00:00:40.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:49.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:12.000But think about how interesting that would be to have Chuck Schumer come out against this idea.
00:02:18.000But, well, Chuck, it's no money to investigate Hunter Biden because that would actually, Joe Biden would sign that.
00:02:28.000And it would also be no money into his political opponent.
00:02:32.000I'm not saying it's an amazing idea, but it very well might be necessary given that right now Republicans do not seem like they'll be able to defund Jack Smith.
00:02:48.000Congressman, thank you for taking the time.
00:02:50.000Boy, you have a couple eventful weeks coming up, Congressman Bishop.
00:02:54.000Walk our audience through what are the big demands that your team is making coming before 9:30, the priorities for your colleagues, Congressman Bishop.
00:03:06.000Well, Charlie, thank you for having me on.
00:03:07.000And I'm on the telephone because we're running around like chickens with heads cut off trying to see if we can get, frankly, compensate for the absence of planning and leadership within our own conference to do something appropriately bold to the circumstances.
00:03:23.000What I caught the last few minutes of your supposition or hypothetical about what we could do, I think there are a number of things.
00:03:32.000You know, we struck a basic deal in January that we were going to see material reduction in the scope and expenditure for the woke bureaucracy, the weaponized bureaucracy, in exchange for continuing to allow defense spending to rise a relatively small amount.
00:03:51.000And the appropriations bills haven't yet materialized at the target that was agreed to.
00:03:56.000We got a lot of, so we're trying to hash that out.
00:03:59.000There are people who are talking about even now a proposition for something bold to change on the border in the terms of the border chaos we face.
00:04:09.000I personally am drawn to, I believe, something, one of the things I've been in distress about as the appropriations bills have come forward is, you know, it's just sort of like business as usual with the Department of Justice.
00:04:22.000The FBI, the DOJ decision-making, now that you talk about it where the potential, you know, appearances of potential corruption are as strong as they can be.
00:04:32.000Yeah, I mean, the indictments in the election matter are a four-square attack on the First Amendment.
00:04:41.000You may love or hate Trump or any of the people associated with him, but that's what they are.
00:04:48.000And it is in the power of the Congress, in my view, to defund us.
00:04:51.000Congress has to decide what gets funded.
00:04:54.000So I don't know the answer yet, but the challenge for the Republican Conference is to be bold enough to do something.
00:05:03.000And, you know, McCarthy has to walk into Chuck Schumer's office and say, look, Chuck, read me any way you want to.
00:05:12.000We're not moving a bill forward to spend anything unless this item, these items are there.
00:05:18.000And I'm waiting to see, you know, I'm seeing here.
00:05:21.000I was just going to come walk out of a meeting where there is a proposal that's kind of coming together.
00:05:26.000I have some questions about whether doing anything on border chaos is going to really make a substantive change if Alejandro, my orchestra, is prepared to flout the law anyway.
00:05:40.000So, Congressman, you know, we've been floating out this idea of potentially saying that we suspend all DOJ investigations into presidential candidates, including Cornell West, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, at least until after the 2024 election.
00:05:54.000Just want to kind of have you think about that, not now and just in the days to come, because that would be an interesting way to actually call the bluff, because the defunding of Jack Smith, I think, is the most important thing.
00:06:04.000We need a surgical strike against the deep state.
00:06:07.000And what they're able to do to be able to slow down the Trump campaign, throw stuff at him, it's unconstitutional.
00:06:15.000So here's my fear, Congressman, and you guys have been doing a great job of holding the line: is that we are not running out of time is not necessarily the best way.
00:06:24.000Is that usually in these moments, there's panic and that there is hysteria and we lose focus.
00:06:31.000And so the Democrats need to know we mean business.
00:06:35.000And the Democrats want a completely and totally wide open border.
00:06:39.000They want blank checks for Ukraine, and they obviously want money to be able to go to Jack Smith.
00:06:44.000So, Congressman, what tactics are you going to try to use or have our audience use during this upcoming legislative fight so that we can at least get some victories?
00:06:58.000And are you potentially willing to shut down the government?
00:07:02.000So there are three camps here, Charlie.
00:07:14.000There is another group of Republicans that doesn't really want to, but they have always been stewed in the juices that you have to stay on the team.
00:07:22.000No matter what the leaders of the team do, you've got to stay on the team and you've got to go.
00:07:26.000There is another cohort here of which I'm a part, and it is not huge, but it is sizable enough.
00:07:34.000We saw it in January that is making clear we are not going to allow business as usual to prevail.
00:07:42.000We are not going to sign on to a clean CR.
00:07:46.000We are not going to have any kind of a CR that extends out months and months.
00:07:55.000And the other part, frankly, Charlie, is there are a number of things I think that could be done that would represent real progress for the American people that would be acceptable to me, and they're not that complicated.
00:08:06.000It's just a question of deciding that you're going to act, finally breaking through the resistance of this place.
00:08:13.000And that requires a mental adjustment on the part.
00:08:59.000So marching orders here, Dan, as we close, how can the audience help?
00:09:03.000Where can the grassroots be the most effective as we loom towards 930?
00:09:08.000Keep letting your congressman know that the status quo is not acceptable.
00:09:14.000Whatever they do, whatever is going to happen, that is not the choice.
00:09:19.000They cannot say, well, we really wanted to get something substantial changed, but we're just at the end of the day, we just couldn't do it.
00:09:32.000No more capitulations in the moments like the debt ceiling negotiation, where when you're in divided government, it's the only way to make any kind of a step forward is to say, we are going to do this and nothing's going to get resolved until you agree.
00:14:27.000Then out of left field, while Texas is being invaded, while Donald Trump is facing 500 years in federal prison, while you have local DAs that are acting in complete rogue fashion, where does the Texas legislature spend their time?
00:14:45.000Not building a border wall, not talking about the restoration of Texan sovereignty.
00:14:53.000No, the Texas legislature all of a sudden launches an impeachment of Republican duly elected Ken Paxton out of the blue.
00:15:05.000You got to wonder, is that the Bush striking back?
00:15:07.000The Bushes didn't get the AG office before, and then they strike back in this way.
00:15:12.000And they start this show trial, and it passed the House, and now the trial is basically over in the Senate.
00:15:19.000The vote could happen any day now, any day, to try to overturn the will of the Texas voters.
00:15:28.000The attorney represented the quote-unquote whistleblowers is a long-term, long-time Bush ally.
00:15:34.000Now, I won't say any names, but I was recently in Lubbock, Texas, and I met a very polite, And I think by all accounts, good man who's a state representative in Texas in the Lubbock area.
00:17:13.000Listen, as students begin heading back to school, do you think they'll be learning about the founding principles that made America the freest, most prosperous nation in history?
00:17:20.000Will they learn that our unalienable rights are God-given and not granted by government?
00:17:24.000Will they be given a full and honest account of our nation's history?
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00:18:37.000And yeah, we really enjoyed having you out here in Idaho and I hope to see you again soon.
00:18:43.000New Mexico, I can't even believe what this governor did.
00:18:48.000Late last Friday afternoon, I got word from one of our attorneys that she had issued Governor Grisham, that is, had issued an executive order banning the carrying of any firearms anywhere in the city of Albuquerque or anywhere where the crime rate had exceeded a certain predetermined threshold, which she said constituted a public health emergency.
00:19:11.000This is why we said it was so dangerous during the COVID years that these governors were using this public health emergency to justify all kinds of government overreach.
00:19:23.000And we sprang into action within less than 24 hours.
00:19:26.000By Saturday evening, we had filed a federal lawsuit against the governor.
00:19:32.000We just had a hearing yesterday and we were successful in getting a federal judge to issue a temporary restraining order against the governor's order, which was a huge victory.
00:19:45.000Both Democrats and Republicans have come out strongly against Governor Grisham.
00:19:51.000Her own attorney general, Raul Torres, who's a Democrat that served in the Obama Department of Justice, actually sent a letter to her.
00:20:01.000the day before the hearing saying, I'm not going to defend you against this lawsuit in court.
00:20:05.000My oath that I swore to uphold and defend the Constitution takes precedence over any obligation I have to defend you in court.
00:20:13.000So I want to play some pieces of tape.
00:20:15.000Your great work, by the way, Brian, and let's just go through it one by one.
00:20:19.000Here is the quote and then her action.
00:20:21.000The First and Second Amendment does not exist when I say so during an emergency.
00:20:40.000And that is, if there's an emergency and I've declared an emergency for a temporary amount of time, I can invoke additional powers.
00:20:50.000No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute.
00:20:57.000There are restrictions on free speech.
00:20:59.000There are restrictions on my freedoms.
00:21:01.000In this emergency, this 11-year-old and all these parents who have lost all these children, they deserve my attention to have the debate about whether or not in an emergency, we can create a safer environment.
00:21:18.000So Brian, this is, I don't want to say unprecedented because we saw it during COVID, but this is the governor of New Mexico just saying I can wave a pen and get rid of people's rights.
00:21:53.000Again, the Democrat Attorney General, who said the exact same thing.
00:21:58.000And to David Urias, again, appointed by Biden just recently.
00:22:03.000He's a federal judge appointed by Biden.
00:22:05.000And regardless of whether he's a Democrat, Republican, what he believes, he said in open court yesterday that he is bound to uphold the Second Amendment and the decision of the United States Supreme Court in Bruin just last year, which clearly stated, emphatically stated, that there is an individual right to bear arms both inside the home and outside the home.
00:22:26.000And Charlie, what they said in that decision specifically is you can't designate certain areas, certain cities as sensitive places in order to take away the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
00:22:41.000So it's almost like Governor Grisham saw that in the Bruen decision, circled it and said, yeah, that right there, that's what I'm going to do.
00:22:51.000I want to play more tape here because it's worth really examining this.
00:22:56.000Here's a reporter asking, if someone's got a concealed carry permit in Albuquerque, walking on a public street, they're not going to get arrested.
00:23:14.000If someone's got a concealed carriage forbid in Albuquerque walking down a public street, they're not going to get arrested.
00:23:21.000I can make the point that maybe they should be.
00:23:25.000Because if you're not horrified that on any street corner in too many cities in New Mexico, there is someone with a gun sticking out of their waist or their belt.
00:23:42.000But we won't be able to arrest all of them.
00:24:01.000And it's very interesting when you go to Legacy Church, you know, you have these little old ladies, five foot two, amazingly patriotic, faithful Hispanic grandmothers, and they have their little purses and they all have guns in them because they need it.
00:24:19.000So the governor of New Mexico wants to go arrest a bunch of five foot two Hispanic grandmothers because they carry a firearm so that some thug doesn't try to rob them or rape them.
00:24:34.000Our individual plaintiffs, so we were the lead plaintiff in this lawsuit, but our individual plaintiff, Dennis Smith, is a retired citizen of Albuquerque.
00:24:42.000He's lived there for 40 years, frequents public spaces, public parks, and he openly admits, he's like, listen, I'm not getting any younger.
00:24:54.000And he was just saying in our press conference yesterday after the hearing that he's seen his neighborhood just deteriorate into all kinds of things.
00:25:01.000I mean, he's got not just, you know, obviously criminals and drug cartel and illegals that are pouring over the border there, as you know, Charlie.
00:25:09.000He said there's even wild dogs, coyotes, everything running around his neighborhood.
00:25:14.000He said, I don't feel safe even stepping out on my front porch without my weapon.
00:25:19.000And you're going to take away his ability to protect himself, this guy who's been, like I said, living there 40 years as a retired citizen.
00:25:26.000And these little old ladies, like you said, at Legacy Church, you're going to take away their ability to defend themselves against some thug who's come over the border illegally, a member of the drug cartel or whatever.
00:25:39.000And you're going to say ordinary citizens can't protect themselves.
00:25:42.000No, you know what's happening here as well as I do.
00:25:44.000They know that a disarmed population is a population that they can control much more easily.
00:25:50.000They're trying to take weapons out of the hands of law-abiding citizens.
00:25:53.000They're not doing anything to take the weapons out of the hands of the criminals.
00:26:58.000The governor made it clear in her press conference.
00:27:00.000She knew we as law enforcement did not agree with the order.
00:27:04.000And as a result, this was solely her decision.
00:27:09.000Other than this ban being unconstitutional, I'm a law enforcement professional.
00:27:13.000This order will not do anything to curb gun violence other than punish law-abiding citizens from their constitutional right to self-defense.
00:27:23.000Thank you, Founding Fathers, for being so clear with the Second Amendment.
00:27:26.000Brian, tell us more about we, the Patriots, what you're doing, you know, the great work that you are advancing, and also just final reactions on the autocrat from New Mexico.
00:28:14.000If you go to our content at the top of the page, you'll see that.
00:28:16.000Please subscribe to our email list so you can stay up to the date and the latest developments in this case because we do have another hearing going back to court October 3rd.
00:28:24.000This was just a temporary restraining order.
00:28:26.000We have to have a hearing on the preliminary injunction to see if we can have a more permanent moratorium on this executive order.
00:28:33.000But I would encourage everyone, if you can, I know times are tough.
00:28:36.000If you can support us to give us a donation for our legal efforts, there's a donate button right at the top.
00:28:41.000We even have a Second Amendment legal fund because we're actually trying to build a litigation machine to fight back against all of these encroachments against our right to defend ourselves because that's really what it is.
00:29:04.000I put her right up there in the category of like Gretchen Whitmer, Kathy Hochul.
00:29:08.000I mean, she is just so over the line here and so egregious in her abuse of her authority, really her abuse of her office, that it's unconscionable.
00:29:19.000And we need to be, we need to stand ready to defend that.
00:29:22.000So that's why we encourage any support we can get.
00:29:24.000And I thank you so much, Charlie, for having me on, allowing me to talk about this case and our work.
00:29:50.000They need to be able to declare states of emergency to give themselves more power.
00:29:57.000And we've been very critical when governors do that, when governors put forward mask mandates, when governors say that you can't have more than two people on a boat where you can't go to school, or when presidents do it.
00:30:09.000So what happens when a Republican governor does it?
00:30:15.000Brian Kemp coming out and declaring a state of emergency over inflation does not potentially infringe on your natural rights nearly as close as the lunatic from New Mexico.
00:30:27.000It's not the same thing, but I still don't like it.
00:30:31.000I still do not like overusing the declaration of emergency to get what you want.
00:30:41.000So yesterday, Brian Kemp, in kind of a silly, you know, slapstick way, comes out and he says, inflation is a state of emergency.
00:30:59.000I'm talking about a principled argument.
00:31:02.000Are we not just playing into this idea that you can somewhat arbitrarily sign a declaration of emergency when things are not going your way?
00:31:14.000We've been very critical when Democrats do that.
00:31:17.000Here is Brian Kemp 91 talking about that he is going to unilaterally, he has the legal authority to do this, just say inflation is an emergency, therefore no more gas taxes.
00:31:32.000We saw this news hit during this program yesterday that you're declaring a state of emergency for Georgia because of these rising prices.
00:31:41.000What does that allow you to do for the residents of your state?
00:31:47.000Well, we suspended the collection of the motor fuel or gasoline or diesel fuel tax yesterday to help hardworking Georgians fight through Bidenomics.
00:31:57.000We're trying to keep a few dollars more in people's pocket by allowing them not to pay the 31 cents a gallon for gasoline or 35 cents a gallon for diesel fuel in the great state of Georgia.
00:32:08.000Now, so you're willing to use emergency powers.
00:32:12.000Why don't you use emergency powers to fire Fannie Willis, Brian Kemp?
00:32:18.000Fannie Willis is a far greater emergency to the Constitutional Republic than even inflation.
00:32:26.000And inflation is a big problem right now, no doubt.
00:32:29.000Fannie Willis represents a much greater threat to the constitutional order, to our traditions, to the country.
00:32:38.000And so here's another question, Brian Kemp.
00:32:39.000Why don't you just put the legislature together and then repeal the gas tax?
00:32:42.000Why do you have to do this unilaterally?
00:32:44.000Are you afraid that if you call a special session of the legislature that Fannie Willis might be brought up?
00:32:54.000This is Brian Kemp, who doesn't actually call the special session when necessary to hold Fannie Willis accountable, but he's willing to do it because of gas prices.
00:33:06.000And I'm sure some of you in Georgia are thrilled about it.
00:33:08.000You say, you know, we're going to get more money in our pocket.
00:33:11.000And look, I don't even think gas taxes should exist.
00:33:29.000The emergency in America is our invasion on our southern border and out-of-control political prosecutors shredding the United States Constitution on a daily basis.
00:33:42.000Those are some emergencies happening right now.
00:33:46.000And instead, Brian Kemp is saying, well, I'm willing to declare an emergency when it comes to gas taxes.
00:33:56.000I think we have to be very, very careful using emergency use authorization powers.