The Charlie Kirk Show - Hillary Clinton's History of Lawlessness with John Solomon

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00:01:27.000 So there's an ongoing story I want to spend some time on because it's really important, which is where did all of Black Lives Matter money go?

00:01:36.000 This is not a small amount of money, and there's a lot of the same sort of actors that we have kind of grown accustomed to that are involved in this.

00:01:45.000 So first, I'm reading from an article from Spiked.

00:01:48.000 Is that the name of the website?

00:01:49.000 Spiked?

00:01:51.000 By Wilfred Riley.

00:01:54.000 Quote, the Black Lives Matter movement has raised billions of dollars over the past several years, but no one wants or seems to care about how the money was spent.

00:02:02.000 Now, Washington Post, New York Times, they're totally uninterested in this.

00:02:06.000 Totally.

00:02:07.000 On December 2020, The Economist noted that $10.6 billion had been pledged to causes and organizations affiliated with BLM.

00:02:19.000 According to that article and further reporting from the right-leaning Daily Signal, BLM corporate donors included Amazon, Gatorade, Microsoft, 23andMe, Tender, etc.

00:02:30.000 So $10.6 billion have been pledged to BLM.

00:02:38.000 As far as this author can tell, he says no comprehensive or even partial audit of what happened to this staggering sum of money has ever taken place.

00:02:47.000 Indeed, given the sheer number of corporate and NGO players involved, conducting one would be very difficult.

00:02:53.000 So let's start with one organization.

00:02:55.000 It's called the Black Lives Matter Global National Fund.

00:02:59.000 I think it's BLM GNF.

00:03:03.000 Now, they raised over $90 million in 2020, the year that George Floyd was killed.

00:03:11.000 According to the New York Post, by the end of 2020, the group had an approximate balance of $60 million after spending $8.4 million on undefined expenses and costs and committing $21.7 million to local chapters.

00:03:28.000 But this is when the picture gets complicated.

00:03:30.000 Now, by the way, I just want to compliment this guy from spiked.com.

00:03:34.000 This is the best piece of journalism I've seen on this, and this is just like surface level.

00:03:39.000 But of course, none of the media would be bothered by looking into this.

00:03:42.000 Of course not.

00:03:43.000 So this is when it gets complicated.

00:03:45.000 A group of 10 Black Lives Matter chapters known as hashtag BLM10 includes the organization Sizable New Jersey and Hudson Valley branches.

00:03:55.000 They publicly criticized BLM GNF, their mothership, in November 2020, over lack of financial transparency, decision-making, and accountability.

00:04:04.000 Quote, to the best of our knowledge, a spokesperson for hashtag BLM10 stated in an open letter that, quote, most chapters have received little to no financial support from BLM GNF.

00:04:17.000 The 2020 impact report for Black Lives Matter, which includes BLM GNF, BLM PAC, and BLM Grassroots, does not mention funding given to local chapters, but it only lists 11 chapters as recipients of the funding given out to them.

00:04:32.000 Interestingly, BLM's impact report lists far more transgender advocacy organizations as its recipients than organizations promoting black civil rights, whatever black civil rights mean today, whatever.

00:04:46.000 The lists of the organizations to which BLM GNF pledged at least a six-figure grant includes Trans United, the Audrey Lorde Project, Black Trans Circles, the Transgender District, the Black Trans Travel Fund, the Okra Project for the Gworls, the Trans Justice Funding Project, the Trans Housing Coalition Homeless Black Trans Woman Fund, the Black Trans Media, and Black Trans Femme in the Arts.

00:05:15.000 Now, let me just stop here.

00:05:16.000 I had no idea that there were this many networks of transgender alphabet mafia groups, but I should have known better, obviously, because boy, are they pushing it? 1.00

00:05:26.000 And it's very telling that the racial groups basically give the money to the transgender groups.

00:05:34.000 It's really interesting.

00:05:35.000 It's like, yeah, so we believe in black identity, so we're going to go give money to groups that believe identity is something you can change. 0.81

00:05:44.000 So we believe in things you can't change, like skin color and tribes, and so we're going to go give money to people that believe you can change it. 0.92

00:05:51.000 So strange.

00:05:53.000 Questions have also been raised about what's going on at the top of BLM GNF, and nobody knows.

00:05:58.000 There's no one in charge.

00:05:59.000 It's a slush fund.

00:06:01.000 It's a shell.

00:06:02.000 It's a mystery.

00:06:03.000 The organization does not appear to have a chief executive officer for over a year.

00:06:07.000 According to the Washington Examiner, which did great work on this, former CEO Patrice Cullers stepped down in May of 2021 following criticisms of her personal finances.

00:06:15.000 She went on a shopping spree.

00:06:17.000 She bought homes across the planet, literally, Canada, everywhere.

00:06:21.000 This appears, they gave all these different excuses, but then this is when it gets even more interesting.

00:06:29.000 BLMGNF has now opted to suspend its online fundraising operations.

00:06:34.000 Tens of millions of dollars were also certainly raised during a period when the organization had no leadership team.

00:06:41.000 And then, of course, were the houses, Spike.com rights.

00:06:44.000 Again, this is a terrific piece.

00:06:46.000 One of the main reasons Culler stepped down was due to the controversy over her real estate buying binge, which she purchased for homes valued at $3.2 million. 0.97

00:06:57.000 Cullers signed off on the deeds for a house in Inglewood, California worth half a million dollars, a custom ranch property located in rural Georgia, which was equipped with an airplane runway, and a $1.4 million mansion in Ritzy, Toponga Canyon, a short drive from Malibu.

00:07:15.000 You'd think all of this would make people want to know what happened to the billions pledged to BLM or the millions given to BLM GNF, but nope, the media doesn't care at all.

00:07:23.000 Why would they be bothered by such things?

00:07:26.000 Spike.com says, quote, this seems to be a product of the soft bigotry of low expectations that is becoming increasingly prevalent on the woke left.

00:07:35.000 Continues kind of with just some personal commentary and basically says this at the end.

00:07:43.000 Here's a tip: if and when you give to a black charity, don't be racist enough to assume it's normal for the organization to have problems like BLM is currently embroiled in.

00:07:51.000 You should treat it like any other charitable donation and make sure the organization has transparent finances, a definite address, and a CEO.

00:07:59.000 Basic things.

00:08:01.000 Now, BLM is so corrupt. 0.85

00:08:03.000 And by the way, we called how corrupt BLM was the entire time and we were called racist relentlessly because you're not allowed to criticize an organization that has black in the name without being called a racist. 0.75

00:08:15.000 I run a 501c3.

00:08:17.000 I know the scrutiny.

00:08:18.000 We go through third-party audits every single year and the most extensive exhaustive audits.

00:08:24.000 We have to file registration for fundraising in all 50 states every single year.

00:08:29.000 Annual, it's called annual solicitation agreements.

00:08:32.000 We go through third-party audits.

00:08:34.000 We have board of directors.

00:08:35.000 We have conflict of interest statements.

00:08:37.000 We have all sorts.

00:08:38.000 I mean, it is exhausting.

00:08:39.000 We have in-house counsel, outside counsel, like I'm talking about hundreds of man hours that go into this.

00:08:45.000 And by the way, we are a micron of the revenue that BLM raised in one year.

00:08:50.000 One year.

00:08:51.000 And we have the Washington Post, we have New York Times, everyone reaching out about, what does this mean?

00:08:55.000 What's this?

00:08:55.000 What does this mean?

00:08:56.000 What does this mean?

00:08:56.000 Like unbelievable scrutiny.

00:08:58.000 Like, oh, hey, how about the organization that had $10 billion pledged to them?

00:09:01.000 Like, do you ask anything about that?

00:09:02.000 Or they don't have a CEO.

00:09:03.000 They don't have an address.

00:09:04.000 She starts buying homes all across the planet.

00:09:06.000 You don't care about that?

00:09:07.000 Of course not.

00:09:08.000 Because they don't, because BLM is at least at one time helpful.

00:09:11.000 But to the great credit of even some of these blue states that have some of the most restrictive charitable solicitation agreements, California being one of them, New Mexico, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Vermont, which we register in every state because we do a lot of direct mail.

00:09:26.000 We do a lot of stuff like that.

00:09:27.000 We know the scrutiny of this is these states are basically telling BLM, you're not allowed to fundraise anymore.

00:09:33.000 You cannot fundraise in our state.

00:09:35.000 What if the 90 million, 10 billion, whatever, we don't know because there's no audit financials.

00:09:40.000 What if that went to black charter schools?

00:09:42.000 What if that would have went towards helping fatherlessness in black communities? 0.87

00:09:47.000 Let's just focus on charter schools.

00:09:49.000 What if that would have been an infusion to build charter schools, hire better teachers, and get literacy rates?

00:09:54.000 That could have made a difference, actually.

00:09:56.000 How about black family centers?

00:09:58.000 How about like a ambitious boys and girls club Marshall Plan with that money?

00:10:03.000 That's okay.

00:10:03.000 That's fine.

00:10:04.000 It's great.

00:10:05.000 It helps human decency.

00:10:06.000 No, instead, it goes towards racial arson, literally, real estate buying sprees, and transgender groups. 0.93

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00:11:26.000 Okay, so here's where it gets interesting with the whole Black Lives Matter story.

00:11:30.000 So there are new filings from Black Lives Matter as they're scrambling to try to not be basically totally disintegrated in real time.

00:11:40.000 And who is the person that is the lawyer who is running Black Lives Matter?

00:11:48.000 Mark Elias.

00:11:50.000 Mark Elias and another longtime ally of Hillary Clinton has taken key roles in the charity amid scrutiny over its leadership and its finances.

00:12:00.000 Elias, who is known for his funding of the British ex-spy Christopher Steeles, Christopher Steel's discredited anti-Trump dossier while he served as the general counsel of Hillary Clinton's campaign.

00:12:10.000 And he also has been the number one guy for redistricting and lawsuits around all of it.

00:12:17.000 I mean, he is everywhere.

00:12:19.000 But Elias and his firm is now listed as one of the addresses and states in the short year 2024 990 that its books were now in the care of the Elias law group.

00:12:30.000 Additionally, Minion Moore, a longtime ally of Bill and Hillary Clinton, is now listed on the BLM board of directors in the charity filings.

00:12:39.000 Now, the most important part is when did they take over?

00:12:42.000 I mean, they're not stupid, so they probably took over recently after they kind of recognized all this quasi-illegal activity that is happening, allegedly illegal activity that's happening.

00:12:53.000 But Black Lives Matter filed a charitable organization registration early this month with the New Mexico Attorney General's office, listing addresses for BLM in Arizona, Oakland, California, but says BLM other addresses is the Elias Law Group.

00:13:06.000 So is he running Black Lives Matter now?

00:13:08.000 Hillary Clinton's the same guy that's being investigated for John Durham for funding the spying of a president in the White House is now running Black Lives Matter. 1.00

00:13:16.000 What is going on here?

00:13:19.000 The latest filings edition of the partisan lawyer Mark Elias confirms the group is more political than charitable, Scott Walter says.

00:13:26.000 But also suggests that finally some left-wing heavyweights have begun to deal with the embarrassing mess made by major activist groups the institutional left has failed to pardon the term police.

00:13:37.000 The National Black Lives Matter group pulled off an accounting maneuver that allowed it to delay reporting what it did with $60 million from 2020.

00:13:45.000 The Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, the charity that serves as the face of the national BLM movement, quietly changed its 12-month accounting cycle to run from July to June, giving it until mid-May to report what it did with the millions that flooded its coffers beginning in the second half of 2020.

00:14:00.000 The new BLM filings in New Mexico also states that Minion Moore is his board member for BLM in California as a board member too.

00:14:06.000 Hillary Clinton's Onward Together Pact was reportedly incorporated by Elias in April of 2017.

00:14:12.000 Elias is listed as a governor for the Clinton Pact in a business filing as well.

00:14:17.000 So Elias is being investigated by John Durham for concocting this entire scheme.

00:14:24.000 He's suing on behalf of Stacey Abrams in Georgia, which now new evidence shows that there was a ballot harvesting trafficking scheme in the key battleground states.

00:14:34.000 And now Mark Elias assumes control of the Black Lives Matter network.

00:14:40.000 That doesn't make any sense.

00:14:42.000 What's really going on here?

00:14:44.000 Well, thankfully, we finally have some investigative journalists on the right that are going to get to the bottom of this because the mainstream media would be totally, they wouldn't be bothered by this.

00:14:52.000 But also, what happened to the other $10 billion that these companies pledge?

00:14:56.000 Where did that money go?

00:14:58.000 Certainly didn't go to improve black lives. 1.00

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00:16:28.000 With us is a friend of mine who has a lot to say about the perfect lead up with Mark Elias and also Hillary Clinton's tweet last night.

00:16:36.000 Love having him on the show.

00:16:37.000 John Solomon from Just the News.

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00:16:42.000 John, welcome back.

00:16:43.000 Yeah, great to be with you, Charlie.

00:16:45.000 So, John, you're pretty fired up about this Hillary Clinton tweet.

00:16:48.000 Tell us about it.

00:16:49.000 Yeah, listen, at the end of the day, Hillary Clinton can call this a fake scandal, but her counsel, her lawyer from the campaign, is accused of lying to the FBI.

00:16:58.000 And if you go through the history of Hillary Clinton, let's go back to the 1990s when a lot of your audience was probably younger.

00:17:04.000 I was covering the same Hillary Clinton, and there was a grand jury subpoena out for her Rose law firm Billy Records. 0.99

00:17:11.000 They were essential to a criminal investigation known as Whitewater.

00:17:14.000 They couldn't be found for months and months, despite the efforts of the FBI.

00:17:17.000 One day, they just suddenly showed up in the White House residence.

00:17:21.000 And I think when you hear these things, you begin to realize there's a pattern and a disdain for the law that has been around for the Clinton machine for a long time.

00:17:30.000 And now they have one of their lawyers going to the FBI, according to John Durham's indictment, pitching dirt on Donald Trump that's not true.

00:17:38.000 We know it now to not be true.

00:17:40.000 It was a bogus allegation of Russia collusion, secret connection where he's apparently communicating with the Kremlin through a bank in Moscow.

00:17:49.000 The FBI, Robert Mueller, John Durham, Congress have all proven that wasn't true.

00:17:54.000 But they pitch it to the FBI, and the lawyer can't even tell the truth, according to the Durham, about why he's pitching it.

00:18:00.000 He says, I'm coming in as a good citizen concerned about national security.

00:18:04.000 He wasn't.

00:18:05.000 He was coming in because he was being paid by Hillary Clinton.

00:18:07.000 He was doing this on behalf of Hillary Clinton and one of her computer execs that were supporting him.

00:18:12.000 So it's a long history of lying.

00:18:15.000 Let's dive deeper into this.

00:18:16.000 So just so everyone knows the tweet yesterday, Hillary Clinton comes out and tweets, Trump and Fox are desperately spinning up a fake scandal to distract from his real ones.

00:18:25.000 So it's a day that ends in why.

00:18:27.000 The more his misdeeds are exposed, the more they lie.

00:18:31.000 For those interested in reality, here's a good debunking of their latest nonsense.

00:18:35.000 And I expected like a New York Times or Washington Post article.

00:18:39.000 No, Vanity Fair.

00:18:41.000 That is now the authority from Clinton World, Vanity Fair.

00:18:45.000 And it's written by some smug person, Bess Levin.

00:18:49.000 You'll never believe it, but Hillary Clinton did not, in fact, spy on Trump's White House. 1.00

00:18:53.000 In breaking news, Donald Trump remains a moron. 0.99

00:18:57.000 So we know that's not true, but walk us through what we do know, John. 1.00

00:19:00.000 You've been on top of this better than almost any other journalist, I have to say.

00:19:05.000 I'm curious, though, did you hear previously or did you know at all that Hillary Clinton was spying on the White House?

00:19:14.000 That to me was just so shocking to learn.

00:19:17.000 Yeah, it is.

00:19:18.000 And let's describe what there's been some misreporting.

00:19:20.000 So I also want to knock down so people really can understand.

00:19:23.000 They didn't break into the White House.

00:19:25.000 That's an inappropriate terminology to use.

00:19:27.000 There were White House logs of when computers talk to each other, they leave behind fingerprints on the internet called DNS logs.

00:19:35.000 These are not things that are public.

00:19:36.000 In fact, if the FBI wanted to get them, they would either have to issue a national security letter or a warrant, according to the many agents I've talked to over the last couple of days.

00:19:44.000 So, this is privacy-protected information because it shows who you're talking with and communicating with on your computer.

00:19:50.000 We have an assumption of privacy.

00:19:52.000 They went in and got these logs and looked at these logs for Donald Trump's home, for Donald Trump's corporate office at Trump Tower, and for the office of the presidency.

00:20:01.000 Now, we don't know the timeframe.

00:20:02.000 Was it the time when Obama was in?

00:20:04.000 Was it the time Trump was in?

00:20:06.000 The court filing is ambiguous, so we shouldn't make an assumption.

00:20:09.000 But no matter who was president, the idea that some Hillary Clinton researchers are going to go in and access these logs, and it's important to describe how they access them. 0.95

00:20:18.000 They had a federal contract, somebody's computer, and according to the word that the prosecutors use, they exploited.

00:20:23.000 They misused their access to spy on Donald Trump so they could find, according, these are the words the prosecutors use, derogatory information on Donald Trump.

00:20:32.000 They were using, misusing a federal contract to dig for dirt on Donald Trump.

00:20:37.000 And it turns out that that dirt was false, inappropriate.

00:20:41.000 It's not breaking in, but it is spying.

00:20:41.000 It is spying.

00:20:44.000 And it is of a scandal magnitude.

00:20:46.000 I think it's sort of a modern day Watergate.

00:20:49.000 You're taking information.

00:20:51.000 It turns out to be false.

00:20:52.000 You're misusing your access.

00:20:54.000 And then you're giving it to the FBI and the CIA and trying to get a bogus investigation started of your political opponent.

00:21:00.000 I don't know how any Americans can feel good about that.

00:21:03.000 It doesn't matter whether there's an R or D next to the name.

00:21:06.000 It's just wrong to be doing that in American society.

00:21:08.000 So some people speculate that the intelligence agencies might have been in on this.

00:21:12.000 Do you think there's any credence to that argument?

00:21:15.000 I don't.

00:21:15.000 And let me tell you why.

00:21:16.000 I mean, listen, I think the federal contracts involve intelligence agencies.

00:21:20.000 So it's possible these contractors were using the authority that they had under the contracts.

00:21:24.000 But if you look at the CIA, for instance, for a lot of people, the big revelation was, oh, Michael Sussman, the lawyer, went to the CIA.

00:21:33.000 I broke that story a couple years ago.

00:21:34.000 So I've known about that for two years ago.

00:21:36.000 But in February of 2017, four months after Hillary's already lost, her people are still pitching bogus stories.

00:21:42.000 The CIA and the FBI did the right thing.

00:21:44.000 They looked at the information and said, you know what? 0.99

00:21:46.000 This is garbage. 0.99

00:21:47.000 We know what this is. 1.00

00:21:48.000 This is marketing pings.

00:21:49.000 It's not a secret communications channel.

00:21:52.000 And they dropped that line of inquiry very quickly.

00:21:56.000 Like I know in October 2016, the FBI had already ruled it out.

00:22:00.000 They've told me that. 0.98

00:22:01.000 So the intelligence agencies get this garbage. 0.98

00:22:03.000 They immediately rule it out and they drop it. 0.98

00:22:06.000 And then they just keep persisting at it. 0.95

00:22:08.000 One of the things you see in the Russia scandal is every time a person in authority decided that what Hillary Clinton was pitching was garbage, they just went somewhere else.

00:22:18.000 So Christopher Steele starts at the London FBI.

00:22:20.000 He gets turned down there.

00:22:21.000 He comes to Bruce Orr in Washington.

00:22:23.000 He gets it inside the FBI here.

00:22:24.000 The FBI fires his tail because he's leaking and abusing his right as a confidential human source.

00:22:32.000 They fire him.

00:22:33.000 Then all of a sudden, the Clinton campaign starts another line.

00:22:35.000 Well, Michael Sussman, former justice official, he's going to go to the FBI.

00:22:39.000 The FBI doesn't like what he has.

00:22:40.000 Then they skip there and they go to the CIA.

00:22:43.000 This was a relentless effort to push false information on the U.S. government in hopes that Donald Trump would be investigated.

00:22:51.000 That is something we shouldn't do, even in a political dirty trick.

00:22:54.000 No, I mean, never.

00:22:56.000 Of course not.

00:22:56.000 And I really hope that people will be held accountable.

00:22:59.000 What was Mark Elias' role in all this?

00:23:01.000 He keeps on popping up in a variety of different ways, redistricting.

00:23:04.000 He's now running Black Lives Matter.

00:23:05.000 It's super weird.

00:23:06.000 What was his role in all of this?

00:23:08.000 Yeah, listen, he's a super lawyer in the Democratic Party.

00:23:11.000 He has lots of different connections to things.

00:23:13.000 In 2020, he was the guy trying to change the election rules.

00:23:16.000 He wrote many memos.

00:23:17.000 So he's integral to all of the Democratic Party's things.

00:23:20.000 And in 2016, he's the general counsel for the Clearly Clinton campaign working at Perkins Cooey.

00:23:27.000 He's the guy in his law firm that hires Christopher Steele for the dirty dossier.

00:23:31.000 And he's the guy that is a supervisor for Sussman and in some way involved supervising this project where Sussman ultimately goes and goes to the FBI and dumps it and then goes to the CIA and dumps this false story.

00:23:43.000 We now know it to be totally bogus story that there was a Alpha Bank server and Donald Trump could pick up a secret computer line and talk to Vladimir Putin about how they were going to hijack the election.

00:23:54.000 It didn't happen.

00:23:55.000 One of the great moments in Bob Mueller's terrible testimony day, if everyone remembers when Mueller testified, he looked very disheveled and disoriented for most of it.

00:24:03.000 The one time he had an incredible amount of clarity.

00:24:05.000 He was asked, hey, this Alpha Bank thing, what do you think of it?

00:24:08.000 And he said, it was never true, never true.

00:24:11.000 So this has been debunked over and over again.

00:24:13.000 And Hillary Clinton's people just keep doubling down on falsehoods. 1.00

00:24:16.000 And if prosecutor Durham and his team prove this case, and I should note, breaking news, just a few minutes ago, Michael Sussman filed a motion asking for the charges against him to be dismissed.

00:24:28.000 We'll see what happens.

00:24:29.000 But if this gets to trial and he gets convicted, the headline for history for Hillary Clinton is going to be, the Hillary Clinton campaign spied on Donald Trump, and then they lied about it.

00:24:40.000 They spied and they lied.

00:24:41.000 That will be her legacy in the history books for America.

00:24:44.000 Yeah, how high do you think it's going to go?

00:24:45.000 Jake Sullivan, how implicated is he in this?

00:24:49.000 Listen, everybody we know had a role.

00:24:52.000 We know Mrs. Clinton was informed a couple of times.

00:24:54.000 We know there's an intercept that the FBI got from the CIA saying that she approved this whole plan to come up with a bogus story, a contrived story about Donald Trump and feed it to her because her motive was to get the attention off the scandal she had with emails.

00:25:08.000 She's in the know.

00:25:09.000 How much?

00:25:09.000 Does she know every little detail?

00:25:10.000 Probably not.

00:25:12.000 Does Jake Sullivan's in the know because he's out tweeting this bad story in October of 2016?

00:25:17.000 Were they read into every aspect?

00:25:19.000 Are they told that people are looking at the DNS logs?

00:25:22.000 Probably not at that level.

00:25:23.000 You probably get a much broader, simpler, boiled-down version.

00:25:27.000 But the fact of the matter is responsibility stops with the top of the campaign.

00:25:31.000 Hillary Clinton can laugh and call this a fake story. 1.00

00:25:34.000 It's not, and it starts with her, and then it goes to her campaign chairman, John Podesta, and then to people like Jake Sullivan.

00:25:40.000 I interviewed Dan Hoffman, the former CIA station chief for Barack Obama in Moscow, our best Russia guy.

00:25:47.000 And he said he could not believe Jake Sullivan tweeted this out in October 2016 without looking at it more seriously.

00:25:53.000 People like Jake Sullivan have authority.

00:25:55.000 They should check their facts before they pander a story.

00:25:58.000 And he really dug into him.

00:25:59.000 And this is a guy that's, you know, sort of nonpartisan.

00:26:02.000 I think those are fair criticisms of Hillary Clinton, Jake, and others around him.

00:26:07.000 Jake Sullivan and John Podesta, they were peddling something we now know was false and consumed the American public for three years and really harmed the Donald Trump presidency unfairly.

00:26:17.000 So something I want to ask you about, John, you covered this extensively as well, is this infamous White House meeting.

00:26:22.000 I think it was like January 7th or 8th in 2017.

00:26:25.000 It was the lame dock a couple weeks before.

00:26:27.000 You know what meeting I'm talking about, where it was a multi-hour meeting in the White House.

00:26:32.000 Is that connected to this at all?

00:26:34.000 Because we do know that there were some decisions that were made.

00:26:37.000 It was an all-hands-on-deck meeting, which was very rare for the White House at that time.

00:26:41.000 When you look at this, by January of 2017, a lot of people know that the Christopher Steele dossier, which was one of their first firing attempts at Trump, it failed, right?

00:26:51.000 The FBI wasn't that fond of it.

00:26:53.000 It was falling apart.

00:26:54.000 People were disowning it.

00:26:56.000 The George Papadopoulos allegations had been rolled out because an informant interviewed him and Papadopoulos said, we weren't trying to hack Hillary Clinton's emails.

00:27:03.000 That's not true.

00:27:04.000 So a lot of the early dirt that Hillary Clinton threw at the Trump campaign had fallen apart.

00:27:08.000 So they were pivoting.

00:27:09.000 What will still stick?

00:27:10.000 What can we still go after?

00:27:12.000 And in that January timeframe, they're talking about pivoting from Papadopoulos and Carter Page and Christopher Steele's now discredited dossier to, we're going to focus on Mike Flynn.

00:27:22.000 Let's go get Mike Flynn.

00:27:24.000 And it's not long after that meeting where they're talking about Flynn that the famous leak of a highly classified transcript is put into the Washington Post, a terrible intelligence leak.

00:27:35.000 And they just keep pivoting because what they were doing was they were looking for anything that would stick on Donald Trump.

00:27:40.000 were desperate to find some shingle of a Russia scandal and hang it on Donald Trump's roof.

00:27:45.000 And it didn't matter who was involved or whether it was true.

00:27:48.000 They were looking for something to stick.

00:27:50.000 And they were willing to do a full court press.

00:27:52.000 Michael Flynn was entrapped before Trump was sworn in.

00:27:55.000 And that we know that that was discussed.

00:27:57.000 They hated Flynn.

00:27:57.000 Obama hated Flynn for years.

00:27:59.000 And that was easy.

00:28:00.000 And they deployed Strzok to do that.

00:28:03.000 It was a setup.

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00:29:10.000 There's another component of this that I don't think people are talking about, which is the Peter Struck Lisa page of this component, which is going back into that summer, because their text messages are really revealing.

00:29:19.000 And the question is, was this part of the insurance plan of this DNS thing and the tech firm?

00:29:25.000 How much was the FBI really involved in it from coaching the Clinton campaign?

00:29:31.000 I'm interested in that.

00:29:32.000 Maybe we don't know.

00:29:32.000 So is that a separate track on all this or is this related?

00:29:36.000 That's where I'm a little uncertain.

00:29:38.000 Suspended.

00:29:39.000 There are two pots for the investigation.

00:29:41.000 One is, were the Clinton people knowingly and willingly feeding false information, misleading information, lying about their intentions to the FBI, the CIA?

00:29:49.000 That's the pot that gets Michael Sussman in trouble.

00:29:52.000 It's the pot that gets Christopher Steele's primary source, Igor Danchenko, in trouble.

00:29:56.000 So the Clinton part of crafting a false story and feeding it into the government.

00:30:01.000 The second pot is, did the FBI have reason to know that what it was receiving was bad information?

00:30:07.000 And did they hide the fact, the weaknesses, the failures, the falsity of their case as they went about and got four consecutive FISA warrants to spy in people like Carter Page?

00:30:17.000 And so there's been one indictment there of a lawyer who falsified a document, an FBI lawyer, changing the meaning of a document to keep the cover-up going.

00:30:25.000 There are many others in the FBI still under investigation.

00:30:27.000 That's the second bucket. 0.99

00:30:29.000 What do we know now that we didn't know a year or two ago before Donald Trump left office?

00:30:33.000 Probably the most damning thing we know, thanks to John Ratcliffe, the former DNI, is that starting in July, the President of the United States, Barack Obama, July 2016, he's told we have an intercept that Hillary Clinton has approved a plan.

00:30:46.000 In fact, there's an intercept of a foreign policy advisor to Hillary Clinton campaign.

00:30:51.000 We believe that may be Jake Sullivan talking to someone overseas.

00:30:54.000 It's been intercepted.

00:30:55.000 And it says that Hillary Clinton has approved a plan to come up with a bogus story and stick it on Donald Trump that he's got a Russia problem to get the public attention off of her email scandal.

00:31:08.000 So the president of the United States, Barack Obama, is told that from the CIA director in July.

00:31:12.000 In September, the FBI gets the same information.

00:31:15.000 The CIA writes a memo, very rare for the CIA to do this.

00:31:19.000 Hey, guys at FBI, it looks like you're looking at Donald Trump.

00:31:21.000 Please know he got an intercept that Hillary Clinton is trying to concoct a story.

00:31:26.000 Be on your lookout.

00:31:27.000 I forgot about that.

00:31:28.000 Wow.

00:31:28.000 That's such an important memo.

00:31:30.000 And then all through the fall, they're telling the FBI, hey, that guy, Carter Page, that you think's a stooge for Russia, he's one of our guys.

00:31:37.000 Hey, that Christopher Steele, you think, is a good source?

00:31:40.000 We think you should re-vet him.

00:31:41.000 He's been infiltrated by Russian oligarchs.

00:31:44.000 25, 30 warning signs from July 2016 to March of 2017 that I've chronicled, and the FBI blew past every one of them, hid it from the FISA court.

00:31:56.000 And I think people are going to have to judge.

00:31:57.000 Is that the sort of FBI we want?

00:31:59.000 I think the Comey McCabe years of the FBI are going to be a shameful period in FBI's history.

00:32:04.000 So, and the final question here, John, this might be a technical question.

00:32:07.000 So, there's some criticism going towards Durham that he filed this two days after the statute of most federal limitations.

00:32:15.000 Did you see this happen or not?

00:32:18.000 Do you think there's anything to that?

00:32:20.000 Or do you think that, because at times they can extend the statute of limitations?

00:32:24.000 Yeah, there's two ways to do that, right?

00:32:26.000 There's a tolling agreement.

00:32:27.000 You sit with your defendants and say, we are going to indict you now, but if you work with us and negotiate, maybe we won't.

00:32:32.000 And you get a tolling agreement.

00:32:34.000 None of the Clinton people are going to agree to a tolling agreement.

00:32:36.000 So just take that off the table.

00:32:37.000 The second way is when a statute for a specific crime expires, you can extend the statute if you allege that there's a conspiracy, a racketarian conspiracy.

00:32:46.000 And I believe what John Durham is beginning to let out in these court documents.

00:32:50.000 These are experts I'm talking to, former FBI agents and prosecutors.

00:32:54.000 They believe there's a conspiracy case being built, which can extend the statute to an unlimited amount of time.

00:33:00.000 Multiple people working together to concoct a false story, feed the false story to the government, and then the government take the false story and feed it to the courts and Congress.

00:33:09.000 And I think a lot of people believe they're pursuing a conspiracy case, in which case the statute of limitations on any specific event gets extended to the last event of a conspiracy.

00:33:19.000 Right.

00:33:19.000 So there might not be something to that.

00:33:21.000 There were some people online that were like, oh, he did it just to kind of leak the information, but the statute's there.

00:33:27.000 I don't buy that. 0.99

00:33:28.000 That would be strategically stupid. 0.99

00:33:30.000 And he seems to be really focused on justice here. 0.99

00:33:35.000 And I agree.

00:33:36.000 I know a lot of people criticize Bill Barr, and I get it, but Bill Barr put Durham in this position because I think Barr was presented with this evidence.

00:33:44.000 And he realized no matter who's going to be president, this has to play itself out.

00:33:48.000 And I'm more optimistic on the Durham thing than I was a month ago or two months ago.

00:33:53.000 Justthennews.com.

00:33:54.000 John, you do amazing work.

00:33:56.000 Please come back soon.

00:33:56.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:33:57.000 Anytime.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - February 18, 2022

Hillary Clinton's History of Lawlessness with John Solomon

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