The Charlie Kirk Show - September 22, 2023


Getting to the Ray Epps Truth with Darren Beattie and Kane


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In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk is joined by Citizen Kane to discuss the ongoing fight between the Freedom Caucus and the White House over funding for the government, and the impact on the economy and the debt ceiling.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's And the Charlie Kirk Show, Citizen Canon, Darren Beattie.
00:00:03.000 We talk a little bit about Bob Menendez and then we talk about Ray Epps and then also Ron DeSantis.
00:00:09.000 Pretty exciting episode.
00:00:10.000 Cover a lot of topics.
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00:01:04.000 Eye-opening, I got to be honest, of the emails we're receiving asking, do you think America is still a great nation?
00:01:11.000 Of course, we believe we were once a great nation.
00:01:14.000 Overwhelming amount of you say no.
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00:01:17.000 Eye-opening to me.
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00:01:21.000 Joining us now is Citizen Kane from citizenfreepress.com.
00:01:26.000 Mr. Kane, thank you for taking the time.
00:01:28.000 I think all eyes are on this funding fight.
00:01:30.000 You guys at CFP Nation have been covering this.
00:01:33.000 What are you hearing, Kane, frontlines, grassroots, as far as what are the expectations and demands going into the 930 funding fight?
00:01:42.000 Well, expectations probably match up with the emails and responses you just got that you just mentioned, which is everyone is incredibly cynical.
00:01:53.000 I put up a story in the stack yesterday that some members of the Freedom Caucus are looking for an 8% reduction in federal spending.
00:02:02.000 And as one of my commenters pointed out, well, when you have a $2.2 trillion annual deficit and your budget is $7 trillion, 8% of $7 trillion is $560 billion.
00:02:14.000 So even doing something as dramatic as an 8% cut in spending would still leave the deficit at $1.6 trillion.
00:02:22.000 So getting a little deeper, I'm sure you saw the headlines.
00:02:25.000 I put up three headlines.
00:02:26.000 I think it was on Wednesday.
00:02:28.000 You know, I originally was drawn into politics because of the national debt years decades ago when it was crossing $1 trillion, $2 trillion.
00:02:38.000 So that's always been an issue that I paid very close attention to.
00:02:42.000 And as the debt balloon passed 15, the total national debt balloon passed 15 trillion, then 20, then 25, we weren't getting hit that hard, as you know, because interest rates were so low.
00:02:55.000 And they were financing the debt on short-term, essentially three-month to one-year bills.
00:03:02.000 So they were able to finance it at 1%, 2%, 3% for about 10 or 12 years.
00:03:07.000 And I kept telling people: if you own gold, if you own silver, just wait because we will revert to the mean.
00:03:15.000 We will get back to 5% interest rates.
00:03:18.000 And a 5% interest rate, and this was the point of my post earlier in the week: a 5% interest rate on a $33 trillion national debt is $1.65 trillion every single year just for your interest payment.
00:03:34.000 That knocks nothing off the debt.
00:03:36.000 All that does is keep you, essentially keep you even with paying your interest.
00:03:43.000 And so to wind it back to your question, CFP Nation is cynical.
00:03:49.000 They don't believe it.
00:03:51.000 They don't believe that the cuts that are out there are even big enough.
00:03:55.000 And so that's where we are.
00:03:57.000 So the expectation, though, I think that we are going to get hoodwinked here, though, Kane.
00:04:03.000 I mean, I don't want to get our audience's hopes up too much.
00:04:07.000 We have three very basic demands.
00:04:09.000 And it's funny, there's no war room.
00:04:10.000 There's no like group chat.
00:04:12.000 I just love how the base kind of all synergizes itself, right?
00:04:16.000 Secure the border, defund Jack Smith, defund Ukraine. 0.93
00:04:20.000 But I don't know if we're going to get any of that.
00:04:23.000 Kane, what do you think?
00:04:24.000 I think we're going to get let down by Republicans.
00:04:26.000 We always do.
00:04:27.000 That's part of the cynical nature.
00:04:29.000 I mean, we go through these fights every six months or so, and we tend to get our hopes built up that someone will show some backbone.
00:04:37.000 And we always, we're always let down.
00:04:39.000 You know, this idea of defunding Jack Smith, it's one of the best ideas that's out there in the Republican caucus.
00:04:46.000 I don't know how you get that through the Senate.
00:04:48.000 You know, this is complicated stuff, but I certainly don't have my hopes up.
00:04:52.000 No.
00:04:53.000 So we're seeing some people start to hold the line and potentially a government shutdown looming.
00:04:59.000 So, Kane, it looks as if the weaponization of government is in full light.
00:05:04.000 What we said last hour, they went after Menendez, in our opinion, because they wanted to try to send a message to the other 99 senators not to touch the FBI funding.
00:05:14.000 What are your thoughts on that?
00:05:15.000 Well, you know, right before I came on the air, I just had to check my halal meat freezer to make sure that my gold bars.
00:05:22.000 I had to make sure my gold bars are.
00:05:25.000 Talk about this, Kane.
00:05:26.000 This is unbelievable.
00:05:27.000 He ran the bribery operation through a halal meat company.
00:05:32.000 I know.
00:05:33.000 The headlines go on and on.
00:05:34.000 I've got five headlines up on Menendez.
00:05:37.000 400,000 in gold bars, running it through a halal meat company, giving information to the Egyptian intelligence that he should not have been providing involvement with New Jersey mob figures.
00:05:53.000 I mean, it's the first thought, Charlie, and maybe you know, because I haven't had time to look at it.
00:05:59.000 My first thought is the venue.
00:06:00.000 Where is this trial going to be?
00:06:02.000 Because I remember the last Menendez trial, which was in New Jersey, and it was not guilty on all counts, even though his co-conspirator in the previous bribery, I think it was an ophthalmologist from Miami, that doctor had been convicted and sentenced to prison.
00:06:20.000 And he watches the first Menendez trial in New Jersey and let him get off scot-free.
00:06:25.000 So that was one of my thoughts this morning.
00:06:28.000 Is this going to be a DC trial or is this going to be another New Jersey trial?
00:06:32.000 Have you seen anything on that?
00:06:33.000 No, I mean, it's a good question, but I think that there is this reminder, not so subtle reminder, that the administrative state wants those other 99 senators to know they're on watch and that the fourth branch of government runs the entire country.
00:06:46.000 Look, the only difference between Bob Menendez and Joe Biden is just that Bob Menendez was sloppier.
00:06:51.000 He didn't give the cokehead son all the, you know, a little bit of a distance and a little bit of the appearance of this. 1.00
00:06:57.000 And I don't want to get people's hopes up too much because then this ties to another thing that you and I have been hitting, Kane, I think more so than anybody else, is that this all has to do with Trump, the not-so-buried lead is they're trying to create the appearance of impartiality so that they can go for the political kill against Donald Trump.
00:07:15.000 Yeah, it was the first thing that I thought.
00:07:16.000 I mean, they've been looking for these little small sort of shiny things that they can hang up and say, look, we're impartial.
00:07:24.000 We don't just go after Republicans.
00:07:26.000 We just don't go after President Trump.
00:07:28.000 We're going after Democrats too.
00:07:30.000 And I, and, you know, this, we've been posting stories.
00:07:35.000 We knew that the DOJ was taking another look at Menendez.
00:07:38.000 They raided his wife or they raided, there was a raid.
00:07:41.000 His wife was involved.
00:07:42.000 This was a few months ago.
00:07:44.000 So I, you know, one of the things that you learn about how DOJ works is that they have a lot of investigations sort of percolating and they seem to be able to pull them out exactly when they need them.
00:07:56.000 And this sort of feels like that's one of those cases.
00:08:00.000 I mean, I imagine they could have brought this same case probably, you know, several months ago, or they could have delayed it for several months.
00:08:08.000 And no one would know because DOJ operates in secrecy and we don't really know exactly what they're doing on a day-to-day basis.
00:08:15.000 So they utilize issues like this, as well as the Hunter Biden, David Weiss, the sort of weak gun charges.
00:08:23.000 They use those to sort of show people: look, we're completely impartial.
00:08:28.000 And it doesn't work.
00:08:29.000 You know, it's too late for that.
00:08:31.000 Our side doesn't believe in it.
00:08:33.000 All the polls show that Republicans have great, great distrust for the Department of Justice now.
00:08:40.000 So it's definitely a blatant attempt.
00:08:44.000 I think you're right that it's a subtle message to the other members that, hey, do not defund us because we'll come immediately after you.
00:08:54.000 You could be facing indictments if you make too much noise about defunding DOJ and the FBI.
00:09:00.000 So that's none of it is.
00:09:02.000 Yeah.
00:09:03.000 Well, and it's the not so subtle reminders.
00:09:05.000 It's one thing for the House, but the Senate, the Senate has to be in complete lockstep, right?
00:09:10.000 And the Republican House is far more in touch with their voters.
00:09:13.000 They have a long way to go.
00:09:14.000 The Senate is on a different planet, Kane.
00:09:16.000 The U.S. Senate is completely in a different, they're representing different interests for a different agenda and for a different motive.
00:09:25.000 The administrative state, the fourth branch of government, wants a not-so-subtle reminder for those other 99 senators.
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00:10:42.000 Citizen Kane continues.
00:10:43.000 You've got to check out citizenfreepress.com on a daily basis.
00:10:47.000 I meet people when I do these events.
00:10:49.000 They say, Charlie, what happened to Drudge?
00:10:50.000 I say, well, there's a new Drudge, citizenfreepress.com.
00:10:53.000 In the spirit of what Drudge used to be.
00:10:55.000 How's web traffic, Citizen Kane?
00:10:57.000 It's picked up.
00:10:58.000 You asked me that one of my previous times.
00:11:00.000 It was sort of the slow period of July, August when everyone's on vacation.
00:11:04.000 We were down about 5%, 6% during July, August.
00:11:07.000 And sort of as I thought, it would come back in September strong, and it has.
00:11:12.000 We're back.
00:11:13.000 In fact, last week, I think we had two days that were record days.
00:11:17.000 So about 13 million page views was the old record.
00:11:22.000 I think we did 13.1 or 13.2.
00:11:24.000 And we're going to do about 380 million this month.
00:11:29.000 And Drudge is going to do about 580.
00:11:32.000 So we're climbing.
00:11:34.000 Wow.
00:11:35.000 Yep.
00:11:35.000 We're getting close.
00:11:36.000 So I want to go through this.
00:11:39.000 One of the most frustrating stories that I see happening, Citizen Kane, is how Governor Ron DeSantis, who I believe is America's greatest governor, is becoming less popular because he continues in this political race of which he will not be successful, absent something that none of us see coming.
00:11:56.000 When I mean none of us, it's got to be quite a black swan event.
00:11:59.000 But the chances are that Ron DeSantis will finish second or third in Iowa or third and fourth in New Hampshire, which is a shame.
00:12:05.000 It is a heavy shame, I got to be honest, Kane, because he is a great governor who has done great things in the fabulous and free state of Florida.
00:12:14.000 But he's in fifth place in New Hampshire, according to Gateway Pundit.
00:12:18.000 We are seeing Politico.com.
00:12:19.000 We're the front page of Politico.com.
00:12:21.000 The day that Menendez gets indicted, the lead was, for quite some while, they just switched it out, waiting for DeSantis to drop out.
00:12:28.000 This story bothers me because we need Ron DeSantis for the future of the Republican Party.
00:12:32.000 We need strong governors, but he's trying to put a square peg through a round hole, Citizen Kane.
00:12:38.000 Yeah, and boy, didn't we see this coming?
00:12:40.000 You and I talked about this.
00:12:42.000 We're both fans of Governor DeSantis.
00:12:44.000 We think he's been a fantastic governor who's and absolutely America first in Rhino.
00:12:50.000 You know, I reject that, or excuse me, America first and MAGA.
00:12:54.000 I reject that Governor DeSantis is a rhino, but he made a mistake and we sort of telegraphed it.
00:13:00.000 We knew this was coming.
00:13:02.000 His, you know, the path, the carpet was laid.
00:13:05.000 The beautiful red carpet was laid for him for 2028.
00:13:08.000 He needed to stand back and stand by, as Trump actually told the Proud Boys.
00:13:13.000 You know, DeSantis did not, he should not have entered the race.
00:13:16.000 The problem was donors got in his head.
00:13:18.000 They got in his head too early, almost 10, 11 months ago, November, October of last year, and they were giving him money and telling him that Trump, you know, that we needed an alternative to Trump.
00:13:28.000 And he believed that and he accepted the money.
00:13:30.000 And then I feel like he was locked in.
00:13:32.000 There needed to be an off-ramp button somewhere before he announced.
00:13:37.000 You and I could have told him, this is what is going to happen to you.
00:13:40.000 The Trump influencer armies, you know, it's too strong.
00:13:44.000 DeSantis was polling even with Trump last November.
00:13:47.000 Now he's 50 points behind.
00:13:50.000 And it's damaged him.
00:13:52.000 He's damaged goods.
00:13:53.000 I think all the time about whether or not he's going to be able to sort of slip off into the sunset and rescue himself for 2028 or if he's damaged that.
00:14:03.000 But we knew, we sort of warned him that was his danger.
00:14:07.000 You enter this race and you're going to, you know, you're going to put yourself at risk for your future.
00:14:13.000 And now, you know, his governorship ends in 2026 and he may not have anything to do.
00:14:19.000 So he's obviously not going to win.
00:14:23.000 And when you talked about a black swan event, it would take the blackest swan of all. 0.98
00:14:29.000 And then it's not even a fact that DeSantis would get the nomination because as he's fallen, others have risen.
00:14:36.000 Vivek has risen.
00:14:37.000 And so, yeah, it's, you know, I know he makes his decisions in-house.
00:14:44.000 He and his wife make these decisions themselves.
00:14:47.000 And I wish he had listened more to your show and had gotten the feeling that it wouldn't be good for him.
00:14:53.000 Yeah.
00:14:53.000 So let's build this out, right?
00:14:55.000 So DeSantis could have been an incredible organizer and just really kind of untouchable of ballot chasing, early voting, all this.
00:15:05.000 Final thoughts, Citizen Kane.
00:15:06.000 Ron DeSantis has spent $150 million to now be in sixth place in New Hampshire.
00:15:10.000 Yeah, and you were on the $150 million part early.
00:15:13.000 I remember five months ago, you were like, let's take 10% of that, 15% of that, and don't spend it on ads.
00:15:19.000 Don't spend it on promoting your campaign that's going to fail.
00:15:22.000 Spend it on getting out, getting the getting out to vote movement in the five or six swing states that really matter.
00:15:28.000 So we've been on it.
00:15:29.000 It's a shame.
00:15:30.000 It's unbelievable that Griffin and these other billionaire donors have thought that this was a good idea.
00:15:36.000 It's never going to work.
00:15:37.000 They don't understand the Trump base.
00:15:38.000 And I'll say one last shout.
00:15:40.000 I want people to go to Citizen Free Press, scan down to about the fifth link on the stack.
00:15:45.000 There's a fantastic five-minute segment of Charlie yesterday with Roseanne Barr doing name association with Hillary Clinton and Zelensky and plenty of others.
00:15:55.000 I saw that.
00:15:56.000 I thought it was fantastic.
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00:17:03.000 Joining us now is Darren Beattie.
00:17:04.000 Darren, you have a very important new piece, Revolver.news.
00:17:08.000 Merrick Garland's sloppy Ray Epps plea deal is worse than you think.
00:17:12.000 Darren, tell us about it.
00:17:14.000 Well, as many of listeners might know by now, Ray Epps was indicted finally by the DOJ in what is maybe one of the most bungling and inept efforts to salvage the crumbling narrative surrounding Ray Epps and the Fed surrection more generally.
00:17:34.000 This is over two and a half years after January 6th, and the Feds perfunctorily, weekly slap him with a singular misdemeanor charge for disorderly conduct.
00:17:51.000 At this point, it's simply too little, too late, and people see it for the desperate attempt that it is.
00:17:58.000 And so we have two brand new pieces on Revolver.news addressing this and analyzing it.
00:18:03.000 The one at the very top that you mentioned sort of looks at the statement of offense.
00:18:08.000 Basically, they gave Ray Epps a really sweet, guilty plea deal, and he's agreeing to having done a certain number of things that amount to this misdemeanor charge.
00:18:20.000 So we go through the statement of offense and its description of his behavior on the fifth and the sixth, and we compare it to what we have documented on video of him doing.
00:18:32.000 And we show what an absolute sham this statement of offense, this plea deal actually is.
00:18:40.000 And in this particular piece at Revolver.news, there's some very rare, some very amusing, and all very damning footage of Ray Epps' involvement on the fifth and on the sixth.
00:18:54.000 So then, how do you see this playing out?
00:18:57.000 Is there any way where we can ever get the truth about Ray Epps's involvement?
00:19:02.000 Because, I mean, again, the piece at Revolver.news is that Merrick Garland shoots himself in the foot with sloppy Ray Epps plea deal.
00:19:10.000 Earlier this week, DOJ charged the infamous Fed Surrection Provocateur Ray Epps.
00:19:15.000 Give us some examples, Darren, of other people that have experienced serious indictments for things that Ray Epps also did.
00:19:24.000 Well, in many cases, Ray Epps actually did more.
00:19:27.000 But just to provide a bit of context, you know, people are saying, well, Ray Epps didn't go into the Capitol.
00:19:32.000 That completely leaves out the fact that Enrique Tario, who's to date has gotten the most severe sentence of all January 6th defendants at 22 years, not only was he not in the Capitol on the 6th, he wasn't even in DC.
00:19:48.000 The reason he got this ridiculous 22-year charge is he was charged with and convicted of seditious conspiracy.
00:19:56.000 All of the severe charges are conspiracy charges.
00:20:00.000 And even though seditious conspiracy is the most serious, just about everyone remotely in Ray Epps' position would have got obstruction of an official proceeding.
00:20:10.000 But the amazing thing is, I've looked at the documents related to Tario.
00:20:15.000 It's a very flimsy case for conspiracy in his case.
00:20:18.000 But in Ray Epps's case, Epps literally acknowledges that he was involved in the conspiracy insofar as he texted his nephew saying of his involvement in January 6th, I orchestrated it.
00:20:32.000 I orchestrated it.
00:20:34.000 So the feds are throwing nearly two decade sentences and people with flimsy evidence of conspiracy.
00:20:41.000 And the one guy who admits that he orchestrated it, and there's ample supporting evidence on video, is the one person that the DOJ has bent over backward to protect and that the media, for that matter, has aggressively defended singularly amongst all of the January 6th participants.
00:21:00.000 So I got to be honest, Darren, I've had a change of opinion.
00:21:02.000 For years, I thought, hey, it's good to have these head of these agencies publicly be asked questions in five-minute intervals.
00:21:10.000 I've changed my opinion.
00:21:11.000 Darren, I saw this Merrick Garland clown show the other day, and they just lie and they give non-answers or they have a sudden case of, you know, forgetting like amnesia.
00:21:21.000 I don't remember anything.
00:21:23.000 So, Darren, we got to change the way that we hold this fourth branch of government accountable.
00:21:27.000 What is your reaction from that Merrick Garland hearing?
00:21:29.000 I learned nothing.
00:21:30.000 I thought it was largely a waste of time.
00:21:33.000 Do you share that opinion?
00:21:36.000 Yes, I do.
00:21:37.000 I think, you know, as most of these things are, they're mainly useful for generating public awareness, which is not nothing, but it doesn't deliver accountability.
00:21:48.000 And I think a general state of affairs that we're in now is at a very high level of public awareness.
00:21:54.000 I think people are more aware than ever at how sordid and dirty and dark the regime actually is.
00:22:02.000 And yet, notwithstanding this heightened awareness, there is very little, if any, a vehicle to deliver accountability for the malfeasance that we've increasingly learned about and we're learning about more and more each day.
00:22:19.000 And that's part of the tension.
00:22:22.000 And if not paradox, certainly the frustration of our moment is we're learning more and more, and we have less and less that we're actually able to do about it in terms of real accountability.
00:22:36.000 And unfortunately, as we've spoken about many times, there's such a tremendous demand for easy answers to that question, but there is no easy answer to that question as to how to deliver the infrastructure of accountability that we really need to correct what's going on in our country.
00:22:58.000 So I want to play a piece of tape here. 0.77
00:23:02.000 The idea that Merrick Garland doesn't know the answer to this question, he's a liar. 0.93
00:23:08.000 Play Cut 51.
00:23:09.000 Have you had personal contact with anyone at FBI headquarters about the Hunter Biden investigation?
00:23:21.000 I don't recollect the answer to that question, but FBI works for the Justice Department.
00:23:26.000 I'm sorry.
00:23:27.000 I'm sorry.
00:23:28.000 You don't recollect whether you've talked with anybody at FBI headquarters about an investigation of the president's son?
00:23:34.000 I don't believe that I did. 0.99
00:23:36.000 Darren, he's a liar. 1.00
00:23:39.000 He's a liar. 1.00
00:23:40.000 There is no way. 1.00
00:23:42.000 Your thoughts. 0.99
00:23:43.000 Well, he's a liar, but he's also a lawyer. 0.92
00:23:46.000 And he answered that question in a very rehearsed and very sophisticated fashion from a legal point of view. 0.94
00:23:54.000 Oh, I don't recollect.
00:23:56.000 I don't recollect.
00:23:57.000 I don't know.
00:23:57.000 And then, you know, basically saying it probably happened due to the relationship between, you know, the DOJ and the FBI, but it's certainly weaseling his way out of it.
00:24:07.000 You know, he thinks he's untouchable and he may be right.
00:24:10.000 And I think it's important to just remind ourselves of his history.
00:24:14.000 You know, this is not his first rodeo.
00:24:17.000 The system doesn't have that many people on which they can really rely who've been consistent players for the regime for decades, who know where the bodies are buried and are, you know, loyal janitors for the system.
00:24:31.000 Merrick Garland is one of those people.
00:24:33.000 You know, people forget he was a player as early as the 90s, and he actually ran the domestic extremism portfolio for Bill Clinton, where he was, you know, really spearheaded the attack on various militia movements that were emerging in the 90s.
00:24:52.000 And, you know, much more controversially, he played a very, very disturbing role in covering up key aspects of the Oklahoma City bombing.
00:25:03.000 So he's been around for a very long time.
00:25:07.000 He knows the ropes.
00:25:08.000 He knows what he's doing.
00:25:10.000 These figures are just recycled over and over again.
00:25:14.000 You know, I just, but you know, Darren, I got to interrupt.
00:25:16.000 So if the IRS comes to you, okay, and you take a fraudulent deduction or a questionable charity, let's just say deduction on a business.
00:25:25.000 And if you say to the IRS, I don't remember or I don't know, you could go to jail.
00:25:30.000 You could, if you told the IRS, oh, I don't remember the circumstances.
00:25:34.000 So for a citizen to say something like that, they could go to prison.
00:25:39.000 But the Attorney General of the United States just gets away with it.
00:25:43.000 Well, yes.
00:25:44.000 I mean, that's the accountability issue.
00:25:46.000 As to the precise legal question of whether, you know, he perjured himself in doing that or whether it can be proven or so forth.
00:25:54.000 Again, he's a lawyer.
00:25:55.000 So I think he has a rehearsed way of answering these types of questions that cover his base.
00:26:01.000 But like you say, it's obvious.
00:26:02.000 Of course, he's had these conversations.
00:26:05.000 And either way, it's like if he hasn't, it's in some ways even more damning because it shows that he's asleep at the wheel and he's basically designated somebody to do his dirty work for him.
00:26:17.000 So either way, it's unconscionable.
00:26:19.000 And it just goes to show just how egregious these people are, just in a slightly different context, but similar in spirit.
00:26:28.000 It recently came out there's a testimony that Stephen D'Antuono had before the Judiciary Committee and all sorts of things.
00:26:35.000 He was the head of the Washington Field Office of the FBI, among other things, in charge of all the J-6 investigations.
00:26:43.000 He is one of the many people who reserves his mercy and his sympathy singularly for Ray Epps.
00:26:50.000 He was asked about Ray Epps.
00:26:51.000 He said, I feel awful for Ray Epps, awful for Ray Epps.
00:26:56.000 And he was asked a follow-up question: Well, have you seen the video of Ray Epps's behavior on the fifth and the sixth?
00:27:04.000 He said, no.
00:27:05.000 Now, I find that very hard to believe, but it's remarkable that the head of the FBI's J-6 investigation.
00:27:13.000 Remember, the FBI put Ray Epps as one of the first 20 people on his most wanted list due to how egregious his behavior was.
00:27:21.000 There's a national conversation about the nature of Ray Epps' involvement that's very controversial.
00:27:27.000 And here you have the head of the JSICS investigation saying, I feel awful for Epps and he hasn't even seen the video.
00:27:36.000 Again, if he's lying, it's damning, but if he's not lying, it's even more damning because it shows how they're asleep at the wheel and they just designate underlings to do all the dirty work for them.
00:27:47.000 Either way, it's totally damning to the functioning of our system.
00:27:54.000 Your thoughts on Bob Menendez?
00:27:56.000 What's really going on here, Darren Beattie?
00:27:58.000 Well, it's certainly interesting to see a high-profile Democrat actually indicted for these particular types of charges.
00:28:06.000 I mean, the behavior itself is relatively commonplace in our politics.
00:28:09.000 That's how the swamp functions.
00:28:12.000 But it's not lost on anyone looking at this, the parallels and similarities between what Menendez is charged with and what the Biden family has been up to for a very long time.
00:28:26.000 And so there's one theory that would say this is sort of escalating the pressure on the Bidens by creating an actual precedent for indictment, sort of teeing things up for Biden.
00:28:42.000 Although, you know, the inside baseball could be such that there's something going on completely in parallel.
00:28:48.000 I think generally speaking, what we can be assured of is these types of indictments don't happen because, oh, they just found out how they're, you know, these people are doing illegal things.
00:28:59.000 This has been an open secret for a very, very long time.
00:29:02.000 The fact that Menendez is being indicted now means that he's either expendable at this point or he's counterproductive or it's somehow useful to the regime for a larger purpose.
00:29:14.000 For instance, maybe teeing up indictments for Biden or putting pressure, additional pressure on the Bidens to push them off of the table for 2024.
00:29:25.000 Indictments like this are not what people think.
00:29:28.000 It's like, oh, there's finally accountability.
00:29:30.000 It has nothing to do with accountability.
00:29:32.000 Accountability is the afterthought.
00:29:34.000 Accountability in the regime is the collateral damage.
00:29:39.000 That's one way to put it.
00:29:40.000 Accountability from the regime's perspective is the collateral damage of a strategic move that will strengthen the regime's position in its own thinking.
00:29:50.000 It is also a reminder to all other 99 senators that the administrative state runs the country, that the fourth branch of government is in charge.
00:30:00.000 Darren, what should happen on 930 and what do you think is going to happen on 930?
00:30:06.000 Well, I think it's just a matter of wait and see.
00:30:09.000 I'm not prepared to speculate that.
00:30:12.000 We just have to wait and see.
00:30:15.000 And keep in mind the context that I've been describing is that accountability is the collateral damage.
00:30:23.000 Everything is about the strategic moves of the regime and how they're positioning themselves for 2024.
00:30:31.000 It's actually an interesting strategic conundrum that they have with the number of moving parts.
00:30:37.000 They've proven themselves to be very effective in the past.
00:30:40.000 And so we just have to see whether the machine, which is still well oiled, is as efficient as it once was as recently as four years ago.
00:30:51.000 Darren Beattie, check out Revolver.news.
00:30:53.000 Great job.
00:30:53.000 Thanks so much.
00:30:54.000 Thank you.
00:30:56.000 I want to summarize our time together today by just kind of recapping the week.
00:31:01.000 Started at Northern Arizona University, and it's just amazing how the media lies and misrepresents.
00:31:08.000 You know, I've been doing this for quite some time.
00:31:10.000 For the last three years, do you know the problem that we've had at Turning Point USA?
00:31:14.000 We have not been able to find rooms big enough to fit all the students that want to attend our campus stops, especially last semester.
00:31:20.000 Ohio State packed hundreds of students.
00:31:22.000 We had to turn away.
00:31:24.000 Even at UC Santa Barbara had to turn away students all across the country.
00:31:28.000 And yet the media comes up and they all of a sudden say, oh my goodness, they say, Charlie Kirk gets heckled.
00:31:35.000 He's not very good at this thing.
00:31:36.000 These are dishonest people.
00:31:38.000 And I'm sure the media will cover our upcoming campus tour.
00:31:42.000 I'm sure they're going to cover all San Jose State, UCF, Albany, Buffalo, Georgia Tech.
00:31:48.000 I'm sure that they're going to cover all the response we receive at Arizona State University.
00:31:53.000 You guys know this, but when you really experience it on a daily basis, these are bad people.
00:31:57.000 The media, they are co-conspirators in the downfall, the destruction of the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:32:05.000 They don't care about truth.
00:32:06.000 They care about power.
00:32:06.000 They do not care about honesty.
00:32:08.000 They care about revenge.
00:32:09.000 These are bitter, broken, bad people that happen to have a keyboard.
00:32:14.000 It makes them important because they think they can control you and crush you.
00:32:19.000 Thankfully, we do not bend a knee at the golden calf of the New York Times.
00:32:26.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:32:31.000 Thank you so much for listening and God bless.
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