The Charlie Kirk Show - February 19, 2022


Frontline Special—4 TPUSA Students Tell Their Story + Jenny Beth Martin from Tea Party Patriots


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In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk sits down with four college students from Turning Point USA to talk about what it's like to be a conservative in college, and what it means to be an open conservative on a college campus.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 No advertisers, first of all, so thank you for your support at CharlieKirk.com/slash support.
00:00:06.000 It's a combo episode, my conversation with Turning Point USA students from the front lines.
00:00:10.000 You're going to love to hear what they have to say.
00:00:12.000 And also my conversation with Jenny Beth Martin, who is the head of Tea Party Patriots and does a wonderful job.
00:00:19.000 And so you'll be able to hear this conversation.
00:00:21.000 No advertisers.
00:00:21.000 Thanks to all of you that support us so generously at charliekirk.com slash support.
00:00:27.000 CharlieKirk.com slash support.
00:00:30.000 And if you want to get involved with Turning PointUSA, go to tpusa.com.
00:00:34.000 That's tpusa.com at turningpointusa.
00:00:36.000 We are making hope happen.
00:00:38.000 So get involved today at tpusa.com.
00:00:40.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:41.000 Here we go.
00:00:42.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:44.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:00:46.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:50.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:53.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:54.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:55.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:04.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:12.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:15.000 Hey, everybody, we got a treat for you.
00:01:17.000 Four amazing college campus conservatives fighting the good fight on the front lines for liberty and freedom, the Constitution, and the American Dream, all involved at Turning Point USA.
00:01:27.000 So honored to have all of you guys with us.
00:01:29.000 Let's go around the horn and you introduce yourselves, kind of where you're from, where you go to college.
00:01:33.000 Marcos, let's start with you.
00:01:34.000 Sure.
00:01:34.000 Well, thanks for having us, Charlie.
00:01:35.000 My name is Marco Zalata.
00:01:37.000 I'm a United States Army veteran.
00:01:38.000 I go to Cal State Fullerton and I'm from Upland, California.
00:01:41.000 Great.
00:01:41.000 Cool.
00:01:41.000 I'm Logan Colsack.
00:01:43.000 I'm actually from Chicago, from the Wheeling area.
00:01:45.000 Really?
00:01:46.000 I am.
00:01:46.000 Where'd you go to high school?
00:01:47.000 I was actually homeschooled.
00:01:48.000 Well, that's why you're so smart.
00:01:49.000 I know.
00:01:49.000 Thank you.
00:01:50.000 I appreciate that.
00:01:51.000 So, yeah, and I go to Point Loma Nazarene University in San Diego, California.
00:01:55.000 Awesome.
00:01:55.000 Hi, I'm Kira.
00:01:57.000 I go to Cal State San Marcos, and I'm from Carlsbad, California.
00:02:01.000 My name is Gabby.
00:02:03.000 I'm from Fullerton, California, and I go to Cal State Fullerton.
00:02:06.000 So, well, kind of anyone can answer this.
00:02:11.000 Talk about what it's like being an open conservative on a college campus.
00:02:16.000 And do any of you feel as if you've been graded differently or outwardly discriminated against?
00:02:21.000 I'm going to use that word because of your conservative beliefs.
00:02:24.000 Oh, yeah, absolutely, Charlie.
00:02:25.000 So just recently, the Daily Caller wrote about the situation at Cal State Fullerton.
00:02:29.000 They've openly attacked me for being a Christian, for being a veteran, a Latino conservative.
00:02:34.000 They've tried to silence me and assault me on campus.
00:02:37.000 But I come from a background of a warrior mentality.
00:02:40.000 So to me, I think it's fun.
00:02:41.000 I think it's worth the fight, and I think it's important that someone does it without fear.
00:02:44.000 So by they, you mean the administration?
00:02:47.000 I mean the Progressives Club and just anyone who would identify as a leftist on our campus.
00:02:51.000 Now, if you were to, let's just say, dish out what they put towards you, you would probably be investigated by...
00:02:57.000 Yeah, I've said it before.
00:02:58.000 If we acted the way they did with the insults and calls for violence, we would be punished at the highest standards, which it should be that way.
00:03:06.000 But we don't act that way because we're conservatives and because we are Christians.
00:03:09.000 Well, that's the most important thing.
00:03:11.000 So Gabby, so you're involved on the front lines, and you've probably been a recipient of a lot of different attacks.
00:03:18.000 Talk a little bit about that.
00:03:19.000 So growing up, I've always been an outspoken conservative.
00:03:22.000 I've never known the difference.
00:03:24.000 I didn't know it was taboo to be a conservative.
00:03:27.000 Freshman year and sophomore year of high school, I was called racist.
00:03:31.000 I was talked about on Twitter.
00:03:33.000 So going into college, I was already prepared.
00:03:36.000 I wasn't going to stray away.
00:03:38.000 I wasn't going to back down.
00:03:40.000 But luckily, I'm a business major.
00:03:43.000 So a majority of my professors are pretty based, not biased.
00:03:48.000 Even my most leftist professors were not biased, even when I disagreed with their ideology and beliefs.
00:03:55.000 But do you think from the students, do you think there's intolerance that brews from there?
00:04:00.000 Oh, 100%.
00:04:01.000 I was involved with the whole Progressive Club debacle and how they attacked our chapter.
00:04:08.000 We have so many screenshots and it's been very interesting, but again, I've been through this since high school, so it's not my first time around this rodeo.
00:04:19.000 And it makes you tougher.
00:04:20.000 Oh, 100%.
00:04:21.000 So Logan, you were on the front lines of a controversy that I was very well aware of.
00:04:25.000 Yeah.
00:04:26.000 So you go to Point Loma.
00:04:27.000 Correct.
00:04:28.000 So that is a Christian school.
00:04:30.000 Supposedly.
00:04:30.000 You know, Christian school by name, but.
00:04:33.000 You said it.
00:04:34.000 I heard it.
00:04:34.000 Yeah.
00:04:35.000 So you go to this school and you tried to start a Turning Point USA chapter.
00:04:39.000 I did.
00:04:39.000 And Turning Point USA, we stand for the Constitution, for freedom of speech, for American exceptionalism.
00:04:44.000 What happened next?
00:04:46.000 So we tried to start it 2020.
00:04:48.000 So the first time, got denied.
00:04:50.000 They said we were too out there, too radical.
00:04:52.000 I tried again this year, and again, the same thing is we had hateful rhetoric, that we wanted to create violence in their system.
00:04:59.000 It's just crazy.
00:05:00.000 And so I tried to start that, and it got totally pushed back by the administration, by our student government.
00:05:07.000 It was actually only four people who voted on it, or five people who voted and said, we don't want it at our club.
00:05:13.000 And those were students, and they completely blocked it from entering our campus.
00:05:17.000 And the response from the students was crazy.
00:05:20.000 I got so many messages on Instagram, text messages of people just calling me out.
00:05:25.000 I had so many people posting me personally on their story saying, how can you stand for this?
00:05:30.000 You're just a white conservative male who is complaining.
00:05:33.000 There's so many bigger issues out there and yet you complain because you're so privileged.
00:05:36.000 And that was the response from a lot of the student population because apparently my beliefs are unacceptable at our school.
00:05:43.000 So you're a Christian?
00:05:43.000 I am, yes.
00:05:44.000 And you go to an allegedly Christian school?
00:05:47.000 Allegedly.
00:05:47.000 And we have a lot of friends that have been through your institution, have been through Point Loma.
00:05:53.000 Now the administration had an opportunity to maybe right this wrong and they decided not to.
00:05:58.000 Is that correct?
00:05:59.000 Correct.
00:05:59.000 I had meetings with a lot of the administration and they basically said it's out of our hands.
00:06:03.000 It was the student government who decided and there's nothing we can do about it.
00:06:06.000 And this is a procedural excuse, right?
00:06:08.000 Correct.
00:06:08.000 Because talk about some of the other groups that are actually on campus at Point Loma.
00:06:12.000 Yeah, we have a Democrat club, a College of Democrats that's allowed to exist.
00:06:16.000 And we also have a Voices of Love Club.
00:06:19.000 What is that?
00:06:19.000 It's an LGBTQ plus friendly club that is on campus.
00:06:23.000 At a Christian school.
00:06:24.000 At a Christian school.
00:06:25.000 And so, but they would say, oh, that's the students that want that.
00:06:27.000 We're not going to take a stance on it.
00:06:29.000 Right, right.
00:06:30.000 They say the students want it.
00:06:31.000 They say it's not technically part of the university so they can bypass our Nazarene and Wesleyan traditions.
00:06:36.000 But then last year they actually won the Diversity of the Year award from the school.
00:06:41.000 So the school not only endorses it, they actually...
00:06:43.000 So at Point Loma, a school that calls themselves Christian, they are giving awards to transgender groups.
00:06:50.000 Yeah, an LGBTQ group on the group.
00:06:53.000 The whole group.
00:06:53.000 Voices of Love.
00:06:55.000 The whole alphabet, whatever.
00:06:55.000 The whole shebang.
00:06:56.000 Yeah, sure.
00:06:57.000 I get confused with that too.
00:06:58.000 So we'll be back to that.
00:06:59.000 So, Kira, tell us about your experience on campus.
00:07:02.000 Yeah, so I am a communications major, and with that comes a lot of leftist professors.
00:07:10.000 So I get taught CRT, gender theory, queer theory.
00:07:17.000 I was looking through one of my classes this semester at the curriculum and it's like all this crazy stuff and I have to pretend to be a leftist to pass some of my classes when I'm in the middle of the passing grade.
00:07:32.000 Yeah.
00:07:33.000 So and I don't fault you for that by the way.
00:07:35.000 I'm sure you've heard some of my speeches where I say make your decision as you see fit, but parents need to know when you send a child to college, you're gonna have to lie to get a good grade, is that correct?
00:07:46.000 Yeah, a lot of professors are very adamant in their beliefs, which, you know, it's fine.
00:07:54.000 But they are not open to hearing other people's viewpoints.
00:07:59.000 So they'll mark you down if you're not following the prompt or whatever.
00:08:05.000 It's really frustrating.
00:08:07.000 So you mentioned something that I'm a little curious about.
00:08:09.000 I'm not saying this sarcastically at all.
00:08:11.000 What is queer theory?
00:08:12.000 I have no clue.
00:08:14.000 Okay.
00:08:14.000 Yeah, I haven't read any of the materials yet.
00:08:17.000 That's why you're wise.
00:08:19.000 So I mean this in a non, you know, I'm not trying to insult.
00:08:22.000 When I grew up, that term used to be a term of slander.
00:08:26.000 Like I would get in trouble for using that term.
00:08:28.000 Exactly.
00:08:28.000 And now, am I recollecting that?
00:08:32.000 Same for my, I guess, my generation.
00:08:34.000 You wouldn't call someone that.
00:08:35.000 That was seen as a bad thing.
00:08:36.000 Now they slap it under logos and their buildings and they make theories out of it.
00:08:40.000 And is it, what exactly is the curriculum of this?
00:08:44.000 You wouldn't, just kind of just general.
00:08:46.000 I think they could teach it to me and I still wouldn't understand it, honestly.
00:08:50.000 Yeah, so I'm just curious about that.
00:08:51.000 So you have to make a decision then consciously, grade or what I believe.
00:08:57.000 How do you sort through that?
00:09:00.000 You know, it's tough.
00:09:01.000 I really, when I'm reading the materials, I kind of put myself into like the place of that writer where they might be.
00:09:10.000 And it's tough.
00:09:12.000 I have to kind of like spew out this nonsense.
00:09:17.000 And I really, I don't get to say how I truly believe.
00:09:22.000 I feel like it hinders my writing, to be honest.
00:09:25.000 So yeah, that's an interesting point, right?
00:09:27.000 So it actually makes you less creative.
00:09:29.000 It makes you less likely to perform at your highest ability because you just have to conform to whatever the problem is.
00:09:35.000 So let's talk about one of the things you talked about, CRT, critical race theory.
00:09:39.000 It comes in many different variations.
00:09:41.000 Have you guys heard the phrase white silence as violence or white privilege and all that?
00:09:46.000 So Marcus, we'll go around the horn again.
00:09:49.000 Have you been told that you have white privilege?
00:09:51.000 You know what?
00:09:52.000 I have not, but I will say this when people...
00:09:55.000 Of course, right.
00:09:56.000 I wouldn't be surprised if I got told that at this point.
00:10:00.000 I will openly say this.
00:10:02.000 When people say that there is a white privilege and that somehow I am hindered by the color of my skin, I consider that person racist because that's the actual racism.
00:10:10.000 I am blessed to be in this country.
00:10:12.000 I was brought up that way.
00:10:13.000 My parents made sacrifices to make sure they could come to this country legally and I could benefit from the fruit of this country.
00:10:18.000 I am not underprivileged.
00:10:20.000 I am just capable of anything regardless of my skin color.
00:10:23.000 So shame on them.
00:10:24.000 CRT is racist and I'm waiting for the day to say I'm not Latina anymore just because I'm conservative.
00:10:29.000 Well, you're American.
00:10:30.000 That's what's important.
00:10:31.000 It really is.
00:10:32.000 And so Gabby, talk about how everything is hyper-racialized, you know, from your campus.
00:10:38.000 Would you say your experience is that first and foremost, they're training students to look at things through a racial lens?
00:10:43.000 Oh, 100%.
00:10:44.000 I mean, I can look at myself.
00:10:46.000 I'm half white and half Korean, but I see myself as an American.
00:10:50.000 And people always put me in a box saying like, oh, my friends do this too, old friends of mine, not my friends now.
00:10:56.000 They'll be like, oh, Gabby's the Asian friend. 0.98
00:10:58.000 Or, look at Gabby, she's Asian. 1.00
00:11:00.000 But then when I'm a conservative, I'm a white supremac. 0.85
00:11:04.000 I remember I was called a white privileged cracker.
00:11:08.000 And so your identity immediately changes based on your beliefs.
00:11:12.000 Yes.
00:11:13.000 Is that right?
00:11:13.000 So you somehow like lose your minority card or whatever if you don't agree with the status quo.
00:11:19.000 So Logan, you got some serious problems.
00:11:21.000 We both do.
00:11:22.000 We're white, cisgendered, we're in violation of all of it, right?
00:11:28.000 So how do you make sense of that on your campus?
00:11:31.000 Yeah, no, it's crazy.
00:11:32.000 So a couple instances, I was on the debate team, and the debate team in college debate is just a breeding ground for liberal ideology.
00:11:40.000 And if you're a straight white Christian conservative male, I've lost grounds.
00:11:44.000 People have...
00:11:45.000 Can I ask you something?
00:11:46.000 I would think it would be the opposite.
00:11:47.000 Like debate would try to be fostering other opinions.
00:11:50.000 So explain that to me.
00:11:52.000 You would think.
00:11:52.000 I'm not really sure why it happens, but in the college debate sphere, people are just attracted to all these different things.
00:11:59.000 In a debate round, I've had people come up and say, Logan is privileged.
00:12:03.000 We shouldn't listen to what he's saying because he's white. 0.98
00:12:06.000 He doesn't experience diversity.
00:12:08.000 He doesn't experience these hardships that we have to experience.
00:12:11.000 And that's crazy.
00:12:12.000 Another example, I was an RA, so a resident assistant last year.
00:12:16.000 So over the election, over 2020 with all that COVID stuff going on.
00:12:20.000 And that was crazy.
00:12:21.000 One of the things that they made us do was diversity training.
00:12:24.000 So they got us all the RAs in a room and they had, they went over diversity.
00:12:29.000 And a woman went on the stage, a white woman, and she said, I want to apologize for being white. 0.56
00:12:33.000 And so in front of all the students, he's like, if you're white, you should probably apologize because you have privilege in society. 0.51
00:12:41.000 And I talked back to administration, and I got in trouble, obviously.
00:12:44.000 I was just like, diversity of thought is included in diversity.
00:12:47.000 It's not just the colors.
00:12:49.000 Yes.
00:12:49.000 There's a lot of other things that go into play when you're talking about diversity, but that wasn't reciprocated or accepted too well at my school.
00:12:57.000 Well, yeah, diversity of skin color means absolutely nothing, especially we as Christians believe that.
00:13:01.000 We think diversity of thought, most importantly, unity in Christ is what really matters.
00:13:05.000 And so Kira, talk a little bit about, you said you're being taught CRT.
00:13:09.000 Do you, and this is, I'm not trying to lead the questioner, so you could feel free to say no.
00:13:13.000 Do you think it's creating more racial thoughts, tension, or just racism?
00:13:19.000 I think it creates racism.
00:13:21.000 I mean, it's like we, in elementary school, we were taught, you know, to be colorblind.
00:13:28.000 And that's how I grew up.
00:13:29.000 You know, I don't see people by the color of their skin.
00:13:33.000 And that's, you know, how it's supposed to be.
00:13:36.000 You judge someone by their character.
00:13:39.000 And CRT teaches the exact opposite, that you should look at people by the color of their skin.
00:13:44.000 And I think that's so racist.
00:13:46.000 I totally agree.
00:13:47.000 So let's kind of focus on that for a second.
00:13:50.000 I have a similar experience.
00:13:51.000 I grew up in a country where we used to believe a certain thing.
00:13:54.000 And so now, but you're in college now, looking back to what you're taught in elementary school, and you're like, what changed?
00:14:00.000 Right?
00:14:00.000 I mean, for me, it was elementary school, middle school, and high school.
00:14:04.000 It was all kind of the same thing.
00:14:05.000 We want to be colorblind, don't care about people's skin color.
00:14:08.000 And I went to a high school that was 53% Hispanic.
00:14:12.000 I was a minority as a white male in it, and no one cared about skin color.
00:14:15.000 I mean this.
00:14:16.000 It was a wonderful thing where people cared about your content, your character, and your ideas and your aspirations.
00:14:21.000 And it was a really interesting thing and really fun.
00:14:24.000 And honestly, the way America should be, and now it's been totally destroyed.
00:14:27.000 But how do you make sense of that?
00:14:29.000 How are you going to tell that story 10 years from?
00:14:31.000 Like, yeah, I grew up in America that believed in the dream Martin Luther King, and then I went to college that believed in the dream of the KKK.
00:14:38.000 Like, I don't quite understand that.
00:14:39.000 I have no clue.
00:14:40.000 It's like so backwards.
00:14:43.000 Like, I have no idea how they're teaching this stuff and how people truly believe it.
00:14:47.000 So let me ask you guys a couple more questions around the horn.
00:14:51.000 So Kabbi, I'll start with you.
00:14:52.000 When you tell your parents these things, do you have conservative parents sending wife? 0.95
00:14:56.000 You do.
00:14:57.000 Okay.
00:14:57.000 What's their reaction when you tell them this sort of stuff?
00:15:01.000 They're not really surprised.
00:15:04.000 I did grow up in a very conservative household and my parents and I talk politics all the time and I'm very open with them and what happens on my campus, even going back to elementary school, junior high, and high school.
00:15:16.000 And it really does like blow my mom's mind because I guess common sense just isn't so common.
00:15:21.000 And you're paying for the not common sense too as well.
00:15:24.000 Oh gosh, especially being online too.
00:15:27.000 Yeah.
00:15:27.000 Well that's it.
00:15:28.000 So you had to be online for most of these classes.
00:15:31.000 And we're online right now.
00:15:33.000 This is our last week, supposedly.
00:15:35.000 Yeah, okay.
00:15:36.000 So let's just ask a basic question.
00:15:38.000 Why are you guys conservative and how did you become a conservative?
00:15:41.000 Kira, and then we'll go all the way around.
00:15:43.000 Yeah, so I used to be a big Bernie supporter, to be honest.
00:15:47.000 In high school?
00:15:48.000 High school yeah, and when I was first starting college, I started to be more open to conservative ideas.
00:15:56.000 In 2020, my boyfriend is conservative and I am so grateful that he wanted to date me.
00:16:04.000 He opened me up to a bunch of new ideas and I did research on my own.
00:16:08.000 You know, I was kind of blindly supporting people on the left because I thought that that was the good side, so I'm really glad that I'm in the place that I am now with my beliefs.
00:16:23.000 I truly believe these things and I have like facts to back it up and not just feelings.
00:16:31.000 So the more you learned, the more confidence you got.
00:16:34.000 And was it a thing where you said, I never heard that before and I never heard that before?
00:16:38.000 Kind of, yeah.
00:16:40.000 Yeah.
00:16:40.000 And so the more you dove, the stronger your belief became.
00:16:43.000 So Logan, why are you a conservative?
00:16:45.000 I'm a Rush baby.
00:16:46.000 Okay, so my parents in the car, all of our car drives listen to Rush.
00:16:51.000 Yeah, AM 890 then from Chicago.
00:16:54.000 890.
00:16:55.000 WLS.
00:16:56.000 W-L-S-W-I-N-D. 1.00
00:16:57.000 Love them.
00:16:58.000 And so I would listen to Rush growing up.
00:17:00.000 And then coming to college, I was kind of, I was conservative.
00:17:03.000 I was a debater in high school, so I was able to think logically and critically and saw that conservative values worked the best, was the most practical in the real world, but also it aligned most to my Christianity, my faith.
00:17:15.000 And then in college, it was kind of on the back burner.
00:17:17.000 Conservative thought wasn't really a huge issue until 2020 when COVID came.
00:17:21.000 I was actually living in Paris at that time, and I had to come home.
00:17:25.000 Study abroad.
00:17:25.000 Study abroad.
00:17:26.000 I was studying abroad, came home to Chicago, completely locked down for like two, three months.
00:17:32.000 And that's when I was just ticked off.
00:17:33.000 I was like, this is crazy.
00:17:35.000 Like, we need to open up.
00:17:36.000 And that's when I got more like involved in conservative values.
00:17:38.000 And then going back to campus with campus being completely locked down, it really like made me want to fight for my values and fight for the beliefs that I hold dear because that's the only way I knew I was going to make a change.
00:17:49.000 And so that's kind of my journey.
00:17:51.000 Marcos, have you always been conservative?
00:17:53.000 You know what?
00:17:53.000 I didn't understand that I was conservative growing up.
00:17:56.000 I mean, my mom came from Guatemala.
00:17:58.000 She just taught me Christianity, put God in everything you do, what's right and what's wrong, fight for prosperity.
00:18:04.000 And then as I got older, I remember I was in high school and I started like, hey, mom, are you going to vote for Obama?
00:18:09.000 And her barely knowing your politics, she knew enough to be, no, absolutely not.
00:18:14.000 And after that, I started realizing, okay, so you don't agree with that side.
00:18:18.000 And started learning more and more, went into the Army, started reading more and more on my own as I served my country.
00:18:24.000 And then I came back and I instantly realized what is happening here.
00:18:27.000 This is nothing like it was when I left.
00:18:29.000 Found a Turning Point table, signed up, got more involved.
00:18:32.000 I was at the time I was attempting to go around and debating every single leftist table I could find.
00:18:36.000 And then I came across Turning Point.
00:18:37.000 I'm like, hey, for one, I agree with you guys finally.
00:18:39.000 And then you got involved.
00:18:40.000 And then I got involved in it.
00:18:41.000 I haven't gone back since.
00:18:43.000 I love being able to be outspoken and fight the good fight.
00:18:46.000 So we recruited you just right from a table.
00:18:48.000 Yes, I joined Turning Point two weeks after being discharged from the military.
00:18:52.000 That is cool.
00:18:54.000 So just really quickly, let's go around the horn.
00:18:57.000 Are you optimistic about the future of the country?
00:18:59.000 You're living and growing up around the future leaders, right?
00:19:04.000 So you're seeing the future CEOs, Supreme Court justices, cops, you know, all of it.
00:19:10.000 Gabby, you first.
00:19:12.000 Yes, I'm very optimistic.
00:19:13.000 I will never give up on this country.
00:19:15.000 I mean, I haven't even given up on the state when a lot of people have.
00:19:18.000 And it really stems from my faith in God because God can do anything.
00:19:23.000 He can make change.
00:19:24.000 He can make change in California.
00:19:26.000 If he can do that, he can make amazing changes throughout the country.
00:19:28.000 So I'm very optimistic.
00:19:30.000 Thank you.
00:19:31.000 Yeah, I'm optimistic as well.
00:19:33.000 I try to look on the bright side.
00:19:35.000 I think a lot of people are waking up and it's really good to see.
00:19:38.000 And same thing, God can do the impossible.
00:19:42.000 And yeah.
00:19:44.000 Logan, I saw a little bit of a face.
00:19:46.000 You're like, I don't know with my classmates at Point Loma.
00:19:48.000 Optimistic if they get power, is the country in a good place?
00:19:52.000 I don't know.
00:19:54.000 I think overall, I think I would be optimistic because the people who will become the leaders of the world, this next generation, is people like us, the ones that are ones that are here, actually out there fighting the good fight.
00:20:06.000 And those people are going to be the ones that are leading our country in the future, while the people who are complaining are going to be the ones on the sidelines.
00:20:12.000 And so I'm optimistic because we'll be in charge and we'll be the leaders.
00:20:15.000 Marcos, you've lived the American dream.
00:20:17.000 Are you optimistic?
00:20:18.000 You know what?
00:20:18.000 I am, but I understand there's a lot of danger ahead if we don't work hard.
00:20:22.000 There's so many conservative students who are too afraid to stand up.
00:20:25.000 There's too many parents who don't support their kids in standing up.
00:20:28.000 There's institutions and leaders in those institutions who are too afraid to stand up, like our professors who are conservatives and will tell us behind closed doors, but won't openly say, I'll support Turning Point, and we won't allow this at our campus.
00:20:40.000 But I understand and I see that God is moving in certain ways.
00:20:44.000 When it gets worse, that's when he comes in and does the most good.
00:20:47.000 So we will fix it.
00:20:48.000 Like Gabby said, I haven't given up on California.
00:20:51.000 I just, I don't believe in quitting.
00:20:52.000 It's not who I am.
00:20:53.000 It's not the word mentality I was given by God and by my experiences.
00:20:57.000 So we will fix it, but it's a wrong road ahead and we have to be prepared for it.
00:21:00.000 Well, I'm optimistic because of you four and the thousands and thousands of leaders that we have in Turning Point USA, just like you.
00:21:07.000 So if you were moved by any of these students, you guys can support them by going to tpusa.com.
00:21:12.000 You can check out their chapter information or get your kids and grandkids involved with Turning Point USA.
00:21:17.000 It's tpusa.com.
00:21:18.000 How great was AmericaFest?
00:21:20.000 Were you guys there?
00:21:20.000 It was sick.
00:21:21.000 Fantastic.
00:21:21.000 It was amazing.
00:21:22.000 We have the biggest and best events on campus and off campus, Young Women's Leadership Summit, Young Latino Leadership Summit.
00:21:28.000 We have our Student Action Summit, AmericaFest, both on campus and off campus.
00:21:32.000 We are making sure that your kids and grandkids live in a free country.
00:21:35.000 We'll be right back.
00:21:39.000 Hey, everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:21:41.000 Very good friend of mine, someone who is like the original grassroots coordinator outside of the Republican Party, who really helped start the Tea Party move, not started it herself.
00:21:50.000 Jenny Beth Martin from Tea Party Patriots.
00:21:52.000 How are you doing?
00:21:52.000 I'm great.
00:21:53.000 It's so good to be with you, Charlie.
00:21:54.000 The work you do for our country is so important, and we've known each other for a while, and you're always on the front lines, whether it be election integrity, vaccine mandates, all of it.
00:22:02.000 So I just want to thank you for all that you've done.
00:22:04.000 Oh, thank you.
00:22:05.000 And you're doing so much too.
00:22:07.000 It's just great to see how much energy you get with the younger generation and the grassroots involvement that they are engaged in.
00:22:15.000 It's synergy.
00:22:16.000 So tell us what you're working on at Tea Party Patriots.
00:22:18.000 So we're working on a couple of things.
00:22:20.000 A big thing we're working on right now is building permanent election integrity infrastructures in key states around the country.
00:22:27.000 So right now, this week, I have been traveling and doing a tour in Arizona where we're training people on how to build these local election integrity task forces.
00:22:38.000 And then I've already done the same kind of tour in Georgia.
00:22:41.000 We have a summit coming up in Georgia that Cleta Mitchell and Conservative Partnership Institute are hosting.
00:22:47.000 And then we're going on from here to Nevada.
00:22:49.000 And then we'll have Pennsylvania and North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Michigan where we're doing the same thing over the next two and a half months.
00:22:56.000 Well, that's terrific.
00:22:57.000 So tell us about what you're training these people to do.
00:23:00.000 Poll watchers, like just walk us through that.
00:23:02.000 So poll watchers and poll workers, that's usually what traditionally Republicans think of when we think of election integrity.
00:23:09.000 And certainly that's important.
00:23:10.000 And we need people to be poll watchers and especially people who are willing to work the polls, either as an election official, election judge, or just a poll worker, whatever they're called in their state.
00:23:21.000 But there are several more steps beyond that, including building a working group who will be present at your local election board meetings, committee meetings, subcommittee meetings, really understanding what's going on in those offices, researching what kind of contracts they have, temporary staffing.
00:23:39.000 In Fulton County, Georgia, they used a company called Happy Faces.
00:23:43.000 They've been trying to get rid of that.
00:23:44.000 So trying to understand just how these work and then cleaning the voter rolls, chasing and curing ballots.
00:23:53.000 And there's an entire plan for it that honestly, Cleta Mitchell put the plan together and we're going and training people and helping them learn how to build out the full infrastructure and then how to build out the working groups so they can really get the items done that she's put together.
00:24:12.000 And how to push through potential points of opposition, right?
00:24:14.000 That's exactly right.
00:24:15.000 In fact, one of the suggestions that we had this morning or yesterday was someone saying, you know, when you do poll worker training, it would be really good if you had some people who are acting out the kind of problems.
00:24:26.000 Like, what if you're watching a ballot drop box and someone's coming up with eight ballots and turning them in?
00:24:32.000 What do you do?
00:24:33.000 How can you stop that?
00:24:34.000 Because once they're in that box, it's all over.
00:24:38.000 The ballots are laundered.
00:24:38.000 It's hard to see.
00:24:40.000 Yeah, I mean, and you look at Dinesh D'Souza's new evidence, which I know you've been briefed on.
00:24:45.000 It's extraordinary.
00:24:46.000 And you look at Georgia, over 200 people, at least 200 to 300 people that visited over 25 ballot boxes in the middle of the night.
00:24:54.000 Right.
00:24:54.000 And so we want to make sure that we're training people.
00:24:58.000 We're not attorneys or prosecutors or sheriffs.
00:25:01.000 So there are things that we can't, that are beyond our control.
00:25:05.000 And we're trying to say, okay, we know you're angry.
00:25:07.000 We got to take all that passion and turn it into action to prevent people from ever doing these kind of things again as an individual citizen exercising our rights under the law in each of our states.
00:25:20.000 And are you seeing a good response from people on that?
00:25:23.000 Yeah, we really are seeing a good response.
00:25:25.000 And sometimes people come up to me afterwards and they're like, wow, I wasn't expecting this.
00:25:30.000 They're expecting like a speech.
00:25:33.000 And I do go through everything that I not everything, but I go through an overview of things that went wrong, especially in Georgia, because it was on, I served on President Trump's legal team in Georgia.
00:25:43.000 So I understand what went on.
00:25:46.000 And his team in Georgia focused on violations of our state law.
00:25:50.000 And so we see a trend around the entire country.
00:25:54.000 There were dozens of laws broken or violated in Georgia.
00:25:58.000 The same thing is going on in Arizona and Nevada and Wisconsin and Michigan.
00:26:03.000 And we're trying to help people understand how to prevent those from being broken in the first place.
00:26:09.000 Yeah, I mean, in Georgia, it was a criminal network that was harvesting ballots.
00:26:14.000 So yes, we have that.
00:26:15.000 Absolutely.
00:26:16.000 We've got those items going on.
00:26:18.000 We have the situation where the state farm arena, the poll watchers and workers, the poll watchers in public and the media were kicked out.
00:26:28.000 Ballots continued being counting against state law because there was no public observation.
00:26:33.000 And then we know that batches of ballots were going through the scanner more than one time.
00:26:38.000 And there's been an open records request that shows that the scanned images show ballots were counted more than one time.
00:26:45.000 There were a lot of problems.
00:26:47.000 The network is one of them.
00:26:48.000 Scanning a ballot more than one time and counting it and the results more than once is a huge problem as well.
00:26:54.000 Yeah.
00:26:54.000 So how do we prevent that from happening though?
00:26:57.000 Because they'll just kick you out.
00:26:58.000 Well, so then we have to make sure that we equip people and they know the law, that there are attorneys in place to help if they're trying to kick them out.
00:27:07.000 And that when that is beginning to happen, they stop it.
00:27:11.000 Whether they're having to call the local police or sheriff and say, look, you've got to, we have a right to be here.
00:27:16.000 As long as they're counting and tabulating votes, they cannot kick us out.
00:27:21.000 But they did, though, right?
00:27:23.000 They did.
00:27:23.000 And part of the thing that happened in 2020 is that the poll watchers, they didn't even know what law to cite to say, you can't kick us out because of this law.
00:27:32.000 When they said, okay, you have to leave.
00:27:34.000 Everyone has to leave.
00:27:36.000 They all left because they didn't.
00:27:38.000 I don't think anyone thought, well, they're going to just keep doing this all night.
00:27:42.000 This is so frustrating.
00:27:43.000 There's hundreds of millions of dollars that were supposed to be spent on this.
00:27:45.000 I know it is, it is crazy.
00:27:47.000 And there's still a lot of money being raised for this topic, right?
00:27:52.000 For this topic.
00:27:53.000 Yeah.
00:27:54.000 And, you know, that would be a whole other, whole other discussion.
00:27:58.000 But we're sitting there working to pull these together in the key states and do everything we can to equip and inform and educate the citizen activists so that they can prevent as much as possible from going wrong before votes are even cast and certainly before they're tabulated.
00:28:16.000 And find irregularities.
00:28:18.000 Right.
00:28:19.000 Right.
00:28:20.000 So, what are some of the other issues you're working on at Tea Party Patriots?
00:28:22.000 One of the big issues we've been working on, and you know this because we met up in July of 2020.
00:28:27.000 We both were working on this, ending the mandates.
00:28:30.000 You know, Charlie, it is time to every single state government, local government, and President Biden himself, they all need to stop the emergency, the emergency state.
00:28:41.000 It needs to be lifted.
00:28:42.000 And all of these mandates that happen under the emergencies, it's time to end.
00:28:47.000 We are not where we were two years ago when COVID was first breaking out in the world.
00:28:51.000 And the country is just broken, and it's going to continue to be broken until we are able to operate as we are supposed to be able to do as free citizens in this country.
00:29:02.000 They still have masks on kids in Georgia.
00:29:04.000 They have masks on kids in Georgia, but not on Cece Abrams.
00:29:07.000 Not on the school board members in Gwinnett County, but on the kids themselves.
00:29:12.000 But why aren't parents rising up more against this?
00:29:14.000 I don't understand.
00:29:15.000 There have been parents who've risen up.
00:29:17.000 And I think one thing that's really interesting, a lot of parents have just said, well, we're moving.
00:29:21.000 So in my county where I live, school opened back in August of 2020, like August 3rd, mask optional face-to-face learning.
00:29:31.000 And we've had a lot of people who move to our county who are like, we're just not doing this to our kids.
00:29:36.000 We're moving our kids altogether.
00:29:38.000 But parents need to rise up.
00:29:39.000 It is time to end this.
00:29:41.000 And that's why the trucker convoy that is going to happen here in America is so important.
00:29:48.000 So the truckers are going to be going to Coachella, where there's another defeat the mandates rally and event that's going to be happening on March 4th and 5th.
00:29:59.000 And they're going to be meeting in Coachella.
00:30:01.000 And then it's my understanding they're going to be leaving there to begin the convoy.
00:30:06.000 I've been in touch with Brian Brossi, who's one of the lead trucker organizers.
00:30:12.000 And they want it to be truckers, but they want every American to join in.
00:30:16.000 And they want the exact same thing.
00:30:18.000 The truckers in Canada are saying, end the mandates, all of them.
00:30:22.000 They want all of the mandates ended, whether it is a vaccine mandate or a mask mandate or healthy quarantine or needless testing when you aren't even showing symptoms, all of it to end.
00:30:33.000 Yeah, I mean, a trucker convoy across America would be extraordinary.
00:30:37.000 It would be extraordinary.
00:30:38.000 We'll have to join in for a while, won't we?
00:30:40.000 Going to Coachella.
00:30:41.000 And what's the website for Tea Party Patriots?
00:30:43.000 TeapartyPatriots.org, TeapartyPatriots.org.
00:30:47.000 TeapartyPatriots.org.
00:30:48.000 Everyone, check it out.
00:30:49.000 It's a great way to get engaged and get involved.
00:30:51.000 So what do you say to just an average citizen?
00:30:54.000 You've been doing this for a while.
00:30:56.000 You've been in kind of the citizen world for about 10 years that just say, I can't get involved.
00:31:02.000 I don't have time.
00:31:03.000 You know, what do you say?
00:31:04.000 Well, first I find out if they're angry about the way things are going or not.
00:31:07.000 You know, if they like the way America is, then okay, maybe you shouldn't get involved because we really don't want you to advocate for the mandates and other things going on.
00:31:17.000 I mean, you have a right to, but I want those gone.
00:31:20.000 But if they really care about what we care about and they're saying, well, I don't have time to get involved.
00:31:25.000 One of the things that we've done with Tea Party Patriots, we have a simple action item every single week.
00:31:30.000 If all you can do is get online and post something on social media and tag your elected member of Congress, then go do that.
00:31:36.000 It doesn't take very long or pick up the phone and make a phone call to your congressman, your senator, your state rep, and let them know how you feel about a particular issue.
00:31:47.000 That does not take very much time.
00:31:49.000 And if they really care, I say, well, if you want to save the Republic, it takes eternal vigilance.
00:31:55.000 It isn't something that we have with no citizen, no duties as a citizen.
00:32:02.000 And a lot of the school board movement you're seeing, does it remind you of the Tea Party movement back in 10 and 11?
00:32:07.000 It does.
00:32:07.000 It reminds me a lot of the Tea Party movement.
00:32:09.000 Their parents were very angry.
00:32:11.000 They're learning about the entire government process.
00:32:13.000 They haven't been engaged, especially at a local level before.
00:32:17.000 And even when they have been engaged with congressional issues, the local government functions much differently.
00:32:24.000 Like standing up in a school board meeting, it's not the same as a town hall meeting where you're congressman.
00:32:29.000 It's actually a government meeting.
00:32:32.000 But we're working to make sure that people have train people on what to do to go to their school board meetings and how to be engaged and how to be active.
00:32:43.000 And some of it, it's hard to do.
00:32:46.000 It takes time, especially if you're a busy parent working and having and you have children.
00:32:51.000 But if you care about your children's future and you want to make sure that the values that you are teaching your kids are not being undermined by the people they're around all day at school, you owe it to yourself to be involved.
00:33:04.000 Yeah, I mean, a lot of parents also just feel skittish, you know, so there, but there's more than one way to get involved.
00:33:10.000 Are you seeing a resurgence in more people that are just coming off the sidelines?
00:33:14.000 Absolutely.
00:33:15.000 We have seen such a resurgence.
00:33:16.000 In my county, I've been to quite a few, I've been to several of the school board meetings, and then I help the parents who and assist however they need help on the parents who are organizing there.
00:33:27.000 And they will have a couple hundred people, sometimes even up to a thousand people show up in a school board meeting.
00:33:33.000 That was unheard of two and a half years ago.
00:33:37.000 And in Georgia in particular, it's kind of become this battleground for all things, right?
00:33:42.000 It really has.
00:33:43.000 And Buckhead is thinking of trying to divest to its own city, and crime is up.
00:33:47.000 You know, where do you think Georgia's going heading into the midterms politically? 0.88
00:33:51.000 Well, I think that first we're going to have a really bloody bloody primary on our hands.
00:33:57.000 The governor's side.
00:33:58.000 The governor's side of the state.
00:33:58.000 The Senate looks like it's over.
00:33:59.000 I mean, yeah, I don't think that there will be much on the Senate.
00:34:03.000 And Vernon Jones just stepped away from the governor's race to run for Congress, but that kind of frees it up for a two-person primary.
00:34:11.000 Purdue versus Kemp, yeah.
00:34:12.000 Yeah.
00:34:13.000 And whoever becomes the nominee from that, they're focused on making sure that Stacey Abrams doesn't become governor because we don't want a socialist as a governor in Georgia.
00:34:23.000 A lot of people have realized that Stacey Abrams knows how to activate people and to organize.
00:34:28.000 She knows how to cheat. 1.00
00:34:29.000 And she, yeah, she knows how to cheat. 1.00
00:34:31.000 She knows how to cheat. 1.00
00:34:32.000 Yeah, she knows how to cheat. 1.00
00:34:33.000 And she knows how to, man, the left, they ran circles around the right when it came to chasing ballots, curing ballots, just being so engaged. 0.92
00:34:44.000 Yeah, but like, I mean, I get kind of cynical, Jenny Beth.
00:34:46.000 There was tons of money raised, but it was supposed to be handled.
00:34:49.000 You're right.
00:34:49.000 You're right.
00:34:50.000 What's going to change?
00:34:51.000 Well, all that I can say is what I know what we're going on.
00:34:55.000 I know.
00:34:55.000 That's the right answer.
00:34:56.000 You're right.
00:34:58.000 I know so many donors that went into their savings.
00:35:01.000 It's frustrating.
00:35:02.000 They gave money they didn't have to not have any sort of operation.
00:35:07.000 Right.
00:35:08.000 Well, and then my donors, so many of my donors are these small dollar donors who are giving $50 donations and they want that money used wisely.
00:35:18.000 And it's wrong to raise money from them without realizing the sacrifice some of them are making to try to help the cause.
00:35:26.000 That's exactly right.
00:35:27.000 So one minute remaining.
00:35:29.000 Georgia's on the line.
00:35:30.000 The country's on the line.
00:35:31.000 Are you optimistic?
00:35:32.000 I am optimistic.
00:35:34.000 Things are, it's not an easy, it's not an easy time at all, but I'm optimistic because so many people are taking action and they know they're angry, they're outraged at what happened in 2020, but they're not letting that outrage prevent them from being engaged.
00:35:49.000 And we're going to stop what happened in 2020 from happening again this next election cycle.
00:35:54.000 Teapartypatriots.org.
00:35:54.000 I love it.
00:35:56.000 That's right.
00:35:57.000 Jenny Beth, you're a great patriot.
00:35:57.000 I love it.
00:35:58.000 You're activating people all across the country in the grassroots.
00:36:01.000 It's so important.
00:36:02.000 And if you're hearing this, everybody, you have to get involved.
00:36:05.000 You have to get involved at some level, state, local, federal.
00:36:08.000 It really has to be a citizen-led movement.
00:36:10.000 And Jenny Beth, you're doing a great, great job making that happen.
00:36:13.000 Thank you.
00:36:13.000 Thank you so much.
00:36:14.000 Thanks.
00:36:17.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
00:36:19.000 Email us your thoughts as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
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00:36:26.000 God bless.
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