00:02:03.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:02:11.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:03:43.000We're going to address that in a second.
00:03:45.000Tucker checks off the boxes that make RFK appealing as vice president, but he comes with a rock-solid conservative credential, especially on COVID.
00:03:55.000Donald Trump's the only attack vector.
00:03:59.000There's two attack vectors that the base might have against Trump that could maybe result in a point or two point or three point tapering off.
00:04:09.000The first of which is the personnel that President Trump put into office.
00:04:14.000In fact, with RFK, RFK said, Well, you know, I didn't like that, you know, Trump put John Bolton in his administration.
00:04:20.000I said, I agree, you know, John Bolton should be deported.
00:04:59.000I mean, I've seen Tucker in a private and public and interview setting.
00:05:03.000He can go from sensitive in a second to be intense and almost defensive of whatever he might be talking about on a dime, in a good way.
00:05:14.000Tucker's positive personality traits offsets maybe what some people would characterize as Trump's bullying characteristics.
00:05:22.000Number six, Trump has a great wife and kids and no skeletons in his closet.
00:05:27.000We would have heard those by now because they try to take him off.
00:05:30.000The worst thing is that Tucker Carlson texted something saying that white men don't fight like that.
00:05:35.000Well, Tucker was right, and Tucker's popularity is stronger than ever.
00:05:39.000And we know that at Amfest, and I can get some idea, you know, being an event organizer and being in the movement, I can tell you who the grassroots want by two things.
00:05:51.000I could say, as soon as we announce a speaker, I can see who has a spike in tickets, and I can see who fills a room.
00:05:58.000You know, we track how many seats are filled.
00:06:00.000Now, mind you, we oversell the event versus seats because people are, you know, they're milling around, or some people come for a day or two, or some people go to the VIP hall, or some people go to the exhibit hall.
00:06:09.000And we're experts at this at Turning Point USA.
00:06:12.000It's almost like filling seats on an airplane, right?
00:06:15.000You oversell it, and you know that some people aren't going to show up.
00:06:18.000We have a whole very secret equation, by the way, that we work there.
00:06:25.000When Tucker is there, we run out of seats.
00:06:29.000Every time, when Tucker is there, we run out of seats.
00:06:35.000Number seven, Tucker deflates and disarms the Democrat lawfare strategy.
00:06:39.000The administrative state is trying to destroy Trump, not just because of he personally represents, but because of his historic movement.
00:06:46.000Tucker is like having Tom Brady on your bench.
00:06:48.000Consequently, as a Democrat strategist, why would I devote valuable Democrat resources to removing Trump from the starting lineup when there's another Hall of Famer on the bench?
00:06:59.000It almost has to choose their poison, not to mention the get-out-the-vote advantage that Tucker would give you.
00:07:07.000You have Donald Trump, who is a get-out-the-vote machine of low-prop voters.
00:07:13.000And then you have Tucker, who is also a get-out-the-vote machine, especially with younger voters.
00:07:19.000Tucker would help you compete on college campuses and with younger voters.
00:07:24.000And with Rana Mick Romney running the RNC, by the way, we're going to talk about this later in the hour.
00:07:29.000Not only do they have historically low cash on hand, they're still spending your money that you send to the RNC extravagantly on limos, on flowers, even though they have historically low cash on hand.
00:07:45.000So we need a vice president that can heal some of the damage the RNC has done because we need a one-man or two-man get-out-the-vote operation.
00:07:59.000Now, if, if, if, and I pray not Trump is thrown in jail by some way, Tucker can bring in similar huge Trump-like crowds.
00:08:07.000Now, this is a great buy one, get one free value for the America First movement.
00:08:13.000So the plan they have is Tucker and Trump pair up and the base steps up big time to take back our country.
00:08:19.000Thus, the campaign mission statement is pair up and step up.
00:08:23.000Number nine, Tucker obviously is great on TV, which is very important.
00:08:26.000It doesn't need to be, you know, stated.
00:08:29.000Tucker is also the perfect age for vice president.
00:08:31.000I want to riff on this because there's this story.
00:08:33.000By the way, this is the launching off point.
00:08:35.000It's the 10 candidates who should be vice president.
00:08:38.000And I'm going to complete my argument on Tucker and then we'll go to some of the other ones.
00:08:43.000But Gen X has been overlooked for far too long.
00:08:48.000Gen X is going to determine the 2024 election.
00:12:31.000Tucker appears to be well known overseas, unlike DeSantis' disastrous overseas trips.
00:12:36.000Crowds in Spain came out recently by the thousands to see Tucker.
00:12:40.000He's supportive of other nationalists in Hungary and Argentina.
00:12:44.000If he became vice president, that would be a great portfolio project for him, which would be to mend the fences of how Biden has turned his back on other nationalist movements and make this a Western movement.
00:13:00.000While Donald Trump is fixing the border and Donald Trump is rebuilding the American economy, go send Tucker Carlson on a speaking tour in Western Europe to make this populist nationalist movement continue.
00:13:38.000We are literally talking about people who are attempting to divide our country in the most crude, frankly, and profound way.
00:13:51.000We are talking about those who are intent and purposeful to attack fundamental freedoms, be it the freedom to make a decision about your own body, the freedom to love who you love openly and with pride, the freedom to be free from fear of violence and hate, the freedom to just be, the freedom to just be.
00:14:16.000Cue the Tucker Carlson laugh at that point in the vice presidential debate.
00:14:20.000Number 17, we said this yesterday, and we'll say it repeatedly.
00:14:23.000The narrative is being set for the assassination of Donald Trump.
00:14:28.000We said the three biggest threats to the deep state are Trump, Elon Tucker, Trump, Elon, Tucker.
00:14:35.000In my opinion, Tucker as vice president actually decreases the risk of assassination by the administrative state.
00:14:41.000From an optics narrative Overton window point of view, there's no way the deep state tries to assassinate both Trump and Tucker.
00:14:48.000It would wake up too many normy, low-information voters.
00:15:00.000Tucker understands that we are in the midst of a spiritual war.
00:15:03.000He understands the World Economic Forum, the World Health Organization, the Great Reset.
00:15:08.000Many of these other vice presidential candidates that I'm about to tell you about that Trump is considering, according to themessenger.com and a well-researched piece, they don't understand the global game.
00:15:20.000They haven't thought deeply about what is happening.
00:15:23.000Number 19, the America First movement will continue.
00:15:27.000I mentioned this, but also they could divide and conquer, and Tucker can explain the MAGA agenda throughout the presidency.
00:15:36.000Now, look, you might want to say, what are the negatives?
00:15:39.000The only negatives I can think of is that if Tucker were to be vice president, they would try to pin him to talk extensively about issues that might not be primary doctrine political issues.
00:15:50.000For example, a Tucker's opinion on JFK, which I believe the Intel agencies killed JFK, or UFOs, or whatever.
00:17:25.000So Donald Trump is the likely nominee.
00:17:28.000Now, I'm going to say something and then I want to put it aside, which is we have to anticipate that the Iowa and New Hampshire caucus primaries are going to be a little bit closer than polls reflect.
00:17:43.000I'm afraid that those of us that support Trump are falling for a trap that if Trump wins by 12, they're going to make it seem like a loss.
00:17:52.000We're going to put that aside and we're going to unpack that at a later date.
00:17:56.000But Donald Trump is almost certainly going to be the nominee.
00:18:00.000And according to this, themessenger.com, Trump's running mate, 10 possible choices as primary season looms.
00:18:23.000Senator JD Vance has been one of the most loyal senators defending Donald Trump in the Senate and defending, most importantly, the MAGA agenda.
00:18:34.000JD Vance is 39 years old, so he's just a couple years older than what you legally can be for President of the United States, vice president.
00:18:46.000JD Vance would help with younger voters, and some people say, but JD Vance is not necessarily as bombastic or attention-grabbing as Tucker Carlson.
00:18:55.000JD Vance would be if you wanted to go to stable, if you wanted to go to dependable, and if you wanted to go to try to win over voters that have a temperament of center right but want a return to normal.
00:19:13.000In some ways, it would be an opposite strategy of the Tucker strategy.
00:19:22.000The article says, quote, Vance has fashioned himself into a regular defender of Trump in the Senate with a low-key approach that Republicans say play well with the former president.
00:19:31.000But it's not clear how much Vance would bolster Trump's coalition heading into a hypothetical rematch with Joe Biden.
00:19:36.000He plays to the same Rust Belt populist Republican base, which Trump drew into the party and wouldn't soften Trump's image with suburban voters.
00:20:30.000Do you want kind of normal, like a, again, forgive me for this reference because I'm going to get, you know, spears thrown at me, like a Mike Pence in 2016, where you're just trying to solidify the Midwest bona fides?
00:20:46.000Or are you trying to do a Sarah Palin and do a game change?
00:20:52.000Now, Tucker Carlson is obviously far more vetted and gifted than Sarah Palin, but the philosophy of the 2008 McCain vice presidential pick is we have to do a game change.
00:21:02.000And that's where Sarah Palin was selected.
00:21:07.000And I'd love all your thoughts on this because I'm seeing the emails, freedom at charliekirk.com, pour in thousands and thousands of emails.
00:21:21.000And I don't think people realize or recognize, first and foremost, how accomplished he is in the medical field, how accomplished he was as a brain surgeon.
00:21:31.000Gifted hands, an amazing movie, incredible book.
00:21:34.000Ben Carson, before he decided to get into politics, was one of the most followed, respected, and liked people in American public life.
00:21:44.000He, of course, also ran the Secretary for Housing and Urban Development.
00:21:49.000And Ben Carson would help with a very real attack vector that the left is bubbling up right now, which is they're trying this Christian nationalist thing.
00:21:59.000They're trying to bring down the Christian support of Donald Trump.
00:22:03.000And they think that's going to help them win in Georgia and Arizona, where there are significant Christian populations.
00:22:07.000Ben Carson is loved in the evangelical community.
00:24:39.000Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Christy Noam, I think very interesting considerations.
00:24:42.000Number six, for obvious reasons, we're going to skip over because we spent half the show talking about Tucker Carlson, but I do want to read from the article.
00:24:50.000The two largely sympatico in politics and their public personas, although Carlson would likely serve as a better bridge to social conservatives for Trump.
00:24:56.000But Carlson wouldn't balance Trump's image heading into a general election and it most likely strike against him.
00:25:00.000That's where the messenger is completely and totally wrong.
00:27:09.000If you need to pick a woman, pick Sarah Huckabee Sanders or pick Christy Noam.
00:27:13.000And so if I were to kind of, from my inside information, if I were to say who is actually the ones that are being strongly considered from that list, Ben Carson, based on everything that I know, Ben Carson, JD Vance is absolutely being pushed.
00:27:29.000Tucker Carlson, Byron Donalds, Sarah Sanders, Christy Noam, and Stefanik.
00:28:27.000My takeaway is this: why don't we start thinking about the vice presidential pick as how we're going to win, not the one that looks the best based on identity politics?
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00:29:48.000The messenger piece kind of goes around here, and it's very clear that they're going to try to make a play, an infiltration, an insurgency to get a more moderate voice like Nimarata Haley on the vice presidential ticket.
00:30:02.000Tucker Carlson said at Amfest that if Donald Trump chose Nikki Haley as vice president, he would actively oppose it as a threat to the country.
00:31:45.000So the Warren court that got rid of prayer in public schools.
00:31:49.000Now, mind you, Earl Warren was one of the worst judges in U.S. history.
00:31:55.000And not only was it, not only did his court lead the repeal of prayer in schools, but forfeiting so many religious freedoms, destroyed a lot of protections and, let's just say, procedures of criminal justice, and modernizing, this is the most important thing, he modernized the administrative state.
00:32:17.000And so I would challenge RFK next time he comes on the program.
00:32:22.000One of RFK's main concerns is the administrative state.
00:32:28.000But understand the courts gave us the modern administrative state, not gave us, but the court could have struck down the bureaucracies as unconstitutional.
00:33:00.000But the indifference of the courts of the 60s and 70s, where they said, yeah, it's perfectly fine to have these unchecked bureaucracies, even though it's not in the Constitution, and they could do whatever they want and they can make laws and they can interpret their own laws and they're unelected and they're unknown and they have unlimited amounts of power.
00:33:16.000The courts play a significantly important role where the court could have come in in the 60s and said, you don't get all these agencies, guys.
00:33:35.000And so while RFK on our program said, I'm going to rein in the bureaucracies in the fourth branch of government, which I deeply appreciate and I agree with, he simultaneously undermines his argument when he says that his favorite Supreme Court justice is the one that defended the modern administrative state and deep state.
00:33:57.000I encourage you guys to watch that RFK Jr. interview in its entirety if you haven't already and text it to your friends.
00:34:05.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:34:09.000Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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