The Charlie Kirk Show - Gen Z Christians, College Scams, and Church Censorship—LIVE Student Q+A from Flashpoint

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00:01:12.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:45.000 Hey, everybody.

00:01:48.000 All right.

00:01:48.000 So this is rapid fire.

00:01:50.000 So Gabe and Tyler, we over this corner of the stage.

00:01:53.000 If you've got a question, go ahead and start moving over to this area if you've got a question.

00:01:59.000 But I want to start because I just read some of the college scam.

00:02:04.000 So tell us a little bit about that.

00:02:06.000 Tell us of the origin of the college scam and give us kind of a synopsis of what it looks like.

00:02:12.000 First, honor to be here.

00:02:13.000 Thank you, everybody, for spending your time on a weekend here.

00:02:15.000 We're going to have a lot of fun.

00:02:16.000 So yeah, I have a new book that just came out last week called The College Scam.

00:02:20.000 Just getting straight to the point.

00:02:21.000 I know a lot of you are high schooler soon-to-be college students, already college students.

00:02:25.000 But look, I say in the book that we have way too many people to went to college and that, I mean, I'm sure if I asked you how many of you know people that dropped out of college, all your hands would go up.

00:02:34.000 40% of people that enroll in college drop out.

00:02:36.000 And then on top of that, 41% of people that end up graduating, if they find a job, they'll find a job in a career that doesn't require a college degree.

00:02:45.000 And so it asks the question of why are we sending so many kids to four-year college in the first place?

00:02:49.000 I'm sure a lot of you say, well, my parents are making me or it's just kind of something I was guided to do.

00:02:54.000 Well, that's not a good reason to go borrow $200,000 to go fill your head with bad ideas to learn or hate yourself, hate the country, and believe there's no God.

00:03:00.000 That's actually a scam.

00:03:01.000 And so look, some people should go to college, obviously.

00:03:03.000 Nurse, doctor, lawyer, pick the best college you can, graduate as quickly as possible.

00:03:08.000 But we need more welders, electricians, carpenters, police officers, entrepreneurs, people that work with their hands.

00:03:13.000 But there's a problem with that, which is that if you don't go to college, I didn't, you're treated as if you're not the same sort of intelligence level, the same sort of ability to have a conversation.

00:03:23.000 We look down on people that don't go to college in America.

00:03:26.000 That's wrong.

00:03:27.000 I make the argument in the book that college is making our generation more miserable, more depressed, more anxious, more medicated, more alcohol-addicted, more drug-addicted, overweight, less likely to love America.

00:03:38.000 Besides that, it's a wonderful place.

00:03:41.000 And so, yeah, I mean, look, again, there's exceptions to all of it.

00:03:44.000 I'm sure some of you have wonderful college experiences.

00:03:45.000 Some of you have terrible college experiences.

00:03:48.000 What I do in the book is I talk about the moving average, right?

00:03:51.000 I don't talk about exceptions.

00:03:52.000 I talk about generally what's happening.

00:03:54.000 And that is a general truth, is that college has ripped so many kids off and have forced you to go into so many classes you don't want to take, to go to learn from professors who hate you, to teach you things that do not matter, that are completely opposite of what it means to live a flourishing and beautiful life.

00:04:10.000 And so I said we should have enough.

00:04:12.000 I mean, we shut down industries because there are scams all the time.

00:04:15.000 We shut down Bernie Madoff.

00:04:16.000 I think that colleges need to be investigated for running a RICO operation against our nation's young people.

00:04:22.000 I believe that if we're going to do any sort of form of student loan forgiveness, we should force the college to pay for the student loan forgiveness and get rid of their massive hundreds of billions of dollars endowments.

00:04:31.000 For example, if any of you go to the UT system, you know they're sitting on $55 billion in cash called the University of Texas Investment basically called UTIMCO endowment.

00:04:42.000 Why don't they pay for your tuition for a year instead of when you have to go to UT Arlington or UT Austin?

00:04:48.000 That's not fair.

00:04:48.000 That's a moral question.

00:04:50.000 So I'm happy to dive into that more.

00:04:51.000 Books out, college scam.

00:04:53.000 I put the entire college industry on trial.

00:04:56.000 And basically what I want to do is for those of you that know college is not the right decision for you, I want to encourage you and destigmify, basically, destigmatize, I should say, this idea of not going to college.

00:05:06.000 Everyone's different.

00:05:07.000 Everyone makes their own choices, but we shouldn't look down on people just because they don't have a very expensive piece of paper.

00:05:12.000 Absolutely.

00:05:12.000 That's good.

00:05:13.000 All right, we've got some questions over here.

00:05:14.000 Ty, this was our first question.

00:05:17.000 Give me a bunch of questions.

00:05:18.000 Give me your name.

00:05:19.000 I'm Jay Gordolani from Massachusetts.

00:05:21.000 Wow.

00:05:22.000 Yeah.

00:05:23.000 What is your question, Jay Gordalani?

00:05:24.000 I've noticed it's hard to distinguish rhinos from true Republicans.

00:05:28.000 So could you talk a little bit about how to just identify rhinos quicker?

00:05:32.000 Yeah, that's a great question.

00:05:33.000 So you just have to ask the question, basically, what time is it, right?

00:05:37.000 So if people are just kind of talking as if it's still the 1980s where stock market's going up and real estate's going up and they're unwilling to talk about the real issues concretely in front of us, then I think they want to go be a politician than actually go do something as a politician.

00:05:53.000 As a general rule, I think very low of politicians, quite honestly, whenever they come on my show, we always have some fun, respectfully, but rather directly, I guess you could say.

00:06:03.000 Why we're spending $56 billion on a proxy war in Ukraine is insane to me, while our nation's young people are literally killing themselves more than any other generation in American history.

00:06:12.000 And so I'm really tired of politicians kind of giving the same one soundbite and the same things over and over again.

00:06:18.000 So there's really some simple questions you can ask politicians, which is, do you think the southern border matters more than the Ukrainian-Russian border?

00:06:24.000 And if they're unwilling to answer that question, like you're a complete waste of time, actually.

00:06:29.000 And then finally, are you willing to use political power to improve the well-being of your voters?

00:06:34.000 That's a very simple question, which is who do you serve, right?

00:06:37.000 Do you serve some sort of special interest or do you actually serve your constituency?

00:06:42.000 I'm not pro-Republican at all.

00:06:44.000 I'm very conservative, but I think the Republican Party does a miserable job of representing younger voters.

00:06:49.000 Happy to talk about that more if you want.

00:06:50.000 Let me ask you this, because you mentioned that this generation is killing themselves at a higher level.

00:06:55.000 What do you think the cause of that is?

00:06:56.000 There's a spiritual decay, obviously, but this is kind of where it ties into my thesis of college.

00:07:02.000 We have the least religious, least church generation, least married generation, and we're on the verge of a population collapse.

00:07:08.000 And one of the things we've done more is we've sent our most prized possession, our young people, to go to college where they encourage godlessness.

00:07:14.000 They encourage a spiritually devoid lifestyle.

00:07:17.000 Now, some people have wonderful, enriched spiritual lives if they go to college, but in general, spirituality and religion and Christianity is frowned upon on most American universities.

00:07:27.000 In fact, pleasure is the ultimate goal on most American universities.

00:07:31.000 So that's one reason.

00:07:32.000 Number two, I think phones play a huge role in it.

00:07:33.000 I call it digital heroin.

00:07:35.000 I believe our smartphone.

00:07:37.000 I think we have the largest open-air drug experiment happening in human history right now.

00:07:42.000 And most parents and adults have no idea really what they've done by deploying 250 million devices in the hands of multiple young people, what it does to dopamine reactor, serotonin, the ability for the brain to form neurologically absent immediate interventions.

00:07:57.000 I myself turn my phone off from Friday to Saturday night.

00:07:59.000 I do my best to keep my screen time to 90 minutes a day.

00:08:02.000 It'll make you happier and less anxious, by the way.

00:08:04.000 I'm telling you, just a good rule for life.

00:08:06.000 These devices are designed to make you hate yourself.

00:08:10.000 That might sound like an over-exaggeration.

00:08:12.000 There's a reason why Steve Jobs didn't allow his kids to ever look at an iPad.

00:08:15.000 He knew what it was.

00:08:16.000 The creators of these devices don't allow any of their kids to look at them.

00:08:19.000 So that's one of the other reasons.

00:08:20.000 Number two, I think we're way over-medicated in America.

00:08:23.000 We push pills on kids that do not need them.

00:08:26.000 I believe ADD and ADHD is way overdiagnosed.

00:08:29.000 In fact, I very well could have been in that pool.

00:08:31.000 Just have a lot of energy, okay?

00:08:33.000 Kids figure it out.

00:08:34.000 You don't need to give Riddle in just because he wants to sit still. 1.00

00:08:37.000 The American education system is hyper-feminine.

00:08:40.000 I don't mean that in a derogatory way, but young boys have much more difficulty sitting still.

00:08:45.000 And they may be doing things that are much more involved than just sitting and listening to a teacher kind of drone on for eight hours a day.

00:08:50.000 So we're way too medicated.

00:08:52.000 We have 6 million kids, more or less, under the age of 18 on SSRIs or benzodiazepans or on Xanax or on Ritalin, which is some very, very powerful psychiatric drugs that kids are on.

00:09:04.000 And I think that's a huge problem over-prescribing that.

00:09:08.000 And then finally, we just have a massive cultural decay happening in our country where nihilism is kind of the kind of the fruit of the season, I guess you could say.

00:09:18.000 Nihilism is the belief that there is no beauty, no goodness, no truth, only pleasure.

00:09:23.000 And I think our leaders do a very poor job of articulating that there is an amazing life ahead of young people that does require discipline.

00:09:32.000 I believe discipline actually brings you to freedom.

00:09:35.000 That's a biblical principle.

00:09:37.000 And then, yeah, finally, we have an 18-year-old generation, 18 to 22 right now, which I know some of you are, that have been able to get everything they want whenever they want it, how they want it.

00:09:45.000 We're not designed that way.

00:09:47.000 So God designed us, I believe, to be able to exist in primitive conditions, to be in nature.

00:09:54.000 That actually means some days not getting exactly what you want, how you want it.

00:09:58.000 We have an entire generation that never has to really work or apply themselves through discipline.

00:10:04.000 And your brains aren't wired for that.

00:10:05.000 You're actually supposed to have bad days.

00:10:07.000 You're supposed to go without an immediate dopamine rush of chocolate or pornography or whatever it might be that might be giving you that rush. 0.97

00:10:14.000 You are overheating your primitive brain that God designed.

00:10:18.000 And we wonder why 20-year-olds are killing themselves more than other generations in history.

00:10:22.000 So I wish politicians would talk about this stuff instead.

00:10:25.000 They're too busy sending money to Ukraine.

00:10:28.000 Next question.

00:10:29.000 That's good.

00:10:29.000 I was personally categorized with ADHD, and teachers would go crazy on me just because I wanted to have fun in life.

00:10:35.000 So I know exactly how that means.

00:10:36.000 I'm here with Ian.

00:10:38.000 What's your question?

00:10:40.000 As a 25-year-old, what would be your advice as somebody who wants to get into politics as in running for local offices or even higher offices?

00:10:50.000 Yeah, great question.

00:10:51.000 I fully support civic engagement.

00:10:52.000 You've got to do the tough work for at least a year.

00:10:54.000 So knock on doors.

00:10:55.000 You've got to show up at the local Republican meetings.

00:10:58.000 It drives me nuts when people are like, I want to be a social media influencer.

00:11:01.000 Like, yeah, you got to go knock on 100,000 doors before I take you seriously.

00:11:04.000 You know, that's how I got, that's how I cut my teeth in politics in the suburbs of Chicago.

00:11:08.000 You want to learn a lot about yourself?

00:11:09.000 Go knock on doors for a Republican conservative in the suburbs of Chicago and have to talk to people about it.

00:11:15.000 You learn a lot about your ideas, a lot.

00:11:18.000 You're like, I want to be famous.

00:11:19.000 Like, okay, no.

00:11:21.000 I mean, you're not going to make a difference. 0.94

00:11:22.000 You'll be actually super miserable.

00:11:24.000 Like, go do the work.

00:11:25.000 And then all of a sudden, you could realize that maybe I have something to say.

00:11:28.000 I have an experience worth sharing.

00:11:30.000 So that's what I would recommend.

00:11:32.000 And then if you really want to, here's the good thing about politics and the bad thing about politics.

00:11:36.000 The good thing is politics is a pure meritocracy.

00:11:39.000 No one cares who went to college.

00:11:41.000 No one cares.

00:11:42.000 All they care about is: are you willing to do the work?

00:11:44.000 Are you willing to apply yourself?

00:11:46.000 You know, all those sorts of things.

00:11:47.000 The bad thing about politics is that it's super nasty.

00:11:50.000 It could be devoid of purpose.

00:11:52.000 And so you just got to know that kind of going in.

00:11:54.000 So just apply yourself, do the work.

00:11:56.000 That's my recommendation.

00:11:58.000 And then just be willing to say yes to whatever people need help from.

00:12:01.000 So following that up, we were at the Student Action Summit last week, and several of us said, you did a panel with a few young politicians, some folks that are running for public office now.

00:12:10.000 What do you see in them that sets them apart, that is really pushing them to be successful in their constituencies and the places where they're running?

00:12:18.000 Yeah, so there were three candidates who were brought to you by Turning Point Action.

00:12:21.000 It was Anthony Sabatini, Anna Paulina, and Caroline Levitt.

00:12:24.000 They're all in their 20s or early 30s.

00:12:27.000 Well, first, obviously they're younger, so that really interests me.

00:12:30.000 That means they're looking at data differently.

00:12:32.000 They understand the sense of urgency where we're kind of sitting on this generational time bomb, where I'm so sick and tired, no offense to anyone in the audience, of baby boomers telling young people, just work harder. 0.98

00:12:41.000 Yeah, okay, you shut down the entire country for two years and forced an experimental gene therapy called a vaccine on us.

00:12:47.000 Made us wear masks all the time.

00:12:48.000 I know everything's three times as more expensive than it was before the lockdown.

00:12:51.000 Like we're working really hard.

00:12:52.000 Actually, we're getting poorer because you decided to go print $7 trillion we don't have and then go point your finger at young people.

00:12:58.000 Like maybe you should sit this one out for maybe a couple of years.

00:13:01.000 And so, yeah, that's one thing they understand is that Anthony Sabatini, Caroline Levitt, Anna Paulina, from a conservative perspective, I think understand the generational tension that exists.

00:13:11.000 And we should have respect for our elders, of course.

00:13:14.000 With that being said, there are challenges facing this generation that humanity has never faced before.

00:13:21.000 And the answer is not the Green New Deal or open borders, whatever AOC talks about.

00:13:26.000 Answer should always point towards virtue and goodness and things that are always true.

00:13:31.000 Like getting married and having children, like going to church, like having a fulfilling relationship with your creator.

00:13:37.000 That's what excites me about those candidates, right?

00:13:39.000 They want to put their constituents first.

00:13:41.000 They're willing to talk about these generational implications.

00:13:44.000 And I just don't get that from a lot of other candidates.

00:13:46.000 They're like, well, what we need is lower taxes.

00:13:49.000 Like, okay, that's fine.

00:13:50.000 You need to make money in order for people to actually care about lower taxes. 0.53

00:13:53.000 And this generation can't pay the rent.

00:13:55.000 They can't afford Netflix or Hulu, let alone buy a second home in Lake Travis, okay?

00:14:01.000 Like, maybe we should worry about how to get this generation richer.

00:14:04.000 And that's not through the kind of what we've been doing the last couple decades.

00:14:08.000 So that's good.

00:14:09.000 Next question.

00:14:10.000 We've got a question from Christian.

00:14:11.000 Yes.

00:14:12.000 How can you have a democracy or republic without a moral society?

00:14:16.000 Or can you?

00:14:17.000 And if you can't, how do you expect to change it without the education system?

00:14:23.000 Such a smart question.

00:14:24.000 So we're not a democracy, but we do have elements of a democracy.

00:14:27.000 The difference between a democracy and a republic are super important.

00:14:31.000 People say we're a democracy.

00:14:32.000 We're not.

00:14:33.000 A democracy means by a yes or no vote, the population could take rights away from the minority.

00:14:39.000 That is not the way a republic works.

00:14:40.000 A republic is that there are things that are always true that are built into your system, built on wisdom, built on prudence, built on tradition.

00:14:47.000 For example, freedom of speech, freedom to defend yourself, freedom of privacy from the government.

00:14:52.000 A democracy, you'd be able to have an up or down vote, 51%, and say, you know what, these people shouldn't be able to talk.

00:14:58.000 So that's just a super important distinction.

00:15:00.000 But you're right.

00:15:01.000 You actually said both.

00:15:02.000 So to your credit.

00:15:05.000 We are verging on the edge of unsustainability as a civilization.

00:15:09.000 Our entire system of government was built for a moral and righteous people.

00:15:12.000 In fact, John Adams said that.

00:15:14.000 He said the Constitution was written wholly for a moral and religious people.

00:15:18.000 It's completely inadequate for the society of any other.

00:15:21.000 I'm paraphrasing the second part of the quote.

00:15:23.000 And that's really important.

00:15:25.000 So think about it.

00:15:26.000 We have a system that relies on self-government.

00:15:28.000 Hey, Lance, how are you doing?

00:15:29.000 And that without the ability for people to govern themselves, then all of a sudden you're going to want a bigger and bigger government to kind of come in and then make decisions for you.

00:15:39.000 So, for example, self-government is great if you have strong families.

00:15:43.000 So, a strong family is the greatest hedge against big government.

00:15:46.000 If you think about it, right?

00:15:48.000 Your aunt might be able to help you guys pay for rent one month, or if someone gets sick, you could take care of one another.

00:15:53.000 Disconnected, smaller families invite government into your life, right? 1.00

00:15:59.000 And so, it makes it easier all of a sudden to take your liberties away and your freedoms away.

00:16:04.000 And so, without the education system, here's what we have to do: we have to start to build new things.

00:16:08.000 That's what we're trying to do at Turning Point USA.

00:16:10.000 We're doing it at Turning Point Academy, TPUSA Faith.

00:16:13.000 You guys are doing it wonderfully here at The Bridge and at Flashpoint, which is, okay, we don't control the government schools.

00:16:19.000 We know that we're in this deficit.

00:16:21.000 Then, we have to channel our entrepreneurial creative activity to be able to build ambitious and bold and new things, which is more schools, larger families, bigger churches, more ministries.

00:16:31.000 So, this is a debate that goes on in Christian circles a lot, which is where does eschatology play a role in this?

00:16:36.000 Lance and I have had this discussion before.

00:16:39.000 Look, some people are pre-trib, some people are post-trib, right?

00:16:42.000 Some people focus on Romans 1 and they think it's all happening right now.

00:16:46.000 It might be true, right?

00:16:47.000 So, I'm pan-trib.

00:16:48.000 It's all going to pan out in the end.

00:16:51.000 But I say that jokingly by Jesus said, occupy till he comes.

00:16:56.000 And I do not think our eschatology can be an excuse not to build new, ambitious, and bold things.

00:17:01.000 In fact, the time and the hour is unknown.

00:17:03.000 Jesus is very clear about that.

00:17:05.000 In fact, he says only God knows the time or the hour.

00:17:08.000 It's a mystery.

00:17:09.000 We should look for the signs of the times as he commands us.

00:17:12.000 But I think some Christians get into this: hey, the house is on fire.

00:17:16.000 Let's get our kids out.

00:17:17.000 It's the end times, which is, well, why don't you put the fire out and go build a bigger fire-resistant house and do whatever you possibly can for right now?

00:17:26.000 It's tempting to want to run to the hills and be like, Jesus is going to zap me up soon.

00:17:31.000 You might be right, but then Jesus says, What do you want to be caught doing?

00:17:35.000 And paraphrase, that's essentially what he said: is do you want to be caught running away from the problem or leaning into the problem?

00:17:35.000 Right?

00:17:41.000 Right?

00:17:42.000 So, that's something if Christians, and my personal opinion, I think, came to kind of a peace agreement on our eschatology, which is we can have those debates.

00:17:50.000 I'm not the person to talk about that, right?

00:17:52.000 You could talk to a theologian or pastor.

00:17:55.000 The more operative question is, what do you do regardless?

00:17:58.000 Build.

00:17:58.000 You empower young people.

00:18:00.000 And if every Christian church got that mentality, we could take this country back for virtue and righteousness in one generation. 0.97

00:18:08.000 Thank you.

00:18:08.000 So, talking about, great answer.

00:18:11.000 Talking about churches and the decay of church and what that looks like, how do you think that a global pandemic for two years affected specifically Generation Z and their engagement with religious communities and specifically with Christian churches?

00:18:25.000 Such a good question.

00:18:26.000 And so, we have to talk about this properly.

00:18:28.000 So, there's a pandemic and then there's our reaction to the pandemic.

00:18:32.000 So, some people say, you know, this pandemic really hurt young people.

00:18:35.000 No, it didn't.

00:18:36.000 Actually, it's how you reacted to the pandemic that hurt young people.

00:18:39.000 We acted imprudently, we acted immaturely, we acted ahistorically in a way where all of a sudden, for the first time in human history that I can think of, the older generation decided to sacrifice the young for their own well-being.

00:18:54.000 That is so perverse, everybody.

00:18:56.000 Where it's like, let's shut down schools because they might infect grandma.

00:18:59.000 Like, okay, I don't want grandma to be infected. 0.96

00:19:01.000 Maybe they could have nine months where they just Zoom with each other.

00:19:04.000 What's more important?

00:19:04.000 Have kids go to school than shut down the entire society.

00:19:09.000 And so, what's the reaction to that?

00:19:11.000 I mean, every marker of a, let's say, society that's going in the wrong direction is up.

00:19:17.000 Every single one, I went through it.

00:19:18.000 Depression is up, psychiatric medication is up, prescriptions are up, suicide is up, violent crime is up.

00:19:25.000 And then, what are the things that we actually care about that are down?

00:19:27.000 Marriage rates are down, you know, childbirth is down, and I don't want to blame it all on the lockdowns, but it played a huge role.

00:19:35.000 What we did was the worst combination, which said, okay, we're going to lock down the entire society and then have kids stare at their screens all day long.

00:19:42.000 And then, you know what's so interesting to me, and this is completely anecdotal.

00:19:45.000 I love your guys' thoughts, is that when I go to airports, more young people are wearing masks than older people.

00:19:52.000 Is that this spirit of fear?

00:19:53.000 I don't know if you guys agree or not, but at least that's been my experience.

00:19:56.000 This spirit of fear has infected these young people.

00:19:59.000 And what's so interesting, and I'm stereotyping right now, and that's...

00:20:02.000 You shouldn't do that, but I'm going to do it anyway, which is that the type of people that are there, I'm like, you don't even love life.

00:20:07.000 Like, you hate your life and you're worried to die.

00:20:10.000 Like, how can you end up...

00:20:13.000 And again, but it's just kind of an overgeneralization, but at least when I went to Berkeley, these people are telling me through their masks, life is terrible.

00:20:20.000 Like, don't infect me.

00:20:20.000 It's awful.

00:20:22.000 Man, that's so weird, right?

00:20:25.000 And it's an idea pathogen no different than the virus itself, which is, look, life involves risk.

00:20:31.000 Okay?

00:20:32.000 Driving here is a risk.

00:20:33.000 Being around people is a risk.

00:20:35.000 You could all get a virus.

00:20:36.000 When did we ever tell a generation that you can saran wrap yourself where two masks when you shower and somehow that's going to prevent you from infection?

00:20:45.000 Look, let me be very clear.

00:20:47.000 For some people, COVID is something you should worry about, right?

00:20:51.000 And if you're super overweight and you're old and you have underlying health conditions, but then what we did was the worst possible thing, which is we suppressed all of the information on how to treat it.

00:21:01.000 And then we said, oh yeah, just go get the vaccine.

00:21:03.000 I mean, how many times is Joe Biden going to get COVID?

00:21:05.000 Like 42 times?

00:21:06.000 Well, you know, maybe this is not the best thing for it.

00:21:08.000 You get COVID twice in a week.

00:21:11.000 And by the way, all of the treatments, like, I don't know, vitamin D and a baby aspirin or ivermectin or azithromycin, which, by the way, you all know that they work because you've seen friends that actually use those interventions.

00:21:23.000 And I know I've seen it actually save people's lives completely suppressed from the top down.

00:21:28.000 So my one hope for this entire thing is that it leads to a I'll never forget moment of people that are like, you know what?

00:21:34.000 I'm going to be able to invest in self-government.

00:21:36.000 I'm not going to trust these people anymore.

00:21:38.000 But it's done unbelievable damage to this generation.

00:21:41.000 So there's one or two ways we can handle it.

00:21:43.000 It's really quick.

00:21:44.000 We can play this generation as a bunch of victims. 0.99

00:21:46.000 Like we deserve free stuff.

00:21:47.000 We're terrible.

00:21:48.000 Or we're going to say, you know what?

00:21:49.000 Now we're going to be in charge.

00:21:51.000 We want to be empowered.

00:21:52.000 We want to live a beautiful and true life and a life in pursuit of beauty and truth.

00:21:56.000 And we're going to never forget this.

00:21:58.000 And we're going to build something meaningful because of it.

00:22:01.000 So good.

00:22:01.000 You guys got a question?

00:22:02.000 I'm here with Kenneth.

00:22:03.000 Hey, so I have a question about citizenship.

00:22:06.000 For the students that are on DACA and anyone else that has come over illegally but had families or had children here, what do you recommend the path to citizenship would be?

00:22:16.000 Yeah, I'm going to say something that will be a thought crime.

00:22:19.000 None.

00:22:19.000 So I believe they should be nicely sent back to the country of origin.

00:22:24.000 And some people say that's harsh and insensitive.

00:22:26.000 Well, then what laws do you not want to currently enforce then?

00:22:30.000 The law is transparent, must be public, and it must be enforced.

00:22:34.000 They were brought, I would say, almost kidnapped across the border by people that illegally came into our country. 1.00

00:22:39.000 They knew they were breaking the law when they did that.

00:22:42.000 And so a citizenship law must be applied equally, and dare I say equitably.

00:22:47.000 And look, let me give you an example.

00:22:49.000 If someone comes from Tokyo to San Francisco and overstays their visa, do they have a moral right to stay here?

00:22:54.000 No, of course not.

00:22:55.000 We have laws.

00:22:57.000 They're well publicized.

00:22:58.000 I don't think we should have had in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:23:01.000 I don't think we should have had driver's license for illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:23:04.000 And, you know, some, if I were to go to Switzerland and just say, you know, I overstay my visa and I should stay here, they'd deport you immediately.

00:23:11.000 We're the only country in the world where your location is somehow correlated with your quote-unquote citizenship.

00:23:17.000 Now, some people say, well, Charlie, how does that correlate with your Christian values, right?

00:23:23.000 Well, it's very clear that when you're designing laws around who's in your country, assimilation is operative, right? 0.97

00:23:29.000 And if you do not enforce the law equally, as it says very clearly in Leviticus, by the way, you favor no one, the rich man or the poor one, when it comes to administration of the law.

00:23:39.000 And so that's how I stand on this.

00:23:41.000 But let me say one final thing, which is that when we talk about immigration, you must always ask the question, which is, does it benefit the country at large, right?

00:23:50.000 And people will say, well, Charlie, by no fault of their own, they are here.

00:23:54.000 Okay, then you can go back and reapply for citizenship like the Vietnamese. 0.99

00:23:58.000 or the Indians or the Chinese have to do.

00:24:00.000 And so that's my position on that.

00:24:02.000 I think we've way moved the Overton window on immigration in this country to the detriment of the rule of law.

00:24:08.000 Thank you.

00:24:08.000 That's good.

00:24:09.000 Next question.

00:24:10.000 I actually have a question.

00:24:10.000 Oh, go ahead.

00:24:11.000 So how do you deal, or anything people should deal with censorship?

00:24:15.000 As you have all these platforms, you're speaking this stuff.

00:24:18.000 But I interviewed Dr. Stella, who came out during the pandemic, and she had the thing about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

00:24:24.000 If you post her, you get banned.

00:24:26.000 Like if you post the truth, you get banned.

00:24:28.000 So how do you, what alternative ways are there to get the message out there?

00:24:31.000 Because censorship is real.

00:24:33.000 Yeah, there's new platforms that are emerging that I think are really exciting that allow kind of free speech and discussion to happen.

00:24:40.000 But this is happening so much.

00:24:41.000 And I mean, we did this whole thing on ivermectin and we got shut down.

00:24:45.000 And look, part of it is that we have to go build new platforms, support platforms like Rumble, support all these kind of new channels.

00:24:52.000 I think it's super important.

00:24:54.000 And so Truth Social or Getter and all these other ones.

00:24:58.000 But I'll say one other thing about censorship, which is they need censorship to be able to control us.

00:25:04.000 Absent censorship, I believe 90% of their power completely deteriorates, truly.

00:25:09.000 And so it also begs the question, which is who, how afraid are they of our ideas that they have to try to go and shut us up?

00:25:17.000 By the way, it's not just on the COVID stuff, right?

00:25:19.000 It's on a multitude of other issues.

00:25:22.000 I mean, James Lindsay just got shut down from Twitter for saying, okay, groomer, right?

00:25:27.000 No, my favorite is that the Twitter account Days Against Groomers got shut down, which, by the way, you know, I fully support that movement of, you know, people in the homosexual community say, you know, we don't support grooming of children. 0.66

00:25:39.000 Twitter's like, no, there's no place for dissent.

00:25:41.000 That's interesting.

00:25:43.000 And so how do you push back against it? 0.93

00:25:45.000 You got to go to other platforms and try to navigate the rules as silly as they are. 0.86

00:25:49.000 That's good. 0.93

00:25:50.000 Next question.

00:25:51.000 Bouncing off of that.

00:25:52.000 What would you say to the censorship of everyone afraid themselves of the culture surrounding them?

00:25:57.000 Like people that aren't even on platforms like ourselves.

00:26:00.000 Sure.

00:26:00.000 Yeah, and this is something that probably applies to a lot of you in this room, which is censorship, the most cruel form of censorship happening in America is you shutting up you.

00:26:12.000 And that happens every day.

00:26:13.000 So forget Facebook, forget Google, that's all bad.

00:26:16.000 But I'm sure there's some people in this room that you're like, boy, if someone found out I was listening to this speech at my job, I would get fired.

00:26:23.000 Like just showing up to a speech or someone like, boy, if they found out I was a conservative or a Christian.

00:26:27.000 And so what I want for our nation's young people is what I have, which is I get to be the same person in public that I am in private.

00:26:35.000 You know, someone said, you know, Charlie, what are your private thoughts?

00:26:38.000 I'm like, you're hearing all of them, right?

00:26:40.000 I get to be the exact same person.

00:26:42.000 Not everyone has that ability because of the threat of termination, the threat of losing friends.

00:26:48.000 And so I believe you actually take power away from the censors.

00:26:51.000 This is one of the things why I refuse to apologize or back down unless it's something I actually did wrong, which people say all the time.

00:26:58.000 They say, you know, Charlie, do you apologize for this remark?

00:27:01.000 People are really fired up about it.

00:27:02.000 Well, no, I mean, I'm sorry to some extent that they are so weak in that way, but I'm not sorry I said it, right?

00:27:09.000 I hope they get stronger.

00:27:10.000 If I said something wrong, that I really reflect on and pray about.

00:27:14.000 But you shouldn't shut yourself up just because someone gets triggered, everybody.

00:27:18.000 You've got to stop doing that.

00:27:19.000 I don't know if you're doing that or not, but if any of you are.

00:27:21.000 And some of you, look, you have to be prudent about it, right?

00:27:24.000 Some of you are probably saying, I'd get fired from my job immediately if I said something like this.

00:27:29.000 Yeah, look, you got to put food on the table, you got to pay rent.

00:27:32.000 I understand all that.

00:27:33.000 But long term, try to find a career where you can be that person that is openly able to speak out because you will be a deeply troubled person at a fundamental level if you always have to worry about who's listening to you.

00:27:46.000 So there's plenty of jobs out there.

00:27:48.000 There's careers where you could do that.

00:27:49.000 That would be my recommendation.

00:27:50.000 So my big censorship regime I'm trying to stop is people shutting up themselves.

00:27:54.000 That's great.

00:27:55.000 That's good.

00:27:56.000 Power back to yourself.

00:27:57.000 I'm here with Andy.

00:27:59.000 And what's your question?

00:28:01.000 So, as a young adult pastor, I want to know how to awaken my generation to make talking about politics in church not taboo, that they would much rather leave it to the government and stay neutral.

00:28:13.000 What would be your advice on that?

00:28:14.000 Yeah, it's a great question.

00:28:15.000 So I believe we as Christians are commanded to care about our political leaders and to care about politics.

00:28:20.000 It says very clearly in Jeremiah, Jeremiah 29, 7, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.

00:28:28.000 That's the Lord speaking.

00:28:29.000 And also, and so some pastors will say, hey, look, we don't do politics around here.

00:28:34.000 You know, nowhere in the Bible does it say we should get involved in politics.

00:28:37.000 Well, I'll just give you that one verse.

00:28:38.000 But also, would they get rid of Daniel, Mordecai, Jeremiah, Esther, not to mention Nehemiah, all the figures of the Old Testament that try to influence secular government for God's purpose?

00:28:50.000 We are called to be counselors to the king.

00:28:52.000 And so then some people say, well, I don't do politics.

00:28:54.000 And you have to ask a question, which is, well, do you do morality?

00:28:58.000 Well, no, I don't do morality.

00:29:00.000 Okay, then you're not a pastor.

00:29:01.000 Get out of the way.

00:29:02.000 Because very clearly, the Bible talks about things that are right and that are wrong, things that are good and that are evil.

00:29:08.000 And so where does, if you expect politicians and politics to do things that are good, by what definition of good are you using?

00:29:16.000 The secular humanist definition of good, where they think it's okay to expose yourself to eight-year-old children or to chemically castrate 11-year-olds?

00:29:23.000 If not Christians, then who will influence the government? 1.00

00:29:27.000 And they say, well, you know, we all kind of have a definition of what good is. 1.00

00:29:30.000 That is rubbish.

00:29:32.000 You do not know a line is crooked if you do not have a straight line to compare it to. 0.98

00:29:36.000 The Bible is the source of all agreed-upon morality in Western civilization.

00:29:40.000 You go to any other country, go to India for an afternoon, and this idea of private property, of the weak being protected by the strong, they have no such tradition in that civilization.

00:29:50.000 Only a spoiled, privileged generation could believe that.

00:29:54.000 Well, everyone believes stuff like this.

00:29:56.000 I mean, come on, it's natural.

00:29:57.000 No, it's not.

00:29:58.000 It's not natural to say that someone with strength should go out of their way to protect someone that isn't as strong.

00:30:03.000 That is a bedrock biblical principle.

00:30:06.000 It's built into all of our laws here in Western civilization.

00:30:08.000 It's not actually in India, for example, they have an entire class called the Untouchables, of which you are allowed to not administer medical care if you don't want to. 1.00

00:30:17.000 In America, we have built in our tradition that everyone receives medical care regardless of your income level if you walk into a hospital.

00:30:23.000 Where did that law come from exactly?

00:30:26.000 And if you study biblical principles in Western civilization, you recognize that we are the recipients of Christians caring.

00:30:33.000 55 out of 56 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Bible-believing church-attending Christians.

00:30:38.000 The first great awakening led to the founding of America from Wesley to Edwards to Whitfield.

00:30:44.000 And so now we are the privileged Christians that get to say, thanks for your sacrifice, Christians that stormed Normandy Beach.

00:30:52.000 Now I'm going to choose not to care.

00:30:56.000 That is the opposite of being a good steward as Christ commands us to be.

00:31:00.000 So I would just lean right into it as a pastor.

00:31:02.000 The more controversial, the better.

00:31:05.000 I would just say, like, hey, what do you guys think about homosexuality?

00:31:08.000 What does the Bible say?

00:31:09.000 What do you guys think about transgenderism?

00:31:11.000 Always go back to the Bible as your source. 1.00

00:31:13.000 Now, let me be clear.

00:31:14.000 Politics is not the most important thing a pastor should be talking about.

00:31:18.000 I say this all the time.

00:31:19.000 The most important thing that you focus on is the gospel of Jesus Christ and getting people into heaven.

00:31:24.000 That is number one.

00:31:25.000 Now, the second most important thing, in my opinion, is to make sure you can do the first thing.

00:31:29.000 To make sure that the church never gets locked down again.

00:31:32.000 To make sure that strip clubs don't remain open, get Easter service gets deemed and demonized.

00:31:36.000 I'll give you an example of how twisted our culture is.

00:31:39.000 And if this offends somebody, you're in the right place, I guess, because you need to hear this, right? 0.96

00:31:43.000 Which is, why is it that we called Christian super spreaders when they had Easter and Pentecost, yet we can't say gay orgies are the super spreader of monkeypox in San Francisco? 0.93

00:31:54.000 Oh, we're not allowed to say that. 0.94

00:31:55.000 Like, you shut down Easter in 2020 and called past, you arrested pastors across the country, and you're now trying to lock us down for monkeypox.

00:32:03.000 Newsflash, I'm not worried about getting about getting monkeypox, okay, at all.

00:32:07.000 Okay?

00:32:08.000 I'm good.

00:32:09.000 And people say, well, that's insensitive. 0.99

00:32:11.000 Okay, if you're going to gay orgies and you want to shut down our country, my patience is negative with you, actually, okay? 1.00

00:32:17.000 And we should be able to say that out loud. 0.97

00:32:19.000 And that they came and shut down the church for six to nine months and persecuting our religious freedoms, that will definitely get some conversation in your youth.

00:32:28.000 Lean in.

00:32:29.000 The Bible is clear about what is right and what is wrong.

00:32:32.000 And there might be some murkiness where people say, well, what does the Bible say about economics?

00:32:35.000 We can help you through all that.

00:32:36.000 But here's where the Bible is clear.

00:32:37.000 God created man and woman.

00:32:39.000 Life begins at conception.

00:32:40.000 And that the church is essential.

00:32:42.000 If we can't get those three things right and the church remains silent on that, then I'm afraid we don't deserve the liberty that we're the recipient of.

00:32:48.000 Thank you.

00:32:49.000 I appreciate it.

00:32:51.000 Next question.

00:32:54.000 Oh no, we haven't any info.

00:32:56.000 Hi, I'm from Canada.

00:32:57.000 So there's nothing like turning point, you're saying in Canada.

00:33:01.000 So how can I make a difference?

00:33:02.000 Or is there a way to make a difference?

00:33:04.000 What part of Canada are you from?

00:33:05.000 I'm from British Columbia.

00:33:06.000 Yeah, Vancouver area.

00:33:06.000 Sure.

00:33:08.000 Yeah.

00:33:09.000 Yeah, so is there a way to make a difference without becoming a social media influencer or a politician?

00:33:15.000 Yeah, look, boy, you got to get rid of Trudeau.

00:33:16.000 That guy's got to go.

00:33:17.000 I'm telling you.

00:33:18.000 I know you want to.

00:33:20.000 Canada is a, first of all, God bless you for being here.

00:33:23.000 I have such a soft spot for Canadians.

00:33:25.000 But I'll be honest, never has a polite people been treated so terribly.

00:33:30.000 Let me tell you, that's my whole kind of thesis statement.

00:33:32.000 They are the politest, nicest people on the planet that are literally running by a guy I think probably is either biologically or metaphorically connected to Castro.

00:33:41.000 I mean, it's so close what they're doing.

00:33:44.000 What they did to the truckers was so unconscionable.

00:33:47.000 So I'll get to kind of what you can do in a second, which is similar to actually my advice to some Americans.

00:33:53.000 But Canada is an unbelievably beautiful country that I actually think, and this is my current argument, I think your politeness is being taken advantage of by your leaders.

00:34:02.000 We as Americans don't actually get described as polite very often, which I'll never understand how a country so influenced by French people could be polite. 1.00

00:34:12.000 I never understood that.

00:34:14.000 Because the French are definitely not polite. 1.00

00:34:16.000 This whole thing is bizarre to me.

00:34:17.000 But I'll say this, though, that Canadians are going through this kind of, I think, reckoning moment where they're asking, what exactly kind of a country do we have?

00:34:26.000 Who's in charge of here?

00:34:27.000 So the best advice I have to you is you have to think like a dissident in your own country.

00:34:33.000 And so this is actually probably going to be one of my next books.

00:34:36.000 I don't know when, which is, we don't talk about what it means to be a dissident.

00:34:40.000 Now, guess what, Americans?

00:34:41.000 We have to think like dissidents too, because we're no longer in the majority either.

00:34:44.000 They control every major institution.

00:34:46.000 We might have more people that agree with us, but they control the FBI, Harvard, New York Times, the tech companies, the major corporations.

00:34:53.000 And so when you're a dissident, you have to always kind of just be like, how do I expand my ranks?

00:34:57.000 How do I not go to jail?

00:34:58.000 That's important, right?

00:35:00.000 As Willessa famously said, who brought down the Soviet Union in Poland, he said, we have enough martyrs.

00:35:07.000 What we need is victories.

00:35:08.000 This is what always bought to your censorship question.

00:35:11.000 When people are like, oh, they say that I can't talk about hydroxychloroquine, I'm going to do it and get banned. 0.99

00:35:16.000 That's so dumb. 0.99

00:35:17.000 Okay? 1.00

00:35:17.000 Like, okay, you know the rules. 1.00

00:35:19.000 I know the rules are silly.

00:35:20.000 Work around them, okay?

00:35:21.000 We have enough people that have been banned and censored.

00:35:24.000 We have enough martyrs for martyrs' sake, okay?

00:35:26.000 In Canada, it's going to be an uphill fight.

00:35:28.000 But I will say this: the rural parts of Canada, I think, are your best place to start.

00:35:33.000 There's so much fight left in the Canadian people. 0.84

00:35:35.000 I know it.

00:35:36.000 But here's the one thing that I would pray for and fast for, because it says in the Bible to pray and fast for your nation.

00:35:41.000 Pray for a legitimate, charismatic Canadian church hill.

00:35:45.000 You guys get one leader, you could take back that country.

00:35:48.000 Your opposition party is a joke.

00:35:50.000 I mean, they have no charisma. 0.79

00:35:51.000 I don't think very much wisdom.

00:35:53.000 If you have a legitimately magnanimous guy, maybe it's Orleary from Shark Tank.

00:35:57.000 I don't know.

00:35:58.000 He was thinking about doing it.

00:35:59.000 That government could topple.

00:36:01.000 No, no, okay.

00:36:02.000 That Trudeau's government is built on a house of cards.

00:36:06.000 And it is built largely, in my personal opinion, on the lack of an opposition party.

00:36:11.000 You get one guy or gal that really, maybe it's you, that really gets it, then I think that entire government could be taken over favorably.

00:36:19.000 I appreciate it.

00:36:19.000 Thank you.

00:36:22.000 Do you think Canada represents a picture of where America could be heading 10 years from now?

00:36:28.000 Like the current case America's at?

00:36:31.000 Yes, I mean, in many ways.

00:36:32.000 I mean, what they're doing to Pastor Archer Pavlovsky is unbelievable.

00:36:35.000 I don't know if you guys know about that.

00:36:36.000 They arrested that pastor on the side of the street.

00:36:39.000 That wasn't far from you, right?

00:36:40.000 Was that in Alberta or something?

00:36:42.000 I don't know where it was.

00:36:42.000 It was 17 hours.

00:36:46.000 Just a couple time zones.

00:36:49.000 So it wasn't Prince Edward Island, okay?

00:36:51.000 I know a little bit.

00:36:52.000 But I will say, though, that, yes, it is the playbook they're trying to use.

00:36:52.000 There's a far away.

00:36:58.000 What did they do?

00:36:59.000 They took over the central banks.

00:37:00.000 They unified the currency.

00:37:01.000 They literally shut down people's bank accounts if they donated to the truck or convoy, arresting pastors on the side of the street.

00:37:07.000 No place for dissent.

00:37:09.000 Thankfully, this is why all of you should give a prayer of thanks to our founding fathers.

00:37:13.000 Our Constitution is far better than the Canadian Constitution.

00:37:16.000 It has robust protections for speech.

00:37:18.000 And also, the founding fathers were so unbelievably smart, which is that our states created the federal government.

00:37:23.000 The federal government didn't create the states, which makes it harder for a federal takeover.

00:37:27.000 The Canadian model, if Ottawa says it, it basically gets applied.

00:37:30.000 Now, there's some provincial differences, but it really is kind of a one-size-fits-all top-down deal.

00:37:35.000 In America, there's a lot of nuance.

00:37:37.000 And by the way, that actually keeps us more prosperous and peaceful.

00:37:40.000 The fact that, okay, if New York wants to do something wacky, but don't bring it to Texas, that actually keeps us from actually getting to a more radical moment, if that makes sense.

00:37:49.000 But they're trying to do the opposite.

00:37:50.000 So the Canadian story is unfortunately a blueprint of what I think they're trying to bring here. 0.71

00:37:56.000 That's good.

00:37:57.000 Next question.

00:37:58.000 I'm here with Joel.

00:38:00.000 So my question is: last week, the House passed a bill basically banning all semi-automatic firearms.

00:38:07.000 And do you think that that has any chance of actually passing in the Senate?

00:38:11.000 And if so, what would be their plans to follow up?

00:38:14.000 Because you don't just disarm a populace for no reason.

00:38:16.000 I think we know why they're disarming the population.

00:38:19.000 Canadians don't have guns, and that's why they can push them around so much, right? 0.99

00:38:23.000 You have to keep it in a locker or something.

00:38:25.000 It's the craziest thing.

00:38:27.000 Now, this is not a popular argument for people to make, so I'll definitely make it because I'm not a politician.

00:38:32.000 Which is an armed citizenry is able to keep their other freedoms a lot easier than a disarmed citizenry.

00:38:38.000 Which is the Second Amendment protects all your other amendments.

00:38:41.000 Now, some people say, Charlie, what are you going to fight the government?

00:38:43.000 No, it actually prevents conflict from happening.

00:38:45.000 And I'll give you a couple examples.

00:38:47.000 And so, by the way, every founding father wrote about the Second Amendment.

00:38:50.000 They said that this is the amendment that will make the potential tyrants shake and quiver in fear of taking your liberties and freedoms away.

00:38:58.000 And by the way, do we have to look at any?

00:38:59.000 The 20th century, if properly studied, which they don't teach in our schools, is one example of the other of taking guns and firearms away and destroying a civilization or population.

00:39:10.000 And so the Second Amendment, in my personal opinion, is instrumental to all the other freedom of movement, freedom of choice, freedom of private property, freedom of privacy, from the government, freedom of speech, all these other things.

00:39:21.000 So we know why they're trying to disarm the population.

00:39:23.000 But think about the annexation of Hong Kong.

00:39:26.000 Okay, you might remember that a couple years ago, where the Chinese Communist Party came into Hong Kong and obliterated them altogether.

00:39:31.000 By the way, Hong Kong basically doesn't exist anymore.

00:39:34.000 It's now called the South Region of Shushen or something.

00:39:37.000 They just eliminated Hong Kong.

00:39:38.000 Very Orwellian, by the way.

00:39:39.000 They just removed all the names to it.

00:39:41.000 The CCP completely took over Hong Kong at the 100-year anniversary of the treaty of the British Empire controlling it.

00:39:48.000 Remember all those freedom fighters of Hong Kong in the streets?

00:39:50.000 Imagine if every one of those freedom fighters had an AR-15 around their back.

00:39:54.000 Not using it, but just the threat of an AR-15.

00:39:57.000 The Chinese Communist Party would not have treated it like a hostage situation like they did.

00:40:01.000 It would have been a negotiation.

00:40:03.000 You see, tyrants, they are afraid of people being able to defend themselves.

00:40:07.000 Do I have to look further than the Soviet Union or Pol Pot in Cambodia or what happened with the National Socialist Workers' Party in Germany?

00:40:15.000 The point that I'm getting at here is that if we allow them to take our guns away, then other freedoms will follow.

00:40:21.000 It's not a popular argument.

00:40:23.000 And by the way, the Second Amendment's not for self-defense.

00:40:25.000 It's not for hunting deer.

00:40:26.000 It's not even for riot control if something happens.

00:40:29.000 No, it is unfortunately and tragically to say out loud, but it's true. 1.00

00:40:33.000 God forbid our government tries to come after us.

00:40:36.000 You have to be able to defend yourself.

00:40:37.000 And human history shows that there's a pattern and a habit to do that.

00:40:40.000 Okay, to answer your question, no, I don't think it will pass in the Senate.

00:40:44.000 What your senator in Texas here, John Cornyn, has been doing with gun control legislation confounds me and confuses me.

00:40:52.000 I think it's a big mistake.

00:40:53.000 We all mourn for the lives lost in Uvalde, Texas.

00:40:56.000 But let me be very clear.

00:40:57.000 As many kids died in Uvalde, Texas, not because of gun laws, but unfortunately because police officers who were well trained that had the guns at their disposal did not have the courage to act.

00:41:06.000 Now, we don't know if no one would have died, but the evidence shows the hour of time that was bought for that maniac, that scum, and that villain was because of the inaction of a lot of the police officers in Uvalde, Texas. 0.79

00:41:17.000 And it's despicable and reprehensible. 0.95

00:41:19.000 So, no, I don't think it's going to pass, but we've got to keep our eyes on what Congress is trying to do.

00:41:23.000 Liberty is not safe while Congress is in session.

00:41:26.000 So, wrapping up, because we're going to get into the arena for Flashpoint Live, anything that we've got a group of really 18 to 30 year olds is the target here.

00:41:34.000 So, what is something that kind of a last word that you want them to know?

00:41:37.000 How to mobilize, how to get them involved and engaged in what's going on in our nation?

00:41:42.000 Sure, I have a podcast.

00:41:43.000 If you guys want to follow it, we do three podcasts a day, also three hours of radio day.

00:41:47.000 We work really hard on that stuff, so you guys can check it out, Charlie Kirk Show.

00:41:50.000 If you're on a college campus or in high school, get involved with Turning Point USA or TPUSA Faith.

00:41:55.000 It's tpusa.com.

00:41:56.000 And the final thing is here, for my Canadian neighbors, this will apply a little bit less to them, but I'll broaden it.

00:42:01.000 Western civilization, how about that?

00:42:03.000 Is a gift from the Lord.

00:42:04.000 There is a beautiful life ahead of all of us.

00:42:07.000 There's a fulfilling life ahead of you.

00:42:09.000 It's going to require political involvement.

00:42:11.000 It's going to require hard truths.

00:42:13.000 And by the way, I don't expect that you agree with everything I said today, but clarity is far more important than agreement, okay?

00:42:20.000 That fake agreement ruins a civilization.

00:42:23.000 Clarity is what allows a civilization to continue.

00:42:26.000 You might have disagreements.

00:42:27.000 That's beautiful.

00:42:28.000 That's what makes life rich.

00:42:29.000 If you agree with everything I said, then what would be the purpose of even having dialogue?

00:42:33.000 What I can't stand is when people act as if they agree with something when they know deep down it's not true or right.

00:42:40.000 That is actually a form of self-type.

00:42:42.000 I actually think it's a form of torture that you do to yourself, right?

00:42:45.000 Like, I'm going to force myself to believe in this stuff, even though you know it's not true.

00:42:49.000 Finally, I'll just kind of say this as marching orders, which is, I hope this speaks to somebody here, which is some of you right now need to hear this message, which is a bold move out of the current profession or school or habit that you're in to go towards something that is in the pursuit of Christ and righteousness and liberty.

00:43:06.000 If you're all of a sudden like boy, that was me.

00:43:07.000 Where if I have to be somebody different in my apartment than I am in public, then go take that step of boldness because I'm telling you, you will be a happier and more joyful person because of that.

00:43:17.000 Always put Jesus first in everything you do, and then, but do not forsake, I'm telling you, do not forsake this fight for the natural law, for the structure of government.

00:43:25.000 Don't turn your back on it.

00:43:26.000 I know it could be messy, I know it could be murky, I know it can all of a sudden be like, ah, I'm not that interested in it.

00:43:31.000 But if we don't care about this, the bad guys are going to create our country into something totally unrecognizable.

00:43:36.000 If you have questions, good, ask those questions.

00:43:39.000 If you don't have total clarity, ask people that do or that are able to kind of bring you towards that.

00:43:43.000 But that is not an excuse to be apathetic or cynical or not involved.

00:43:47.000 It's now up to us, our generation, to save this beautiful Western civilization experiment, which is led mostly because of America.

00:43:53.000 Let's stay engaged and stay involved, everybody.

00:43:55.000 God bless you guys.

00:43:55.000 Thank you so much.

00:44:01.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:44:02.000 Email me your thoughts.

00:44:03.000 It's always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:44:05.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:44:07.000 God bless.

00:44:11.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk dot com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - September 25, 2022

Gen Z Christians, College Scams, and Church Censorship—LIVE Student Q+A from Flashpoint

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