The Charlie Kirk Show - From the Archives: Charlie On Why Churches Must Engage the Culture

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

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00:01:09.000 I really want to focus on the five things I learned in the 15 days to slow the spread, which has been a whole year.

00:01:15.000 And it's been very interesting.

00:01:17.000 But one thing I've heard a lot of pastors say that don't want to get involved is they say, well, it's separation of church and state.

00:01:25.000 We don't do politics around here.

00:01:27.000 First of all, that's not biblical.

00:01:30.000 It's not constitutional.

00:01:32.000 It's not moral.

00:01:33.000 But let's take their unbiblical, unconstitutional, immoral phrase at face value.

00:01:39.000 Let's just pretend they're right for a minute.

00:01:42.000 Why don't we keep the state out of the church then?

00:01:46.000 Why don't we say, hold on, the government has no business what happens in here?

00:01:52.000 Because under their own belief, they've always been worried about the church taking over the state.

00:01:56.000 When reality, the threat has always been the state taking over the church.

00:02:01.000 And so that's what I want to focus on here.

00:02:04.000 And just so everyone has a little bit of a baseline, I am an evangelical Christian, a Bible-believing Christian, is the most important thing in my life.

00:02:13.000 For those people that are here that have never been in a church before, welcome.

00:02:17.000 And I encourage all of you, and throughout this speech, I'm going to hopefully make a case that you need Jesus in your life.

00:02:25.000 There's a God who made you in his image, and he wants to get to know you, and he wants to get in a relationship with you.

00:02:32.000 And why I do what I do at turning point, why I speak at churches, is of course to spread the gospel.

00:02:40.000 But I believe that's the most important thing you can do.

00:02:43.000 But if you don't have the freedom to spread the gospel, we're all going to be sharing the gospel from prison.

00:02:47.000 And I am not exaggerating.

00:02:50.000 And it's happened time and time again.

00:02:51.000 That pattern replicates itself.

00:02:53.000 And so the gospel in four words is Jesus took my place.

00:02:56.000 In three words, it's him for me.

00:02:58.000 In two words, it's substitutionary atonement.

00:03:00.000 One word, grace.

00:03:02.000 Justice, mercy, grace.

00:03:04.000 Justice, you get what you deserve.

00:03:04.000 What's the difference?

00:03:06.000 Mercy, you get less of what you deserve.

00:03:07.000 Grace, someone serves the punishment for what you deserve so you can live free.

00:03:12.000 That's what we believe.

00:03:13.000 That's what gets us into action every single day.

00:03:17.000 So one of the things I'm called to do is to try to activate churches and Christians to stand up in this moment.

00:03:25.000 It's a Kairos moment.

00:03:26.000 It's a Greek word for action point.

00:03:28.000 It's a biblical word.

00:03:31.000 So what are five things I learned in the last year of the 15 days to slow the spread?

00:03:37.000 First of all, number one, science, reason are dying if not dead.

00:03:44.000 One of the most pathological things we have seen in the last year is people say trust the science.

00:03:51.000 And in reality, they have no business whatsoever ever caring about the science.

00:03:56.000 I'll prove it to you.

00:03:58.000 Science, I believe, the more we explore the scientific world, the more it actually proves the word of God.

00:04:04.000 Thomas Aquinas was the first person that actually wrote about this.

00:04:07.000 For example, a spherical earth, quarantining the sick, not the healthy, are all biblical ideas.

00:04:15.000 You could find that in Leviticus.

00:04:17.000 The idea of life beginning at conception.

00:04:20.000 All of these things are in the Bible thousands of years ago before the scientific discoveries were ever done.

00:04:26.000 The more we learn the scientific realm, the more we realize that belief in the world around us without an intelligent creator takes far more faith in that than faith in believing that there was actually an intelligent creator that created you in his image.

00:04:41.000 I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

00:04:45.000 So science and reason trust the science, they say.

00:04:49.000 They never believe that.

00:04:51.000 What they're really saying is trust the scientists that we put on television that are wrong about everything.

00:04:57.000 Dr. Fauci should be fired immediately.

00:05:01.000 It's true.

00:05:09.000 I'm not going to get into his personal character.

00:05:11.000 I don't know the man, but he has no wisdom.

00:05:13.000 Zero.

00:05:14.000 This is one of the greatest disservices that we have ever done to young people.

00:05:21.000 We fill them with convenient facts that fit a narrative, yet there's no wisdom.

00:05:27.000 Why?

00:05:28.000 Where does wisdom begin?

00:05:29.000 What does it tell us in Proverbs?

00:05:31.000 The fear of the Lord, then you get wisdom.

00:05:32.000 There's no God in our schools, there's no wisdom.

00:05:35.000 And Dr. Fauci is a perfect representation of it.

00:05:38.000 There's no wisdom in that man.

00:05:39.000 Zero.

00:05:40.000 Just power, fear-mongering, and what I call safetyism.

00:05:45.000 So let me prove it to you.

00:05:47.000 Trust the science, they say.

00:05:50.000 Okay.

00:05:51.000 If you've already had the Chinese coronavirus, why do you have to get vaccinated?

00:05:57.000 It's a simple question.

00:05:58.000 I have the antibodies.

00:06:00.000 They say, first they say masks don't work.

00:06:03.000 Then they say wear a mask when you shower.

00:06:05.000 Then they say wear two masks.

00:06:07.000 And by the way, I am mask agnostic.

00:06:09.000 I don't mean if you're wearing, no, I really am.

00:06:11.000 No, I mean this non-sarcastically.

00:06:13.000 And there's people here wearing masks and there's people not wearing masks.

00:06:17.000 And I mean this, we should never insult people that wear masks.

00:06:19.000 I say that non-sarcastically because we believe in liberty.

00:06:22.000 If you believe they work, then wear a mask.

00:06:24.000 If you don't believe they work, then don't wear a mask.

00:06:26.000 It's really not that hard.

00:06:28.000 It's not hard.

00:06:32.000 What I came up against is the mask mandates that you're going to go into a private place of worship or enterprise and say, I'm going to force you to do something which is so incredibly philosophically ironic for the people that say my body my choice.

00:06:52.000 Reason and revelation, the mixture of both built Western civilization.

00:06:58.000 Reason is our capacity to solve problems in a chaotic natural world.

00:07:04.000 Math.

00:07:06.000 Yes, science.

00:07:07.000 What is the scientific method?

00:07:08.000 Are we using it?

00:07:10.000 We're using the opposite.

00:07:12.000 We're using an unchallenged, unquestioned premise at all costs.

00:07:19.000 And so I understand the initial, the first two weeks where we slowed down and we said, we don't know what we're dealing with here.

00:07:26.000 What is this virus?

00:07:28.000 What are the mortality rates, the infectious rates?

00:07:30.000 Who's most at risk?

00:07:32.000 But when two weeks became a month and it became two months and we realized who is at risk, what we needed to do to protect those people, provide services for those people, every school in the country should have opened instantaneously.

00:07:46.000 And so what ended up happening under the guise of, well, trust the science.

00:07:52.000 You see, that's a conversation ender because no one ever wants to be on the wrong side of science.

00:07:58.000 But science is always about constant and persistent inquiry, always.

00:08:03.000 So Galileo, again, our children don't learn any of this stuff.

00:08:07.000 They learn about like Angela Davis or Nicole Hannah Jones or Frank Marshall Davis.

00:08:12.000 Galileo, who challenged the predominant view of the gravitational how the Earth or the Sun interact.

00:08:22.000 Are we the center of the universe or is the sun the center of our galaxy?

00:08:25.000 And he challenged it.

00:08:26.000 It's a heliocentric theory.

00:08:28.000 And he was actually imprisoned for it.

00:08:30.000 And the idea of challenging something that is dogma is always the right thing to do.

00:08:38.000 Now, what's amazing is the more you challenge the truth of the Bible, the more it actually proves itself to be true. 0.96

00:08:44.000 We should never be afraid of inquiry of the Bible.

00:08:47.000 I tell people all the time, go find me a cheerful, successful, happy person that is not living consistent with the tone and tenor of the Bible.

00:08:56.000 They might not be saved, but the truths of the Bible are always true.

00:08:59.000 That there is a God that created you in his image and he wants to get back in a relationship with you and he sent an intermediary for you to make that possible so that you might have eternal life because we are broken and you're not going to get there on your own.

00:09:14.000 You know, we spend a lot of time on this show talking about culture, about why strong families matter, why values matter, why faith matters.

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00:09:34.000 And in today's dating culture, that's not always easy.

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00:10:31.000 And so, instead, the idea of challenging what is said on TV from Fauci or from our public health officials, and I say this completely honestly, I don't remember your governor's name because she's not worthy of remembering her name.

00:10:47.000 I mean that.

00:10:48.000 No, it's actually true.

00:10:53.000 It's true.

00:10:58.000 So, if you study the Bible, names mean a lot.

00:11:02.000 Simon Peter Ruck, right?

00:11:04.000 One who struggles with God.

00:11:06.000 I don't care about her name because she has not done anything wise or moral for me to remember it.

00:11:11.000 So the tyrant who runs your state, that's how she will be referred to for the next couple days. 1.00

00:11:17.000 And I hope she's watching and I hope her public health office is watching.

00:11:21.000 I hope they're all watching.

00:11:22.000 Every one of them.

00:11:27.000 Steve is loving all this, by the way.

00:11:28.000 could just tell.

00:11:34.000 She will have to answer for what she did for the children of this state by keeping schools closed.

00:11:41.000 She will have to answer for the drug overdoses. 0.93

00:11:44.000 She will have to answer for the suicide rate increases. 0.97

00:11:48.000 She will have to answer for the 40% of small businesses that will never open again. 0.77

00:11:53.000 She will have to answer for that.

00:11:55.000 And her whole team of people that say trust the science.

00:11:58.000 Now, here's how you know that they actually don't believe what they are saying because they constantly violate their own ordinance.

00:12:09.000 They eat at French laundry with all of their friends like Gavin Newsom.

00:12:14.000 He keeps restaurants closed and then he dines amongst his other friends.

00:12:18.000 If they actually believed in the mandates they were putting forward, they would live by them.

00:12:23.000 This goes to number two, and I have to stay on schedule here because usually around like 40 minutes, I just start to get warmed up.

00:12:29.000 So you got to work within the framework here.

00:12:31.000 Okay.

00:12:32.000 Number two.

00:12:35.000 The difference between states matters more than I ever realized.

00:12:41.000 And I come here to New Mexico and you guys are a victim of this.

00:12:50.000 And I don't like saying people are victims.

00:12:53.000 It's actually against one of my main messages.

00:12:57.000 But it's unmistakable that you have been abused by your governor and your government in this state.

00:13:03.000 Truly.

00:13:07.000 Other states like Florida, with the second oldest population in the country, have lower hospitalization rates, virus death rates, right?

00:13:18.000 Rates are more important than total macro number.

00:13:21.000 I was arguing with someone on the left and they said, well, Florida has more deaths than New Mexico.

00:13:27.000 And I said, well, yeah, because they have 10 times the population.

00:13:30.000 It's a little bit of a, again, wisdom.

00:13:35.000 It's not exactly taught all the time.

00:13:36.000 So.

00:13:40.000 And this state has failed the test.

00:13:44.000 It has.

00:13:45.000 You're seeing increases in crime, carjackings, violent crime, teenage issues, the likes of which that will take a generation to solve.

00:13:56.000 Where other states have decided the New Mexico, California, New York, Illinois model, they remain shuttered.

00:14:02.000 What about states that are open?

00:14:04.000 Florida is a great example.

00:14:05.000 South Dakota is another example.

00:14:06.000 Texas, opening no masks, no social distancing, no orders.

00:14:16.000 And I know this hurts in New Mexico, but let me tell you how it could be worse.

00:14:23.000 Imagine the whole country was New Mexico.

00:14:26.000 No, I know this is a very important point.

00:14:28.000 The states created the federal government.

00:14:30.000 The federal government did not create the states.

00:14:32.000 We are a federation of states that give up our sovereignty to a federated government.

00:14:37.000 The German model, the Belgian model, the French model, the Italian model.

00:14:41.000 It doesn't work that way.

00:14:42.000 When an order comes from the centralized government, everyone follows it.

00:14:45.000 The provinces have no say whatsoever.

00:14:48.000 So liberal justice Louis Brandeis talked about the laboratories of democracy, the differences between states.

00:14:55.000 And so now hopefully this is a great teaching lesson to a lot of your friends here in New Mexico, the fact that you have not had a Republican legislature in 90 years, I think since you officially became a state, that elections have consequences.

00:15:09.000 That you pay all this in property taxes, you pay all this in sales tax for shuttered schools, declining education rates.

00:15:15.000 Meanwhile, your neighboring states have open schools and open businesses and lower virus death rates.

00:15:22.000 And I would hope this is an awakening moment for the people in New Mexico.

00:15:25.000 I hope this is a moment where we say, we're not going to take this any longer.

00:15:29.000 And I want to actually, I want to build on that point, which is people have said that Steve and your church is in violation to the governor's orders. 0.98

00:15:41.000 In fact, one of the other pastors here who runs a Calvary Chapel, he's a complete fool, I must say. 0.99

00:15:46.000 He really is. 1.00

00:15:47.000 No, he's a total fool. 1.00

00:15:48.000 And I read what he wrote, and he has no wisdom because he attacked your pastor for opening. 1.00

00:15:54.000 And he says, how dare you violate the governor's orders?

00:15:56.000 I say, hold on a second.

00:15:57.000 The governor is violating his freedom and your freedom.

00:16:01.000 you got it all wrong.

00:16:07.000 The idea that the sovereign is somehow the government is so backwards.

00:16:13.000 It really shows, and I'll get into this in a second, that too many pastors in this country have no idea why we were founded, our foundational ideas, how exceptional this country is, how it actually is a gift from God, the greatest experiment in civil government in world history.

00:16:30.000 So to believe something like that, you must believe that the governor is in charge and you're the subject.

00:16:39.000 What makes the American model different is that the citizens are in charge and the government works for us.

00:16:45.000 It's completely different.

00:16:48.000 Therefore, and this is why the Constitution is the greatest political document ever written in the history of the world.

00:16:54.000 It says it comes from the belief that you naturally, made in God's image, have rights.

00:17:01.000 A right to consciousness, right to movement, a right to speech, a right to protection, a right to buy and own property.

00:17:08.000 And the biggest concern the founding fathers had was not first and foremost what you would do with that freedom.

00:17:15.000 No, no, the first concern they had is what would happen if someone tried to take your freedom away.

00:17:20.000 So therefore, the compact that we have in this country, the partnership, if you will, the way it was designed and a way a pastor should articulate it, is they took the teachings of the Bible, the revelations of the Enlightenment, articulated them in a document where the governor has absolutely no right to come into a private religious assembly and tell you what you have to do with your own assembly.

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00:18:52.000 Now, people say, well, what about public health?

00:18:58.000 If everything in life was about sacrificing liberty for safety, then we must have a very different conversation of what we have in our country.

00:19:09.000 I wrote a sarcastic piece that actually, unfortunately, satire is quickly becoming reality.

00:19:16.000 Dr. Seuss is banned, no men, no women, men and women's sports, Aunt Jemima, Gone with the Wind.

00:19:23.000 No, it's like things that would have been sarcasm five years ago.

00:19:27.000 I cannot tell if I'm reading the New York Times or the Youngins sometimes.

00:19:30.000 I mean that.

00:19:30.000 It's true.

00:19:32.000 And so something I wrote sarcastically that I guarantee you will be pushed by somebody is if we were serious about saving lives and liberty is not a value we care about, let's get rid of driving.

00:19:45.000 Seriously.

00:19:46.000 And though they will argue this because of the environment, because of climate change, all these things.

00:19:51.000 50,000 people die on the road every single year.

00:19:53.000 50,000 people.

00:19:55.000 But no rational or reasonable people that has actually benefited from motorized transport, the liberty of having such, would argue that the abolition of all transportation is something that a mature or wise society would do.

00:20:08.000 Instead, we'd say, well, let's figure out a safer way to transport ourselves.

00:20:13.000 Seatbelts, airbags, traffic lights, removing licenses from people that get multiple accidents.

00:20:19.000 See, that's what a mature society does. 0.82

00:20:22.000 Yet, our handling of the pandemic, or what just happened here, was the exact opposite.

00:20:29.000 It was as if at all costs we must embrace a belief of safetyism, that freedom and liberty does not matter.

00:20:36.000 And this is a very difficult thing to tell you.

00:20:40.000 Liberty comes at a price.

00:20:42.000 When you have liberty, here's the promise: people will abuse it.

00:20:47.000 There will be consequences.

00:20:49.000 There will be things you might not like.

00:20:52.000 But however, we accept all of that because the benefits far outweigh any of the costs.

00:21:00.000 The same with gun ownership.

00:21:01.000 We love the Second Amendment, right?

00:21:04.000 We make this argument all the time.

00:21:06.000 That private gun ownership, there will be people that abuse that technology.

00:21:12.000 But the benefit of owning it and having it far outweighs the potential cost.

00:21:16.000 And we have lost that altogether, which I find so amazing for all the people on the left that are constantly arguing for drug legalization and all the other things.

00:21:24.000 They say, oh, we should be allowed to do whatever we want to do whenever we want to do it, but you must wear a mask when you're inside.

00:21:30.000 Like, at some point, the Leviathan government implodes upon itself.

00:21:35.000 Okay.

00:21:36.000 I have to stay on schedule.

00:21:41.000 Over the last hundred years, who has been more successful?

00:21:46.000 American Christians or American leftists?

00:21:50.000 American leftists, and it's not even close.

00:21:53.000 The fastest growing religion in America is leftism.

00:21:57.000 It's not even close.

00:21:58.000 People say, really?

00:21:59.000 Yes.

00:22:00.000 Do you see how many churches are embracing BLM Incorporated?

00:22:04.000 You see how many Christian pastors are embracing this sort of belief?

00:22:11.000 Over the last hundred years, we are now seeing the secularization of America.

00:22:16.000 If you don't believe in God, then right and wrong is merely an opinion.

00:22:20.000 This drives atheists nuts when I say it, so I will repeat it for emphasis. 1.00

00:22:25.000 If you do not believe in God, right and wrong is merely an opinion.

00:22:32.000 And people say, well, I know what's right through life experience.

00:22:38.000 You see, this is exactly, this is a huge missed opportunity by the American church.

00:22:44.000 You ask most college kids, you go to University of New Mexico, and you ask someone there, and you say, Do you believe people naturally are basically good or basically bad?

00:22:56.000 They will say, People are basically good. 0.99

00:22:59.000 You must have gone to a college to believe something as foolish as that. 0.99

00:23:03.000 It's true. 0.99

00:23:04.000 You see, if you grow up in a wealthy, generous, benevolent society as America, where things generally work, it's easy to get desensitized to the belief that people are just naturally generous to each other.

00:23:20.000 This is the exception.

00:23:22.000 The Bible tells us this clearly.

00:23:22.000 We know this.

00:23:24.000 Original sin, distance from God.

00:23:26.000 It's who we are naturally.

00:23:29.000 And I could prove it to you.

00:23:31.000 Do you have to teach goodness to a three-year-old?

00:23:34.000 Yes.

00:23:35.000 Do you have to teach a three-year-old to lie, steal, cheat, or manipulate to get what they want?

00:23:40.000 No.

00:23:41.000 It's built into their DNA.

00:23:44.000 They figured it out.

00:23:45.000 We have whole schools and academies, repetition and discipline to teach goodness to our children.

00:23:52.000 Why?

00:23:52.000 Because creating good people is hard.

00:23:56.000 And most countries have not been able to do that.

00:23:59.000 So in the 1940s and 50s, we used to teach young people, you are the problem, and America is awesome.

00:24:09.000 Now we teach young people, you're awesome, and America's the problem.

00:24:14.000 Where now young people, students, are not told you might have to improve your life.

00:24:22.000 Instead, go destroy the country around you and that will create a better place.

00:24:26.000 No gratitude for what came before them.

00:24:28.000 But the point I really want to make here, which is the more condensed point, and I asked about the religion of leftism and Christianity.

00:24:35.000 And Christianity in America, this church aside, has grown weak, complacent, and quite honestly, complicit with some of the most sinister political movements that I could possibly put my finger on.

00:24:47.000 The church, and this is a tough realization, is far weaker than I thought.

00:24:51.000 It really is.

00:24:53.000 The church founded this country.

00:24:55.000 It's that simple.

00:24:56.000 People say, this country is not founded on Judeo-Christian principles.

00:25:01.000 Anyone who said that has no understanding whatsoever of Blackstone, of John Locke, of the writings of Thomas Jefferson, the belief of the founders, George Washington, regular church attending, God-fearing, Bible-inspired, courageous men and women, Abigail Adams, but we should be unafraid to say men without having to qualify it.

00:25:24.000 So courageous men.

00:25:25.000 I think that's an okay thing to say, right?

00:25:28.000 And so this is going to be a deciding moment for the church.

00:25:34.000 So Rick Warren, who played an impact on my life, and some pastors don't like the fact I call out these pastors by name tough.

00:25:42.000 Rick Warren, who runs a church, saddleback church, and he had a really big impact on my life on finding Jesus and the gospel, but he is failing the test currently, unbelievably.

00:25:54.000 So Rick Warren comes out, and this is so unbiblical, it's hard to even unpack in the 16 minutes I have remaining, where Rick Warren says, God does not care how you vote.

00:26:07.000 In fact, he said there's no difference between each side.

00:26:11.000 Now, I'm not here just going to say that Republicans are awesome and Democrats are awful.

00:26:14.000 I'm not going to say that.

00:26:15.000 I'll get close to it, but I'm not going to say that specifically, right?

00:26:18.000 No, but the second part of it.

00:26:20.000 The point is God cares about everything you do.

00:26:23.000 What does God not care about what you do?

00:26:25.000 God cares about what you say, who you marry, how you act, what you eat, where you travel, what work you participate in.

00:26:33.000 This kind of idea that God somehow gives a permission slip, a moral pass to any one of your actions, is completely antithetical to the idea of an omniscient, omnipotent creator that cares about everything you do.

00:26:46.000 More importantly, voting is a reflection of your values.

00:26:52.000 Voting is you getting into the public square and saying, this is what I believe, and I want to at least have a singular moment where I can reflect that.

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00:28:19.000 By the way, let's just be clear.

00:28:21.000 Voting is like the minimal that a Christian should be doing in the public square. 1.00

00:28:25.000 So some pastors like Rick Warren will come out or Andy Stanley from Georgia.

00:28:30.000 They'll come out and they'll say, well, Christians should not be involved in politics. 0.52

00:28:34.000 Who's heard this before?

00:28:36.000 This is the enemy whispering in your ear.

00:28:38.000 It is unbiblical. 0.93

00:28:39.000 Daniel, Mordecai, Esther, Jeremiah, Nehemiah, Joseph.

00:28:45.000 What are we supposed to do with God's people influencing secular government for his purpose?

00:28:50.000 What are we supposed to do about that?

00:28:52.000 Now, your pastor here had a Daniel moment and he passed.

00:28:55.000 Remember what happened in Daniel?

00:28:57.000 He did.

00:29:00.000 In Daniel, Daniel was a counselor to the king.

00:29:02.000 That is the role of Christians. 0.52

00:29:04.000 Counselor to the king.

00:29:06.000 Remember that.

00:29:07.000 We're always supposed to say there's a sovereign government.

00:29:09.000 We are the sovereign.

00:29:10.000 We have given our permission to this government.

00:29:12.000 We should be influencing that government for God's purpose.

00:29:15.000 We should be running for office.

00:29:16.000 We should be voting.

00:29:17.000 We should be running candidates.

00:29:18.000 We should be participating, watching broadcasts.

00:29:21.000 We should always be influencing secular government for God's purpose.

00:29:24.000 So how did your pastor pass his Daniel moment?

00:29:28.000 Well, in Daniel, I think it's Daniel 6, the king, he was a counselor to multiple kings.

00:29:34.000 I think it was Nebuchadnezzar, said, basically, you're not allowed to follow the traditional Jewish law.

00:29:41.000 You can't pray.

00:29:42.000 So you know what Daniel did?

00:29:45.000 Went home and opened up his window to the city and say, watch me.

00:29:50.000 That's your pastor passing the Daniel moment.

00:30:01.000 So this is the moment.

00:30:03.000 It's this simple.

00:30:04.000 And I'll get to it in my final one.

00:30:06.000 But the church built this country.

00:30:08.000 The left, the secularists, the nihilists, the people that believe there's no difference between men and women, the people that want your borders open, the people that want to keep you shut down, you know what they fear more than anything else is an active church.

00:30:22.000 They fear it.

00:30:23.000 This is why they try to, like snakes, come into the church and say, don't get involved in politics.

00:30:28.000 There's no difference between the two parties.

00:30:30.000 Abortion's not that important.

00:30:33.000 You don't have to do that.

00:30:35.000 And they just say, calm down your involvement.

00:30:37.000 And you know what?

00:30:38.000 Some pastors say is, I only care about the gospel.

00:30:41.000 So do I. That's why I care about politics.

00:30:45.000 For example, the gospel.

00:30:47.000 What does it mean?

00:30:48.000 Good news.

00:30:50.000 If all of a sudden the church is deemed non-essential, how exactly are we supposed to spread the good news?

00:30:55.000 And they always come for the church.

00:30:57.000 Now, understand, they first come for the churches they don't like.

00:31:01.000 You see the Calvary Chapel down the street with the pastors whose name I forget, who writes bad things about your pastor, who attacks your pastor, they won't touch him.

00:31:12.000 It's hilarious.

00:31:13.000 They actually fined him for doing the candlelight thing.

00:31:15.000 But they'll touch you first.

00:31:18.000 They want the disagreeable church to be silenced.

00:31:21.000 Here's why.

00:31:22.000 They know the only thing between them and their power grab is people that spend 30 minutes worshiping something that isn't government.

00:31:35.000 You just spent 30 minutes admitting, whether you realized it or not, if you participated in that worship, is you, governor, don't matter as much as my Lord.

00:31:44.000 Therefore, I take my orders from them and not from the governor.

00:31:50.000 Is that true?

00:32:10.000 Thank you.

00:32:14.000 So, this is a great opportunity for the church.

00:32:17.000 I'm going to blitz through the last two.

00:32:19.000 Number four, it's a little bit of a depressing, more philosophical one.

00:32:22.000 I'm going to build this out in the next services.

00:32:24.000 So, if you guys want to come, we're doing three of these tomorrow, right?

00:32:27.000 I'm going to do this one really quick, which is people don't want to be free.

00:32:32.000 It's a tough one.

00:32:33.000 I could prove it to you biblically.

00:32:35.000 You ready?

00:32:36.000 Moses, who God used for his purpose, the administer of the law, liberates God's chosen people, the Israelites.

00:32:46.000 They were working as slaves.

00:32:49.000 They were literally slaves.

00:32:50.000 You want to talk about slavery?

00:32:51.000 The liberation of slaves.

00:32:53.000 They're in the wilderness.

00:32:54.000 What do they do like two chapters later?

00:32:57.000 They start complaining and they say, take us back to Egypt because at least we had meat.

00:33:05.000 I could you not.

00:33:07.000 They said, We prefer comfortable slavery over dangerous freedom.

00:33:14.000 It's right there.

00:33:16.000 Freedom is hard.

00:33:17.000 Really is.

00:33:18.000 Freedom and responsibility are directly tied together.

00:33:21.000 What a lot of students say that I care about freedom is like, maybe you do.

00:33:28.000 But if your perception of freedom is just putting whatever substance you want into your body, making any moral decision you want, and somehow that is going to bring you to a place of peace, you're going to be a slave to that entire process.

00:33:43.000 What makes Christ so different, even just from, and obviously I believe Jesus is the Son of God and an equal part of the Trinity, but just from a purely philosophical point, is that everything Christ stood for was about liberating you from your past choices.

00:34:00.000 It's unbelievable when you think about it.

00:34:02.000 There's nothing else like that.

00:34:04.000 It's always about like self-improvement.

00:34:06.000 All that stuff is great.

00:34:07.000 Proverbs can be applied to most of it.

00:34:09.000 But what really, you want to torture somebody?

00:34:12.000 You know what the purest form of torture is?

00:34:15.000 Dwelling on a past mistake that you have made and never getting redemption.

00:34:20.000 There's nothing worse.

00:34:20.000 Think about that.

00:34:22.000 Jesus says, I will liberate you from that decision.

00:34:25.000 I will liberate you from that.

00:34:28.000 I will set you free from the sin.

00:34:30.000 But however, that word free is a difficult word for some people.

00:34:34.000 So we as Christians understand freedom in a different level, right?

00:34:38.000 Most of the rest of the world isn't ready for that.

00:34:42.000 Therefore, they would rather be taken care of.

00:34:48.000 And so we have to understand that in order to communicate what we believe in, we must say that freedom is a value.

00:35:01.000 Dennis Prager talks about this.

00:35:03.000 It's a provocative thing.

00:35:05.000 Freedom is not natural.

00:35:07.000 Left to their own devices, people will be terrorized or terrorists.

00:35:13.000 They'll be slaves and there will be masters.

00:35:16.000 They will be oppressors and oppressed.

00:35:18.000 It's Western civilization that changed all of it.

00:35:20.000 So freedom must be taught.

00:35:23.000 You have to tell a three-year-old that you must demand freedom, but you also make good, you must make good choices, or else you're going to be a slave to your decisions.

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00:36:33.000 You know what else is a value?

00:36:36.000 Children.

00:36:38.000 This is a very, we don't talk about this enough.

00:36:41.000 Having children is a value.

00:36:45.000 Do you know that we're on pace to have 500,000 less children this year than last year?

00:36:51.000 Every expert was wrong.

00:36:52.000 Go figure.

00:36:53.000 So they figured this.

00:36:54.000 They said, a lot of people at home, not a lot to do.

00:36:58.000 We're going to see a baby boom. 0.98

00:37:00.000 Opposite.

00:37:01.000 Why?

00:37:02.000 Because children's not a value.

00:37:04.000 Why would I have children if I don't believe in the need to replicate my values?

00:37:09.000 Why have children?

00:37:10.000 I'll participate in the act of having children, but we have the technology to allow me, technology to allow me not to have children.

00:37:18.000 So I'll choose not to.

00:37:19.000 So we are on the verge of a population collapse.

00:37:22.000 Why?

00:37:23.000 Because we have not properly communicated the need to have children.

00:37:28.000 Thankfully, we as Christians have a pretty easy answer to that.

00:37:31.000 It's biblical to have children and to multiply.

00:37:35.000 But for the rest of the world, they'll say, why do I need to recreate myself?

00:37:41.000 This world is so broken, it's terrible.

00:37:43.000 If I believed what the left believed, which is this is the worst country ever, we're going to die of global warming, everything's racist, why would I have children?

00:37:51.000 I mean that.

00:37:52.000 What a terrible place to have kids. 0.96

00:37:56.000 Why would you want to bring another life into this broken world?

00:37:58.000 We say, you know what?

00:37:59.000 No.

00:37:59.000 We're commanded to do it.

00:38:01.000 You must replicate your values.

00:38:03.000 You must pass down your ideas.

00:38:05.000 And we'll be fruitful and multiply.

00:38:07.000 You see, everything is a value.

00:38:09.000 We take so much for granted.

00:38:12.000 And you're going to see 20 years from now, all of a sudden, they're going to be like, the Earth's population is decreasing, not increasing.

00:38:18.000 Remember, they said, oh, it's going to be a population boom.

00:38:20.000 No, no, no, no.

00:38:21.000 If you do not have a reason to multiply, people will not.

00:38:26.000 Same with freedom.

00:38:26.000 Okay, last point is this.

00:38:28.000 This is the biggest point.

00:38:30.000 For the church, for America, for all of us, this is either the beginning or it's the end.

00:38:35.000 It's really that simple.

00:38:37.000 So almost every institution that came before us has been completely delegitimized in the eyes of America.

00:38:48.000 I don't trust any news service basically anymore.

00:38:51.000 I don't trust the tech companies.

00:38:53.000 I don't trust the colleges.

00:38:55.000 I don't trust the teachers that teach our kids.

00:38:57.000 There's some great teachers out there, but generally I don't.

00:39:00.000 I don't trust the curriculum.

00:39:02.000 A lot of the churches have gone astray.

00:39:03.000 Okay, what does that mean?

00:39:04.000 What's the biblical thing to do in a time like this?

00:39:08.000 When God scatters, when all of a sudden there's chaos and confusion, do we hide and retreat and we kind of wait?

00:39:15.000 And so some people have a firm belief eschatologically that Jesus is coming next Thursday.

00:39:21.000 You might be right.

00:39:23.000 That is not an excuse for inaction.

00:39:25.000 Some people, and I'm going to be this as loving as I can, they use eschatology as an excuse not to contest in the public square.

00:39:34.000 And there's a lot of robust debate in there.

00:39:36.000 I don't get into any of it, to be honest.

00:39:38.000 Here's what I do know.

00:39:38.000 People say the house is on fire.

00:39:41.000 We got to get the kids out, protect our own little circle.

00:39:44.000 How about you put out the fire?

00:39:47.000 How about you put out the fire and you build new?

00:39:49.000 And that's what we must do in this moment.

00:39:51.000 So, in this moment, we are at a time where people are going to be looking for truth more than ever.

00:40:00.000 This will either be the moment where the church, where Christians, or even people that have never come to a church before, people that love freedom or our country, will be courageous and bold or will be fearful and cowardly.

00:40:16.000 So, what does that look like?

00:40:18.000 People say, well, then what do I do?

00:40:19.000 What's the action step?

00:40:21.000 Because I always like, I don't like just giving speeches, and then people are like, well, that was nice, but what exactly do I do?

00:40:25.000 Here's the action step: we got to start taking terrain.

00:40:28.000 You got to run for school board.

00:40:29.000 You got to run for mayor's races.

00:40:31.000 You got to start taking terrain.

00:40:35.000 Number two, you have to take the education of your children unbelievably seriously.

00:40:41.000 If you can, homeschool.

00:40:43.000 If you're retired, help a homeschooling parent.

00:40:46.000 If there's a private school that's doing a good job like your academy, then maybe volunteer.

00:40:50.000 Do whatever you can to help the education.

00:40:53.000 Education comes from the Latin word to lead forth.

00:40:56.000 Are we leading forth well right now?

00:40:59.000 No.

00:41:00.000 What happens on college campuses will soon happen in the halls of Congress and in corporate boardrooms.

00:41:05.000 And so if we do not reverse the educational decay in our country, then nothing will get solved.

00:41:10.000 Here's the other thing that I think is so exciting: and it's the Genesis 11 principle.

00:41:15.000 And you guys would understand this better than anyone else.

00:41:18.000 They are pushing the boundaries of what God has allowed human beings to do on this planet.

00:41:27.000 God will scatter them like he did the Tower of Babel. 1.00

00:41:30.000 He will.

00:41:30.000 The question is: will we be hiding in our caves and our catacombs, or will we be contesting and occupying, building new companies, starting new endeavors, getting married and having families and having children, and yes, being unafraid of whatever the local tyrant might say because you're hosting a religious service.

00:41:50.000 And here's what's going on, here's the amazing thing: is that when you step into that public square, the ecclesia, the ecclesia is a biblical word where if I said, Jesus said to his disciples, on this rock, build my, and we say church, right?

00:42:06.000 The word is ecclesia.

00:42:08.000 What is an ecclesia?

00:42:09.000 An ecclesia was a Greek word for a political gathering where they unified around two other Greek words, eleutheria and isonomia, freedom and equality.

00:42:19.000 So Jesus used the word, on this rock, build my public square engagement center.

00:42:25.000 On this rock, build my go forth in every sector.

00:42:29.000 This idea of compartmentalized Christianity has got to stop.

00:42:34.000 We should have comprehensive Christianity where we're saying, you know what?

00:42:38.000 I don't like the music my kids listening to.

00:42:40.000 I'm going to go support a Christian artist or I'm going to do it myself.

00:42:43.000 I don't like the education of my kids.

00:42:44.000 I'm going to step up and do it myself.

00:42:46.000 Where we're not going to just be spectators, but we're going to be participants in the culture of what's happening right now.

00:42:53.000 And so this is a great moment.

00:42:56.000 It really is.

00:42:57.000 I know a lot of people are down.

00:42:59.000 I know a lot of people are feeling depressed.

00:43:02.000 But we are on the precipice of what can be not just a great awakening in this country, but a revival the likes of which we've never seen before.

00:43:11.000 But it's only going to happen.

00:43:13.000 It's only going to happen if we step into that public square.

00:43:18.000 And so for those of you that are here and you just came for a political speech, you got some of that too.

00:43:24.000 But I encourage you this.

00:43:25.000 And maybe you haven't been to church in a while.

00:43:28.000 Maybe you don't go to a church.

00:43:29.000 Maybe you don't believe in God.

00:43:32.000 I could tell you that the most fulfilling thing that a human being can do is to come in a relationship with your creator.

00:43:42.000 After that, everything starts to make more sense.

00:43:46.000 And so the Bible's the greatest book ever written in the history of the world.

00:43:52.000 It is the word of God.

00:43:53.000 Read Proverbs.

00:43:54.000 Read John if you have never opened up the Bible before.

00:43:58.000 But be courageous.

00:43:59.000 This time is for us.

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00:44:44.000 We have three services tomorrow, but I'm so blessed to be here.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - March 15, 2026

From the Archives: Charlie On Why Churches Must Engage the Culture

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