In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk is joined by Andrew Yang, who has not been a regular guest on the show since the early days of the show. They discuss the impact of the Big 'Big' $333 billion deficit reduction bill that passed the House of Representatives in February of 2011.
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00:01:50.000So you and I talked, obviously, February, March, April.
00:01:53.000I remember we DM back and forth, but I was just, as you know, I got pissed off about deficits, about the deficits, right, in the big, beautiful bill.
00:02:02.000And I was having a battle with Besson and Russ Vogt.
00:02:07.000And, you know, and so I just was negative, man.
00:02:10.000All I would have had to say was negative stuff about how there wasn't enough, there weren't enough spending cuts.
00:02:16.000So I just, I ducked out of the media scene for six months or so.
00:02:23.000We kind of went through our own journey and Charlie went through his own journey with the big, beautiful bill.
00:02:29.000And I think it really turned for him when we had Stephen Miller on the show.
00:02:34.000It was an extended conversation, like 30, 35 minutes, and it went viral, you know, kind of explaining the nuances of the bill, why Stephen Miller was in support of it.
00:02:44.000Obviously, he's part of the administration, so you've got to assume that he's, you know, going to say supportive things.
00:02:50.000But it was actually an incredibly compelling moment.
00:02:53.000And I remember that clip went viral and really helped galvanize a lot of the basis support for that bill.
00:02:59.000But listen, we understand everybody wanted less spending.
00:03:05.000Well, yeah, I was going to say I understood Besson's point the whole time, and I even tried to promote it.
00:03:10.000You know, I was giving them a fair shake.
00:03:11.000And what he was saying was basically this, you know, 300, I think the spending cut number, you know, for the first year was $156 billion.
00:03:20.000And his point was, look, if we cut $300 billion or $350 or $400 billion out of discretionary, it's actually going to take a 1% slice out of GDP.
00:04:34.000That's admirable because we do need people to care about that.
00:04:38.000We can't forget about it because people, it's the thing everyone in the country loves to just push under the rug, but the rug is getting very elevated at this point.
00:04:48.000But we wanted to have you on, Kane, because what Charlie loved talking to you about so much was you have those links out there.
00:04:57.000You see what people are clicking on, what they care about.
00:04:59.000You are an incredibly good vibes reader, as it were.
00:05:04.000And we've had a lot of discussion this last fall about what are the vibes on the right.
00:05:24.000And I'm going to make the distinction between the Twitter base and the base that never goes on Twitter unless they're on a link, you know, from CFP, people who don't have Twitter accounts.
00:05:34.000So again, the scared part, why is that?
00:05:36.000Well, it's always the same thing that we get our butts kicked in these special elections, in these off-year elections.
00:05:42.000And Charlie and I would go through that.
00:05:48.000And not, if you, I mean, you remember we lost, what, 13 straight of those special elect or Democrats overperformed in 13 straight.
00:05:56.000So anyway, they're scared because of that.
00:05:57.000And I'm going to play a clip from this was your first public appearance with Charlie and I in Detroit at our People's Convention last year.
00:06:19.000And so we need to engage in every legal way we possibly can to make it too big to rig.
00:06:24.000And Kane, if our elections were actually honest and secure, what would the result end up being?
00:06:29.000I want people to understand what Turning Point Ashton, Turning Point USA has been doing over the last six months regarding chasing the vote.
00:06:54.000Hey, Kane, if you can hear me, I'm not sure if you're with us or if we're reconnecting you, but I actually, you and I reconnected recently, and I was telling you, I've gotten a bunch of emails at freedom at charliekirk.com saying, where's Citizen Free Press?
00:08:15.000And so, they are going to reconvene Monday afternoon to begin consideration of House Bill 1032.
00:08:22.000And the redesign would likely eliminate Indiana's two Democratic-held congressional districts to create a 9-0 Republican map ahead of 2026.
00:08:32.000The House approved the redistricting bill as expected on a vote 57 to 41.
00:08:37.00012 Republicans joined all Democrats in opposition.
00:08:40.000But Senate President Pro Tem Roderick Bray has warned that there are not enough votes to move that idea forward.
00:08:48.000And so, what's happening in the background here is that groups like Turning Point Action and others, there's a big coalition that is building and forming.
00:08:56.000We are going to have congressional-level spending going after to primary these senators in Indiana to get them more in alignment with their base voters.
00:09:07.000The base voters in Indiana want this new map.
00:09:10.000Kane, do you, yeah, I've transitioned since you've been gone to this new redistricting map.
00:09:16.000There is a huge, huge push going on right now.
00:09:20.000How do people feel about redistricting Indiana and across the country?
00:09:23.000They're incredibly pissed off in Indiana that the Indiana Senate is blowing all this smoke.
00:09:27.000As you probably mentioned, the vote was 5741 in the House, Indiana House, just on Friday, right?
00:09:33.000And that was with 10 or 11 Democrats or Republicans defecting and voting with Democrats.
00:09:37.000There's going to be hell to pay if the Indiana Senate doesn't approve this thing.
00:09:42.000In that political article, they say that Mike Johnson's been making phone calls and don't bet on this outcome yet.
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00:11:01.000Blake will remember that when you have a solidly red state that gets kind of out, it's left out on an island of its own.
00:11:08.000We're not focusing on it during a presidential year because it's not a swing state.
00:11:11.000What happens is these incumbent political parties and machines are able to keep existing.
00:11:17.000They kind of just hide in the shadows, and you get this misalignment between the base voters that are consuming content at citizen-free press that are consuming content on this show.
00:11:27.000They get misaligned with the base voters and the political class.
00:11:31.000And that's what you're having in Indiana, where you have these weak, squishy senators that are standing in the way of what the base wants.
00:11:46.000There's, how do you know that these people are this way, that they're this squishy, that they're going to react this way to a simple redistricting?
00:11:54.000So it caught, you know, I think it surprised the voters.
00:11:58.000You know, Indiana is a big pro-Trump state.
00:12:01.000We've been plus 20 or so for the last two elections.
00:12:04.000I mean, we sent Evan Bai packing again, you know, when he thought he could waltz back in for a senate seat.
00:12:11.000So anyway, this is a strong Trump state.
00:12:13.000And it's shocking that the, you know, that so many of the state senators are this out of touch.
00:12:19.000Again, as I sort of said before we went to break, you know, calls have been made.
00:12:23.000There's been pressure that has been applied this weekend.
00:12:26.000So, you know, I'm watching it by the hour on local TV.
00:12:29.000So we're going to see how the Senate, how this sort of plays out.
00:12:32.000I think we have a chance, you know, to eliminate.
00:12:34.000And last thing I'll say before throwing it back, one of the two Democrat seats is held by Andre Carson.
00:12:40.000He's done nothing in his life except serve under his mom.
00:12:44.000His mom, I forget her name, but she was a congresswoman from Indianapolis for 50 years.
00:12:48.000She died like in her 80s or 90s in the last, I don't know, let's say 10, 15 years ago.
00:12:53.000And our son has just swooped into the stick into that seat.
00:12:56.000So it'll be wonderful to get him out of Congress.
00:12:59.000I got to ask you, Kane, what about this Indiana state senator, Michael Bohachek, that says he will oppose redistricting because Trump said the R word?
00:17:37.000I'm angry that Notre Dame is throwing a temper tantrum.
00:17:40.000And so, one, they turned down the Catholics versus Mormon ball, but they also turned down specifically, it is the Pop-Tart ball in which they literally sacrifice the Pop-Tart.
00:17:51.000They lower the mascot into the giant toaster oven, and then they consume the mascot.
00:18:22.000They had the ESPN reporter on scene yesterday, and she said people were walking, the players were walking out with their heads down.
00:18:28.000They feel like they called it a farce, right?
00:18:31.000The whole deal for people who don't know is suddenly Miami jumped BYU in the rankings.
00:18:35.000So they were comparing Miami dead on with Notre Dame.
00:18:39.000And they decided in that comparison that Miami gets the bid because Miami beat them in the first or second game of the season, head to head.
00:18:47.000So, and that pissed off Notre Dame fans because in the preceding, you know, college football puts out, the committee puts out rankings once a week, separate from AP and the coaches poll.
00:18:58.000And Notre Dame had been ranked ahead of Miami.
00:19:00.000So they fell in with what they call a false sense of security that they were going to get the bid.
00:19:17.000I remember when it was only, you know, they only had the national title game and there was no playoff and people would complain.
00:19:23.000Oh, unfair things caused people to leap.
00:19:25.000And we can fix this if we have a four-team playoff.
00:19:28.000And then teams didn't, they'd complain about how unfair they didn't get in the final four.
00:19:32.000And now they're like, we made 12 teams.
00:19:34.000Every remotely plausible national champion will get in.
00:19:37.000And they're still throwing a huge temper tantrum.
00:19:40.000And I would say, Notre Dame, if you want to not throw a temper tantrum about how it's unfair to overtake you, win all your games or join a conference that you can win and get another win in the final week of the season.
00:19:53.000All right, we have to go because we're running out of time.
00:19:55.000Citizen Free Press, you guys have to visit it, make it your homepage.
00:22:30.000But the other big one that kind of was making waves this weekend is what's happening in Europe.
00:22:36.000Of course, with the DSA, the Digital Services Act, which was put in place in 2023, and it affects, I would believe, censorship.
00:22:44.000X was one of the, if not the only, major social media platform that has defied DSA, and they got a big fine of 140 million dollars, 120 million euros over the weekend that was announced.
00:22:57.000Elon Musk is raging about it, calling it BS, but not using the acronym.
00:23:03.000What is going on here, Will, and what are the implications for us here in the United States?
00:23:08.000Yeah, so the EU Commission has fined X for $140 million.
00:23:12.000They claim that giving out the verified check to anybody who pays $8 a month for it is deceptive.
00:23:21.000Now, that's not true because Elon Musk and X have been extremely transparent in how they've structured the verified program.
00:23:27.000If anything, it was the prior administration that was totally deceptive with how they were handing out blue checks.
00:23:36.000They're also going after Elon for refusing to hand over X's proprietary API data so that European researchers can go through it for free and figure out what's wrong with X. All this is, I think, part of what maybe Americans have sort of are sort of waking up to, which is that there's this discordance between the European Union and NATO.
00:23:58.000You know, when European countries put on their NATO hats, they're extraordinarily grateful for the Transatlantic Alliance being under the American security umbrella.
00:24:06.000When they put on their EU hat, they're part of an adversarial trade bloc that wants to exert leverage over the United States and American companies.
00:24:14.000And I don't think we should have to put up with that.
00:24:16.000And I think that the EU, the Europeans need to make a choice whether they prefer being under the American security umbrella or antagonizing American companies because we're not going to put up with both.
00:24:36.000I mean, and what are the implications for our free speech, if that is true?
00:24:41.000Well, there's some sites that haven't that are kind of only based in the United States, but that hasn't stopped European regulators from going after them.
00:24:47.000For example, I believe it's 4chan was sent letters by Ofcom, the UK's independent regulator, trying to tell them that they needed to start censoring speech, but that obviously would be in violation of their First Amendment rights under the Constitution.
00:25:00.000So they're telling the UK to go pound sand, but it does create this fundamental problem and imbalance where there's no cost to these European countries going after the United States.
00:25:14.000And that's, I think that, and we have to spend a lot of money defending ourselves.
00:25:18.000So I think there's a good lawyer by the name of Preston Byrne who's proposed something called the Granted Act that's already been taken up in the state of Wyoming.
00:25:25.000And we're hearing from the Department of State that they're looking at a federal granted act.
00:25:28.000And the idea is that anytime a European sovereignty makes a threat against an American company that would threaten them if they don't censor their speech, they immediately have a private right of action here in the United States to sue that sovereignty or that company for three times the amount of the threat, which I think is the right way to go.
00:25:45.000I think the European Union is vastly overplaying its hand legally here.
00:25:49.000They are far more dependent on access to United States markets.
00:25:52.000They're far more dependent on United States security cooperation than we are on them.
00:25:57.000And so we shouldn't, and I don't think we will put up with their continued threats to our free speech.
00:26:03.000Yeah, I just want to drive home how despicable this is.
00:26:07.000A lot of people don't realize how Europe works.
00:26:11.000So for example, this fine came from the European Commission.
00:27:18.000So let's become a, quote, regulatory superpower where we just pass laws and we boss people around and in this case, literally shake them down for money.
00:27:29.000And that's what Europe is reduced to because they aren't innovative.
00:28:48.000Like it'll at least make it clear where we stand here.
00:28:51.000You know, like, oh, you guys are actually antagonistic adversarial nations like China instead of supposedly friendly allied nations in fellow inheritors of Western civilization.
00:29:08.000And this was near and dear to Charlie's heart, by the way.
00:29:11.000This is one of the themes of the last year, especially when he visited the UK with Blake and some of the other team.
00:29:17.000But it was an acknowledgement that the fundamental relationship of our transatlantic allies, the inheritors, as you said, of Western civilization, are finding themselves increasingly out of alignment about basic things like free speech.
00:29:31.000You've heard JD Vance talk about this, Senator Mark, or Senator, goodness gracious.
00:29:36.000State Department is now, Marco Rubio is going after them as well and saying there's a misalignment here.
00:29:42.000And how do we get that alignment back into a place where we can all say, hey, you know, we can actually shake hands and we're rowing in the same direction here.
00:29:51.000So Secretary of State Rubio has a role to play here.
00:29:55.000What are the levers that we can now push back against our friends across the Atlantic?
00:30:01.000So as I mentioned, the Granted Act is a good lever.
00:30:03.000We want to give individuals who are threatened by European censors a private right of action here and eliminate European sovereign immunity for lawsuits here in the United States.
00:30:12.000So if one of these European actors decides that they want to go after an American citizen, we can say you're both that you don't have any sovereign immunity and you're personally liable.
00:30:21.000So we can go after any of your assets in the United States.
00:30:26.000I think step two is actually a broader recognition that the European Union and its continued existence is actually antithetical to American interests.
00:30:34.000The idea behind the European Union is to create increased bargaining leverage by European countries against the United States.
00:30:41.000And again, if they were, if they want to be adversarial to the United States, fine, but then they should have to do without our military protection.
00:30:48.000And so we should see, we know that the EU isn't just hostile to America.
00:30:53.000It's also hostile to conservative countries within the European Union, the way they're hostile to Hungary, hostile to Poland, hostile to Italy, making demands of them to accept more migrants.
00:31:05.000I think American policy and diplomatic policy should be to foster and lift up those countries that are pushing back against the European Union, to help them leave if they want to leave, to provide monetary incentives for them to leave and to make side deals with the United States.
00:31:18.000We should have, you know, as long until the EU gets its act right and makes clear that it wants to be America's friend as opposed to America's antagonist economically, then we should go ahead and be antagonistic towards them and maybe bring Hungary and Poland and Italy and the Czech Republic into some side alliance and allow them to leave the EU.
00:31:35.000Blake, your reaction to that idea is a creative solution here.
00:31:39.000I mean, I am basically happy with anything that restores real European countries that reflect real European peoples as opposed to this European Union-bloated monstrosity, which it really, I know Charlie hated the word democracy, but I'm going to apply it to Europe here.
00:31:56.000The entire point of the European Union is to make globalist neoliberalism totally immune from actual democratic pressures.
00:32:05.000It's entirely designed to make it so what the globalist agenda is is not able to be stopped by anyone because it's too separated, it's too immune from immediate voter pressure, and it's too complex for most people to understand.
00:32:22.000And the time has come for us to shatter that apart.
00:32:26.000The European deep state is not the bureaucracy of France or Germany individually.
00:32:31.000It's this transnational project that elites have built.
00:32:37.000And the United States has a direct role to play in undercutting that and saying people should have a direct influence over what their countries are like.
00:34:08.000It reminds us that we're not as different as we may think.
00:34:10.000And that's what makes TikTok so powerful.
00:34:13.000It's a place where every post can turn into a conversation and every conversation can make a difference.
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00:34:24.000Will, tell us about the Article 3 project, how people can follow you, get involved with what you're doing.
00:34:30.000Yeah, so the Article 3 project is a political advocacy project.
00:34:33.000We do a lot of things to try and pressure Congress to essentially do the push for the Trump agenda, getting cabinet nominees confirmed, judges confirmed, or particularly focused on issues that touch in the judiciary, Article 3 and the namesake in the name would tell you that.
00:34:50.000You can find our various projects on a3paction.com, which will give you a way to directly contact your individual senator or representative with just a few clicks.
00:35:00.000We find that to be a very, very effective way to make your voice heard.
00:35:06.000We know that it worked wonders, especially during the Heck Seth confirmation when it looked like his confirmation might have been on ice.
00:35:12.000But the voice of the activists on the right and people who are willing to just send an email or two got their attention.
00:35:23.000And so, and yeah, that allows your viewers to immediately click and send a message directly to their senator or their representative with 30 seconds or a minute max on an issue that is pressing.
00:35:34.000And we use that to great effect during the Hag Seth confirmation and other of the more contested Senate confirmations to make clear where the base stood on a number of issues.
00:35:42.000And it really did a lot to sway senators and move them in the right direction.
00:36:11.000If you have to get into the legal weeds, we get it and why it's important.
00:36:14.000Well, we're at the Supreme Court already, which is good.
00:36:17.000And they took surgery before judgment on one of these cases, which they don't normally do, meaning the Supreme Court thinks it's really important.
00:36:23.000Basically, progressives are trying to pretend that there's no debate here at all, that this is a really simple question about the idea that if you're born in the United States, you're a citizen unless you're like the child of diplomats or the child of an invading army.
00:36:37.000But it's actually a little more complicated than that because the key, the decision, the case will turn on the meaning of the phrase subject to the jurisdiction of the idea being that you're not just a citizen if you're born here.
00:36:47.000You need to be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
00:36:50.000And there's a lot of really good authority that jurisdiction requires allegiance and it requires the permission of the sovereign to be here.
00:36:57.000So if you're the child of a lawful permanent resident, then sure, you get citizenship.
00:37:04.000But if you're the child of temporary visitors or legal aliens, you aren't and you shouldn't because the policy consequences of that are enormous and absurd.
00:37:12.000There's no way that any rational country would want to have a policy like that that induces illegal immigration.
00:37:19.000And I think it's really, you know, as much as the left wants to pretend that this is straightforward, it's anything but, and I think, honestly, I think we're going to win this one.
00:37:26.000I think the Supreme Court's going to come down on the side of saying that, you know, you're not entitled to citizenship if you're the child of illegal aliens.
00:37:32.000Will, you are the first person I think that we've had on this show that has sounded a vote of confidence.
00:37:38.000Blake is not so sure, or maybe you've changed your opinion, Blake.
00:37:52.000To be, yeah, I was going to say, to be very clear, Blake is very much of the same mind.
00:37:56.000I just think Blake is, it is one of those weird issues where if you go back to the framing of it and the drafting of the amendment, it was clearly written for slaves.
00:38:06.000It was clearly written for the children of slaves.
00:38:12.000And they even said, when you look at the debate notes in the notes from the Senate, that they were saying, of course, this wouldn't apply to foreigners and all this stuff.
00:38:20.000I will say, I will say I've been very impressed with the Trump administration's laying out of the history of it and really getting into what its origins are.