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00:02:36.000Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard a special, very special 4th of July edition, Human Events Daily, but it's really a Turning Point USA special.
00:02:46.000We're not just powered by Turning Point USA.
00:02:49.000We are joined by the leading luminaries, I believe, of Turning Point USA.
00:03:13.000You're going fishing, but throw this on.
00:03:15.000And this is a special that we wanted to do here with the other hosts of Turning Point, not just myself, but open it up to all your favorites and get the team together for something that I wanted to call.
00:03:27.000Maybe we'll make this an annual thing, or, you know, maybe it falls on its face and we never want to speak of it again.
00:03:32.000But we wanted to call this the state of American freedom.
00:03:36.000And I said, well, I can't possibly do that by myself.
00:03:39.000So what I've got to do is bring together the whole team.
00:03:42.000So we've got Charlie Kirk, Alex Clark, and Drew Hernandez for, I believe, this might be the first time that we've all ever done anything together, like the four of us.
00:04:04.000Now, Charlie was just telling us that, you know, we were all, you know, prior to, you know, prior to starting, Charlie was telling us you were going through our favorite condiments.
00:04:11.000And, you know, for me, it's, it's the, the honey mustard and the horseradish mustard.
00:06:11.000But I think it is interesting to see if we're going to start seeing a bunch of posts on social media now today and just this whole holiday weekend of people posting pictures of them in black and saying I'm in mourning of the 4th of July.
00:06:23.000But wait, Taylor Swift has gone Antifa.
00:06:44.000None of what these people do makes sense.
00:06:45.000I think that's kind of like what we're seeing here.
00:06:47.000I mean, I think, just for the record, I think we should just erase the 4th of July and celebrate Juneteenth because I think that is what needs to be done right now, because that is where it's at right now.
00:07:00.000If you guys aren't, you're not relevant.
00:07:02.000Well, no, listen, Jack, you're not relevant if you are not celebrating Juneteenth every single year and saying the 4th of July is racist and should be undone.
00:07:09.000Because Juneteenth is really, really the real freedom here in this country.
00:07:15.000Like, by the way, please, please, Hollywood celebrities, come out against the 4th of July, attack the United States of America and grills and, you know, what do they call it?
00:07:29.000Yeah, it's like, I just want to grill the grill bros.
00:07:32.000You know, it's like, it's like you're sort of, you know, your dad with the, you know, he's got the jean shorts, he's got the white sneakers, the high tops, he's got the socks that come up to his knees.
00:07:57.000So, please, please, Hollywood celebrities, come out against all of that because it's like gorilla, it's like gorilla mindset, but gorilla mindset.
00:08:48.000So, Tanya and I used to do like you know, we used to joke around.
00:08:52.000We call it like the Jack and Tanya show, like we would just do like little live streams together, like we'd be in the kitchen or like you know, be like on a date or something, and we'd just pop the thing on, or we just, you know, whatever news of the day or just chatting.
00:09:05.000And um, but she's, you know, she's kind of become like sort of a influencer type thing in her own right.
00:09:12.000And uh, you know, I think that what she just did with you on this last spillover, um, that was the first like long-form interview, like actual interview, right?
00:09:23.000That wasn't just like some casual thing that she and I were doing, uh, where like she talked about herself.
00:09:28.000She said stuff in your spillover that I didn't even know about.
00:09:38.000What's interesting is, I mean, I've talked to everyone gets citizenship.
00:09:42.000I had a girl on, I had a girl on that her arms were melted off.
00:09:45.000I've talked to burn survivors, I've talked to uh serial killer survivors, all the stuff.
00:09:50.000None of these guests have ever made me cry.
00:09:52.000But Tanya Posobic describing how America has changed from the early 2000s to now made me start crying in just the short amount of time in the last 20 years, how drastically different America is.
00:10:25.000Because, you know, and it's something that Tanya, like as an outsider to the country, you know, she tells me these things.
00:10:32.000She's like, I never thought that I would see like what you just said, Alex, about the 4th of July.
00:10:38.000And she's like, one of the things that she always said to me was, you know, in Europe, right, people don't carry flags the way that or show or put up flags the way they do.
00:10:50.000They don't have like just regular houses with national flags on them.
00:11:03.000I've never been in a place where this, you know, because like she's born in the Soviet Union.
00:11:07.000So, you know, the flag would be up at like, you know, an official ministry or like the police station or the city hall or municipal, whatever.
00:11:16.000It wasn't something that you would, you would personally hold at your own home.
00:11:21.000And so like we've totally lost a sense of that in the country, but then also a sense of just what that even means, right?
00:11:31.000It got to the point where, you know, and I think, and Charlie, I'm sure you know about this that, you know, people say that if you see an American flag at somebody's house, that means now that they're actually more likely to be conservative, which you go back just a couple of years, that wasn't the case.
00:11:47.000And unfortunately, it's been politicized.
00:12:00.00060 to 70% would put the flag up for July 4th, for sure.
00:12:05.000And I'll never forget, like maybe 2009, 2010, 2011, you started kind of starting to see some of this anti-American energy.
00:12:15.000But, you know, as this is kind of the 4th of July episode, Independence Day episode, you know, growing up, that, I was really thinking about this.
00:12:22.000That's the top three to five day in a childhood calendar throughout the year.
00:13:03.000And I'm afraid we've lost that in more ways than one.
00:13:10.000Look, we talk about current events a lot on this show, but there's other things that are in life that are bigger than current events, bigger things.
00:13:15.000We try to do some shows every so often on these things.
00:13:18.000But look, what am I talking about when I say that?
00:13:22.000Right and wrong, prayer and the Bible or heaven and hell.
00:13:25.000So look, the great C.S. Lewis, who's one of the most amazing minds ever to exist, was a master at addressing these questions.
00:13:34.000And that is why Hillsdale College, the great college, the only college, in my opinion, wants you to learn more about him and his writings in their newest free online course, C.S. Lewis on Christianity.
00:13:46.000Then it all starts with taking a short quiz to find out how much you already know about Lewis.
00:13:51.000He wrote more than the Narnia series, by the way.
00:15:06.000All three of us live in Phoenix and the only fireworks, and I'm saying that in quote, shows happening today are like pyrotechnic fire shows on water.
00:15:48.000That is how bad this has really gotten.
00:15:50.000I mean, it's just like Charlie's saying, I mean, the spirit of Independence Day in the 4th of July.
00:15:54.000I mean, when I think about being a kid growing up, I wasn't being told by my parents that America is racist and the 4th of July should just be a day I wear all black and just like look in the mirror and just, you know, acknowledge how oppressed I am.
00:16:07.000It was always a holiday to celebrate American greatness, our freedom and the heritage of this country.
00:16:14.000And I mean, I mean, post-2020 with the BLM communists that have just totally subverted this country, it's gone into hyperdrive.
00:16:21.000Even in 2021, with the whole vax mandates, freedom has been violated on a huge scale.
00:16:27.000And you fast forward to 2022 right now.
00:16:30.000The push of the red flag laws, a further violation of our freedom, Second Amendment, the Ministry of Truth that was being pushed that obviously got taken down by Jack Pesovic and others themselves.
00:16:40.000But I mean, but here we are now as well, where this freedom is continuing to be violated.
00:16:46.000You're seeing this spirit over and over and over and over again, where these people are pushing harder and harder and harder.
00:16:52.000And I mean, if we're talking about the state of freedom in our country, there are some great things to talk about, but also these people are advancing on the other side.
00:17:40.000It's like the black guy that has Ronald South, like he kind of has some grievances.
00:17:45.000I just want to reinforce the point, though, that there are millions of kids that will never experience the July 4th that we had growing up.
00:17:54.000And it was special from the parades in the morning to the food to the barbecue to the black parties to the fireworks to staying up super late.
00:19:14.000And so, and then he never would have had to steal the presidential limo and fight off the entire, I think it was actually the entire entire brigade of Secret Service agents the last time I checked with my kids.
00:20:15.000Because my kids, for them, that'll be money in the bank that, you know, whatever happens, whatever kind of life they have when they grow up, you know, they'll always go to go back and be like, you know what?
00:20:26.000My dad used to take me to this stuff when I was little and it was, and it was awesome.
00:22:01.000It's this massive redemption arc coke.
00:22:06.000This totally made, because we used to all just, you know, I mean, boy, I had to delete so many text threads about Alex, but, you know, and it's like, it's, no, I realize it now.
00:22:17.000So you're, you know, you're, you know, you, you know, you've got to do.
00:22:46.000My mom gave me puberty blockers with my cereal, and I was told that I was going to be happier.
00:22:52.000We're going to see, guys, I don't know what it's like in Arizona, but in DC right now, I mean, you want to talk state of American freedom, right?
00:22:59.000It's, I see these kids, every pharmacy, right?
00:23:04.000And it's a line of kids, and the families all have masks on, and they're all, they're all lined up for the vaccine.
00:23:12.000And I'm sitting over here, I'm like, you're wearing masks.
00:23:15.000Number one, you're getting the vaccine for your kids.
00:23:52.000Charlie Was on and some girl went up to him and remember this Charlie, she asked you for advice and said, um, my kids or my parents put me on puberty blockers.
00:24:02.000Now i'm wondering if this was all a mistake or whatever, because i'm not happier.
00:24:13.000It was like, uh, I don't know if you'd say conspiracy theory, but like, like a rumor about like, like the Olson twins, right and full house and this whole like oh, they're trying to keep.
00:25:02.000That like they were giving them so much that damn, it's that.
00:25:06.000Damn, Joey Gladstone Jack is like, it was like a controversy right, and it was like this whole.
00:25:12.000You know oh, they're doing it to keep them young so they can get more uh, seasons of the show, because the show was doing so well and you know.
00:25:20.000And then like and and but at the time right, it was considered like like child abuse to give someone puberty blockers.
00:25:29.000It wasn't, it was like against their will and you know, maybe that, and like the parents didn't even know about it and trying to remember right, and um, you know obviously, you know they, they go and grow up, but even even now like, can I say this?
00:25:42.000Like like they're they're, they're not gotta say it right is like when you so Elizabeth Olson right, that's their younger sister right, but like all right, i'm just gonna say it.
00:25:56.000Like she, how do you even get on this?
00:25:58.000Right, she just looks so much healthier.
00:26:00.000Yeah, she doesn't look like a man, aren't the Olson sisters like fentanyl girls or something?
00:26:22.000I I looked at the dark place and then I walked away.
00:26:26.000No, there's some super weird stuff going on with them and yeah, so the parallel you're making jack, is that basically, like all of this weird stuff that started happening, I mean, who's to say how the next generation of kids is going to end up?
00:26:39.000I mean, i've been watching geez, they do look terrible.
00:26:42.000I've been re-looking at that school Scientology, the Laya Remedy, on Netflix.
00:26:46.000I've been re-watching them and, like you, just watch people coming out of cults and their reactions.
00:26:52.000They're broken, they're crying like they want their lives back.
00:26:56.000Some of them are extremely, Extremely angry.
00:26:57.000And I've just kind of like been watching that.
00:27:00.000And I've been wondering, I mean, 10, 20 years down the line, I mean, I think we are really, when I say these people are like a deaf cult, I mean, I'll just say that just to be, you know, provocative.
00:27:09.000Like these are, this is literally a cult.
00:27:11.000I think 20 years from now, we'll probably see the same thing.
00:27:14.000I think we'll see a very angry, pissed off, broken, hurt generation that wants revenge because they've been lied to from their parents, the media, Hollywood, the music industry.
00:27:26.000This has just been shoved down their mouths without even giving them a chance to understand what it is.
00:27:32.000And I think that is really what's going to cause a backlash.
00:27:37.000I could be totally wrong about this, but that's kind of what I foresee coming from this generation once they wake up to the fact they've been, they've been groomed, they've been lied to, they've been manipulated.
00:27:46.000Well, and that's the thing, like tale is old as time.
00:27:49.000Every single generation of teenagers hates being told what to do.
00:27:54.000And so what we have to do now is really explaining to Gen Z, who can then explain to the next generation, is that the government wants to be like your parent and always telling you what's good for you, what's not good for you.
00:28:37.000You rarely see this kind of focus and commitment.
00:28:39.000They recently shared with me that they are doubling down and want to literally double their total number of happy customers in the next year.
00:28:47.000If you're struggling with back pain, neck pain, shoulder, hip, or knee pain, even general muscle aches and pain, then I'm suggesting you order their three-week quick start, still discounted, only $19.95.
00:29:18.000I think you're seeing like you're starting because people are, you know what it is right now?
00:29:22.000It's like we have everything, but we have nothing, right?
00:29:24.000Because we have, you have, you have, you have Google and Wikipedia and everything.
00:29:29.000And you can, you can order something off of your, your, a piece of glass in your pocket, right?
00:29:33.000You know, and some of that's starting to break apart, but it's like, like we have no way to filter any of it because we've lost any sense of meaning.
00:29:40.000And so you actually start to look out there.
00:29:43.000And, you know, this, this is why Jordan Peterson took off is because he said, look, you know, there is meaning.
00:29:49.000And he reached out to a group of people that said that.
00:29:54.000And it's like our sort of civil society, right?
00:30:00.000You know, we kind of got away from that for so long when we started tearing down all of what it meant.
00:30:06.000You know, they said, you know, America's bad.
00:30:08.000How can you Billy Joe, you know, green day guy is like, I hate America and it became cool to say like you hate your country versus like coming to a point where it says, you know, we're saying, no, we do support our country.
00:30:23.000You know, but, you know, even weirdly enough, like you go back into the 1960s and 70s and there were still people who were patriotic, but they were just saying, we just want our country to be better.
00:30:35.000You didn't see people just tearing down the whole thing.
00:30:37.000And so if you don't have anything that to hold on to, and whether that be, you know, religion or just some kind of moral structure and a basis for saying, well, yeah, you know what?
00:30:47.000America is good and America is a force for good in the world.
00:30:51.000That doesn't mean that everything, you know, this war is good or that war, the global system and NATO and all.
00:31:05.000You know, growing up, you know, for us, you know, being in the Philadelphia area, right, is where I grew up.
00:31:13.000And because July 4th, 1776 is literally like Philadelphia's claim to fame, even today.
00:31:22.000You know, as opposed to like where, you know, today, where it's just like, you know, mass homicides and people shooting and killing each other all the time.
00:31:29.000You know, but growing up, it was like, you know, the whole city and the whole area was just so proud that we were the birthplace of this country where people for the first time, you know, ever basically said, you know, it's not just about, it's not just about people and government and kings and monarchies and everything else.
00:31:49.000It's that we're actually going to have freedom, that people have individuals have freedom, right?
00:33:44.000I mean, these people, I mean, if you take it back down to American politics and the far left, America is racist, xenophobic.
00:33:51.000It's bad for black people and brown people or any person of color, and it's only good for white people.
00:33:55.000That's always the mainstream national narrative.
00:33:58.000Meanwhile, you have millions of people to this day that are illegally and legally still literally putting their lives on the line, their families on the line, just to get here.
00:34:08.000Black people, brown people alike, all people across the globe are coming to this country because they still see it as a beacon of light and hope and freedom and better wherever they're coming from.
00:34:18.000That fact still lives to this day, to this day.
00:34:22.000Here we are, July 4th, 2022, to this day.
00:34:26.000That is still a reality because of what America resembles.
00:34:30.000The American dream, people can have prosperity.
00:34:32.000They can have everything that they never could have had in their country where they're coming from.
00:34:37.000And that reality has not changed, no matter how much the communists in this country try and distort that reality.
00:34:50.000I'm just saying it's happening that it's that people are coming to this country because they view it as a great place to be better than where they're coming from.
00:35:27.000I didn't really do this on purpose, but I just, every once in a while, I'll be somewhere or like, you know, when you cross states and you see the fireworks place, I'll just stop and buy some fireworks.
00:35:50.000He, you know, these are, you know, he has the ability to form memories now.
00:35:54.000So for him, it's, it, you know, obviously it's not his first Fourth of July, but it's, it's starting to be like, I know it'll be like the first one that he has a really strong memory of, you know, and he's, and he's very aware of what's going on.
00:36:06.000And so, you know, I want the American flag everywhere.
00:36:09.000Actually, we go and we'll go for, uh, we'll go for bike rides together.
00:36:13.000Just, you know, well, I throw the, you know, I'll throw him on the with like a back seat for him.
00:36:17.000And then I'm, it's like, you know, it's kind of like my little bit of leg day for me, you know, because he's like 50 pounds now.
00:36:22.000And we'll do a couple of miles on the bike, but we'll count, you know, how I always say, how many American flags do you see, right?
00:36:43.000Um, you just make it part of just a normal part of life.
00:36:48.000And at some point, right, you know, he'll get older and he'll meet other people and he'll say, oh, wait, your family wasn't like that because my family was.
00:39:05.000And I guess they like took down a wall in this mall and they found a Burger King that had been entirely preserved from like the early 90s and it would have completely untouched.
00:39:20.000And there's like, and it was like clean too.
00:39:23.000There were like neon, you know, designs and like the old like weird, like off like bluish white aquamarine, you know, seats and everything.
00:40:07.000And it's actually a conservative argument at its core, though, when you think about it, because it means that all the progress we've had hasn't made you happier and freer and better.
00:40:16.000And so there is kind of a yearning to the restoration of the country that used to exist, which inherently is a conservative argument that we accelerated too quickly and we embrace things that we shouldn't have.
00:40:26.000So I think the country is far more conservative in that sense, as far as passage of time, nostalgia, traditions.
00:41:14.000And I think Charlie's right because like when you think about it, the American flag, some people are probably afraid to fly it because it's been so politicized and it's been demonized to the point where in the minds of these communists, they've pretty much made in their minds that the American flag is synonymous with a Trump hat.
00:41:33.000So there are probably people right now, this comes with a sense of sorrow where it's like, there might be non-political, apolitical people out there that love America, that have nothing to do with politics.
00:41:43.000They love celebrating the 4th of July.
00:41:45.000But now because the flag has been so demonized that it's like comes with a sense of sorrow where it's like, I can't even celebrate the 4th of July anymore without being called a freaking racist, even if I'm black.
00:41:58.000The demonization of the American flag and conservatives in general, I mean, we saw that just explode during the Trump era, but do you think that that is, it was just exclusive to Trump or going forward, it's always going to be like that towards conservative presidents and conservatives in the American flag?
00:42:35.000And it's, you know, he's telling a story about sitting down in an old, you know, country square and there's an old ragged, messed up flag sitting up and it's all threadbare and nasty.
00:42:46.000And some guy sits next to him who's coming from out of town and he goes, he's like, you know, and it's just kind of as we're getting towards the wrap-up point here that the guy sits down next to him and says, hey, your flag's all ragged up.
00:43:03.000And Johnny Cashka then proceeds to tell him and he's like, well, you got one flag there when got tore up crossing the Delaware, got another flag down when it was fighting in the South, got another flag fighting in World War II, the Bertha guns, and another flag.
00:43:18.000And he just kind of goes through the history of the United States.
00:43:46.000And I don't think America is just an, you know, there was that, there was that thing about America just being, oh, it's just an idea, right?
00:43:53.000You know, it's just, America is just like an idea and we can change the idea.
00:44:05.000You know, and we do have a right to say that we want our home to be better.
00:44:09.000And if there's going to be, I keep saying this like a broken record, but if there's going to be a new right, you know, the thing that's got to be at the center of that is families and then just saying, look, we want to clean up our home.
00:44:21.000We want to go around and we want to make things better and we can notice them and we can say, you know, crime is crazy.
00:44:30.000You guys are attacking our home, right?
00:45:28.000And you just, you shut up, you put your phone down, whatever it is, and you, you honor the fact that this is our home and that means something.
00:46:35.000Do not be afraid of these communists that want to take it down and shame you and put you into a state of fear where you and your family cannot openly celebrate the greatest country on the face of planet Earth, which is the United States of America.
00:46:48.000Right now, of course, we have some sins, which one is, you know, the murdering and slaughtering of babies, which the far left wants to continue to push for, but they don't want to talk about that.
00:46:56.000But I hope everyone listening has a great 4th of July.
00:51:20.000And I hope to do it again because I intend to still have a country with, as long as I am alive, the United States, and as long as all of us are alive, the United States will exist.
00:51:31.000Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission, have our permission to lay ashore.