The Charlie Kirk Show - Hail the Conquering Hero with Vivek Ramaswamy and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene

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00:00:02.000 Vivek Ramaswamy joins us fresh off the debate stage.

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00:01:11.000 Vivek, welcome to the program.

00:01:13.000 Thank you for taking the time.

00:01:14.000 First and foremost, how much sleep did you get last night?

00:01:17.000 About four hours.

00:01:19.000 Nothing too terrible.

00:01:20.000 Plenty.

00:01:21.000 Ample.

00:01:21.000 So, Vivek, walk us through it all.

00:01:24.000 Debate prep, being on stage, your reaction, and kind of what's been happening since.

00:01:29.000 Walk us through it.

00:01:30.000 I mean, my view is I think the debate was actually really productive because, yeah, we can get the young guy versus establishment politician, you know, hurling insults at me thing out of the way.

00:01:40.000 That's superficial.

00:01:41.000 I think what it surfaced was a deeper ideological divide in the GOP.

00:01:47.000 And I think we need to sort out where we stand as a party.

00:01:50.000 Do we stand on the side of an establishment that is fundamentally skeptical of the will of the people?

00:01:56.000 Or do we believe in a party that actually represents the interests of American citizens?

00:02:01.000 That's what was at stake.

00:02:02.000 From the question about climate change, Charlie, where I was the only person on stage willing to speak the truth, that the climate change agenda is a hoax.

00:02:12.000 It's not about time horizons.

00:02:14.000 It's not about bending the knee but saying the Democrats are doing it too quickly.

00:02:18.000 It's about recognizing the truth.

00:02:20.000 It's about recognizing the truth in Ukraine.

00:02:22.000 Do we actually want to fight a foreign war that does not advance American interests?

00:02:27.000 Or do we wish to use those same resources to secure our own borders and our own homeland in this country?

00:02:34.000 And in that sense, I think it was a really successful debate.

00:02:37.000 I'm glad about people were pleased by my performance.

00:02:40.000 Frankly, I was a first-time debater on a political debate stage.

00:02:44.000 So I'm glad that I came out the winner.

00:02:46.000 But even more importantly, I think this is going to make the Republican Party stronger and the country stronger by hopefully sunsetting this old GOP model that I think we finally got to put a nail in the coffin on.

00:02:57.000 Let me read you some of these headlines.

00:02:59.000 Ramaswamy suddenly becomes a force after the GOP debate.

00:03:02.000 Ramaswamy makes impression nationally inside Vivek Ramaswamy's astonishing rise.

00:03:07.000 How Vivek Ramaswamy broke through at the first GOP debate.

00:03:10.000 These are like New York Times Politico.

00:03:11.000 So I think that, I mean, it's by far the big takeaway here.

00:03:14.000 Now, Vivek, you know, we've been hammering the other people on stage with you.

00:03:17.000 You were the only person that stood in contrast with the neocon, neoliberal agenda.

00:03:26.000 And my favorite part of the whole debate is like finally when Ukraine came up, we were streaming live.

00:03:30.000 I said, just keep your eye on Vivek.

00:03:32.000 And, you know, they say, who here doesn't want to send money to this foreign war?

00:03:36.000 And boom, your hand goes straight up and you got DeSantis do this little, this little thing with his wrist.

00:03:41.000 I don't even know what that was.

00:03:42.000 And then you leaned into it and then you were lectured by neocon Nikki and all these other people, which was just such a joke.

00:03:49.000 And so, Vivek, walk us through that.

00:03:52.000 But also, I was most upset because, I mean, you speak a lot.

00:03:56.000 You spoke at our action conference.

00:03:58.000 The audience was not your typical Republican-based audience.

00:04:01.000 It was full, wasn't it?

00:04:03.000 Yeah, so I want your comments on that.

00:04:05.000 I mean, this is a donor audience, right?

00:04:07.000 So the puppet masters, many of them were in the audience yesterday.

00:04:12.000 I was speaking to the people at home, but the people in that audience are largely the puppet masters in the super PAC class that are pulling the strings of the super PAC puppets who are on stage.

00:04:22.000 And that's the problem with the Republican Party.

00:04:24.000 You actually saw this with Trump.

00:04:25.000 He called it out what was in Twitter in one of the early debates in 2015.

00:04:29.000 It's the same show all over again.

00:04:32.000 And I think this is the problem, not just with our party, because it's a problem in both parties, Charlie, but it is a problem with American politics is that the politicians themselves are just, if I may use the term, listless vessels for the super PACs that effectively prop them up.

00:04:48.000 And so I'm an independent patriot.

00:04:50.000 I have the capacity to speak the truth.

00:04:52.000 I've been blessed to live the American dream.

00:04:54.000 I'm grateful for that, grateful to this country for giving me that opportunity.

00:04:58.000 But I have to make a sacrifice to avoid being that super PAC puppet.

00:05:02.000 And so we're putting boatloads of my own hard-earned money into this campaign precisely because I want to avoid relying on the people who are in that audience to prop me up.

00:05:12.000 And that's what allows me to speak the truth on an issue like Ukraine, where it was an anaphylactic action on that stage, but it's in much of the Republican Party as well that is attached to this idea that the USSR still exists.

00:05:25.000 I had to educate Mike Pence on stage that the USSR fell back in 1990 and awakened to the idea that communist China is actually the real threat we face today. 0.88

00:05:34.000 And we're making the Russia-China alliance stronger by driving Russia further into China's hands by extending this war in Ukraine.

00:05:41.000 And so I hope we actually delve in the next few debates into this, Charlie.

00:05:45.000 This is what separates the boys from the men in some ways in our party, separates those who are true to this country versus those who are true to slogans they memorize back in 1980.

00:05:54.000 And I think that this should be one of the areas where we go deep in the debates over the course of this fall.

00:05:59.000 These mindless soundbites of kind of neocon days past. 0.95

00:06:03.000 I mean, first of all, Mike Pence was so disgusting to you. 0.97

00:06:06.000 Let me just say this. 0.97

00:06:07.000 Like, let me say this slower so you can understand.

00:06:10.000 Like, what are you trying to like insinuate that Vivek is like your house slave or something? 0.69

00:06:15.000 I mean, it's like disgusting, honestly. 0.64

00:06:17.000 No, I'm going to be honest.

00:06:18.000 It was like this canned thing over.

00:06:21.000 And like, or and I love when you called it out when Mike Pence was like, we need a government as good as our people.

00:06:26.000 I don't know what that means.

00:06:27.000 Okay.

00:06:28.000 I mean, we're living through a color revolution, an administrative state siege on the American people. 0.91

00:06:33.000 These one-liner platitudes, Mike Pence, are not going to cut it. 0.99

00:06:36.000 I thought that honestly, for a guy that I've always considered to be Mike Pence to be an honorable man, he was acting like a jerk on stage, be honest. 0.99

00:06:43.000 He was mean to you. 1.00

00:06:45.000 He was cruel.

00:06:46.000 You don't have to play in that if you don't want to, Vivek.

00:06:47.000 I'm just being honest.

00:06:48.000 Like, he was not.

00:06:49.000 I can handle it, Charlie.

00:06:51.000 It's a little surprising.

00:06:53.000 I know you can't.

00:06:54.000 I just, I'm saying that he didn't win over people for being this fake sincerity.

00:07:01.000 Like, oh, and it's just, anyway, it drives me nuts.

00:07:05.000 Do you have a thought on that, Vivek?

00:07:07.000 Well, I'll kind of lift the curtain a little bit and tell you the conversation we have in between the commercial breaks, which is usually if I see him at these events on the campaign trail, all I get is, how's the family doing?

00:07:17.000 I've gotten, can't tell you how many handwritten sign notes I've gotten from Mike Pence in the last two years.

00:07:23.000 I don't know if that was courting me as a prospective donor or whatever, but they'd arrive in the mail hand sign, asking about the family every time he sees me.

00:07:29.000 So I actually congratulated him in the commercial break because I said, I didn't know you had it in you.

00:07:34.000 I was actually kind of proud of him because this is a guy who's kind of presented himself as a little bit of a teddy bear, a little bit of a guy going through the motions, reading the scripts his handlers give him.

00:07:43.000 And there seemed to be on stage for the first time a genuine animus in his eyes.

00:07:48.000 Like he actually came alive in some of those vitriolic attacks on me.

00:07:53.000 And my true sense was I was kind of proud of him to actually see an independent, lively soul somewhere in there beyond the platitudes.

00:08:02.000 That actually made me somewhat proud of the man.

00:08:04.000 And I told him that.

00:08:05.000 I don't know how he took it.

00:08:06.000 You're a good sport.

00:08:07.000 So what gets Mike Pence really fired up?

00:08:07.000 Yeah.

00:08:10.000 An American saying we shouldn't fund the war in Ukraine.

00:08:13.000 Then you have the fighter come out.

00:08:15.000 CNN asked real voters, not Super Pat Master, Pfizer, Johnson, Pfizer, Johnson and Johnson, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, or Northrop Grumman donors that were in well attendance last night.

00:08:27.000 Hey, who do you think won Play Cut 132?

00:08:29.000 Here's what I want to ask you about.

00:08:31.000 Who you thought did the best during this debate?

00:08:33.000 Basically, who do you think won the debate?

00:08:34.000 I'm going to do it in alphabetical order to be fair.

00:08:36.000 Anyone think Doug Bergham did the best?

00:08:39.000 That's zero.

00:08:40.000 Anyone think Chris Christie did the best?

00:08:41.000 He certainly got most of the airtime.

00:08:43.000 A lot of the airtime, not most of the airtime.

00:08:45.000 How about Ron DeSantis?

00:08:46.000 How many of you think Ron DeSantis did the best?

00:08:48.000 That's two people.

00:08:49.000 How about Nikki Haley?

00:08:51.000 One, two, three, four people. 0.99

00:08:54.000 Asa Hutchinson?

00:08:57.000 Mike Pence?

00:08:59.000 Zero.

00:09:00.000 The Vaik Ramaswamy?

00:09:02.000 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

00:09:06.000 Tim Scott.

00:09:08.000 Okay, so this panel here thinks Ramaswamy won the debate.

00:09:12.000 The people are with you, and we predicted it on the show.

00:09:15.000 And I know you and I were texting a little bit.

00:09:16.000 I said, if you stand where actually Republican voters are, you're going to be rewarded.

00:09:21.000 It wasn't my performance, Charlie.

00:09:22.000 It was the content of what I was saying.

00:09:24.000 Speaking the hard truth about the cancerous shadow government in this country.

00:09:28.000 That's the real war we need to wage, not a foreign war in Ukraine that doesn't advance our interests.

00:09:33.000 And so, you know what?

00:09:34.000 I'm a vehicle for advancing the will of the people.

00:09:37.000 That's the way I view it.

00:09:38.000 Our America First agenda.

00:09:40.000 It is bigger than any one of us, bigger than any one man.

00:09:40.000 It is bigger than me.

00:09:43.000 And you stand on that side.

00:09:45.000 I think that's going to create a coalition far bigger than the current Republican Party.

00:09:49.000 Going to independence, nonpartisan people across this country that stand for America First.

00:09:54.000 That's how we win.

00:09:55.000 If you guys feel so compelled, chip in.

00:09:56.000 The Vaik won the debate last night.

00:09:58.000 He stood for the values that we care about.

00:10:00.000 And he was under attack by every one of the snakes on stage.

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00:11:52.000 So you're going to get attacked from every possible direction.

00:11:54.000 You're the winner of the debate.

00:11:55.000 Your poll numbers are going to go up.

00:11:57.000 So let's lean right into just what some of the people are trying to say about you.

00:12:01.000 This is what I love about Vivek. 0.61

00:12:03.000 All these other politicians, they're such low testosterone. 0.96

00:12:05.000 They're such a waste of time. 0.97

00:12:06.000 Oh, we need pre-scripted.

00:12:08.000 You can't go off script.

00:12:09.000 Vivek, it's just like, let's let it fly.

00:12:11.000 That's very unique.

00:12:11.000 Vivek, the one thing I got emailed a lot this morning is about something with a scholarship with Soros.

00:12:17.000 What the heck is this all about?

00:12:20.000 Well, look, I mean, I've answered this question a lot on different podcasts, but it's good.

00:12:23.000 It's good for people to be skeptical and ask the questions.

00:12:26.000 So when I was 24 years old, I was in Yale Law School.

00:12:30.000 In the fall of my 1L year, there was an opportunity to win a scholarship, which I did win, which was funded by not George Soros, but a relative of George Soros, Paul Soros, his brother, who's long dead, who made his money independently, to attend law school.

00:12:46.000 And it's a generic scholarship.

00:12:47.000 Hundreds of people win it every year.

00:12:49.000 It would be malpractice. 0.99

00:12:51.000 It would have been idiotic at that age to turn down that scholarship. 0.98

00:12:55.000 But the reality is there is one candidate. 0.96

00:12:58.000 I don't mean to be, you know, hurling insults at anybody, but I do find it kind of funny that there's one candidate in this race that George Soros has expressly come out and supported.

00:13:08.000 There's one candidate in this race, or at least has said good things about that he wants to see him win the primary.

00:13:13.000 One candidate who George Soros' investment partners have hosted a fundraiser for.

00:13:17.000 That's not me.

00:13:18.000 That's Ron DeSantis.

00:13:19.000 I'm not going to hold that against him.

00:13:20.000 And, you know, even if you, even if you date back to Trump, who I love, who many of your audience members love, Trump took $160 million loan from George Soros.

00:13:27.000 That doesn't mean that he's owned by George Soros.

00:13:30.000 He's a businessman.

00:13:30.000 He knows what to do when it comes time to being smart.

00:13:33.000 And so when I was 24 years old, I was smart too.

00:13:35.000 I took a scholarship that helped me pay for law school.

00:13:38.000 I wasn't born into money.

00:13:39.000 And the truth of the matter is they're probably really upset that I ever won that now that they see what I've become and what I'm doing in this country.

00:13:47.000 But that's the fact of the matter.

00:13:48.000 People should be asking questions because we've been duped.

00:13:51.000 Second question I'm getting, Vivek, is Israel.

00:13:53.000 That one has gone viral.

00:13:55.000 Let's talk about Israel.

00:13:56.000 Yeah.

00:13:57.000 Yeah.

00:13:58.000 So the thing that is laughable, Charlie, is the number of headlines that came out in the last week.

00:14:03.000 And I think this is coming from the Nikki Haley camp in particular, based on what she said last night, but I think it's coming from other camps too.

00:14:09.000 Headlines putting words in my mouth that I never said.

00:14:12.000 Now, what did I say?

00:14:13.000 I was in the Russell Brand podcast.

00:14:15.000 I've said it a couple of other times, that it would be a mark of success for Israel and for the U.S. if we ever got to a point where Israel no longer even required the relatively minimal amount of aid that the U.S. provides to Israel.

00:14:30.000 That fact alone made people lose their minds.

00:14:32.000 Let me just be clear about where I am on Israel.

00:14:35.000 I am highly confident, Charlie, that by the end of my first term, our relationship with Israel will actually be stronger than it has ever been because I will not treat it as a client relationship.

00:14:48.000 I will treat it as a friendship.

00:14:50.000 And what do true friends do?

00:14:51.000 They help people stand up and they help each other stand up strongly.

00:14:56.000 How are we going to do that?

00:14:57.000 I'll lead Abraham Accords 2.0, major achievement of the Trump administration.

00:15:02.000 Well, we can take that to the next level by getting Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, Indonesia into that pact.

00:15:07.000 Say that we're not going to hold Israel hostage over a fringe Palestine question before integrating itself into the economic and security infrastructure of the Middle East.

00:15:15.000 Stand hard in a partnership with Israel to make sure that Iran never, ever, actually ever has nuclear capabilities. 0.89

00:15:22.000 But I also want to learn from Israel, to be perfectly honest with you.

00:15:26.000 As a friend, friends learn from each other.

00:15:27.000 I would love Israel's border policies in this country.

00:15:30.000 I would love Israel's tough on crime policies in this country.

00:15:33.000 I would love a national identity in this country, like Israel has in its own country.

00:15:38.000 I would love an iron dome protecting our homeland in the way that it protects Israel from Hamas. 0.99

00:15:43.000 And so those are great attributes of Israel.

00:15:46.000 And I say this as somebody who's probably been to Israel in the last 10 years more than most of the other candidates on that stage last night.

00:15:52.000 I have business partners in Israel.

00:15:53.000 Some of my closest friends have traveled there a lot for a reason.

00:15:57.000 I admire Israel because they are looking after their national interests.

00:16:00.000 And we're their friend, and we should be allies in that because we have common causes.

00:16:04.000 But I want to learn from that.

00:16:06.000 And the irony that bothers the heck out of me is you have a bunch of Democrats and some in the Republican Party too that will applaud to fund those things in Israel.

00:16:13.000 And that's great as an ally without actually adopting those policies here, calling them racist or xenophobic when we do it here at home in our own southern border.

00:16:21.000 So that's what I'm going to change.

00:16:22.000 And that's a true friendship built to last, far stronger relationship than the client-transactional relationship that the other super PAC puppets on that stage wanted yesterday.

00:16:31.000 So what does the next month or two look like?

00:16:33.000 Post-debate, schedule, pace, messaging, because now the race really has started Vivek.

00:16:40.000 So I think there will be a temptation, I'm sure.

00:16:42.000 Now we're getting flooded with people who want to fund the campaign, et cetera.

00:16:44.000 And my view is great.

00:16:45.000 We're going to need that, but I'm not going to change what I say.

00:16:48.000 I'm going to go deep on the way in which the climate change agenda is absolutely a hoax.

00:16:54.000 And I got a lot of flack for that from the donor class.

00:16:58.000 Oh, believe me.

00:16:59.000 Oh, believe me.

00:17:01.000 Believe me.

00:17:02.000 So the name of the game going forward is the same thing that got me from 0.0% to running as a solid number two right now is going to be what takes this campaign to the next level.

00:17:12.000 Stay true to principle, speak the truth.

00:17:14.000 I would rather lose an election and speak the truth at every step than to win by playing political snakes and ladders.

00:17:20.000 Vave Ramaswamy, the winner of the debate, speaking the truth.

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00:18:26.000 Joining us now is Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green, the legendary MTG, who, instead of watching the debate, she was watching the Trump Tucker interview instead of watching the debate.

00:18:38.000 MTG, welcome to the program.

00:18:40.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:18:40.000 Thanks for having me on.

00:18:42.000 Yeah, I got busted last night watching what I thought to be much more interesting content.

00:18:47.000 Well, much more important.

00:18:49.000 Your impression.

00:18:50.000 Okay, so the most important thing, MTG, you know the base really well and you traveled the country, speak at a ton of events, hundreds.

00:18:57.000 Who was in the audience last night?

00:18:59.000 That's not your typical Republican base activist.

00:19:03.000 No, absolutely not.

00:19:04.000 That was the donor class that cheered so loudly when every single candidate on the stage except the vet was all ready for World War III, ready to send more American taxpayer dollars over to Ukraine and push us closer to World War III.

00:19:19.000 This is also a crowd that was thrilled with the basically vanilla Bush Republican era questions that were coming from the moderators.

00:19:28.000 They would cheer loudly for that.

00:19:30.000 They cheered big time for Ron DeSantis, even though all of us know that he truly lost the debate and lost the primary last night.

00:19:37.000 I would call many of the people that were in the room last night, even though they're Republican voters, they're the 25% that are pretty much probably the never-Trumpers and the ones that will not be the one, they won't be the crowd electing our Republican nominee.

00:19:53.000 It's the people that go to the Trump rallies, the hardworking people in America that truly care about America first policies and MAGA policies.

00:20:01.000 Those will be the voters that declare our Republican nominee.

00:20:05.000 And Charlie, I'm going to tell you right now, it's Donald Trump.

00:20:08.000 Yeah, I mean, that's abundantly clear.

00:20:10.000 So now, looking at everything, you believe that Donald Trump not attending the debate was the right decision.

00:20:16.000 Oh, I totally do.

00:20:17.000 And I told him last week, I said, there's no need for you to go to this.

00:20:20.000 It's a complete waste of time.

00:20:22.000 He had no need to stand on that stage with a bunch of candidates that would just attack him the entire time.

00:20:28.000 He doesn't have to prove his policies because they're proven when he gave us the best four years as president of the United States that I've ever had in my lifetime.

00:20:37.000 And I'm 49 years old.

00:20:39.000 And Joe Biden, the president right now, has been in office longer than I have been alive, which is shocking to me because I have adult children.

00:20:47.000 So I'm not young by any means.

00:20:49.000 And here's Joe Biden that's gotten filthy rich, Charlie, tens of millions of dollars, possibly even over $100 million, off of selling out American foreign policy decisions and all kinds of political favors, abusing his power in office.

00:21:04.000 And they got richer and richer and richer.

00:21:06.000 Well, Americans have gotten poorer and poorer and poorer to the point where people can hardly afford to pay their bills and buy groceries and put food on the table.

00:21:14.000 That's what this election is going to be about.

00:21:17.000 So, you know, the booing and the Nikki Haley horrific World War III foreign policy that we heard last night and the stale old Chris Chris Chrissy was in the wrong debate.

00:21:28.000 He belongs in the Democrat Party. 0.83

00:21:30.000 I mean, all of that garbage was so bad that everyone I've talked to today is just outrage. 0.97

00:21:35.000 And then we can't believe, Charlie, I want to say this. 0.99

00:21:38.000 They didn't talk about transgender surgeries on kids one time.

00:21:42.000 And I couldn't believe it.

00:21:43.000 And I was so angry because that's the number one bill I have that I'm really working hard to get passed.

00:21:48.000 And I need a Republican president that will sign that into law.

00:21:52.000 But they didn't even talk about it one time.

00:21:55.000 They were too busy trying to call themselves pro-life while they're ready to vote for 15-week abortions.

00:22:01.000 Excluding Vivek, this was a reminder to me why I love Trump.

00:22:07.000 And, you know, Marjorie, something you've been talking about a lot, the weaponization of DOJ, we got little vanilla muted answers.

00:22:15.000 Nothing on election integrity.

00:22:18.000 I mean, we have this whole movement now to secure our elections.

00:22:23.000 And this is not something that has been solved.

00:22:26.000 There was not a whisper about our broken elections.

00:22:30.000 Trump is getting indicted over this topic.

00:22:33.000 You would think that we could have a little bit of an idea of how to fix our elections.

00:22:37.000 Absolutely.

00:22:37.000 And you're 100% right.

00:22:39.000 And that's not an old 2020 topic.

00:22:41.000 It's very much a 2023, and it will be a 2024 topic.

00:22:46.000 Just in the past matter of days, I've been on the ground in Iowa at the Iowa State Fair campaigning for President Trump.

00:22:53.000 And then I was in Florida just for a few days talking to many supporters there.

00:22:58.000 Then I was at the debate last night in Wisconsin.

00:23:01.000 All of those places, you know what I heard constantly?

00:23:04.000 And it's the same thing I hear when I'm here in Georgia and at home in my district.

00:23:09.000 They talk about election integrity and they don't want their election stolen.

00:23:13.000 And I don't blame them one single bit either.

00:23:16.000 But what I heard, and I don't know if this is true, so I haven't verified it.

00:23:21.000 I heard that the candidates last night were asked to sign a pledge by the RNC saying that if they lost their election, they would accept the election results and not try to argue against it.

00:23:34.000 I'm sorry.

00:23:35.000 What kind of Republican Party is going to be happy with or just sit to the side and never question the outcome of an election?

00:23:44.000 I think we should always question elections.

00:23:46.000 We should always make sure that they're fair.

00:23:48.000 We should always make sure that our elections are safe.

00:23:51.000 That's part of being an American.

00:23:53.000 And it doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist.

00:23:56.000 It doesn't make you a bad person if you question elections.

00:23:59.000 It doesn't mean you've done anything wrong.

00:24:01.000 It means you want to make sure that the truth has been heard and that people's votes counted and that people's fraudulent votes did not get counted.

00:24:10.000 And so, yeah, they should have brought that up last night too.

00:24:13.000 So let me ask you: there was some controversy about the spin room yesterday about people being blocked.

00:24:20.000 Tell us about this.

00:24:22.000 Yeah, I was furious about that.

00:24:26.000 Sitting on the floor during the debate last night, I said to the right of me was Don Jr. and Kimberly.

00:24:33.000 To the left of me was Matt Gates and Ginger.

00:24:36.000 And we left at the last commercial break, got up from our seats and headed back to go to the spin room to prepare for interviews, to talk about the policies that we heard and didn't hear on the debate stage, to compare it to President Trump's policies.

00:24:52.000 And we're allowed to do that.

00:24:54.000 We're surrogates for his campaign.

00:24:56.000 But even more importantly, you take the three of us right there.

00:24:59.000 Matt and I are members of Congress.

00:25:02.000 We vote on bills.

00:25:03.000 We write bills.

00:25:04.000 And these are bills that get produced and will go across the president's desk to be signed into law.

00:25:10.000 So our voice in that spin room really matters because we're members of Congress, but we're also surrogates for President Trump.

00:25:17.000 And then you have Don Jr., who is the son of Donald J. Trump.

00:25:21.000 His voice matters a lot because he's been the target of this weaponized government and the censorship campaign and everything they have tried to do to the Trump family.

00:25:31.000 His voice belongs in the spin room.

00:25:33.000 He has every single right to be there.

00:25:35.000 But the Fox News executives blocked us out and they did not allow us in the spin room.

00:25:40.000 We had the credentials.

00:25:42.000 We had every single right to be there, but we were not allowed in.

00:25:46.000 And so I argued long enough with them and I took off and I went to the Rumble setup and we did an hour-long show after that.

00:25:53.000 It was myself along with Brian Glenn from Rightside.

00:25:58.000 We had Matt Gates and Don Jr. because I wanted people to know immediately what was actually happening behind the stage and how we were being treated.

00:26:07.000 And it's really the extension of censorship, Charlie.

00:26:10.000 And I'm very upset about it.

00:26:11.000 We have seen censorship non-stop coming from the Democrat Party.

00:26:15.000 We see censorship from media companies where they refuse to report important stories like the Hunter laptop story.

00:26:22.000 We see censorship coming in those kind of ways.

00:26:25.000 But Fox News last night actually censored our voices, our speech.

00:26:31.000 And by doing so, they censored President Trump's speech, what I would argue they've been doing for a long time now.

00:26:37.000 And this is exactly, you know, and I'm going down to the jail tonight.

00:26:40.000 I'm really tired.

00:26:42.000 I've been traveling nonstop on behalf of the president.

00:26:45.000 I was at the debate last night.

00:26:46.000 I had about four hours' sleep, had to fly in today to be able to go to the jail to support President Trump tonight here in Fulton County.

00:26:54.000 But do you know why the Fulton County DA is charging President Trump?

00:26:59.000 It has everything to do with his speech, his speech.

00:27:03.000 So if you think about it in those terms, we could say Fox News not allowing our voices in the spin room, not allowing President Trump's surrogates to be there is censorship in the same way the Fulton County DA doesn't like President Trump, doesn't like Rudy Giuliani, doesn't like his supporters here in Georgia, doesn't like their speech simply because they said the 2020 election was stolen.

00:27:27.000 So who exactly was not allowing you into the spin room?

00:27:30.000 Who specifically, what entity was making that decision?

00:27:33.000 It was Fox News because they were hosting the debate with the RNC and it was all of the gatekeepers outside the spin room door.

00:27:41.000 They were blocking, they were letting other members of Congress in that were surrogates of other candidates, but they were not letting us, Matt Gates and I as members of Congress.

00:27:54.000 They let Byron Donalds through somehow, I guess, because he did a joint interview with Chip Roy or something, but you guys, they just said no way.

00:28:02.000 Yeah, they blocked us out completely.

00:28:03.000 I don't know how Byron got in there.

00:28:07.000 I have no idea how Byron got in there, but they blocked us.

00:28:10.000 And it was Don Jr., Matt Gates, and myself.

00:28:14.000 The three of us went together and we were all blocked out.

00:28:18.000 And then we went back and tried a second time.

00:28:21.000 And I was there with Jason Miller.

00:28:24.000 There was a whole bunch of us from the campaign.

00:28:26.000 They blocked us all out.

00:28:28.000 So the RNC, though, that must have also been equally involved in this, Ronna Romney and the crew, correct?

00:28:34.000 They could have told Fox, hey, we want these people in there.

00:28:37.000 I would expect so.

00:28:38.000 I'm really shocked.

00:28:39.000 Anybody, any surrogate for a candidate for president, especially surrogates for the candidate that's winning with over 60% of Republican voters has the support every single day in every single poll.

00:28:54.000 He's winning by unbelievable margins.

00:28:57.000 I would fully expect they would not want to block his surrogates out.

00:29:01.000 That's shocking to me, or especially his family member.

00:29:04.000 Think about Don Jr.

00:29:05.000 I can't even comprehend that.

00:29:07.000 I wish I knew the names of the people that were standing at the door that wouldn't let us in, or I would be blasting them out.

00:29:13.000 I would have blasted them out last night, but I don't know who they were and I don't know their names.

00:29:17.000 But yeah, that's what happened last night.

00:29:19.000 Congresswoman, can you give us any update on impeachment? 0.80

00:29:23.000 I know that there's a lot of chatter around impeachment.

00:29:25.000 Do you think we're going to get a vote sometime soon?

00:29:27.000 They're saying maybe Christmas.

00:29:29.000 What can we expect here?

00:29:30.000 Oh, it needs to be a lot sooner than that.

00:29:33.000 This is something we should be voting on when we get back in Washington.

00:29:38.000 Hopefully after September 12th is when we resume session.

00:29:42.000 So this is something that I've been asking for and asking for.

00:29:45.000 Hopefully we will see that vote happening.

00:29:47.000 Like I said, I want to see it when we get back.

00:29:50.000 I don't see there for any reason to wait, especially with the damning evidence that we've uncovered in the oversight committee.

00:29:58.000 We now have proof that Joe Biden has lied to the American people.

00:30:02.000 And something important to look at history with is when Congress had proof that they claimed that Richard Nixon had lied, that's when they moved towards impeachment inquiry.

00:30:14.000 And then he resigned after that.

00:30:16.000 When Congress had proof that Bill Clinton had lied, that's when they moved towards impeachment inquiry.

00:30:22.000 Well, we have proof that Joe Biden has lied.

00:30:25.000 He always said he never knew anything about his son Hunter's business deals.

00:30:29.000 Well, in fact, we all know he does know a lot about his son's business deals, and he's very involved, according to witnesses that we've interviewed.

00:30:39.000 And so this is the reason right there for any Republican member of Congress that is still sitting on the fence for them to go ahead and vote for the impeachment inquiry.

00:30:47.000 That's not voting for impeachment itself.

00:30:49.000 That's allowing us to investigate, giving our subpoena more power and presenting this to the American people.

00:30:56.000 And they deserve to know what happened.

00:30:59.000 And so I'll be demanding that.

00:31:01.000 I don't think I'll be willing to vote for key bills that we'll be voting on this fall unless we're able to pass an impeachment inquiry.

00:31:12.000 So, I mean, then heading up to the funding deadline on September 30th, I was most frustrated last night with Tim Scott, who said, you know, we need to really rein in the DOJ of the FBI.

00:31:23.000 Do you think that we're going to finally get the House Republicans to bring zero dollars to the DOJ?

00:31:28.000 Say, you're done.

00:31:28.000 We just have to cut off the FBI, cut off their money.

00:31:31.000 Is there an appetite for that amongst Republicans?

00:31:34.000 I would argue we could not do zero dollars.

00:31:38.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:31:39.000 There's cases that I definitely want to see the Department of Justice prosecute.

00:31:44.000 Cases like child molesters, child sex traffickers, gang members related to the cartels.

00:31:51.000 There's federal crimes that we need the Department of Justice to prosecute.

00:31:55.000 Unfortunately, they spend a lot of their time prosecuting President Trump, the poor people that walked through the Capitol on January 6th, you know, parents that tried to hold their school boards accountable, and people that care about saving the unborn.

00:32:09.000 But so I would argue we can't take it down to zero, but it's been my commitment to my district here at home, my commitment to the American people.

00:32:17.000 I'm not going to vote to fully fund the Department of Justice or the FBI.

00:32:20.000 I will not vote to fund Jack Smith's special counsel.

00:32:24.000 I would like to line item.

00:32:26.000 I've tried to impeach Christopher Wray.

00:32:27.000 I introduced articles.

00:32:28.000 I've tried to impeach Merritt Garland.

00:32:30.000 I've introduced articles, and you can see how slow it is to get through even to an impeachment inquiry for Joe Biden.

00:32:37.000 So you can see how difficult that is.

00:32:39.000 I've been arguing we need to use the Holman rule to line item their salaries.

00:32:42.000 We should not be paying people that are weaponizing the government, not only against Joe Biden's top political opponents, but against the American people themselves.

00:32:51.000 So those are the difficult arguments we're going to be having.

00:32:54.000 But what is coming, Charlie, is on September 30th.

00:32:59.000 Our government is supposedly supposed to shut down.

00:33:02.000 And I know that most people could care less because the government is really intrusive and gives us more trouble in our lives most of the time than they do anything good.

00:33:11.000 But that is going to be a time where we're looking, Congress will be looking at voting for a short-term CR.

00:33:17.000 It's going to be really hard for to get someone like me, especially, and I'll go ahead and say it.

00:33:21.000 I haven't said it publicly yet, but I won't be passing any short-term CR if we cannot vote to pass an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden.

00:33:31.000 Very good, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:33:33.000 Thank you so much and get some rest.

00:33:35.000 You've been going very hard.

00:33:36.000 Thanks so much.

00:33:37.000 And thanks, Charlie.

00:33:38.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:39.000 Email me directly, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:42.000 Thank you so much for listening and God bless.

00:33:47.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 25, 2023

Hail the Conquering Hero with Vivek Ramaswamy and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene

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