The Charlie Kirk Show - Getting Saved on TikTok? with Gabe Poirot

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk Show, a conversation with a Gen Z TikTok YouTube star, Gabe Poirot, joins us for the full hour of how to reach the next generation with conservative values and for Christ.

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00:01:11.000 Okay, welcome back, everybody.

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00:01:15.000 Very special guest for the full hour, Gabe Poirot.

00:01:18.000 I said that right.

00:01:19.000 Miraculously, you did, sir.

00:01:20.000 It's amazing.

00:01:21.000 Honored to have you here.

00:01:22.000 Now, I'm a millennial, and I don't know if you know this, but millennials have been the most hated generation until Gen Z came along. 1.00

00:01:30.000 Until, yep, we stole your spot there.

00:01:32.000 Now, I am not a old, I'm a younger millennial born in 93.

00:01:37.000 What year were you born?

00:01:38.000 2000.

00:01:39.000 2000.

00:01:40.000 I remember the year 2000.

00:01:40.000 Yes, sir.

00:01:42.000 It was a great kindergarten year.

00:01:44.000 So, Gabe is a big deal on youtube.com and TikTok.

00:01:48.000 Also, Proud Christian, you have devotional tons to talk about.

00:01:52.000 Want to explore a lot of different themes here, but first, introduce yourself to our audience as our Gen Z Svengali.

00:01:59.000 Yeah.

00:02:00.000 So, I'm just honestly, as much as the show would want to present me as something special, I'm just an everyday guy.

00:02:05.000 I got laid off from my job three years ago when COVID hit.

00:02:08.000 I was all at home and at the apartment, and I realized that my generation was lost and dying, and that the church was stuck being silent, and that in order to reach my generation, I needed to get on my phone and get on social media and start speaking truth, not just about Bible scriptures, but actually what's going on around us.

00:02:24.000 Yeah, so how long, how long have you been doing that?

00:02:26.000 Yeah, so three years.

00:02:27.000 So, ever since March of 2020.

00:02:29.000 So, you started during COVID, during the lockdowns.

00:02:31.000 And what platform did you gravitate towards?

00:02:31.000 Yes.

00:02:33.000 Yeah, so it's actually funny.

00:02:34.000 I started out on our favorite Chinese communist app, of which I know is your favorite.

00:02:39.000 So, I don't understand.

00:02:41.000 We're going to talk about that.

00:02:42.000 So, you started on TikTok.

00:02:44.000 Yeah.

00:02:44.000 Yes.

00:02:44.000 So, started on TikTok, transitioned more towards YouTube, and now just doing both.

00:02:49.000 So, when you first started using TikTok, were you mostly a consumer first, or were you a creator right out of the gate?

00:02:56.000 Yeah, so I was actually only a creator right out of the gate.

00:02:58.000 Oh, wow.

00:02:58.000 I was never a TikTok fan.

00:03:00.000 I thought it was always very stupid and make fun of everyone who was hooked on it. 0.99

00:03:03.000 Same. 1.00

00:03:04.000 But until, it was actually funny.

00:03:05.000 I was sitting down with my friends, one of which, you know, Titus L. Smith.

00:03:09.000 Yeah.

00:03:09.000 Very talented guy, man.

00:03:10.000 And he told me, I was telling him my great vision of how to help the next generation and, you know, how to really bring truth.

00:03:17.000 And he was like, Gabe, that's great.

00:03:18.000 Why aren't you on social media?

00:03:20.000 And so that really was one of the tips and just felt led to start on that space.

00:03:25.000 So you looked at TikTok as missional work.

00:03:28.000 Yeah, basically, right?

00:03:31.000 And so, I mean, I think TikTok should be banned.

00:03:33.000 It's digital heroin.

00:03:34.000 But as long as it is here, we should try to influence on it.

00:03:37.000 But we shouldn't make any mystery, in my opinion, that it's somehow good for society or humanity.

00:03:42.000 It's not.

00:03:42.000 But you're effective on it.

00:03:44.000 I think it's also, I just want to touch on this.

00:03:44.000 Sure.

00:03:45.000 I think it's not a coincidence that the same year that there just so happened to be a certain thing going around in the bioweapon from Wuhan. 0.94

00:03:55.000 Yes, to say specifically.

00:03:57.000 Didn't know if we were allowed to say that keyword, but uh, no, that the same year that that just so happens, there just so happens to be an app from China of which everyone's eyes are glued upon.

00:04:05.000 And at the time, the algorithm at that time was not throwing out educational videos on how to be a lawyer, it was booties in the air and uh emasculating the next generation of our country.

00:04:15.000 So, right, and very few people were willing to speak out for virtue and for order, uh, especially in 2020.

00:04:25.000 So, so you got popular on TikTok.

00:04:27.000 I found out about you on YouTube, though, which is a much more civilized platform.

00:04:31.000 And not that YouTube is great, I prefer rumble.com, but you're very popular on YouTube.

00:04:35.000 Two million subs, right?

00:04:37.000 Yes, sir.

00:04:38.000 That's a significant number.

00:04:40.000 So, your goal, as you put it, is to bring Christ to Generation Z. Is that a fair way?

00:04:45.000 Yeah, I want to take off the masks of our eyes and so that we can understand the world around us through the lens of our original creator, which is Jesus and God the Father and the Holy Spirit.

00:04:58.000 So, we're at a place now where, let's just talk about your generation.

00:05:02.000 I can now say this.

00:05:03.000 This is so strange.

00:05:04.000 Your generation.

00:05:05.000 It's funny hearing it from you.

00:05:06.000 Yeah, because it's millennials are, we have received so much snarkiness and attacks and condemnation.

00:05:13.000 Finally, a generation that we can attack. 1.00

00:05:15.000 So, Generation Z is the least religious generation in history.

00:05:21.000 Is that what?

00:05:22.000 Why do you think that is?

00:05:23.000 I'll say a couple things.

00:05:25.000 Generation Z is crying out for authenticity and they're crying out for some place of power.

00:05:32.000 And as much as I want to sit here and say that we, as the Church of America, have done a fabulous job of always innovating and adapting to what is really needed for people's lives.

00:05:43.000 The truth is that we haven't.

00:05:44.000 And that also being said, we have been so indoctrinated and manipulated into believing that we are free thinkers, that we really are just exalting ourselves as God.

00:05:56.000 And that's really what I believe is the cause of this next generation being so, you could say, not Christian and so going in different directions. 0.89

00:06:05.000 They're seeking a place of power.

00:06:07.000 They're seeking someone who can answer their questions, and the church hasn't answered the questions like we should have.

00:06:12.000 Why do you think the church has failed that so miserably?

00:06:15.000 I think we've been afraid of people's opinion way too much.

00:06:18.000 I think too many pastors are thinking about their boards and their tithe money and their spheres of influence.

00:06:25.000 I think they're also abdicating the opportunities to actually influence places of power.

00:06:32.000 They're saying, oh, the schools, yeah, we'll let the government take that.

00:06:35.000 Media, no, we don't need to get on media.

00:06:37.000 We'll just preach in pulpits on Sundays.

00:06:40.000 We've abdicated all these places because we've thought, oh, yeah, well, this is just religion.

00:06:46.000 This is just like one-seventh of my life.

00:06:49.000 And we've failed.

00:06:50.000 We've also been too known as a church of no's instead of the church that actually provides the truth that will keep you from the no's. 0.99

00:07:00.000 What I mean when I say that is telling a kid not to have sex before marriage, if you just tell him no all the time, it actually won't do what you're wanting it.

00:07:07.000 It'll just make him want to go and have sex.

00:07:09.000 You got to say, teach about how amazing sex is in marriage and about how it's a God-given gift, right?

00:07:15.000 My point is, we can't just be the place that says no's.

00:07:18.000 We need to show the whys. 0.98

00:07:19.000 We need to show the yeses and how good the yeses are in Christ.

00:07:22.000 And when you know that, you won't want to go after ludicrous perversions.

00:07:26.000 Did you go to government high school or were you?

00:07:29.000 No, I actually went to a lovely 5A public liberal high school in Virginia, actually.

00:07:34.000 In Virginia.

00:07:35.000 And it was actually known.

00:07:35.000 Yeah.

00:07:36.000 It was actually, it was known as one of the most liberal high schools.

00:07:42.000 And it was, yeah, it was a very interesting time, to say the least.

00:07:46.000 So were you a Christian at the time?

00:07:49.000 Yeah.

00:07:49.000 So funny story.

00:07:50.000 So my freshman year of high school, starting out, I was really dabbling in a lot of different areas and I was kind of tired of church and of Christianity.

00:08:01.000 But the winter of my freshman year, I made a decision.

00:08:04.000 I started, I actually encountered Jesus in my bedroom, which is a crazy story.

00:08:08.000 I know many people out there are probably going to be like, what is going on with this guy?

00:08:12.000 But I encountered Jesus in my bedroom and I had a moment where I thought to myself, if I live up to all my personal dreams and just try to be like everyone else, what am I except of a copycat of a cookie cutter?

00:08:23.000 And I made the decision that night to really be committed to Jesus, not just to call him something, but to actually let him be my Lord, to actually be in the army of what he has, wanting to get done.

00:08:35.000 And so I made that decision.

00:08:37.000 And actually, yeah, I committed everything.

00:08:39.000 I started up a Bible study, grew to more than 75 kids, meaning in the auditorium.

00:08:43.000 On the football team, we saw kids come to Christ.

00:08:45.000 We actually saw some really cool miracles happen.

00:08:48.000 We saw two deaf ears opened, which is really amazing.

00:08:51.000 Yeah.

00:08:51.000 Healing.

00:08:52.000 No, I'm serious.

00:08:53.000 We tested it.

00:08:54.000 Even for the atheists, they would have verified this, that they were there. 0.99

00:08:58.000 But we had the guy who was just deaf.

00:09:02.000 We communicated to him to hold a hand up when he heard the chair hit the table.

00:09:05.000 And I waited just to make sure he wouldn't fake it.

00:09:07.000 Waited.

00:09:08.000 Chair hits the table.

00:09:09.000 Hand goes up.

00:09:09.000 The next day at a pep rally, hears music for the first time.

00:09:12.000 I was sitting next to him.

00:09:13.000 Verified.

00:09:15.000 So I know I say that, you know, just over an interview, but so we saw some real stuff happen.

00:09:20.000 No, it is the gifts of healing.

00:09:23.000 You hear about that rarely, but it is the Christ gives a series of gifts of speaking of tongues, healing, and many others, all the gifts of the apostles in the book of Acts.

00:09:36.000 So I want to keep diving into this.

00:09:38.000 Really quick, your social coordinates for people that might be listening that they can follow?

00:09:42.000 Yeah.

00:09:42.000 So at Gabe underscore Perot, P-O-I-R-O-T.

00:09:47.000 And, you know, it's interesting.

00:09:49.000 The Gen Z gets a lot of attention.

00:09:52.000 I think there's more hope in Gen Z than people realize.

00:09:55.000 And I mean, your content does extraordinarily well looking through your YouTube channel.

00:10:00.000 Millions and millions of followers.

00:10:02.000 How many followers do you have on TikTok?

00:10:03.000 I think you have like 300 million views, right?

00:10:05.000 Yeah, on TikTok.

00:10:06.000 Yeah.

00:10:06.000 We're at 400 million TikTok views, followers 1.5.

00:10:10.000 That's got to be one of the top Christian pages out there, isn't it?

00:10:13.000 Sure, yeah.

00:10:14.000 Who would come even close?

00:10:16.000 Well, here's the reason why I actually don't agree with what you're saying is every day I can't wake up thinking about what's been done in the past.

00:10:22.000 I like waking up every day.

00:10:24.000 Well, I'm just looking at numbers.

00:10:25.000 Who else has a close TikTok following you?

00:10:28.000 That's Christian.

00:10:29.000 I don't know.

00:10:30.000 I think Jacob Coyne, Taylor and Seaman.

00:10:32.000 There's only a couple, though.

00:10:33.000 I never heard of these people.

00:10:34.000 Yeah.

00:10:35.000 But I want to ask you about that.

00:10:37.000 I find it interesting.

00:10:38.000 Here's a guy with 400 million likes, views, right on TikTok.

00:10:42.000 I don't understand these.

00:10:44.000 See, I'm getting too old.

00:10:45.000 And I'm wondering, like, has many of the Christian pastors reached out to you?

00:10:49.000 Probably learned something from Gabe Poirot.

00:10:52.000 Yes?

00:10:52.000 Yes.

00:10:54.000 That reminds me of Murder and the Orient Express.

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00:12:03.000 Okay, so I want to zero in on something I find in you encountered Jesus in your bedroom.

00:12:07.000 I don't find this stuff weird at all.

00:12:08.000 I think it's amazing.

00:12:09.000 Tell me about it.

00:12:10.000 Yeah.

00:12:10.000 So, and I also want to just touch on this as well, because for anyone watching this right now who might be doubting whether like healing miracles actually happen, well, of course they can.

00:12:17.000 Even me breathing on this interview right now, for anyone watching, is a verified miracle, considering a year ago I was in a two and a half week coma.

00:12:26.000 Wow.

00:12:27.000 And the hospital called in my parents asking for my last will.

00:12:32.000 What happened?

00:12:32.000 How did you get there?

00:12:33.000 We'll get into that.

00:12:33.000 But before we get to that, let me just touch on your first question.

00:12:35.000 Sure.

00:12:36.000 Which was, how did I encounter Jesus?

00:12:37.000 So I was actually watching a sermon by a pastor named Keith Moore.

00:12:43.000 And just watching, he was talking about what it really means to love God.

00:12:46.000 And I was just all alone in my bedroom.

00:12:47.000 And he asked everyone to stand.

00:12:49.000 And I stood at my feet.

00:12:50.000 And as I was just praying to God, you know, just as we know love is real.

00:12:56.000 We know peace is real.

00:12:58.000 There was this overwhelming feeling inside of my heart that arose of which I was just overcome by love.

00:13:05.000 I was just overcome by the acknowledgement and enlightenment that a person, not just a person, but that the God of the universe would so care for me that he has a better plan for me than I think.

00:13:15.000 And I actually remember having a hard time standing and I actually just went to the ground.

00:13:21.000 And it was like, people doubt this. 0.97

00:13:22.000 People are like, you're just some weird, I don't know, like crazy Christian. 1.00

00:13:26.000 And yeah, because it really happened to me. 0.95

00:13:28.000 It's like when you get in the pool, people say, why are you wet?

00:13:30.000 You can't explain it.

00:13:31.000 You just are.

00:13:33.000 And so, yeah, I encountered Jesus.

00:13:36.000 But yeah, for me, even breathing, having the life I have now, I thank God every day that he healed me.

00:13:44.000 So how'd you get a coma?

00:13:45.000 So, you know, those boosted boards, those electric skateboards.

00:13:45.000 Yeah.

00:13:49.000 This is a Gen Z thing.

00:13:50.000 Yeah.

00:13:51.000 So anyways, yeah, they go as fast as you want them to go.

00:13:55.000 And I was racing cars and I was with my buddy and two of my friends.

00:13:59.000 We were racing.

00:14:00.000 And I just so happened to hit a little bump in the middle of the road with no helmet, flipped off the board, landed directly on my head, going about 25 miles per hour.

00:14:10.000 And I just landed on my head so directly that no, no other part of my body was hurt.

00:14:14.000 It was just my head.

00:14:17.000 Entire skull in the back cracked.

00:14:19.000 And I went to a natural coma.

00:14:21.000 So instantly lost consciousness.

00:14:24.000 And for the next breathing once every 60 seconds, my lung failed.

00:14:29.000 And the hospital and doctors say at that moment, the odds of me living were even slim, very slim.

00:14:34.000 Just so happened, went into a, would then go on to around a two and a half week coma.

00:14:41.000 And they called in my parents.

00:14:43.000 They said, where's his last will?

00:14:44.000 Things were very dire.

00:14:46.000 They even drilled into my head.

00:14:48.000 I still have a scar in there, but they drilled in my head, blood gushing out of my ears.

00:14:52.000 They were about to take out my throat.

00:14:53.000 So if you know those advertisements where they're like anti-cigarettes, where they're like, hi, my name is.

00:15:00.000 So that was about to be me.

00:15:00.000 Yeah.

00:15:02.000 Anyways, two and a half weeks in, the week of November 12th, I woke up and Jesus healed me.

00:15:06.000 And I kitchened out and I looked around and I said, why am I in a hospital right now?

00:15:10.000 I was that healed.

00:15:12.000 I was also out of consciousness.

00:15:13.000 So that's why I said so you woke up really with no bearings.

00:15:17.000 So yeah, so I woke up.

00:15:19.000 What's crazy is actually when I initially woke up, it took a couple days to wake up.

00:15:23.000 When I first woke up, I had no memory.

00:15:24.000 So people would be talking to me.

00:15:26.000 I already had slight memory.

00:15:28.000 But as my memory, it came flooding back.

00:15:31.000 I ended up getting up out of the bed, ended up walking, passing all the tests.

00:15:36.000 And it was so, I was on the floor of where at 2 a.m. you'd hear the screamers, the ones who were about to die.

00:15:42.000 Like it was that floor.

00:15:44.000 And they really were either counting me as going to die or be a mental vegetable.

00:15:48.000 And none of the two ever happened.

00:15:49.000 I ended up coming out of the hospital.

00:15:51.000 They were going to send me to the therapy place where they like bathe you, wake you up, all that.

00:15:56.000 No, ended up being completely fine.

00:15:58.000 I remember when I first walked, they were like holding their arms around me, like, like thinking that they were going to have to like walk me.

00:16:03.000 And I remember like shutting their hands away, like, I got this.

00:16:07.000 And it was, and I'll be showing the b-roll of that for you guys.

00:16:10.000 But yeah, it was a verified miracle.

00:16:12.000 And I'll never forget it.

00:16:13.000 Well, yeah, you'll never forget it.

00:16:15.000 So the last thing you remember was skateboard blitzboarding or whatever.

00:16:20.000 Skateboarding.

00:16:21.000 Yeah.

00:16:21.000 And then hospital.

00:16:23.000 Yeah.

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00:18:10.000 So, Gabe, you recently got married.

00:18:12.000 Yes.

00:18:13.000 Congratulations.

00:18:14.000 Thank you. 1.00

00:18:14.000 Why do you think Gen Z and/or millennials are waiting so long to get married? 1.00

00:18:18.000 Yeah, well, firstly, we'll start out with 50% of marriages in America have ended in divorce.

00:18:24.000 And so we're talking about a generation that isn't just gone through some rough family situations.

00:18:28.000 We're talking about, and we're not even the first generation that has really struggled having consistent family structures.

00:18:34.000 And so we're really, we're really paying the reverbs of a society that doesn't value family anymore.

00:18:41.000 And I think in my generation, we've witnessed too many broken marriages.

00:18:45.000 We've witnessed marriage being not a covenant, but instead just being this ideal or social construct that we can just throw away in our minds.

00:18:54.000 And so I think that's one thing.

00:18:56.000 I think also we're giving away the benefits of marriage without the cost.

00:19:00.000 And so when you live in a culture like that, people say, well, why would I even pay the cost of marriage if I can just go sleep with the girl tonight?

00:19:07.000 Right.

00:19:07.000 I mean, so it's just you probably hear that a lot.

00:19:09.000 It's a microwave society.

00:19:11.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:19:12.000 So how do you convince a generation that is the most miserable, depressed, alcohol-addicted, drug-addicted, porn-addicted generation to get married?

00:19:22.000 That you're basically tell them, telling them to take responsibility.

00:19:28.000 Yeah.

00:19:28.000 Well, I'd ask the same question.

00:19:29.000 I'd say to anyone that any of my generation that has $10,000, I would ask them if they carry it in their pocket or they take it to a bank account.

00:19:37.000 What I mean when I say that is you so value your time that you're when you understand the collection of it, when you understand something that is valuable to you, you place it in a safe and secure place, right?

00:19:48.000 You don't keep it in your pocket.

00:19:50.000 You take it to the bank, and if you're wise, you invest it.

00:19:52.000 Why?

00:19:53.000 Because you don't give yourself away to just anything.

00:19:57.000 Now, I would also ask why they value their own intricate body parts at a less value than the money that they make.

00:20:04.000 I would ask them, why would they value their own identity, their own time, their own personhood less than just cash money, right?

00:20:13.000 Why are we giving ourselves away to just anyone and anything that is just willing to take us?

00:20:18.000 And we think we are free.

00:20:20.000 Like, here's my thing.

00:20:21.000 We really have, in this enlightened, woke agenda that has taken not just America, but the entire world, we really think that we are advanced as we have only become limited to our own desires.

00:20:34.000 Anyone that has ever understood even the aspect of finances, you understand you only win when you are willing to pay short-term costs for the long-term investment.

00:20:42.000 And it's even more so in life.

00:20:44.000 Yeah, delayed gratification.

00:20:46.000 So Christian pastors are unwilling to speak out about politics.

00:20:52.000 You have some very strong political views that obviously I agree with.

00:20:57.000 What do you make of people that, like Andy Stanley or Levi Lusko or Judas Smith or the adulterer, Carl Lentz, that don't speak out on politics?

00:21:10.000 They're too cool for that.

00:21:11.000 Yeah.

00:21:12.000 Well, I'll first say that there's been a couple things that have left the church.

00:21:16.000 And one of those has been open discussion between times of accountability where people might actually disagree with you and bring you the truth that you need to hear.

00:21:26.000 But instead, we've created a culture in these large ministries and churches where the boards and the close friends, the close-knit communities are not places of healthy environments.

00:21:36.000 Instead, they're places where you get to kick anyone out that you don't like to hear.

00:21:40.000 So I'll start out with that.

00:21:41.000 But second of all, I'll just say that if we're all being honest with ourselves, there's times in our life where we have feared men more than we have feared God.

00:21:48.000 And let me just tell everyone watching, right?

00:21:50.000 You may not see the God of the heavens that created the very molecules that you are breathing under, but when you actually understand how amazing, not just amazing, but how awe-inspiring and powerful our God is, and when you start to fear him, when you start to respect him, you'll care more about what he thinks than people.

00:22:09.000 And when you get to that place, you'll realize how stupid it is that we are more worried about tithe money or our board members or our attendance numbers than we are about getting the truth out.

00:22:20.000 Let me end on this note. 0.97

00:22:22.000 There once was a large group of churches that was very silent about politics.

00:22:26.000 And they thought a man named Hitler wasn't a very big deal.

00:22:29.000 Sure, he wanted to stir some stuff up and sure he wanted to rise up in his government and do some things, but that's not the church's job, Charlie. 0.92

00:22:35.000 That's not the church's job to speak about a crazy man named Hitler.

00:22:40.000 20 years later, you have millions of people.

00:22:41.000 Yeah, but honestly, what is the so what is the call for this next generation of pastors specifically?

00:22:48.000 The call for this next generation of pastors is to accept their admittance in the army of the Lord and finally give every mountain of influence into the hands of Jesus.

00:23:01.000 If Jesus really is Lord and be an example to the people, if Jesus is Lord with our sermons, with our influence, with our pulpit, we will teach our people how to implement their faith into every area of their life, including politics.

00:23:14.000 Politics is not some separate word that is just for some special people.

00:23:18.000 Politics is really involving in every area of our life.

00:23:21.000 So if Jesus really does care about us, you know, when people came to Jesus, did he just say, oh, let me take you to the synagogue?

00:23:28.000 No, he healed their body.

00:23:29.000 He forgave them.

00:23:31.000 He helped them with their families.

00:23:32.000 He helped them with their friends.

00:23:33.000 He helped them with their job and their careers.

00:23:35.000 If Jesus is this person that we claim he is, then we better get involved in politics.

00:23:41.000 Yeah, and the ecclesia, the public square, we are called to contest in.

00:23:46.000 And do you think that, so the Judas Smith type, right, or the Levi Lusko or whoever, you know, these very weak heretical pastors are, they say you're going to lose young people.

00:23:57.000 You know, for example, Andy Stanley says this.

00:23:59.000 He says, we should never take a stand on anything that makes somebody leave the church.

00:24:04.000 That's Andy Stanley.

00:24:06.000 It's funny he said that.

00:24:07.000 And I won't get into calling out specific names, but I kind of love the fact that you do.

00:24:11.000 I do it all the time. 0.99

00:24:12.000 And they never, by the way, they're a bunch of cowards. 0.98

00:24:14.000 They're gutless wonders. 0.99

00:24:16.000 They're spineless because they're afraid of me because I don't have to play by their silly fake rules. 0.97

00:24:20.000 So I call them out, 1 Peter. 0.99

00:24:22.000 They're fake pastors.

00:24:23.000 I think you love them.

00:24:24.000 I think you love them enough to speak the truth.

00:24:26.000 No, I really, I mean, I guess I don't love their lies.

00:24:30.000 Yes.

00:24:30.000 And I like, they should go park cars or go run a coffee shop.

00:24:33.000 Here's the thing.

00:24:34.000 I don't love people that are in the ministry spewing lies.

00:24:38.000 If you run a coffee shop, I'm not going to call you out on the Trump Kirk show.

00:24:41.000 But if you're running a church, you are violating.

00:24:43.000 You're fraudulently representing who Jesus is.

00:24:46.000 It's one of the Ten Commandments, right?

00:24:47.000 Do not carry the name of the Lord, right?

00:24:50.000 It's not the word literally means.

00:24:52.000 Anyway, so I don't mean to derail nobody.

00:24:54.000 They could say the same thing to Jesus when he was calling out Pharisees and Sadducees, flipping tables, directly identifying them as the enemies of God. 0.80

00:25:02.000 The same people that claim that God is their God and the same people that so-called advertised the faith.

00:25:10.000 They were the largest denomination at the time, yet they were the same ones that crucified Christ.

00:25:15.000 Yes.

00:25:16.000 And so how, but they would say we lose Gen Zers if we talk about these things.

00:25:23.000 You've probably heard this before, right?

00:25:25.000 I mean, they would say that we will lose young people if we say that homosexuality is a sin.

00:25:32.000 Will you lose them?

00:25:33.000 Or actually, would you gain animals?

00:25:36.000 Will you lose them?

00:25:37.000 Or would you gain an audience that actually so respects your confidence?

00:25:41.000 I mean, we look at reasons.

00:25:42.000 That's exactly right.

00:25:43.000 We look at reasons why people like Andrew Tate have blown up.

00:25:47.000 And you can say, oh, just this.

00:25:49.000 He worked this way or he did this system.

00:25:51.000 A lot of defense of his conduct.

00:25:53.000 Yeah, by the way, I am not defending Andrew Tate.

00:25:56.000 We talk favorably about what he has to say all the time.

00:25:58.000 So you're fine.

00:26:00.000 So anyways, my point is, though, but you do need to ask the question, why have millions of young men and women, but all over the world so cling to what he was saying is because he was confident and he wasn't afraid to talk about many things that people were going through.

00:26:16.000 I only say that to say people respect someone that is confident and is willing to commit to something.

00:26:23.000 And that that shows authenticity.

00:26:25.000 Even if they disagree with you, if you will still be authentic, then people will at least hear you out more than ever before.

00:26:33.000 So yeah, you say that Gen Z is searching, you know, seeking out authenticity.

00:26:39.000 So what does that look like?

00:26:41.000 Well, I'll say some of the evidence of that.

00:26:43.000 We've actually recently, there was a study put out that the highest amount of high school guys are now Republican.

00:26:50.000 That's correct, praise God.

00:26:51.000 Of which I think Turning Point USA has a part a part to be complimented in that.

00:26:55.000 But my point here is that there is really a cry for people who will speak the truth.

00:27:02.000 And when it comes to, are we going to lose Gen Z?

00:27:03.000 Are you going to lose them?

00:27:04.000 Or have you already lost them according to the logic you've been using?

00:27:07.000 Yes.

00:27:08.000 Well, no, that's what I agree.

00:27:09.000 I mean, so seeker-sensitive Christianity is a thing. 0.93

00:27:15.000 And so they've been running the church for 30 years.

00:27:19.000 And we are the least religious we've ever been.

00:27:22.000 We take Christianity the least seriously.

00:27:24.000 So how's that seeker-sensitive stuff working for you?

00:27:26.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:27:27.000 And also, even if they were to somehow keep an audience, what are you keeping an audience for?

00:27:32.000 Because last I checked, you wouldn't be keeping an audience for a Jesus that is Lord that you've abdicated and you've been so afraid to talk about stuff.

00:27:41.000 So even if you do keep millions, what are you keeping millions for?

00:27:45.000 Your own doeboy Christianity? 0.98

00:27:47.000 Exactly for their tithes and offerings.

00:27:49.000 And I want to compliment you.

00:27:51.000 Most young Christian influencers are just nauseating and just they really don't get it.

00:27:56.000 And they're like, well, we have to frame that we actually love the trans. 0.95

00:28:00.000 It's like, I'm just so done with all that.

00:28:04.000 And so, I mean, it's refreshing for someone that actually wants to reach the next generation with truth.

00:28:10.000 Yeah, I would say, I would actually throw in a little bit of a nuance to that.

00:28:15.000 I would say I love trans people enough to not let them walk off the cliff that leads them to their death. 1.00

00:28:21.000 And I really believe that we as the church should not be at the place where we just tap out of everything and just say, oh, whatever.

00:28:28.000 But instead, we need to genuinely show the real love, which is one that isn't willing to compromise the truth in the name of a fake, redefined love and acceptance.

00:28:40.000 So I really think what you're getting at, Charlie, is you're tired of people perverting the truth.

00:28:46.000 You're tired of people making good, bad, and bad, good.

00:28:49.000 Yeah, as it says in the scriptures, man will do right in his own eyes.

00:28:52.000 Actually says that in Romans 1, that they will call bad, good, and good, bad.

00:28:57.000 And I mean, I'm not really in the church world.

00:29:01.000 I mean, I kind of go in and out.

00:29:04.000 I see enough, but I do not see a church that is willing to contest for the culture largely.

00:29:10.000 I see a retreat.

00:29:11.000 Is that you're more in that space than I am.

00:29:13.000 Is that fair to say right now?

00:29:14.000 I would say I'm guessing you're speaking broadly.

00:29:17.000 Broadly, of course, because I know there are some micro churches.

00:29:20.000 I mean, I can name a hundred good ones that we're doing at TPSA faith.

00:29:23.000 But yeah, I mean, broadly not.

00:29:25.000 Oh, broadly, it is not just that.

00:29:27.000 I mean, broadly, the church has been struggling.

00:29:30.000 And, you know, they've abdicated and they've compromised so much.

00:29:33.000 And they're still, numbers are still declining and places of influence are still declining.

00:29:38.000 And so I think it really just goes to show how if when we really understand the real love that God has for us, we won't be afraid to pluck off the leaves and correct ourselves.

00:29:51.000 Because let me tell you what's a lot better than the judgment we will pay sitting before the throne of God is the judgment we need to give ourselves now, is the correction we need to give ourselves now.

00:30:00.000 And so to any church or pastor or Christian out there just watching this, we do need to love like never before.

00:30:06.000 We need to love God's way and we need to love with the truth and we need to not be afraid to stand on his side.

00:30:12.000 Amen.

00:30:12.000 Tell us about your book.

00:30:13.000 Yeah.

00:30:14.000 So as I look across friends my age, a little bit older and even younger, we're witnessing a generation that doesn't know who they are anymore that is crying out.

00:30:24.000 And that's why we've seen the highest percentage.

00:30:26.000 I think now 25% of Generation Z is in the LGBTQ.

00:30:30.000 And it's because...

00:30:31.000 Yeah, it's the gayest generation ever. 1.00

00:30:33.000 It's because people are hurting and broken and the alphabet mafia is instantly there to take them up and instantly there to give them an identity that obviously isn't truthful, but it is of manipulating. 0.87

00:30:45.000 And so this message titled Build Different, 90 Days to Becoming All God Wants You to Be, is a 90-day devotional to really solidify your identity.

00:30:52.000 And I know like you probably maybe might be a Christian or already Christian, but it really solidifies who God has made you to be, the DNA he has laid out for you and the plan that he has for our lives and how to discipline ourselves to get the job done.

00:31:05.000 How to walk in your career, how to hear his voice, how to see yourself and how to find the right person.

00:31:11.000 I recently got married and I'm thankful God gave me some tips on how to find that right person.

00:31:16.000 And so just a bunch of your questions as a young person, you're asking yourself right now, you need this devotional or get into the hands of God.

00:31:23.000 What is your favorite book of the Bible?

00:31:24.000 Yeah.

00:31:25.000 I would say Ephesians.

00:31:26.000 Oh, wow.

00:31:27.000 Okay.

00:31:27.000 Yes.

00:31:28.000 Paul's letter to Ephesus.

00:31:29.000 Ephesians.

00:31:30.000 Why do you like that so much?

00:31:31.000 It has the two most, one of the two most powerful prayers you could pray.

00:31:35.000 I dare you, Charlie.

00:31:36.000 Dare me.

00:31:36.000 30 days.

00:31:37.000 Greta Thunberg.

00:31:39.000 He is Gen Z. I'm kidding.

00:31:41.000 I dare you for 30 days.

00:31:42.000 Sorry, I'm just having to handle the fact you just associated me with Greta.

00:31:46.000 So Ephesians chapter 1, verses 15 to 21 and Ephesians chapter 3, 15 to 21.

00:31:51.000 And everyone watching, if you will pray that prayer every day for 30 days, you will witness some of the most amazing revelations from just reading the Bible than ever before.

00:32:02.000 Isn't the armor of God in Ephesians, I'm not mistaken?

00:32:05.000 It is, yes.

00:32:05.000 Yeah, okay.

00:32:06.000 Yeah, Ephesians 5.

00:32:07.000 Yeah, I believe so.

00:32:09.000 It's a great book.

00:32:11.000 We have a lot of guests.

00:32:12.000 I usually ask, I almost never get Ephesians.

00:32:14.000 That's beautiful.

00:32:15.000 Guess you don't have any Christian.

00:32:16.000 No, I'm joking.

00:32:17.000 No, I mean, we get other books, dude.

00:32:19.000 I'm totally joking.

00:32:20.000 Yes.

00:32:21.000 So talk about the blessing of the daily reading of scripture and what that's meant for your life.

00:32:26.000 Yeah.

00:32:27.000 So it's funny, actually.

00:32:28.000 Scientists have studied this, that those who read their Bible at least four times a week have been found to be more peaceful, joyful, less stressed, less in anxiety.

00:32:41.000 They're more figured out.

00:32:42.000 They're more rooted.

00:32:43.000 And the reason is because the Bible is the only book that is a mirror back at yourself.

00:32:48.000 That's right.

00:32:48.000 Where you will finally find yourself as you find God.

00:32:52.000 Even we've seen amazing guys like Jordan Peterson touch on this in his Genesis Exodus.

00:32:57.000 But as you, it's the only objective truth that the world will only have.

00:33:03.000 It's the only thing that will always stand with us after everything else passes away.

00:33:06.000 And you couldn't do anything more important than put yourself into that objective truth.

00:33:12.000 It's beautiful.

00:33:13.000 So for people out there that are not Christians or have gone away from the church, what is your message today?

00:33:19.000 I would just say, how about you give Jesus an opportunity?

00:33:23.000 How about you just sit back and what do you have to lose?

00:33:26.000 You've tried everything else.

00:33:27.000 You've gone after every other opportunity.

00:33:29.000 You've listened to everyone else.

00:33:31.000 How about you just sit back and give Jesus not just a chance, but why don't you just give him a yes?

00:33:36.000 Why don't you just accept this opportunity and just understand how amazing he is, how good he is, and how he changes everything.

00:33:45.000 And he's found in life himself.

00:33:47.000 And yeah, why not?

00:33:49.000 What's holding you back?

00:33:50.000 Why not just doubt the doubt you have?

00:33:52.000 Let's call it Spluff.

00:33:53.000 Are you going to be encouraging Christians to get involved in the political process this next election?

00:33:58.000 Oh, to say the least.

00:34:00.000 And that's starting out with, I'm so surprised to know most Christians aren't even registered to vote.

00:34:05.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:34:05.000 Like, I'm not even here to tell you.

00:34:07.000 I shouldn't have to spell out who to vote for.

00:34:09.000 Like, if you're don't vote for Democrats.

00:34:13.000 No, but like, if you'll really hear the heart of Father God, like, we shouldn't even be having to spell it out for you guys.

00:34:19.000 You guys should be already with it.

00:34:20.000 Now we will, because people need it.

00:34:22.000 But, but you get what I'm saying, though.

00:34:24.000 It's like, man, if you dive into the word of God yourself, you will be just like us.

00:34:28.000 You will be preaching the truth everywhere you go, whether you're a preacher or not.

00:34:32.000 Whatever you're doing in your career or path or education, you will be committed to loving God and loving people through truth.

00:34:40.000 Amen.

00:34:41.000 Gabe Poirot, your book is built different.

00:34:43.000 Is that right?

00:34:44.000 Yes.

00:34:44.000 Available, Barnes and Noble, Amazon, everywhere.

00:34:47.000 Doing a wonderful job.

00:34:49.000 Really appreciate it.

00:34:50.000 And, you know, you look at the Gen Z group.

00:34:54.000 Just think this.

00:34:55.000 Do you want your grandson, you, if you're in Gen Z, to be influenced by Dylan Mulvaney or from Gabe Poirot?

00:35:04.000 How many followers does Dylan Mulvaney have?

00:35:06.000 A lot?

00:35:06.000 Too many.

00:35:07.000 I don't know how many is it?

00:35:08.000 Is it like tens of millions?

00:35:09.000 Definitely millions.

00:35:11.000 Definitely in the millions.

00:35:12.000 As much as I want to say I watch them every day, I don't.

00:35:14.000 I can't give you an answer.

00:35:17.000 Yeah.

00:35:18.000 So email is freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:20.000 Gabe, appreciate you, man.

00:35:21.000 Great work.

00:35:22.000 And we'll be doing some stuff together.

00:35:24.000 Everybody, there is hope for Generation Z.

00:35:26.000 And again, it's Gabe Poirot.

00:35:28.000 Check out his book, Built Different.

00:35:29.000 God bless you guys and see you tomorrow.

00:35:34.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 09, 2023

Getting Saved on TikTok? with Gabe Poirot

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