00:01:08.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:14.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:31.000He's the founder of Turning Point USA.
00:01:34.000He is a man that today, when we were just doing a few little things together, but it's awesome to realize that Charlie Kirk cranks out somewhere around 14 podcasts a week, not to mention the fact that he's constantly on the go.
00:01:46.000In fact, when he's done here, he'll be whisked away back home to Turning Point USA in Arizona.
00:04:01.000I've actually done a lot of traveling in the last few weeks, which is a very, you must really hate yourself if you do that.
00:04:07.000You just wear the mask the entire time, and it's not exactly fun.
00:04:10.000But I've been to Michigan, Florida, I was in New York, all across the country.
00:04:15.000I was in D.C. yesterday, in Arizona this morning, and here I am with you.
00:04:18.000I feel that it's more urgent than ever to be able to get truth out in front of people.
00:04:24.000And I think that right now, we as a country are seeing what happens when good people decide to do nothing and when certain good people, such as yourself, Jack, and your congregation, start to stand up for truth.
00:04:40.000So, look, I'm processing this in real time, like all of you, and I'm starting to realize a couple things.
00:04:53.000The church is the key to the moral order of a civil society.
00:04:57.000And there's a reason why they want to keep the churches closed.
00:05:00.000There's a reason why they don't want you to be able to congregate.
00:05:04.000It's because as soon as all of you start to attend and you listen to the greatest, most important book ever to exist in the history of the world, when you start to understand the teachings of Jesus Christ, when you start to understand that our rights are natural that come from God, not from government, all of a sudden Gavin Newsom means a lot less in your world.
00:05:26.000And maybe it also opens and liberates conversation.
00:05:31.000Maybe all of a sudden you realize that it's going to be free people in a free society that are going to come across to the best solutions, not these bureaucratic, top-down orders that have just so much harm and pain and suffering on people across the country that I've seen, Jack.
00:05:48.000And I'll tell you this: that as the churches start to reopen, I'm starting to see it.
00:05:52.000Pastors are starting to follow because it takes leaders like Jack to pay the price.
00:05:57.000And he goes for it, and then people start to follow.
00:06:00.000And we're starting to see, in my opinion, a tonal shift in our country in the last couple weeks.
00:06:08.000Even in the last couple days, I can feel it.
00:06:10.000All of a sudden, people are, and I felt the Holy Spirit here tonight.
00:06:14.000Where all of a sudden, look, the forces of darkness are going to strike their hardest right before truth is really going to spread and win.
00:06:23.000That is when the forces of darkness are going to do their full frontal offensive.
00:06:26.000And boy, have we seen that in the last couple weeks and the last couple months.
00:06:30.000And what I'm telling you, I am bringing you, I believe, very good news that we are close to something that is so righteous and good and true.
00:06:39.000I think we're going to have a revival in our country, the likes of which we have never come to.
00:06:50.000You made mention of the fact, which was fantastic.
00:06:52.000That the rioting, the pillaging, the protesting that's going on in the streets, and the correlation between that and the churches being sequestered.
00:07:00.000Yeah, I mean, it's a really puzzling thing for me why some people are confused about this.
00:07:05.000They say, why is it that so many people are angry and looking for meaning?
00:07:10.000I say, well, it's because you closed the churches down, man.
00:07:13.000I mean, church is more than just flipping on your TV at 10.30 in your pajamas in the living room.
00:07:21.000Church is the ecclesia, the gathering of believers.
00:07:24.000It's you turning to your friend and saying, how are you doing?
00:07:27.000And they say, honestly, I'm not doing well.
00:07:30.000I need you, and I need that message today.
00:07:32.000And what we have been led to believe is now church is nothing more than a digital consumption exercise where church is a 24-7, 365 institution where it's brothers helping believers, helping sisters, helping people in need.
00:08:07.000So I think to myself, my goodness, how many millions of lost souls out there would have become Bible-believing Christians on Easter Sunday if the churches would have remained open?
00:08:15.000How many people would have dropped down their idolatry of fake witness and said, Jesus, come into my life.
00:08:21.000And yet, the secular humanist status said, Keep your church closed because I told you so.
00:08:26.000And then all of a sudden, we wonder why in late May we see a destruction of civil society because, oh my gosh, we forgot that it was the church that built civil society.
00:08:36.000And when civil society starts to crumble and you don't have the singular thing that founded that very civil society, it should be a rather logical thing.
00:08:43.000Maybe you should open the institution that gives people meaning and gives them an understanding of what responsibility is and a connection to the Almighty and the sacraments of communion.
00:08:54.000And so there's a direct connection there.
00:09:06.000They want white fragility to become the Bible.
00:09:09.000They want the 1619 project to be more well-versed in the teachings of Matthew.
00:09:13.000And if you think I'm joking, just step into a public school in LA Unified School District and you'll see exactly what I mean.
00:09:20.000They know that if they can hurt the church, if they can weaken the church, then all of a sudden they will replace man's search for meaning with government becoming that deity, with Nicole Hannah Jones from the New York Times becoming the next philosophical leader where she just spouts garbage and nonsense professionally every single day.
00:09:43.000And so we have to understand very clearly, and you've done such a great job of this, Jack, and I'm inspired by you, and you're a hero for this, which is we are not going to allow tyranny in our country to exist any longer, whether it be Gavin Newsom, whether it be the little micro-tyranny.
00:10:02.000And here's a really important point: we should protest and recall Gavin Newsome.
00:10:33.000It's like the only important thing, right?
00:10:37.000I mean, it's the idea of essential is somehow there's a hierarchy of something more important than salvation.
00:10:45.000And so, look, Gavin Newsom, he says, well, I might arrest people.
00:10:48.000I said, well, you'll be the first Christian to pay a price for what is good and what is right and what is true.
00:10:52.000And so if they come arrest Jack, come arrest me alongside of Jack, because I'll tell you what, about time Christians start standing for something in the temple.
00:10:59.000And I, and here's the one thing: make no mistake, this is a social conditioning exercise where they're trying to see how far they can push us, right?
00:11:12.000They're trying to see, oh, wow, the Christians won't speak if we take Easter and Palm Sunday from them.
00:11:16.000They won't speak out if we take Pentecost from them.
00:11:18.000They won't speak out if month after month after month all of a sudden the physical institution of the church and the gathering, the ecclesia of believers mean nothing.
00:11:24.000But the moment that someone like Jack Hibbs or Rob LaCoy says, oh, no, come arrest us, they're like, oh, yeah, just kidding, sorry.
00:11:31.000And by the way, they might storm through this right now like Mao's Red Guard with their little red book and the Praetorian Guard.
00:11:40.000Part of the doctrine of civil disobedience is we will pay the price, but you are going to have a couple thousand very angry local people that are not going to like you.
00:12:31.000And I say, well, first of all, you probably won't, probably.
00:12:35.000But even if you do, if you fight for what is right and for what is good and for what is true, isn't that what we are called to do every single day?
00:12:42.000And so, and what the great irony of this entire thing, and it kind of reminds me of some of the people in the Republican Party where I've tried to find to see if they have a spine, and I can't quite figure out if they do or not.
00:12:54.000Which is the great irony, and I'll do the connection in a second, is that this church has never flourished like it has now.
00:13:00.000It has ever grown because people right now in times of chaos are looking for order.
00:13:07.000Churches that actually stand have record attendance, record tithing, record conversions, record salvation, record amounts of people that are looking for that meaning.
00:13:17.000And so I'll tell you what, as Ernest Hemingway said, this is going to happen gradually than suddenly.
00:13:23.000The bad guys are going to be on the run very quickly as soon as reasonable and decent people stop being the silent majority and the vocal majority.
00:13:32.000It's going to happen very, very quickly.
00:13:39.000Charlie, we've got radical civil unrest in many of the West Coast cities, the key cities.
00:13:47.000Just the other day, Jerry Nadler, when asked about the pillaging and the rioting of Portland, Oregon, Nadler said that Antifa and that action is a myth.
00:14:33.000And so Orwell wrote 1984, and in it, he talks about that even worse than a lie, there's something that can be called doublethink or doublespeak or news speak.
00:16:00.000He was telling us to live lives like whatever's not happening in downtown Seattle and the former country that used to be called Chaz or CHOP or whatever that wonderful experiment was, which really interests me because, you know, I visit college campuses, so you don't have to.
00:17:01.000I knew he was destined for great things.
00:17:04.000And so it was a couple years ago at the University of Minnesota.
00:17:09.000And he said, Charlie, you don't understand.
00:17:11.000Once we get rid of police and private property, that's when human beings can go back to their normative state, the primitive state, and everything will go back into a utopian place.
00:17:22.000And this is an idea that was theorized by the French fool.
00:17:26.000If you want to know where most bad ideas are from, just go to France.
00:17:28.000I mean, my gosh, just Jean-Jacques Rousseau.
00:17:32.000I mean, the guy was a hypocritical, privileged brat who basically, we got a lot of our bad ideas in the West from him.
00:17:40.000But he argued very, very bluntly that we should have the primitive over the civilized, the infant over the adult, the passionate lover over the calm spouse.
00:17:49.000I mean, basically, everything your child learns in college can be originated back to this clueless, you know, let's say, let's stop there, a guy from France by Jean-Jacques Rousseau.
00:18:01.000So this idea of we just get rid of, it's society that's the problem.
00:19:29.000When you get rid of police, people still do bad things.
00:19:32.000It's almost as if original sin actually exists in our world and that the Bible is completely correct, that we're broken so unbelievably depraved by nature that we are in need of a savior that only a loving God could deliver to us, that it's actually what is in our book is true and right.
00:19:49.000And so, but this is what's really what we're up against.
00:19:51.000And I want to just frame this for you because you say, who could possibly defund the police?
00:20:07.000What's happening right now, and this is what really frustrates me with a lot of the Republican Party is just how myopic they get in their conversation.
00:20:13.000They're like, well, maybe we can pass a police reform bill.
00:20:19.000We have just introduced a national conversation on human nature.
00:20:23.000And you think this is about police reform?
00:20:26.000This is a beautiful opportunity to be able to defend something that through 5,000 years of history and this incredible book that tells us that is ultimate truth, that human beings are broken by nature.
00:20:37.000And we know this, and the left doesn't believe this.
00:20:39.000They actually are so incredibly confident in their own ubris, in their own philosopher king world.
00:21:15.000So yeah, Jerry, I guess the point was about Jerry Nabler, and that's, I mean, that's to kind of complete the point, was, was this, they truly believe the radical left absolutely and completely believes that society is a mistake, that the systems we have around us are systems of oppression that must be dismantled, undone, and deconstructed because they have the better idea to be implemented, and then we can actually be harmonious people in utopia,
00:21:43.000which literally means nowhere if you look at actually what utopia means.
00:21:53.000I think you just answered this actually, but just to highlight it, do you think there's any correlation to the fact that two of the least churched cities in America happen to be Portland and Seattle?
00:22:07.000Of course, there's almost no presence of church witnesses.
00:22:11.000And it would be nice to hear a Republican say that once, wouldn't it?
00:22:13.000I mean, but look, and I say this is, we have an amazing opportunity to be able to defend right now something that is true.
00:22:22.000And Paul says it, defend whatsoever is true.
00:22:26.000I mean, we are called to Christians to call out things that are not correct, not factual, not true in every single part of our life because everything that you encounter matters.
00:22:39.000We're told that as Christians, anytime that something that gets told that is rooted in a lie, that is a tool used by the evil one to try to deceive us and bring us into confusion and chaos.
00:22:49.000So when people say something like, everything's actually wonderful in Portland, you don't understand.
00:22:54.00056 days of riot and anarchy, this is actually, it's a summer of love, actually, is what it is.
00:23:07.000And so, yes, there's a direct correlation.
00:23:10.000And we have to understand that this country that was founded, it wasn't an accident.
00:23:15.000And that's a really important thing that we have to teach our kids, unlike other kind of civilization toppling and just the constant cycle, if you will.
00:23:28.000We are going to control this piece of land and we're going to put it over with our tradition.
00:23:31.000Our country is so different than that.
00:24:16.000And the Enlightenment understood this.
00:24:18.000And Locke theorized very simply that, yes, we have natural law and from natural law we have natural rights.
00:24:23.000And then they said, well, what if it's a theocracy?
00:24:24.000They said that won't work because then you're a state-run religion actually will make people less likely to go to church.
00:24:29.000So let's have ideas that are actually built upon that of Christianity, the Bible, the greatest book ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:24:36.000And everyone in our population is basically understands it's the moral order, but we want to have a pluralistic society and the freedom of speech because good ideas must be defended, not be just shoved down people's throats.
00:24:47.000Because if we just say this is what it is, people are going to find a way to disconnect from it because that's human nature.
00:24:54.000We know that from basically the problems that the Catholic Church had with trying to have state-run religion.
00:25:00.000The founders didn't want that, but they still wanted a moral order.
00:25:02.000And that's why in our birth certificate, the Declaration of Independence is the laws of nature and nature's God, very explicitly, where it said, you know what, King George, this whole tyranny and autocracy thing, not so fast, my friend.
00:25:14.000We have a better idea from ideas that are derived from the law of Abraham and Moses and the tradition of the Bible that it was fulfilled by the covenant of Jesus Christ.
00:25:21.000We're going to try out freedom of speech, protect our family, rights to privacy, states' rights.
00:25:26.000If we get something wrong, we can course correct it because we don't have to worry about your tyranny, one size fits all centralized control.
00:25:44.000They had very little to no civilization precedent.
00:25:47.000They took this risk and they said, we actually trust our people who were freedom-seeking pilgrims, who brought everything across the Atlantic Ocean.
00:26:36.000I mean, yeah, I want to give credit where credit is due.
00:26:39.000When complete rubbish gets spewed from the paper of record, I want to make sure I get it right, unlike them because they don't get it right.0.99
00:26:47.000So, Nicole Hannah Jones, she is on a pathological campaign to make sure your kids hate America.
00:26:52.000And so, Nicole Hannah Jones, red hair, see her on TV, always talking about how awful white people are and how awful our country is.1.00
00:27:17.000So if you actually look at the founding of our country, 1776, this great leap forward 2,000 years forward, derived, of course, from the teachings of Athens and the combination of Jerusalem, Aristotle, Plato, Descartes, Aquinas, Locke, all the best practices put into one, authored by who?
00:28:32.000Now, mind you, it was probably one of the most perplexing pieces of hypocrisy in history because he himself was a slave owner, but he still was arguing for a moral good societally.
00:28:41.000Failed in the Virginia House eventually.
00:28:45.000We saw in the 1790s almost every single northern state abolished slavery.
00:28:50.000By the time 1807 happened, Thomas Jefferson had his time to shine.
00:28:54.000Thomas Jefferson, third president of the United States of our country, that 20 years, tick, in the Constitution, right?
00:29:00.000They did that as a bargain of the southern states.
00:29:02.000Thomas Jefferson, on the first day he was legally able to abolish the incoming of any new slaves into the United States of America 20 years into our founding.
00:29:10.000That is something we should be proud of.
00:29:13.000We were founded from the moment that we started that said that this was wrong and this is evil.
00:29:18.000Now, mind you, it wasn't a perfect history.
00:29:20.000It went through decades of ups and downs and we went through a bloody civil war.
00:29:23.000But show me another country that sacrificed so much, brother against brother and father against son, to accomplish something that what?
00:29:31.000The churches were screaming in the pews and the pulpits.
00:29:34.000And Thaddeus Stevens was inspired by a pastor to go to Congress and say, Slavery is anti-American.
00:29:44.000We fought this bitter civil war and Abraham Lincoln kept the Republic together on this union-ist idea that I think America's best day can be ahead of us where all men are equal and free.
00:29:56.000Fast forward all the way to Frederick Douglass, where he says that we need to abolish slavery.
00:30:00.000Because I'm so inspired by the Declaration of Independence.
00:30:03.000He was an abolitionist, a black Republican who understood it.
00:30:06.000Go all the way fast forward to the great Martin Luther King Jr., who himself lived a very, let's say, he had questionable moral decisions, but he was arguing for what?
00:30:16.000Because people can act sinfully personally, but argue for something righteously publicly, and they should be remembered for what they did good publicly, not for what they did less than desirably privately.
00:30:28.000People say, well, we got to get rid of all these people, but dare you forget what they sacrificed for our country.
00:30:32.000And Martin Luther King said in that beautiful speech, I come here to cash in the check of the promissory note of the Declaration of Independence.
00:30:42.000He didn't say that this document was racist.
00:30:45.000He didn't say we got to shred it from its roots.
00:30:47.000He says, this document says all men are created equal.
00:30:51.000And I'm telling you, Congress, to pass the Civil Rights Act.
00:30:53.000From that moment that we started this country to the Civil Rights Act of the 1960s, it was a constant theme, a margin of progression to be better.
00:31:01.000And isn't that what we do every single day in our own life to try to be better today than we were yesterday?
00:31:37.000And I was going to say a detox from truth regarding the Teaching of wrong history, teaching of absolute craziness, where now these kids are adults and now they're in Congress or now they're running.
00:31:53.000They're whatever they are and they hate this nation.
00:32:06.000And look, this is going to be a very difficult thing for us to societally unpack as a culture in the next couple of years.
00:32:13.000But we have to admit that we were much more afraid of off losing societal status than our kids possibly being trained to not believe in God and hate America.
00:32:24.000And we sent our kids to these universities for decades, and then they all of a sudden become bitter, resentful activists in the streets.
00:32:39.000And understand, I'm actually very optimistic about this because I think that in some ways I do believe that, well, first of all, we're going to win because we've already won.
00:32:47.000And so it's really, in some ways, the battle was already done by Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.
00:32:52.000So in some ways, all of this is kind of just, let's bring as many people along, let's do the best we can, and all that.
00:32:57.000So I have a cheerfulness to me when I'm able to fight this stuff.
00:33:01.000Do you realize we're up against very bitter, resentful, and arrogant people?
00:33:11.000They're resentful for not very good reason, but they've been taught in gratitude, right?
00:33:16.000So here's the divide that's happened in America right now: is that we have one side of our country that is incredibly angry that they live in America.
00:33:24.000The other side is incredibly thankful that they live in America.
00:33:27.000You see, the Bible in the New Testament talks about this quite a lot.
00:33:31.000And you could cite the scriptures far better than I can, Pastor Jack.
00:33:34.000The importance of gratitude, the importance of saying thanks.
00:33:37.000And I think that we have an entire day that's uniquely American, Thanksgiving, around that idea of saying thanks.
00:33:42.000It's a uniquely Christian thing, actually, when you think about it.
00:33:45.000Because how could an atheist say thanks?
00:34:05.000You're thankful for all these different things.
00:34:07.000I think that gratitude is the fruit that makes all other things taste sweet.
00:34:10.000I think that if you don't have gratitude, especially for a country that you live in, then why wouldn't you rip that country apart and then why wouldn't you destroy it?
00:34:18.000Well, gratitude comes from an understanding of the passage and the journey that your country has had.
00:34:22.000So you remove the history, you by definition, then remove the gratitude.
00:34:25.000And it's very diabolical and incredibly pathological because the people that are purveying it and communicating to our kids, they're actually themselves very, very resentful people.
00:34:33.000You will not find a thankful person teaching gratitude to another person.
00:34:37.000Ingratitude is passed from one ingrateful person to another, almost always, right?
00:34:41.000And so you have an ingrateful person passing upon their ingratitude.
00:34:44.000And this happens because one of the few ways that they can psychologically cope with the nihilism that sets in when you don't believe in an ultimate creator, you don't believe in the type of ecclesia that we're able to gather, the only way you can cope and find meaning is be able to get other people to be miserable alongside you.
00:36:20.000And in fact, we tell them there's something so incredibly awful.
00:36:25.000We teach them, we break them down so much that we wonder why youth suicide is going up so dramatically.
00:36:33.000We wonder why drug usage and social isolation, it's like, well, maybe you shouldn't have spent the first 15 years of that young man's life saying they're the worst thing on the planet.
00:36:42.000Maybe instead you should have said, go pick yourself up, stop acting like a punk, don't swear, stop doing drugs, get up earlier and find some meaning in your life, and that means responsibility.
00:36:52.000And that's how you got to talk to young men because it's different than young women.
00:36:57.000And it's talked about in Proverbs, right?
00:37:01.000And I think there's actually a deeper psychological truth to that, actually, which is if you don't work, you don't find responsibility, you're not going to be able to keep going, right?
00:37:10.000What is the metaphorical truth behind eating?
00:37:12.000It's that I can keep doing what I want to do to the next day, right?
00:37:16.000And so for our crisis with young people, that's happening.
00:37:19.000See, what colleges do and what they should do, but they don't, we'll kind of talk about it.
00:37:23.000What colleges should do, let's start there.
00:37:25.000Colleges should say, my goodness, what an awful, broken, chaotic world that we have.
00:37:31.000I'm going to try to make you stronger so you can endure the suffering better, that you can straighten out your path, that you can have stronger shoulders, that you can bear the burden, and then you'll be more prepared for the forest, for the swamp, for the demons, for the people that will stab you in the back, because you're going to suffer.
00:37:51.000But I'm going to help you make sure that you can endure it a little bit better so your life will be a little less miserable.
00:37:57.000That's basically what we should teach them in college.
00:38:21.000And we wonder why we have an entire generation, mostly, of kids that are afraid to leave their own shadow, are afraid to even have their own meaning.
00:38:31.000It's because we have infantilized these children at the most important time of their life when we're supposed to be able to say, you're not the most important thing in the world.
00:38:43.000You're actually a coward for looking at that stuff on your phone at 2 a.m.
00:38:46.000You're actually not doing something heroic by drinking more than the friend next to you.
00:38:52.000No one cares how many social media likes that you have.
00:38:55.000How about you go be loyal to a singular human being, get married, find a job, act with meaning, have a bunch of kids, and then go to church.
00:39:03.000That's going to make your life better, not limitlessly indulging in the next chemical substance that might be on the table.
00:39:35.000There's a lot that can go on in your life that doesn't lead to suicide, but when you lose hope, and hope is very, very, I believe, inseparably connected to purpose.
00:39:44.000When you have hopelessness, you're done.
00:39:48.000And that means you're done by either the rope or a gun.
00:40:18.000Somebody could lose hope in a matter of moment because their dreams were dashed and the experiment blew up and it didn't work.
00:40:23.000Or they lost all their money in the stock market in five seconds.
00:40:26.000And they lose hope and they bite a bullet.
00:40:29.000But the same terminus the enemy targets for any young man or young woman who sits in their house and rots without a purpose, Satan just licks his chops.
00:40:42.000Well, yeah, and I want to, I've lost dear friends to suicide.
00:40:45.000A friend of mine from high school, Eddie, committed suicide.
00:40:47.000It's one of the hardest things that I had to process.
00:40:49.000And for those of you that lost trends to suicide, it really does a torturous thing to the people around it.
00:40:56.000And a lot of prayer, a lot of reflection, and still I struggle with it because, my goodness, you know, what were the steps that were taken there?
00:41:29.000And Dennis Prager talks about it a lot, and he's phenomenal, where if you actually teach people, as in the halls of Harvard, it's this beautiful quote, and they're going to remove it, I'm sure, because it makes far too much sense.
00:41:40.000It says, the law are the wise restraints that keep men free.
00:41:45.000And what that really is saying, that if you do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it, you're actually going to be a slave to whatever those things are.
00:41:54.000And when Christ said, we are going to liberate you from sin, he literally means that when you are free from the addiction and free from the sinful pattern and behavior that you have, but much more materially, as we have this in our country about suicide and self-worth, I think that in a lot of different ways, we have not been as blunt and as honest as we should about the reality of the world that we live in.
00:42:17.000I think that we try to tell young people that we somehow can create a better, more comfortable world for you if we are just able to shut up a couple more voices and do all this, when we really should be talking about creating stronger, tougher people that can endure the incredible persecution and suffering that is inevitable in life, because life is absolutely a tragic exercise in suffering.
00:42:39.000I mean, the Bible tells us, any sort of life experience tells us, we know that.
00:42:44.000And so once you are able to communicate that clearly And young people say, wow, that sounds awful.
00:42:51.000Here's how you can actually get through it.
00:42:53.000And that's where we get this wrong completely and totally, where the conversation, when it comes around meaning, what is going to keep you going from one day to the other, where you're not in your pajamas at 2 o'clock on the next day, is actually a doctrine of connectedness.
00:43:06.000And we don't talk about this, where a lot of times people need to know that other people are relying on you.
00:43:11.000And that's the idea of responsibility, right?
00:43:14.000Is that, of course, you have a responsibility for yourself, but why be responsible for yourself?
00:43:18.000It's because another person is going to want to make sure they see you at 7 a.m. because you actually have something to offer this bitter and broken world, that you actually might have something deep within the bowels of your depraved existence that matters.
00:43:32.000That you might have something that you can contribute for the betterment of the kingdom.
00:43:36.000And when I talk about responsibility to young men and young people, they light up.
00:43:40.000They say, oh, my goodness, that's really something.
00:44:42.000And if just one person needs to hear that today, then this visit was worth it.
00:44:48.000So, Charlie, I want to change it up in a strange way to come into the conversation.
00:44:53.000So, why is it that the physicians I know, physicians that attend this church, they tell me, Jack, the biggest thing to fear out there right now, medically, outside of cancers and outside of other things, diabetes and all, the biggest thing to fear out there right now, and I'm sorry, I can't say the name of the, but there's two flus that are out there that's been out there for a long time.
00:45:17.000There's two flus running around that are very fatal, very dangerous, but COVID is way down on the list.
00:45:24.000But you wouldn't get that by the media, you wouldn't get that by the press.
00:45:29.000COVID is for real, we get it, but it's not the most lethal thing that's out there right now.
00:45:36.000Yeah, I won't be able to comment on that in particular, but I will say, look, I lost a dear friend yesterday to the virus, and it's really hard to talk about and still wrestling through that and reconciling it.
00:45:49.000The original mentor and person that believed in me at Turning Point USA, and he was 80 years old and internally optimistic person.
00:45:58.000He was just, I mean, honestly, so if your life has been touched by anything I've ever said or Turning Point USA, you can thank this man, Bill Montgomery, for that, because he was a 72-year-old eternal optimist who grabbed me when I was 18 years old, and I was lost.
00:46:14.000And it's a great lesson for anyone out there.
00:46:16.000Who's saying, What can I contribute to the world?
00:46:18.000Well, find a young person and do exactly what he did to me.
00:46:20.000And he said, Charlie, I wasn't really sure what I wanted to do with my life.
00:48:17.000And like a prism, I kind of look at this as a prism theory.
00:48:20.000His single beam of light, this guy that was living a life where he was just looking for someone to connect to, found an 18-year-old that was looking for that.
00:48:30.000And we've impacted millions of people at Turning Point USA.
00:48:34.000We're on 2,000 high school in college connected to that.
00:48:44.000I know it's a deviation of what you said, but it has to, it has to, I really need to say this.
00:48:50.000And it's a, if anyone's been touched by Turning Point or anyone, if you've been touched by anyone that's ever come through the ranks of Turning Point or spoke or the impact we've had for years, it can come back to that single piece of light, believing in a singular high schooler.
00:49:04.000And, you know, tragically, he passed away yesterday, and that's a real hard thing for me to wrestle with.
00:49:10.000And so, look, I just want to make sure I commit that to, you know, that I live out his legacy every single day and what we're doing.
00:49:18.000And he would have told me to speak tonight.
00:49:30.000A strong male, a biblically based masculinity is a very powerful life shaping.
00:49:39.000And look, he was, yeah, and it's exactly right.
00:49:43.000And so now I look at how all of a sudden, you know, I'm speaking to 2,000 people tonight, and we're talking to tens of thousands on the live stream.
00:49:50.000I very easily could have been a lost cause.
00:50:07.000It's a great thing for a young person out there.
00:50:09.000I happen to be ready to listen to it and take a crazy, bold path and step.
00:50:13.000And God works in very mysterious ways, I can tell you.
00:50:16.000And the final point I'll say is this, is that we look at our country and we look at how some of us are wondering when are things going to rise up.
00:50:29.000There are things happening in our country that we don't even recognize and realize that people that are being converted every single day when people are dropping the shackles of leftism and liberalism that are coming around there.
00:50:39.000And you kind of look at these prisms of light that exist, right?
00:50:43.000And that should be a lesson to everyone in this room.
00:51:02.000I believe that's an awesome argument to the reality of the Bible and the existence of God.
00:51:08.000Our human capacity longs for opportunity like that.
00:51:14.000We long for, when you're little, when you're so impressionable, you're looking, you don't even realize you're looking for a strong or good word to come to you.
00:51:42.000And when that is exchanged, which is an argument for us being created in the image of God, we don't do well, and we're not supposed to do well with being torn down.
00:51:52.000But the moment somebody says, you know what, I think you can actually do that, it's that old saying that hope springs eternal.
00:51:59.000And you thank God for America, or America is thankful for you and having him speak into your life, and you are the result of one man's encouragement.
00:52:09.000And it's the multiplier effect, and it just shows amazing.
00:52:13.000You spread truth to one person who could spread it to millions, who can spread it to millions, and maybe they'll spread it to millions.
00:52:18.000And all of a sudden, you have people that are organically communicating with each other that both have worldviews that were informed by the millions of ripples that no one even knew.
00:52:25.000And maybe those people end up implicating, you know, millions of more.
00:52:28.000And it can happen like that, and it will.
00:52:29.000And I know that, and I've seen it happen.
00:52:31.000And just to show you that, that's why I'm an eternal optimist with these things.
00:53:43.000So if socialism was so great, why did the caravan come north for America, not south for Venezuela?
00:53:48.000Why does the movement of human beings always come towards societies that are rooted in individual initiative and liberty, not in tyranny and collectivized control?
00:53:57.000I mean, human beings will gravitate towards what is actually prosperous, good, and true.
00:54:01.000And so there's a lot of, there's actually a tremendous amount of truth behind it.
00:54:05.000No, Prager just recently said that during the 300 and some odd years of slave trading, that 304,000 slaves were captured by Muslim slave traders in North Africa and then put on the market and sold to the United States.
00:55:31.000Only in America can you too become worth $50 million, saying that you live in an awful place.
00:55:37.000And there's a tremendous amount of truth with that.
00:55:39.000And it's almost become fashionable to hate everything around you, right?
00:55:43.000And it's actually, it takes more wisdom, more restraint, more maturity to actually say, no, there's actually been generations of sacrifice to create all the institutions around us.
00:55:54.000But it's actually the actions of a petulant child that would act that way because there's no gratitude for what preceded them.
00:56:13.000Let's talk about the fact, let's be honest, and I know you and I know this really well: is the fact that Donald Trump being in the presidency, no matter how or what you think about him, remember, the night that the election started, he was down by 20 points.
00:56:57.000But first, you know, the guy who came down the golden escalator defeated 16 other Republicans, called out how both parties have betrayed the American middle class, beat the media, beat the Clintons, beat the Bushes, beat voter fraud, deep state, and big tech, gets spied on, becomes president.
00:57:22.000They launch a fake Russia Mueller probe.
00:57:24.000We end up moving the embassy to leading the Iran deal, killing Qassam Soleimani, Baghdadi, eliminating ISIS.
00:57:33.000Most pro-life president in American history.
00:57:38.000Most pro-life president in American history.
00:57:48.000You got Gorsuch, you got Kavanaugh, you got over 200 circuit court judges, more regulations cut than any other president since Abraham Lincoln, believe it or not.
00:57:57.000We have the best economy in American history.
00:58:12.000Then we decide that we're an awful country.
00:58:14.000We want to burn it down to the ground, race riots.
00:58:16.000Oh, and they impeached him back in January and we thought we were going to go to war with Iran.
00:58:20.000Did you think it was going to be easy when a disruptor became president?
00:58:24.000Did you think that all of a sudden this was going to be a seamless entry into all of a sudden putting the power back to the people away from the kingdom of Washington, D.C.?
00:58:34.000No, this actually makes a lot of sense.
00:58:37.000This makes sense that the man that is there, he is a vessel for each and every one of you that believes that the ruling class in our country has not been serving your best interest.
00:59:11.000When you hire a bodyguard to defend your family when riots are outside, do you go and tap them on the shoulder when the bullets are flying and they're coming closer?
00:59:22.000Hey, hey, man, can I look at your tweets?
00:59:29.000And he's like, you understand the mob's right there, right?
01:02:30.000And so There's a lot of Christians that say, Well, I'm not going to, and there's certain publications that have done this, and you know them better than I do Christian publications.
01:02:42.000And they say, Well, I'm not going to tolerate Donald Trump and all of his shenanigans and all this sort of stuff.
01:02:48.000I say, Man, you must be really okay with a million abortions a year to have that kind of snobbish, elitist attitude.
01:02:54.000And I'm not willing to go in front of my creator with that kind of cockiness, my friend.
01:02:59.000I am not willing to face judgment and say, you know, the million abortion a year thing, I decided to stay silent on that because I didn't like a guy's tone.
01:03:18.000I'm not prepared to make that argument.
01:03:58.000The two justices that Donald Trump put on the court, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, said clearly and emphatically, church is essential and churches should remain oak.
01:04:06.000Ivory Tower Christians in the Southern Baptist Convention since you're better human beings than I am, explained to me very clearly.
01:04:12.000The Christian George W. Bush put John Roberts on the court and the three times married, twice divorced, once cover of the Playboy magazine person that you think is vulgar and awful, he's defending Christianity more than the person that you say is more fit to be president.
01:04:26.000So don't give me that nonsense for any second whatsoever.
01:04:30.000Because I am so clearly right now and boy, my goodness, it is this ivory tower, I'm better than you are, snobbish style of Christianity that I have, my patience is zero, done nothing with it.
01:04:47.000And it is, it is, and I see some of that, I watch some of their speeches, I read some of their writings, and they say, oh, this is so unacceptable, and this and decline of a nation and all of that.
01:04:56.000And I say, my goodness, I just, I cannot get to a place where I am perfectly acceptable and okay with the United States Supreme Court saying that churches are not essential.
01:05:05.000I'm going to fight for justice as I fight for that.
01:05:07.000I'm going to fight for the rule of law.
01:05:39.000If you're voting for people that are okay and want to increase the amount of unborn children that are terminated in the womb every single year, how is that not an extension of your moral action?
01:05:49.000How is that not an extension of your biblical worldview?
01:05:51.000How is that not an extension of the text that you're reading that says all people are made in the image of God?
01:05:57.000Of course, he cares about how you vote.
01:06:01.000You raised, listen, this is very interesting because I can speak to this a little bit: that there are more Bible studies and prayer meetings in this administration and cabinet than any other recorded time in American history.
01:06:24.000And what's amazing about what's going on is This president, one of the first things, many of you don't know this, but before President Trump was even sworn into office, he turned to a man who was tapped with writing the 2016 Republican Party platform.
01:06:58.000And Donald Trump turned to Tony Perkins and said, I need, I want, I'm going to do this the first chance I get, and that is I want to get Christians that are being religiously persecuted in other parts of the world.
01:07:31.000And then I also happen to be on the fifth team with this faith initiative team, which is just a handful of guys.
01:07:36.000But having said that, I remember being in Miami with the president, and he walked into a room of just a handful of people and he said, and they were all pastors.
01:08:40.000I mean, yes, I'm happy to talk about it.
01:08:42.000We're still working on the finalization, but you guys are like family, so I'll share it with you.
01:08:47.000So, yeah, it's a book where I'm challenging the idea that every kid needs to go to college.
01:08:57.000And it's going to be, I'm thinking the right way to write it and the right way to present it.
01:09:04.000But I think that this cultural expectation that we have set on young people that they have to go to four-year university, I think it is unhealthy.
01:09:29.000I am not anti-the university in the ideal sense.
01:09:31.000I think the university can and should be a place where ideas can be shared in a Socratic method where we can find universal truth and that we can be able to hear the other side.
01:09:57.000We have a culture right now where we have people that are borrowing money they do not have to study things that don't matter to find jobs that do not exist.
01:10:30.000Let's just look at the fruit of which has been delivered from the university.
01:10:35.000The New York Federal Reserve said that 40% of recent college graduates are now employed in jobs, if they're employed at all, of jobs that do not require a college degree.
01:10:46.000Mind you, 41% of kids that go to college will not graduate.
01:10:49.000So we are dealing with an overpopulation problem of our colleges.
01:10:53.000And I'm going to be very honest with you: the amount that you parents are paying in tuition is outrageous and it's a scam.
01:11:00.000And you are paying tens of thousands of dollars for something that I think, quite honestly, is one of the most disingenuous, deceiving cultural expectations we have.
01:11:21.000Yeah, and so you have to ask yourself the question: why do I want to go to college?
01:11:25.000So I always make the argument: start from the default position, I'm not going to go to college, and then prove to myself why I should go to college.
01:14:28.000And maybe that college is right if you want to become an engineer or something very specific, but a majority of people that go to college say, Well, I want to find myself in college.
01:14:36.000Well, that's a great way to lose yourself.
01:14:45.000So I want to do this, and I'm trying to find the right way.
01:14:48.000And I'm trying to find the right person to help support it.
01:14:51.000I want to do a test where I take 10 kids that could have gone to a good college, take the equivalent of what they would have spent in a very simple money market account and mutual interest, you know, mutual funds, and have them go into minimum wage work and work their way up in something they have a passion for, something they have a talent for, track them over a decade versus the 10 people that go to these schools and who's going to be doing better over the next 10 years.
01:15:12.000And I just know that the people that would have entered the world immediately, and there's a couple reasons for this.
01:15:19.000I'm a massive believer that a huge portion of our society actually, and I'm not one of these people, mind you, but they actually want to work with their hands eight hours a day.
01:15:29.000And we, as a society, we have demeaned and diminished, ostracized, and penalized labor work with your hands, people that want to be involved in the crafts all day long.
01:15:38.000And in fact, we've actually tried to act as if these people are less than.
01:16:24.000Point is, he makes over $200,000 a year being a plumber.
01:16:29.000And I don't know what a college grad on the average makes, but this kind of, I mean, their net worth is in the negative before we even start the game, right?
01:16:36.000So it'd be one thing if you start at a carbon neutral, right?
01:17:12.000First of all, there's only a few colleges where that would happen.
01:17:14.000But I said, you're probably going to find your kid is going to come up with some sort of scheme on how to make sure they take down the statues of Jesus Christ in the chapel at Georgetown, not actually exchange entrepreneurial business practices.
01:17:29.000I'm a huge believer in gap years, a massive believer, especially for young men, because I think that out of high school, we push kids way too quickly into this college atmosphere where it's immediately You're in debt.
01:17:59.000I could tell you that there is a gap in some of the upper income parts of our country where if you were to say to a, it's a very hard thing for certain parents to have this conversation.
01:18:08.000I'd say, would you be okay if your kid became a plumber?
01:18:11.000And I could tell you this: a lot of people that live in West Hollywood or in Beverly Hills would say no.
01:18:17.000And it'd say, so you'd rather have your kid become a leftist than a plumber.
01:18:56.000They're social conditioning us to believe that you don't want your kid to be in the non-college educated category because those are the hillabilly deplorables that are the people that are wrong in society.
01:19:08.000Send your kid to college and you too can be enlightened.
01:19:11.000Like, oh my gosh, stop whatever that is.
01:20:11.000And then act properly and straighten yourself out.
01:20:14.000And by the way, stop smoking weed and don't drink and stop staying out till 2 a.m. and maybe unplug the video games at midnight or not do them at all.
01:20:23.000Not there's anything else to say wrong with it.
01:20:24.000Just stop doing it and act properly and all of a sudden you're going to be ahead of everyone in six months.
01:20:28.000It's really not that complicated and you're going to find meaning and responsibility in it.
01:20:32.000And then we act as if it's this really hard thing, but here's what I say to parents.
01:20:36.000Have them watch every single Prague or U video and fireside chat by Dennis Prager.
01:21:40.000Understand, the indoctrination happens a lot earlier.
01:21:42.000And I think that we, as decent, reasonable people, we don't address root causes like the left does.
01:21:48.000And this is why I'm a huge proponent that we need to double the homeschooling population in the next three years in our comfort - three years.
01:22:43.000Look, unless Newsom gets out and his cohorts, they are diametrically opposed to you having the freedom to not only homeschool your kids, but charter schools and primary schools.
01:22:57.000They're already going after them here in California.
01:23:03.000In fact, I know, look, Turning Point could have been based in California, but it's based in Arizona.
01:23:10.000Isn't it sad that Elon Musk, now who said, I don't want to leave California, I love California, now he announces, I'm sorry, but Tesla's leaving.
01:24:07.000But in some ways, it was actually a show that, you look, it couldn't really be aired today because it was about keeping the family together.
01:24:12.000And it always ended in some form of a moral good.
01:24:26.000It'd be like everyone would be spying on each other and social media controlling ourselves.
01:24:30.000Or maybe it would look like Portlandia, which actually might be more like an actual depiction of what's happening.
01:24:35.000And I think all of us recognize and realize that to a very, very, very real extent because, you know, California, in a lot of different ways, I think, was that was a precursor of good things to come for America.
01:24:47.000And now we can't allow it to be a canary in the coal mine or a harbinger for things to come for the rest of the country.
01:24:54.000They're going to try to duplicate this model all across America.
01:24:57.000And the more that you can rise up in California and the more that you can communicate and really show and turn things, Mike Garcia winning in California, Laura speak things to a lot of you, that challenges the status quo.
01:25:40.000And so I've been studying the Soviet Union a lot, and it's, boy, man, you want to see, you want to see how dark human beings can get.
01:25:48.000Just study the Soviet Union, and we have done a moral disservice to our young people not explaining to them the horrors of the Soviet Union.
01:25:57.000We've done a pretty good job of explaining 1930s Germany and 1940s Germany.
01:26:01.000But we've done a very poor job of explaining Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky and the death of Tukhachevsky and how they took power through the Bolshevik Revolution, the Kulak slaughter, and eventually Joseph Stalin.
01:26:15.000And as I've studied this, and I'm reading a phenomenal book by a Christian pastor who was locked up, I get his name wrong, Joseph Bondarenko.
01:26:43.000So I'm reading about the Soviet Union.
01:26:46.000What I've come to realize as Joseph Stalin took power, he had socialism in the cities and capitalism in the countryside, where the countryside and the peasants were living rather industrious lives of private property and people were flourishing.
01:27:19.000And then he ends up becoming a true rebel against God in the most pure sense.
01:27:25.000I mean, he actually never admitted that he didn't believe in God.
01:27:28.000He considered his existence as a struggle against God.
01:27:31.000I mean, in a very bizarre way, is even more evil in some ways.
01:27:35.000And that's a different conversation or a different channel.
01:27:37.000But Stalin thought of himself as a God, as a deity.
01:27:40.000And if you want to talk about someone who actually assumed the most totalitarian control, it'd be Joseph Stalin.
01:27:47.000He had control over everything, the Pulitz Bureau, but he wasn't happy enough with the countryside not being socialists.
01:27:53.000So even though the countryside was basically functioning and working through private property and the price system, it was really the bread capital of most of Europe, the countryside of Russia and Ukraine and Eastern Europe.
01:28:47.000He empowered 3,000 people to be the mini Stalins of their town.
01:28:51.000They empowered Stalins underneath them to be the Stalins in the classroom and the Stalins in the church and the Stalins in the countryside.
01:28:58.000And you say, well, Charlie, what does that have to do with me?
01:29:01.000How many of you have allowed tyranny to come across your radar screen in the last couple weeks and you've said, should I do something or not?
01:29:09.000How many of you have seen an autocrat use strength against the weak in the last three weeks and you've asked, should I do something?
01:29:16.000Because that's exactly what happened in the Soviet Union: they were micro-tyrannies, right?
01:29:21.000Is that there were many Joseph Stalins that popped up, and it was the teacher that went to the eight-year-old and said, You're evil because you're white.
01:29:31.000It's the local school district that says, we are going to teach the 1619 project.
01:29:36.000And the parents said, well, I guess that's just the way it is.
01:29:39.000Or it's the store clerk that says something so outrageous because you won't round up your transactional purchase at the local grocery store to go fund BLM Inc.
01:29:51.000And they say you're the worst person in the world.
01:29:53.000Or it's the local fast food restaurant that makes all their employees take a knee not to Jesus Christ but to BLM for something they never did, blaming people on their immutable characteristics, which itself is evil to blame something on something they did not do because of the melanin in their skin.
01:30:08.000And it is evil and it should be spoken out against every single day.
01:31:37.000My odds of winning are less, so I'm going to stop talking.
01:31:42.000So I don't think I'm going to do anything up against that tyrant teacher who's exploiting an eight-year-old because he happens to be white.
01:31:48.000I don't think I'm going to make a difference.
01:31:50.000That's not an excuse not to say something.
01:31:52.000So right here, right now, you have 2,000 people in the room.
01:31:56.000There are thousands of micro-tyrants that want nothing more to use their positions of power to exploit the weak.
01:32:01.000All it takes is for good people to do something.
01:33:52.000And that assembly bill was a bill that was going to cost you and I $15 million whereby the state-sanctioned deployment of hormone replacement therapy for children in public school of eight years of age and up.
01:34:13.000If they want to change their gender, you and I were going to pay for it.
01:34:17.000These are the kind of people that we have voted into office.0.92
01:34:59.000So we just found out today that, and we don't know exactly why, but the bill that was supposed to be absolutely slam dunk has been not only pulled, it will not be back for the remainder of this year.
01:35:28.000Heavenly Father, I thank you, Lord, for Charlie and his ministry and his business and his calling and his career and his leadership and his influence.
01:35:40.000Father, we know that you've touched this young man, Lord God, in such a unique way.
01:35:46.000And Father, I pray that this would go to his heart and not his head.
01:35:51.000And that is, Lord, we're looking at our generation of a C.S. Lewis in the making right here, right now.
01:35:59.000And Father, for such a time as this, brings us great hope and great assurance that you're not done with this nation.
01:36:06.000I believe you're not done with California.
01:36:09.000But Father God, we pray that you continue to use him.
01:36:12.000And I pray that you'd bless Turning Point USA beyond their ability to contain it.
01:36:17.000God, that you'd protect them against all of the insanity that would seek to silence them.
01:36:23.000And Father, as Charlie skirts around this nation in the night, traveling to be to the next place, that you keep him safe, surround those, cause those around him to be safe.
01:36:36.000And Father, we pray, Lord God, that we pray that this coming election in November, Father, that your mercy and your grace would be there.
01:36:46.000And Father, even for our president, we pray for his salvation.
01:36:51.000But God, more importantly than that, we pray for men that we love like Mark Pompeo and Mike Pence and so many others that are just doing an amazing job and they love you with all their hearts that there would nobody be in this room a spectator to these things, that they would not sit this out, but that they'd register to vote and that they would vote for pro-life.
01:37:11.000We commit Charlie and I commit these people, Lord, into your hands in Jesus' name.
01:37:21.000What a great conversation that was with Jack Gibbs in front of 7,000 people not too long ago.
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