The Charlie Kirk Show - December 09, 2025


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Erica Kirk joins the Charlie Kirk Show to talk about her new book, Stop in the Name of God. Jasmine Crockett announces her run for the U.S. Senate seat in Texas. The Streisand Effect.

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.
00:00:19.000 But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful.
00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.
00:00:26.000 You got to stop sending your kids to college.
00:00:27.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.
00:00:31.000 Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter.
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00:00:37.000 Sign up and become an activist.
00:00:39.000 I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade.
00:00:41.000 Most important decision I ever made in my life.
00:00:43.000 And I encourage you to do the same.
00:00:45.000 Here I am.
00:00:46.000 Lord, use me.
00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:49.000 Here we go.
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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:11.000 Andrew Colvett here.
00:01:13.000 Honored to be with you.
00:01:14.000 Today is launch day of Charlie's last book, Blake.
00:01:18.000 Stop in the Name of God.
00:01:19.000 Erica Kirk has been in New York doing media. 0.56
00:01:23.000 I think today she's Fox and French.
00:01:26.000 She did Hannity last night.
00:01:28.000 I think she's going to be co-hosting the Five today, which is very exciting.
00:01:32.000 And she's going to...
00:01:33.000 If you're the sort of person who watches the Five.
00:01:35.000 If you're the, yeah, well, I mean, actually, I think the Five is actually, maybe people don't know this.
00:01:40.000 I think it's the top-rated show on the network, on that network, with Greg.
00:01:44.000 A lot of people do like it.
00:01:45.000 Yeah, no, it's a very popular show.
00:01:48.000 And then she's going to be joining us in the top of hour two today.
00:01:52.000 So Erica Kirk will be joining the Charlie Kirk show at 1 p.m. Eastern, 10 a.m. Pacific.
00:01:59.000 So, guys, are going to stay tuned for that.
00:02:01.000 And she's going to be talking about the book, this right here.
00:02:04.000 I also have it in my hand, Stop in the Name of God, Charlie's last book.
00:02:08.000 And this was a labor of absolute love from Charlie.
00:02:12.000 He spent over a year working on it, jotting down notes, reflections, meditating on it.
00:02:15.000 It's deeply personal.
00:02:18.000 I think Erica said it really well, actually, on Hannity.
00:02:21.000 I don't want to get ahead of ourselves here because we are going to be talking about it with Erica.
00:02:24.000 But this, Charlie learning how to rest one day a week was what helped him level up.
00:02:29.000 It was what really took him.
00:02:31.000 He was amazing, amazing.
00:02:33.000 But then when he did this, he became even more amazing, effective, better leader, and so many things.
00:02:39.000 So we've got the artwork back there.
00:02:42.000 The team got it done and put it up there.
00:02:44.000 And lots of news to cover in the meantime.
00:02:46.000 So let's just get out the gate real well here. 1.00
00:02:50.000 Jasmine Crockett has decided to run for Senate.
00:02:53.000 And I feel obligated to at least lead with this. 1.00
00:02:58.000 You know, Jasmine Crockett is a very fiery figure out of Texas. 1.00
00:03:05.000 She has risen to prominence by basically being flamboyantly, aggressively, obnoxiously insensitive, saying wild things, saying anti-white things, anti-Trump things, anti-conservative things. 1.00
00:03:19.000 So let's just hear her in her own words, why she's announcing her run for Senate, 181. 0.71
00:03:23.000 There are a lot of people that said, you got to stay in the house.
00:03:28.000 We need our voice.
00:03:29.000 We need you there.
00:03:32.000 And I understand.
00:03:34.000 But what we need is for me to have a bigger voice.
00:03:39.000 As if that was...
00:03:40.000 It's whatever.
00:03:42.000 Do we have this?
00:03:43.000 We played it in the cold open, I saw. 1.00
00:03:45.000 The best part was, is she uploaded a video to announce that's her just sitting there impassively while they play clips of Donald Trump saying she's really stupid? 1.00
00:03:55.000 And well, this is what happens, right? 1.00
00:03:57.000 I mean, if you go after somebody, it actually raises their profile, right?
00:04:01.000 It's the Barbara Streisand effect.
00:04:03.000 The Streisand effect is where, you know, I guess it goes back to where Streisand wanted to keep her privacy intact, and then she ended up fighting back against somebody taking, you know, exposing her home address.
00:04:15.000 Which made everyone see.
00:04:16.000 Which made everybody see her home address.
00:04:19.000 So it worked against her. 0.82
00:04:20.000 So it's called the Streisand effect.
00:04:22.000 And you have this in politics, right?
00:04:25.000 Senator Mark Kelly says some crazy things that are, you know, eerily similar to a coup, a military coup, encouraging that subversion.
00:04:36.000 And guess what?
00:04:37.000 Now he is in many new polls.
00:04:40.000 It's like Gavin Newsom Mark Kelly is who the Democrats think is the most viable candidate to run for president in 2028.
00:04:46.000 Which could be risky because I think Mark Kelly would be a more dangerous candidate.
00:04:49.000 Jasmine Crockett, for example.
00:04:49.000 Well, I'm just saying.
00:04:51.000 Exactly.
00:04:51.000 But this is what we have.
00:04:52.000 Jasmine Crockett says all these crazy things. 0.99
00:04:55.000 We say she's crazy.
00:04:56.000 And all of a sudden, that's all it takes for her profile to be raised. 0.80
00:05:00.000 So let's pick our enemies very carefully here. 1.00
00:05:03.000 But in the case of Jasmine Crockett, I think this is a good choice because she is so insane. 1.00
00:05:07.000 And I think she's going to have a heck of an uphill battle in the state of Texas. 1.00
00:05:11.000 Let's play 184. 1.00
00:05:13.000 This is her comparing herself to being the next Barack Hussein Obama. 1.00
00:05:17.000 184.
00:05:18.000 There was this charismatic, funny, intelligent, and exciting young candidate with a funny name who just got into the U.S. Senate and was running for president.
00:05:30.000 Many doubted if this country was ready, while others, well, we got to work and kept hope alive.
00:05:38.000 Yes, we can.
00:05:41.000 Yes, I'm talking about President Barack Obama.
00:05:45.000 She left out the Hussein Obama. 0.56
00:05:47.000 Charlie would always say it.
00:05:49.000 I think because Russia always did it. 0.98
00:05:50.000 Yeah, he always imitated it.
00:05:52.000 It was an ode to Rush.
00:05:53.000 And of course, narrator, the country was not ready for Barack Obama.
00:05:56.000 No, not remotely.
00:05:57.000 The country was not.
00:05:59.000 But this is what's crazy. 1.00
00:06:00.000 She's so crazy that she, we've got so many great clips on Jasmine Crockett.
00:06:07.000 And this is an interesting clip. 0.84
00:06:08.000 This is when she was saying she's open to ending taxes on black because she's in favor of reparations, but she admits that many are not already paying taxes.
00:06:17.000 176.
00:06:18.000 One of the things that they propose is black folk not have to pay taxes.
00:06:21.000 And I was like, I don't know that that's not necessarily a bad idea.
00:06:24.000 Then you start dealing with the different tax brackets and things like that.
00:06:27.000 And that's one of the reasons that, you know, we argue the reparations make sense because so many black folk, not only do you owe for the labor that was stolen and killed and all the other things, right?
00:06:40.000 But the fact is, like, we end up being so far behind, right?
00:06:43.000 And so it's like, how do you bring forth people?
00:06:46.000 Exactly.
00:06:47.000 And so it's like, if you do the no tax thing for people that are already, say, struggling and aren't really paying taxes in the first place, it doesn't really exactly.
00:06:58.000 They may want those checks like they got exerted.
00:07:01.000 Exactly.
00:07:03.000 So that's her admitting that, you know, reparations is a flawed endeavor to begin with.
00:07:11.000 We could keep going.
00:07:12.000 She says she doesn't need to win over Trump supporters to do this.
00:07:15.000 Now, Trump carried Texas by 14 points.
00:07:18.000 So if I'm just doing the math here, I've got to question her logic here, Blake.
00:07:24.000 178.
00:07:25.000 How will you convert those who are supportive of him to voters for you?
00:07:29.000 Yeah, I don't know that we'll necessarily convert all of Trump supporters.
00:07:33.000 That's not our goal.
00:07:34.000 Our goal is to definitely talk to people.
00:07:34.000 Do you need to?
00:07:37.000 No, we don't.
00:07:38.000 We don't need to.
00:07:41.000 They got to get some.
00:07:42.000 They got to get some.
00:07:44.000 So this is a good reason to be optimistic because Jasmine Kroc, one of her opponents has already basically dropped out in response to this, decided, let's pack up and go home.
00:07:54.000 But Older people will remember a candidate.
00:07:58.000 I say older people like it's ages ago, but it was only about a decade ago.
00:08:02.000 But there's been a pattern.
00:08:04.000 Democrats are really addicted to the idea of flipping Texas.
00:08:08.000 It's kind of similar to how we'll often be contacted by conservatives in California.
00:08:13.000 They often dream of flipping California red, the whole state, not just house districts.
00:08:18.000 And we often have to say, we support you.
00:08:20.000 We should work as hard as we can, but it's not the immediate priority now because it's difficult and expensive, and we're not close to doing it.
00:08:28.000 Democrats do this a lot with the state of Texas, where they get hyped up that they're going to flip the state in a big statewide race, Blue, and they spend tons of money on it.
00:08:37.000 So let's throw up. 1.00
00:08:38.000 A decade ago, we had Wendy Davis. 0.98
00:08:40.000 She gave a filibuster speech on the floor of, I believe, the Texas state Senate over an abortion bill.
00:08:46.000 And so they made her a big national hero.
00:08:50.000 She ran for governor and she got steamrolled massively by Governor Abbott.
00:08:50.000 She got a ton of money.
00:08:55.000 And then they did it with Beter O'Rourke running for Senator.
00:08:57.000 Beto got close.
00:08:58.000 He got a lot of attention.
00:09:00.000 They spent like three points.
00:09:01.000 Well, don't egg them on.
00:09:02.000 Don't egg them on here.
00:09:03.000 The point is, they spent a lot of money on it.
00:09:05.000 They did spend a lot of time on it.
00:09:06.000 And that's probably why we got Governor Ron DeSantis, for example.
00:09:09.000 If they'd taken that money and rolled it over to Florida, we probably don't win that race by, man, it was under $100,000.
00:09:14.000 30,000 votes or something like that.
00:09:17.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, if they want to roll her out there and see what they can get done, that's fine. 0.90
00:09:22.000 I hope they spend a lot of money on Jasmine Crockett.
00:09:24.000 I hope they spend so much money backing Jasmine Crockett.
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00:10:32.000 So there is a case that is going to be heard by the Supreme Court that is making some serious waves.
00:10:38.000 So this is here from Axios.
00:10:40.000 You guys can throw the graphic up.
00:10:41.000 Senior Trump advisors are telling GOP donors that a pair of upcoming Supreme Court decisions are likely to bolster Republicans in the 2026 midterms and transform the party's power to win elections for years.
00:10:53.000 So this is coming straight from Chris Lasavita, Tony Fabrizio, which are top Trump lieutenants.
00:11:00.000 And they are talking about this case, Louisiana versus, I think it's pronounced Calais.
00:11:07.000 I would think.
00:11:08.000 Calais.
00:11:10.000 Whatever.
00:11:10.000 Whatever.
00:11:11.000 So Louisiana v. Calais.
00:11:13.000 It's a French name.
00:11:14.000 And then when they're in Louisiana a long time, they start pronouncing it differently.
00:11:19.000 That's how we got Brett Favre of all that stuff.
00:11:21.000 Favre.
00:11:23.000 So what this is, is it's about a very, I would say, kind of long-standing precedent now.
00:11:31.000 It goes back to the Voting Rights Act of Section 2, the Voting Rights Act, which came in 1965.
00:11:37.000 And what that section does is it prohibits the dilution of minority voting power in congressional redistricting plans.
00:11:44.000 So what this does in practice is it will take a district that is, or it will create a district that is a majority minority district.
00:11:53.000 So if you have a predominant black community in Louisiana, for example, and this is where this case goes down to, they will design a district to give a black community a representative for the black community.
00:12:06.000 In the case of Louisiana, they have two predominantly black congressional districts.
00:12:12.000 Yeah, that was a recent court rule.
00:12:14.000 And they're going to make a second one.
00:12:15.000 Well, this is one of those.
00:12:16.000 This is very mutant-looking.
00:12:17.000 It's very mutant-looking, but what it's supposed to be doing is at least in theory, they will argue that this is what allows them to have equal representation.
00:12:29.000 So that black voters in the South specifically will have black representatives, right?
00:12:35.000 But it is being challenged as racist.
00:12:38.000 Now, why this is key is because Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, the core provision that protects against racially discriminatory voting maps, that's how they would put it, the left, if struck down, it would be the most significant rollback of this Voting Rights Act since what they say, Shelby County versus Holder in 2013.
00:13:02.000 But here's what else, this is what's crazy, is that this could at least, it could flip 19 seats.
00:13:11.000 Up to.
00:13:12.000 Up to.
00:13:13.000 So that's 19 congressional seats.
00:13:15.000 And the left is warning about this.
00:13:18.000 They're writing white papers on this, publishing these things.
00:13:21.000 And they are saying that if you add that to some of these congressional redistricting fights that we're having in Indiana and we're having in Missouri and Florida and Ohio, that could total up to 27 seats going in our direction.
00:13:36.000 And that's not even counting, I believe, Texas, which has already now done it.
00:13:40.000 And we had that success.
00:13:41.000 Well, that might reduce the total, I think.
00:13:43.000 Okay, but here's the point.
00:13:45.000 19 seats, especially in the South, are connected to this 1965 Voting Rights Act, Section 2, which is making gerrymandered seats for majority-minority districts.
00:13:58.000 Now, you have to be careful because I always have to have the caveat here, which is there are a lot of seats in blue states that exist this way as well, where because of Section 2, they say, okay, here in Chicago, for example, you need to make this giant, like there's actually infamous districts in Chicago where they have this all-black district and then they have the Hispanic district that surrounds it kind of like a pair of earmuffs, is famously what it looks like.
00:14:23.000 And so Democrat states do create this as well.
00:14:26.000 So that could mitigate it.
00:14:28.000 The big picture thing is we've had this very artificial approach to our house maps that was imposed a half century ago for an understandable purpose, which is that we had the Jim Crow system that really did deny black Americans the right to vote.
00:14:45.000 And you could argue you needed some sort of harsh measure to break that.
00:14:48.000 That's why we abolished the poll tax.
00:14:50.000 That's why we abolished some of the literacy tests that they used and were famously rigged against black Americans.
00:14:57.000 But a half century on, black Americans have the same voting rights, voting rights and voting rates as white Americans.
00:15:04.000 They are not being denied the right to vote.
00:15:07.000 Instead, this is always a cudgel that is just used to deliver the left political wins.
00:15:12.000 Oh, we can't have basic voter ID because actually that's a way to bring back Jim Crow. 0.89
00:15:17.000 And similar here, you can't have a house map decided democratically at your state level because we've had a court order how you're going to draw it.
00:15:26.000 And it never applies to Democrats, of course.
00:15:28.000 Democrats are actually totally allowed to gerrymander however they want because they're doing it for political reasons, racist reasons.
00:15:34.000 Yeah, but here's what I would say.
00:15:35.000 The liberal-leaning Fair Fight Action Group is freaking out about this.
00:15:40.000 They are freaking out about this.
00:15:42.000 And they are admitting that if this is overturned, it will benefit us much more.
00:15:46.000 And here's the key.
00:15:47.000 Oral arguments are heard Tuesday, which is today.
00:15:51.000 So for this case in which the justice will decide whether to eliminate the federal law.
00:15:56.000 And so that's a big deal.
00:15:59.000 Let's see if it helps us because they have to decide it soon enough.
00:16:02.000 Otherwise, we can't redraw the story.
00:16:03.000 So if they do it quickly.
00:16:04.000 2028 could help us out.
00:16:05.000 Yes, if they do it quick enough, it'll impact 2026.
00:16:08.000 If they don't, 2028 for sure.
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00:17:13.000 All right.
00:17:14.000 Very, very excited about this next conversation because it's so important.
00:17:19.000 We are going to be welcoming Caleb Chilcott.
00:17:21.000 He is the UVU chapter president for Turning Point USA there in Utah.
00:17:27.000 Of course, that is where Charlie was assassinated on September 10th.
00:17:32.000 And Caleb has been an absolute rock star and actually met him briefly over the weekend at the gala.
00:17:38.000 So welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, Caleb.
00:17:40.000 It's an honor to have you here.
00:17:42.000 Thank you guys so much.
00:17:43.000 This is a real honor.
00:17:44.000 I'm super excited to be here.
00:17:46.000 And just in case people are wondering, Caleb, you are from Australia.
00:17:51.000 That is an accent that they're talking about.
00:17:52.000 That's why his hair is so poofy.
00:17:54.000 He's actually upside down.
00:17:55.000 Yeah, you are.
00:17:56.000 Yeah, I'm on the ceiling right now.
00:17:57.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:18:01.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:18:02.000 Well, it was great meeting you briefly.
00:18:03.000 You were absolutely phenomenal at the gala.
00:18:06.000 You said a few words.
00:18:08.000 Thank you.
00:18:08.000 Why don't we start there before we get into this story?
00:18:10.000 We've got 10 minutes in this segment.
00:18:13.000 Tell us about the chapter in the aftermath of what happened to Charlie there.
00:18:18.000 And tell us, how are you doing?
00:18:20.000 How is the chapter doing?
00:18:21.000 How are the students doing?
00:18:22.000 Yeah, it's been honestly incredible.
00:18:25.000 Our chapter was a small, probably got 100 active members.
00:18:29.000 I would get about 20 people maximum per event.
00:18:32.000 But then after Charlie's death, we've just seen an explosion in activity.
00:18:38.000 The campus website says we now over have 400 members.
00:18:42.000 Our Instagram has gotten over 5,000 plus followers.
00:18:42.000 Wow.
00:18:47.000 And our events average 40 plus people.
00:18:50.000 So we've more than doubled our events.
00:18:53.000 That's phenomenal.
00:18:54.000 And how are the students doing, though?
00:18:56.000 I mean, some of you guys, I mean, you were the last students to get pictures with Charlie.
00:19:03.000 I mean, just, I mean, it was incredibly traumatic.
00:19:06.000 It's still traumatic for so many of us.
00:19:08.000 And, you know, I just, I have worried about some of you guys at the campus level there because it was, I mean, an unthinkable thing happened right in front of you.
00:19:18.000 Yeah, thankfully, yeah, the students have been doing really well.
00:19:21.000 The UVU did offer free mental health services and other facilities to kind of help us out dealing with the process what we all witnessed.
00:19:29.000 But the students, they're fired up.
00:19:32.000 My students, they're ready to keep marching forward.
00:19:35.000 Our chapter is becoming a stronghold and it's going to be a legacy that is going to last a lifetime.
00:19:40.000 Yeah, wonderful.
00:19:41.000 Well, and talking about legacies that are going to last a lifetime.
00:19:44.000 So as soon as this happened with Charlie, there was talk of a Charlie Kirk memorial on campus.
00:19:50.000 And unfortunately, that is now coming into question.
00:19:55.000 Let's go ahead and play this cut really quick.
00:19:56.000 214.
00:19:58.000 Like it when the campus comes together.
00:20:00.000 That's where I want to memorialize.
00:20:01.000 I want to memorialize campus coming together as one student body in the face of this great tragedy.
00:20:07.000 You want a memorial for unity.
00:20:09.000 Yes, exactly.
00:20:10.000 Because unity died on September 10th, not Charlie Kirk.
00:20:13.000 Yes.
00:20:15.000 Okay, so they, instead of a Charlie Kirk memorial, they want a unity memorial, Blake.
00:20:21.000 Does that make any sense at all?
00:20:23.000 I guess we'll have unity between the side that was fired upon and the side that fired, I suppose.
00:20:35.000 Yeah, please help make sense for this.
00:20:38.000 What is actually happening on campus?
00:20:39.000 And is this Unity Memorial in place of a Charlie Kirk memorial actually gaining any traction here, Caleb?
00:20:46.000 I'm not too sure about that, to be honest.
00:20:49.000 This is definitely a case of the loud minority versus the silent majority.
00:20:54.000 I haven't met a single student, and we talk to hundreds of students each week who want a unity memorial.
00:21:01.000 Everyone I've talked to want something to honor Charlie under what he stood for.
00:21:05.000 And yeah, it's just this small, very small, but super loud voices that are what we're hearing right now across the country and the campus.
00:21:14.000 Well, I mean, but don't they realize that this would be burying the truth of what really happened?
00:21:19.000 I mean, this would be a disgrace to the tragedy that unfolded at that campus to call it anything other than the Charlie Kirk Memorial.
00:21:27.000 And, you know, it's, cannot say this enough.
00:21:30.000 An indoctrinated leftist murdered Charlie Kirk in cold blood in front of all of us.
00:21:38.000 There's no unity with that.
00:21:40.000 And Charlie gave his life for free speech, for this country.
00:21:45.000 I just, I can't think of anything more insulting than taking Charlie's name off of a memorial and putting in its place some left-wing, deranged unity project or whatever that is.
00:21:58.000 So, Caleb, are you telling us that this is not gaining any real traction?
00:22:02.000 Have you talked to the administration?
00:22:04.000 Have you talked to anybody at the school that has any authority over this?
00:22:08.000 Yeah, I've talked to a couple of the people on the memorial committee.
00:22:13.000 Thankfully, it's very reassuring that about 90% of them have come to me and told me they are huge Charlie Kirk fans.
00:22:19.000 They loved what he stood for.
00:22:20.000 They love the message that he preaches.
00:22:23.000 So that gives me some hope.
00:22:26.000 But the real issue for me is that it's just, there's no traction.
00:22:30.000 The last I heard was about a month ago where they took a tour of the courtyard.
00:22:34.000 And the next time they're meeting to discuss the memorial is going to be sometime in January.
00:22:40.000 So the process has taken very, very slowly.
00:22:43.000 But from what I've seen, the people who are constructing this memorial were in good hands.
00:22:49.000 That's good.
00:22:50.000 Do you just worry that pushing it back, the goal is to just, you know, the process is the punishment, delay it out, keep it from happening?
00:22:59.000 Yeah, that's what I'm concerned about.
00:23:00.000 I was worried about that.
00:23:01.000 If you can push that long, the people who are directly affected have graduated.
00:23:05.000 Yeah, the further away from the event that you get, the more leverage they're going to have if there is some sort of slow walk attempt going here.
00:23:13.000 And that is one of my biggest concerns is that with how long this process is taking, that the people who are fired up who want to honor Charlie the right way because of how long this is taking, their voices are going to die down.
00:23:26.000 And this loud minority, they're just going to keep on getting louder. 0.70
00:23:30.000 And I fear that that's going to influence the committee.
00:23:34.000 So what I've been trying to do is kind of be a, I guess, whispering in their ears just to make sure they're still in the right direction and that they're not going to honor Charlie's name in a very underwhelming way.
00:23:46.000 Yeah, and I'm glad you're doing that, Caleb.
00:23:48.000 And you got to let us know if we need to do anything to help spread the word there because if they do this, it will be one of the, if they attempt it in any serious form, it is going to be an outrage of epic proportions,
00:24:01.000 and we will absolutely get loud because I would say the least that this campus could do or should do for the biggest, highest profile political assassination since the 1960s in this country is to at least memorialize it properly with the actual person whose life was lost and taken.
00:24:21.000 I don't know.
00:24:23.000 Can you describe, do you know, assuming they don't sabotage it, is there a concrete vision for what it might look like that we can anticipate?
00:24:32.000 Not yet.
00:24:33.000 I know one of the memorial committee members is a Utah senator, Senator McKay.
00:24:38.000 He proposed a bench with a Bible and a microphone on it with Charlie's initials on that.
00:24:45.000 But other people really want a statue of Charlie, a bust of Charlie, a plaque, like literally anything.
00:24:50.000 And we've had nothing.
00:24:52.000 We've had no concrete plans right now.
00:24:54.000 It should be.
00:24:54.000 You know what?
00:24:56.000 Here's my vote.
00:24:57.000 Just throwing out an idea here.
00:24:59.000 Erica loves this picture, too, of Charlie throwing out that hat that day.
00:25:04.000 She posted it with the freedom shirt and the hat coming out of his hand right where he did that.
00:25:10.000 That would be a good idea.
00:25:12.000 That would be good.
00:25:13.000 I'd be torn between that and him at the table.
00:25:17.000 Prove me wrong with the microphone.
00:25:18.000 Microphone in hand.
00:25:19.000 That would be good.
00:25:19.000 I'm going to debate.
00:25:20.000 Both would be a very good to me.
00:25:23.000 Yeah.
00:25:23.000 So Senator Mike Lee from the great state of Utah has chimed in here.
00:25:27.000 He says creating a memorial to unity at UVU instead of a memorial to Charlie Kirk would insult Charlie's memory, family, and supporters.
00:25:34.000 Thousand percent agree.
00:25:35.000 It also downplayed Charlie's legacy and ignore what led to his assassination.
00:25:39.000 This supposed call for unity comes across as hollow and manipulative.
00:25:42.000 I would say just really gross.
00:25:44.000 And yeah, we're not going to fall for it.
00:25:46.000 So I would say keep us posted on this, Caleb.
00:25:49.000 As soon as you hear stuff, please let us know.
00:25:51.000 Please let the field team know.
00:25:53.000 If anything goes squirrely, please let us know.
00:25:56.000 I just want to take the last two minutes in this segment real quick, Caleb.
00:26:01.000 You know, you experienced something.
00:26:03.000 I've said many times I'm so grateful I was not there that day.
00:26:07.000 Unfortunately, Blake was.
00:26:10.000 You know, and also fortunately, I'm glad Charlie had his team around him in that sense.
00:26:16.000 But you were there.
00:26:17.000 How has this changed you personally?
00:26:21.000 It's fired me up.
00:26:24.000 Like I said at the Gala, this is a realization I had that this is real things like this that happen in our country.
00:26:32.000 And it's just motivated me more to preach the right message across not only campuses, but across the world.
00:26:41.000 I'm, yeah, I'm fired up.
00:26:42.000 And I don't think this fog is going to die anytime soon.
00:26:47.000 And we're hearing that, by the way, across the country, just so everybody's aware.
00:26:47.000 That's great.
00:26:51.000 It's like the chapter meetings are exploding with people.
00:26:57.000 You mentioned that you doubled in size, your meeting size.
00:27:00.000 The meetings are swelling and growing.
00:27:02.000 So that's that, I mean.
00:27:03.000 The meetings are growing.
00:27:04.000 The Bible studies are growing.
00:27:05.000 We should definitely expand those, keep those going.
00:27:08.000 We just got an email from Kyrie who says, let the audience know if there's anything they can do to further the process of a UVU memorial.
00:27:15.000 Most straightforward way, if you are a Utah listener, tell your lawmakers this matters to you.
00:27:20.000 You care about it.
00:27:21.000 You want that to happen there and possibly on other campuses.
00:27:24.000 Yeah, and Caleb, if there's a good email, you can get that to us and we can actually tell the audience and put it up on if there's just sort of a people, a place where people can send in their thoughts and concerns or their desire for this memorial to happen, please find that for us and we'll blast it out.
00:27:41.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:27:42.000 Yeah, we want people to let their voices be heard and say we want to honor Charlie the right way here.
00:27:48.000 Don't skim around it.
00:27:48.000 None of this unity stuff.
00:27:50.000 Don't give in to the leftist voices on campus.
00:27:53.000 Caleb Chilcutt, the president of our TPUSA UVU chapter.
00:27:57.000 Caleb, you're doing a great job.
00:27:59.000 Please keep that spark alive.
00:28:01.000 You are important.
00:28:02.000 Your story is important.
00:28:03.000 You have a place in history now, as a matter of fact.
00:28:08.000 And so please guard that preciously.
00:28:11.000 Well, thank you so much.
00:28:12.000 All right, we'll see you soon.
00:28:12.000 Thank you guys.
00:28:13.000 Thank you so much.
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00:29:31.000 Meeting our turning point students and the chapter leaders is one of the best parts of this job.
00:29:37.000 I have they're great.
00:29:39.000 They're motivated.
00:29:40.000 They're impressive and positive.
00:29:43.000 Yeah.
00:29:44.000 I mean, this guy was on campus.
00:29:45.000 He was probably, I don't know where he was when everything happened, but you know, this is a truly remarkable man for having this happen on his campus, overcoming it, and you see that spark in him.
00:30:01.000 And he realizes that he's a torchbearer of Charlie's message and his legacy.
00:30:05.000 From all the way, all the way from the Antipodes in Australia, no less.
00:30:09.000 Yeah, well, it really shows the globalization of Charlie's message that we saw so much in this past year.
00:30:14.000 There was actually a Sky News reporter out of Australia that always covered Charlie.
00:30:19.000 And Charlie would always send me the links, go, she's good.
00:30:22.000 She's good.
00:30:23.000 She liked Charlie.
00:30:24.000 I mean, you know better than I Charlie's global impact because you travel with him internationally in the final months.
00:30:30.000 I'll never forget how many people were recognizing him in the UK.
00:30:33.000 The Starbucks barista, the guys in the security line, the random people in the airport lounge, just one thing after another.
00:30:41.000 It was just constant.
00:30:42.000 In the parking lot of this gas station, people were recognizing him.
00:30:45.000 And I just, I did not anticipate that.
00:30:47.000 I remember we had a German, what was her name?
00:30:50.000 The German representative.
00:30:54.000 Yeah, the AFD.
00:30:54.000 Oh, the AFD woman.
00:30:55.000 Yeah.
00:30:56.000 And she was, I remember in the breaks, she was so nervous to talk to Charlie.
00:30:59.000 She couldn't believe she was on the Charlie Kirk show because Charlie was such a big deal for the conservatives in Germany.
00:31:04.000 And the French girls at the RNC that couldn't wait to take a selfie with Charlie.
00:31:09.000 One of the most important reasons we can't let ourselves get blackpilled.
00:31:12.000 You quickly realize how much every other conservative on planet Earth looks towards American conservatism because it's where we're vital.
00:31:19.000 We're coming up with new ideas.
00:31:21.000 We're energetic.
00:31:21.000 We're aggressive.
00:31:22.000 You can do things in America.
00:31:24.000 And people love that you can do things in America.
00:31:26.000 You can just do things.
00:31:28.000 You can just do things.
00:31:30.000 There's a hot mic moment that is going around and it's making waves on social media.
00:31:35.000 Let's go ahead and play it from President Trump.
00:31:38.000 Hot Mike 185.
00:31:40.000 You know, I kidded him every time.
00:31:44.000 I can't avoid anybody.
00:31:46.000 Everybody, I'm afraid to say time has expired.
00:31:49.000 And then there is a fall.
00:31:51.000 And then we're losing patience.
00:31:53.000 So if you couldn't hear what he said, he says, you know, I can't appoint anybody.
00:31:57.000 Everybody I've appointed, their time has expired.
00:31:59.000 Then they're in default.
00:32:00.000 Then we're losing.
00:32:01.000 Blake, explain this.
00:32:03.000 Yeah, it's what we were complaining about with Charlie, actually, just going into this fall, that there's so many nominees to important positions.
00:32:11.000 There's so many appointees in general in the federal government.
00:32:14.000 I think there's several thousand people at this point who are supposed to be directly appointed by the president.
00:32:20.000 Start with the secretary, as the undersecretary, as the assistant undersecretary.
00:32:23.000 It just keeps going down.
00:32:24.000 All the ambassadors.
00:32:26.000 And I think in that specific clip, Trump was complaining about his U.S. attorney nominations.
00:32:30.000 A lot of those have been sat on.
00:32:33.000 What's behind that?
00:32:34.000 I think in a lot of those cases, I think Congress specifically dislikes some of the picks, and so they wish Trump would pick somebody else.
00:32:40.000 That's the Senate.
00:32:41.000 So, yes, all of these are Senate confirmed.
00:32:43.000 The House doesn't vote on these things.
00:32:45.000 The Senate wants somebody else, so they're pouting and sitting on them.
00:32:49.000 I think there's a lot of that going on, and it's causing problems because there's a limit to how long a person can serve temporarily.
00:32:55.000 The Trump administration has, they've tried to come up with some legal maneuvers around this, and courts have generally been striking that down.
00:33:03.000 I won't get into all of that.
00:33:04.000 But bigger picture, when this clip came out, you and I were talking, there's so many positions that have gone unfilled where they've started to accelerate them, where they started to do those block votes on nominees this fall, yet there's still hundreds of people.
00:33:20.000 And so the example you and I were talking about was Jeremy Carl, author of The Unprotected Class.
00:33:25.000 What Charlie loves Jeremy.
00:33:26.000 Charlie loved him.
00:33:27.000 He was really excited to get him into the admin.
00:33:29.000 This is one of the nominations he really personally fought for.
00:33:33.000 I believe he was nominated to be Assistant Secretary of State for International Organizations.
00:33:38.000 I think he'd probably end up working with Under Secretary Sarah Rogers, who we had on this show.
00:33:43.000 And she only took forever to get in.
00:33:44.000 She was nominated, I think, in February.
00:33:47.000 And had a hearing in April, only got confirmed in October.
00:33:51.000 There's way too much of this.
00:33:54.000 There is no excuse for us to have a Republican Senate with a Republican president with a time limit of four total years where you're guaranteed to have power, two total years where you're guaranteed to have a Senate that can confirm people and to just be sitting on nominations.
00:34:10.000 I am sorry.
00:34:11.000 Ram them through.
00:34:12.000 Absolutely.
00:34:13.000 And by the way, this blue slip thing, which is actually what that hot mic moment was about.
00:34:18.000 I mean, Charlie leveled into the U.S. Senate.
00:34:22.000 And listen, we like Chuck Grassley, but I mean, what's Chuck Grassley?
00:34:26.000 Chuck Grassley's like late 80s?
00:34:28.000 90 by now.
00:34:29.000 He could be 99.
00:34:30.000 He's a formidable figure.
00:34:31.000 He is a very, like, we respect Chuck Grassley.
00:34:34.000 Look, he's a great American.
00:34:36.000 What?
00:34:37.000 92.
00:34:37.000 92.
00:34:39.000 But we are playing in a whole different reality than what Chuck Grassley's probably his memory.
00:34:46.000 The world that formed him is long gone.
00:34:49.000 The world has changed.
00:34:51.000 The left has gotten incredibly aggressive and expansive about what they would like to do.
00:34:56.000 The bare minimum we can do is allow the person America elected to stop this to have his dudes.
00:35:03.000 Well, by the way, the admin.
00:35:04.000 JD said this.
00:35:05.000 He said, we cannot keep electing politicians that are promising policies on immigration, for example, and then saying that the judges are just going to overturn this.
00:35:15.000 You cannot do that over and over again without the people eventually becoming quite radicalized.
00:35:21.000 What the people want, the people get.
00:35:23.000 When the people elect people like President Trump and JD Vance to fix our border issues, to fix our immigration issues, or whatever, law and order.
00:35:32.000 And then constantly this is getting sidetracked because we can't get appointees through or whatever because of a blue slip, antiquated process, which is supposed to be gentlemanly and collegial within the U.S. Senate when they are weaponizing old traditions where there's no rule, there's no constitutional order, there's no mandate, there's no policies.
00:35:53.000 It's literally just a tradition.
00:35:55.000 And that is getting in the way.
00:35:56.000 Why this is so important?
00:35:58.000 And we just talked with the chapter president of UVU, and I'm thinking about Charlie right now.
00:36:03.000 Charlie left it all out on the field, literally and physically and in every conceivable way, to get President Trump elected, to get majorities in the House and in the Senate.
00:36:14.000 We have that.
00:36:16.000 We have what we worked so hard for.
00:36:19.000 And for that to get then sidetracked and postponed, delayed, or completely blocked because we run out of time is an insult to everything that we did the lead up to 2024.
00:36:31.000 And it's an insult to Charlie Kirk.
00:36:33.000 It's a little bit defeating.
00:36:34.000 If we lose next year, one of the biggest factors will be didn't confirm enough people, didn't get enough things done, didn't fulfill enough of the promises.
00:36:41.000 Absolutely unacceptable that this is still getting in the way.
00:36:44.000 Abolish the blue slip.
00:36:46.000 It's time.
00:36:47.000 We are not dealing with a good faith.
00:36:49.000 Abolish the blue slip, ram through the hearings, ram through the nominees.
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