The Charlie Kirk Show - June 06, 2026


From the Archive: The Choice to be Joyful — Charlie's Q&A at CLS 2023


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In this episode, I sit down with Turning Point USA's President, Charlie Kirk, to talk about the importance of a positive mindset and how to deal with the things in life that are out of your control. I hope you enjoy this episode and that it encourages you to do the same!

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.
00:00:19.000 But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.
00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.
00:00:26.000 You've got to stop sending your kids to college.
00:00:27.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.
00:00:31.000 Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter.
00:00:33.000 Go start a Turning Point USA High School chapter.
00:00:35.000 Go find out how your church can get involved.
00:00:37.000 Sign up and become an activist.
00:00:39.000 I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade.
00:00:41.000 Most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same.
00:00:45.000 Here I am.
00:00:46.000 Lord, use me.
00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:49.000 Here we go.
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00:01:17.000 Hey, Charlie, my name is Caden Smith.
00:01:20.000 Big fan of yours.
00:01:22.000 So, at my college campus, we have about five people in my Turning Point chapter.
00:01:30.000 So, what is your greatest advice to combat against people tearing down your table, breaking into your dorm room, and all this other crazy stuff?
00:01:41.000 I'm sorry?
00:01:41.000 Wow, what school again?
00:01:42.000 Mid Plains Community College in North Platte, Nebraska.
00:01:45.000 So I'm sorry you have to deal with the boy breaking into your dorm room.
00:01:51.000 That's, I don't hear that one often.
00:01:53.000 First, how do you deal with it?
00:01:55.000 Attitude wise, this is another thing they don't teach you in college.
00:01:58.000 How do you handle negativity and suffering?
00:02:04.000 No.
00:02:06.000 Don't do that.
00:02:07.000 Don't do that.
00:02:09.000 Do you complain?
00:02:11.000 Or do you look at it as a potential blessing in your life?
00:02:15.000 You are 100% in control of the attitude that you bring to things that are out of your control.
00:02:24.000 Secular society and modern society say that you are a victim of your circumstances.
00:02:30.000 I'm here to tell you that you get to choose how you handle your circumstances.
00:02:34.000 And so, for example, okay, our table gets torn down, they break into your dorm room.
00:02:39.000 You have two choices I'm a victim, feel sorry for me.
00:02:43.000 I want special rights and privileges.
00:02:44.000 Number two, Wow, this is making me tougher.
00:02:46.000 I'm going to grow closer to the people I care about.
00:02:49.000 Our five chapter members are going to be tighter knit than ever before.
00:02:51.000 I'm going to have some great stories, and boy, I'm more motivated to defeat these Marxists than I was before I started my turning point group.
00:02:59.000 Boom!
00:02:59.000 Mindset shift.
00:03:01.000 You have a choice to do that.
00:03:02.000 And our society now is non stop about something.
00:03:06.000 You are just a creation of the stuff.
00:03:08.000 No, you are a creation of who you choose to be.
00:03:12.000 You are a creation of the mindset you bring to the game.
00:03:15.000 And so, yeah, bad stuff can happen to you.
00:03:17.000 Sickness.
00:03:18.000 Death, unexpected car crashes, injury.
00:03:22.000 Do you view it as a chance to become better or not?
00:03:25.000 How many people have read Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl?
00:03:28.000 Anybody?
00:03:29.000 Well, that's actually more hands.
00:03:30.000 I think some of you want to ask questions, so I can't tell.
00:03:33.000 You should all read Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl, Holocaust survivor.
00:03:37.000 No one can say that I'm suffering and then read Viktor Frankl's book.
00:03:41.000 The guy lost his wife, concentration camp survivor, and he says if you go through life with an attitude that this is a chance to improve and become a better person, You have the agency to do that.
00:03:54.000 And so, how do you handle it?
00:03:56.000 Look at it as a blessing.
00:03:57.000 Get tougher, get stronger, as a chance to grow your impact.
00:04:01.000 And I will say this again. 0.85
00:04:02.000 If you're involved with Turning Point USA, the maggots will attack you. 0.98
00:04:06.000 Good.
00:04:07.000 You will become stronger while your counterparts grow weaker.
00:04:12.000 Next question.
00:04:16.000 Where are we at?
00:04:17.000 I have no idea.
00:04:17.000 Mr. Kirk, in the center here.
00:04:19.000 Okay.
00:04:20.000 I'll stand up.
00:04:21.000 Mr. Kirk, how do we ascend to your level of bastem and also.
00:04:27.000 Basedem?
00:04:28.000 Yes, being based, essentially.
00:04:31.000 How do we make Time in our busy schedules, or how would one make time in their busy schedules for the pursuit of wisdom and that sort of thing?
00:04:41.000 Great question.
00:04:42.000 What school do you go to?
00:04:44.000 I am the only member here from Westfield State University in Massachusetts.
00:04:47.000 Well, God bless you for being here.
00:04:49.000 I have no idea where that is in Massachusetts, but that any far west you get to Albany.
00:04:54.000 So even further west than Worcester.
00:04:55.000 Okay.
00:04:56.000 Yes.
00:04:56.000 All right.
00:04:57.000 God bless you.
00:04:57.000 Thanks for being here.
00:04:58.000 I'm going to say this as non braggadociously as a human being can.
00:05:04.000 You guys are not busier than I am.
00:05:06.000 Okay?
00:05:07.000 I'm just gonna be honest.
00:05:08.000 We got 400 employees.
00:05:10.000 I gotta raise $100 million a year.
00:05:12.000 I do three hours of radio.
00:05:13.000 I have a daughter, a wife, and I gotta deal with the New York Times and whatever government agency wants to put me in prison.
00:05:19.000 Okay?
00:05:19.000 If you're busier than me, I wanna meet you.
00:05:22.000 You make time for what you care about podcasting, wake up earlier, stop doing drugs, stop drinking, listen to podcasts that matter or Hillsdale online courses, whatever it is.
00:05:34.000 You're not busy, you think you're busy.
00:05:38.000 If I told you that your life will end in 30 days unless you walk for an hour a day, you'd find time to do that.
00:05:48.000 It's a matter of what matters most to you.
00:05:50.000 So you're probably going to have to subtract something from that equation, okay?
00:05:55.000 The easy stuff to subtract, here's a super easy equation, okay?
00:05:59.000 You could do your own audit.
00:06:01.000 Are you spending time with people that gossip more than pursue beautiful things?
00:06:06.000 If yes, stop being friends with those people, waste the time.
00:06:09.000 Number two, are you looking at a screen of content that is not teaching you things or fulfilling things?
00:06:15.000 Stop it.
00:06:16.000 Do you have social media apps on your phone?
00:06:18.000 You shouldn't.
00:06:19.000 Number four, are you doing substances that do not make you feel good after you do them once the high wears off?
00:06:26.000 Stop doing those substances.
00:06:28.000 If you're doing those four things and you tell me you're busy, you're not busy.
00:06:33.000 You're distracted.
00:06:34.000 It's a big difference.
00:06:36.000 And so, what my advice to you is you carve out the time.
00:06:39.000 Hillsdale online courses, charlieforhillsdale.com.
00:06:42.000 You listen to the Charlie Kirk Show, listen to the Matt Walsh Show, listen, there's Victor Davis Hansen stuff.
00:06:47.000 Like, there's, I could give you a hundred books, literally a hundred books to read that you guys could dive into, but you have to want it.
00:06:54.000 It's going to take a thousand hours of study within a couple years.
00:07:00.000 But here's the cool thing once you go on this, there is no greater joy except getting married, having kids, and giving your life to Jesus.
00:07:07.000 So, like, no greater, like, daily joy, like, no greater daily joy than learning.
00:07:16.000 The first line of Aristotle's metaphysics all men desire to know.
00:07:21.000 Dive deep, challenge yourself, read the great books.
00:07:25.000 You'll start to get to a level of joy and understanding of wisdom that I think our generation is missing.
00:07:31.000 Yes?
00:07:33.000 Thank you so much for being here with us today.
00:07:35.000 So, you mentioned how it's maybe not a good idea to go into law, but I'm someone who really enjoys law and I want to go to law school and be a constitutional lawyer.
00:07:44.000 And I think we owe a lot to conservative judges like Scalia, Alito, Thomas, even Rehnquist from the 70s.
00:07:50.000 So, do you think it's better to not abandon these fields and instead try to take over them?
00:07:56.000 As we see, the law has an effect on our daily lives, seen through recent Supreme Court decisions and even through COVID.
00:08:01.000 And what advice would you give to someone who wants to go into law and is a super staunch conservative?
00:08:06.000 No, I mean, look, if you have the temperament and the self-discipline, go do it.
00:08:10.000 I wouldn't be able to go through forced diversity, equity, inclusion courses at a law school.
00:08:16.000 That's what you're going to have to do, right? 0.89
00:08:18.000 To go to a respectable law school, you're going to have to write paper after paper on why the Constitution is trash. 0.75
00:08:24.000 I wouldn't be able to do that.
00:08:26.000 So, more power to you if you're willing to write that and do that.
00:08:30.000 Every law school is captured, basically, every single one.
00:08:32.000 But you're right, we do need to have people go into elite society that actually love the country and share our values.
00:08:40.000 But everyone's wired differently.
00:08:42.000 I personally would not be able to go through that kind of humiliation exercise against my deeply, deeply held beliefs.
00:08:48.000 But yes, I mean, Amy Coney Barrett, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch is whatever, Scalia is amazing.
00:08:55.000 We need a new wave.
00:08:59.000 Of conservative legal scholars, and you seem like the type of person who needs to do it, so I'll back you 100% in that effort.
00:09:06.000 God bless you.
00:09:07.000 Charlie, on your left, right here.
00:09:09.000 Guy standing up right here.
00:09:11.000 All right.
00:09:12.000 So, Charlie, my name is Charlie as well.
00:09:13.000 I'm from Seattle, Washington.
00:09:15.000 So, we are in the middle of a huge culture war, and I really enjoy the point of view that every chapter is its own military base.
00:09:23.000 And so, every war needs a game winning strategy.
00:09:26.000 And so, Charlie, as one of our great generals, what's our game winning strategy?
00:09:31.000 All right, so it's gonna be a long war, let me tell you that.
00:09:35.000 This is not gonna end by, you know, the break of summer, to use a military analogy.
00:09:39.000 Number one, you do not apologize to the bad guys unless you know you've done something wrong.
00:09:47.000 You do not apologize to the bad guys by forced Maoist style indoctrination.
00:09:55.000 Number two, you never surrender to their will.
00:09:57.000 Number three, you must be happy.
00:10:00.000 Happiness is a choice.
00:10:03.000 You're like, what?
00:10:05.000 Do you know happiness does not happen to you?
00:10:08.000 You need to work on your happiness.
00:10:12.000 That's Prager's book, Happiness is a Serious Problem.
00:10:14.000 It will change your life as soon as you recognize that.
00:10:17.000 Happiness does not happen to you.
00:10:19.000 You choose to be happy.
00:10:21.000 And if your college is not teaching you that, your college is doing a big disservice to you.
00:10:25.000 Why does happiness and joy matter?
00:10:27.000 Because they'll never be able to take that from you if you decide that's who you're going to be.
00:10:33.000 Ever.
00:10:34.000 And again, I believe the true joy comes from relationship with the Lord.
00:10:37.000 I hope you guys make that same decision.
00:10:40.000 And so we must be joyful warriors.
00:10:44.000 What is the battle plan?
00:10:45.000 More than even law.
00:10:46.000 I'm so glad you're doing that.
00:10:48.000 But we need entrepreneurs.
00:10:50.000 We need some of you guys to go start the next Google, the next Salesforce, the next Ford Motor Company.
00:10:56.000 We need that badly.
00:10:57.000 Can one of you go become a billionaire in the next five years and we'll have a lot to talk about?
00:11:02.000 Okay?
00:11:03.000 Like somebody go found conservative Snapchat or something.
00:11:07.000 And like, come back in five years, I'll name the whole chapter leadership summit after you, okay?
00:11:13.000 Yeah, I won't have a problem with that 100 million a year, right?
00:11:16.000 Exactly.
00:11:17.000 One of you, please go get fabulously wealthy, very quickly, because we need our own George Soros, okay?
00:11:24.000 What is the battle plan?
00:11:25.000 We need you guys to go take risks and not just go work for people, but go employ people and go get very rich and then go give money to go defeat the maggots, okay?
00:11:35.000 So, I got a lot more to that, but, and then finally, in your own personal life, you need to be personally conservative.
00:11:41.000 Men, stop watching pornography.
00:11:43.000 Women, stop watching pornography because a lot of women are watching pornography. 0.81
00:11:47.000 Stop doing drugs, get married, and save yourself for marriage, and then have Mormon levels of children, and then get rich and donate them back to Turning Point USA. 1.00
00:11:56.000 Okay.
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00:13:53.000 Okay, so this is actually a really perfectly timed question for that response.
00:13:57.000 It's about mindsets, it's about happiness.
00:13:59.000 Last summer I was assigned a book for a class.
00:14:01.000 Another reason to hate college with this one.
00:14:03.000 It was called Bright Sided Why Positive Thinking is Undermining America.
00:14:08.000 I had to read this book.
00:14:09.000 It was torture.
00:14:11.000 The general assertion is that being hopeful, being positive, being happy, being Satisfied with things being grateful are toxic and are undermining America in a variety of ways, as you went in the book.
00:14:23.000 All to make the not very subtle assertion that it's Republicans, it's conservatives, because of all the data out there that we're too happy.
00:14:31.000 Yes.
00:14:33.000 So I wanted to know what your response is and why one of the main points is that we don't like demand enough, we're not progressive enough, we don't want more entitlements.
00:14:41.000 But I think we demand a lot in like a higher standard, not in like handouts.
00:14:47.000 I wanted to know your thought on that assertion, that book that I had to read for a class.
00:14:50.000 Okay.
00:14:51.000 So, first of all, you should, before you ever, this is a good life lesson, before you ever demand anything from your society or your government or from others, you must demand excellence from yourself.
00:15:05.000 Before you ever demand anything from society or others, you must demand excellence from yourself.
00:15:13.000 If you are unshaven and like waking up at 5 a.m. and doing drugs and being like, the world is so unjust, give me free stuff, like, get your act together.
00:15:22.000 Before you start to go tell other people to give up their liberty, freedom, and their stuff.
00:15:26.000 Okay?
00:15:27.000 So I wanna be very clear positive thinking has a bad rap in some way.
00:15:33.000 I think we should be accurate thinkers, but you should also understand that your attitude is 100% in your control.
00:15:42.000 100%.
00:15:43.000 The unhappy make the world worse.
00:15:46.000 The person who wrote that book is making the world worse.
00:15:49.000 But if you're a secular leftist, what do you have to be happy about?
00:15:54.000 Everything the left focuses on is a crisis that is unhappy.
00:15:59.000 The world is ending from climate change.
00:16:01.000 The world is ending for systemic racism.
00:16:04.000 There is no God. 1.00
00:16:05.000 Our history sucks. 0.99
00:16:06.000 I would be unhappy too. 0.98
00:16:08.000 We look at it like, okay, no, there's not a climate catastrophe.
00:16:11.000 We're not systemically racist.
00:16:13.000 We're the greatest nation ever to exist.
00:16:15.000 And I'm made in the image of God who loved me enough to send his son so that I could live eternal life.
00:16:21.000 Yeah, that would bring me a lot of joy, actually.
00:16:24.000 And so, but I don't love that term positive thinking because people think of it as like delusional thinking.
00:16:32.000 Where, you know, as Tony Robbins would say, you don't go into your garden and say, there's no weeds, there's no weeds, there's no weeds.
00:16:40.000 You go into your garden and you say, here's the weed and let me pull it out so that you could live a better life and fix your thinking patterns.
00:16:47.000 And so we.
00:16:50.000 Andrew Tate said this.
00:16:51.000 I'm not an apologist for Andrew Tate, by the way.
00:16:53.000 I think he's got a lot of problems, but I think he was totally right when he said this.
00:16:56.000 All the young men are like smiling now because this is.
00:16:59.000 Yeah.
00:17:00.000 Yeah.
00:17:00.000 No, I.
00:17:03.000 I can't hear what you said.
00:17:04.000 But okay, yeah, again, I'm not an apologist of Andrew Tate, but I think he was right when he said this, which is that society in general wants you depressed and they don't want you happy.
00:17:15.000 That if you're happy and joyful, people act as if there's something wrong with you.
00:17:20.000 But if you're depressed and angry or bitter, they're like everything's right with you.
00:17:25.000 That's weird.
00:17:27.000 And totally understanding that depression is a real thing and that people can struggle with it and anxiety is a real thing, totally get it.
00:17:34.000 Happy to give you resources on that.
00:17:36.000 However, your attitude is still a choice, and how you act is a choice every single day.
00:17:42.000 Only you are to blame for whether you are happy or unhappy today.
00:17:48.000 That is completely on you, not on systemic racism, colonialism, misogyny, homophobia, or somebody calling you a bad name.
00:17:54.000 Next question.
00:17:56.000 Hey, Charlie.
00:17:57.000 Just want to start off by saying, really big fan, but I'm trying to do a co event with the student ministry I'm in, and the president is very adamant about not combining faith in politics.
00:18:07.000 He is conservative, but he, you know, he.
00:18:09.000 Separation of church and state.
00:18:10.000 He doesn't want to make it political, basically.
00:18:13.000 So, like, what are some ideas that I can propose to him to where we can do a co event?
00:18:18.000 Yeah, I mean, you should ask him where does it say separation of church and state in the Constitution?
00:18:23.000 And that would make him fluster a little bit.
00:18:29.000 I'm pretty outspoken on this topic, as you can imagine.
00:18:33.000 Your friend is wrong.
00:18:34.000 What he's basically saying is he doesn't want to offend people.
00:18:37.000 Well, look, the gospel is offensive.
00:18:39.000 Okay, by definition.
00:18:42.000 And look, what is politics?
00:18:46.000 Politics is how we decide who gets power.
00:18:49.000 The Bible has a lot to say about that.
00:18:52.000 The Bible is largely a political document.
00:18:54.000 What is true?
00:18:55.000 What is good?
00:18:55.000 Should we protect children?
00:18:56.000 Who gets power?
00:18:57.000 Should it be separate?
00:18:58.000 The founding fathers quoted Deuteronomy more than any other book, religious or secular, in the formation of our government.
00:19:05.000 And so I understand campus ministry.
00:19:07.000 They're like, oh, we just want to focus on the gospel. 0.98
00:19:10.000 You are a weak person. 0.96
00:19:12.000 Good luck with your nine people. 0.98
00:19:13.000 How many campus ministries can get 6,000 people to show up to an event like we can this weekend?
00:19:18.000 They can't.
00:19:19.000 They're withering away.
00:19:20.000 They're dying.
00:19:20.000 Their membership is going down.
00:19:22.000 Why? 0.98
00:19:23.000 Because they're creasally irrelevant, where they're like, we just want to love everyone. 0.98
00:19:26.000 Meanwhile, this trans zealotry is spreading the country, and they're like, well, we don't take stances on that stuff. 0.98
00:19:33.000 Well, you're going to be irrelevant, and your number is going to go down. 0.99
00:19:35.000 If you stand for truth, people will come.
00:19:39.000 If you stand for truth, people will come.
00:19:42.000 Happy to talk more privately with you, though.
00:19:44.000 Thank you.
00:19:44.000 On your left?
00:19:45.000 Yeah.
00:19:46.000 Hi, my name is Jude Carlson, unfortunately not related to the notorious Tucker Carlson, but I come from a pretty conservative area.
00:19:56.000 But my fellow high schoolers don't exactly have motivation for politics or getting involved at all.
00:20:03.000 So, as having the privilege of being the president of the first chapter at my high school, what would you recommend me do to have the largest impact that I can and encourage my peers to be leaders while simultaneously leading them to Christ?
00:20:19.000 This is a question I get from people of all ages, which is someone who cares asking me, why do other people not care?
00:20:29.000 It's just the way that God made us.
00:20:31.000 A small percentage of the population will care while most people sit idly by and do nothing.
00:20:37.000 It's just the way it is.
00:20:39.000 So, the trick and the challenge of the leader is how do we get those who usually won't care to care?
00:20:47.000 That's the challenge in front of all of you.
00:20:50.000 And the number one way is you yourself have to be joyful, enthusiastic, energetic, and you have to be a leader that is worth following.
00:21:00.000 If you are those things, then you have a chance to bring other people into those ranks, right?
00:21:04.000 But again, the majority of the population is just going to be indifferent.
00:21:10.000 Eh, whatever.
00:21:11.000 How many times do you guys hear that when you do this?
00:21:13.000 Ah, whatever.
00:21:14.000 I don't care.
00:21:15.000 Whatever.
00:21:16.000 I don't care.
00:21:18.000 You're going to have to just break through that, pierce that, try to make it relative, try to make it relevant, I should say, try to make it engaging, informational.
00:21:26.000 But more than anything else, people follow people.
00:21:31.000 And so, if you are a leader worth following, who's interesting, who studies, who understands their stuff, that's a great way to pierce through a lot of the cynicism and a lot of the lack of engagement.
00:21:42.000 God bless you, men.
00:21:43.000 Thank you for leading our chapter two.
00:21:47.000 Here's what your financial advisor will not tell you by the time the news tells you to buy gold, it's already too late.
00:21:54.000 You're waiting.
00:21:55.000 I get it.
00:21:55.000 Everybody's waiting, waiting to see if the ceasefire holds, waiting to see if the Strait of Hormuz reopens, waiting to see what happens next.
00:22:03.000 Gold isn't waiting for you.
00:22:05.000 It moves on fear, on instability, on the unknown, and it moves faster than you can react.
00:22:10.000 So, while you're waiting for certainty, the rest of the world is planning for what comes next.
00:22:13.000 You can wait or you can prepare, but you can't do both.
00:22:16.000 Remember, the best time to put on a seatbelt is before the accident, not after.
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00:23:14.000 Hey, Charlie, my name is John Walker.
00:23:16.000 I'm the chapter president of our Grand Canyon University chapter.
00:23:19.000 Yeah, nice to see you again.
00:23:22.000 So, I had a question similar to the question that was asked over here, but with GCU being like a Christian campus, pretty conservative campus, there are a lot of students that I talk to, especially friends of mine, that are like, hey, I respect what you're doing.
00:23:38.000 I don't really care about politics.
00:23:40.000 All I care about is the gospel.
00:23:42.000 You know, Jesus is going to win in the end, so why should I care about America?
00:23:45.000 I hear that same thing from a lot of churches, too. 0.79
00:23:48.000 So, how do you suggest I go about going into these friend circles, going into these churches, and be like, hey, you should care about America because we know Jesus is going to come back and those believers are going to be saved, but why should we care in the moment now?
00:24:03.000 Great question.
00:24:04.000 First and foremost, does the Bible ever instruct us to care about politics?
00:24:07.000 Yes.
00:24:07.000 Jeremiah 29 7, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
00:24:13.000 Daniel, Esther, Mordecai, Jeremiah, Nehemiah. 0.61
00:24:16.000 I could go through the list.
00:24:17.000 Joseph.
00:24:18.000 Joseph, one of my favorite characters of the Bible.
00:24:20.000 Who.
00:24:20.000 Bible trivia, only two Old Testament characters called righteous or who?
00:24:23.000 Anybody?
00:24:25.000 Noah, who said that? 0.61
00:24:26.000 Good for you.
00:24:26.000 And?
00:24:28.000 No, Abraham was never called righteous.
00:24:31.000 No, it's Noah and Joseph.
00:24:33.000 Abraham was called good, but he's not called righteous.
00:24:35.000 But close though. 1.00
00:24:36.000 Yes, whoever said Noah, that's really good for you.
00:24:39.000 People usually, I've been to churches and they don't get that question right.
00:24:43.000 So Joseph called a righteous man.
00:24:45.000 He was also called handsome.
00:24:46.000 That's a separate issue.
00:24:47.000 Joseph was what?
00:24:48.000 What was Joseph?
00:24:49.000 Let's Bible trivia.
00:24:50.000 How could you describe Joseph?
00:24:51.000 Yes, he was a young son, discarded all this.
00:24:53.000 What was his role in Egypt?
00:24:54.000 Anybody?
00:24:56.000 Second most powerful, but what he was a what?
00:24:59.000 He was, what'd you say?
00:25:00.000 The accountant.
00:25:01.000 Accountant, yes, but he was a counselor to the king, right?
00:25:06.000 God's vision for his people is to be counselors to the king, to correct error into right, to correct lies into truth, right?
00:25:15.000 So should we delete, should we take scissors and remove Joseph, Daniel, Mordecai, Esther, Nehemiah, and Jeremiah?
00:25:21.000 No, we should look to Daniel.
00:25:22.000 What did Daniel do when a tyrannical government told him to?
00:25:27.000 Stop praying.
00:25:28.000 What did Daniel do? 0.99
00:25:30.000 Kept praying and he opened up the window and he said, Screw you. 0.96
00:25:34.000 I'm going to keep on worshiping Hashem, Adonai, Jehovah, Elohim. 0.98
00:25:39.000 I am not going to listen to your tyrannical order.
00:25:41.000 We talk about Daniel in the lion's den, but we forget how he got in the lion's den.
00:25:46.000 He got in the lion's den because he did not put up with tyrannical government.
00:25:51.000 What does it say in Acts?
00:25:53.000 It says that we will not obey man, but we will obey God.
00:25:57.000 I could go on and on and on and on. 0.99
00:25:59.000 This is a luxury of modern Christians that are comfortable and cowards. 1.00
00:26:03.000 You shouldn't say that, but I'm being honest, okay? 0.99
00:26:06.000 These are modern Christians that have it so good they don't understand that Christianity usually ends up in the gulag and the death camp and persecution.
00:26:14.000 If we do not stand and fight for liberty, which is God's idea, not man's idea, we will be having theological disputes from prison and we're all going to be running prison ministries.
00:26:27.000 But if we stand for self government and the promise the founders handed down to us, There's a chance that we can continue to fight for righteousness and goodness.
00:26:36.000 And think about how selfish it is, though.
00:26:38.000 Oh, Jesus is coming.
00:26:39.000 I don't need to go fight for other people.
00:26:40.000 What were the two things that Jesus said were the most important teachings of the Old Testament?
00:26:44.000 Leviticus 19, which is?
00:26:46.000 Love your neighbor as yourself.
00:26:47.000 You guys do that.
00:26:48.000 Yeah, this is an impressive group.
00:26:49.000 And number two, Deuteronomy 20, which is?
00:26:52.000 Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.
00:26:54.000 Good.
00:26:55.000 So, those two things.
00:26:56.000 How can you love your neighbor as yourself if you live under a tyrannical government?
00:27:02.000 I love, exactly.
00:27:04.000 I love my neighbor so much, I want them to live in a free society.
00:27:07.000 That's what you should tell your friends.
00:27:09.000 That is the loving thing to do to give someone a free society.
00:27:15.000 It is the unloving thing.
00:27:17.000 It is against Leviticus 19.
00:27:19.000 It is against what Jesus told us is the greatest thing to have them live in a Stalinistic, Mao type government.
00:27:26.000 So take whatever you want, maybe lower the temperature a little bit, and then park it and say, maybe we should think about this.
00:27:33.000 And finally, Liberty is to be able to do what you ought to do.
00:27:37.000 We have this short guess where we live in a free society.
00:27:41.000 Does God want you to be free?
00:27:43.000 Yes.
00:27:45.000 God delivered his chosen people from bondage, the first chapter of Exodus, and then rose a king over Egypt who did not know Joseph. 0.74
00:27:57.000 Forgets the memory of the history before them, terrorized, who are these Jews? 0.96
00:28:01.000 Imprisoned them, enslaved them, they multiplied like cockroaches. 0.96
00:28:05.000 And God went to great lengths to deliver his people from bondage, from tyranny, into freedom.
00:28:13.000 But then what ends up happening?
00:28:15.000 Anybody read the book of Numbers?
00:28:17.000 Numbers 11.
00:28:19.000 They start complaining and they complain and they complain and they complain and they complain.
00:28:26.000 Numbers 11, God's chosen people.
00:28:28.000 Ten plagues, parting of the Red Sea, ten commandments.
00:28:32.000 Numbers 11, what was their complaint?
00:28:34.000 Hey, God, we want to go back to Egypt because we had, quote, cucumbers in Egypt.
00:28:41.000 You can look it up, fact check me.
00:28:42.000 English Standard Version, Numbers 11.
00:28:44.000 They've said to God, We miss Egypt because we had meat.
00:28:48.000 Leeks and cucumbers and melons in Egypt.
00:28:51.000 That's a good trivia question for your friends, right?
00:28:54.000 Name me a vegetable that is in the book of Numbers.
00:28:57.000 Many people don't know it's cucumbers, it's like hilarious.
00:29:00.000 What were they saying?
00:29:01.000 I prefer to go be a slave than to be in the desert, even though quail is blown off course and manna comes from heaven.
00:29:08.000 It is in our soul and our broken spirit to want to be taken care of and live under tyranny.
00:29:14.000 It takes effort of you to want to live free.
00:29:19.000 To want to remind people that liberty and freedom is a value, which is God's plan for his people.
00:29:25.000 Our broken nature wants us to go live under a dictator.
00:29:28.000 That is the spiritual tension in front of us right now.
00:29:31.000 Next question.
00:29:31.000 To your right.
00:29:33.000 Holy based.
00:29:34.000 Let's go.
00:29:35.000 Now, I just want to say for all Catholics and curious, we will be doing a rosary tonight.
00:29:39.000 We're trying to get a group together.
00:29:40.000 I have a lot of respect for Catholics.
00:29:41.000 God bless you. 1.00
00:29:42.000 Freaking go.
00:29:42.000 But anyway, please join.
00:29:45.000 We'd love for everyone to come.
00:29:46.000 But so, what I want to know is so I would argue that turning Turning Point's rhetoric has gotten a lot better since the Culture War tour back in 2019.
00:29:55.000 And a lot of the arguments that have gone on within my chapter have been about what is Turning Point's real goal.
00:30:01.000 You know, people will tell me, at least, they'll say, oh, this is all about economics, Gus.
00:30:05.000 You can't focus on the social issues.
00:30:06.000 And obviously, I think this discussion is proving that wrong right now.
00:30:10.000 But I kind of want to, just because the rhetoric has shifted so much over the last few years, I want to know what is like Turning Point's definitive stance on social issues, both political and religious, and also how does that go into factoring in who.
00:30:24.000 Can work at Turning Point USA?
00:30:25.000 Like, what is the standard for what someone should be practicing in their personal life?
00:30:29.000 Well, I think that's a great question.
00:30:30.000 And so, first, I'll tell you what I believe, right?
00:30:32.000 I think it's rather well documented.
00:30:33.000 I think I've just gone through it, right?
00:30:35.000 I believe in marriage as one man, one woman, right? 1.00
00:30:37.000 I don't believe in any of this trans stuff, all that crap. 1.00
00:30:40.000 And so, but as far as where Turning Point stands, the most important way that I could address that is, first and foremost, an understanding of the principles that allowed Western civilization to flourish and a commitment to the eternal natural law. 1.00
00:30:54.000 We go back to the Declaration and the Constitution.
00:30:56.000 First and foremost, the laws of nature and nature's God.
00:31:00.000 How you read that and how I read that is there is a natural law and we should follow that.
00:31:04.000 So if I were to, because you could go through a million different issues, right?
00:31:07.000 And then all of a sudden you have like your mission statement ends up being 500,000 pages long.
00:31:12.000 So I made a decision.
00:31:13.000 I said, you know what?
00:31:14.000 We had this at our training.
00:31:15.000 We believe in the promises of the Declaration of the Constitution, which does cover social issues, by the way.
00:31:20.000 The Declaration, God has mentioned four times that there is a supreme judge of the world, right?
00:31:27.000 And so if you stay to just those two documents, what is Turning Point's mission?
00:31:30.000 To revive the promise of the American founding as articulated in the Declaration and the United States Constitution, aka, get our country back from these people.
00:31:41.000 Now, you might say, Charlie, you're ramping up the intensity.
00:31:45.000 What has changed?
00:31:46.000 I got married and had a daughter.
00:31:47.000 That's what's changed.
00:31:48.000 You want to get radicalized? 0.93
00:31:49.000 Get married.
00:31:51.000 With that being said, some of our best activists, some of our hardest fighters in the trenches are people with other lifestyles than that.
00:31:59.000 You know what?
00:32:00.000 I think the world of them.
00:32:01.000 And I'm happy to fight for liberty amongst people, even if I see differently on certain things that they might do in their personal life.
00:32:08.000 So, to answer that final part of your question.
00:32:09.000 Thank you.
00:32:10.000 Next question.
00:32:13.000 Here's what your financial advisor will not tell you.
00:32:16.000 By the time the news tells you to buy gold, it's already too late.
00:32:19.000 You're waiting.
00:32:20.000 I get it.
00:32:21.000 Everybody's waiting.
00:32:22.000 Waiting to see if the ceasefire holds, waiting to see if the Strait of Hormuz reopens, waiting to see what happens next.
00:32:27.000 But gold isn't waiting for you.
00:32:30.000 It moves on fear, on instability, on the unknown, and it moves faster than you can react.
00:32:35.000 So while you're waiting for certainty, the rest of the world is planning for what comes next.
00:32:39.000 You can wait or you can prepare, but you can't do both.
00:32:41.000 Remember, the best time to put on a seatbelt is before the accident, not after.
00:32:46.000 If you're ready to act, reach out to my friends at Noble Gold Investments.
00:32:49.000 They help Americans protect their savings with physical gold and silver shipped to your door or held in a tax advantaged IRA.
00:32:56.000 No taxes, no penalties to roll over a 401k or existing IRA.
00:33:00.000 Give them a call today.
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00:33:06.000 They're going to hook you up.
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00:33:40.000 Yep.
00:33:41.000 Hi.
00:33:41.000 My name's Ann.
00:33:42.000 I go to Hillsdale College.
00:33:44.000 Greatest college in America.
00:33:45.000 It's a great place.
00:33:46.000 Thank you.
00:33:47.000 Okay.
00:33:48.000 So.
00:33:50.000 First of all, I love the referencing to the obscure biblical passages.
00:33:53.000 My favorite one is the talking donkey in numbers.
00:33:55.000 Yep, that's a really good one.
00:33:57.000 Yep, that is really good.
00:33:58.000 The lesser known one.
00:33:59.000 Okay, so I have been canvassing because there is an election this November in Ohio for something called reproductive health, and it's very vague and nonspecific.
00:34:09.000 But I was talking to somebody about how it is basically a bill that would allow children to get sex changes without telling their parents, and it would aid the people that helped them to do that.
00:34:22.000 And I was having a wonderful conversation with somebody.
00:34:24.000 He seemed like he really agreed with me.
00:34:26.000 And also, he was a trans man, a man who was turning into a woman.
00:34:30.000 But then, after he finished talking to me, he walked away and he told somebody that I initiated a conversation with him and that I was debating and arguing with him.
00:34:41.000 So, my question for you is how do you respond when somebody is lying about what you've told them?
00:34:48.000 Because I didn't initiate a conversation, he started a conversation with me.
00:34:51.000 Yeah, I mean, look.
00:34:53.000 You just gotta be really careful. 0.99
00:34:54.000 Anytime you're dealing with activism or engagement with a trans group, they have deep seated mental problems, and you gotta be very careful, okay? 0.95
00:34:59.000 It's not a joke. 0.93
00:35:00.000 I'm not trivializing it.
00:35:01.000 You gotta be really careful, okay?
00:35:04.000 These people are not chemically balanced.
00:35:06.000 They're on a cocktail of drugs.
00:35:08.000 I hope they get care compassionately, but you just gotta be careful, right?
00:35:12.000 And so I can't give you personal advice on that, except for the fact that I'm sorry that you were lied about.
00:35:17.000 I'm glad you're doing that kind of activism.
00:35:20.000 And if, look, if we cannot have a clear societal consensus, That male and female, period, like you don't get to go after kids, especially in that regard, then, like, I don't even know what to tell you, right?
00:35:36.000 But I'm happy to dialogue with you more privately.
00:35:39.000 But I will say, I love that you go to Hillsdale, and I love that you're an activist simultaneously.
00:35:43.000 And tell Dr. Arn, I say hi, okay?
00:35:45.000 Thank you.
00:35:46.000 Yes, where are we at?
00:35:48.000 Here?
00:35:48.000 How are you doing?
00:35:49.000 Charlie.
00:35:50.000 So, as I said earlier, I'm from Suffolk University.
00:35:52.000 Oh, yeah.
00:35:53.000 In Boston.
00:35:53.000 You're going to transition so you can get on the website?
00:35:56.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:35:58.000 So, actually, my first exposure to Turning Point, there was one night you did a radio show with Dan Ray from WBZ.
00:36:06.000 That was like my first.
00:36:06.000 Oh, no way.
00:36:07.000 That's so cool.
00:36:09.000 But so I'm studying broadcast journalism because I'd like to do something like what Dan Ray does one day.
00:36:15.000 And at my college, I write for my college paper, and I'm required to put my pronouns in my bio on my staff page.
00:36:24.000 And I really like the Tucker Carlson approach to his whole approach like, yeah, there's always going to be people that do that, but I'm that one guy that just doesn't want to do that.
00:36:33.000 I'm in one of the bluest cities in the country.
00:36:35.000 What's your advice?
00:36:37.000 If you stand for truth in that, your life's not going to be easy.
00:36:40.000 Right? 0.92
00:36:40.000 So you just have to know that it's going to be a nonstop terror campaign where they're going to be like, why don't you do the pronoun? 0.92
00:36:46.000 Why don't you do the pronoun?
00:36:46.000 Why don't you do the pronoun?
00:36:48.000 Matt Walsh has the best progression on this, right?
00:36:50.000 It starts with mandatory tolerance, then acceptance, then celebration, then participation, right?
00:36:57.000 And so think about it.
00:36:58.000 First, you must accept the trans thing, tolerate it, then you must accept it, then you must celebrate it, and now you have to participate it by the administration of pronouns. 0.53
00:37:07.000 Like, well, that's weird.
00:37:08.000 I thought it was all just about tolerance.
00:37:10.000 So, I don't know if I want to give you advice or not, but I mean this seriously.
00:37:15.000 You might want to consider just eventually moving, right?
00:37:17.000 Like, if you have a chance to get out of the Soviet Union, would you?
00:37:22.000 Right?
00:37:23.000 Because you live in Massachusetts, man.
00:37:25.000 Like, that's what you said?
00:37:27.000 Yeah, it's not good. 1.00
00:37:29.000 Like, that, especially on the gender stuff, it is completely out of control. 0.96
00:37:34.000 Especially in Boston, which is the most academic clustered town in the country. 0.65
00:37:39.000 Yeah, it really is.
00:37:40.000 Thank you, man.
00:37:41.000 Appreciate it.
00:37:41.000 This will be the last question on the right.
00:37:43.000 Okay.
00:37:45.000 Hello, Mr. Kirk.
00:37:46.000 My name is Abby Ball Hagen, and I am one of the co presidents at Pepperdine University.
00:37:50.000 Pepperdine, yeah.
00:37:52.000 You answered my question last time about becoming a surgeon and also a mom at YWLS.
00:37:56.000 Oh, that went a little viral.
00:37:58.000 It did.
00:37:59.000 But thank you for reposting on your page.
00:38:01.000 It was super cool.
00:38:02.000 My family sent it to me, and they were like, whoa.
00:38:04.000 But anyway, I have a bit of a different question.
00:38:06.000 Sure.
00:38:07.000 So at Pepperdine, there's a really big organization that's called the Global Justice Institute, and they're currently serving in Rwanda and Uganda.
00:38:15.000 Breaking people out of prison for crimes that they actually did not commit.
00:38:19.000 However, I joined as an ambassador to only advocate for Palmyra negotiations in foreign countries because that's something that I'm actually passionate about.
00:38:30.000 I'm not necessarily passionate about the humanitarian acts that don't really have anything to do with our country.
00:38:34.000 Yeah.
00:38:35.000 So, how, and there are many organizations at Pepperdine that are kind of conservative and also kind of liberal just because they have to swing both ways to have both sides of Christianity.
00:38:46.000 Be serviced like some of the students were saying.
00:38:50.000 So, how should we as conservative students support these organizations?
00:38:56.000 Should we go all in and try to really maximize that conservative side or just not at all because they're not fully conservative?
00:39:03.000 Yeah, I mean, it depends.
00:39:04.000 I have nothing against helping people in Uganda or Rwanda.
00:39:10.000 I do, how do I say this gently?
00:39:13.000 There's a lot of good people that do that work, but I also think it's driven a lot by upper middle class white guilt in this country.
00:39:20.000 Where they refuse to actually recognize our own country is quickly becoming a third world country.
00:39:24.000 Like, get on a highway, any highway, and drive through the interior of the United States.
00:39:28.000 We have 110,000 people drug overdosing every single year in this country.
00:39:32.000 We have thousands of people being sex trafficked literally through our country every single day.
00:39:36.000 We're like, oh, I need to go to Rwanda or Uganda.
00:39:39.000 Like, no, okay, good on you.
00:39:42.000 But do you focus at all on your own country?
00:39:45.000 Jeremiah 29 7 demand the welfare of the land of which you are in, not demand the welfare of a foreign off land.
00:39:55.000 I'm not against it.
00:39:56.000 I'm sure they mean well.
00:39:57.000 But I'm with you. 1.00
00:39:58.000 Like, can we fix our own country before we try to solve the ailments of the third world? 1.00
00:40:03.000 I just, I don't know. 1.00
00:40:06.000 So, how do you, I would involve, the Palmia thing is really important.
00:40:09.000 The prisoners of war are missing in action.
00:40:11.000 I'm glad you're doing that.
00:40:12.000 So, that's where my own sentiment is at.
00:40:14.000 I'm not against, you know, international third world charity, but I feel as if it's been an overemphasis of Christian groups the last 20 or 30 years, and there's kind of an indifference with the suffering that's happening in our own country.
00:40:27.000 Thank you.
00:40:28.000 Appreciate it.
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