The Charlie Kirk Show - September 18, 2025


Glenn Beck Remembers Charlie Kirk


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Glenn Beck talks about Charlie Kirk and his impact on his life and career, and how he became the next George Washington. He also tells the story of how Charlie's sister accidentally recorded his first radio show on the washing machine.

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00:01:04.000 I remember driving around as a sophomore and a junior in high school listening to your radio program in the morning.
00:01:11.000 I wasn't there when you gave the speech at the Lincoln Memorial, is that right?
00:01:17.000 But I saw it.
00:01:18.000 I remember saw it being simulcasted.
00:01:20.000 And you said some very, I think, prophetic things there.
00:01:24.000 I know it.
00:01:25.000 I have been looking for the next George Washington.
00:01:30.000 I can't find him.
00:01:32.000 He may be eight years old, but this is the moment.
00:01:35.000 And now, 18-year-old Charlie Kirk is saying, enough is enough.
00:01:39.000 This is Charlie Kirk reporting from Marquette University.
00:01:42.000 I like ideas.
00:01:43.000 I don't like politicians.
00:01:45.000 I don't like parties.
00:01:45.000 I like principles.
00:01:46.000 Do not go quietly when truth is on the line.
00:01:50.000 I mean, democratic socialism, you know, the people's social, it's socialism, which inherently means the following.
00:01:56.000 It is immoral, it is evil, it is impractical and put in practice.
00:01:59.000 Do not surrender to the shadows.
00:02:03.000 But I'm here for the silent majority that is silent no longer to give them the courage, confidence, and conviction to fight on campuses.
00:02:12.000 Even when, and especially if you think the battle can no longer be won.
00:02:20.000 We're not going to allow the ruling class elites, the radical left, to continue to destroy this country from within.
00:02:27.000 And we are a movement here that is growing by leaps and bounds.
00:02:30.000 Charlie Kirk lived that mandate.
00:02:33.000 And I believe that marriage is a beautiful thing.
00:02:35.000 And I believe that having children is a moral good for society.
00:02:38.000 Biggest blessing.
00:02:39.000 Without a doubt.
00:02:40.000 I don't think you know the impact.
00:02:42.000 You say, oh, Glenn, you made an impact on my life.
00:02:45.000 Do you realize the impact you're having on the country?
00:02:48.000 Remember when I did the thing in Washington, D.C. and restoring honor?
00:02:52.000 I do.
00:02:52.000 And I said, somewhere in this crowd, maybe he's seven, maybe he's 15, somewhere in this crowd is the next George Washington.
00:03:02.000 And 25 years from now, he will come not to this stair, but to those stairs.
00:03:10.000 We want to overemphasize grace when in reality Christ loves us too much.
00:03:17.000 To have us continue to live in sin, he wants us to try to elevate our actions to glorify God in all that we do.
00:03:27.000 And he can proclaim, I have a new dream.
00:03:31.000 I just went to church for the first time in several years.
00:03:35.000 Today we went to church for their first time in a really long time.
00:03:39.000 I've never ever opened the Bible before.
00:03:42.000 And something was calling me to my husband's Bible.
00:03:45.000 Here's the line for the second service.
00:03:47.000 And there's never a line.
00:03:49.000 Jesus of Nazareth and the resurrection is the pinpoint of my belief that Jesus did rise from the grave so that we may live.
00:03:57.000 The light is dimming.
00:03:59.000 Yes.
00:04:01.000 But it always does before the dawn.
00:04:08.000 Hello.
00:04:09.000 My name is Glenn Beck, and I am a friend of Charlie Kirk's.
00:04:20.000 You may not know who I am, but one thing I am known for is my emotions.
00:04:28.000 And I think we're going to need a tarp today.
00:04:33.000 This is, I knew this was going to be difficult.
00:04:44.000 But to sit in the studio right next to his chair Is more difficult than I imagined.
00:05:05.000 I want to talk to you a little bit about the future, but I want to talk to you a little bit about my friend as well.
00:05:17.000 I knew Charlie when he was young.
00:05:21.000 I first met him, I think he was 17 years old.
00:05:28.000 He was amazing.
00:05:31.000 He was so well read, so smart, so clear.
00:05:42.000 I thought this is an amazing man.
00:05:44.000 I remember the first time I met Ben Shapiro, I think he was 13 years old.
00:05:49.000 I interviewed him the first time.
00:05:51.000 He was sitting on his family's washing machine doing an interview with me.
00:05:58.000 And he said he was on a phone that used to have a hard line, so it had the phone wire that he had to pull it all the way around, and he couldn't keep his sister quiet.
00:06:11.000 So he went in and closed it on the phone wire and sat on the washing machine.
00:06:16.000 Stop it.
00:06:17.000 I'm going to be on the Glenn Beck show.
00:06:20.000 And he was impressive.
00:06:23.000 But there was something special about Charlie Kirk.
00:06:27.000 I want to share a story that I've never shared before.
00:06:41.000 And I so regret that we ran out of time.
00:06:50.000 It's a story that I had hoped to tell Charlie myself in the next couple of months.
00:07:03.000 When I first met Charlie, and this is the kind of guy he was, he was so gracious.
00:07:09.000 I first met him, he was young.
00:07:12.000 And I said, So, what do you want to do?
00:07:14.000 What is it you want?
00:07:16.000 What do you want to do?
00:07:20.000 So gracious, he said, I want to be you.
00:07:23.000 I want to do what you do.
00:07:26.000 Let me translate.
00:07:28.000 I want to be Rush Limbaugh.
00:07:31.000 He didn't want to be me.
00:07:32.000 He wanted to be Rush Limbaugh.
00:07:34.000 He wanted to be one of the, as Rush said, radio's greatest of all time.
00:07:42.000 And I remember thinking, well, kid, maybe someday, because I think you have it.
00:07:52.000 I brought something with me today that I thought was appropriate while I did the show that I would sit in front of Charlie's microphone.
00:08:04.000 It was given to me after the death of Rush Limbaugh by his wife.
00:08:10.000 It is Russia's golden microphone.
00:08:25.000 I think it's appropriate that it sits in front of Charlie's microphone.
00:08:38.000 What I would have said to Charlie was you were thinking too small.
00:08:55.000 I want to be Rush Limbaugh someday.
00:08:59.000 I'm a broadcaster.
00:09:00.000 Rush was a broadcaster.
00:09:03.000 But Charlie was a broadcaster and a narrowcaster.
00:09:07.000 Charlie was a pastor and a priest.
00:09:11.000 And listening to the way he could argue and think differently, he was a rabbi as well, and one of the best.
00:09:19.000 He was a political organizer.
00:09:21.000 He was a political think tank himself.
00:09:28.000 He was a compassionate friend.
00:09:32.000 He surpassed Rush Limbaugh by miles.
00:09:41.000 We must stop calling Charlie anything other than a civil rights leader.
00:09:47.000 We need to plant that stake deep.
00:09:52.000 It is time that we point out that what he was doing was not politics.
00:09:59.000 What he was doing was trying to stand up for people's civil rights, to show people how a civilization is not a civilization, unless you can have a dialogue with people who are diametrically opposed to you, that don't believe anything that you believe in.
00:10:18.000 And yet, you can have a civil dialogue and how important that is.
00:10:22.000 That's our civil right, our right to free speech.
00:10:26.000 And that gunman was trying to take that right away from him and from you and everyone else.
00:10:32.000 Shut up. 0.95
00:10:33.000 You will be silenced.
00:10:34.000 You will not say those things.
00:10:36.000 And there has been a force in this country to try to convince people that you don't have a right, that you have a responsibility to silence others.
00:10:45.000 You don't.
00:10:46.000 In this country, one of our main civil rights is we can express ourselves the way we feel we need to express ourselves.
00:10:55.000 And I'm sorry if you don't like it.
00:10:58.000 You have to just take it and then say, I'd like to have a discussion with you on that.
00:11:02.000 I'd like to know how you got there.
00:11:04.000 I'd like to have the opportunity to argue against that.
00:11:08.000 And you have that right to argue against it.
00:11:10.000 And hopefully, if we are more like Charlie Kirk, we're having those dialogues with each other in a civilized fashion.
00:11:17.000 But make no mistake, Charlie Kirk was a civil rights leader as much as Martin Luther King.
00:11:24.000 Andrew Colvett is with us.
00:11:26.000 You were here a week ago.
00:11:31.000 We're a week away.
00:11:33.000 And what?
00:11:34.000 Same time.
00:11:36.000 Yeah, we're probably about two hours or so out from the exact time of being a week.
00:11:48.000 How are you doing?
00:11:48.000 How's everybody at Turning Point doing?
00:11:51.000 Well, after you made everybody bawl their eyes out in your first segment, you're open, Glenn.
00:11:57.000 And I mean, I just, I have to say thank you for that.
00:12:02.000 I can't even believe I'm seated so close to Rush's golden EIB microphone.
00:12:08.000 That's crazy.
00:12:08.000 And Charlie and I, I can't say how many times we said the golden EIB microphone.
00:12:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:12:16.000 And it was beautiful.
00:12:18.000 We were all crying out in the control room.
00:12:20.000 And so I am right now in this moment very emotional.
00:12:25.000 And I know that you watched his story grow and that tribute about the next George Washington and how he was, Charlie was so aware of that speech you gave.
00:12:36.000 And he wasn't there in person, but he watched it somewhere else live.
00:12:42.000 And right now, I don't have many words because of how moving that was.
00:12:49.000 You know, I said the other day, and I don't mean this, I mean, I'm not saying this to self-aggrandize at all.
00:13:02.000 But I looked at him almost like a professional son.
00:13:09.000 You know what I mean?
00:13:11.000 I looked at him because I watched him from a distance and I saw him young and I saw his desires and how he built and everything that he did.
00:13:24.000 And as I was thinking about that, as I packed that microphone up yesterday, I was thinking about him and I thought, Charlie would have been president.
00:13:36.000 Charlie would have been president.
00:13:38.000 Rush wasn't president.
00:13:39.000 Rush didn't have a desire to be president.
00:13:41.000 And I don't know if Rush would have made a good president.
00:13:42.000 I'd make a horrible president.
00:13:44.000 I don't know.
00:13:44.000 Rush would have been a better president than me.
00:13:46.000 Charlie could have been a great president.
00:13:51.000 He surpassed all of us.
00:13:55.000 I don't know if there's another person in history on our side, at least in the last 150 years, that was like Charlie.
00:14:04.000 To replace Charlie, you need maybe six people at the top of their craft to cover everything that he has done.
00:14:13.000 Yeah.
00:14:14.000 You know, I can't tell you how many times I was with Charlie and people would beg him, you have to run for president, you have to run for president.
00:14:21.000 Charlie would always, you know, say, no, no, no, I'm happy doing what I'm doing.
00:14:25.000 And I will say, Charlie was the existence of J.D. Vance gave Charlie a lot of emotional freedom to say that next man up is JD.
00:14:36.000 Our job is to support JD.
00:14:38.000 And I, you know, we wouldn't necessarily be loud and proud about that on this show because we understand there's dynamics.
00:14:45.000 You know, Charlie was in so many ways being honed and sharpened.
00:14:52.000 And he was.
00:14:53.000 Yeah, for such a job.
00:14:56.000 Look at the difference in him in 10 years.
00:14:58.000 Yeah.
00:14:58.000 15 years.
00:14:59.000 Look at the difference in him.
00:15:00.000 Can you imagine if he had 10 more years?
00:15:03.000 Oh, my God.
00:15:04.000 And people need to understand that.
00:15:06.000 Yes, Charlie was a brilliant communicator.
00:15:07.000 Yes, he was an autodidact who kept studying the classics and political and philosophy and theology and all of these things.
00:15:14.000 And he was deeply, deeply sincere in his faith.
00:15:17.000 But he was also so skilled at the quiet things, the behind-the-scenes things.
00:15:22.000 And he would honor people.
00:15:24.000 He was trusted.
00:15:25.000 If you got into a heated discussion in private with Charlie, nobody would ever hear about that.
00:15:30.000 If anything happened, because his goal was to keep people together, he understood that there are so many forces in our world and our politics that are ripping everybody apart.
00:15:39.000 And I said this yesterday, but it bears repeating.
00:15:43.000 Just a few weeks before his death, he sent me this hierarchy of what the Greeks considered to be the highest virtues and the highest callings.
00:15:51.000 And he said to me, he said, Andrew, we are not the actors and the entertainers that are at the bottom.
00:15:57.000 That's how the Greeks put it.
00:15:59.000 He said, we need to strive to be statesmen and philosophers up at the top and theologians.
00:16:06.000 And he said, this is what we're trying to be, not that.
00:16:08.000 Anybody could do that.
00:16:09.000 Not everybody can do that.
00:16:11.000 And he knew that God had put him in a position that he could keep people together.
00:16:16.000 And so, you know, there would be times where everybody wanted us to go all in on this story or go all in on that.
00:16:22.000 And Charlie saw three steps ahead all the time.
00:16:25.000 He was always thinking long-term, what will that do to the movement?
00:16:28.000 And so he would craft his messaging and his strategy and who we invited to what, you know, around how do you manage this current moment so that everybody is still a part of this thing.
00:16:41.000 I can't thank you enough for inviting us to be here.
00:16:44.000 We are enough for coming.
00:16:46.000 No, I mean, it is an honor.
00:16:48.000 I called Stu yesterday and I said, Stu, you should come with me.
00:16:50.000 And he said, this is history in the making.
00:16:54.000 I mean, it's an honor to be here.
00:16:56.000 Well, you honor us and your beautiful tribute and open to him.
00:16:59.000 And I know we're not done yet, but I can't thank you enough.
00:17:03.000 Thank you.
00:17:03.000 God bless.
00:17:04.000 And God bless everybody at TPUSA.
00:17:07.000 Want to get involved?
00:17:08.000 Go to tpusa.com.
00:17:10.000 Hamilton and Madison and Jay, who were obviously the designers of and explainers of the U.S. Constitution, they wanted spirited tension between the branches.
00:17:20.000 They wanted collision.
00:17:21.000 They wanted the branches to kind of not to be at war with each other, but to have different opinions on how governing should this idea that the executive branch must bend a knee because Congress has appropriated the money.
00:17:33.000 And so, look, in addition to that, is if we can get, this is where the other thing is that I was pushing for, and I don't think it's going to happen, is if we can reauthorize the Presidential Reorganization Act, which has been authorized them many times, which essentially says if an agency can do the work that is duplicative of another agency, it no longer needs to exist.
00:17:52.000 So let's just take the Department of Education, which needs to end.
00:17:54.000 The Department of Education needs to be shut down.
00:17:56.000 Do you guys agree?
00:17:57.000 And the Department of Education.
00:17:59.000 So do you believe, do you believe Linda McMahon, because she's a great manager.
00:18:03.000 She's phenomenal. 1.00
00:18:04.000 Is she a managed to the close?
00:18:09.000 She shares the president's stated plan to close the Department of Education.
00:18:13.000 But let's just take three examples of how that can happen before you close it.
00:18:16.000 Student loans.
00:18:17.000 That should be under the Department of Treasury.
00:18:19.000 Put that under Treasury.
00:18:20.000 There's no reason it should be that.
00:18:21.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:18:22.000 Why do we have it?
00:18:23.000 That was a problem.
00:18:24.000 I agree.
00:18:25.000 That's going to require Congress.
00:18:27.000 What I'm getting at, though, is at least you can break apart.
00:18:29.000 Yes, I agree.
00:18:30.000 We should get rid of any subsidized student loans.
00:18:32.000 I'm just getting at this is the way that you can actually weaken an agency to no longer exist through duplicative type processes.
00:18:39.000 School-assisted lunch.
00:18:40.000 You can make an argument for it or against it.
00:18:42.000 But school-assisted lunch basically that the taxpayers need to pay for lunch. 0.90
00:18:46.000 That could be under Department of Agriculture.
00:18:47.000 They do food stamps.
00:18:48.000 Much better done.
00:18:49.000 And then finally, they have this whole separate office of the Department of Education that is Senate-confirmed Tier 2 position that is the Office of Civil Rights.
00:18:56.000 Put that under the Department of Justice.
00:18:58.000 They don't need your own civil rights division in the Department of Education that goes and harasses our Christian schools and goes after conservative kids. 1.00
00:19:05.000 So you can completely close that.
00:19:06.000 That's three functions.
00:19:07.000 All of a sudden, the Department of Education inherently weakens.
00:19:10.000 And you know this, Glenn.
00:19:11.000 The Department of Education actually never existed.
00:19:13.000 It used to be called HEW, Health, Education, and Welfare.
00:19:17.000 And in fact, we could remerge these together and then we could find duplicative type processes and better synergies.
00:19:25.000 That is even before we get more to the fundamental question of which I have and you have, I don't think the Department of Education is constitutional.
00:19:32.000 I do not think that it's in the original intent as written that the federal government has any role in the education of our children, period.
00:19:41.000 What progressives do understand, but the actual voter that votes usually with Democrats don't understand is, I don't have a problem with the way you live in California.
00:19:53.000 You want to live in California and you want to be as insane as you are.
00:19:58.000 You can do that.
00:19:59.000 Your own community can vote for that and that's fine.
00:20:03.000 I'm not going to pay for it.
00:20:04.000 And don't force me to live that way, you know?
00:20:09.000 And that's unfortunately the problem.
00:20:11.000 We have San Francisco values in small towns that do not agree with those values at all.
00:20:18.000 And it's forced upon them.
00:20:19.000 Yes.
00:20:19.000 It's forced upon them because it's federal.
00:20:21.000 The Office of Civil Rights at the Department of Education.
00:20:22.000 And even worse, I mean, you guys remember, this was not a very covered issue.
00:20:28.000 The Department of Education was using school-assisted lunch funding to force transgender bathrooms. 0.99
00:20:34.000 It was a lesson.
00:20:34.000 Do you remember this?
00:20:36.000 Like they said, we are not going to give money for kids that need assistance for lunch if you don't have radical transgender policies. 0.74
00:20:43.000 So what we've done is we've created this insane leverage that the Department of Education should not have over local municipalities and school districts.
00:20:52.000 Let me describe the scene.
00:20:53.000 I got here this morning about 4.30 a.m.
00:20:56.000 I do a national radio program.
00:20:58.000 Starts at 9 a.m. Eastern Time.
00:21:01.000 So by 6, we were broadcasting.
00:21:04.000 And there wasn't anybody here.
00:21:05.000 Everybody is getting some well-deserved sleep.
00:21:07.000 It looks like, I mean, nobody here has slept for a while.
00:21:12.000 And we got here and there's police that barricade the road right in front and there are police all around.
00:21:19.000 And it's an enormous tribute that is on the road sitting in front of TPUSA.
00:21:32.000 People have kind of, it reminded me honestly of Princess Diana.
00:21:35.000 I hadn't seen the outpouring like this since Elvis died and when Princess Diana died.
00:21:43.000 It's just this amazing outpouring of love.
00:21:47.000 During the show, during my national radio broadcast, my staff walked in and said, you have to move to another building.
00:21:56.000 There is a bomb threat.
00:21:58.000 And somebody that was here in front apparently put a package down and then gave a bomb threat.
00:22:05.000 Turned out to be just some, I don't know, I don't know.
00:22:10.000 But Satan thinks that he still can win.
00:22:14.000 And the more he pushes, the brighter the light is going to get.
00:22:19.000 I want to go to Ryan Morrow.
00:22:21.000 I talked to him earlier today because one of the things that we have to do is we have to stop the funding of all of these things that are on the left that we have honestly now started to find out.
00:22:32.000 I mean, I've been exposing this stuff on chalkboards for years and years, almost two decades now, and how the George Soros's et cetera of the world are funding all of the worst of the worst.
00:22:45.000 And Ryan has done his work and has really come up with some smoking guns, especially on George Soros, Donald Trump can use as Rico charges.
00:22:59.000 And Ryan is here to lay this all out.
00:23:02.000 What did you find, Ryan?
00:23:04.000 Well, we had some amazing findings according to George Soros' own files from his Open Society Foundations.
00:23:11.000 So myself, my colleagues at Capital Research Center basically went through as many grants of his, as many funding streams as we could find.
00:23:19.000 And here's the smoking guns that we believe that President Trump, if he's informed of it, can use to go after Soros' network of hate in various ways.
00:23:30.000 We traced over $80 million going from the Open Society Foundations to at least 54 groups engaged in crime and domestic terrorism on U.S. soil or that are pro-terrorism, endorsing things like the October 7th attacks, or are associated with foreign terrorist organizations or explicitly pro-terror groups.
00:23:55.000 And this is according to his own files, so it's rock solid.
00:23:59.000 And overall of that amount, over 23 million went to at least seven groups that are doing things that meet the FBI's definition of domestic terrorism.
00:24:09.000 Can you see and things like that?
00:24:12.000 Can you be specific, more specific than this?
00:24:16.000 Absolutely.
00:24:17.000 I'm happy to.
00:24:18.000 So the Center for Third World Organizing, for example, is an organization that has a hub that fused together several really extreme organizations.
00:24:27.000 We found $400,000 going to them.
00:24:30.000 And they openly boast of the fact that they threw down during the uprisings in Minnesota, obviously referring to the rioting and boasting of how many thousands of people they helped train.
00:24:41.000 A lot of these groups have created what they'll call like a protest guide or an activism toolkit.
00:24:46.000 And it sounds innocuous.
00:24:47.000 Then you open it up and you'll see support for Hamas in it, but then they'll sometimes slyly say, for more information, go to these hyperlinks.
00:24:55.000 And you go to the hyperlinks, and there'll be guides recommending things like property destruction, violence, false IDs, how to obstruct justice, all of these things.
00:25:06.000 And they know darn well what they're doing.
00:25:08.000 They won't put that there by accident.
00:25:10.000 Some of the more careful ones will just direct their readership to anarchist websites with all that material, knowing that they'll see it when it's there.
00:25:19.000 And so, yeah, I mean, it's really stunning.
00:25:21.000 And some of these groups are coalitions.
00:25:23.000 So when I say 54 groups, just one of those might have 300 entities in that one.
00:25:30.000 So it's actually the real number is actually much higher.
00:25:33.000 Let me play something from October 2010, where I was talking about the RICO Act and George Soros.
00:25:41.000 Listen to this.
00:25:42.000 But this is the ABCs of Revolution.
00:25:46.000 This is only a copy of it.
00:25:47.000 I only have a copy of it.
00:25:48.000 I don't have the original yet.
00:25:50.000 They talk about urban guerrilla tactics.
00:25:57.000 The incident in any area is occupied by revolutionaries, it must be appropriated forthwith according to two incontestable principles: self-defense and free distribution of the goods produced.
00:26:09.000 The best way to avoid isolation is to attack.
00:26:11.000 Thus, one must, with an eye to the internationalist direction.
00:26:15.000 Remember, workers of the world unite.
00:26:17.000 Create other nuclei for occupations and appropriations.
00:26:21.000 Strengthen and protect liaison between revolutionary zones.
00:26:25.000 Isolate the enemy and destroy communications.
00:26:28.000 Use commando tactics to harass and rear a guard and avoid encirclement by splitting up his forces.
00:26:37.000 Disorganize the counter-revolution by rendering its principal leaders and the best strategists harmless.
00:26:44.000 Do you have that one?
00:26:47.000 Disorganize the counter-revolution by rendering its principal leaders and the best strategists harmless.
00:26:55.000 How do they do that?
00:26:57.000 Is the left threatening?
00:27:02.000 Is that something that people who are in that position should worry about their lives?
00:27:06.000 Or is that just render them harmless by, let's just see if I can come up with a crazy example.
00:27:12.000 Here, some rich dude takes a million dollars and does everything they can to smear and discredit.
00:27:21.000 By the way, George, have you ever heard of the RICO statute?
00:27:24.000 I just anyway.
00:27:27.000 RICO, this is 2010, 15 years ago.
00:27:31.000 I was saying George Soros should be grabbed by the RICO Act.
00:27:36.000 Donald Trump looks like he's now willing to go there.
00:27:40.000 And again, we're talking to Ryan Morrow, who says he has the goods on this.
00:27:46.000 How long have you been working on this, Ryan?
00:27:48.000 Probably about a year.
00:27:49.000 And what got you started on this?
00:27:52.000 Well, I think it started when I released a report breaking down the anti-Israel protests that were going on.
00:27:57.000 I saw that that was like manufactured.
00:27:59.000 It was like pushing a button.
00:28:00.000 And we identified over 150 pro-terrorism groups organizing those protests.
00:28:06.000 There weren't peaceful groups behind it.
00:28:09.000 And so when that report came out, which is very similar to this one, this is almost somewhat of a sequel.
00:28:14.000 One of the radical entities that's Hamas friendly had this to say about the research that we released.
00:28:20.000 So the same would be true of the source report that we're about to release at one o'clock.
00:28:25.000 It said that these reports we're doing pose an existential threat that could easily mean a quick death for most of the groups by getting their tax-exempt statuses ripped away from them.
00:28:37.000 And so those that survive would suffer mass chaos.
00:28:41.000 So they're saying that we have figured out how to beat them if we just get this into the right hands.
00:28:48.000 And so at one o'clock, this is what we're dropping about George Soros as part of our investigation.
00:28:54.000 And that's what I said on your show earlier.
00:28:56.000 The counteroffensive begins today.
00:28:59.000 It begins at one o'clock.
00:29:01.000 You know, it was probably 2010 that George Soros' number two guy met with my number two guy.
00:29:12.000 And they had lunch in a public place because that's what we requested when they said we want to have lunch.
00:29:19.000 And I was not part of it, but it was just the second in command, if you will, meeting with each other and sending messages.
00:29:27.000 And it started, this lunch started with, you need to tell your boss, your boss, me, is hurting my boss, Soros, and it's going to stop.
00:29:39.000 And my guy said, I don't think it is.
00:29:42.000 I mean, if he's getting something wrong, he'd be more than happy to correct it.
00:29:46.000 And he said at the time, your boss needs to understand the ship has already sailed.
00:29:52.000 It's just pulling out of port right now.
00:29:54.000 And you're either on that ship or you're not.
00:29:57.000 And you want to be on that ship.
00:30:00.000 And he said, my boss is going to say he doesn't want to be on that ship.
00:30:05.000 And at the very end of the conversation, he said, I want you to hear me clearly.
00:30:11.000 This is going to stop.
00:30:15.000 We took that as a very large threat.
00:30:17.000 And that is one of the reasons why I did the Puppet Master show on Fox.
00:30:22.000 I did a three-day special showing everything about George Soros that we could find at the time.
00:30:30.000 You realize who you're getting into war with, don't you?
00:30:35.000 I do, and I don't care.
00:30:38.000 I know I'm supposed to do this.
00:30:41.000 And so that ship that he was talking about, we're going to sink it.
00:30:46.000 And all the other big billionaire-funded organizations are out there that are funding this type of filth that are poisoning American civil society and spreading this type of hate that resulted in what happened a week ago.
00:31:00.000 You're on notice.
00:31:01.000 If you're doing this by mistake, I will volunteer my time to help you vet the organizations that you finance so you don't fund terrorism and hate.
00:31:10.000 If you're genuine, not genuine.
00:31:13.000 And you continue doing it, you're next.
00:31:16.000 Looking at, you know, looking at your research, there's a handful of grants that are nuts for things like children that include ideas of hierarchy, supremacy, colonialism, and to the Alinsky Institute in France, which is in honor of Sololinsky, if I'm not mistaken, right?
00:31:35.000 That's exactly right.
00:31:36.000 And when you go through the report, you'll see that the organizations that they're funding are so blatantly connected to foreign terrorist organizations, so blatantly extremist.
00:31:44.000 This goes on year after year.
00:31:46.000 So before, when there would be reports about this in drips and drabs, I could kind of understand some people saying, well, out thousands of grants, maybe some mistakes are made.
00:31:54.000 This is no mistake.
00:31:56.000 We have disproven this.
00:31:58.000 And I keep thinking about how when the Iranian regime allows pro-terrorism entities to fundraise on Iranian soil, what do we call that?
00:32:06.000 We call that state sponsorship of terrorism.
00:32:09.000 In the United States, when American nonprofits in the nonprofit sector allow pro-terror entities to fundraise on American soil, what do we call it?
00:32:18.000 We call it charity.
00:32:20.000 And so that has to come to an end.
00:32:22.000 The IRS code, as we talk about in the report, is being violated.
00:32:25.000 You're not allowed to engage in crime.
00:32:27.000 You're not even allowed to encourage crime.
00:32:30.000 That can't be part of your nonprofit mission.
00:32:32.000 And so these statuses need to be revoked.
00:32:35.000 And just like that one extremist group said, if we go down that path, we don't even have to get into the hate speech argument.
00:32:40.000 Yeah.
00:32:41.000 We can beat them.
00:32:42.000 We can beat them rapidly.
00:32:44.000 Ryan, thank you so much.
00:32:45.000 I really appreciate your conversation with us.
00:32:48.000 Thank you.
00:32:50.000 How many people on earth this last week became a Christian on the killing field? 1.00
00:32:56.000 They saw Charlie Kirk and they thought, you know, I wasn't a Christian before, but I think I understand what it means to be a Christian today.
00:33:03.000 Abraham Lincoln said, I'm not a Christian.
00:33:05.000 Little Abraham Lincoln, six, seven, eight years old, he would get in trouble and his dad would get drunk and he would take his belt and he would whip him while quoting the scriptures.
00:33:15.000 Well, there's nothing that makes somebody want to be a Christian more than that.
00:33:18.000 And so Abraham Lincoln rejected Christianity.
00:33:21.000 And he said later in life, he said, when I became president, I wasn't really a Christian.
00:33:27.000 When my son died, I wasn't a Christian.
00:33:29.000 I didn't become a Christian until Gettysburg.
00:33:32.000 Gettysburg happened in the summer.
00:33:33.000 And we think, oh, then Abraham Lincoln went up there right after.
00:33:36.000 Or he went up a couple of months later after they cleared out all the fields and buried all the dead.
00:33:40.000 He comes in November and they were still stacking bodies up like cordwood.
00:33:46.000 Imagine the scene.
00:33:47.000 Imagine the smell of Gettysburg.
00:33:50.000 He says, that's when I became a Christian.
00:33:52.000 That event brought him to his knees where he begged the Lord and said, what is it you want?
00:33:57.000 I'll do it.
00:33:58.000 Just tell me.
00:33:59.000 We were losing the war like crazy.
00:34:02.000 He issues a proclamation and a request for the nation to go into prayer, fasting, and humiliation, meaning asking God for forgiveness for all of our sins.
00:34:12.000 And he basically said, whatever God wants, he's just.
00:34:15.000 This was wrong.
00:34:16.000 We did it.
00:34:17.000 Let's pray, fast, and beg for forgiveness.
00:34:20.000 That's how we won.
00:34:21.000 It was the moment of Gettysburg.
00:34:23.000 This may be the moment of Gettysburg in our generation. 0.71
00:34:26.000 The number of people who are saying, I'm committing to Christ.
00:34:29.000 I'm going to church.
00:34:30.000 I'm going to change.
00:34:31.000 It's sweeping the nation.
00:34:33.000 It is sweeping the world.
00:34:34.000 This indeed was a turning point.
00:34:38.000 We have something special that we made for Charlie and the staff here at TPUSA coming up in just a minute.
00:34:46.000 I haven't even heard it.
00:34:48.000 My daughter, who is 19 years old, made it with David Osmond last night.
00:34:56.000 And she was there about 10 feet away from the tent when Charlie was shot.
00:35:03.000 And we'll tell you a little bit about this next hour.
00:35:09.000 Glenn, talk to me about the path forward from here, because I think a lot of people right now have that moment where they're so thankful for everything that Charlie had done and appreciated his approach to everything, this open approach, open debate.
00:35:23.000 And they want to continue that approach.
00:35:26.000 I do think there's also a lot of people who look at it and say, for everything that Charlie tried to do, look at what's the price he paid.
00:35:33.000 And we can't just do that anymore.
00:35:36.000 We have to go farther.
00:35:37.000 We have to change this.
00:35:38.000 We have to, there's a righteous anger that people want to move upon.
00:35:45.000 The righteous anger.
00:35:46.000 So the righteous anger, that is righteous and right and natural.
00:35:50.000 I mean, it is one of the phases of grief.
00:35:53.000 And we went through the first phase, you know, day one, denial.
00:35:57.000 I mean, we saw the video.
00:36:00.000 I did, unfortunately.
00:36:01.000 I saw the video and I called a surgeon friend of mine right away and I sent him the video and I said, is there any way?
00:36:06.000 And he's like, no, no way.
00:36:08.000 No way.
00:36:09.000 And yet, for two hours, I was on the air with Megan Kelly and I was saying, well, no, there's a chance.
00:36:16.000 There's a chance.
00:36:17.000 Because I wanted to believe that.
00:36:19.000 Anger is part of that.
00:36:22.000 And we're going to go through it.
00:36:23.000 But I have been so amazed and so proud of our side.
00:36:27.000 I'm going to tell you next hour of a private conversation that I had with Charlie about assassinations.
00:36:36.000 And so far, everybody is handling it exactly the way he would have hoped.
00:36:41.000 And I know it to be true because I talked to him about it.
00:36:44.000 Well, certainly not everybody is handling it the right way.
00:36:46.000 It's funny because I had a conversation with a friend of mine yesterday and we were talking about the reaction to all of this.
00:36:53.000 And we kind of said, are you encouraged by what you're seeing or are you despondent?
00:37:00.000 I'm very encouraged.
00:37:01.000 It's fascinating.
00:37:02.000 My instant reaction was despondent because I don't know.
00:37:06.000 Maybe I've tortured myself with too much of the negative reaction.
00:37:09.000 Maybe.
00:37:09.000 However, talking it out, I think I've changed my mind on it.
00:37:14.000 Look how many people have gone to church for the first time.
00:37:17.000 See, this is the difference.
00:37:18.000 Charlie wasn't just a political guy.
00:37:20.000 Charlie was an evangelical preacher in the end.
00:37:25.000 And he was talking about universal things and things that people are starving for.
00:37:30.000 And look at the reality.
00:37:32.000 Look at the God movement that is happening.
00:37:34.000 He short-circuited a lot of stuff.
00:37:37.000 And now God is moving with his people.
00:37:42.000 And I find that extraordinarily optimistic.
00:37:45.000 I think what we have to be careful of is, you know, I worry, I'll start to worry about the people of TPUSA.
00:37:52.000 I mean, we've already been praying for you, but I'm going to start worrying about you next week and the week after because I've had enough people in my life die.
00:38:00.000 Once company goes home, then you're left alone with the reality.
00:38:04.000 And that's when that despair or hopelessness can start to play games with you.
00:38:11.000 Don't let it.
00:38:12.000 I mean, there is, I know what Charlie, I'll tell you in a minute.
00:38:16.000 I know what Charlie would have wanted.
00:38:18.000 And what he would have wanted was move forward.
00:38:22.000 Keep moving.
00:38:23.000 Keep pressing forward.
00:38:25.000 Keep staying true to the principles that we have laid out.
00:38:30.000 And that's the only thing I worry about on our side is if anybody gets angry and somebody's going to do something stupid.
00:38:38.000 And I hope that doesn't happen.
00:38:40.000 I pray that doesn't happen.
00:38:41.000 I don't think it will, quite honestly, but I could be wrong.
00:38:45.000 But if we have real discipline and then constitutional discipline, you know, this hate speech debate, Charlie wouldn't have been for that ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
00:39:00.000 I know that he tweeted explicitly about it.
00:39:02.000 Hate speech.
00:39:04.000 There is no such thing as hate speech.
00:39:06.000 There is speech.
00:39:07.000 There's uncomfortable speech.
00:39:08.000 There's evil speech.
00:39:09.000 There's bad speech.
00:39:10.000 There's speech you don't like at all.
00:39:12.000 There's speech you would just want to say to somebody, shut up.
00:39:16.000 But there's no such thing as hate speech.
00:39:18.000 There is no legal position for in this country.
00:39:22.000 The only kind of speech that requires protection is the kind of speech that everybody hates.
00:39:29.000 So there is no place for hate speech.
00:39:32.000 And it bothers me, this Pam Bondi movement of going after people with hate speech.
00:39:39.000 No, we don't do that.
00:39:41.000 You have a right to speak.
00:39:43.000 And I will fight to my dying breath for your right to say what you believe.
00:39:49.000 I don't necessarily agree with you, but it's more important for me to fight for your right of freedom of speech if I don't agree with you.
00:39:58.000 I don't need to fight for freedom of speech that agrees with me.
00:40:02.000 You led the Tea Party movement in 2011.
00:40:06.000 Those are my words, not yours.
00:40:07.000 So 2010, 2011, you were a big part of it.
00:40:11.000 You were a very vocal piece of it.
00:40:14.000 And President Trump in a lot of different ways has led the revitalization and had given a lot of Americans hope that they thought that this country could not be turned around.
00:40:24.000 You know what's really strange?
00:40:25.000 He has the same thing that Tulsi Gabbard has, and they don't agree on anything.
00:40:31.000 Basically anything.
00:40:32.000 You know what I mean?
00:40:33.000 But Tulsi is a, she's so far out of the mainstream and she is so far left. 0.99
00:40:41.000 But at no time do I believe she hates America.
00:40:45.000 I believe she loves America.
00:40:46.000 We just disagree.
00:40:48.000 And what used to bring us together is that we can disagree, but we have a fundamental understanding that this country is a positive force and you can make it.
00:40:59.000 Well, I have a working theory about this.
00:41:01.000 This is why Bernie Sanders has a group that really appreciates him and follows him and why even some people on the right will say, oh, I don't like Bernie Sanders, but I think he really believes what he believes.
00:41:12.000 I think the new era of politics and the bipartisan cartel that has ruined this ruling class essentially series of destructive policies that have borrowed too much money and eroded our freedoms and liberties and grew the fourth branch of government.
00:41:26.000 I think the American people would much prefer someone who's authentic, who says why they believe what they believe, like that conversation you had with the president on trade, even if you might fundamentally disagree with terrorist say, I'll deal with that way more than an establishment Republican in a heartbeat.
00:41:41.000 I made argument after argument, and he tried to dismantle and be like, but wait a minute, Mr. President, this, blah, blah, blah.
00:41:48.000 And in the end, he said, I'm just going to shoot straight with you.
00:41:51.000 I love them.
00:41:53.000 I love trade barriers.
00:41:55.000 I love the fact that we can get things from people if we just use our muscle a little bit.
00:42:02.000 I fundamentally disagree, but I hung up the phone going, at least he told me the truth.
00:42:08.000 He was not pandering to me.
00:42:08.000 Yes.
00:42:10.000 Well, and that's clarity over agreement.
00:42:12.000 Yes.
00:42:14.000 Or the false agreement that the bipartisan coalition that has really, like I said, ruined our country in so many ways, not completely, but I find the American people have this yearning and this interest, especially young people, for authenticity in our candidates, and that's been deteriorating.
00:42:32.000 So I have a question for you.
00:42:35.000 In 10 years, do you think America will be more or less socialist?
00:42:40.000 I ask this question of everybody, by the way.
00:42:43.000 Here we go.
00:42:44.000 Okay, so.
00:42:45.000 Can I answer with a caveat?
00:42:47.000 Of course.
00:42:49.000 If we continue the spending, and if we continue the erosion of who we are and the truth, we will be much more socialist.
00:43:06.000 If we have this real collapse, an actual depression, people who right now say, I am absolutely against socialism, they will want it to be able to weather that storm.
00:43:19.000 That's great.
00:43:21.000 And I'm afraid that we're on that track.
00:43:23.000 However, I've been really heartened.
00:43:28.000 I mean, Charlie, I don't think you know the impact.
00:43:32.000 You say, oh, Claire, you made an impact on my life.
00:43:35.000 Do you realize the impact you're having on the country?
00:43:39.000 I don't.
00:43:40.000 I mean, your organization didn't exist five years ago.
00:43:44.000 It didn't exist.
00:43:46.000 Tonight I'm talking to 5,000 people, and in this place, it paid to come across the country.
00:43:54.000 I was on a plane with all kinds of 18 to 24-year-olds yesterday, and I realized the people you have.
00:44:04.000 You remember when I did the thing in Washington, D.C. and Restoring Honor?
00:44:08.000 I do.
00:44:09.000 Right on the Washington Monument.
00:44:10.000 Right.
00:44:11.000 And I said, that day, somewhere in this crowd, there is maybe he's seven, maybe he's 15.
00:44:19.000 I saw that speech.
00:44:21.000 Somewhere in this crowd is the next George Washington that will feel it right now.
00:44:27.000 And I am so overwhelmed with the people that I have met from your organization and the people who are coming.
00:44:35.000 You're raising the next generation.
00:44:38.000 You are you and your organization really responsible for what I think will be the next great generation, but also some real sucky ones are going to come out of this group, too.
00:44:55.000 I want to tell you something that Charlie and I spoke about.
00:45:02.000 I have been saying for a while now, because I've been tracking this since really 2004, 2005.
00:45:11.000 I've been tracking this slide into Marxism and communism, socialism, radicalism.
00:45:20.000 And I studied revolution all over the world to see how does it happen.
00:45:28.000 And play cut 353.
00:45:32.000 This is May of 2024.
00:45:35.000 Listen to this.
00:45:36.000 You and I both know, and I hate to even address stuff like this, but you and I both know there are those people, and I don't know who they are, and I don't know how many there are, but there are those people that hate Donald Trump so much because they will destroy, because he will destroy their plans for a new world order.
00:45:57.000 They will, they would at least consider an actual assassination if this doesn't work.
00:46:06.000 And that's terrifying.
00:46:08.000 This is something that I had been saying for a while, that we were going to go into a period of assassination.
00:46:16.000 When I talked about assassinating the president or attempted assassination of the president, I was always very hesitant because you just always want to be very, very careful on what you say about a president or a candidate.
00:46:32.000 But I knew they were coming because that's what happened in the 1960s and everything had been repeated.
00:46:38.000 And Charlie and I, on one day, maybe 2018 or 2019, I can't remember, he said, what's coming next?
00:46:46.000 And we were on this balcony in Miami, and it was just the two of us, and we had a really amazing conversation about what our responsibilities were and what we had to look out for.
00:46:58.000 And he said, what is coming next?
00:47:00.000 And I said, Charlie assassinations.
00:47:02.000 And he said, how do you see that?
00:47:04.000 And I said, well, Donald Trump is probably the biggest target.
00:47:08.000 But I don't know.
00:47:09.000 I don't know.
00:47:09.000 I mean, you know, last time in the 60s, it was Malcolm X, it was RFK, and it was MLK.
00:47:17.000 And there were three of them.
00:47:18.000 And with an exception of RFK, they were just, they were people that were, you know, in the arena, if you will.
00:47:29.000 And so Charlie and I talked about, you know, what do we, what do we do if that starts happening?
00:47:35.000 And that's why I am so happy to see the way people that knew Charlie, loved Charlie, worked with Charlie, were part of TPUSA, were just fans of Charlie.
00:47:48.000 I think everybody felt like they knew him because he was so personal, but the way everybody is reacting.
00:47:54.000 I wanted to play something that I have not even heard yet myself.
00:48:01.000 This is something that was written by David Osmond because I knew these times were coming.
00:48:10.000 And probably 2018 is when this song was first written for these days.
00:48:18.000 And here we are.
00:48:19.000 And last night, my daughter, Cheyenne, who was about 10 feet away from the tent in Utah last week, thank God she turned her head and turned around because she was hearing people screaming at Charlie.
00:48:38.000 And she thought, what are these idiots saying?
00:48:42.000 And she turned around, and that's when she said she heard what she thought was a firecracker.
00:48:47.000 And by the time she turned back to look at Charlie, she was pushed to the ground, so she didn't, thank God, see it firsthand.
00:48:57.000 Last night, she and David Osmond went into the studio to record this in honor of Charlie Kirk.
00:49:37.000 But I know we won't be really free if we don't stay united.
00:49:52.000 We will fall for anything.
00:49:56.000 It's true.
00:49:58.000 So I have decided I will stand for you and I will make you stand.
00:50:10.000 I will raise my voice.
00:50:13.000 I will hold your hand.
00:50:15.000 Cause we are one.
00:50:18.000 I will beat my drum.
00:50:20.000 I have made my choice.
00:50:23.000 We will overcome.
00:50:25.000 Cause we are There's no They say the best days are behind so wide.
00:50:55.000 And you will find the times when the best man defend every friend, neighbor, countryman.
00:51:08.000 But now there's nowhere where you can speak your mind.
00:51:15.000 But I will, I will make a stand.
00:51:20.000 I will raise my voice.
00:51:23.000 I will hold your hand.
00:51:25.000 Cause we are one.
00:51:28.000 I will beat my drum.
00:51:30.000 I have made my choice.
00:51:33.000 We will overcome.
00:51:35.000 Cause we are one.
00:51:38.000 Times may change, but truth remains.
00:51:43.000 We won't be silenced, won't be changed.
00:51:47.000 Cause injustice anywhere.
00:51:52.000 Threats just everywhere.
00:51:58.000 I will make a stand.
00:52:00.000 I will raise my voice.
00:52:03.000 I will hold your hand.
00:52:05.000 Cause we are one.
00:52:08.000 I will beat my drum.
00:52:10.000 I have made my choice.
00:52:13.000 We will overcome.
00:52:15.000 Cause we are one.
00:52:18.000 I will make a stand.
00:52:20.000 I will raise my voice.
00:52:23.000 I will hold your hand.
00:52:25.000 Cause we are one.
00:52:28.000 I will beat my drum.
00:52:30.000 I have made my choice.
00:52:33.000 We will overcome.
00:52:53.000 And that song, I asked David to write that song.
00:53:06.000 I never thought it would be sung by my daughter for Charlie Kirk.
00:53:15.000 It's amazing how the Lord works.
00:53:23.000 That song is so appropriate for Charlie because that's what he was doing.
00:53:31.000 Standing up for your right to speak, standing up for your right to be you, standing shoulder to shoulder and being united.
00:53:40.000 And I think that's why this is taking America and the world by storm.
00:53:47.000 I think it's why we are uniting with people in South Korea and England and Kentucky and Tennessee and even California and New York.
00:54:01.000 Because there's some basic principles and some basic truths that Charlie stood for.
00:54:06.000 And the Lord is bringing us back to those.
00:54:10.000 Today, I'm going to try to say this without tearing up.
00:54:14.000 I spent my first day in church in many years.
00:54:18.000 So tomorrow morning is my first time to go to church in many years.
00:54:21.000 We went to church today.
00:54:23.000 It was the first time in 20 years, the first time for our children.
00:54:28.000 I don't come from any kind of money.
00:54:31.000 And I've never owned a suit before.
00:54:34.000 David went to church for their first time in a really long time.
00:54:38.000 And it was so powerful.
00:54:41.000 So many people.
00:54:42.000 It was beautiful.
00:54:43.000 Beautiful service.
00:54:45.000 And I think we're going to keep going.
00:54:50.000 I didn't know Charlie Kirk never met that guy before in my life.
00:54:56.000 And something else that I've never done before in my life is believe in God.
00:55:04.000 I'm going to wear this suit to church.
00:55:06.000 I'm going to go to church.
00:55:10.000 I'm going to try to be a better father, husband, and leader for my family.
00:55:21.000 But what happened to Charlie Kirk made me angry and sad all at the same time.
00:55:26.000 But at that time, it made me feel like I was missing something that I never realized I was missing.
00:55:35.000 We are raising three boys that will one day be men.
00:55:40.000 And we want those boys to be as strong in their convictions as Charlie Kirk was.
00:55:46.000 You don't think it's crazy to get in church?
00:55:50.000 Here's the line for the second service.
00:55:52.000 And there's never a line.
00:55:53.000 By the way, there's never a line.
00:55:55.000 Oh, man, thank you.
00:56:02.000 So if you are someone also that went to church for the first time ever or for the first time in a very long time today, I am with you and I'm so proud of you for being bold enough to go do that or to just take a stance and say, this is wrong.
00:56:26.000 It has been an exhausting day.
00:56:28.000 We got here about 4:30 in the morning to do my national radio program.
00:56:32.000 I have had bomb threats before.
00:56:34.000 We've had death threats before, but I've never actually had to shut down my national radio show and evacuate the studio during a bomb threat.
00:56:41.000 That was, that happened, well, I don't even know, two hours ago.
00:56:45.000 We're now filling in for Charlie Kirk.
00:56:49.000 And I'm going to see Erica here for the first time.
00:56:53.000 And I don't know.
00:56:58.000 I mean, that might not be good for her to see me because I'm going to be a soppy mess.
00:57:02.000 I've had.
00:57:02.000 You're surely going to embarrass yourself.
00:57:04.000 I am.
00:57:05.000 But my wife and I, my wife is just obsessed. 1.00
00:57:09.000 She can't stop watching the kids and everything.
00:57:11.000 And just, she's, I can't watch it.
00:57:13.000 I can't watch it.
00:57:14.000 I'm having a hard time looking over in this corner because Erica did her speech right there last week.
00:57:23.000 Anyway, Anna Paulina Luna is here.
00:57:27.000 Hello, Anna.
00:57:28.000 How are you?
00:57:29.000 Hi, Glenn.
00:57:33.000 You were a dear, dear friend of Charlie Kirk's.
00:57:37.000 How are you holding up?
00:57:40.000 I don't think anyone can ever anticipate something like this happening.
00:57:44.000 But what I can tell you is Charlie would not want us to throw in the towel.
00:57:49.000 And so I know that right now everyone in the country, for good reason, is still kind of grappling at what happened.
00:57:56.000 But what I am happy to see is the overwhelming support, not just in voter registration, but the amount of young people, especially over 30,000 requests for college campuses.
00:58:07.000 No, no, no.
00:58:08.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:58:09.000 No, don't diminish that.
00:58:11.000 It's now 56,000 chapters that have been requested to be open.
00:58:18.000 Not new members, 56,000 chapters.
00:58:22.000 That's awesome.
00:58:22.000 That's remarkable.
00:58:24.000 It is.
00:58:24.000 And I know that in the end, no matter what, Charlie really did win because even half of that number would make an incredible difference on these college campuses.
00:58:34.000 And just a little bit, I guess, Glenn, of how I initially found Turning Point.
00:58:38.000 This was a little quantum breadcrumb, right?
00:58:39.000 Like everyone, at some point in your life, you're going to see these little kind of God winks that will pop up and let you know that you're on your right path.
00:58:45.000 But I remember being in my finals week when I was getting ready to graduate from college at University of West Florida.
00:58:51.000 And I saw these two girls and they were tabling and they had these pins that said big government sucks. 1.00
00:58:56.000 And I remember going into the library and grabbing this pin.
00:58:59.000 I was like, you know, that's pretty cool.
00:59:00.000 I'd even think, you know, that later on, fast forward, you know, a year later, that I'd be working with Charlie in that turning point.
00:59:08.000 But what I will tell you is that, you know, a lot of people, there needs to be action outside of the legislative and the federal branch.
00:59:16.000 And, you know, what we're finding is that what Charlie was fighting, this indoctrination that was taking place on college campuses, these weren't just, you know, liberal professors from the 60s that had been radicalized, right?
00:59:28.000 Like this is actually a foreign government-funded operation.
00:59:32.000 And a lot of these left-wing organizations that have been pushing these violent riots, the targeted campaigns, a lot of the people that have associations with these groups that are calling for assassinations of the president, of conservative commentators, and even of Charlie's family are tied to these organizations.
00:59:51.000 And I guess what I'd like to share today is: so, you know, Glenn, that we were on the show talking about Neville Singh, how he was fighting the party of socialism and liberation, code painting, a lot of the stuff.
01:00:02.000 Comer signed on a letter to the U.S. Treasury to freeze all of his assets.
01:00:06.000 And I just met with Judge Janine, and he's guilty of a FARA violation.
01:00:10.000 I think the Department of Justice is going to be charging him with that.
01:00:12.000 So, you know, miracle.
01:00:16.000 Miracle of miracles.
01:00:17.000 Yeah, we were just talking about this new George Soros information that Ryan Morrow has just released.
01:00:24.000 Is it one o'clock Eastern yet?
01:00:27.000 And it, I mean, you're going to be able to get George Soros on RICO charges, something I've been asking for for 15 years, and it's happening.
01:00:36.000 I think, you know, there's just no better name to name Charlie's movie than Turning Point.
01:00:43.000 I mean, we are truly at a turning point, and I couldn't be happier.
01:00:48.000 I'm glad that everyone is doing what needs to be done because Charlie ultimately was a freedom fighter and everything that he was doing, you know, the GOP failed to recognize.
01:00:58.000 And he was able to transcend politics, but then also to able to share his message.
01:01:02.000 And so, yes, it's been extremely hard.
01:01:04.000 It's been even harder to see some of the commentary coming out of people that I have to walk by every single day up here on the hill and not knowing him and then continuing this rhetoric.
01:01:14.000 But what I will tell you is a lot of them know the truth and that he was not what they painted him out to be.
01:01:20.000 And I am happy that he has the team in place that's standing with Turning Point because I know that this organization is going to continue not just for voter engagement and for youth engagement, but to really help fight back.
01:01:32.000 And I think that there are a lot of very powerful people now that are listening to what needs to be done.
01:01:38.000 And this is the change that we needed.
01:01:40.000 Ana Paulina Luna, thank you so much.
01:01:42.000 You know, the one thing that has come to me in prayer several times is these are not enemies of yours, Glenn.
01:01:48.000 These are not enemies of yours.
01:01:49.000 These are enemies of mine.
01:01:52.000 And he will deal with them.
01:01:53.000 We just have to do the next right thing and stand exactly where he asks us to stand.
01:01:59.000 Anna Paulina Luna, thank you so much.
01:02:01.000 Thanks, Glenn.
01:02:03.000 What I think is really promising about the kind of conservative movement is we don't all have to agree.
01:02:10.000 We don't even all have to agree on tactics at times.
01:02:14.000 It's almost as if the leftist media is attacking Donald Trump for not having everyone be exactly the same in the room, almost as if that's what they're used to.
01:02:23.000 They're used to looking at a press pool where there's no disagreement whatsoever, which is completely antithetical to what journalism and expression should be.
01:02:32.000 And so I actually applaud the fact that not everyone in the room agrees on every issue or sees eye to eye on even the way to go about advancing those issues.
01:02:41.000 That's something that should be celebrated.
01:02:43.000 We have Mike Lee, the senator from Utah on.
01:02:47.000 Mike is a dear, dear friend, and I know is a dear friend of Charlie's and is one of the strongest constitutionalists in our Senate and a man that I hope someday will be appointed as Supreme Court Justice.
01:03:04.000 Welcome, Mike.
01:03:06.000 How are you?
01:03:07.000 Thank you, Glenn.
01:03:07.000 It's good to be with you as always.
01:03:10.000 Can I talk to you just about Utah here for a second?
01:03:12.000 I mean, if this is happening in Utah, this is everywhere.
01:03:16.000 It is, it's shocking to me that it came from Utah, although maybe not so much, seeing the response of UVU and the president of UVU.
01:03:26.000 Do you have any comments on that?
01:03:27.000 All of this is shocking.
01:03:29.000 The events of last week are still echoing through our minds.
01:03:34.000 Many of us feeling that it happens, feeling that the killer was from Utah.
01:03:40.000 There are things within Utah that don't make sense right now.
01:03:44.000 There are, I think one could say that Utah is fairly mismatched in several respects.
01:03:51.000 It's mismatched with its own media institutions, which lean overwhelmingly radically left.
01:03:59.000 It's mismatched with a lot of elements within its educational system, primary and secondary and higher education, where you've got a very conservative populace on the whole.
01:04:10.000 Of course, there are exceptions everywhere.
01:04:13.000 But these institutions in education and in the medium stand in stark contrast.
01:04:21.000 It's almost like we've got the media of Mother Jones in a state that's much more in line with National Review or Fox News or something else like that.
01:04:32.000 And so that really is creating some turmoil within the state and some disagreements and cognitive dissonance at times on the part of the left, which still refuses to acknowledge some of the problems that we're facing.
01:04:46.000 And it's deeply concerning.
01:04:48.000 Mike, let me switch.
01:04:51.000 And one of the reasons why I'm so glad that you are in the Senate and beg you to stay every time election comes up.
01:04:58.000 Please, Mike, please run again.
01:05:00.000 Is I am afraid that, and I'm already seeing signs of it, that there are those that like big government who are also conservative or say they are conservative, but they're big government.
01:05:13.000 And I'm so afraid of a Patriot Act coming out of this.
01:05:17.000 And there was something put up on change, what is it, change.org.
01:05:21.000 And I read through it.
01:05:23.000 It was about a new Smith-Munt Act. 0.62
01:05:26.000 And it was honestly, it was terrifying the way it was written and got a lot of likes.
01:05:31.000 A lot of people are saying, yeah, that's what we got to do.
01:05:33.000 And the Smith, can you explain the Smith-Munt Act on what it did?
01:05:40.000 It actually stems back from World War I and World War II, but what it was keeping at bay and then why it was repealed in 2011.
01:05:49.000 Yeah, so it's interesting how this has unfolded.
01:05:53.000 During the Cold War era in particular, as you point out, this all started in World War I. I think it grew to much bigger size during World War II and in the aftermath and the Cold War.
01:06:05.000 But the U.S. established a fairly sophisticated propaganda system for use overseas or use in other countries to deliver the messages we wanted consistent with America's interests abroad.
01:06:20.000 The Smith-Munt Act, among other things, prohibited the U.S. government from using that same propaganda machine for domestic political propaganda.
01:06:29.000 In other words, it's fine for us to use this in our foreign adversary nations or direct it to them. 0.96
01:06:35.000 Don't use it on our own citizens because big government already does enough to influence what we do.
01:06:42.000 It tells us what we do, are supposed to do at every turn.
01:06:45.000 We don't also need our government telling us what to think.
01:06:48.000 So that's why Smith Month was adopted.
01:06:52.000 Hang on, I think it repeals.
01:06:54.000 I think it's really important.
01:06:55.000 Before you move on to the repeal, I think it's really important.
01:06:57.000 That happened in 1946, but it really stems from World War I. The I Want You poster was not a Smith, I mean, not a Creole creation. 0.91
01:07:09.000 However, the Creole operatives, they were the ones in the government that put that in every post office and every, you know, every theater everywhere.
01:07:18.000 They did all these kinds of things to get Americans hyped into World War I. When World War I ended, they felt betrayed by their own government.
01:07:27.000 They were like, you lied to us about all of this stuff.
01:07:31.000 And they realized propaganda was being used.
01:07:33.000 That's why we were so isolationist up until 1941 when they brought it home to us.
01:07:42.000 And we were very isolationist because we felt our government lied to us because of this propaganda.
01:07:47.000 So as we're turning on propaganda overseas for the Russians and the voice of America, the Democrats were the ones who led this, said, you cannot use any of this propaganda on the American people.
01:08:03.000 We signed it in.
01:08:04.000 And then 2011, what happened?
01:08:07.000 Well, as part of the Defense Authorization Act during the Obama administration, the Senate, this piece in there didn't get much attention at the time.
01:08:18.000 I voted against it, of course, but that undid it.
01:08:23.000 Nobody really offered much of a defense as to why it needed to happen.
01:08:29.000 And they hoped that it would go through largely unseen, largely undiscussed.
01:08:34.000 And it did.
01:08:36.000 And it's time to bring it back.
01:08:38.000 It's time to bring back the prohibition.
01:08:40.000 Look, there's no good reason in a free society like ours for our government to be manipulating its own people.
01:08:49.000 And that's why I've introduced a bill to bring back this prohibition in Smith Monk.
01:08:54.000 And in honor of our friend who lost his life a week ago, I'm naming it the Charlie Kirk Act.
01:09:02.000 Charlie was a big fan of limited government, was a deep skeptic of the brooding, omnipresent government that we often face today, and would have been thrilled to be honored by a measure to bring back Smith Monk bearing his name.
01:09:21.000 And we've got to get this passed.
01:09:23.000 Yeah, this is so important.
01:09:24.000 I mean, you saw it firsthand.
01:09:26.000 If you were, you know, if you were alive during COVID, you know the propaganda that was done by our government in league with big pharmaceuticals and the media, that was all propaganda, and they could get away with it because the Smith Monk Act had been repealed.
01:09:48.000 All of the stuff that you have gone through with propaganda where they are setting up truth squads where the government will say what's true and what's not.
01:09:59.000 All of that happened because of the repeal of this act in 2011.
01:10:03.000 You want to stop it.
01:10:04.000 You have to put that back in.
01:10:06.000 And he is calling it the Charlie Kirk Act.
01:10:09.000 And when did you introduce or when will you introduce this?
01:10:12.000 We introduced it this week.
01:10:14.000 I believe it was yesterday that it was formally introduced, may have been the day before.
01:10:19.000 But it's time for it to happen.
01:10:21.000 Look, I have yet to hear a really good, effective defense of the repeal of Smith Month.
01:10:30.000 Not in 2012 when it was passed as part of the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2013, and not since then.
01:10:41.000 People are actually afraid to defend it, and they're afraid with good reason.
01:10:44.000 Because the American people don't take kindly to that.
01:10:47.000 The American people don't take kindly to their overly paternalistic, sort of dark overlord government, trying to tell them what to think, trying to tell them, here's the official position of the United States government.
01:11:02.000 We're not actually going to tell you that that's what's doing it.
01:11:05.000 We're just going to use the same techniques that we use overseas to try to get what we want in other countries on American voters.
01:11:12.000 That's wrong because you're taking money from the American people.
01:11:15.000 You're spending it to tell them what to think and therefore how to vote.
01:11:18.000 And that's wrong.
01:11:20.000 And I really don't think there are very many Americans.
01:11:23.000 I suspect this one would pull overwhelmingly in favor of restoring the prohibitions of Smith Month.
01:11:30.000 And that's what we've got to do.
01:11:32.000 It's amazing because I've been so concerned that we'll go the wrong direction.
01:11:37.000 We'll do another Patriot Act. 0.88
01:11:39.000 And this one is in the right direction.
01:11:41.000 And it actually handcuffs our government, puts the chains back on the government, which is exactly the opposite of what happened last time with the Patriot Act.
01:11:52.000 We unleashed the government.
01:11:54.000 And this is such a good sign that this is coming.
01:11:57.000 How many sponsors do you have for it, Mike?
01:11:59.000 You know, I'm not sure on that.
01:12:01.000 I should know that, and I don't, but we're gathering sponsors still.
01:12:05.000 We can use all the sponsors we can get.
01:12:07.000 And so if you're listening today and you're not sure whether your senator supports it, ask him or her to get behind it and to co-sponsor the Charlie Kirk Act.
01:12:21.000 Heaven knows we need it.
01:12:22.000 Where do we go from here, Mike?
01:12:24.000 What do you see in the cards?
01:12:26.000 As far as where we go from here, with this particular bill, we've just got to continue to send a message that if we learned anything from COVID, if we learned anything from who knows how many other incidents, how many other episodes or seasons when the government got too involved in telling us things that turned out to be true, that turned out to be very untrue And it turned out to be manipulative.
01:12:51.000 The more we can get that message out and just remind people of the fact that governments are there to do some very simple tasks to protect life, liberty, and property.
01:13:00.000 This government in particular is there to provide for our national defense and perform a handful of other tasks identified in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution.
01:13:10.000 Happy Constitution Day, by the way.
01:13:13.000 The more we can get people focused on that, the greater our chances are going to be to get this thing done.
01:13:18.000 As far as where we go from here more broadly, I do think this is a great opportunity for Americans to refocus on the fact that our government and what it does could never be something that's big enough,
01:13:36.000 that's a significant enough part of people's lives to where they define themselves and their significance in this life according to what does, even to the point where people feel compelled to murder someone who doesn't share their political worldview simply because other people happen to be listening to that person.
01:13:57.000 Part of what was so tragic about this event is it was apparent a week ago.
01:14:05.000 Charlie Kirk wasn't taken down because the shooter didn't like, I don't know, his choice of apparel or what he likes to eat.
01:14:15.000 It was based on his political views.
01:14:17.000 That should by itself be a signal to us that something's gone terribly wrong.
01:14:21.000 This government has gotten way too big.
01:14:23.000 It's gotten way too prominent.
01:14:24.000 We need to bring it back.
01:14:26.000 And it's a good way of wrapping it back into Constitution Day.
01:14:29.000 When we celebrate Constitution Day, we have to remember that the whole point of the Constitution is to restrain government.
01:14:35.000 Laws typically restrain individuals.
01:14:38.000 The Constitution's whole purpose is to restrain government.
01:14:41.000 Every provision in it is there as a restraint on government, and we need to accept it as such.
01:14:45.000 Senator Mike Lee from the great state of Utah, thank you so much for talking to me, Mike.
01:14:49.000 I appreciate it.
01:14:50.000 Thank you so much.
01:14:51.000 On this election, we want to try to lose by less with younger voters, and then we are going to create the most sophisticated, low-propensity, get-out-the-vote turnout machine in modern political history for the right.
01:15:05.000 And here was the theory of the case first on the get-out the vote, which is that we believed that there were millions of people that were Trump supporters that were not Trump voters.
01:15:16.000 So people that would say, yay, Trump, and they would be with them, but they weren't putting a ballot in a box.
01:15:22.000 They weren't casting a vote.
01:15:23.000 And we tested the theory of the case when I started to go to Trump rallies.
01:15:28.000 And I would ask people, and I'd take a lot of selfies.
01:15:31.000 People are super nice and they love the country.
01:15:33.000 And one out of 30 people, I'd say, hey, are you registered to vote?
01:15:36.000 And they'd say, oh, yeah, I think so.
01:15:38.000 Yeah.
01:15:38.000 And I'd get this kind of, you know, half answer.
01:15:41.000 And so I went back to my team.
01:15:43.000 I said, guys, I think there's a lot more in this reservoir than we realize.
01:15:48.000 And so we compared it with the data with the Trump campaign, which we were allowed to do thanks to a FBC ruling back in the spring.
01:15:55.000 And we said, guys, let's beat the left at their own game.
01:15:58.000 Let's engage in early voting, even though it's a flawed system, in a way that has never been done before, because it gives us actually more days to get low-likely voters to go vote.
01:16:08.000 If you have 30 days to do it, you can then get someone who is not as easy to persuade to vote, because then you can get five or six touches on them.
01:16:15.000 So we hired well over 1,000 full-time people.
01:16:18.000 It's the greatest ground force that's ever done.
01:16:20.000 We raised tens of millions of dollars, praise God, from our donors.
01:16:24.000 And we pitched them on this thing, hey, the road to the White House is going to be going through these states.
01:16:28.000 We know that.
01:16:29.000 We're going to need to first register a ton of voters, build relationships in communities, and then drive a turnout machine over a 30-day period to get Donald Trump across the finish line.
01:16:40.000 And the states that we primarily focused on was Arizona, Wisconsin.
01:16:44.000 We had some work, of course, in Pennsylvania, in Georgia, but really Arizona, Wisconsin.
01:16:49.000 And in Wisconsin, I can tell you that if it wasn't for our effort, Donald Trump would have fallen short.
01:16:54.000 We chased in excess of over 70,000 low-propensity voters in Wisconsin.
01:16:58.000 Donald Trump won by 28,000 votes.
01:17:01.000 Here in Arizona, as we are speaking, we still have 850,000 votes left to count.
01:17:06.000 We like to take at least 90 days to count our ballots here.
01:17:10.000 It's a joke.
01:17:11.000 And Kerry Lake is only down 40,000.
01:17:14.000 It's really something else.
01:17:15.000 I know it is.
01:17:15.000 I know it is.
01:17:17.000 By St. Patrick's Day, we'll find out who won the Senate race.
01:17:19.000 But Kerry Lake is down 44,000 votes here in Arizona. 1.00
01:17:24.000 And she might fall 10,000 votes short or win by 10,000 votes.
01:17:28.000 But thanks to our effort and the team, we closed an eight-point polling gap for Kerry Lake.
01:17:35.000 And so, look, basically what we did is we took this movement that Donald Trump created that Donald Trump led, and we added machinery to the movement.
01:17:43.000 And we were able to successfully turn Trump supporters into Trump voters.
01:17:49.000 My name is Glenn Beck.
01:17:50.000 It has been a true honor to fill in for Charlie today.
01:17:54.000 And we're going to be kind of hanging around for a few days until Sunday.
01:17:59.000 But the feeling here is godly, very godly.
01:18:06.000 Tyler Boyer's with us.
01:18:08.000 He is the CEO, COO, COO of Turning Point Action.
01:18:13.000 We just played a clip of Charlie and I talking right after the election last time.
01:18:18.000 And I've talked to people who said, what you guys have planned for the midterms and even looking forward to 2028 is awesome, going to make it look like child's play, what happened last time.
01:18:30.000 Are you concerned at all?
01:18:33.000 You know, Glenn, thank you for that.
01:18:36.000 I mean, obviously, this has been a lot to process this whole last week.
01:18:41.000 You know, I'm the COO because Charlie's the CEO.
01:18:44.000 So losing, you know, the head of the household here has been tougher, I think, for all of us.
01:18:52.000 But the beautiful part about what we've done and we've been doing is we've been putting our pen to paper this entire time, really focused on what the plan is, like you mentioned, focused on 2028 and working our way backwards from that, looking at 2032 and working our way backwards.
01:19:09.000 And when you do it, when you take that process, I mean, that's the way the left does it.
01:19:13.000 When you take that process, you can actually formulate a plan pretty quickly.
01:19:17.000 And that's what we've done with our Chase the Vote initiative.
01:19:19.000 You know, the really great thing is Charlie was not a guy, you weren't joining because you were a fan of him.
01:19:25.000 I mean, he was teaching principles.
01:19:27.000 So the base is principle-based.
01:19:30.000 That's right.
01:19:31.000 And that's really a healthy thing.
01:19:34.000 Yeah, I mean, this is, that's at the core of the elections.
01:19:37.000 2028 in particular is really focused on the grassroots.
01:19:43.000 Our number one culture point that we have at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action is what we call grassroots humility.
01:19:49.000 If you focus on the grassroots, then you get candidates that the grassroots wants to work for.
01:19:55.000 And then therefore it kind of builds the program for you.
01:19:58.000 And that's really the beauty of Turning Point and where we felt like we had to step up really coming out of the 2022 election when we realized that everybody was not being honest at what I call the Republican establishment, the core at the, you know.
01:20:13.000 I like to call them the evil empire.
01:20:15.000 The national Republican apparatus.
01:20:17.000 The evil empire, whatever you want to call them.
01:20:17.000 Yeah.
01:20:19.000 But the apparatus itself was kind of lying to people and saying, hey, we've got this handle.
01:20:23.000 We've got this handle.
01:20:23.000 We can do this.
01:20:24.000 We can do this.
01:20:25.000 Red wave, red wave.
01:20:26.000 And they didn't show up with anybody.
01:20:28.000 And so we knew, and this is the beauty of Charlie and what we had done was we had seen the culmination of how many people kind of became disciples at Turning Point.
01:20:38.000 And we knew that we could take that and we had to take that talent and convert it into action.
01:20:44.000 And so that's what really built the C4 plan heading into 2024.
01:20:47.000 You know, it's really interesting thinking about the coverage leading up to the election.
01:20:52.000 Turning point, I think, was really put on the line by the coverage.
01:20:56.000 And I think this was intentional.
01:20:57.000 There was a big belief that if Trump lost, if this didn't turn out the right way, there was someone to point blame at.
01:21:05.000 And it was you and Charlie.
01:21:07.000 It was Turning Point.
01:21:08.000 That was the big setup beforehand.
01:21:10.000 Oh, you're going to put Charlie Kirk ahead of your turnout operation?
01:21:15.000 I mean, was there a moment where you were like, this is really a moment that's going to make or break not only the country, but also this organization?
01:21:22.000 The beautiful part about being right next to Charlie Kirk for as many years as I've been is that it's a pressure cooker, unlike anything else, even with the small stuff in the early days, is that we live for this pressure.
01:21:36.000 I mean, that's at the end of the day.
01:21:38.000 You talk about Super Bowls, the Super Bowls.
01:21:41.000 That's what you have to, you know, that's what you want.
01:21:43.000 You want the coverage.
01:21:44.000 You want to invite in all of that.
01:21:46.000 So I think the real beauty in this story from this last election cycle, and I'm so glad everything worked out the way it did, not knowing at the time that it was going to be the last time that we would run a race together, right?
01:21:59.000 Like do the work because that wasn't the plan.
01:22:03.000 That was never the anticipated outcome here.
01:22:07.000 But looking back, it's now, it's been really hard thinking about all this last week was this is, I value that and those individual experiences where it was tough, where people did put all that pressure on us.
01:22:20.000 I wouldn't have it any other way.
01:22:22.000 I really would not have it any other way at all because, excuse me, Because had it not been positioned that way, I don't know if the celebration of what we were able to accomplish for this last election would feel the same.
01:22:43.000 And what that would lead into for this next election cycle in the future, now what the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be.
01:22:48.000 And so that's what we have to live up to.
01:22:50.000 That's what we have to do.
01:22:52.000 We are your friends because we're your friends, but we also believe in your mission.
01:22:57.000 And we know what you guys are doing.
01:23:00.000 We are here for you at any time, anything you need.
01:23:05.000 Thank you very much, William.
01:23:06.000 I appreciate that.
01:23:07.000 Things a lot.
01:23:08.000 And we love everybody at Turning Point.