The Charlie Kirk Show - Getting the American Youth Back in the Game

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Sunday.

00:00:01.000 My conversation at the University of Wyoming.

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00:00:32.000 Here we go.

00:00:34.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:32.000 All right, great to be here, everybody.

00:01:34.000 Lots to cover, of course.

00:01:36.000 Thank you, Joe Bob, for the introduction.

00:01:37.000 Thank you to our wonderful Turning Point USA chapter for putting this on.

00:01:41.000 Give it up for the chapter.

00:01:42.000 They work so hard.

00:01:47.000 Thank you to the university for hosting us.

00:01:50.000 It's been amazing to work with all you guys.

00:01:51.000 And, yeah, it's going to be fun.

00:01:53.000 We'll do some question and answer.

00:01:54.000 Hopefully there are some liberals in Wyoming.

00:01:56.000 Are there a couple?

00:01:57.000 I don't know.

00:01:57.000 Maybe or not.

00:01:57.000 We'll see.

00:01:58.000 If not, we could just have a great time talking the entire time.

00:02:01.000 Okay, so a couple things I want to talk about.

00:02:06.000 First of all, there's so much noise going around the Trump presidency.

00:02:10.000 I want to focus on four things that President Trump has done that is going to make America a more competitive country that is going to impact everybody in this room when it comes to hiring practices, the military, and it's four things that you might not even recognize or realize.

00:02:25.000 You might have heard these terms before, but they're very important.

00:02:28.000 And they're executive orders that President Trump has signed.

00:02:31.000 Regarding critical race theory, affirmative action, disparate impact, and also the backbone of all of them, which really people don't talk about a lot, which is DEI.

00:02:41.000 I mean, they're talking about it in recent times, but what exactly does DEI mean?

00:02:44.000 So these four things together, I kind of call the four horsemen of the anti-racism monster that has been taking over this country.

00:02:54.000 Now, why does this impact all of you?

00:02:56.000 Very simply, we as conservatives have a super simple belief.

00:02:59.000 We believe that when you hire somebody, you should hire based on skill and character, not on skin color.

00:03:05.000 Skin color should not matter when you hire or when you accept somebody into a school, period.

00:03:11.000 When you're trying to accept somebody into college or accept somebody into the military, it does not matter with the color, the skin of the person that you are communicating with.

00:03:19.000 It matters, can they do the job?

00:03:21.000 Are they competent?

00:03:23.000 are they qualified?

00:03:24.000 Over the last couple of decades in America, we've seen When meritocracy is not prioritized, a country will descend into mediocrity.

00:03:35.000 And these four things together very well might be well-intentioned.

00:03:38.000 And I'll explain kind of how they play one into the other.

00:03:41.000 The first of which is critical race theory.

00:03:42.000 We don't have to spend too much time on this.

00:03:43.000 This is the philosophical backbone.

00:03:45.000 It basically is a belief that America is super racist to its core.

00:03:49.000 Racism is normative.

00:03:51.000 There's really nothing we can do to get rid of it except become like anti-racist.

00:03:55.000 Fighters ourselves.

00:03:56.000 In fact, Ibram X. Kendi, who's kind of one of the scholars of the anti-racism machine, has said that the answer to past discrimination is more discrimination.

00:04:07.000 So we need to discriminate against white people because black people were once discriminated against.

00:04:11.000 Essentially, it's now time for us to be racist because some people were racist a long time ago.

00:04:16.000 We kind of look at that and say, wait a second, if racism was wrong then, then racism is wrong today, so we should not have any racism, period, so on and so forth.

00:04:23.000 But anyway, the belief system of critical race theory is taught in many schools.

00:04:26.000 Thankfully, President Trump signed an executive order saying CRT will nobly be taught in any schools that receive federal or taxpayer funding.

00:04:33.000 A major victory, something very significant.

00:04:36.000 So, we start with CRT.

00:04:41.000 Out of CRT, of course, then became affirmative action.

00:04:44.000 This is something that probably everybody in this audience knows about.

00:04:46.000 You've heard about affirmative action.

00:04:47.000 You think you know what it is.

00:04:49.000 It's actually deeply unpopular with the American people.

00:04:52.000 At Harvard, we know exactly how affirmative action worked.

00:04:55.000 If you were a white student applying to Harvard, according to the Students for Fair Admission Supreme Court case, you had...

00:05:08.000 In fact, a black student was able to get in with a 100 point less SAT score than a white student and 300 points less than Asians.

00:05:15.000 Poor Asians.

00:05:16.000 They just can't get ahead.

00:05:17.000 It's too bad.

00:05:19.000 And it's amazing.

00:05:21.000 You look at this, and we're discriminating against another minority because we're trying to be anti-racist.

00:05:26.000 The Supreme Court actually ruled this was unconstitutional.

00:05:30.000 They struck it down and they said, we're not going to have affirmative action in our country anymore.

00:05:34.000 Now, and it should be applauded.

00:05:35.000 The problem is a lot of schools ignored it.

00:05:38.000 And still to this day they ignored it.

00:05:39.000 And President Trump signed an executive order saying, actually no, Supreme Court ruled you're not allowed to do this.

00:05:44.000 And so when you applied for college or when you apply for law school, if you guys want to go to law school, and if you are a white male, you should not have points taken off of your LSAT based on the color of your skin.

00:05:56.000 Let me break this down even further.

00:05:58.000 You should not be penalized based on things you cannot change no matter how hard you try.

00:06:03.000 Now, I'm not discounting that some people come from different backgrounds, but you can actually change your circumstance even if you come from a bad background.

00:06:09.000 You can't change that you're white.

00:06:11.000 Well, some people try, but you can't change that you're white.

00:06:14.000 Nor should you actually want to change if you're white.

00:06:17.000 This whole idea that you're bad if you're white and you're bad that you're a man.

00:06:21.000 Actually, no, God made you that way.

00:06:23.000 And stop calling that person racist just because they're of a white skin color.

00:06:27.000 And that you're told that they're racist.

00:06:28.000 I think it's disgusting and reprehensible to its core.

00:06:31.000 So affirmative action.

00:06:32.000 The second of which you probably hear a lot of, and that is DEI.

00:06:35.000 DEI is the slow-moving bureaucracy that has found itself in so many institutions.

00:06:41.000 Thrilled, by the way, University of Wyoming got rid of its DEI office, so that's great.

00:06:44.000 Credit on University of Wyoming.

00:06:45.000 It's great.

00:06:47.000 In fact, my friend Karen here, I even looked at it ahead of time.

00:06:51.000 I was like, this better be gone.

00:06:52.000 It's gone.

00:06:53.000 Good.

00:06:53.000 And if it's not, you guys can get in the question line and tell me all about it.

00:06:57.000 Which is, the DEI is these forced diversity departments, and they are the commissars, they are the enforcement arm of the belief of critical race theory.

00:07:07.000 These are where you have to sit through these endless seminars to learn how to be an anti-racist.

00:07:11.000 This is where you could be fired by using the wrong pronouns.

00:07:14.000 This is where they say, well, we want to try to have 10% of our workforce be a certain color.

00:07:20.000 This makes us less competitive, and it actually makes us more tribal.

00:07:23.000 It makes us less likely to create a community that is based on what matters most, which is why are we here?

00:07:29.000 Are you trying to build an institution of excellence or one where everyone looks different but thinks the same?

00:07:36.000 As Bill Maher told me on his podcast, he said, the left wants college campuses to look like Angelina Jolie's Christmas card, where it's just...

00:07:46.000 I care about, most importantly, what is the character?

00:07:49.000 What is the work ethic?

00:07:51.000 What are you going to bring to the table?

00:07:52.000 What is your skill?

00:07:53.000 What is your intellect?

00:07:54.000 What is your IQ?

00:07:55.000 And most importantly in all of that, as a Christian, what are the values that you bring?

00:08:01.000 Are you a good person?

00:08:02.000 Are you going to tell the truth?

00:08:03.000 You know none of that based on the color of somebody's skin.

00:08:06.000 None of it.

00:08:07.000 In fact, if you think you know that based on the color of somebody's skin, we have a word for that.

00:08:13.000 In fact, That's literally what CRT and DEI and Affirmative Action is, is those things embodied, which is, of course, racism.

00:08:20.000 So DEI.

00:08:21.000 Then finally, what President Trump signed yesterday is the most important 1, 2, 3, 4, which is this thing called disparate impact.

00:08:29.000 Now this gets a little bit wonky, and this goes back about 50 years from an executive order signed by Richard Nixon and Lyndon Baines Johnson.

00:08:37.000 This is the legal theory that supports this kind of So remember, we have affirmative action, which is how they do it in practice.

00:08:45.000 DEI, which is kind of the slow-moving corporate policing of the jobs that you will get.

00:08:51.000 And then, of course, critical race theory, which is the philosophical backbone.

00:08:55.000 and then we have disparate impact, which is the legal theory that lets this all happen.

00:08:59.000 Disparate impact of all the things is one of those that has...

00:09:09.000 And here's what it is.

00:09:10.000 If there is anything that can show that a certain racial group that's minority has a different impact, the answer must be racism.

00:09:19.000 So therefore, if you have, for example, let's just take the wealth gap, income gap, how good black students are at algebra.

00:09:30.000 If anything shows that a certain group is not doing as well as another group, The answer must be racism and we must get rid of it.

00:09:38.000 That is called disparate impact.

00:09:39.000 So it's not about equality of opportunity.

00:09:41.000 It's that they actually want equality of outcome.

00:09:44.000 That there must be something wrong with the test.

00:09:47.000 Think about it this way.

00:09:49.000 Disparate impact would be basically getting rid of the test when a student fails instead of failing the student and keeping the test.

00:10:00.000 Basically saying, well, there must be something wrong with the test because, you know, XYZ group doesn't do as well.

00:10:07.000 When in reality, there's never been a test created where all groups do the same.

00:10:11.000 We have differences.

00:10:12.000 Men and women have differences.

00:10:14.000 You're going to have different outcomes over time.

00:10:16.000 And by the way, the most important differences, mind you, are not racial differences.

00:10:20.000 You know what they are?

00:10:20.000 Whether or not you have two parents in your house when you're growing up.

00:10:23.000 That's actually the most important.

00:10:25.000 Those differences actually shrink when black students have moms and dads around, when Hispanics have moms or dads around, when you have single moms raising millions and millions of black youth in this country, you start to see the data go in a very negative direction.

00:10:38.000 So disparate impact basically is this.

00:10:41.000 If you succeed in a test as a white student, that test must have been rigged racially in your favor, and we have to get rid of that test.

00:10:49.000 I want you to think and contemplate how insane that must be.

00:10:53.000 And how compromising that is.

00:10:54.000 President Trump yesterday, in the Oval Office, signed an executive order undoing 50 years of damage of that policy in the federal government, getting rid of it completely.

00:11:04.000 So all that to say, what is the country we want to live in?

00:11:10.000 And I want to try to articulate that, and then let's do some questions.

00:11:13.000 Which is, we want to live in a country that is not just competitive, but that is going to beat China.

00:11:19.000 China doesn't mess around with any of this stuff.

00:11:22.000 China plays to win.

00:11:23.000 Now, China's totalitarian.

00:11:25.000 So our issue, not our problem, but we are a free society trying to compete with a totalitarian country.

00:11:31.000 Now, the fact that we're a free society is actually a competitive edge.

00:11:34.000 We'll start more companies.

00:11:35.000 We'll have more unique ideas.

00:11:37.000 Our people will be more creative.

00:11:38.000 We'll have more ingenuity.

00:11:39.000 But the issue when we go up against China is they could say from a decree, they could be like, yeah, we're not doing any of this victim-based critical race theory, affirmative action, disparate impact.

00:11:48.000 We're not doing any of that.

00:11:49.000 We're going to be a country based on excellence.

00:11:51.000 And it really is a question as we enter in to the remainder of this century, for those of you that are 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 years old, the type of country that we want to live in is the one that we've lost that we want to try to get back.

00:12:06.000 Which is, if you have a certain circumstance, and it might not be as diverse as you'd like, you should ask the question, but is it excellent?

00:12:16.000 And if it's not diverse, but it's excellent, Then that's okay.

00:12:20.000 Because we prioritize excellence over diversity.

00:12:24.000 Because this idea that the pigmentation of your skin is what is going to make us stronger and better is actually a faulty premise from its core.

00:12:33.000 For example, you go look at the moon landing.

00:12:36.000 Room after room after room are these people that were incredible at astrophysics and the smartest mathematicians imaginable.

00:12:43.000 But if you go watch that, some people would teach and say, well look, those are just rooms full of white dudes.

00:12:48.000 You know?

00:12:51.000 A lot of white dudes that founded this country.

00:12:53.000 The question is, does it really matter, the color of their skin?

00:12:55.000 No, it actually doesn't.

00:12:57.000 Instead, what should matter is, what are you accomplishing?

00:13:00.000 Is that the configuration of the melanin content of what you actually put together is irrelevant.

00:13:06.000 President Trump ran against many different things back in November.

00:13:09.000 And I'm so pleased that he put this on the ballot.

00:13:11.000 And here's the hopeful news.

00:13:13.000 Yes, President Trump has secured the southern border, and we have stopped the invasion on the southern border, which is amazing and must be mentioned and noticed.

00:13:21.000 President Trump also ran on no men in female sports, and he ran on drill, baby, drill, and he ran on getting rid of the chemical castration of our kids.

00:13:32.000 All of this is amazing.

00:13:34.000 But he also put woke on the ballot.

00:13:36.000 Now, what is woke?

00:13:37.000 Call something racist till you control it.

00:13:39.000 That's what woke is.

00:13:40.000 Write it down.

00:13:40.000 Commit it to memory.

00:13:41.000 That's what it is.

00:13:42.000 Call something racist until you control it.

00:13:44.000 That's racist.

00:13:46.000 That's racist.

00:13:46.000 Give me the keys.

00:13:47.000 That's woke.

00:13:49.000 So it's a means to power.

00:13:51.000 And President Trump put that on a referendum.

00:13:53.000 And here is the most optimistic thing.

00:13:55.000 The American people saw this, measured it, weighed it, and said, you know what?

00:14:00.000 Actually, I don't want to live in a race-obsessed country.

00:14:02.000 So I'm 31 years old, and I can tell you my upbringing 15 years ago, we talked about race way less and it was a better country.

00:14:09.000 I grew up in a very racially diverse part of Chicago, suburbs of Chicago.

00:14:13.000 Over a hundred different countries' nationalities represented.

00:14:16.000 It wasn't a priority.

00:14:17.000 It wasn't an obsession.

00:14:18.000 It wasn't white privilege walks.

00:14:20.000 And I'm going to tell you that you're a terrible person.

00:14:22.000 Instead it was actually, okay, that's cool, tell me where you're from, different cultures.

00:14:25.000 But what makes us strong is not the diversity, it's actually the unity.

00:14:28.000 What makes us strong is not the differences, it's actually the harmony.

00:14:32.000 What makes us strong is, can we bring people from different backgrounds and combine them when actually those backgrounds are not as important?

00:14:38.000 And that goes down to the key promise of what we as conservatives believe in.

00:14:43.000 As Dennis Prager would say, I think Dennis has spoke here before in this auditorium, if I'm not mistaken.

00:14:47.000 He would say that America has a trinity.

00:14:49.000 In God we trust, liberty, and that last phrase, e pluribus unum.

00:14:54.000 That is a Latin phrase.

00:14:55.000 Our founding fathers believed in it.

00:14:57.000 It means, out of many, one.

00:14:59.000 The Founding Fathers detested faction.

00:15:03.000 Factions, especially racial factions, will bring down your country quicker than anything else.

00:15:09.000 If you want to sink the United States of America, teach kids about race all the time and have them race-obsessed.

00:15:15.000 If you want the United States to thrive and be the greatest nation on the planet continuing for the next 20 or 30 years, de-emphasize race.

00:15:23.000 Be like, yeah, of course you see it, but that's actually not who somebody is.

00:15:26.000 Instead, it matters how they act.

00:15:28.000 It matters who they are.

00:15:29.000 It matters what they bring to the table.

00:15:31.000 It matters their soul.

00:15:32.000 Because in God's economy, skin color actually doesn't matter to God.

00:15:36.000 He says, neither slave nor Greek nor Jew, we're all one in Christ Jesus.

00:15:39.000 It's a statement of universal human equality.

00:15:41.000 It's one that God loves all of us regardless of how we look and how we're configured.

00:15:46.000 And if we want to go the way of hyper-tribalism, there's nothing elevated about that.

00:15:49.000 That's actually a regression.

00:15:51.000 Almost every other country in the world lives in the second and third world poverty.

00:15:55.000 They'll have tribes that will govern.

00:15:57.000 Or the Middle Eastern countries, African countries.

00:15:59.000 That's very uninteresting to me, and it should be to you.

00:16:01.000 The question is, how can we actually rise above that?

00:16:04.000 How can we be a better country?

00:16:05.000 And President Trump, to his great credit, because they're calling him a racist for undoing the most racist stuff that we've actually had on the books.

00:16:12.000 And let me tell you why.

00:16:14.000 Because in critical race theory, they believe you cannot be racist against white people.

00:16:18.000 Let me tell you, you can be racist against anybody.

00:16:20.000 You can be racist against black people, and you absolutely can be racist against white people.

00:16:25.000 And anti-white racism has been growing like crazy the last 10 years in this country.

00:16:28.000 And the reason they say that is, well, white people are in charge, and so racism is a power dynamic, and therefore you're not able to be racist against a group that is in charge.

00:16:36.000 That's complete rubbish.

00:16:37.000 We know that.

00:16:38.000 When somebody is prejudicing somebody or stereotyping based on the color of their skin, solely based on the color of their skin, that is textbook racism.

00:16:46.000 And so this really is a question of the type of nation we want to live in.

00:16:49.000 But here is the final good news.

00:16:51.000 For all of you now entering corporate America, for all of you that, and by the way, we have people all different skin colors here.

00:16:56.000 You should want this stuff gone too.

00:16:58.000 You know why?

00:16:59.000 You should want to enter into an environment where you don't get extra points just because you're melanin content.

00:17:05.000 You want to always be viewed as someone who did earn it and not someone who didn't earn it.

00:17:09.000 That's what DEI really stands for.

00:17:11.000 Didn't earn it, by the way.

00:17:12.000 Which is to get down to the core and the essence of the matter.

00:17:17.000 It is a hopeful time.

00:17:19.000 It's not going to be easy.

00:17:20.000 Some judge is probably going to enjoin this, and it's going to go all the way up to the Supreme Court.

00:17:23.000 But the American promise is one that remains clear, which is that we want to value hard work above tribal identity.

00:17:31.000 We want to value grit and hustle and character above just what do you look like.

00:17:37.000 What you look like is actually infants.

00:17:40.000 We want to elevate above that.

00:17:42.000 We want to be more sophisticated.

00:17:43.000 In fact, this is a fight for Western civilization.

00:17:46.000 A fight that, praise God, President Trump is taking to the left every single day.

00:17:50.000 And this is one of his greatest successes so far.

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00:18:56.000 Okay, so we'll do some questions here.

00:18:58.000 If you guys disagree, we'll bring you to the front of the line, and then we'll do some Q&A.

00:19:04.000 And yeah, let's begin here.

00:19:08.000 My name is Ethan Casper and about a month ago I toured Turning Point USA and when I was on my tour I talked to a lot of your employees and a lot of them went to college and so I was wondering why would you not hire someone like-minded as you?

00:19:31.000 Oh, that's a good question.

00:19:33.000 Yeah, just so you know, we don't require a college degree to work at Turning Point USA, but that's a good question.

00:19:37.000 A lot of people that work for us are actually graduates of college.

00:19:40.000 Just so you guys know, I'm not like the biggest fan of college, if you haven't noticed that.

00:19:43.000 I wrote a whole book called The College Scam, except University of Wyoming, Karen.

00:19:46.000 I love this place.

00:19:47.000 It's great.

00:19:48.000 So, of course.

00:19:49.000 So, I gotta have a carve out.

00:19:53.000 But my main contention is this.

00:19:55.000 Know why you are here.

00:19:56.000 Don't go to college to discover yourself.

00:19:58.000 Don't go to college to find yourself.

00:20:00.000 Bad idea.

00:20:01.000 And definitely don't borrow a bunch of money to go study things that don't matter, to go find jobs that don't exist.

00:20:06.000 And so, equally, and I think the Wyoming hard work culture will appreciate this, we need actually more people that are entrepreneurs, more people that work with their hands, we need more electricians, we need more plumbers, we need more carpenters in this country.

00:20:22.000 And so, we need as a culture to stop looking down.

00:20:28.000 On people that don't have a four-year degree.

00:20:33.000 We need to say just because you don't have a piece of paper doesn't mean you're not allowed in the Cool Kids Club.

00:20:40.000 In fact, one thing that I am pushing President Trump on, and I think he signed an executive order on this, it's that it shouldn't be a requirement to go to college to even work in the federal government.

00:20:51.000 And let me be also clear.

00:20:52.000 It's not that all colleges are bad.

00:20:54.000 It's just that oftentimes many colleges are a waste.

00:20:58.000 A waste of your time and a waste of your treasure.

00:21:01.000 Those are four of your most valuable years of life.

00:21:03.000 And if you're spending them and you're getting a lot out of it, great.

00:21:05.000 But I go to college campuses so you guys don't have to, okay?

00:21:09.000 I go to the most liberal places on the planet.

00:21:12.000 And so many kids leave with regret, less energy, more debt, more confusion about the world.

00:21:19.000 And I look at these amazing 18-year-olds, I say, boy, I wish that they would be given an environment where they're supercharged for four years, not weighed down.

00:21:28.000 And demoralized after four years.

00:21:30.000 God bless you, man.

00:21:31.000 I hope you'll work for Turning Point USA one day.

00:21:32.000 Thank you.

00:21:33.000 Thank you.

00:21:39.000 Good evening, Charlie.

00:21:41.000 My name is Remington Coltis, and I had the pleasure of spending the day with your wonderful Turning Point USA chapter.

00:21:46.000 Your name's Remington.

00:21:48.000 That's the most Wyoming name I've ever heard in history.

00:21:51.000 My old man was a Marine.

00:21:53.000 Thank you for your service.

00:21:54.000 And by the way, we have a family from the Abbey Gate.

00:21:57.000 I think they're here somewhere.

00:21:58.000 God bless you guys.

00:21:59.000 Terrible situation.

00:22:00.000 Lost their life.

00:22:02.000 Their loved one lost their life at Abbey Gate in Kabul, Afghanistan.

00:22:06.000 Never should have happened under Joe Biden.

00:22:08.000 So thank you for being here, guys.

00:22:09.000 God bless you, and thank you for your service.

00:22:11.000 Thank you.

00:22:11.000 Please.

00:22:12.000 Absolutely.

00:22:13.000 And thank you so much for saying that, Charlie.

00:22:16.000 That means so much.

00:22:18.000 So the reason I came here today is because I wrote a book.

00:22:22.000 For my very young infant son that I intend to give to him when he is a teenager.

00:22:27.000 I was raised without a father and many of us were.

00:22:31.000 And in this book I detail a lot of the things that a child should know, should learn from his father.

00:22:36.000 And I've left a copy of that with your wonderful Turning Point USA chapter.

00:22:40.000 I was hoping you would do me the honor of reading it before I finalize it.

00:22:45.000 Thank you.

00:22:45.000 I will.

00:22:46.000 Thank you.

00:22:46.000 Thank you, sir.

00:22:47.000 And I'll just say one thing.

00:22:48.000 The fact you were raised without a father, you now have unique opportunity.

00:22:52.000 To give the blessing that you never had, which I think will heal a lot of maybe of the regret or sorrow, frustration that you might have been raised with.

00:22:59.000 And that's my advice to young men all the time that were raised without fathers, that don't walk around being bitter.

00:23:05.000 Look and aim yourself to be the father that you wish you would have had.

00:23:08.000 And that is the most beautiful way to kind of complete the circle and make the world a profoundly better place.

00:23:13.000 So God bless you, man.

00:23:14.000 Thank you so much.

00:23:15.000 God bless you.

00:23:16.000 Praise Jesus Christ.

00:23:17.000 Thank you.

00:23:23.000 Hello, Mr. Kirk.

00:23:24.000 I'm here to ask you about, I'm assuming you are a big fan of RFK Jr.

00:23:29.000 And just a few days ago, he made a speech about autism.

00:23:32.000 And in that, he made some very specific things, claiming that autism has increased, which is true.

00:23:39.000 Rates of diagnosis have increased.

00:23:41.000 But he has also stated that autistic people are unable to pay taxes, unable to take care of themselves, and are a net drain to society.

00:23:48.000 That's not what he said.

00:23:48.000 He said some autistic people, which of course is true.

00:23:51.000 He emphasized most of them.

00:23:54.000 Yes, he did.

00:23:55.000 You know that's not true, man.

00:23:57.000 You know that he did.

00:23:59.000 I saw the video.

00:24:00.000 You did too.

00:24:01.000 That's what he stated.

00:24:02.000 It's called the spectrum for a reason, right?

00:24:04.000 I would know that.

00:24:05.000 I'm on the spectrum.

00:24:07.000 Great.

00:24:09.000 Fine.

00:24:12.000 Congratulations.

00:24:13.000 I mean, I don't know what to tell you.

00:24:16.000 It's completely irrelevant information.

00:24:18.000 It gives information because I should know more about this than the average person.

00:24:22.000 That's my credentials compared to you.

00:24:25.000 So I should know more about this than you do.

00:24:26.000 Okay, but again, Bobby Kennedy, who spent his entire life trying to get to the root cause of autism, I think you should agree we should try to find that out, right?

00:24:35.000 We already know.

00:24:36.000 It's a genetic issue.

00:24:37.000 It just so happens to show up in people.

00:24:40.000 Hold on.

00:24:40.000 So if that's the case, why is it that autism was 1 in 30,000 in the 1970s and now it's 1 in 27 people?

00:24:47.000 That's simple.

00:24:48.000 We had COVID.

00:24:49.000 The lockdown, which affected people.

00:24:51.000 Let me speak.

00:24:53.000 Let me speak.

00:24:54.000 During COVID, people isolated.

00:24:57.000 They didn't socialize with other people.

00:24:59.000 and they developed similar traits such as being unable to maintain eye contact and fidgeting, which are generally associated with autism.

00:25:08.000 Now, that is part of the reason why we have...

00:25:11.000 higher rates of high functioning autistic people and the rates of low functioning autistic people have stayed relatively stagnant.

00:25:19.000 Respectfully, then.

00:25:22.000 Why did the rate go up so much from 1990 to 2020 then?

00:25:26.000 No COVID.

00:25:27.000 It's because people were being diagnosed more.

00:25:29.000 We had more exposure to it in comparison.

00:25:31.000 The test is exactly the same.

00:25:32.000 The test does not change.

00:25:32.000 We're testing more people.

00:25:34.000 If it's become normalized in society and more people are being tested for it, then more people are going to be diagnosed with it.

00:25:41.000 This has been widespread debunked in many ways.

00:25:43.000 No, it hasn't.

00:25:44.000 But testing better made sense for a while.

00:25:48.000 But then if it keeps going up over a period of time when the test doesn't change, then there's probably an environmental factor.

00:25:55.000 And I gave you the environmental factor.

00:25:57.000 Right, so it's just genes.

00:25:58.000 Never said it was genes.

00:26:00.000 The reason why we have had higher rates of autism, specifically in the last few years, is because of lockdown and not socializing with others.

00:26:09.000 If we had similar statistics from back when the lockdowns from Spanish flu, we would observe similar higher rates of autism.

00:26:15.000 Just so we're clear, it was 1 in 33. Kids around 2019, and now it's 1 in 27. So it went from 1 in 27,000 to 1 in about 33, and now 1 in 27. So you go from 1 in 27,000 all the way down to almost 1,000 times increase.

00:26:35.000 There's something probably causing it, and I'm not even saying it's vaccines.

00:26:39.000 I don't know that.

00:26:40.000 Some people believe it.

00:26:41.000 Some people don't believe that.

00:26:42.000 Well, we know it's not vaccines.

00:26:43.000 The original study was redacted 20 years ago.

00:26:46.000 That you don't know.

00:26:47.000 Yes, we do.

00:26:48.000 Dr. Andrew Wakefield.

00:26:49.000 I'm sorry.

00:26:50.000 Disgraced ex-Dr.

00:26:51.000 Andrew Wakefield.

00:26:51.000 Fine, but I will say that to have the hubris or the pride that you confidently know everything about the autism topic.

00:26:59.000 I know more about this than you, Charlie.

00:27:01.000 Okay, well, fine.

00:27:02.000 Just allow me to finish talking, right?

00:27:04.000 Is, I think, I think exactly why.

00:27:08.000 We have not been able to find a determinative reason why so many kids have, like, let's just say neurodiverse disorders, right?

00:27:17.000 And so, do you think there's anything about the plastics in our food?

00:27:23.000 Microplastics could be a factor.

00:27:25.000 Okay, well now that's environmental.

00:27:26.000 So hold on.

00:27:27.000 Are microplastics in vaccines?

00:27:29.000 Yes, they are.

00:27:30.000 So I'm not saying that that's the only way microplastics come in.

00:27:32.000 So now you're playing ball for a debunked myth that isn't true.

00:27:36.000 Well, actually I'm not.

00:27:36.000 Yes, you are.

00:27:37.000 You just stated a tacit endorsement of it.

00:27:39.000 No, I am.

00:27:39.000 No, I'm not.

00:27:40.000 You're not explicitly saying it, but you're giving enough for your audience to latch on to it.

00:27:44.000 I think you, as someone who cares about this topic, should be extremely open-minded to all the data and not ideological about this.

00:27:52.000 Whatever the studies end up showing, that should need to be controlled.

00:28:00.000 We don't need more.

00:28:01.000 We may find some that do change it.

00:28:03.000 And then if that does happen, I'll change my mind.

00:28:05.000 But as of now, almost every single study shows that vaccines do not cause autism.

00:28:10.000 I'm not even saying they do.

00:28:12.000 What I do find a problem with is people that don't even want to continue to explore that topic or that question.

00:28:17.000 And let me tell you why.

00:28:18.000 The very same people that don't even want us to try to test that are the same people that told us the COVID vaccine was safe and effective and told us to lock down our kids during COVID.

00:28:29.000 Would you have rather had millions of people die from COVID or would you have rather had people being locked down for two years?

00:28:35.000 I don't want to go down that rabbit hole.

00:28:36.000 We should never have locked down anybody.

00:28:38.000 The lockdowns did not save a single life.

00:28:39.000 Yes, it did.

00:28:40.000 The lockdowns, That's the problem.

00:28:47.000 That is a negative effect of the lockdowns.

00:28:49.000 But from the perspective of the government, they need a working people.

00:28:54.000 All lockdowns did.

00:28:56.000 If everybody is dying in the hospital because there's not enough beds, then there's not going to be enough people to work the factories that you want to bring back.

00:29:04.000 Right.

00:29:05.000 So again, all lockdowns did was delay the inevitable.

00:29:08.000 Yeah.

00:29:09.000 That was the point.

00:29:10.000 The point was to delay it so we have a longer spread of people getting it.

00:29:14.000 So there were hospital beds.

00:29:16.000 Again, just so we are clear.

00:29:17.000 So people live.

00:29:17.000 Again, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole.

00:29:19.000 But the real reason why we locked down was because our public health authorities of Mr. Fauci and Ms. Burks and all of the gang over there, they refused to ever entertain early interventions that could have helped people fight COVID, like vitamin D supplementation.

00:29:37.000 Potentially ivermectin.

00:29:39.000 Those have all been debunked, Charlie.

00:29:40.000 We know this.

00:29:41.000 So you think that vitamin D has been debunked when it comes to fighting?

00:29:45.000 Vitamin D explicitly doesn't make COVID better because we are slobs and do not go out.

00:29:50.000 We are unable to get vitamin D and having a good vitamin supplement makes it so you're able to fight back all diseases.

00:29:59.000 Along other lines, such as ivermectin, did not work.

00:30:02.000 Let's get to the next question.

00:30:03.000 So here we have a difference, though.

00:30:05.000 I get it.

00:30:06.000 You're scared.

00:30:07.000 We have clarity but not agreement.

00:30:09.000 I am limitlessly open-minded to what is causing the nationwide crisis of autism in our kids.

00:30:16.000 Do you think it's a crisis?

00:30:17.000 No.

00:30:18.000 There's nothing inherently wrong with being autistic.

00:30:20.000 Well, so, I don't know if it's wrong, but it can be very challenging for some people.

00:30:25.000 For some people, it can be a superpower.

00:30:27.000 But there are severely autistic kids as well that bang their heads up against the walls.

00:30:31.000 Thousands and thousands of families, tens of thousands of families, have to deal with that.

00:30:35.000 And I think that if we start to see something that pops up so often, and I would ask the question, if there is nothing wrong with autistic kids, why do they need medication?

00:30:46.000 They don't need medication.

00:30:47.000 Well, many of them actually do.

00:30:48.000 That's because of other things.

00:30:50.000 Autism isn't a medicated disease.

00:30:52.000 You do realize that talking about wanting to cure autism is eugenics, right?

00:30:56.000 You do realize that.

00:30:57.000 Hold on.

00:30:58.000 So no one wants to kill anybody, but if you have brain inflammation to the extent...

00:31:04.000 Eugenics isn't just killing people.

00:31:05.000 Wanting to remove a specific part of people is eugenics.

00:31:09.000 It's an outrageous statement.

00:31:10.000 I don't want to remove them.

00:31:11.000 I want a kid.

00:31:13.000 Who's in seventh grade right now in Casper, Wyoming, who can't focus enough to take a math test or does not understand social cues from his classmates to be able to have his brain inflammation go down by maybe 20% so that he can have an elevated social life.

00:31:28.000 I want that for the millions of kids that are diagnosed with autism in this country.

00:31:33.000 So, anyway, we don't have agreement.

00:31:35.000 Thank you for your time.

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00:32:42.000 So you've talked a little bit about American competitiveness tonight, and I'm getting a sense that you're also not a huge fan of college.

00:32:50.000 Is that correct?

00:32:52.000 Somewhat, yeah.

00:32:53.000 Okay, somewhat.

00:32:54.000 And you are also not a fan of immigration.

00:32:57.000 So given those two stances, you are proposing cutting off a substantial part of America's labor supply, both in skilled and unskilled sectors, and you don't have, you're not encouraging young people, or rather you are actively discouraging young people from gaining the necessary skills to replace the skilled immigrants that are coming in.

00:33:18.000 So given that you hold these two stances, How is America going to become more competitive when you, especially in fields that require highly skilled labor, such as medical research and material science and engineering?

00:33:34.000 Of course I want people to get skills, so that's not a correct representation.

00:33:38.000 Does college provide skills to the majority of people that go?

00:33:41.000 Did a woman's study degree give you any skills that was going to help us fight China?

00:33:45.000 Well, you're taking, and I know why you're doing this.

00:33:47.000 That's a majority of degrees, and people that go to college are in the social sciences, are in communications, and they're in irrelevant degrees.

00:33:54.000 A majority.

00:33:55.000 So a majority of the 21 million people that are in college right now, are there studying stuff that you and I would laugh at?

00:34:02.000 Oh, I wouldn't laugh at that at all.

00:34:03.000 I think that people go to college for a variety of reasons.

00:34:06.000 No, I know that.

00:34:07.000 But do you think that when we're looking at American competitiveness I don't think that a person's decision to pursue an education should be determined by what is necessarily for the greater good of the country.

00:34:30.000 Well, that's a separate issue.

00:34:31.000 I'm not even contending that.

00:34:32.000 Everyone has a right to do that.

00:34:34.000 You can make whatever path you want.

00:34:35.000 I'm making a broader macro point of competitiveness.

00:34:39.000 That when you have millions of your best people studying stuff that's complete trash and complete nonsense to just go become mid-level manager, paper pusher bureaucrats, not good.

00:34:49.000 So I do have to ask the question.

00:34:51.000 Well, you haven't answered my question yet because you're going on and you're talking about, okay, some degrees are not going to make America.

00:34:58.000 A majority.

00:34:59.000 I'll grant you that.

00:35:00.000 So you're saying a majority of degrees that are granted in the United States are not going to make America competitive in STEM fields.

00:35:07.000 Okay, fine.

00:35:08.000 I asked, given that you are anti-immigration and that you are disparaging going to college in general.

00:35:16.000 I'm anti-foreigners breaking into our country, so I have to clarify you on my position, but go ahead.

00:35:24.000 So the Trump administration's deportation of academics, that's bad, you would say?

00:35:30.000 Well, again, it depends on what they're being deported for and what they're teaching and the criteria around that.

00:35:43.000 Boston U?

00:35:43.000 Harvard?

00:35:44.000 Some Boston University that was deported for forgetting to declare frog embryos in her carry-on.

00:35:49.000 That was a dangerous person that needed to be deported.

00:35:53.000 Would you agree with that?

00:35:55.000 I don't know enough about the frog embryo thief.

00:35:57.000 Oh, okay.

00:35:58.000 Thief?

00:35:59.000 Oh, no, no, no, no.

00:35:59.000 These were samples related to her research.

00:36:02.000 Frog embryo smuggler.

00:36:03.000 Let's talk more broadly, though.

00:36:05.000 If we are thinking about going up against China, do we want more universities that are of the liberal arts direction, or more that are doing really, like, artificial intelligence preparedness, astrophysics, engineering, of which, of course, I totally support, but that's less than 12% of all students that go to college study those things.

00:36:24.000 So you're asking, The current college model, or one that has significantly changed and somewhat reconfigured?

00:36:35.000 I mean, but just so you know, China's premise is that we're competing with them.

00:36:38.000 I would say we're an enemy with the Chinese Communist Party, not just a trading partner, that they're an enemy of the United States.

00:36:44.000 But I don't want to go too far down that rabbit hole.

00:36:46.000 Back to immigration.

00:36:47.000 I'm against illegal immigration.

00:36:49.000 I want the best people to be here, merit-based, but I don't believe immigration is a charity.

00:36:53.000 You should not come here just because you want to, and we're not going to open our doors as just an act of benevolency.

00:36:58.000 We want the best people that are going to assimilate and make our country more competitive.

00:37:02.000 So you don't think we should open our doors to anyone with, say, a PhD or a hiring skill?

00:37:06.000 No, it depends.

00:37:07.000 Of course not.

00:37:07.000 So that is an arbitrary trimming.

00:37:11.000 Of a labor supply that we could use.

00:37:13.000 How is that good for American competition?

00:37:15.000 These are highly skilled, highly intelligent people.

00:37:17.000 Well, maybe, again, if they have a PhD in Islamic studies, what are they going to bring to America that's good?

00:37:23.000 Okay.

00:37:25.000 No, no, seriously.

00:37:26.000 If they have a PhD and they wrote their dissertation on how wonderful Muhammad was, sorry, I don't want you in my country, okay?

00:37:33.000 You can go to France.

00:37:35.000 Right.

00:37:36.000 Okay, so you're...

00:37:39.000 Okay, yeah.

00:37:40.000 My answer was, it depends.

00:37:42.000 Now, if you have a PhD, and you've written extensively on how the atom was split, and you're from Japan, then yeah, we'll entertain you coming to this country, and we want that, of course.

00:37:51.000 But, again, you have to have some nuance into who you're going to let into our country.

00:37:55.000 Not just your blanket statement, let anybody with a PhD come into America.

00:37:59.000 That's silly.

00:37:59.000 You don't think that humanities have any value at all.

00:38:01.000 So, history.

00:38:02.000 Well, I do, actually.

00:38:03.000 The way that it's taught and configured.

00:38:05.000 So, are you here at University of Wyoming?

00:38:07.000 Yes, I am.

00:38:08.000 Okay, are you in the humanities or what are you...

00:38:11.000 I'm studying to be a doctor of economics.

00:38:14.000 Oh, great.

00:38:14.000 Good.

00:38:15.000 So you guys have spent a lot of time studying Thomas Sowell?

00:38:18.000 Yes.

00:38:19.000 And Milton Friedman?

00:38:20.000 Yes.

00:38:20.000 And F.A. Hayek and Ludwig von Mises?

00:38:22.000 Yes.

00:38:22.000 All of that.

00:38:23.000 My work is actually quite closely related to Friedrich Hayek.

00:38:26.000 Great.

00:38:26.000 So do you think most college kids across the country are learning Hayek?

00:38:31.000 Actually, yes.

00:38:31.000 I was introduced to Hayek and Bastiat.

00:38:34.000 That's a joke, and you know it.

00:38:36.000 Oh, really?

00:38:37.000 You're the first economics student in the country I ever know that even knows who Hayek is.

00:38:42.000 Hmm.

00:38:42.000 Well, I think that's because a lot of people enter economics thinking that it's just another business degree, that it's just about how to run a firm.

00:38:51.000 I mean, it's a rigorous study to obviously go after.

00:38:54.000 The humanities, as they're configured, are wretched to the core with anti-Western teaching.

00:39:00.000 Anti-American literature.

00:39:01.000 What do you mean anti-Western teaching?

00:39:03.000 An emphasis on Herbert Marcuse and Angela Davis and Kimberly Crenshaw and Judith Butler and what?

00:39:10.000 Derek Bell.

00:39:11.000 What's wrong with Angela Davis?

00:39:13.000 She's a great woman.

00:39:14.000 Angela Davis, the outspoken vocal communist?

00:39:18.000 Yeah.

00:39:19.000 She's a great woman.

00:39:20.000 Yeah.

00:39:22.000 That's why kids shouldn't go to college to learn from communists.

00:39:30.000 That proves my point.

00:39:32.000 Angela Davis has nothing to offer to the Academy.

00:39:35.000 She is the disciple of Herbert Marcuse.

00:39:36.000 I don't think a diverse education and political theory is useful.

00:39:40.000 You can learn about those perspectives, but studying them as your primary perspective, That's a leap.

00:39:50.000 That doesn't leave me just a little bit.

00:39:52.000 Angela Davis' or the post-modern school of thought brought to you by Mercuza and the Frankfurt School and Jacques Derrida is the predominant philosophical worldview that is put forward in the humanities across the country.

00:40:05.000 That is a fact.

00:40:06.000 Charlie, we've strayed pretty far from my original point.

00:40:08.000 We've got people behind me.

00:40:09.000 Well, hold on.

00:40:10.000 I'm just gonna give you an opportunity to clearly answer the questions that I had, given that you are anti-immigration.

00:40:18.000 Okay, fine.

00:40:19.000 Anti-illegal immigration.

00:40:21.000 That's fine.

00:40:21.000 I'll grant you that.

00:40:22.000 I want more Elon Musk and less Elon Omars.

00:40:24.000 Does that make sense?

00:40:25.000 Well, that's bait, but okay.

00:40:28.000 So that's the type of legal immigration I want.

00:40:30.000 More Elons, less Elons.

00:40:33.000 Okay.

00:40:33.000 We're going to ignore that bait.

00:40:36.000 No, but that's my answer.

00:40:37.000 I mean, you have...

00:40:38.000 Merit over Muslim totalitarianism.

00:40:41.000 you are against somehow.

00:40:48.000 Fine.

00:40:49.000 And you are against training our young people to fill their shoes.

00:40:56.000 How does this make America more competitive?

00:40:59.000 And you've spent a lot of time talking about immigration and the fact that some college degrees are worthless, but you have not at all addressed how your viewpoints make America more competitive.

00:41:09.000 Apprenticeships, trade schools, community colleges.

00:41:11.000 There's other options than four-year colleges to be able to get skills, of which I highly support.

00:41:17.000 Did you know there are 11 million job openings in this country right now that do not require a college degree, that just requires some form of technical training?

00:41:26.000 So yes, we need less people going to college and more people that are going to enter the muscular class of this country.

00:41:33.000 Community colleges are going to teach you how to cure cancer, but that's my time.

00:41:38.000 Okay, but a community college actually might teach you how to change a tire, which millions of Americans don't know how to do.

00:41:45.000 Okay, thank you for your time.

00:41:52.000 As if studying the humanities, you're learning how to cure cancer.

00:41:55.000 It's really something.

00:41:57.000 Yeah.

00:41:57.000 Evening.

00:42:00.000 I guess my biggest question is, I don't entirely understand what the point of this is.

00:42:05.000 Not what you're doing right now, but...

00:42:12.000 It's literally called the American comeback, but you're talking about, you know, past American values, past this, or differences that existed before the 21st century.

00:42:22.000 But automation, progression, things like that, those don't get a go back.

00:42:26.000 Like you can't reinvent some of the things we've done.

00:42:30.000 When it comes to rhetoric around like trans people, Like, take genetic engineering for an example.

00:42:43.000 It's changing a lot of things about humanity and pretty much everything else in the world.

00:42:47.000 Do you really think that innovation is going to stop 25, 50, 100 years in the future?

00:42:52.000 Like, the ability to change something about a person pretty much arbitrarily if it felt like it, or bringing back American jobs.

00:42:59.000 Except a lot of jobs are being supplanted by automation, artificial intelligence.

00:43:04.000 Like, if we keep doing that, there might not even be a point of working in the future.

00:43:09.000 So I guess my real question is, what do you expect in 100 years from now?

00:43:14.000 Out of humanity, or hell, even the U.S., if it still exists?

00:43:17.000 I don't know.

00:43:18.000 Okay, I mean, that's a good question.

00:43:19.000 So what do we want?

00:43:20.000 I mean, for example, we want to reverse the fertility crisis in the West.

00:43:24.000 we are increasingly having less children, and we have a population collapse that is plaguing our entire society.

00:43:30.000 People need to get married more and have children younger and have a lot more children in this country.

00:43:34.000 We want to see that reverse.

00:43:35.000 And that actually plays into your question.

00:43:38.000 With automation, AI, and the hyper-digitization of I want to see more people go back to church.

00:43:47.000 I want to see church attendance go back.

00:43:53.000 I want us to become a less violent country and have violence go down.

00:43:58.000 I want a country where you don't have to lock your doors at night because you know your neighbor by the name and you don't have to worry that someone's going to come in and steal your stuff.

00:44:05.000 I think Wyoming's a great model for part of the America that we lost, where there is that kind of rugged independence, but there's also that neighborly dependence, where you're so far from the town center that if something happens to your kid, you drive to a neighbor first.

00:44:19.000 To see if they can help or they can pitch in.

00:44:21.000 We've lost that.

00:44:22.000 We're increasingly a nation of strangers.

00:44:24.000 We're foreign to one another.

00:44:26.000 And so those are just some things.

00:44:27.000 I mean, as far as 100 years from now, I would love to see what the current trends that we are seeing.

00:44:33.000 I'd love to see the suicide epidemic in this country reverse, the drug epidemic in this country reverse.

00:44:38.000 I'd love to see us become less obese and improve our diets.

00:44:44.000 And so it's just some of the things that we're aiming for, to come back to the country we used to have.

00:44:50.000 That's the thing I struggle with, though.

00:44:52.000 You talk about a comeback, but the United States has its fair share of issues in the past.

00:44:57.000 I mean, the whole point is that we've tried to move on from those.

00:45:00.000 Do we have anything great in the past?

00:45:02.000 We do.

00:45:03.000 There's also plenty of bad things, but I guess I don't like this rhetoric of walking it back.

00:45:08.000 Why?

00:45:09.000 Why does that bother you?

00:45:10.000 Why does it bother you to say, hey, we want to go back to how it was in the 1980s where divorce rates were lower and that kids weren't staring at screens all the time?

00:45:17.000 Like, why is that bad?

00:45:18.000 1980s, there was a ton of drug abuse.

00:45:20.000 Of course, every era has a problem, but objectively, the 80s were a better country to be raised as a kid than today.

00:45:27.000 Objectively.

00:45:29.000 The 90s, you could say the same.

00:45:31.000 The number one killer of our nation's young people is self-inflicted suicide.

00:45:35.000 When suicide is the leading cause of death of your nation's young people, there's something so alarmingly wrong that we should press pause and ask the question, why?

00:45:43.000 I guess, like I said, though, we can't walk back a lot of what we've done.

00:45:46.000 The Internet isn't going away.

00:45:48.000 Same thing for artificial intelligence.

00:45:50.000 I'm not even recommending that but like a lot of those points in time you're referenced to it's always about like social media is causing you know the decay of the country or decay of humanity or just all of these things but this stuff isn't going away and it's not likely to change so I again it's just I really respect Respectfully, I reject your whole attitude.

00:46:09.000 We can change things.

00:46:11.000 You don't have to be on your phone all the time.

00:46:12.000 You don't have to have it as if it's like some augmentation of your being.

00:46:16.000 We can turn off our phones and be human again.

00:46:18.000 You don't have to all of a sudden bend a knee to the technological leviathan or the beast and act as if you're just a vassal of the major social media companies.

00:46:27.000 The technology might keep proceeding, but there are also going to be a remnant of those of us that want to remain human.

00:46:34.000 So, thank you.

00:46:40.000 So, here's my question.

00:46:42.000 I fundamentally disagree with you in regards to having a family and getting married in this day and age.

00:46:49.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:46:51.000 70% of the divorce rates happen because of women.

00:46:54.000 Okay?

00:46:54.000 That's a fact.

00:46:55.000 Before we get angry, let's talk about the facts.

00:46:58.000 You can Google this too.

00:47:00.000 And on top of that, 85% of the men, or I should say people in jail, Corrobe and fatherless homes.

00:47:13.000 So there's a direct correlation between those two things.

00:47:16.000 So my thinking is that we don't need to necessarily have more families unless we have a complete change to the system.

00:47:25.000 Now, what do you think about that?

00:47:26.000 We need a change to the system in order for us to have a nice conversation about, you know, having a family.

00:47:32.000 Because the state incentivizes single motherhood in this country.

00:47:36.000 And you're looking at me with that face, but tell me why.

00:47:40.000 I'm trying to understand what you're saying.

00:47:42.000 What is your contention, that we shouldn't get married and have kids?

00:47:46.000 We shouldn't currently because of this particular issue right now.

00:47:49.000 What issue?

00:47:52.000 Okay, okay, let me explain.

00:47:53.000 Outside of the fact that, you know, the anti-woman thing that you said.

00:47:56.000 Well, it's not necessarily anti-woman, it's a fact.

00:47:58.000 You can Google this, too.

00:48:00.000 And look at the divorce rates in this country.

00:48:02.000 I'm just saying that if we're going to have more families, we need some protections in place for men.

00:48:07.000 Because right now the legal system actively destroys the man in court.

00:48:12.000 Alright?

00:48:13.000 Is that false or is that true?

00:48:14.000 I mean, yeah, of course it's true that the state encourages divorce, but how about you find a woman that you want to spend the rest of your life?

00:48:22.000 I was married for 10 years.

00:48:23.000 I was married for 10 years.

00:48:25.000 And then you should take responsibility for your own actions.

00:48:27.000 Why is that my problem?

00:48:28.000 Another thing is that you're asking me if I should find a woman.

00:48:32.000 No, but hold on.

00:48:32.000 You're going up in front of people, time out, to say marriage is bad because I had a bad experience.

00:48:36.000 No, no, no.

00:48:36.000 But it's true statistically.

00:48:38.000 We can look at the data.

00:48:39.000 Is it wrong to say that, hey, 70% of divorces are initiated by women when the data says that?

00:48:44.000 Can I ask you a provocative question?

00:48:45.000 Facts don't care about feelings, right?

00:48:46.000 Can I ask you a provocative question?

00:48:48.000 Yes, of course.

00:48:48.000 Did you do anything that led to your divorce?

00:48:51.000 Absolutely.

00:48:52.000 Okay, so it wasn't all the woman's fault.

00:48:53.000 No, no, no, but I'm saying...

00:48:56.000 70% of the divorces are initiated by them.

00:48:59.000 And yes, this is an anecdotal situation.

00:49:01.000 See, I reject the premise.

00:49:03.000 I reject the premise.

00:49:04.000 I think that we as men must lead.

00:49:06.000 Women might initiate it, but we as men don't take the directive to have peace in the home.

00:49:10.000 I reject the premise.

00:49:11.000 Hold on.

00:49:12.000 Hold on.

00:49:13.000 Time out.

00:49:13.000 Let me finish.

00:49:14.000 I reject the premise.

00:49:16.000 Yes, women might initiate the divorce proceeding, but we are the one as men that ignore We're the ones that should take the family back to church, that go seek counseling if necessary.

00:49:28.000 And I don't disagree with it.

00:49:29.000 It's not good enough just to say, like, hey, you know, oh, it's women that initiate it.

00:49:34.000 It's men who don't act, I think, confidently and strong enough in most cases to actually make sure that marriage is a safe haven to have children in a wholly protected place.

00:49:43.000 And I think that makes sense.

00:49:44.000 And let me say this.

00:49:45.000 Okay, let's find some common ground.

00:49:47.000 So we know that the system is flawed, right?

00:49:49.000 So here's the thing that's flawed about it.

00:49:51.000 When the federal government incentivizes the state, at the state level, for child support enforcement programs, and we have a system where the state makes a bunch of money off of this, it's pretty parasitic, because there's no such thing as a 50-50 custody in Wyoming, even if you get along with the parents.

00:50:10.000 So when the state is actively involved with family matters, and women are getting paid off from this, and this is not false, We have a toxic system that probably needs to be revised.

00:50:22.000 Do you not disagree with that?

00:50:24.000 Well, I think we should revise.

00:50:26.000 I do believe in more men's rights in custody.

00:50:29.000 I think that's fine.

00:50:30.000 But let's take a step back, though, and I think it's very important, is that men are objectively better when they are married and they don't stay as grown infant boys watching porn and playing video games all day long.

00:50:43.000 And I don't disagree with that.

00:50:44.000 Good.

00:50:45.000 So we agree.

00:50:45.000 I agree.

00:50:46.000 So here's my argument.

00:50:49.000 Despite the problems of the legal system, of which your argument has some merit, we still should get married because it is the right thing to do.

00:50:58.000 Despite the technical problems, despite the difficulties, in fact, it's us men to find a woman that we love and to protect that marriage and hope that it never goes in the direction of divorce.

00:51:10.000 That's 30% though.

00:51:12.000 That's 30% chance that it succeeds.

00:51:14.000 Again, so, well, no, no.

00:51:16.000 About half marriages continue.

00:51:18.000 It's not 30%.

00:51:19.000 No, because if 70%...

00:51:21.000 Because look at this.

00:51:22.000 Why do we have such a society that is so hyper-focused on we need to have a bunch of children and get married, but we have this system in place, and I'm talking about the federal government that incentivizes single parenthood.

00:51:34.000 And we can look at most of these inmates in jail come from fatherless homes.

00:51:38.000 Maybe we should get rid of the state involved in personal family matters.

00:51:42.000 So you're conflating.

00:51:43.000 You know why?

00:51:44.000 The fatherless homes you're talking about are people that never got married in the first place most of the time.

00:51:48.000 Yes, that's true.

00:51:49.000 They're men that impregnate women and flee the women that they were with.

00:51:53.000 But understand this, that every generation has had troubles.

00:51:56.000 Our duty as men is to overcome obstacles, not whine about them, and not complain about them.

00:52:03.000 So yes, there is a problem here.

00:52:05.000 But I would reject the premise.

00:52:07.000 Every man here should not, every young man should say, I'm not going to be a boy and I'm going to go do the hard thing and get married and have children.

00:52:14.000 And I would just push back against some of your narrative where you're telling like, well, men, it might not be good, it might not be this.

00:52:19.000 Yes, life has lots of things that could throw at you, but marriage is a holy, holy institution that we should aim for.

00:52:26.000 And the fact that marriage is slipping in the West is one of the great...

00:52:33.000 Should we revise it?

00:52:34.000 Yes, I think we should revise some of the laws.

00:52:36.000 I agree.

00:52:37.000 But the answer is not to not get married or run away from that institution.

00:52:40.000 It's tough.

00:52:41.000 Okay, still, go get married and have kids.

00:52:43.000 Thank you very much.

00:52:44.000 I appreciate it.

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00:54:03.000 Hello, my name is Madison.

00:54:06.000 I'm a student at the University of Wyoming currently.

00:54:09.000 Next semester, I'll be taking a step away from college specifically, and I'll be getting my license in vet technician work.

00:54:16.000 But go UW.

00:54:19.000 I do have a question for you.

00:54:21.000 I grew up in a conservative household, thank God.

00:54:25.000 I'm very glad to be a conservative in this day.

00:54:30.000 And I have recently kind of had some conflicting feelings, and I think that they kind of I am kind of rising to the mindset of being an advocate for Hispanics.

00:54:54.000 Specifically, if I can give you an example, so recently, I think within the last year, she lives in a different state, but if I can share this in confidence, I guess, I mean, without great detail, she is an illegal alien, and this was kind of a shock to me, being a conservative, and her asking me what my viewpoints are compared to hers, and she's become one of my best friends, and I love her dearly, and I've seen her grow within the last year working in this country, providing a lot to this country.

00:55:27.000 She's currently a student in a university, and a lot with the recent election, which I'm proud of who I voted for, but she's not necessarily the same viewpoint.

00:55:39.000 And I guess my biggest conflict here is, what would you like to see going forward for the Hispanic community, especially young women and men who are in their 20s, who are illegal?

00:55:52.000 being able to have the same equal opportunity in this country as I do,'cause that's my conflict.

00:55:57.000 Yeah, so thank you.

00:55:59.000 Great question.

00:56:00.000 I'm going to gently correct some stuff.

00:56:03.000 Yeah, it's okay.

00:56:04.000 Not all Hispanics are illegal.

00:56:06.000 In fact, there's a lot of Hispanics that are here legally.

00:56:08.000 So I know you said Hispanics twice.

00:56:10.000 I don't want to loop the idea that every Hispanic is here.

00:56:13.000 Broke into the country illegally.

00:56:15.000 Secondly, no, I know, and that not all illegals are Hispanic.

00:56:19.000 There's a lot of other countries that, people that break those laws.

00:56:22.000 I don't know enough about the situation here, but here's just the general rule.

00:56:26.000 That if you break our law, there must be a penalty.

00:56:30.000 Period.

00:56:31.000 And so if you are here and you came into the country illegally, I don't know the circumstances.

00:56:36.000 If they were carried as a kid, it's a little bit more complicated.

00:56:38.000 She was, when she was two.

00:56:40.000 Well, so then her parents are the ones that should go back to wherever she came from with her.

00:56:45.000 Because her parents made that mistake with her.

00:56:47.000 I'm an incredibly non-negotiating hawk when it comes to immigration.

00:56:51.000 Because if you come here without permission, if you come here without warrant, then we don't have an immigration system.

00:56:58.000 We basically just have a bum rush on the southern border.

00:57:00.000 It can be very hard for you because you know this person and you like this person.

00:57:03.000 At the same time, we're the only country in the world that says, you know what, I understand that you're not supposed to be here and that you haven't been here for the right reason and we're just going to allow you to stay here.

00:57:12.000 That's how we've gotten to the place where we have 20 million people illegally in our country.

00:57:18.000 Just to be clear, her parents are the ones that basically cut in line.

00:57:26.000 And then used her kind of as, you know, as a way to get into the country.

00:57:31.000 And I don't love the idea of, like, emotional manipulation.

00:57:35.000 I'm basically a blind justice guy.

00:57:37.000 If you're not here legally, we will humanely return you to your country of origin.

00:57:41.000 And so you might not agree or like that, but we have to be a nation of laws.

00:57:45.000 We're not going to be just the nation of feelings.

00:57:48.000 Right.

00:57:49.000 No, yeah, and I really appreciate that.

00:57:50.000 Thank you so much.

00:57:51.000 Thank you for your question.

00:57:52.000 Really appreciate it.

00:57:53.000 Thank you.

00:58:02.000 Hello.

00:58:03.000 My name is Kit.

00:58:05.000 So, I am a generally conservative libertarian.

00:58:09.000 However, one thing I've noticed about the conservative movement over the past couple years is almost an over-fixation on the left's obsession with identity politics.

00:58:19.000 And I think what it seems like it's turning into is that we're becoming so obsessed with getting rid of identity politics that it is effectively becoming our identity politics, where It seems like it can be a tool that's used to hide bad policy and ignore good policy that needs to be implemented.

00:58:37.000 And I just wonder, like, do you think that this overfixation on getting rid of identity politics could eventually hurt the conservative movement?

00:58:45.000 Can I ask you to give an example?

00:58:47.000 Is that okay?

00:58:48.000 Well, as an example, for your entire introduction here, the majority of it was talking about, you know, getting rid of DEI.

00:58:57.000 And don't get me wrong, DEI isn't a good thing.

00:58:59.000 I'm glad to have it gone.

00:59:01.000 Well, no.

00:59:01.000 So identity politics, just so we're clear, is your political affiliation is your skin color.

00:59:06.000 Getting rid of things that believe that your political affiliation is your skin color is not identity politics.

00:59:11.000 And it's not our identity.

00:59:12.000 We're simply just fixing an error.

00:59:14.000 Does that make sense?

00:59:16.000 Yes, but the overfixation on those things, because we do definitely have genuine issues that I hear almost nothing about from either side, actually.

00:59:24.000 Or there are things that I hear from the left, but they don't actually do anything about because the goal is to...

00:59:30.000 We would just say, though, that those four examples I gave, CRT, DEI, Affirmative Action, Disparate Impact, these are incredibly important, and what I'm doing is celebrating a glorious achievement, and I only have so much time to talk here, and we should get rid of bad things, and we should celebrate it when we get rid of bad things.

00:59:46.000 Right, but the focus with getting rid of bad things, I mean, don't you think that the focus of getting rid of bad things is to then talk about what new things we can move on to?

00:59:54.000 Sure, yeah.

00:59:55.000 I mean, I think President Trump is doing that as well, but, I mean, have you seen, An emphasis on the disparate impact stuff?

01:00:00.000 Probably not.

01:00:01.000 I mean, this is a monumental step forward for the country because we're getting rid of this monstrosity.

01:00:07.000 And getting rid of DEI means we're bringing back merit.

01:00:11.000 That means more innovation.

01:00:12.000 That means more entrepreneurs.

01:00:13.000 That means more risk-taking, more invention.

01:00:17.000 And so I think they actually play in together.

01:00:19.000 Thank you.

01:00:19.000 I've got to get to the next question.

01:00:20.000 Thank you very much.

01:00:21.000 Thank you.

01:00:26.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:00:27.000 I go to a decently sized trade school here in town called WyoTech.

01:00:31.000 Good for you.

01:00:32.000 God bless you.

01:00:37.000 I know there's quite a few of us here, so I just had a quick question.

01:00:41.000 What's your advice for the blue-collar community?

01:00:43.000 Man, first of all, God bless you.

01:00:46.000 First, my message to those that work with your hands.

01:00:49.000 Not only do you matter, but we would not have a country without those of you that work in the invisible jobs behind the scenes.

01:00:58.000 Three things.

01:00:59.000 Four things.

01:01:00.000 Build skills, build businesses, build wealth, build character, build a family.

01:01:04.000 Five things.

01:01:05.000 Do those five things.

01:01:06.000 And you in a blue-collar job, you have a very unique blessing.

01:01:11.000 And I find this.

01:01:12.000 You know what your blessing is?

01:01:13.000 You can, what I call, layer.

01:01:16.000 Layering is where you do one thing and you can add another productive thing on top of it.

01:01:21.000 So, can I ask you, what is your proficiency?

01:01:25.000 I'm in collision and refinishing.

01:01:27.000 Great.

01:01:27.000 So, I imagine, thank you by the way, collision and refinishing.

01:01:30.000 You're going to have a job for a long time, just so we're clear.

01:01:33.000 Especially with Wyoming winters, right?

01:01:36.000 So while you're doing that work, I imagine you could listen to a podcast, right?

01:01:42.000 So my advice to Blue Collar America is, A lot of people that are sitting in meetings all day long that work in the laptop class, not the muscular class, they don't have the ability to do that.

01:01:58.000 So what I'm getting at is in the time that you're working with your hands, you're able to also train and learn and dive deep into ideas.

01:02:05.000 That's why I believe the average plumber in this country has more wisdom than the average college professor in this country.

01:02:11.000 Because they are...

01:02:18.000 And then finally, never let anybody talk down to you or what you're doing just because you did not go to college.

01:02:24.000 Prove them wrong.

01:02:26.000 Start a business.

01:02:27.000 Build a lot of wealth.

01:02:28.000 Not only is it critically important, but we have a colossal shortage in this country of people that know how to do things, and when you can do things, you are valuable, and therefore you are powerful.

01:02:39.000 So God bless you, man.

01:02:40.000 Thank you so much.

01:02:40.000 Thank you.

01:02:41.000 Thank you to all you've done for this generation.

01:02:43.000 Thank you.

01:02:48.000 Just a reminder, disagreements will work you through the line.

01:02:50.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:02:51.000 My name is Lenny, and it's very nice to meet you.

01:02:55.000 I'm a conservative through and through, and something I struggle with a lot is some of my family members are Democrats, and I like to debate with them a lot, but they always get me with the tariff conversation, so I was wondering if you could kind of elaborate on the benefits of the tariffs.

01:03:07.000 Yeah, I mean, look, it's way too soon for anyone to win that debate.

01:03:11.000 Let's just start with China.

01:03:12.000 We do not make our own vitamin C in this country anymore.

01:03:15.000 We don't make the...

01:03:22.000 What President Trump is doing is, number one, the people voted for tariffs to bring jobs back to this country.

01:03:27.000 Number two, he's using this as a negotiating tactic to be able to bring countries to the table so that they will buy more of our goods and services.

01:03:36.000 How does this impact Wyoming?

01:03:38.000 You guys have a lot of LNG in this state, right?

01:03:40.000 Got a lot of liquefied natural gas.

01:03:43.000 You should be able to sell Wyoming LNG, To Japan and to Europe without any tariff, and they should buy Wyoming LNG, not Iranian oil or gas.

01:03:54.000 That's what the tariffs are actually going to allow us to do.

01:03:57.000 They're a negotiation tool to be able to bring people to the table.

01:04:01.000 I think we're going to get phenomenal deals out of this.

01:04:03.000 Look, America has two oceans to our sides and a continent of resources.

01:04:07.000 Very, very rare.

01:04:09.000 And we have two friendly neighbors.

01:04:11.000 Yeah, we have two friendly neighbors.

01:04:14.000 We've allowed ourselves to become dependent on countries that aren't like us.

01:04:17.000 The tariffs are a message and a signal that we want to be a self-sufficient country and that we will not be a vassal state to the Chinese Communist Party.

01:04:26.000 Thank you so much.

01:04:27.000 Appreciate it.

01:04:28.000 Thank you so much.

01:04:28.000 God bless.

01:04:28.000 Thank you.

01:04:35.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:04:36.000 My name is Keith Studerman, and I was running What is a Woman?

01:04:41.000 Well, an adult human female with XX chromosomes.

01:04:44.000 That's what a woman is.

01:04:46.000 Thank you.

01:04:47.000 Thank you.

01:04:54.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:04:55.000 My name's Allie Edwards, and I'm a student here at the University of Wyoming, and I'm studying rangeland ecology and watershed management.

01:05:03.000 I guess my question is, I'm concerned about the reduction of staff in public land agencies like BLM and Forest Service.

01:05:10.000 Given how crucial public lands are to Wyoming's economy, why are these cuts happening?

01:05:14.000 And how do you recommend that we manage these lands effectively with fewer resources?

01:05:18.000 Given that in Wyoming especially, we are going to feel this on the fire lines this summer.

01:05:23.000 Yeah, again, I don't know enough about it.

01:05:24.000 Do you think there's any waste in these departments?

01:05:26.000 That would be my first question.

01:05:28.000 Definitely.

01:05:28.000 So I always like to joke I had a boss who never showed up to work.

01:05:33.000 So maybe that's who Elon fired.

01:05:34.000 Yep.

01:05:34.000 He didn't.

01:05:35.000 He fired me.

01:05:36.000 Oh, okay.

01:05:37.000 Well.

01:05:38.000 Yeah.

01:05:38.000 I'm sorry that you got fired.

01:05:40.000 Well, no, I mean, I'm a seasonal employee, but, you know, the hiring freeze, they could not hire interns this summer.

01:05:46.000 But, you know, I had some friends that worked the Forest Service as well who lost their jobs, and they were participating in their jobs every day.

01:05:54.000 Yeah, so, again, you isolated one thing of waste.

01:05:57.000 I wish they would have cut that and not you.

01:05:59.000 You seem very sweet.

01:06:00.000 I don't know nearly enough about that, but, yeah, look, the intent.

01:06:04.000 Let me go to the broad intent, and I think a lot of that will get worked through.

01:06:08.000 Senator Barrasso and Senator Lemus, I'm sure, are working through all that, is this.

01:06:11.000 We are a nation careening towards bankruptcy.

01:06:14.000 We are going to be borrowing trillions of dollars that we do not have.

01:06:16.000 We're $35 trillion in debt.

01:06:18.000 You have to make tough cuts when that happens.

01:06:20.000 And I also think when you make a mistake and you cut things that you shouldn't, you should fix that mistake.

01:06:24.000 Which I think is happening in certain areas.

01:06:26.000 But I would prefer an administration that moves fast to cut spending than never moves at all to cut spending because we have a massive problem with our debt and deficit in this country.

01:06:35.000 So I hope you'll be back on the fire lines this summer.

01:06:37.000 Thank you.

01:06:38.000 God bless you.

01:06:38.000 Thank you.

01:06:38.000 Great question.

01:06:45.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:06:46.000 My name is also Charlie, so good name.

01:06:50.000 I'm a member, I'm actually an editor at the student newspaper here, the Branding Iron.

01:06:54.000 And I was just wondering sort of a politically neutral question, I guess.

01:06:59.000 Well, two-parter.

01:07:01.000 First of all, I think I already know the answer to this, but do you think that there's a bias in American media today?

01:07:07.000 And secondly, as a member...

01:07:12.000 But secondly, as a member of the press, you know, I want to be a journalist.

01:07:16.000 What can I be doing to combat that in your view?

01:07:20.000 So the first part of bias is story selection bias, which is the stories they don't cover.

01:07:27.000 So my first piece of advice is it's not even the story composition itself, which is, of course, bad, but it's are you covering the stories that might make one side look bad or actually might elevate another side?

01:07:39.000 So story selection bias is big.

01:07:41.000 Finally, it's also the facts that they emphasize or they will not emphasize.

01:07:45.000 So my other piece of advice to you is, That doesn't have journalist intent, right?

01:07:58.000 That's just complete BS, garbage, rubbish, there's nothing behind it.

01:08:01.000 So try to refrain from very incendiary descriptions or adjectives and try to, and I'm sure they teach this as you're a journalist, be incredibly factual in the way that you can write it.

01:08:14.000 In fact, your job should be, this is your goal.

01:08:17.000 The reader should never know your politics.

01:08:20.000 If the reader does not know how you vote, you're an honest journalist.

01:08:24.000 If the reader is left in mystery about your reporting, you're a good journalist.

01:08:29.000 Fair enough.

01:08:30.000 That's always been my goal.

01:08:32.000 God bless you, man.

01:08:33.000 Thank you so much.

01:08:33.000 Thank you.

01:08:40.000 We'll take a couple more.

01:08:41.000 Yes.

01:08:42.000 My name is Sarah, and I'm an adjunct professor at this university.

01:08:47.000 And one of the things that you say is that university is a waste, and I would like to know, what can professors do to make university not a waste?

01:08:58.000 Great question.

01:08:59.000 What do you teach by, or help teach?

01:09:01.000 I teach agriculture law.

01:09:02.000 Great.

01:09:03.000 The more applicability in the classroom, the better.

01:09:06.000 So let me say this.

01:09:08.000 In your particular domain...

01:09:17.000 professors should also focus on building a network of employers that can come in and teach and meet the kids in class because they actually want people to hire and then the kids would be thrilled that they get to go meet people that could potentially hire them.

01:09:32.000 And so as a professor, just a piece of advice, you know, in agricultural law, I'm just guessing, right?

01:09:42.000 I bet there's like a big three and there's probably 10 that you know of.

01:09:45.000 They should come in and present, you know, once a semester.

01:09:47.000 I'm sure probably this already happens.

01:09:49.000 But then the students are able to communicate with them.

01:09:51.000 They get to know them, you know, and develop relationships with them.

01:09:55.000 Thank you.

01:09:56.000 Thank you so much.

01:09:57.000 God bless you.

01:09:57.000 Thank you.

01:10:01.000 We've got one or two more.

01:10:04.000 My name is Dominic Reed.

01:10:05.000 I'm a WyoTech student.

01:10:07.000 I'm currently in the diesel program.

01:10:10.000 Awesome.

01:10:12.000 I have a question about the mass diagnosis of ADHD, ADD, and them essentially just mass prescribing Ritalin and other amphetamines to children.

01:10:27.000 I was prescribed a Ritalin.

01:10:30.000 I got a Ritalin prescription at third grade.

01:10:35.000 And it turns out that all I needed to do was work with cars and with my hands.

01:10:41.000 And I'd actually focus.

01:10:43.000 What is your opinion on...

01:10:45.000 America, this is awesome.

01:10:53.000 That's not a good thing.

01:10:54.000 We think we need a pill for every ill.

01:10:56.000 And what's happened with ADHD, and the New York Times did a massive story on this.

01:11:01.000 Is that it's actually for the parents' benefit, not for the kids' benefit, to medicate third and fourth grade boys because they're too rambunctious.

01:11:08.000 Hey, you want your men to be full of energy when they're in fifth, sixth, and seventh grade.

01:11:13.000 You do not want them medicated just staring into the sky.

01:11:16.000 And look at you.

01:11:17.000 All you needed was to find something that you cared about, that you were passionate about.

01:11:22.000 You didn't need to have a bunch of pharmacological agents pumping through your body.

01:11:25.000 It's a problem of values.

01:11:27.000 People want a pill to solve their troubles.

01:11:30.000 And we mass overprescribe ADHD.

01:11:33.000 Imagine all the geniuses, all the brilliance that we are currently medicating in this country because they're too unruly.

01:11:40.000 You think about it, if you want to neuter the men of a country, you give them a bunch of drugs.

01:11:47.000 Makes them more agreeable.

01:11:48.000 Makes them easier to control.

01:11:50.000 So, my final point on this is I'm glad you found something that you could pour yourself into.

01:11:56.000 Mass medication and overprescription is a major structural problem in this country.

01:12:00.000 Another part, do you think that has an effect on the amount of drug addiction in this country, mass prescribing?

01:12:07.000 Potentially, yeah.

01:12:08.000 I mean, I think that philosophy has led to the mass prescription of drugs in this country.

01:12:14.000 There are two types of problems.

01:12:16.000 There are acute problems, and there are chronic problems.

01:12:19.000 For acute problems, drugs are great.

01:12:21.000 If you've broke your leg or that you have a back problem, those are temporary.

01:12:26.000 Chronic is much different.

01:12:28.000 That could be ADHD, it could be lupus, it could be all sorts of issues.

01:12:31.000 When it comes down to those specific issues, I think we need to look at more natural solutions, becoming more in touch with our bodies.

01:12:38.000 Going on a walk, not being on the phone, getting in the sun, working with our hands, being around family, going to church, eating well, you know, and not being catastrophically overweight, I think is a lot better than taking six pills every single day.

01:12:49.000 God bless you, man.

01:12:50.000 Thank you so much.

01:12:50.000 Thank you.

01:12:52.000 Okay, this will be the final question.

01:12:56.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:12:57.000 My name's Isaac.

01:12:58.000 I'm 20 years old.

01:12:59.000 That means laughter.

01:13:01.000 It does, and I do like to laugh a lot.

01:13:02.000 Good.

01:13:03.000 So a couple years ago, on the way home from high school, when I was in high school, I was listening to your show, and I heard you advocate for the trades and not going to college.

01:13:12.000 So I wanted to thank you for that input, because I gladly skipped college, and I've been an electrician for two years now, and I love it.

01:13:19.000 So thank you.

01:13:23.000 My question is a faith-related one, actually.

01:13:27.000 So I'm sure you know that most tradesmen are either alcoholics or divorced or felons or sometimes all three, but it's okay.

01:13:33.000 We love them.

01:13:34.000 What would your advice be to young tradesmen who love Jesus more than anything and want to exemplify Him in every word and action but have a really hard time consistently operating that way in an environment where mentioning Jesus is like committing a war crime?

01:13:49.000 Man, first of all, God bless you and thank you.

01:13:52.000 I love the hardworking men of Wyoming.

01:13:55.000 It just gives me so much hope.

01:13:57.000 It's just amazing.

01:14:01.000 Number one, you have to make your faith center in everything that you do, in all that you do.

01:14:06.000 In the same advice I gave previously to the podcast you listen to, while you're doing your work, make it sermons, make it teachings, make it speeches that glorify God in all that you do.

01:14:15.000 If you know that most tradesmen have problems drinking, maybe you're just going to say, I'm going to not drink in my life.

01:14:22.000 I don't drink, and it's a great way to live, everybody.

01:14:25.000 Tucker Carlson doesn't drink.

01:14:26.000 Donald Trump doesn't drink.

01:14:27.000 You've got a lot of energy when you don't drink.

01:14:31.000 I'm seven months sober, by the way.

01:14:33.000 Praise God, man.

01:14:33.000 That's amazing.

01:14:34.000 Good for you.

01:14:34.000 And let me ask you, do you see a positive benefit from that?

01:14:41.000 In every aspect of every second of every day.

01:14:44.000 Praise the Lord.

01:14:46.000 And my advice for people in this audience is that if you're struggling with alcohol, tomorrow can be a new day where it can be your day one.

01:14:52.000 Jesus Christ is with you through every single one of those steps and those struggles.

01:14:57.000 And even if you say, well, I don't have an alcohol problem, that's fine.

01:15:01.000 That's not actually the contention.

01:15:02.000 The contention is, is it good for you in what you want to do?

01:15:06.000 So here's what I say to young men, and Jordan Peterson's been saying this for a while, which is, what are you aiming at?

01:15:11.000 What is your goal?

01:15:12.000 What is your destination?

01:15:13.000 And so by not drinking, what you've done is you've just taken one of those variables completely off the table.

01:15:18.000 And let me tell you, if you're an alcoholic, you're more likely to get divorced.

01:15:22.000 So you now have decreased the likelihood of getting divorced.

01:15:24.000 I don't know if you're married or if you're looking for...

01:15:28.000 I'm, Amazing.

01:15:31.000 There's a lot of women here that I think would love to meet you.

01:15:35.000 And read the word every single day and come up with clear rules for your life of things that you will not do, things you will not watch, ways that you will not engage.

01:15:48.000 And finally, never be satisfied with the skill set you have.

01:15:53.000 Learn a different language.

01:15:55.000 Learn more about a specific Start another business.

01:15:59.000 And finally, you're in a unique place.

01:16:01.000 Because when people call an electrician, they're looking for help.

01:16:04.000 You have a chance to minister.

01:16:06.000 So when you walk in to be an electrician, you don't have to be like Billy Graham.

01:16:09.000 And so proclaim it!

01:16:10.000 You don't have to be that.

01:16:11.000 But you could say, hey, how are you doing?

01:16:13.000 You having a good week?

01:16:14.000 People will talk to you.

01:16:15.000 It's amazing how they'll talk to people they welcome into their home.

01:16:18.000 Especially if you have a good way about you.

01:16:20.000 And you're organized, and you're put together, and you don't have alcohol on your breath.

01:16:24.000 They'll talk to you, and they'll say, oh, it's just terrible.

01:16:26.000 You know, my kid is this and that.

01:16:27.000 Be like, can I pray for you?

01:16:29.000 And by the way, this is Wyoming, right?

01:16:31.000 This is not San Francisco, so a lot of people will say yes.

01:16:34.000 And then you can all of a sudden use your electrician job as a way to witness to other people.

01:16:39.000 And you would be shocked at how God is going to use you to be able to spread the gospel in places where people would never, ever come into gospel before.

01:16:46.000 And it doesn't mean you have to all of a sudden rename your electrical company to, like, you know, Jesus heals your electrical problems, right?

01:16:53.000 At the same time, you need to be a witness in every way because you're going to find people that are suffering.

01:16:58.000 You're going to see kind of, you know, discord and, you know, disillusionment.

01:17:03.000 And you are now a missionary and you didn't even realize it.

01:17:06.000 You get to go into more homes than I get to.

01:17:08.000 I mean, I broadcast a lot of homes, but you're going to be intimate.

01:17:11.000 And even if you walk into a business, you get to meet in your career.

01:17:14.000 How old are you?

01:17:15.000 20 years old.

01:17:16.000 You're 20 years old.

01:17:17.000 So you're going to be an electrician probably for the next 40 years, 50 years.

01:17:19.000 You're probably going to walk into...

01:17:24.000 That is a mission field, the likes of which that now at 20, you can be like, you know what my aim is?

01:17:28.000 My aim is to bring 250 people to Jesus over the next decade.

01:17:32.000 Or my why is to do that.

01:17:34.000 So now all of a sudden, you're using a trade that can then feed your family eventually and make you money to go glorify God on an ultimate purpose.

01:17:41.000 And that's my advice for all of us, is to infuse your daily work for God's glory.

01:17:46.000 And to do it in ways that we could never imagine.

01:17:49.000 And so, man, God bless you, and I just want to say that, like, I love people that go in the contrarian way.

01:17:55.000 I'm sure there was a lot of pressure to go to college, but you're going to earn a great living being an electrician.

01:18:00.000 There's a shortage of electricians in this country, as you well know, all across, because we look down upon these trades in this country, and we said we should elevate them.

01:18:07.000 So I'm counting on you to be the missionary electrician from Laramie, Wyoming.

01:18:12.000 God bless you, man.

01:18:12.000 Thank you so much.

01:18:17.000 All right, everybody.

01:18:18.000 Final point.

01:18:20.000 Wyoming, I didn't talk about Wyoming politics.

01:18:22.000 You guys need to stay involved in local politics and your state politics.

01:18:25.000 This state should be the most conservative state in the country politically.

01:18:29.000 It is in presidential politics.

01:18:31.000 It needs to start acting that way in who you elect and how you keep the pressure on.

01:18:36.000 I'm thrilled that you guys retired Liz Cheney.

01:18:38.000 Keep that up, everybody.

01:18:39.000 We love that.

01:18:42.000 God bless you, and God bless Wyoming.

01:18:44.000 Thank you guys so much.

01:18:46.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:18:48.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 08, 2025

Getting the American Youth Back in the Game — My Speech at the University of Wyoming

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