingdom could be a net energy exporter instead.

00:26:32.000 This winter, they're going to have rolling blackouts.

00:26:35.000 They're going to have people potentially dying from blizzards and from incredible cold.

00:26:40.000 Why?

00:26:40.000 Because they've had this entire green energy propaganda campaign.

00:26:43.000 That is making themselves intentionally poor because of a community of scientists that are saying we must shut ourselves down because of anthropogenic, human made, man made cause climate change.

00:26:52.000 Ask the question wait a second, what if the premise itself is faulty?

00:26:56.000 And by the way, 97% of scientists were also saying, yeah, the COVID vaccine is the best thing ever.

00:27:02.000 Ivermectin is awful and terrible.

00:27:03.000 So, excuse me while I'm just the dissenting contrarian voice, which says the scientific community, whether it be in climate alarmism or in COVID vaccines or in epidemiology, I won't trust Anthony Fauci in epidemiology, nor will I trust his equivalent in climate change alarmism.

00:27:21.000 In fact, I've grown accustomed to believe there's probably an agenda behind a lot of this stuff.

00:27:26.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:27:30.000 You should never trust just one scientist.

00:27:32.000 And that's why I'm saying we should probably trust the 97% who say that.

00:27:36.000 I'm really glad science is not a democracy.

00:27:39.000 Otherwise, we would be in a very dark place.

00:27:42.000 Always listen to the dissenting voice.

00:27:44.000 That 3% is well researched. 0.88

00:27:46.000 It's in the minority.

00:27:47.000 It's been suppressed.

00:27:49.000 And that 97% figure has been used now to really restrict Western energy dominance.

00:27:54.000 It's making us poorer and making the elite stronger because of it.

00:27:57.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:27:58.000 Thanks.

00:27:58.000 Appreciate it.

00:28:03.000 Okay.

00:28:04.000 I just wanted to real quick ask you can you clarify your definition of critical race theory?

00:28:10.000 Yeah, Derek Bell's.

00:28:11.000 So, what he wrote in 1991, Intro to Critical Race Theory.

00:28:14.000 What's in that book?

00:28:15.000 The whole book is your definition.

00:28:17.000 How about this?

00:28:18.000 The one I used. 0.93

00:28:19.000 Call everything racist till you control it.

00:28:21.000 Oh, so wait, but then that literally means that critical race theory can mean basically anything you want it to, right?

00:28:30.000 Only if you're calling it racist till you control it.

00:28:32.000 I mean, I'm defining critical race theory in the modern American context as that.

00:28:35.000 We can go back to Herbert Marcuse, One Dimensional Man, or Jacques Derrida, or Michel Foucault, but the most agreed upon legal, I'm sorry, the most agreed upon academic theory is Intro to Critical Race Theory, 1991 by Derek Bell.

00:28:47.000 Yeah.

00:28:48.000 Wait, but are you familiar with that literature?

00:28:51.000 Well, yeah, I read the book, but I don't remember anything about it.

00:28:53.000 It was for like a college class.

00:28:54.000 Like, let's be honest, nobody remembers the books they read in college.

00:28:58.000 Sounds like a great value proposition to go to college.

00:29:00.000 No, no, no, it is.

00:29:01.000 Trust me.

00:29:05.000 But, like, well, but you didn't go to college, so I guess you wouldn't know.

00:29:10.000 It's true, I didn't.

00:29:13.000 So, let me ask you, though, does that mean that I'm not able to have this conversation with you?

00:29:16.000 Because I actually remember the book, and you didn't, and you paid for it.

00:29:31.000 So, first of all, I didn't pay for it.

00:29:33.000 There's these things called scholarships.

00:29:35.000 Oh, so somebody else paid for you not to remember the book that you were supposed to read.

00:29:40.000 Oh, some wealthy donor or taxpayer paid for you to not remember the book.

00:29:45.000 I have a question.

00:29:47.000 Who are your wealthy donors?

00:29:49.000 Many of them are in this room.

00:29:50.000 Thank you guys for your wonderful support, by the way.

00:29:52.000 Interesting.

00:29:55.000 We have over 130,000 grassroots donors at Turning Point USA.

00:29:59.000 130,000.

00:30:00.000 I think we have some people in the back.

00:30:01.000 That chip in $5, $10, $15.

00:30:04.000 God bless you, We are a grassroots funded operation.

00:30:09.000 But let me give you another example.

00:30:11.000 I'll give you five things that critical race theory believes.

00:30:13.000 Number one, the notion that racism is ordinary and everywhere.

00:30:17.000 Number two, the idea of interest convergence, otherwise known as intersectionality.

00:30:22.000 Number three, the social construction of race, meaning that there is a social construction around race in our society.

00:30:27.000 The four, idea of storytelling and counter storytelling.

00:30:30.000 Number five, is that no matter how hard you work, no matter how hard you do, you cannot remove racism.

00:30:35.000 From your society.

00:30:36.000 Those are five pillars of critical race theory based on Derek Bell's intro to critical race theory.

00:30:41.000 Does that ring a bell?

00:30:44.000 Yes, but like, okay, so let me stick with this.

00:30:49.000 What do you think.

00:30:52.000 Oh, we'll edit that out.

00:30:56.000 Wait, am I not allowed to?

00:30:56.000 Oh, my bad.

00:30:58.000 It's not encouraged.

00:30:59.000 Oh, okay, sorry.

00:31:03.000 What was the third point?

00:31:05.000 My mind is dying.

00:31:06.000 The social construction of race?

00:31:07.000 The social construction of race.

00:31:09.000 Do you not think that race is at least partially socially constructed?

00:31:13.000 Depends how you define it.

00:31:14.000 So, like, what defines where one race ends and where one race begins?

00:31:20.000 Depends who you're asking.

00:31:21.000 I think race is completely and totally irrelevant.

00:31:23.000 Do you think race is relevant?

00:31:25.000 No.

00:31:26.000 Okay, then why are we talking about race all the time, and why are we talking about critical race theory?

00:31:29.000 Well, you brought it up at first when you were doing your speech.

00:31:32.000 Remember, I said it was a lie from the pit of hell that we should repudiate and stop talking about all the time?

00:31:40.000 You're on scholarship?

00:31:42.000 Sorry, what?

00:31:43.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:31:43.000 Nothing.

00:31:49.000 So, to answer your question, I don't think that race means anything, and I guess you don't either, right? 0.99

00:31:58.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:31:59.000 Right.

00:31:59.000 So, then why do you keep bringing up race whenever you're speaking on a stage?

00:32:07.000 I am not speaking on a stage bringing up critical race theory.

00:32:10.000 No, no, no.

00:32:10.000 You are on scholarship.

00:32:11.000 I'm bringing up how critical race theory destroys society and how we shouldn't talk about race all the time.

00:32:16.000 Okay, but you're bringing up race.

00:32:19.000 You know, critical race theory, not race.

00:32:22.000 Okay, so what's the second word in that?

00:32:25.000 Yeah, it's race, but it's a theory of how to view race, of which is a mind virus pathogen destroying America, of which I said again, just to reemphasize for those in the back, we could replay the tape, we'd throw the red flag to watch it over again.

00:32:38.000 I said that what?

00:32:39.000 Race means nothing.

00:32:41.000 I care about your actions, your character, and most importantly, your soul.

00:32:45.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:32:46.000 Thank you.

00:32:52.000 So, I'm not really asking much of a question, but I'm looking for advice.

00:32:56.000 I want to run for Congress in a few years when I become of age.

00:33:01.000 And I'm just wondering if you have any pointers or direction you can help guide me.

00:33:05.000 You should run. 1.00

00:33:06.000 We need more young people to run.

00:33:08.000 We have Turning Point Action, which is not represented here tonight, which is our political arm that would love to help you, train you, and pour into you.

00:33:14.000 It's an amazing organization that's doing such awesome things.

00:33:18.000 Knock on more doors than your opponent.

00:33:20.000 Have a message that resonates to voters.

00:33:22.000 Respect your elders and talk to people that have been in politics for a while and listen to them.

00:33:26.000 I don't like when young people run for office and they don't listen to people that have been around for a while.

00:33:31.000 They've really cut their teeth.

00:33:32.000 They've been through a lot.

00:33:33.000 It's something that I had to learn the hard way early on and really be like, okay, what did you learn through this?

00:33:37.000 What happened in this cycle and all that?

00:33:39.000 They have a lot of wisdom to pass down.

00:33:40.000 And I think you're going to be very welcomed and well received as a younger candidate.

00:33:44.000 I mean that.

00:33:45.000 God bless you.

00:33:45.000 Thank you.

00:33:46.000 Thank you.

00:33:50.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:33:51.000 My name is Dylan.

00:33:52.000 I'm actually the president of the chapter at the University of South Carolina.

00:33:57.000 Thank you.

00:34:02.000 So, I was actually at CLS this summer, you know, where you said chapters change the world, and I wholeheartedly agree with that.

00:34:09.000 I was just asking you so, we had our fall semester come by, it's now, it's October now, and we had a big crop of freshmen come in in the beginning, but little by little, you know, some peter out and some stop showing up.

00:34:20.000 So, how do you, how would you sustain, what would be your advice on sustaining membership?

00:34:26.000 Yeah, just have events, be publicly out there, always trying to invite dialogue and discussion.

00:34:32.000 And look, our Turning Point USA chapter deserves a lot of credit for what they've done here tonight.

00:34:36.000 You guys do such a great job.

00:34:37.000 I was just there a year and a half ago, two years ago, three years ago.

00:34:39.000 I can't remember.

00:34:40.000 Everything is a blur post 2020 at all.

00:34:42.000 It just kind of comes as a blur.

00:34:43.000 But you got to stay engaged.

00:34:44.000 You got to make it interesting.

00:34:45.000 And then, you know, try to invite as many speakers as you can to campus.

00:34:48.000 And then everyone loves a good debate.

00:34:50.000 When you're looking for something to do, try to have a debate.

00:34:52.000 Dialogue, disagreement is always the best thing you could do.

00:34:55.000 And we'd love to have you back.

00:34:57.000 I'll put it on the list.

00:34:58.000 I went to Clemson last year, so I got to atone for that, right?

00:35:00.000 Yes.

00:35:01.000 I know.

00:35:01.000 You're shocked.

00:35:02.000 I won't do that again anytime soon.

00:35:04.000 Great to be here.

00:35:04.000 I love Clemson.

00:35:04.000 We're going to beat them this year.

00:35:06.000 Mark my words.

00:35:06.000 We are.

00:35:12.000 Right.

00:35:14.000 Thanks, man.

00:35:15.000 Have a good one.

00:35:15.000 Appreciate it.

00:35:18.000 Hello.

00:35:20.000 I just want you to answer this one question. 0.56

00:35:25.000 Do you understand that as a white man, you do not have to apologize for being white?

00:35:31.000 You just have to acknowledge the racism that happens around you.

00:35:35.000 That is all.

00:35:37.000 What racism happens around me? 1.00

00:35:40.000 Let's say that a racist police officer shoots me and kills me. 0.92

00:35:49.000 For you to be a white man and you see that and don't say anything about it, I believe that my community would be upset about that. 0.99

00:36:00.000 Now, all you have to do as a white man, you don't have to get on the internet or on Twitter and say, I'm sorry for being white, but you should.

00:36:09.000 You should at least acknowledge the racism that happens around you.

00:36:15.000 Okay, well, yeah, if an individual act of racism happens.

00:36:17.000 That is just taking accountability for what happens around you.

00:36:21.000 Hold on a second.

00:36:22.000 First of all, I don't have to be accountable for a whole race, do I? 0.98

00:36:25.000 Why do I have to be accountable for the white race? 0.96

00:36:28.000 For yourself. 0.80

00:36:30.000 Right, so if I'm racist, I'll take responsibility for that.

00:36:32.000 You probably are not racist.

00:36:34.000 Thank you.

00:36:34.000 So then why do I have to comment on somebody else's racism?

00:36:39.000 But what you should do.

00:36:41.000 Is take accountability for the racism around you, not pretend that it doesn't happen around you, like again, the example that I gave you.

00:36:50.000 That if I was shot by a police officer and you found out that person was racist, right now, but why would you take responsibility?

00:36:59.000 How can I take responsibility for somebody else's actions?

00:37:01.000 What you should do is just take accountability and say, Hey, yes, that was racist, instead of saying, No, that person, that officer wasn't racist.

00:37:08.000 Well, hold on, what you got to show me an instance and an example, but we're talking about such a micro problem that doesn't exist. 0.92

00:37:14.000 Do you know that a black person is 18 and a half times more likely to shoot and kill a police officer than a police officer is to go and shoot an unarmed black man? 0.94

00:37:23.000 But is that the question that I asked you? 0.98

00:37:25.000 No, no, you asked a hypothetical about if I'm going to take accountability for a racist police officer. 0.79

00:37:29.000 So, again, but I mean, do you understand if I inverted it on you, would you take accountability for all the blacks killing police in America? 0.76

00:37:37.000 No, would you? 1.00

00:37:37.000 That was funny. 1.00

00:37:38.000 No, why don't you take accountability for all the blacks killing police in New York? 1.00

00:37:42.000 I wouldn't take accountability for it, but what I would say is yes, there are a lot of black people in my community who do dumb things to other black people and to other white people. 0.99

00:37:53.000 What I would not do is just pretend that it doesn't happen so that, like I said, You, as a white man, have to do the same thing. 0.98

00:38:02.000 I acknowledge it happens.

00:38:03.000 I also acknowledge it's rarer than lightning striking you when you're outside.

00:38:08.000 That's it.

00:38:08.000 But let me ask you who is Tony Timpa?

00:38:11.000 That's all I wanted you to do.

00:38:13.000 I acknowledge it's rare, and I'm not going to have to take responsibility for an entire race at all.

00:38:13.000 Thank you.

00:38:18.000 It's wrong and it's terrible.

00:38:19.000 I wish we could have continued the conversation.

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00:40:01.000 Hello, how are you?

00:40:02.000 Oh, there you go.

00:40:05.000 Okay, sorry.

00:40:05.000 There you go.

00:40:07.000 I would like to say thank you for coming to UNC Charlotte.

00:40:10.000 I do have a question about you about cannabis.

00:40:13.000 You probably don't get many questions about cannabis.

00:40:17.000 So I would like to ask you about your stance on cannabis and then follow up with a following question.

00:40:24.000 Probably in the past overly policed, but should not be legalized.

00:40:27.000 Should not be legalized.

00:40:29.000 And what are the reasons why you believe it should stay illegal?

00:40:36.000 We have an overwhelming amount of data.

00:40:38.000 To show when it's legalized, states get more dangerous, it gets messier, more homelessness, more vagrancy, more overdoses, more kids going on drugs, more heroin overdoses.

00:40:46.000 It is a gateway drug, regardless what people say.

00:40:49.000 It's laced with chemicals, with fentanyl, with hallucinogenics.

00:40:52.000 Colorado went from the 10th in carjackings to the 1st in carjackings, 4th in arson to the 1st in arson, 3rd in rape to the 2nd in rape.

00:41:00.000 I mean, I could go through every statistic.

00:41:01.000 Every state that has legalized weed has seen more crime, more vagrancy, more dropouts, more kids on the social outcast of society.

00:41:08.000 Would you say that when you legalize marijuana, you can see the lab tests, you can see all the toxic chemicals inside of the cannabis plant, you can see how much THC is in there, how much CBD, what terpenes, if it has limiting, pinene, mercene, there's a lot of cannabinoids inside of it.

00:41:30.000 Sounds terrible.

00:41:31.000 No, no, no.

00:41:32.000 It's actually good.

00:41:33.000 It's actually quite unique because there are different strains with different types of benefits.

00:41:39.000 Some people take it recreationally.

00:41:41.000 Some people take it for medical purposes.

00:41:45.000 So, why not we legalize it so it's safer for our community so people know what they're consuming?

00:41:52.000 And also, we take marijuana off of the schedule.

00:41:58.000 Well, the drug, yes.

00:42:03.000 To make it federally legal.

00:42:04.000 Let me ask you this.

00:42:04.000 So, you can make it legal.

00:42:05.000 So, you say, why not?

00:42:06.000 Can you give me an example of any state that has legalized weed and it's gotten safer?

00:42:10.000 And it's gotten safer?

00:42:12.000 Yes.

00:42:13.000 So, my knowledge is basically based on not necessarily my question is not basically about whether about that statistics, but but you said safer.

00:42:25.000 I mean, that would be probably critical.

00:42:26.000 Well, it's safer in terms of consumption, in terms of what you're consuming if it has toxic chemicals.

00:42:34.000 Yeah, but guess what?

00:42:35.000 You know, people still buy illegal weed despite the fact there's weed dispensaries on the corner in Vegas and in Denver.

00:42:40.000 You don't get rid of the illegal drug market, you only enhance them to go to harder drugs and things they can't get in the store itself.

00:42:46.000 There's more drug use in America than ever before, and we've legalized more drugs than ever before.

00:42:51.000 It's been the great failure of the drug project the last 10 years.

00:42:54.000 Every promise they've made is wrong.

00:42:55.000 Oh, it's going to weaken the cartels.

00:42:57.000 No, it's not.

00:42:57.000 They're stronger than ever.

00:42:58.000 Oh, we're going to get all this drug revenue.

00:42:59.000 Actually, not really.

00:43:01.000 There's more need for revenue because of the services that we can't even facilitate because of all the drugs.

00:43:06.000 Or how about this one?

00:43:07.000 They're like, oh, yeah, it's better because kids are passing drugs in school.

00:43:09.000 Yeah, now they're passing fentanyl in school, no longer weed in school.

00:43:14.000 And so, not only that, the crime, the vagrancy, the homelessness, the defecation, everywhere it's legalized has gotten more dangerous period.

00:43:21.000 So why would you want to bring that to our communities?

00:43:24.000 So it's not this, so that's, that's not what i'm asking.

00:43:29.000 That's that's not what I was uh, basically talking about here.

00:43:32.000 What i'm talking about is basically the consumption of the safetyness about of people who consume cannabis, and also there there are many many, lots of good benefits too in terms of a lot.

00:43:46.000 There are a lot of good terpenes in terms of limonene Also, pining actually.

00:43:51.000 Yeah, could I ask you, when was the last time you did weed, man?

00:43:54.000 Huh?

00:43:54.000 When was the last time you did weed?

00:43:57.000 Well, I may not answer that question.

00:44:00.000 Yeah, I think rather recently.

00:44:04.000 Hey, hey, but we still respect each other.

00:44:07.000 We do.

00:44:08.000 And thank you for being a walking commercial to not do drugs.

00:44:12.000 Thanks for being here tonight.

00:44:15.000 Don't do hard drugs.

00:44:21.000 I know you were all thinking it too as he was asking the question.

00:44:24.000 I could feel it.

00:44:25.000 All right.

00:44:26.000 Well, Charlie, it's an honor to be speaking with you.

00:44:29.000 You're a great inspiration of mine.

00:44:31.000 I would love to be in your field one day, kind of doing what you do, as well as the other guy that was talking about running for office.

00:44:37.000 I think that one thing that makes it very difficult a lot of times is that we live in a society that doesn't promote doing things differently, like you didn't go to college, and you're very adamant against the college scam.

00:44:52.000 But as well as different aspects, as we live in a world that is just very aggressive towards a lot of those different things.

00:44:58.000 And, like, for me as a high schooler, with a lot of steps I take, you know, to kind of get in that field, whether it be going to council meetings or doing a podcast, different things like that, what would you say that, whether it be a piece of literature or maybe social networking cues to pick up on, that would really enhance, maybe not enhance, but help you kind of beat that system?

00:45:22.000 Yeah, so look, you're talking about how to get into politics, basically, right, in some ways?

00:45:25.000 Yes, socially.

00:45:26.000 Here's the cool thing about politics it's a meritocracy.

00:45:28.000 You show up early, you stay late, you're going to get rewarded.

00:45:31.000 And I know there's some people running for office here tonight.

00:45:33.000 Glad you guys are here.

00:45:34.000 They're always looking for volunteers.

00:45:35.000 They're always looking for people to help them.

00:45:37.000 They're looking for people to show up early on Saturday to go knock on doors.

00:45:40.000 Be eager and willing.

00:45:42.000 Do not be above any job.

00:45:43.000 So, the kind of overgeneralized story of Turning Point USA doesn't mention that in high school, I knocked on 100,000 doors for some candidates in Illinois.

00:45:52.000 You've got to cut your teeth doing that, right?

00:45:54.000 You've got to knock on doors.

00:45:55.000 You've got to make phone calls.

00:45:56.000 You've got to get in the grassroots.

00:45:57.000 In politics, the cool thing is no one cares you went to school, no one cares your degrees, no one cares about that stuff.

00:46:02.000 They care about how much work you've put in.

00:46:04.000 That's the best advice I could give you.

00:46:06.000 You will move up so quickly in politics if you get in early, stay late, and don't complain.

00:46:11.000 Those three things get in early, stay late, and don't complain.

00:46:15.000 That's the best piece of advice I have for you.

00:46:16.000 Thank you.

00:46:21.000 And if you disagree, you guys can get preference.

00:46:23.000 I know our wonderful staff is helping out.

00:46:24.000 Hello, how are you?

00:46:25.000 Hi, good evening.

00:46:26.000 First of all, thank you for saying yes to the call that God has placed in your life, okay?

00:46:32.000 Congratulations to your beautiful bundle of joy.

00:46:37.000 Savor every moment because it flies.

00:46:42.000 Okay.

00:46:43.000 I have a direct quote from Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. 0.98

00:46:50.000 We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. 0.94

00:46:59.000 That is a direct quote. 0.76

00:47:02.000 So, my question is knowing that abortion takes the lives of babies of all colors and ethnic backgrounds. 0.98

00:47:10.000 But understanding is the black genocide of today. 0.99

00:47:14.000 Right, it is. 1.00

00:47:15.000 Hands down.

00:47:16.000 What have you discovered to be the most effective or creative way to combat the lies regarding this genocidal agenda?

00:47:24.000 I like you.

00:47:31.000 She's great. 1.00

00:47:35.000 It is black genocide, and thank you for saying that out loud. 0.98

00:47:37.000 I say that, and the media loses their mind. 0.99

00:47:39.000 But it disproportionately impacts the black community.

00:47:42.000 Life is beautiful, and life begins at conception.

00:47:44.000 And we are seeing disproportionate abortion clinics, Planned Parenthood clinics, and the founder was a eugenicist, period.

00:47:50.000 The founder of Planned Parenthood was a eugenicist.

00:47:53.000 Now, are the current leaders of it eugenicists? 0.61

00:47:55.000 We don't know, but if you were trying to exterminate the black population, how would you do things any differently than what Planned Parenthood is doing right now?

00:48:01.000 So, how do we go back against it? 0.94

00:48:03.000 We got to play offense.

00:48:04.000 We got to explain the pro life issue.

00:48:05.000 We got to talk about why life is beautiful.

00:48:07.000 And honestly, we also got to step up, those of us that are Christians and conservatives, with the resources, the charities, the services to make sure that we get rid of the myth of unwanted children.

00:48:17.000 There is not an unwanted child in America.

00:48:19.000 We just need to make sure people that are in crisis, that are pregnant, are able to find adoption services, find the services necessary.

00:48:25.000 That's the way I lead on it. 0.62

00:48:26.000 But honestly, I yield back to Malcolm X, who, number one, did call it a black genocide.

00:48:31.000 And I don't agree with Malcolm X on everything, but you know what else?

00:48:34.000 You know who he blamed?

00:48:35.000 The white liberal, and he was right. 0.98

00:48:37.000 This is a tyranny of the white liberal going after the black community. 0.95

00:48:41.000 Let me just kind of ask you a question in closing here.

00:48:44.000 What is your message to white liberals out there that are trying to push this in the black community? 0.97

00:48:49.000 Um, that if you don't do the research and if you don't understand, then shut up, do the research. 0.96

00:49:04.000 No, I'm serious, do the work, do the work, understand why.

00:49:09.000 That over, I think it's 88% of Planned Parenthoods are strategically placed in black and minority neighborhoods.

00:49:18.000 Why? 0.99

00:49:19.000 Let's reverse engineer. 0.98

00:49:21.000 Why is it like in the state of New York, there are more black babies being murdered in the womb than are alive? 1.00

00:49:30.000 So the words of Marcus Sanger have turned out to be prophetic.

00:49:34.000 And also, the abortion agenda is a multi billion dollar.

00:49:40.000 Industry.

00:49:41.000 There is money in dead baby parts.

00:49:44.000 You can find it.

00:49:45.000 It was found in food, cosmetics, everywhere.

00:49:48.000 So, this is the facts.

00:49:50.000 This is the truth.

00:49:53.000 Give it up for her.

00:49:54.000 That's great.

00:49:58.000 Give it up for her.

00:50:13.000 Evening.

00:50:15.000 My question is Who killed Dr. King?

00:50:20.000 Name escapes me.

00:50:22.000 The name?

00:50:23.000 The name escapes me, yeah, but I believe it, I mean, yeah, name escapes me.

00:50:27.000 Okay, so would you say it could be the FBI?

00:50:32.000 Could be.

00:50:33.000 Would you say that it is the FBI?

00:50:35.000 Not definitively, but I certainly don't trust the FBI after recent years, so I'm open minded.

00:50:42.000 Okay, so another point you made earlier.

00:50:45.000 What do you think about separation of church and state?

00:50:49.000 Doesn't exist.

00:50:50.000 It shouldn't exist.

00:50:51.000 Shouldn't exist?

00:50:52.000 Yeah.

00:50:52.000 So you should have church in the state.

00:50:54.000 Well, first, where in the Constitution does it say that?

00:50:56.000 We can't ask.

00:50:57.000 First Amendment.

00:50:57.000 Where?

00:50:58.000 It's about the religion, right?

00:51:00.000 So there's no exception of religion.

00:51:02.000 There's no exception.

00:51:03.000 It doesn't say that.

00:51:04.000 Yes, it does.

00:51:04.000 It says Congress shall make no law establishing religion or prohibiting the exercise thereof.

00:51:10.000 Where does it say church and state?

00:51:13.000 Religion.

00:51:14.000 Well, hold on.

00:51:14.000 It says that Congress shall make no official religion or prohibiting the exercise thereof.

00:51:19.000 Where does it say that the church can't get involved in the state?

00:51:22.000 It could be involved, but it can't be the religion established.

00:51:25.000 Hold on.

00:51:25.000 We're talking about two different things then.

00:51:27.000 Yeah.

00:51:27.000 No, see, like, because what you're saying is that, oh, you can be a Christian and be in the government.

00:51:31.000 And that's true.

00:51:32.000 That's how it works right now.

00:51:32.000 You can be a Christian and be in the government, right?

00:51:34.000 But you cannot establish Christianity as the basis of.

00:51:36.000 Well, no, that's not what I'm arguing.

00:51:37.000 I'm arguing that Christians should be in the government and the church should be actively involved.

00:51:40.000 Where do we get that phrase separation of church and state from?

00:51:44.000 The First Amendment.

00:51:45.000 No, we don't.

00:51:45.000 No, it's Thomas Jefferson writing to the Danbury Baptist Convention in Massachusetts assuring.

00:51:51.000 That the church would not come after the state.

00:51:53.000 So let me ask you a question.

00:51:54.000 Let's pretend that church and state is the law of the land, right?

00:51:57.000 That the Warren Court and the Burger Court argued in the 1950s and 1960s.

00:52:01.000 Then why on earth did we put up with the government going around and shutting down churches during the pandemic?

00:52:05.000 I thought we need separation of church and state.

00:52:08.000 Why is it that the government can go and shut down churches?

00:52:12.000 Okay, so they were.

00:52:13.000 Aren't they supposed to be separate?

00:52:14.000 I actually played for a church.

00:52:16.000 I played drum set, right?

00:52:17.000 So I played a church.

00:52:18.000 And they're not shutting up churches because of.

00:52:21.000 You know, COVID, they're saying that oh, it's unsafe to be in public and put it.

00:52:24.000 They shouldn't have the right to do it because I thought they're supposed to be separate, right?

00:52:29.000 I mean, for general safety.

00:52:30.000 I mean, if you want people like dying, then oh, so you could shut them down for safety, so it's not separate.

00:52:35.000 It's like we can come in for whatever reason we deem necessary to restrict your religion.

00:52:40.000 It's not restricting, you can practice from on camera.

00:52:43.000 We played like through live stream and like online, yeah.

00:52:46.000 So, watching church on a live stream is like watching a fireplace on TV, you could see everything with no warmth, okay?

00:52:51.000 But if God is real all the time and you can't go to church because of A disease going around.

00:52:56.000 What does it say in the Bible about do not forsake the gathering of believers where two or more are gathered in my name?

00:53:04.000 Okay, so what does it say about conception?

00:53:06.000 When does it begin?

00:53:07.000 Huh?

00:53:07.000 Conception?

00:53:08.000 I'm sorry, life begins?

00:53:10.000 At conception, of course.

00:53:11.000 I thought it said at first breath.

00:53:13.000 No, it actually doesn't say that.

00:53:15.000 What's the verse?

00:53:16.000 Well, hold on.

00:53:16.000 First of all, it says, I knew you before you were in the womb.

00:53:19.000 Yeah.

00:53:20.000 And what you are doing is paraphrasing what you consider to be ex nihilo out of nothing made in the image of God, the breath of God with actually where life begins.

00:53:27.000 So the question would be, Was John the Baptist a baby when he leapt in Elizabeth's womb?

00:53:34.000 Was he?

00:53:35.000 Are you a Christian?

00:53:37.000 Me?

00:53:37.000 Yeah.

00:53:38.000 Am I?

00:53:39.000 You play drums at a church, so I hope you're a Christian.

00:53:42.000 You too.

00:53:43.000 But you're missing the point, is what it sounds like.

00:53:46.000 No, I'm actually not missing the point.

00:53:47.000 I asked you the verse that says that it begins at conception.

00:53:52.000 Right, so I knew you before you were in the womb is one of many verses of which it reinforces that you should protect life in the womb.

00:53:59.000 But what you're doing is interpreting, right?

00:54:02.000 I want you to tell me where the scripture begins at.

00:54:04.000 How are you reading?

00:54:05.000 There's no book.

00:54:06.000 There's no book?

00:54:08.000 I've memorized scripture.

00:54:09.000 You should try it.

00:54:09.000 So you're reading it in your brain by now?

00:54:12.000 Well, no, in Jeremiah it says very clearly, I knew you before you were in the womb.

00:54:16.000 So when it says in the Bible that, it begins at first breath.

00:54:19.000 No, it doesn't say that.

00:54:21.000 It doesn't.

00:54:22.000 What does it say?

00:54:23.000 You're misquoting it very clearly.

00:54:24.000 Psalm 139, 13 through 16.

00:54:26.000 For you formed my inward parts, it says.

00:54:30.000 You wove me in my mother's womb, it says.

00:54:32.000 I will give thanks to you, for I'm fearfully and wonderfully made.

00:54:36.000 Wonderful are your works, and my soul knows it very well.

00:54:41.000 Fearfully, wonderfully made, and my inward works.

00:54:45.000 That sounds like a baby in the womb, doesn't it?

00:54:48.000 Yeah, well, a fetus in the womb.

00:54:50.000 A fetus in the womb?

00:54:51.000 Yeah.

00:54:52.000 What species is that fetus?

00:54:53.000 A fetus? 1.00

00:54:54.000 Species.

00:54:57.000 What species is that fetus?

00:55:00.000 Human.

00:55:00.000 So it would be a human life?

00:55:03.000 It would be eventually.

00:55:05.000 Oh, but when does it become a human life then?

00:55:07.000 When it's born, when it breathes.

00:55:08.000 Oh, really?

00:55:09.000 So that a 26 week old preemie baby that is saved because of a cesarean section isn't a baby until it comes out of the womb?

00:55:16.000 I mean, if it's born, it's born.

00:55:18.000 So, you believe that we should be able to terminate a pregnancy up until the moment of birth? 0.71

00:55:23.000 Did I say that?

00:55:24.000 I'm asking.

00:55:25.000 No.

00:55:26.000 Okay, so then what restriction on abortion would you give? 0.96

00:55:28.000 Well, if the woman who was giving birth is going to die.

00:55:32.000 Which never happens.

00:55:33.000 Which never happens.

00:55:34.000 That's right.

00:55:34.000 So, that's right.

00:55:35.000 It is a mythology that women will die if they have a baby. 0.99

00:55:38.000 That's right. 1.00

00:55:39.000 You could talk to entire communities of OBs. 0.82

00:55:41.000 You know why?

00:55:42.000 Because if the cesarean option is entertained, then you could save both the mother and the baby.

00:55:46.000 Instead, the abortion industry lies to the mother and they say that you must terminate the baby to save the mother's life. 0.62

00:55:52.000 You could talk to hundreds of Christian OBs and non Christian OBs, and they will tell you that is a mythology of the abortion industry.

00:56:00.000 You know what? 0.95

00:56:01.000 That's funny.

00:56:02.000 No, it's actually not funny.

00:56:04.000 No, I'm saying you, the way you represent facts, like willingly and knowingly.

00:56:08.000 I'm sorry?

00:56:08.000 The way you knowingly represent facts.

00:56:11.000 You say, oh, okay, abortion, oh, it's terrible because you can't possibly save the baby and you can't possibly save the mother.

00:56:18.000 It happens.

00:56:19.000 The 10 year old in Ohio, right?

00:56:21.000 Yes, a cesarean section could have saved the baby's life and the mother's life.

00:56:25.000 Do you know what a cesarean section is?

00:56:26.000 Do you?

00:56:27.000 Yes, my wife had one.

00:56:29.000 Okay.

00:56:32.000 I'm saying when they baby, right?

00:56:35.000 So, do you know what a cesarean section is or no?

00:56:37.000 I honestly don't know.

00:56:39.000 Yeah, so I would.

00:56:41.000 Here's a little word to the wise. 0.98

00:56:42.000 Let's quit while you're ahead. 1.00

00:56:43.000 A cesarean section is a medical intervention that saves tens of thousands of lives every single year, of a small slit done at the top of a woman's pelvis.

00:56:52.000 Yeah, cesarean section.

00:56:53.000 That's a C section abbreviated.

00:56:55.000 All right?

00:56:55.000 So, maybe that's where we get the term C section from.

00:56:58.000 So, guess what?

00:56:59.000 If every woman that's lied to by Planned Parenthood was given a c section instead of an abortion, then all of a sudden abortion would not be necessary to save their life. 0.73

00:57:08.000 Every single one of them.

00:57:09.000 If you talk to hundreds of OBs across the country, they will say medical necessary abortion is a lie.

00:57:15.000 Period.

00:57:16.000 End of story. 0.99

00:57:16.000 And you're pregnant, right? 0.99

00:57:18.000 Your tingers will be pregnant, okay? 0.99

00:57:19.000 So you really can't give birth through your womb. 0.99

00:57:23.000 You can't give birth through your womb.

00:57:24.000 So you do a c section. 0.99

00:57:25.000 How?

00:57:26.000 You cut them open and you lift the baby up and everyone lives.

00:57:30.000 How does the baby survive?

00:57:32.000 Hopefully, through a work of God and also medical technology, that is the most common surgery in America.

00:57:38.000 So, I'll kind of close with this and then we'll get to the next question because we're running low on time.

00:57:42.000 When does life begin?

00:57:44.000 At first breath.

00:57:45.000 At first breath. 0.99

00:57:46.000 That moral standard of first breath would therefore believe that you could have abortion up until the moment of birth.

00:57:54.000 Life begins at conception.

00:57:56.000 I'm going to say this as nicely as I possibly can.

00:57:59.000 You're a drummer at a church, you should probably reconsider that. 1.00

00:58:02.000 Because you are advocating for the most horrific and brutal eugenic non Christian abortion policies that I could possibly imagine. 0.99

00:58:11.000 I hope you prayerfully reconsider and repent. 1.00

00:58:13.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

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00:59:42.000 So I assume that you know about the trans woman in the girls' locker room in Vermont.

00:59:50.000 And so, I of course like to disagree with that completely. 0.83

00:59:54.000 And I don't believe we should accommodate for trans people, but for the safety of actual women and to avoid another situation like what happened in Virginia twice this year and last year with a boy who decided that he wanted to put on a skirt and go into the girls' restroom and decided to rape an actual girl.

01:00:13.000 Do you believe that we should make a trans locker room for people with this issue?

01:00:18.000 No. 0.99

01:00:19.000 We should not accommodate our society based on somebody's mental delusion or illness.

01:00:23.000 I hope they get treatment. 0.98

01:00:24.000 I hope they get compassionate treatment, which is not gender affirming care.

01:00:28.000 Psychologists should not affirm your delusion.

01:00:30.000 They should challenge you with love back into alignment of how God made you.

01:00:34.000 And so, what is the solution?

01:00:35.000 If you're a man who thinks you're a woman, go in the men's locker room. 0.74

01:00:38.000 Go wear a dress in the men's locker room. 1.00

01:00:40.000 Why do we need to accommodate you and put you in a locker room of your choosing?

01:00:42.000 Answer because we completely inverted our morality to give a platform to people that claim they're oppressed when in reality they aren't.

01:00:50.000 And we should not reconfigure society based on groups that say, oh, feel so sorry for me because I'm a victim.

01:00:55.000 Yeah, actually, that's not the way that we should do things.

01:00:57.000 Instead, you get A lot of other people having to reaccommodate their language, their speech, and their privacy, and the protection of our women for some sort of fringe mental illness that unfortunately is plaguing our country.

01:01:08.000 Thank you.

01:01:13.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:01:14.000 Oh, wait.

01:01:15.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:01:15.000 So you mentioned earlier that you wanted to meet an anti war left.

01:01:18.000 That's a genuine one. 0.72

01:01:18.000 Well, you've got one sitting right in front of you. 0.72

01:01:20.000 Praise God, man.

01:01:20.000 Thanks for being here.

01:01:21.000 So, pretty much every U.S. president for the past 20 years has disappointed the living hell out of me when it comes to foreign policy.

01:01:27.000 2003 invasion of Iraq, Barack Obama with that barbaric drone program, and frankly, Donald Trump's was not too much better. 0.52

01:01:34.000 And now Joe Biden, I don't like the $460 billion of weapons he sold to Saudi Arabia.

01:01:41.000 You know where he is.

01:01:41.000 That's fair, but come on.

01:01:42.000 I mean, Trump at least, let's go through Trump.

01:01:44.000 I mean, come on.

01:01:45.000 Now, listen, listen.

01:01:46.000 He didn't start World War III like CNN knows.

01:01:47.000 I acknowledge that.

01:01:48.000 Okay, well, we'll get him somewhere.

01:01:50.000 All right.

01:01:50.000 I'm just saying, I'm not going to pretend that he's this, you know, passive, that he's the all time pacifist because I don't see.

01:01:57.000 Well, no, I don't think he was an all time pacifist.

01:01:59.000 But could he at least agree he was the greatest challenge to the American foreign policy neoconservative regime in a generation?

01:02:06.000 I don't see it as that different from Barack Obama's drone strikes, the intervention.

01:02:09.000 Okay, let's go through it then.

01:02:10.000 Okay, so Trump was given a choice whether or not to escalate in Afghanistan or to draw down.

01:02:16.000 He was drawn down correctly.

01:02:17.000 And he went against every one of his generals.

01:02:19.000 They intervened.

01:02:20.000 Here's the problem: the numbers actually fluctuated throughout his presidency.

01:02:23.000 They didn't go through with it.

01:02:23.000 But there was a withdrawal plan.

01:02:25.000 Admittedly, he didn't go through with it.

01:02:26.000 Yeah, because he didn't get reelected.

01:02:28.000 And don't get me wrong, I'm not a big fan of Joe Biden's withdrawal plan, in my opinion.

01:02:33.000 No, that was a catastrophe.

01:02:34.000 It was an insult to everybody.

01:02:35.000 The troops should have been the last ones to leave. 0.81

01:02:37.000 They should have kept a barrier between the Taliban and Kabul.

01:02:39.000 That was pretty obvious.

01:02:40.000 It's also like you got to remove a kidney.

01:02:42.000 You don't take a pocket knife and just start, you know, that was basically our.

01:02:45.000 Our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

01:02:46.000 Exactly, but what I really want to do.

01:02:47.000 But hold on, let's go through the Trump thing.

01:02:48.000 I think I might be able to win you over on this.

01:02:50.000 Okay.

01:02:50.000 He's the only president to be able to administer peace between Israel and Arab partners.

01:02:54.000 That's a good thing. 0.90

01:02:55.000 Yeah, it's a good thing.

01:02:56.000 Right.

01:02:56.000 He was also, he rejected calls and clamor to escalate with Iran that very well could have been even worse than the Ukrainian escalation.

01:03:05.000 He met with Putin to try to de escalate tensions with Russia.

01:03:08.000 I mean, Khan, you got to give some acknowledgement here, right?

01:03:11.000 The Iran thing, actually, with Soleimani, I don't think that was a de escalation.

01:03:14.000 I don't think the president of the United States can. 0.94

01:03:17.000 Basically, drone a general that Congress, that we have not declared war on.

01:03:21.000 That's actually probably a fair point.

01:03:22.000 But I would disagree in this.

01:03:24.000 I'd agree on the congressional part.

01:03:25.000 I'd disagree on the.

01:03:26.000 I think he has universal war powers after that.

01:03:29.000 I think that dropping bombs on generals that are actually fighting ISIS in Syria, I think that's a bad idea.

01:03:34.000 Yeah, they're a little more complicated.

01:03:35.000 Solomon killed a bunch of Americans.

01:03:36.000 It's a lot more complicated than that.

01:03:37.000 All right, but here's the thing, though.

01:03:38.000 Was it wars potentially risking a war that would kill more?

01:03:41.000 It didn't.

01:03:42.000 But what if it did, though?

01:03:43.000 Yeah, no.

01:03:44.000 So it's a hypothetical that resulted in actually de escalated tensions.

01:03:47.000 But here's what I think I will agree with you on.

01:03:48.000 Is that the Ukrainian thing?

01:03:50.000 Let's focus on that, right?

01:03:51.000 Yeah, you're right. 0.93

01:03:51.000 What's going on with Ukraine is insane. 0.93

01:03:53.000 We should all agree with that. 0.97

01:03:54.000 It is wrong to send $75 billion to a proxy war that we might end up having to fight a nuclear armed power. 0.75

01:03:59.000 You agree with that, right? 0.95

01:04:00.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.98

01:04:01.000 This country, our schools are trash, our infrastructure is trash, $3 trillion in debt. 0.96

01:04:05.000 We're sending $40 billion overseas. 0.99

01:04:07.000 That's insane.

01:04:07.000 Let me ask you a question, and I agree with you, and we should applaud that.

01:04:10.000 Let me ask you a question, though.

01:04:10.000 Why is it that you have to come to a conservative event to be applauded for that?

01:04:14.000 Where is that on the left right now?

01:04:15.000 I don't see it.

01:04:15.000 Do you?

01:04:16.000 Not as much as I would like to.

01:04:17.000 I'll admit that to you.

01:04:18.000 Why do you think that is?

01:04:20.000 Truthfully, I'm not really sure.

01:04:21.000 I've just been bogged down in school, honestly.

01:04:24.000 I changed majors.

01:04:24.000 Good answer.

01:04:25.000 Yeah, I mean, honestly, not everyone can follow this stuff as obsessively as I do.

01:04:28.000 Here's the answer I have, though.

01:04:30.000 It's because neoliberalism has taken over the American left.

01:04:32.000 And the only place, I'm going to ask you and think about this for the coming months and years, the only place left for critical discussion on the international American empire, which should not exist, is here on the American right.

01:04:43.000 We won't agree on everything, but I think there's going to be oxygen in the room because the Democrat Party and the American left has unfortunately become just this war clamoring machine.

01:04:51.000 Thanks for being here tonight.

01:04:52.000 Appreciate the honesty.

01:04:53.000 Thank you.

01:04:58.000 All right.

01:04:59.000 Hello, darling.

01:05:00.000 My name is James Friday.

01:05:01.000 I am, first of all, I want to completely second everything my sister just said.

01:05:05.000 That was really good.

01:05:06.000 And then, no, no, no, no.

01:05:08.000 She wasn't, no, no, no.

01:05:10.000 It's a figure of speech. 0.99

01:05:11.000 The black girl that was up here. 0.91

01:05:15.000 So, I have an advice question and a request.

01:05:20.000 So, the first one is do you have any advice about medical school and law school?

01:05:23.000 Like, I want to do that.

01:05:24.000 And so, like, which one to go to?

01:05:25.000 Because it's, Really terrible at the University of Michigan.

01:05:28.000 It's bad out there.

01:05:29.000 Liberty University has a pretty good.

01:05:31.000 The DO program, I heard about that.

01:05:33.000 Yale?

01:05:33.000 No, no, no.

01:05:34.000 The DO program.

01:05:34.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, no, they do.

01:05:35.000 I'm sorry.

01:05:36.000 I thought you said Yale.

01:05:36.000 I misheard.

01:05:37.000 Yes, but Liberty has a better one than most schools, and they're not woke.

01:05:42.000 They're really strong and conservative, and they do a great job.

01:05:45.000 You should give it up.

01:05:46.000 Liberty does a nice job.

01:05:47.000 But the list is very, very minimal.

01:05:50.000 Even Baylor has gone totally off the rails, unfortunately.

01:05:57.000 But Baylor's not the worst.

01:05:59.000 Just, if you want to go to medical school, don't go to Michigan.

01:06:01.000 I mean, I love our Michigan fans out there.

01:06:03.000 They're great people, but they've gone so off the rails, woke, unfortunately.

01:06:06.000 Here's the big thing.

01:06:07.000 Get involved with your turning point group, stake, get a good church community, get through it as quickly as possible.

01:06:12.000 I think you're going to make a great lawyer or doctor, whatever you end up with.

01:06:15.000 Both, both, both.

01:06:16.000 Good for you, man.

01:06:17.000 That's awesome.

01:06:19.000 You got to ask really quick.

01:06:20.000 We got to keep going.

01:06:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:22.000 We'll take a couple more.

01:06:23.000 Can I be on your show?

01:06:24.000 Can I be on my show?

01:06:25.000 Can I be on your show?

01:06:26.000 Well, you already are because you're here right now.

01:06:28.000 No, no, but podcast and all that.

01:06:29.000 Possibly.

01:06:30.000 Okay.

01:06:31.000 We'll talk.

01:06:31.000 All right.

01:06:32.000 Thank you.

01:06:34.000 All right, a couple more.

01:06:36.000 I'm a student here at UNC Charlotte, and I just had a question.

01:06:39.000 You have claimed to support free speech and right to assembly.

01:06:42.000 Then, why was Brandi Love kicked out of a Turning Point USA event in Tampa, Florida, in July of 2021?

01:06:48.000 Right. 1.00

01:06:48.000 So, Brandi Love is a pornography actress, and we have minors at our event. 1.00

01:06:53.000 I will defend to anybody in any venue or forum not allowing people that spread or participate in pornography to be co mingling or socializing around minors.

01:07:03.000 Well, the clothes that Brandi was wearing and the The conversation she was having had nothing to do with her pornography.

01:07:15.000 Yeah, I don't care.

01:07:15.000 If you participate in pornography, you're not going to be around young children.

01:07:18.000 I'm not going to endorse that as an organizer.

01:07:20.000 I'm not going to act like that's normal and that it's okay.

01:07:23.000 If you engage in something that so many young men struggle with, that are addicted to, that are destroying marriages, I consider you to be a willful participant in a parasitic force in America, and that does not have a place at a Turning Point USA event.

01:07:41.000 I disagree, but thank you so much for your time.

01:07:43.000 Thank you so much for being on campus.

01:07:44.000 Appreciate it.

01:07:45.000 All right, the last question.

01:07:47.000 I'll try to keep it spicy for y'all.

01:07:50.000 What's up, Charles, man? 1.00

01:07:52.000 You're on record for stating, and I quote, this is the gayest generation of America. 1.00

01:07:56.000 What are your overall thoughts on this?

01:07:57.000 Because some of your opponents seem to believe you have homosexual tendencies. 0.99

01:08:03.000 Well, it is the gayest generation ever. 0.60

01:08:05.000 Every fact shows that more young people are gay than any other generation. 1.00

01:08:09.000 So, is there something you'd like to tell me, or do you want to just read off a phone and parrot some of this stuff? 0.97

01:08:13.000 I mean, I wrote down that question, obviously, because it was a quote.

01:08:17.000 So, I mean, I didn't want to mess it up and then you'd come for me or anything like that.

01:08:20.000 So, like I said, man, what are your overall thoughts on that?

01:08:22.000 On my thoughts?

01:08:23.000 Yeah.

01:08:23.000 Yeah, I think my record of my marriage speaks for itself.

01:08:25.000 But is there something you want to tell us about your own?

01:08:28.000 I mean, you don't got to accuse me of being gay.

01:08:30.000 Just because you're married doesn't mean that you're not homosexual. 0.72

01:08:32.000 Well, you came up here asking about the gayest generation. 1.00

01:08:34.000 I got some questions about you, man.

01:08:36.000 I mean, you're coming to my campus that I represent calling us, you know, one of the gayest generations in America.

01:08:42.000 One out of five young people are lesbian, gay, or trans.

01:08:45.000 And even though I don't. 1.00

01:08:46.000 It's the gayest generation ever. 1.00

01:08:47.000 Congrats, man. 1.00

01:08:50.000 Congrats?

01:08:50.000 No, it's not a good thing, actually.

01:08:52.000 Okay.

01:08:52.000 All right.

01:08:53.000 Well, I mean, my point is, you're coming to our campus, you know, obviously saying that.

01:08:57.000 No, I didn't say it.

01:08:58.000 You repeated it, but I'm happy to defend it.

01:08:59.000 No, you did say it.

01:09:00.000 You did quote it.

01:09:01.000 No, not early in my speech, but I'm happy to repeat it.

01:09:04.000 Oh, yeah, not in your speech, obviously. 1.00

01:09:05.000 It is the gayest generation in American history. 1.00

01:09:07.000 That's a fact. 1.00

01:09:08.000 Do you disagree with that?

01:09:10.000 No, I don't disagree with that because I feel like we've been in a.

01:09:12.000 Then what's the question here?

01:09:15.000 My question was just what are your overall thoughts on the quote and, you know.

01:09:18.000 My thought, I defend the quote.

01:09:19.000 Okay, cool, cool.

01:09:20.000 Appreciate your time, man.

01:09:22.000 Yeah.

01:09:23.000 Thanks, man.

01:09:23.000 Yeah.

01:09:27.000 Internet's gonna love that one.

01:09:29.000 Yeah, you'll be real famous in about 25 minutes, dude.

01:09:32.000 Yeah.

01:09:35.000 Hey, so I just wanted to, like, I disagree with you on your position on Ukraine.

01:09:40.000 So I think, I believe that we should do everything we can to help Ukraine.

01:09:44.000 Now, you say that we're sending billions of dollars to Ukraine, but actually, that's the valuation of the equipment we're sending to Ukraine.

01:09:55.000 So we're not actually sending money.

01:09:57.000 Well, right.

01:09:57.000 We've appropriated $75 billion of our budget to buy bullets and weapons and missiles and then send them to Ukraine.

01:10:03.000 How much?

01:10:05.000 I believe that's the equipment we already have.

01:10:07.000 No, no, it's reappropriated dollars that otherwise would be used in other combat theaters or other deployments, other areas that are then being sent.

01:10:14.000 It has to come from somewhere, right?

01:10:16.000 So we already have it.

01:10:17.000 You have to replenish it eventually.

01:10:19.000 But let me ask you how much money would be too much money to spend in Ukraine?

01:10:24.000 I don't think there's too much money.

01:10:26.000 I mean, Ukraine is fighting for their freedom.

01:10:29.000 So how about $2 trillion?

01:10:31.000 Is that too much?

01:10:34.000 Well, wait, that's a big, that's a lot.

01:10:37.000 But I believe the amount we're saying right now is adequate for them to win the war.

01:10:44.000 Well, why is it our responsibility to help them win a war?

01:10:49.000 Because Ukraine was unprovoked and they wanted to actually join the European Union?

01:10:56.000 Okay, so under that, then it's our moral guideline to do that.

01:10:59.000 Why?

01:11:03.000 Wait, repeat your question.

01:11:04.000 But why is that on the American interest with all the problems we have domestically?

01:11:08.000 We've been unprovoked.

01:11:09.000 We've had 2 million people cross into our country via an invasion, and yet we're sending arms and missiles and training and equipment and troops and money to a country that most people can't find on a map 5,000 miles away that's not a U.S. state.

01:11:21.000 Why is that our concern?

01:11:23.000 Well, I believe it's the right thing to do.

01:11:24.000 And the equipment is not being used.

01:11:29.000 What does success look like in Ukraine? 0.81

01:11:33.000 All the territories return to Ukraine.

01:11:35.000 Then you're prepared for a 50 year war?

01:11:38.000 I don't believe it will be the 50 year war.

01:11:40.000 Does Eastern Ukraine want to be part of Ukraine or Russia?

01:11:44.000 Well, I believe that Eastern Ukraine, the inhabitants of Eastern Ukraine, are originally Russian inhabitants.

01:11:53.000 Yeah, they speak Russian and they love Putin.

01:11:55.000 So why should we tell them to go be part of Ukraine when they want to be part of Russia? 0.57

01:11:58.000 Well, why don't they move to Russia instead of seceding from Ukraine? 0.84

01:12:02.000 Well, because they like their home, which used to be Russia, which is actually where Russia was founded, and they want to live in Eastern Ukraine and call it Russia. 0.86

01:12:09.000 Why are we telling them they have to be part of Russia? 0.63

01:12:11.000 Ukraine.

01:12:12.000 Who are we to say that?

01:12:13.000 Why is that our concern?

01:12:14.000 And if we get this wrong, we could slip and fall and end in a nuclear war.

01:12:20.000 Well, you can't capitulate to another power if they're threatening nuclear war.

01:12:26.000 How would you feel if Canada said, oh, we're going to annex South?

01:12:30.000 I mean, use another example.

01:12:31.000 The Canadians would never do that.

01:12:32.000 So use another example.

01:12:33.000 All right.

01:12:35.000 Well, say China.

01:12:35.000 All right.

01:12:37.000 Okay.

01:12:38.000 Fine. 0.93

01:12:39.000 They would annex Japan. 0.83

01:12:40.000 And they said, oh, Let us do it or we will nuke you. 0.90

01:12:43.000 Is that fair?

01:12:44.000 Is that should we capitulate?

01:12:45.000 First of all, Japan doesn't want to be part of China.

01:12:47.000 87% of Eastern Ukrainians vote regularly to be part of Russia.

01:12:51.000 This is a very murky situation.

01:12:53.000 Zelensky was not democratically elected.

01:12:55.000 He was displaced in a color revolution by our Central Intelligence Agency.

01:12:59.000 And he's not very well liked in Ukraine.

01:13:01.000 It's 50 50. 1.00

01:13:03.000 It's just true. 0.93

01:13:04.000 And so, look, is Putin a thug? 0.96

01:13:06.000 Of course he is. 0.94

01:13:06.000 He shouldn't have invaded Ukraine. 0.94

01:13:08.000 Why is that our concern?

01:13:09.000 And let me ask you this do you think we have more pressing things happening here domestically?

01:13:13.000 That we should probably be focusing on?

01:13:15.000 Well, I believe we do have the.

01:13:17.000 I believe we could do both simultaneously.

01:13:20.000 Are we?

01:13:23.000 I believe so.

01:13:24.000 No, I don't think so.

01:13:25.000 Because, so you say the territorial integrity of Ukraine.

01:13:28.000 What gets me fired up is that our elected representatives are screaming from the rooftops about Ukraine. 0.58

01:13:33.000 Ukraine, I don't see them appropriating even a billion, five billion for a southern border wall, but they're really quick to go make sure Ukraine is their bullets to go fight a war that honestly Russia's going to end up winning.

01:13:44.000 So you believe we're being invaded by Mexican immigrants? 0.70

01:13:49.000 By the cartel, yes, two million people a year. 0.88

01:13:51.000 We are being invaded, yes. 0.99

01:13:53.000 And they're not immigrants, they're border jumpers, line cutters, and foreign criminals that are coming into our country knowingly breaking our laws. 1.00

01:13:59.000 Well, that's different.

01:14:00.000 They're not coming over here trying to annex our territory.

01:14:05.000 That's what Russia is doing.

01:14:06.000 Well, many of them are coming with fentanyl, which kills 90,000 people a year.

01:14:10.000 They're sex trafficking young women, anywhere between 20,000 to 30,000 people a year.

01:14:15.000 They're bringing guns.

01:14:16.000 They come here illegally. 1.00

01:14:17.000 That's an invasion. 0.99

01:14:19.000 And that sounds like an annexation of a country. 0.91

01:14:21.000 The point is this Ukraine might be the most noble effort ever. 1.00

01:14:24.000 It isn't. 1.00

01:14:25.000 I'm just going to be honest.

01:14:26.000 You'll see.

01:14:26.000 You'll learn that over time.

01:14:27.000 They're an unbelievably corrupt government. 0.99

01:14:29.000 They're backwards. 1.00

01:14:29.000 They're money launderers. 1.00

01:14:30.000 They're criminals. 1.00

01:14:31.000 And they should have to fend for themselves. 0.99

01:14:32.000 Ukraine should not be part of NATO.

01:14:34.000 They're not a NATO country.

01:14:35.000 They shouldn't be.

01:14:36.000 And to put us in that will make every single one of your lives be put in jeopardy to go fight a war that we should not fight.

01:14:41.000 This is what it is Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, and Lockheed Martin, the war industry and the defense contractors, are using this entire thing as a way to get us dangerously close to another proxy war.

01:14:52.000 While we care about a far distant conflict that looks nice on cable television, while our wages go down, our kids are the most suicidal, depressed, alcohol addicted, drug addicted, psychiatric addicted, least educated, least socialized, least married, and least likely to have children in generation history.

01:15:05.000 But I have to be lectured by my leaders that I have to go send money to Ukraine. 0.62

01:15:08.000 Why does that make sense?

01:15:09.000 Like I said, we can do both.

01:15:10.000 I believe we can do both.

01:15:11.000 But we aren't, and that's the point.

01:15:12.000 Our leaders better start looking inwardly and not distantly and foreignly.

01:15:16.000 That's what pays the bills.

01:15:17.000 I get that.

01:15:17.000 There's a lot of money laundered through there, but guess what?

01:15:20.000 We're the ones that eventually they have to answer to. 0.92

01:15:22.000 Ukraine is a lost cause. 1.00

01:15:23.000 It's not worth our time, our energy, our attention. 1.00

01:15:26.000 The people of Ukraine are the true victims. 1.00

01:15:27.000 I wish them the best.

01:15:28.000 I want our leaders to put us first and not the people or the regime of Ukraine.

01:15:32.000 Thank you for being here.

01:15:36.000 Okay.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 13, 2026

From the Archive: Charlie’s 2022 Live Free Tour Q&A at UNC Charlotte

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