00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk Show, a conversation with a Gen Z TikTok YouTube star, Gabe Poirot, joins us for the full hour of how to reach the next generation with conservative values and for Christ.
00:00:41.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:49.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:00.000So, I'm just honestly, as much as the show would want to present me as something special, I'm just an everyday guy.
00:02:05.000I got laid off from my job three years ago when COVID hit.
00:02:08.000I was all at home and at the apartment, and I realized that my generation was lost and dying, and that the church was stuck being silent, and that in order to reach my generation, I needed to get on my phone and get on social media and start speaking truth, not just about Bible scriptures, but actually what's going on around us.
00:02:24.000Yeah, so how long, how long have you been doing that?
00:03:45.000I think it's not a coincidence that the same year that there just so happened to be a certain thing going around in the bioweapon from Wuhan.
00:03:57.000Didn't know if we were allowed to say that keyword, but uh, no, that the same year that that just so happens, there just so happens to be an app from China of which everyone's eyes are glued upon.
00:04:05.000And at the time, the algorithm at that time was not throwing out educational videos on how to be a lawyer, it was booties in the air and uh emasculating the next generation of our country.
00:04:15.000So, right, and very few people were willing to speak out for virtue and for order, uh, especially in 2020.
00:04:40.000So, your goal, as you put it, is to bring Christ to Generation Z. Is that a fair way?
00:04:45.000Yeah, I want to take off the masks of our eyes and so that we can understand the world around us through the lens of our original creator, which is Jesus and God the Father and the Holy Spirit.
00:04:58.000So, we're at a place now where, let's just talk about your generation.
00:05:25.000Generation Z is crying out for authenticity and they're crying out for some place of power.
00:05:32.000And as much as I want to sit here and say that we, as the Church of America, have done a fabulous job of always innovating and adapting to what is really needed for people's lives.
00:05:44.000And that also being said, we have been so indoctrinated and manipulated into believing that we are free thinkers, that we really are just exalting ourselves as God.
00:05:56.000And that's really what I believe is the cause of this next generation being so, you could say, not Christian and so going in different directions.
00:06:50.000We've also been too known as a church of no's instead of the church that actually provides the truth that will keep you from the no's.
00:07:00.000What I mean when I say that is telling a kid not to have sex before marriage, if you just tell him no all the time, it actually won't do what you're wanting it.
00:07:07.000It'll just make him want to go and have sex.
00:07:09.000You got to say, teach about how amazing sex is in marriage and about how it's a God-given gift, right?
00:07:15.000My point is, we can't just be the place that says no's.
00:07:50.000So my freshman year of high school, starting out, I was really dabbling in a lot of different areas and I was kind of tired of church and of Christianity.
00:08:01.000But the winter of my freshman year, I made a decision.
00:08:04.000I started, I actually encountered Jesus in my bedroom, which is a crazy story.
00:08:08.000I know many people out there are probably going to be like, what is going on with this guy?
00:08:12.000But I encountered Jesus in my bedroom and I had a moment where I thought to myself, if I live up to all my personal dreams and just try to be like everyone else, what am I except of a copycat of a cookie cutter?
00:08:23.000And I made the decision that night to really be committed to Jesus, not just to call him something, but to actually let him be my Lord, to actually be in the army of what he has, wanting to get done.
00:09:23.000You hear about that rarely, but it is the Christ gives a series of gifts of speaking of tongues, healing, and many others, all the gifts of the apostles in the book of Acts.
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00:12:10.000So, and I also want to just touch on this as well, because for anyone watching this right now who might be doubting whether like healing miracles actually happen, well, of course they can.
00:12:17.000Even me breathing on this interview right now, for anyone watching, is a verified miracle, considering a year ago I was in a two and a half week coma.
00:12:58.000There was this overwhelming feeling inside of my heart that arose of which I was just overcome by love.
00:13:05.000I was just overcome by the acknowledgement and enlightenment that a person, not just a person, but that the God of the universe would so care for me that he has a better plan for me than I think.
00:13:15.000And I actually remember having a hard time standing and I actually just went to the ground.
00:14:00.000And I just so happened to hit a little bump in the middle of the road with no helmet, flipped off the board, landed directly on my head, going about 25 miles per hour.
00:14:10.000And I just landed on my head so directly that no, no other part of my body was hurt.
00:15:58.000I remember when I first walked, they were like holding their arms around me, like, like thinking that they were going to have to like walk me.
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00:18:14.000Why do you think Gen Z and/or millennials are waiting so long to get married?
00:18:18.000Yeah, well, firstly, we'll start out with 50% of marriages in America have ended in divorce.
00:18:24.000And so we're talking about a generation that isn't just gone through some rough family situations.
00:18:28.000We're talking about, and we're not even the first generation that has really struggled having consistent family structures.
00:18:34.000And so we're really, we're really paying the reverbs of a society that doesn't value family anymore.
00:18:41.000And I think in my generation, we've witnessed too many broken marriages.
00:18:45.000We've witnessed marriage being not a covenant, but instead just being this ideal or social construct that we can just throw away in our minds.
00:18:56.000I think also we're giving away the benefits of marriage without the cost.
00:19:00.000And so when you live in a culture like that, people say, well, why would I even pay the cost of marriage if I can just go sleep with the girl tonight?
00:19:12.000So how do you convince a generation that is the most miserable, depressed, alcohol-addicted, drug-addicted, porn-addicted generation to get married?
00:19:22.000That you're basically tell them, telling them to take responsibility.
00:19:29.000I'd say to anyone that any of my generation that has $10,000, I would ask them if they carry it in their pocket or they take it to a bank account.
00:19:37.000What I mean when I say that is you so value your time that you're when you understand the collection of it, when you understand something that is valuable to you, you place it in a safe and secure place, right?
00:20:21.000We really have, in this enlightened, woke agenda that has taken not just America, but the entire world, we really think that we are advanced as we have only become limited to our own desires.
00:20:34.000Anyone that has ever understood even the aspect of finances, you understand you only win when you are willing to pay short-term costs for the long-term investment.
00:20:46.000So Christian pastors are unwilling to speak out about politics.
00:20:52.000You have some very strong political views that obviously I agree with.
00:20:57.000What do you make of people that, like Andy Stanley or Levi Lusko or Judas Smith or the adulterer, Carl Lentz, that don't speak out on politics?
00:21:12.000Well, I'll first say that there's been a couple things that have left the church.
00:21:16.000And one of those has been open discussion between times of accountability where people might actually disagree with you and bring you the truth that you need to hear.
00:21:26.000But instead, we've created a culture in these large ministries and churches where the boards and the close friends, the close-knit communities are not places of healthy environments.
00:21:36.000Instead, they're places where you get to kick anyone out that you don't like to hear.
00:21:41.000But second of all, I'll just say that if we're all being honest with ourselves, there's times in our life where we have feared men more than we have feared God.
00:21:48.000And let me just tell everyone watching, right?
00:21:50.000You may not see the God of the heavens that created the very molecules that you are breathing under, but when you actually understand how amazing, not just amazing, but how awe-inspiring and powerful our God is, and when you start to fear him, when you start to respect him, you'll care more about what he thinks than people.
00:22:09.000And when you get to that place, you'll realize how stupid it is that we are more worried about tithe money or our board members or our attendance numbers than we are about getting the truth out.
00:22:22.000There once was a large group of churches that was very silent about politics.
00:22:26.000And they thought a man named Hitler wasn't a very big deal.
00:22:29.000Sure, he wanted to stir some stuff up and sure he wanted to rise up in his government and do some things, but that's not the church's job, Charlie.
00:22:35.000That's not the church's job to speak about a crazy man named Hitler.
00:22:40.00020 years later, you have millions of people.
00:22:41.000Yeah, but honestly, what is the so what is the call for this next generation of pastors specifically?
00:22:48.000The call for this next generation of pastors is to accept their admittance in the army of the Lord and finally give every mountain of influence into the hands of Jesus.
00:23:01.000If Jesus really is Lord and be an example to the people, if Jesus is Lord with our sermons, with our influence, with our pulpit, we will teach our people how to implement their faith into every area of their life, including politics.
00:23:14.000Politics is not some separate word that is just for some special people.
00:23:18.000Politics is really involving in every area of our life.
00:23:21.000So if Jesus really does care about us, you know, when people came to Jesus, did he just say, oh, let me take you to the synagogue?
00:23:33.000He helped them with their job and their careers.
00:23:35.000If Jesus is this person that we claim he is, then we better get involved in politics.
00:23:41.000Yeah, and the ecclesia, the public square, we are called to contest in.
00:23:46.000And do you think that, so the Judas Smith type, right, or the Levi Lusko or whoever, you know, these very weak heretical pastors are, they say you're going to lose young people.
00:23:57.000You know, for example, Andy Stanley says this.
00:23:59.000He says, we should never take a stand on anything that makes somebody leave the church.
00:24:52.000Anyway, so I don't mean to derail nobody.
00:24:54.000They could say the same thing to Jesus when he was calling out Pharisees and Sadducees, flipping tables, directly identifying them as the enemies of God.
00:25:02.000The same people that claim that God is their God and the same people that so-called advertised the faith.
00:25:10.000They were the largest denomination at the time, yet they were the same ones that crucified Christ.
00:26:00.000So anyways, my point is, though, but you do need to ask the question, why have millions of young men and women, but all over the world so cling to what he was saying is because he was confident and he wasn't afraid to talk about many things that people were going through.
00:26:16.000I only say that to say people respect someone that is confident and is willing to commit to something.
00:27:27.000And also, even if they were to somehow keep an audience, what are you keeping an audience for?
00:27:32.000Because last I checked, you wouldn't be keeping an audience for a Jesus that is Lord that you've abdicated and you've been so afraid to talk about stuff.
00:27:41.000So even if you do keep millions, what are you keeping millions for?
00:27:51.000Most young Christian influencers are just nauseating and just they really don't get it.
00:27:56.000And they're like, well, we have to frame that we actually love the trans.
00:28:00.000It's like, I'm just so done with all that.
00:28:04.000And so, I mean, it's refreshing for someone that actually wants to reach the next generation with truth.
00:28:10.000Yeah, I would say, I would actually throw in a little bit of a nuance to that.
00:28:15.000I would say I love trans people enough to not let them walk off the cliff that leads them to their death.
00:28:21.000And I really believe that we as the church should not be at the place where we just tap out of everything and just say, oh, whatever.
00:28:28.000But instead, we need to genuinely show the real love, which is one that isn't willing to compromise the truth in the name of a fake, redefined love and acceptance.
00:28:40.000So I really think what you're getting at, Charlie, is you're tired of people perverting the truth.
00:28:46.000You're tired of people making good, bad, and bad, good.
00:28:49.000Yeah, as it says in the scriptures, man will do right in his own eyes.
00:28:52.000Actually says that in Romans 1, that they will call bad, good, and good, bad.
00:28:57.000And I mean, I'm not really in the church world.
00:29:27.000I mean, broadly, the church has been struggling.
00:29:30.000And, you know, they've abdicated and they've compromised so much.
00:29:33.000And they're still, numbers are still declining and places of influence are still declining.
00:29:38.000And so I think it really just goes to show how if when we really understand the real love that God has for us, we won't be afraid to pluck off the leaves and correct ourselves.
00:29:51.000Because let me tell you what's a lot better than the judgment we will pay sitting before the throne of God is the judgment we need to give ourselves now, is the correction we need to give ourselves now.
00:30:00.000And so to any church or pastor or Christian out there just watching this, we do need to love like never before.
00:30:06.000We need to love God's way and we need to love with the truth and we need to not be afraid to stand on his side.
00:30:14.000So as I look across friends my age, a little bit older and even younger, we're witnessing a generation that doesn't know who they are anymore that is crying out.
00:30:24.000And that's why we've seen the highest percentage.
00:30:26.000I think now 25% of Generation Z is in the LGBTQ.
00:30:31.000Yeah, it's the gayest generation ever.
00:30:33.000It's because people are hurting and broken and the alphabet mafia is instantly there to take them up and instantly there to give them an identity that obviously isn't truthful, but it is of manipulating.
00:30:45.000And so this message titled Build Different, 90 Days to Becoming All God Wants You to Be, is a 90-day devotional to really solidify your identity.
00:30:52.000And I know like you probably maybe might be a Christian or already Christian, but it really solidifies who God has made you to be, the DNA he has laid out for you and the plan that he has for our lives and how to discipline ourselves to get the job done.
00:31:05.000How to walk in your career, how to hear his voice, how to see yourself and how to find the right person.
00:31:11.000I recently got married and I'm thankful God gave me some tips on how to find that right person.
00:31:16.000And so just a bunch of your questions as a young person, you're asking yourself right now, you need this devotional or get into the hands of God.
00:31:23.000What is your favorite book of the Bible?
00:31:42.000Sorry, I'm just having to handle the fact you just associated me with Greta.
00:31:46.000So Ephesians chapter 1, verses 15 to 21 and Ephesians chapter 3, 15 to 21.
00:31:51.000And everyone watching, if you will pray that prayer every day for 30 days, you will witness some of the most amazing revelations from just reading the Bible than ever before.
00:32:02.000Isn't the armor of God in Ephesians, I'm not mistaken?
00:32:28.000Scientists have studied this, that those who read their Bible at least four times a week have been found to be more peaceful, joyful, less stressed, less in anxiety.