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00:01:09.000All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, January 30th, 2026.
00:01:14.000Just as an aside, my Twitter did get hacked yesterday.
00:02:17.000But shall we just start with reading Don Lemon's lawyer statement?
00:02:21.000Don Lemon was taken into custody by federal agents last night in Los Angeles, where he was covering the Grammy Awards.
00:02:28.000Don has been a journalist for 30 years, and his constitutionally protected work in Minneapolis was no different than what he has always done.
00:02:44.000There is no more important time for people like Don to be doing this work.
00:02:48.000Instead of investigating the federal agents who killed two peaceful Minnesota protesters, the Trump Justice Department is devoting its time, attention, and resources to this arrest.
00:02:57.000And that is the real indictment of wrongdoing in this case.
00:03:00.000The unprecedented attack on the First Amendment and transparent attempt to distract attention from the many crises facing this administration will not stand.
00:03:08.000Don will fight these charges vigorously and thoroughly.
00:03:11.000You can unpack like three or four different lies in this two paragraph statement.
00:03:15.000Like, So, first of all, just that line really galls me to protect journalists whose role is to shine light on the truth and hold those in power accountable.
00:03:22.000This guy was not haranguing a lawmaker, this guy was not disclosing classified documents.
00:03:27.000This guy went and joined a group of people who busted into a church during worship to harass a worship leader they say is involved with ICE.
00:03:36.000That is not holding people in power accountable, that is helping a bunch of people harass someone.
00:03:41.000And he's cheering it on as, oh, yeah, that's the price of protest, as all these kids sob.
00:03:46.000Well, that's that six year old who's crying in church.
00:03:49.000Yeah, you're really holding the powerful accountable, Don.
00:03:51.000Yeah, and there's that instance, but he actually on video kissed the lead protester, said, Thank you for your service, cheered them on.
00:04:17.000I kind of just doubt these people studied much.
00:04:19.000Yeah, I don't know if they studied anything.
00:04:21.000So, predictably, the media freakout is real, and it is being led by none other than Brian Stelter, fuming about his former colleague at CNN being arrested 503.
00:04:32.000A disturbing escalation against reporting in America.
00:04:35.000And I would also put it in the framework of protests.
00:04:38.000You know, this is part of an ongoing pressure campaign against protests, especially the kind of provocative anti Trump protest action.
00:04:45.000That we have seen makes the administration so uncomfortable.
00:04:48.000This is an action, this arrest of Don Lemon, this arrest of this independent journalist who is live streaming and reporting in Minnesota.
00:04:57.000This is something that some MAGA loyalists have been demanding.
00:04:59.000They've been wanting to see it happen.
00:05:01.000When Trump promised retribution, this is the kind of retribution that some of his voters, not all, but some of his voters, wanted to see.
00:05:08.000And I think that is, for better or for worse, some of the context for what we're seeing this morning.
00:06:20.000And just, yeah, like, You know, I think he might have a defense if it was a 100% neutral report and he's like, this mob is going in and like, I think people should see what's going on.
00:06:30.000It still might rub a lot of people the wrong way, but like, he would have a defense.
00:08:42.000It just proves that your whole life has been really, really privileged and really, really redeemed from previous eras and epics in which black people lived.
00:08:50.000Thank God that the closest any of us will ever be to slavery is being handcuffed in the back of a car when we commit crimes.
00:09:12.000You just need to stop because nobody cares.
00:09:14.000And by the way, if you're going to claim that you got an African American studies degree or whatever, we're going to really judge you because that's a stupid degree to get.
00:10:02.000But that's what makes what's happening in Minneapolis and around the country so disturbing, is because people are apparently willing to die.
00:10:12.000To protect illegal immigrants that have no business being in this country because they are brown coated and the law enforcement are white coated or imperialist versus colonialist versus oppressor versus oppressed.
00:11:01.000You know, I'm actually worried on that front.
00:11:03.000It's just been one thing after another.
00:11:06.000The left, we've seen this with the attacks on ICE, where the left will basically do jury nullification for someone who does a ramming attack on ICE officers.
00:12:40.000Charlie warned about it, which is one of the tragedies of tragedies.
00:12:44.000But for the ability to convince other people to sacrifice their lives for death by suicide, it would be one thing, but death by suicide by law enforcement is a whole other thing.
00:13:05.000We commend people that die in war for a righteous cause.
00:13:10.000And then there's people that will die for family.
00:13:13.000And what's interesting enough about this is that, you know, the left is a godless movement.
00:13:18.000They have abandoned God, they have distanced themselves from any types of traditional spirituality, in the most part.
00:13:25.000And what's fascinating is that they have been convinced to do so for immigration.
00:13:32.000For illegal immigrants, for illegal immigrant criminals that have been oftentimes found guilty of homicide, child rape, trafficking, drug trafficking.
00:13:45.000And it is a fascinating show because the CIA would be jealous of this.
00:13:50.000The color revolutionists that we have talked about in foreign countries would marvel at the ability to get so many people en masse to believe a lie.
00:14:01.000The left has managed to hijack traits of patriotism, faith, and family, three things that they actively oppose, yet they still understand that the power that could be wielded by these ties is so powerful, its motivation is so.
00:14:16.000Deep, that they come from these natural structures, these God given structures that we are all supposed to be behind, and they've hijacked them.
00:14:25.000And so they believe that they are in a literal physical war.
00:14:27.000Their religion of tolerance is under attack by the rule of law, by law and order, and they have substituted what is a real family, the nuclear family, the God given family, and now they talk about their comrades, the movement, the global citizenry, the oppressed, the marginalized.
00:16:28.000We didn't have AI, but it was the extreme vulnerability of people who should know better to this emotional manipulation of the left.
00:16:37.000It's an extremely powerful emotional manipulation machine to present you with images to make you feel bad, to really reinforce them with a lot of people all freaking out at the same time.
00:16:47.000And you get in this bubble that can last.
00:16:53.000And with Floyd, with Floyd Palooza, you remember, it took years to build up to that.
00:16:58.000It started like with Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and it would come and it would go and it would come and it would go and it would get more and more intense.
00:17:06.000And finally, they burned down half the country.
00:17:10.000And we're seeing it with this ice where I think they're building up this bigger psychosis.
00:17:14.000And I'm very worried about where that might end up, where they'll just get whipped up until finally some lunatic who sees, oh, Luigi Mangione is a hero and he's not even going to get executed.
00:17:38.000They're playing us off the same pattern.
00:17:40.000It's the same people that believed and fell for the BLM and the Black Square hoax, same people that believed in the pronouns in the bio, the believe all women, the defund police, the vax and mask if you love your neighbor.
00:18:06.000It's the same pattern to enrage, divide, to spread lies without anybody pushing back against them because the algorithm has already decided that that's not going to happen.
00:18:18.000Do not fall for the pattern, do not fall for the rage bait.
00:18:23.000Build up immunities, think critically.
00:18:25.000And I really believe that that's the key.
00:18:27.000We are losing our ability to think critically.
00:18:29.000And we have to call it out and hopefully see a revitalization of critical thinking skills and independent thinking.
00:18:39.000We are joined by Allie Beth Stuckey, host of Relatable Podcast, Blaze TV.
00:20:17.000And it goes on this commissar of MAGA morality targets other evangelicals whose empathy, she warns, has left them open to manipulation.
00:20:25.000Maybe they recognize the humanity of an undocumented immigrant family and decide that mass deportation has gone too far.
00:20:33.000Or they make space in their heart for a young rape survivor forced to carry a pregnancy to term and start questioning the wisdom and morality of total abortion bans.
00:20:45.000Yeah, you know, I just appreciate that she gave me two blatant examples of toxic empathy.
00:20:51.000We should see the humanity in an illegal immigrant because they're made in the image of God.
00:20:55.000That should not lead us to want to prohibit deportations or the enforcement of our common sense immigration law.
00:21:02.000We should have compassion for the rape survivor who is now pregnant.
00:21:06.000That should not lead us to support the death penalty for the baby.
00:21:10.000So, this is exactly my point that we should be having compassion for all different kinds of people, but that compassion should not lead us to affirm sin or support really destructive policy, both for our families and for our country.
00:21:23.000Thank you so much, Hillary, for being an example of that.
00:21:26.000Well, so this reminded me of a rant that, and please get me the clip, guys, the Greg Gutfeld rant.
00:21:34.000I can't find it right now, but it is so spot on.
00:21:37.000And actually, I said something similar yesterday reacting to the Bruce Springsteen clip.
00:21:42.000He's got this new song out in the streets of Minneapolis, and he's talking about we won't forget their names as they roam and kill the ICE agents.
00:21:50.000And we won't forget Renee Good and Alex Pretty.
00:21:54.000And it instantly occurred to me, Allie, that we have no songs for Lake and Riley.
00:22:27.000That they can venerate as saints and as martyrs.
00:22:30.000We saw that, of course, y'all talked about it with Anna Navarro saying that Alex Preddy was the kind of guy that you would want to bring home for your daughters.
00:22:39.000You can debate what actually happened when he lost his life without elevating him to this level that they elevated George Floyd, which was basically that he was a perfect person sent by God to show us what injustice really looks like.
00:22:51.000And they're not going to waste a tragedy.
00:22:53.000They're not going to waste a loss of life.
00:22:56.000They are going to use it to advance their cause, which is chaos.
00:23:01.000This audience knows everything about that.
00:23:03.000But they are going to leverage your natural compassion, your instinctive empathy to manipulate you into believing that supporting their policies is the only way to be a good person and advance the cause of justice.
00:23:15.000And I just want everyone this is the whole purpose of what I do, the purpose of my book to step back and say, I can see the humanity in Alex Preddy and Renee Good without supporting a policy that would lead to defunding the police or defunding ICE, that would lead to more Lake and Riley's and more Molly Tibbets's.
00:23:34.000And more Kate Steinleys because I love my neighbor.
00:23:38.000And by the way, Lakin Riley was my neighbor too.
00:23:41.000And because I care about her and I care about innocent life, I'm going to continue to support immigration enforcement.
00:26:23.000I remember when I woke up on June 2nd or 3rd in 2020, and I thought my Instagram was glitching because.
00:26:29.000I saw these black squares take over my feed, even from people who called themselves Christian conservatives.
00:26:34.000And maybe they had a Bible verse underneath, but some of them said, you know, Black Lives Matter.
00:26:39.000And the underlying common assumption in all of that was that George Floyd died because of systemic racism, because Derek Chauvin was racist.
00:26:46.000And the only question that I asked in my head and then later publicly was, how do I know that's true?
00:27:01.000You don't have any compassion for all of these innocent people who are being killed by the rioters.
00:27:06.000That's the definition of injustice, punishing someone for something that they did not do, which is exactly what happened with the chaos of 2020.
00:27:13.000And the same thing, of course, is happening today.
00:27:15.000Everyone feels the pressure to signal their virtue.
00:27:18.000And what bothers me is that people who never pipe up about politics, who never say anything about what's going on when Biden or Obama is president, all of the so called kids in cages, the minors separated from parents and lost under the Biden administration, now feel The urgency to say, Oh, I've got to pipe up about politics.
00:27:37.000I'm like, Look, there's a long list of injustices that occur when Trump is not president that I and others would have loved your voice on.
00:28:13.000It's that ability to just get, it's like hitting a light switch, the ability to get whipped up entirely selectively based on who's in office, what's on the news.
00:28:25.000And it cries out for a better psychological explanation.
00:29:02.000And when you put up a picture of a child in his little blue toboggan looking sad, standing alone with, you know, federal agents, that evokes something in you.
00:29:15.000Something good in your heart if you saw that picture and you're like, oh my gosh, that poor child.
00:29:20.000But when that is decontextualized and a completely fabricated narrative is attached to it, and that is what first circulates, it is really hard for me, for you, for anyone else to compete against an image, to compete against a picture with logic, with questions.
00:29:35.000Telling people to not allow their emotion to arrest their critical thinking is really hard because we are all, especially women, emotional creatures.
00:29:46.000And as we've talked about, as Charlie talked about so often, the Progressives don't have the same moral limits that we do.
00:30:12.000Well, you think about it, Ali, because you think, remember the Nicholas Sandman instance where it looked like this young MAGA, young.
00:30:22.000They said a mob surrounded an Indian elder and harassed him for no reason.
00:30:27.000And it took years and a massive lawsuit to clear his name.
00:30:32.000And I bet, despite that, there are still millions of left wingers and progressives that only get their news from one or two sources that still believe that he was attacking an Indian elder.
00:30:43.000And you think about that with Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:30:45.000There are still people who think Hands Up, Don't Shoot was true.
00:30:48.000And by the way, there are still people that think that, a lot of people, by the way, that think it was somebody from MAGA that killed Charlie.
00:30:55.000Because these lies are allowed to be perpetuated and they're not corrected.
00:30:59.000But it's the first lie, the first image that ends up making the biggest impact.
00:31:03.000And right, the lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to put on its pants.
00:31:08.000And that is really, I think, a tactic that is being weaponized and used because they know that it's effective.
00:31:14.000And to your point, they don't have the same restraints.
00:31:17.000I remember during some of the conspiracy theories that we were confronting, which, by the way, you've been amazing on with Ali, I got a question from a very prominent person online.
00:31:27.000And we were talking about, well, what do you do to confront them?
00:31:30.000And the question was posed to me how evil are you willing to be?
00:32:12.000The Ice Watch agitator aimed a weapon, aka her two ton SUV, at a federal officer who had previously been run over by an illegal alien and then accelerated, hitting him and reportedly causing internal bleeding.
00:32:24.000You'll learn that the traumatic city's church disruption was First Amendment protected speech, and on and on it goes.
00:32:59.0002022, it was Roe v. Wade being overturned when we had that flurry of lies about, oh, because of pro life legislation, women are dying in emergency rooms.
00:33:15.000And so I I feel like I've been through the ringer here.
00:33:18.000But the hopeful thing is that back in 2020, I felt like I was one of the only white female evangelicals who was like, oh, actually, I don't think I want to post a black square.
00:33:31.000And I was confronted by prominent Christian leaders that this is the wrong move.
00:33:48.000Sometimes it doesn't matter what the truth is.
00:33:50.000You just have to express your empathy.
00:33:52.000And that is where I was like, nope, that is leading us in a really, really bad direction because public messaging affects public opinion, which affects public policy, which affects the public.
00:34:05.000Like real lives are lost when we defund the police, when we exacerbate the riots and things like that.
00:34:10.000So, the encouraging part though is that now in 2026, six years later, I do feel when I look to my right and left, not politically, but when I look around, I see more people like me who have platforms who are willing to say, I'm not going to join in with that.
00:34:48.000There are more of us now than there were six years ago, and so we just got to keep pushing.
00:34:53.000Obviously, it's working, or Hillary Rodham Clinton would not be taking out 6,000 words in the Atlantic to try to urge women back into her folds of toxic empathy.
00:35:05.000By the way, I'm going to be giving a full response to Hillary Clinton later today on my channel, but obviously, they're scared, and so we got to keep slugging.
00:35:14.000Yeah, the best hope I can have is maybe you think of how television impacted people when it first came along and it fried a lot of brains.
00:35:24.000You look at an old propaganda reel in World War II, and if you watch it today, you think, this is really stupid.
00:35:45.000People who maybe entirely grow up in it will hopefully get used to the manipulation tactics it uses.
00:35:51.000And we have to hope that because, as you say, it's not just that they're easily propagandized, it's also a really dark thing the flattening of what maybe we call it like flattening of your moral register, where it's very common for people on social media to basically view a bad social media take or something they disagree with as equal or worse in moral heinousness to actually killing somebody, to actually committing a real life atrocity.
00:36:19.000Canceled off social media who faced far worse effects on their lives than someone who committed a crime in real life where they'll get a moral cause in their favor.
00:36:28.000And oh, we need to make sure this person gets back on their feet.
00:37:20.000Yeah, you know, Blake, you just made such good points, both of you, but that flattening of.
00:37:26.000Like virtue and morality is why empathy should not be your guide, why moral truth has to be your guide, why virtue has to be your guide.
00:37:36.000It's not about getting rid of compassion, it's allowing your compassion to be guided by what is true, what is logically, factually true, but also what is biblically true.
00:37:46.000You can get exhausted by over untethered empathy, but God's ways stay the same.
00:37:52.000And if you follow that, you'll be headed in the right direction.