The Charlie Kirk Show - January 30, 2026


Hillary Clinton Is Back, And She's Going After Allie Beth Stuckey


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Don Lemon has been arrested and is facing federal charges for his reporting on anti-Trump protests in Los Angeles. What does this mean for our democracy and freedom of the press? What does it mean for Bitcoin and the future of the financial system? Today's show is sponsored by Preserve Gold.

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, January 30th, 2026.
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00:01:34.000 All right, so Don Lamont has been arrested.
00:01:38.000 Yes.
00:01:39.000 Yes, I know.
00:01:41.000 And I woke up to this news without even looking into any of the reaction.
00:01:46.000 I didn't see a single reaction.
00:01:48.000 And I knew it was going to say that this is an assault on the freedom of the press.
00:01:55.000 Possibly an assault on their democracy?
00:01:57.000 My democracy?
00:01:58.000 No.
00:01:59.000 Our democracy.
00:02:01.000 That this is something you see in Russia.
00:02:03.000 That this has been imported by the fascists in the White House and everything's out of control.
00:02:10.000 A high escalation.
00:02:10.000 No.
00:02:11.000 Okay.
00:02:12.000 Guys, none of this is true.
00:02:15.000 None of it is remotely true.
00:02:17.000 But shall we just start with reading Don Lemon's lawyer statement?
00:02:21.000 Don Lemon was taken into custody by federal agents last night in Los Angeles, where he was covering the Grammy Awards.
00:02:28.000 Don has been a journalist for 30 years, and his constitutionally protected work in Minneapolis was no different than what he has always done.
00:02:36.000 Hmm.
00:02:37.000 The First Amendment exists to protect journalists whose role it is to shine light on the truth and to hold those in power.
00:02:43.000 Accountable.
00:02:44.000 There is no more important time for people like Don to be doing this work.
00:02:48.000 Instead of investigating the federal agents who killed two peaceful Minnesota protesters, the Trump Justice Department is devoting its time, attention, and resources to this arrest.
00:02:57.000 And that is the real indictment of wrongdoing in this case.
00:03:00.000 The unprecedented attack on the First Amendment and transparent attempt to distract attention from the many crises facing this administration will not stand.
00:03:08.000 Don will fight these charges vigorously and thoroughly.
00:03:11.000 You can unpack like three or four different lies in this two paragraph statement.
00:03:15.000 Like, So, first of all, just that line really galls me to protect journalists whose role is to shine light on the truth and hold those in power accountable.
00:03:22.000 This guy was not haranguing a lawmaker, this guy was not disclosing classified documents.
00:03:27.000 This guy went and joined a group of people who busted into a church during worship to harass a worship leader they say is involved with ICE.
00:03:36.000 That is not holding people in power accountable, that is helping a bunch of people harass someone.
00:03:41.000 And he's cheering it on as, oh, yeah, that's the price of protest, as all these kids sob.
00:03:46.000 Well, that's that six year old who's crying in church.
00:03:49.000 Yeah, you're really holding the powerful accountable, Don.
00:03:51.000 Yeah, and there's that instance, but he actually on video kissed the lead protester, said, Thank you for your service, cheered them on.
00:04:01.000 There he is kissing the protester.
00:04:03.000 This is before that.
00:04:04.000 That had to stress him out a little bit.
00:04:05.000 Yeah. 0.73
00:04:06.000 She's now claiming that when she was arrested, that she was like a slave because she studied this in school.
00:04:13.000 Blake, you know the power of a college degree.
00:04:15.000 Yeah, and I don't know.
00:04:17.000 I kind of just doubt these people studied much.
00:04:19.000 Yeah, I don't know if they studied anything.
00:04:21.000 So, predictably, the media freakout is real, and it is being led by none other than Brian Stelter, fuming about his former colleague at CNN being arrested 503.
00:04:32.000 A disturbing escalation against reporting in America.
00:04:35.000 And I would also put it in the framework of protests.
00:04:38.000 You know, this is part of an ongoing pressure campaign against protests, especially the kind of provocative anti Trump protest action.
00:04:45.000 That we have seen makes the administration so uncomfortable.
00:04:48.000 This is an action, this arrest of Don Lemon, this arrest of this independent journalist who is live streaming and reporting in Minnesota.
00:04:57.000 This is something that some MAGA loyalists have been demanding.
00:04:59.000 They've been wanting to see it happen.
00:05:01.000 When Trump promised retribution, this is the kind of retribution that some of his voters, not all, but some of his voters, wanted to see.
00:05:08.000 And I think that is, for better or for worse, some of the context for what we're seeing this morning.
00:05:14.000 Molly Jung Fast, very, very upset.
00:05:17.000 If you don't know who she is, Consider yourself lucky. 0.56
00:05:20.000 498.
00:05:21.000 Think about the countries where journalists are targeted by the federal government, by their governments Russia, China, Turkey.
00:05:29.000 They're not democracies.
00:05:31.000 I mean, this kind of thing, it's a shot across the bow, right, towards the free press.
00:05:36.000 And it's scary.
00:05:38.000 I feel like I was time warping back to 2014 with that vocal there.
00:05:40.000 Is it a Has she ever worked at National Public Radio?
00:05:49.000 I need to find out.
00:05:50.000 National Public Radio doesn't pop up.
00:05:52.000 That's impossible for me to comprehend.
00:05:53.000 Well, guys, he was just arrested for doing his job.
00:05:57.000 495.
00:05:58.000 And again, I keep coming back to this.
00:06:00.000 And the context here is that, you know, Don Lemon has been an enemy of the MAGA movement for quite some time.
00:06:05.000 He's disliked by the Trump administration.
00:06:07.000 That doesn't matter.
00:06:08.000 What matters here is he was being a journalist who was doing his job and has now been arrested for doing his job.
00:06:16.000 Like, the reactions were so predictable.
00:06:20.000 It's so predictable.
00:06:20.000 And just, yeah, like, You know, I think he might have a defense if it was a 100% neutral report and he's like, this mob is going in and like, I think people should see what's going on.
00:06:30.000 It still might rub a lot of people the wrong way, but like, he would have a defense.
00:06:34.000 But he's clearly on Team Protester.
00:06:37.000 He's kissing the protesters, he's cheering them on as these children sob in his immediate vicinity.
00:06:43.000 And he was told to leave and refused to do so.
00:06:46.000 He is a collaborator with the forcible disruption of a worship event, which is illegal.
00:06:52.000 Yeah, well, and so he is facing, just to be clear, 18 U.S. Code 241, conspiracy to deprive rights.
00:06:59.000 18 U.S. Code 248, violation of the FACE Act.
00:07:03.000 Terrorizing Christians is a mistake.
00:07:06.000 It is illegal to do so, especially in their home and their place of worship.
00:07:11.000 Don Lamont, you are not above the law.
00:07:13.000 Which leads me to the final quote that I would like to play, which is from Don Lamont in 2019, 515.
00:07:21.000 Nobody is above the law.
00:07:24.000 Nobody's above the law.
00:07:25.000 Can I get it again for the people in the back?
00:07:27.000 515?
00:07:28.000 Nobody is above the law.
00:07:31.000 Nobody's above the law.
00:07:32.000 We should have that as a sound bite.
00:07:34.000 We can just have them chime that in every time one of them gets arrested.
00:07:37.000 We should do that.
00:07:38.000 We should have that anytime one of these goons gets arrested.
00:07:41.000 We just have Don Lamont's heavenly voice, hellish voice, whatever, descend upon us.
00:07:46.000 I agree.
00:07:46.000 We played this.
00:07:47.000 This is Nakima Levy Armstrong.
00:07:50.000 This is the organizer of this very ill advised protest. 0.88
00:07:56.000 No, this is harassment.
00:07:58.000 It's illegal.
00:07:59.000 You can't do this in a house of worship.
00:08:01.000 506.
00:08:02.000 We had belly chains around our waists and we had handcuffs with bars in the middle.
00:08:09.000 As someone who majored in African American studies, I can tell you that that is the closest I ever felt to slavery in my life.
00:08:17.000 Being shackled as if I was a slave.
00:08:22.000 I'm actually going to, you know, I'm going to do something surprising.
00:08:25.000 I'm going to agree with her.
00:08:26.000 That is the closest she's ever been to slavery because America is not the insane people she says.
00:08:31.000 Good take. 0.99
00:08:32.000 She's not a slave. 1.00
00:08:33.000 Thank goodness.
00:08:34.000 Thank heavens for the Christian crusaders. 1.00
00:08:37.000 Who made that reality?
00:08:40.000 Amen.
00:08:40.000 And that's a good take.
00:08:41.000 It's a really good take.
00:08:42.000 It just proves that your whole life has been really, really privileged and really, really redeemed from previous eras and epics in which black people lived. 1.00
00:08:50.000 Thank God that the closest any of us will ever be to slavery is being handcuffed in the back of a car when we commit crimes.
00:08:57.000 So, but here's the other thing.
00:08:58.000 We just have to call it out.
00:09:00.000 I studied African American studies and I know.
00:09:03.000 And it's like, stop.
00:09:05.000 Just anytime you start a sentence with, here's my degree.
00:09:09.000 This is why I can have this opinion.
00:09:12.000 You just need to stop because nobody cares. 1.00
00:09:14.000 And by the way, if you're going to claim that you got an African American studies degree or whatever, we're going to really judge you because that's a stupid degree to get. 0.99
00:09:22.000 I'm just going to say it. 0.99
00:09:25.000 You don't commit crimes, you don't break into churches.
00:09:29.000 It's pretty straightforward.
00:09:30.000 Okay?
00:09:31.000 All right, I want you to consider the different situations where people would be willing to die.
00:09:37.000 People would be willing to die in war.
00:09:40.000 In the past, maybe.
00:09:41.000 Now, people don't really commit themselves to things that often.
00:09:44.000 People would be willing to die in war.
00:09:45.000 Secondly, it's still happening.
00:09:47.000 That's how I know it's true.
00:09:49.000 People would be willing to die for their family, for their kids, right?
00:09:52.000 We commend a mom that would be willing to run in front of a bus to save her child.
00:09:58.000 And people would be willing to die for their faith.
00:10:00.000 We call them martyrs.
00:10:01.000 Charlie was a martyr.
00:10:02.000 But that's what makes what's happening in Minneapolis and around the country so disturbing, is because people are apparently willing to die.
00:10:12.000 To protect illegal immigrants that have no business being in this country because they are brown coated and the law enforcement are white coated or imperialist versus colonialist versus oppressor versus oppressed. 0.99
00:10:24.000 All of these frameworks are at play.
00:10:26.000 It's an ideology, it's a cult.
00:10:28.000 So, assassination culture is one thing, and we should talk about that with Mangione.
00:10:34.000 That's the other news today.
00:10:35.000 If people haven't heard, while we have had Don Lamont arrested, also today in federal court, they dismissed.
00:10:43.000 The highest murder charge against Luigi Mangione that would have left him open to the death penalty.
00:10:48.000 So, death penalty is off the table for a guy who went and hunted a father because of the job he had and assassinated him in cold blood.
00:10:57.000 So, at the very least, we know he's going to live out the rest of his day.
00:11:00.000 I'm worried.
00:11:01.000 You know, I'm actually worried on that front.
00:11:03.000 It's just been one thing after another.
00:11:06.000 The left, we've seen this with the attacks on ICE, where the left will basically do jury nullification for someone who does a ramming attack on ICE officers.
00:11:14.000 It's 12 people.
00:11:15.000 You need unanimity.
00:11:16.000 You only need one of them to decide actually, I like what this guy did.
00:11:20.000 It's true.
00:11:21.000 Let's hope that doesn't happen.
00:11:22.000 But you're absolutely right to flag it as a concern.
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00:12:37.000 And listen, assassination culture is terrible.
00:12:39.000 We've warned about it.
00:12:40.000 Charlie warned about it, which is one of the tragedies of tragedies.
00:12:44.000 But for the ability to convince other people to sacrifice their lives for death by suicide, it would be one thing, but death by suicide by law enforcement is a whole other thing.
00:12:56.000 So this is what's interesting.
00:12:58.000 So we commend martyrs.
00:13:01.000 In a faith sense, Christian martyrs are heroes.
00:13:03.000 Charlie was a hero.
00:13:05.000 We commend people that die in war for a righteous cause.
00:13:10.000 And then there's people that will die for family.
00:13:13.000 And what's interesting enough about this is that, you know, the left is a godless movement.
00:13:18.000 They have abandoned God, they have distanced themselves from any types of traditional spirituality, in the most part.
00:13:25.000 And what's fascinating is that they have been convinced to do so for immigration.
00:13:32.000 For illegal immigrants, for illegal immigrant criminals that have been oftentimes found guilty of homicide, child rape, trafficking, drug trafficking.
00:13:45.000 And it is a fascinating show because the CIA would be jealous of this.
00:13:50.000 The color revolutionists that we have talked about in foreign countries would marvel at the ability to get so many people en masse to believe a lie.
00:14:00.000 And that is what we are watching.
00:14:01.000 The left has managed to hijack traits of patriotism, faith, and family, three things that they actively oppose, yet they still understand that the power that could be wielded by these ties is so powerful, its motivation is so.
00:14:16.000 Deep, that they come from these natural structures, these God given structures that we are all supposed to be behind, and they've hijacked them.
00:14:25.000 And so they believe that they are in a literal physical war.
00:14:27.000 Their religion of tolerance is under attack by the rule of law, by law and order, and they have substituted what is a real family, the nuclear family, the God given family, and now they talk about their comrades, the movement, the global citizenry, the oppressed, the marginalized.
00:14:46.000 That's their new family.
00:14:48.000 And so I just think it's a really fascinating thing.
00:14:50.000 And where does all of this happen?
00:14:52.000 It's happening on social media.
00:14:54.000 The algorithms are designed to divide us.
00:14:57.000 The algorithm on your social media is going to be different than mine, different than Blake's.
00:15:01.000 The algorithms are going to give you what you want to see, they're going to reinforce your biases.
00:15:08.000 They're going to reinforce the things that you already think, feel, and see.
00:15:12.000 So even when you see a counter opinion, that opinion is supposed to enrage you. 0.99
00:15:19.000 It's supposed to send you off a cliff and think, how could these people be so ignorant?
00:15:22.000 It's not going to give you the content that maybe would help you see things from a different perspective. 0.96
00:15:27.000 It's supposed to enrage you, it's supposed to make you hate those people.
00:15:31.000 And our next guest is going to be Allie Beth Stuckey from The Blaze.
00:15:35.000 She's been calling out and warning about the Instagram slop that she is seeing.
00:15:41.000 Now, she is a conservative Christian woman, she's one of the leaders of that space.
00:15:45.000 And what is she seeing?
00:15:46.000 Even in her Instagram feed, she's seeing rage bait.
00:15:50.000 Anti ice slop, even in her self selected conservative Christian female American algorithm, it is being inundated with anti ice slop.
00:16:02.000 And what is it leading to? 0.87
00:16:03.000 It's leading to kamikaze Karens in the streets of Minneapolis that are willing to sacrifice their lives. 1.00
00:16:08.000 It's leading to walkouts at high schools all across the country.
00:16:11.000 We're seeing that here in Phoenix today and across the country.
00:16:15.000 It's leading to a degradation and a delegitimization of law enforcement. 0.97
00:16:20.000 It's really scary if she's.
00:16:22.000 And I'm not surprised at all because I remember George Floyd in 2020.
00:16:26.000 I remember huge amounts.
00:16:27.000 It wouldn't be slop at that time.
00:16:28.000 We didn't have AI, but it was the extreme vulnerability of people who should know better to this emotional manipulation of the left.
00:16:37.000 It's an extremely powerful emotional manipulation machine to present you with images to make you feel bad, to really reinforce them with a lot of people all freaking out at the same time.
00:16:47.000 And you get in this bubble that can last.
00:16:50.000 Really, until everything boils over.
00:16:53.000 And with Floyd, with Floyd Palooza, you remember, it took years to build up to that.
00:16:58.000 It started like with Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and it would come and it would go and it would come and it would go and it would get more and more intense.
00:17:06.000 And finally, they burned down half the country.
00:17:08.000 Well, it's a pattern.
00:17:09.000 And then people got a little over it.
00:17:10.000 And we're seeing it with this ice where I think they're building up this bigger psychosis.
00:17:14.000 And I'm very worried about where that might end up, where they'll just get whipped up until finally some lunatic who sees, oh, Luigi Mangione is a hero and he's not even going to get executed.
00:17:24.000 Or, frankly, Tyler Robinson.
00:17:26.000 Some people think he's a hero.
00:17:27.000 And they'll think, I can be like that person. 0.98
00:17:29.000 And they'll go and they'll buy a gun and they'll go and try to shoot a bunch of ICE agents. 0.91
00:17:33.000 I think that is what we're building towards. 0.90
00:17:36.000 I completely agree.
00:17:36.000 And it's a pattern.
00:17:38.000 They're playing us off the same pattern.
00:17:40.000 It's the same people that believed and fell for the BLM and the Black Square hoax, same people that believed in the pronouns in the bio, the believe all women, the defund police, the vax and mask if you love your neighbor.
00:17:51.000 All of the same things.
00:17:54.000 They're falling for it again.
00:17:55.000 And those same people are falling for it.
00:17:57.000 And spreading their influence all over Instagram and TikTok. 1.00
00:18:01.000 Brett Kavanaugh is a rapist. 1.00
00:18:02.000 Trump is a racist. 1.00
00:18:04.000 Trump's Hitler. 1.00
00:18:06.000 It's the same pattern to enrage, divide, to spread lies without anybody pushing back against them because the algorithm has already decided that that's not going to happen.
00:18:18.000 Do not fall for the pattern, do not fall for the rage bait.
00:18:23.000 Build up immunities, think critically.
00:18:25.000 And I really believe that that's the key.
00:18:27.000 We are losing our ability to think critically.
00:18:29.000 And we have to call it out and hopefully see a revitalization of critical thinking skills and independent thinking.
00:18:39.000 We are joined by Allie Beth Stuckey, host of Relatable Podcast, Blaze TV.
00:18:44.000 Check it out there.
00:18:46.000 Also, she is the author of a book called Toxic Empathy How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion.
00:18:54.000 And that has been targeted by none other than Hillary Rodham Clinton.
00:19:00.000 Remember her?
00:19:02.000 Which is just so cool. 1.00
00:19:04.000 I am so jealous of Allie Beth Stuckey for getting targeted by Hillary Rodham Clinton. 0.98
00:19:09.000 So, without further ado, Allie, welcome back to the show.
00:19:12.000 Yeah, thank you so much.
00:19:13.000 First, can you introduce Hillary Rodham Clinton to our younger viewers?
00:19:18.000 They may not be familiar with her at this point.
00:19:20.000 Hillary Rodham Clinton, back in the day.
00:19:22.000 You know Trump.
00:19:23.000 Everyone knows Trump, right?
00:19:25.000 Well, we've got that. 0.76
00:19:27.000 Kamala Harris.
00:19:28.000 But long, long time ago, when a lot of you were maybe just being born, he went up against someone named Hillary Clinton.
00:19:37.000 She's not a newbie.
00:19:38.000 She's got a long and storied history in American politics.
00:19:42.000 And I was not expecting this new.
00:19:44.000 Burst of publicity for me and my book that came out over a year ago from none other than Secretary Clinton.
00:19:50.000 But here we are.
00:19:52.000 Well, congratulations.
00:19:54.000 She has a lot to say about you.
00:19:55.000 She called you the, I think, the Commissar of MAGA morality, which is.
00:20:00.000 That goes so hard.
00:20:02.000 That's good.
00:20:02.000 That goes so hard.
00:20:03.000 Very good.
00:20:04.000 I mean, I love how she sort of, you know, filtered in her own little communist language there, her vocabulary.
00:20:10.000 She says, the author of Toxic Empathy, who styles herself a voice for Christian women, has more than a million followers on social media.
00:20:16.000 That's a lot.
00:20:17.000 And it goes on this commissar of MAGA morality targets other evangelicals whose empathy, she warns, has left them open to manipulation.
00:20:25.000 Maybe they recognize the humanity of an undocumented immigrant family and decide that mass deportation has gone too far.
00:20:33.000 Or they make space in their heart for a young rape survivor forced to carry a pregnancy to term and start questioning the wisdom and morality of total abortion bans.
00:20:42.000 It's all toxic to Stucky.
00:20:44.000 Your response.
00:20:45.000 Yeah, you know, I just appreciate that she gave me two blatant examples of toxic empathy.
00:20:51.000 We should see the humanity in an illegal immigrant because they're made in the image of God. 0.70
00:20:55.000 That should not lead us to want to prohibit deportations or the enforcement of our common sense immigration law.
00:21:02.000 We should have compassion for the rape survivor who is now pregnant.
00:21:06.000 That should not lead us to support the death penalty for the baby.
00:21:10.000 So, this is exactly my point that we should be having compassion for all different kinds of people, but that compassion should not lead us to affirm sin or support really destructive policy, both for our families and for our country.
00:21:23.000 Thank you so much, Hillary, for being an example of that.
00:21:26.000 Well, so this reminded me of a rant that, and please get me the clip, guys, the Greg Gutfeld rant.
00:21:34.000 I can't find it right now, but it is so spot on.
00:21:37.000 And actually, I said something similar yesterday reacting to the Bruce Springsteen clip.
00:21:42.000 He's got this new song out in the streets of Minneapolis, and he's talking about we won't forget their names as they roam and kill the ICE agents.
00:21:50.000 And we won't forget Renee Good and Alex Pretty.
00:21:54.000 And it instantly occurred to me, Allie, that we have no songs for Lake and Riley.
00:22:00.000 We have no songs for Rachel Moran.
00:22:02.000 We have no songs for Jocelyn Nungary.
00:22:04.000 We have no songs for Molly Tibbetts.
00:22:06.000 We do not have any of that.
00:22:08.000 And yet, the selective outrage is such that we have a song now for what's happening in Minneapolis.
00:22:16.000 What do you think it is about Minneapolis that is so enraging for the progressive left?
00:22:23.000 Look, I think it's exactly what we're talking about.
00:22:26.000 They now have victory.
00:22:27.000 That they can venerate as saints and as martyrs.
00:22:30.000 We saw that, of course, y'all talked about it with Anna Navarro saying that Alex Preddy was the kind of guy that you would want to bring home for your daughters.
00:22:38.000 Just absolutely absurd stuff.
00:22:39.000 You can debate what actually happened when he lost his life without elevating him to this level that they elevated George Floyd, which was basically that he was a perfect person sent by God to show us what injustice really looks like.
00:22:51.000 And they're not going to waste a tragedy.
00:22:53.000 They're not going to waste a loss of life.
00:22:56.000 They are going to use it to advance their cause, which is chaos.
00:22:59.000 Open borders, destruction.
00:23:01.000 This audience knows everything about that.
00:23:03.000 But they are going to leverage your natural compassion, your instinctive empathy to manipulate you into believing that supporting their policies is the only way to be a good person and advance the cause of justice.
00:23:15.000 And I just want everyone this is the whole purpose of what I do, the purpose of my book to step back and say, I can see the humanity in Alex Preddy and Renee Good without supporting a policy that would lead to defunding the police or defunding ICE, that would lead to more Lake and Riley's and more Molly Tibbets's.
00:23:34.000 And more Kate Steinleys because I love my neighbor.
00:23:38.000 And by the way, Lakin Riley was my neighbor too.
00:23:41.000 And because I care about her and I care about innocent life, I'm going to continue to support immigration enforcement.
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00:24:49.000 Yeah, I mean, it's so clear.
00:24:50.000 And you see a 20% drop in murders, a historic drop in murders.
00:24:55.000 You see law and order getting returned to the streets of Memphis, Washington, D.C., and elsewhere.
00:24:59.000 You see the fruits of fentanyl deaths are plummeting because we're actually taking that seriously.
00:25:05.000 Women are not getting trafficked over the southern border.
00:25:08.000 We're not missing another 500,000 underage minors that happen to be from south of the border.
00:25:15.000 Where was the empathy for these things?
00:25:17.000 And this is why I am just so I love this clip.
00:25:21.000 Greg Gutfeld went off yesterday.
00:25:24.000 524.
00:25:25.000 How did we get here?
00:25:27.000 How did we get here?
00:25:27.000 Pull back.
00:25:29.000 An open border that let millions in, and you guys didn't give two Alex credit. 1.00
00:25:34.000 She snuck right through that border.
00:25:36.000 All right, all right, all right.
00:25:37.000 We had dozens of deaths where you didn't say s.
00:25:40.000 Jocelyn Nungaree, Lakin Riley, Rachel Morin, Molly Tibbetts.
00:25:46.000 Here's three pages of women who have been murdered by illegal aliens in the last like seven or eight years.
00:25:53.000 The seven or eight years that we have been here talking about this and mocked over it.
00:25:57.000 He goes on, and I put it on my X page, so please check that out.
00:26:02.000 It was vintage Greg Gutfeld.
00:26:04.000 You have been calling out where a lot of this rage is coming from, though, and it's on Instagram.
00:26:09.000 Now, you are a conservative Christian.
00:26:12.000 You probably follow a lot of conservative Christians, and yet you have been observing a trend on Instagram.
00:26:19.000 What is it, and why are you sounding the alarm?
00:26:22.000 It's 2020 all over again.
00:26:23.000 I remember when I woke up on June 2nd or 3rd in 2020, and I thought my Instagram was glitching because.
00:26:29.000 I saw these black squares take over my feed, even from people who called themselves Christian conservatives. 1.00
00:26:34.000 And maybe they had a Bible verse underneath, but some of them said, you know, Black Lives Matter.
00:26:39.000 And the underlying common assumption in all of that was that George Floyd died because of systemic racism, because Derek Chauvin was racist.
00:26:46.000 And the only question that I asked in my head and then later publicly was, how do I know that's true?
00:26:50.000 How do I know that's true?
00:26:52.000 And frankly, I had read too much Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams at that point to be duped by all of it.
00:26:57.000 So I just started pointing out that.
00:26:59.000 Your compassion is lopsided.
00:27:01.000 You don't have any compassion for all of these innocent people who are being killed by the rioters.
00:27:06.000 That's the definition of injustice, punishing someone for something that they did not do, which is exactly what happened with the chaos of 2020.
00:27:13.000 And the same thing, of course, is happening today.
00:27:15.000 Everyone feels the pressure to signal their virtue.
00:27:18.000 And what bothers me is that people who never pipe up about politics, who never say anything about what's going on when Biden or Obama is president, all of the so called kids in cages, the minors separated from parents and lost under the Biden administration, now feel The urgency to say, Oh, I've got to pipe up about politics.
00:27:37.000 I'm like, Look, there's a long list of injustices that occur when Trump is not president that I and others would have loved your voice on.
00:27:45.000 I never hear you talk about abortion.
00:27:47.000 I never hear you talk about the kids whose bodies are being chopped up because they've been told that they are the wrong gender.
00:27:53.000 I don't hear you talk about any of those injustices.
00:27:55.000 So at least be fair.
00:27:57.000 At least be fair.
00:27:58.000 But you should ask yourself, Why is your public outrage completely dictated by what the liberal media says is wrong?
00:28:05.000 And if you can't be fair, Just be quiet.
00:28:09.000 Blake.
00:28:11.000 There's something about this.
00:28:13.000 It's that ability to just get, it's like hitting a light switch, the ability to get whipped up entirely selectively based on who's in office, what's on the news.
00:28:25.000 And it cries out for a better psychological explanation.
00:28:31.000 And I'm not entirely sure what it is.
00:28:34.000 Because what's going on in this person's head?
00:28:35.000 Where you didn't care about these things until 10 minutes ago, suddenly it's all important.
00:28:40.000 And then you.
00:28:41.000 You could like even move on and change your views, and it's like total amnesia that it ever happened, which we've all seen.
00:28:47.000 We've seen the people who were entirely whipped up, for example, in Floyd-a-Palooza, and then today it's like it never happened.
00:28:54.000 It, what?
00:28:56.000 Why do you care about that?
00:28:58.000 And it happens on so many things.
00:29:00.000 Imagery is compelling.
00:29:02.000 And when you put up a picture of a child in his little blue toboggan looking sad, standing alone with, you know, federal agents, that evokes something in you.
00:29:12.000 And by the way, it should.
00:29:14.000 That's.
00:29:15.000 Something good in your heart if you saw that picture and you're like, oh my gosh, that poor child.
00:29:20.000 But when that is decontextualized and a completely fabricated narrative is attached to it, and that is what first circulates, it is really hard for me, for you, for anyone else to compete against an image, to compete against a picture with logic, with questions.
00:29:35.000 Telling people to not allow their emotion to arrest their critical thinking is really hard because we are all, especially women, emotional creatures.
00:29:46.000 And as we've talked about, as Charlie talked about so often, the Progressives don't have the same moral limits that we do.
00:29:52.000 Whereas we don't want to lie.
00:29:53.000 We don't want to misrepresent, even if it advances our cause.
00:29:57.000 Progressives have an ends justify the means mentality that means if this lie gets ICE agents off the street, then it'll all be worth it.
00:30:09.000 It's just hard to compete with.
00:30:11.000 Not impossible, but difficult.
00:30:12.000 Well, you think about it, Ali, because you think, remember the Nicholas Sandman instance where it looked like this young MAGA, young.
00:30:22.000 They said a mob surrounded an Indian elder and harassed him for no reason.
00:30:27.000 And it took years and a massive lawsuit to clear his name.
00:30:32.000 And I bet, despite that, there are still millions of left wingers and progressives that only get their news from one or two sources that still believe that he was attacking an Indian elder.
00:30:43.000 And you think about that with Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:30:45.000 There are still people who think Hands Up, Don't Shoot was true.
00:30:47.000 That was fake.
00:30:48.000 And by the way, there are still people that think that, a lot of people, by the way, that think it was somebody from MAGA that killed Charlie.
00:30:55.000 Because these lies are allowed to be perpetuated and they're not corrected.
00:30:59.000 But it's the first lie, the first image that ends up making the biggest impact.
00:31:03.000 And right, the lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to put on its pants.
00:31:08.000 And that is really, I think, a tactic that is being weaponized and used because they know that it's effective.
00:31:14.000 And to your point, they don't have the same restraints.
00:31:17.000 I remember during some of the conspiracy theories that we were confronting, which, by the way, you've been amazing on with Ali, I got a question from a very prominent person online.
00:31:27.000 And we were talking about, well, what do you do to confront them?
00:31:30.000 And the question was posed to me how evil are you willing to be?
00:31:33.000 And I said, I'm not.
00:31:35.000 And they said, well, that really limits your options here.
00:31:38.000 I was like, okay.
00:31:39.000 There's a piece here in The Federalist by Kylie Griswold.
00:31:44.000 And she's talking about the same phenomenon.
00:31:45.000 I don't know if you've seen this piece.
00:31:47.000 She's talking about Instagram.
00:31:49.000 And she's specifically for young women.
00:31:52.000 She says, the information is low, but the emotion is high.
00:31:55.000 On Instagram, you'll learn that immigration and customs enforcement used an innocent five year old as a bait and then arrested him.
00:32:02.000 And she says, false.
00:32:03.000 He was abandoned by his own illegal alien father.
00:32:06.000 You'll learn that mother and legal observer Renee Good was.
00:32:10.000 Gunned down in the streets. 0.98
00:32:11.000 False, she says.
00:32:12.000 The Ice Watch agitator aimed a weapon, aka her two ton SUV, at a federal officer who had previously been run over by an illegal alien and then accelerated, hitting him and reportedly causing internal bleeding.
00:32:24.000 You'll learn that the traumatic city's church disruption was First Amendment protected speech, and on and on it goes.
00:32:31.000 What do we do?
00:32:33.000 What can be done about this proliferation?
00:32:38.000 I almost got it.
00:32:40.000 Of highly emotional.
00:32:42.000 Abolish all social media.
00:32:44.000 Abolish social media.
00:32:45.000 Well, you know, I've had an Instagram for about 10 years now.
00:32:50.000 And man, I feel like every two years it's another propaganda battle.
00:32:54.000 2016, of course, it was Trump.
00:32:55.000 2018, it was Kavanaugh.
00:32:57.000 2020, it was COVID and George Floyd.
00:32:59.000 2022, it was Roe v. Wade being overturned when we had that flurry of lies about, oh, because of pro life legislation, women are dying in emergency rooms.
00:33:07.000 We had to debunk that.
00:33:09.000 2024, we had the election.
00:33:11.000 And now here we are in 2026.
00:33:13.000 And we've got a similar situation.
00:33:15.000 And so I I feel like I've been through the ringer here.
00:33:18.000 But the hopeful thing is that back in 2020, I felt like I was one of the only white female evangelicals who was like, oh, actually, I don't think I want to post a black square. 0.99
00:33:31.000 And I was confronted by prominent Christian leaders that this is the wrong move.
00:33:36.000 This is divisive.
00:33:37.000 This is racist.
00:33:38.000 You should be, you know, a part of reconciliation.
00:33:41.000 You should have more empathy.
00:33:42.000 That's what inspired my book.
00:33:43.000 Sometimes it doesn't matter what the facts are.
00:33:45.000 I was told verbatim.
00:33:47.000 Multiple times.
00:33:48.000 Sometimes it doesn't matter what the truth is.
00:33:50.000 You just have to express your empathy.
00:33:52.000 And that is where I was like, nope, that is leading us in a really, really bad direction because public messaging affects public opinion, which affects public policy, which affects the public.
00:34:03.000 It affects people.
00:34:05.000 Like real lives are lost when we defund the police, when we exacerbate the riots and things like that.
00:34:10.000 So, the encouraging part though is that now in 2026, six years later, I do feel when I look to my right and left, not politically, but when I look around, I see more people like me who have platforms who are willing to say, I'm not going to join in with that.
00:34:28.000 I'm not going to repost that.
00:34:30.000 At least I'm going to take some time to figure out what's really going on.
00:34:34.000 And then you've got other people who are, you know, courageous being like, no, that's not the right narrative.
00:34:40.000 And actually, Like, there are other circumstances going on here, and I don't think that that's true.
00:34:47.000 So, I'm encouraged by that.
00:34:48.000 There are more of us now than there were six years ago, and so we just got to keep pushing.
00:34:53.000 Obviously, it's working, or Hillary Rodham Clinton would not be taking out 6,000 words in the Atlantic to try to urge women back into her folds of toxic empathy.
00:35:05.000 By the way, I'm going to be giving a full response to Hillary Clinton later today on my channel, but obviously, they're scared, and so we got to keep slugging.
00:35:14.000 Yeah, the best hope I can have is maybe you think of how television impacted people when it first came along and it fried a lot of brains. 0.99
00:35:24.000 You look at an old propaganda reel in World War II, and if you watch it today, you think, this is really stupid. 0.99
00:35:30.000 It's really in your face. 0.99
00:35:31.000 And it just would not work anymore today because people have gotten used to it.
00:35:35.000 And maybe that's the hope with social media, we're still in the first generations to encounter this and it cooks our brains really bad.
00:35:44.000 But.
00:35:45.000 People who maybe entirely grow up in it will hopefully get used to the manipulation tactics it uses.
00:35:51.000 And we have to hope that because, as you say, it's not just that they're easily propagandized, it's also a really dark thing the flattening of what maybe we call it like flattening of your moral register, where it's very common for people on social media to basically view a bad social media take or something they disagree with as equal or worse in moral heinousness to actually killing somebody, to actually committing a real life atrocity.
00:36:16.000 And we've seen that over and over.
00:36:18.000 There are people who have gotten.
00:36:19.000 Canceled off social media who faced far worse effects on their lives than someone who committed a crime in real life where they'll get a moral cause in their favor.
00:36:28.000 And oh, we need to make sure this person gets back on their feet.
00:36:31.000 It's really, that's a great point.
00:36:33.000 It's very interesting and it really drives home the importance of having good moral cultivation.
00:36:37.000 I think we live with an ideal that it's like very easy.
00:36:41.000 You can have naive morality.
00:36:43.000 And no, it has to be cultivated.
00:36:45.000 It's why we need good pastors, it's why we need good religious leaders because a big part of their job is to have.
00:36:52.000 That level of moral cultivation to get past that first hurdle of what's your immediate visual emotional response to this.
00:36:58.000 I totally agree.
00:36:59.000 And we need moral courage from you in the audience, you listening to Ali's show, listening to this show.
00:37:03.000 We need you to get in the comments when you see people manipulating you, propagandizing you with slop.
00:37:10.000 You have to be brave.
00:37:11.000 You have to be brave.
00:37:12.000 And I think we're now at an iteration of this where we need more and more voices to rise up.
00:37:18.000 Ali, final 30 seconds to you.
00:37:20.000 Yeah, you know, Blake, you just made such good points, both of you, but that flattening of.
00:37:26.000 Like virtue and morality is why empathy should not be your guide, why moral truth has to be your guide, why virtue has to be your guide.
00:37:36.000 It's not about getting rid of compassion, it's allowing your compassion to be guided by what is true, what is logically, factually true, but also what is biblically true.
00:37:46.000 You can get exhausted by over untethered empathy, but God's ways stay the same.
00:37:52.000 And if you follow that, you'll be headed in the right direction.
00:37:55.000 The truth is unchanging.
00:37:56.000 Stay anchored to it.
00:37:57.000 Allie Bestucky, thank you so much.
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