The Charlie Kirk Show - How Barack Obama Ruined The Democrats ft. PBD

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00:01:59.000 In fact, I was just responding to some of the next in the break.

00:02:01.000 PBD, great to see you.

00:02:03.000 Great to see you.

00:02:04.000 So thank you for taking the time.

00:02:06.000 And PBD, you're coming out this weekend to our event.

00:02:08.000 I know you're very busy, and it means a lot that you're taking the time to come west.

00:02:12.000 Talk about what you learned at the event last year and what you're planning to share with our audience.

00:02:18.000 Well, let me tell you, I loved the event so much last year that I'm trying to find a way to bring my 12-year-old We're good to go.

00:02:47.000 Then from there, first thing in the morning, I have to get on the jet, fly over to you, hoping I can get my son to come with me.

00:02:53.000 Then right after that, when I'm done, I'm going to get on the jet to get back to spend the Christmas time with the family.

00:02:58.000 But I do this because I have so much respect for what you're building.

00:03:03.000 I'm so...

00:03:04.000 I'm optimistic about the future that there is a place being built where fathers can send family, they can send their kids somewhere to say, go learn some of these values and guess what?

00:03:16.000 You're going to meet potentially a girlfriend, a boyfriend, a friend, somebody to do business with.

00:03:21.000 I'm so glad something like this exists with a guy like you that, you know, the stuff you did the last 12 months, I put you as a top five MVP. For 2024 election, I said that to you on the podcast and I'm saying it here.

00:03:32.000 So yes, I mean, listen, if you've never been, do whatever you can to go to it.

00:03:37.000 It's a life-changing event.

00:03:39.000 It's AmFest.com.

00:03:40.000 Thank you for saying that.

00:03:41.000 And let's just pick up kind of something you said there, and it's highlighted in the shirt right behind you.

00:03:45.000 One of the reasons I love watching your program and reading your books is that you are such an optimist.

00:03:52.000 And that you've lived the American dream.

00:03:54.000 And the future looks bright.

00:03:55.000 I've got to be honest, a lot of people in our audience did not feel that kind of hope, that optimism earlier this year.

00:04:02.000 And the election obviously feels as if it's this national sigh of relief.

00:04:06.000 The future does look bright.

00:04:08.000 Talk about that.

00:04:09.000 And also speak about, do you believe we're heading into a new golden era in America?

00:04:14.000 I think this is...

00:04:16.000 Listen, every once in a while, you're going to have an opportunity ahead of you That doesn't happen all the time.

00:04:21.000 There was a roaring 20s that a lot of people took advantage of.

00:04:25.000 There are certain times this happens with Oklahoma land rush.

00:04:29.000 It happens in real estate.

00:04:30.000 It happens in investments.

00:04:31.000 It happens with technology.

00:04:33.000 It happens.

00:04:34.000 There's eras that come.

00:04:35.000 And these eras are typically followed during a season of hard times.

00:04:40.000 We've all read The Fourth Turning.

00:04:42.000 We know these different seasons that come about that happens.

00:04:44.000 But here's the thing.

00:04:46.000 There's something very different about President Trump right now.

00:04:50.000 Very.

00:04:51.000 When you watch him in these interviews that he does, he is very poised the way he's answering, calculating, but very calm, respectful, not offended.

00:05:06.000 Nothing gets under his skin, but he's very quick to hold the person accountable.

00:05:11.000 And it's just a very different style of what he's doing.

00:05:14.000 Very, very different style of what he's doing.

00:05:17.000 Where everybody has to find a way that to get through the system, you have to be America first.

00:05:23.000 I don't care who you are.

00:05:24.000 If your name is Justin Trudeau, you're visiting Mar-a-Lago, you better be America first or else next week you're going to be resigning and being afraid that maybe a guy named Pierre is going to take over your job.

00:05:35.000 And so he's calling you governor and saying, hey, Governor Trudeau, it was great to have you here.

00:05:40.000 Why don't you become the 51st state and, you know, join us.

00:05:42.000 If you're anybody, when he said 100 people called them.

00:05:45.000 So let's kind of process this together from financial values and principles.

00:05:50.000 We can do both.

00:05:51.000 Okay.

00:05:51.000 So where's my confidence comes from values and principles.

00:05:55.000 When you're around a lot of bullies, here's the profile of bullies.

00:05:59.000 Bullies will typically bully lower level people.

00:06:03.000 And they'll gradually try to climb up to bully Tier 2 people.

00:06:08.000 And then when they graduate Tier 2, they'll do Tier 3. I'm like, wow, we were able to convince these guys that fully aligned.

00:06:16.000 All right, let's go and go bully Tier 4s and Tier 5s. 0.92

00:06:20.000 And then eventually, when you start getting a little bit higher, the guys that specialize in bullying bullies, they sit there and all of a sudden they say, listen, man, you just crossed the line.

00:06:30.000 You woke my up.

00:06:32.000 You wake the wrong people up.

00:06:34.000 And then when those guys...

00:06:36.000 You wake up, here's what you do.

00:06:39.000 Those guys are all living their own lives.

00:06:41.000 They don't need anybody.

00:06:42.000 They're making their own money.

00:06:43.000 They're in their own industries.

00:06:45.000 They have their own cliques.

00:06:46.000 They have their own gangs.

00:06:48.000 You bullies.

00:06:49.000 What you did...

00:06:51.000 The last eight years, you all of a sudden created the possible greatest gang ever put together.

00:06:59.000 You did this.

00:07:01.000 You got a liberal Elon Musk to align with Trump.

00:07:04.000 And just a few years ago, they were talking smack about each other.

00:07:07.000 You unified them.

00:07:08.000 You got Joe Rogan who said he'll never have President Trump on his podcast, now sounding like he's 100% Trump on his podcast when you listen to it.

00:07:17.000 You did that, the bullies.

00:07:19.000 You got Tulsi Gabbard who ran as a liberal, then all of a sudden just because Hillary Clinton didn't like her, she talks trans, you forced her out.

00:07:27.000 You got one of the greatest last names of all time called Kennedy and you started calling him cuckoo and all these other things.

00:07:33.000 You forced him to come up at an AmFest event, your event on stage, which was one of the most electrifying moments of 2024, captured by Turning Point USA. You did that.

00:07:43.000 The bullies did that. 0.96

00:07:44.000 And now you got all the brains, all the guys with guts and gals who are like true believers in America.

00:07:52.000 Bullies did that.

00:07:53.000 So for me, my confidence comes from the business model of bullies has a timeline.

00:07:58.000 Eventually, the right people wake up.

00:08:00.000 Now, financially, on the other side, I think if you think about what the enemy is going to be doing, you got to sit there and think about what the enemy and Obama's and the establishment and the guys behind closed doors, the guys that the faceless leaders that we don't know about, those guys are going to have to find a way to pin J.D. Vance.

00:08:19.000 Against Eric and Laura, because they're another power couple that could maybe one day run. 1.00

00:08:23.000 Against Vivek, against Elon, against Trump, against the family.

00:08:29.000 They're playing behind closed doors, trying to find ways to be ways of getting under Trump's skin.

00:08:36.000 Hey, you know, Elon Musk bought the presidency.

00:08:39.000 He's the puppet master.

00:08:40.000 They're going to try to play these games.

00:08:41.000 And if that doesn't work...

00:08:43.000 I think you could see 12 years of presidency of Trump and J.D. Vance or others being here.

00:08:49.000 And that 12 years could be a historic 12-year run that will go on.

00:08:52.000 PBD, about a minute and a half here.

00:08:54.000 I want to follow up on that.

00:08:55.000 The state of the Democrat Party, if you were to look at this just through business terms, is this a Democrat Party that is looking like they're going to revamp, to redo their marketing and their approach?

00:09:11.000 Or do you think as if they're going to double and triple down on their belief system?

00:09:16.000 You predict your book is the next five moves.

00:09:19.000 What do you think is the Democrat Party's next move?

00:09:21.000 Sure.

00:09:21.000 Listen, you hope they double down.

00:09:24.000 Please double down.

00:09:25.000 Go ahead.

00:09:26.000 Do it.

00:09:26.000 Go ahead and double down and not learn from your mistakes.

00:09:29.000 That's kind of like you got a seven-game series you're playing against another team in the World Series or basketball, and you see what plays they keep playing.

00:09:36.000 You double down game two.

00:09:38.000 You double down game three.

00:09:39.000 You double down game four.

00:09:40.000 You get swept.

00:09:40.000 It's double dumb to do that.

00:09:42.000 I don't think they're going to do that.

00:09:43.000 But I think the one person that screwed the whole thing up for Democrats is the great Barack Obama.

00:09:49.000 He's the one that destroyed the whole thing.

00:09:50.000 Obama is to blame?

00:09:52.000 Explain.

00:09:53.000 So if you think about what happened the last 18 months with the conservative movement, just kind of go through...

00:09:58.000 18 months ago puts us June of 2023. June of 2023 is two months after DeSantis comes out with his book.

00:10:08.000 And the conservatives were second-guessing Trump.

00:10:11.000 You had kind of seen different factions.

00:10:14.000 They're like, hey, you know, Trump is done.

00:10:15.000 We got to move on and we got to go with DeSantis.

00:10:17.000 No, we got to go with this.

00:10:19.000 And now, you know, the establishment.

00:10:22.000 No, no, no, Nikki Haley.

00:10:23.000 If you guys really get Nikki Haley, I'm all in.

00:10:25.000 I know we got to go with this person.

00:10:27.000 And what does Trump do?

00:10:28.000 He's like, I'm sorry, what are we doing?

00:10:30.000 I'm the guy.

00:10:31.000 But the thing that the establishment left and the establishment right and mainstream media did is they went after the head of the party.

00:10:43.000 The Republican Party, which was Trump.

00:10:45.000 The right move, by the way, because if they take him out, everybody else collapses.

00:10:51.000 There's a massive division in the Republican Party because now they can use the terms to say, hey, look at the Republicans.

00:10:59.000 They're broken up.

00:11:00.000 They're all over the place.

00:11:02.000 You have the Romney team.

00:11:03.000 You have the Haley team.

00:11:04.000 You have these guys, and you have those guys, and you have the Vivek, and you have the Mecca, and you have this...

00:11:08.000 They are scrambling trying to figure this thing out.

00:11:11.000 They try to do it.

00:11:12.000 What does Trump do?

00:11:13.000 He stands tall.

00:11:14.000 And slowly but surely, he wins everybody over on the right.

00:11:20.000 Very, very important.

00:11:21.000 Not easy to do.

00:11:23.000 It was very, very hard.

00:11:24.000 Because the DeSantis movement was very strong at the early stages of it.

00:11:28.000 And we had him on the podcast and we had great conversations with him there.

00:11:32.000 Now flip it on the other side.

00:11:33.000 Peter Thiel is on the Barry Weiss podcast.

00:11:37.000 They're having a conversation.

00:11:38.000 I love what Peter Thiel said in this podcast.

00:11:40.000 He says, you guys don't realize how important 2024 was because he says, I remember when Musk said, I believe 2024 will be the most monumental election of our lifetime.

00:11:51.000 And he says, Peter's like, look, when I hear stuff like that, I'm kind of like, give me a flip and break.

00:11:55.000 He says, so I called Elon.

00:11:56.000 He's telling the story.

00:11:58.000 And he says, I told Elon, you can't tell me it's the most monumental election.

00:12:01.000 How can you say that?

00:12:02.000 He says, let me tell you.

00:12:03.000 Here's why it is.

00:12:04.000 And then he says, the more time went by, he says, the more I realized this was monumental and here's why.

00:12:09.000 Listen to what he said.

00:12:11.000 He says, imagine if Kamala won.

00:12:11.000 Powerful.

00:12:16.000 You know what Democrats would be able to say today?

00:12:18.000 He says if Kamala won, they would be able to say Trump just got lucky.

00:12:24.000 That was a fluke.

00:12:26.000 MAGA is not real.

00:12:28.000 There is no people out there that want these types of policies.

00:12:31.000 That was a guy that just got lucky one time.

00:12:34.000 It'll never happen again.

00:12:35.000 And they wanted to destroy this entire movement.

00:12:39.000 And by the way, within the movement...

00:12:41.000 You would have Turning Point USA. They would have tried to destroy and divide everybody.

00:12:45.000 You got the MAGA community.

00:12:47.000 But what happens?

00:12:49.000 Trump wins.

00:12:50.000 So Trump winning, what was a fluke?

00:12:53.000 Oh, the 2020 election was a fluke.

00:12:56.000 So that was a fluke.

00:12:58.000 And by the way, who chose Biden over Hillary to be the person for 2020?

00:13:04.000 This guy named Barack Obama.

00:13:05.000 And Barack Obama to the left is the black Jesus. 0.97

00:13:08.000 That's their God.

00:13:10.000 That's their MJ. That's the guy that walks on water in their eyes, right?

00:13:15.000 And then you see him on stage and his voice no longer has credibility?

00:13:19.000 What?

00:13:20.000 What?

00:13:21.000 You see him on stage, he doesn't sound like himself anymore.

00:13:23.000 Are you kidding?

00:13:24.000 This is the 2004 DNC, one of the greatest speeches ever given in political history.

00:13:29.000 That guy lost it.

00:13:31.000 He was able to go and sit down with Leno, Letterman, Kemmel, Fallon, anybody, and oh my God, look how amazing he is.

00:13:36.000 You know, the energy that he has.

00:13:39.000 That guy had the biggest loss of his career.

00:13:43.000 The biggest public humiliating loss of his career.

00:13:46.000 What do Democrats do now?

00:13:48.000 They're allowing AOC to be now a story of this guy, you know, hey, she may run for office in 2028. Election Day 2024 is in our rearview mirror and conservatives are fired up that President Trump heading back to the White House in January.

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00:14:59.000 So, then you have Obama now sitting there allowing AOC to come in.

00:15:05.000 So, let's just kind of play with the games.

00:15:07.000 Like, they need their own Elon Musk.

00:15:09.000 We need our own Elon Musk.

00:15:10.000 No, you had your own Elon Musk.

00:15:11.000 No, we need our own Rogan.

00:15:13.000 Who's going to be the Rogan?

00:15:14.000 You see some guys right now seeing this as an opportunity that they're going after Rogan.

00:15:20.000 And there are guys that were on Rogan four or five times, I won't say their names, four or five times, that now they're turning against Rogan and trashing Rogan.

00:15:28.000 But the same people that were trashing Rogan were the same people that supported Bernie Sanders, but now Bernie Sanders supports Elon Musk.

00:15:35.000 So what the hell?

00:15:36.000 Who is your God now?

00:15:37.000 They don't have anybody right now.

00:15:40.000 Look, this is not a small loss, Charlie.

00:15:43.000 This is if the conservatives, if Trump and the folks that are working closely together, if they can stay united and fight privately, disagree privately, if they can do that, this is a 12-year run.

00:15:58.000 They don't have a solution right now.

00:16:00.000 Their ideas suck.

00:16:02.000 Family ideas they had suck.

00:16:04.000 Hey, you can go get puberty blockers to kids.

00:16:07.000 And, you know, are you kidding?

00:16:09.000 Like, common sense is sinking in.

00:16:10.000 And bad policies got exposed in 2024 in waves we've never seen before.

00:16:15.000 And by the way, that's what happens when you try to bully people.

00:16:17.000 They're eventually going to be like, I'm out.

00:16:19.000 I'm not with you anymore.

00:16:20.000 A big part of that is delivering on the agenda.

00:16:23.000 Part of it goes into something I want to dive deep in with you that we haven't had a chance to discuss, which is DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency.

00:16:32.000 You're one of the best business minds out there.

00:16:34.000 For those that do not know, PBD started and sold a very successful company.

00:16:39.000 He's lived the American dream.

00:16:41.000 He's also part owner of the Yankees.

00:16:43.000 I'm not saying anything that's not public.

00:16:44.000 So he understands business very, very well.

00:16:47.000 It seems like Doge, if it is executed upon, can accelerate that 12-year trajectory.

00:16:54.000 That can be one of the greatest.

00:16:55.000 Look what changed.

00:16:57.000 Look what we did.

00:16:58.000 And it is bipartisan.

00:16:59.000 It is with great agreement.

00:17:02.000 People want the government to be scaled down and more efficient.

00:17:05.000 How should we think about Doge?

00:17:06.000 Patrick, about David.

00:17:07.000 Oh my God.

00:17:08.000 Listen, that is so exciting.

00:17:10.000 You know, so when Doge is taking place, we've been talking about the concept of tariffs for a few years and you saw Mark Cuban coming out and say, well, you know, here's what you got to be careful with tariffs and, you know, protectionists and that's not the right way to go and we need free trade.

00:17:23.000 And this is why this, and by the way, this conversation goes back to some people that are very big pro-Nixon.

00:17:29.000 Nixon was one of the greatest presidents of all time and he did all this stuff.

00:17:32.000 I mean, The argument could be a 50-50 argument.

00:17:35.000 There's days that I sit there and I think Nixon did great.

00:17:37.000 And there's days I sit there and I debate my own self saying, wait a minute, he strengthened China.

00:17:43.000 We got off of gold standard.

00:17:44.000 We got into a bunch of debt because it was kind of like the U.S. dollar.

00:17:47.000 So you can say the good, bad, and the ugly.

00:17:49.000 And I'm sure I'm going to get a call from Roger Stone.

00:17:51.000 Hey, you know, don't you ever talk about my Nixon like that.

00:17:55.000 But here's where I'm going with this part about this story with Doge.

00:17:59.000 So I sit there and we have our research team pull up the history of tariffs.

00:18:04.000 Just about 140 years ago is where the U.S. revenue, 100% of the U.S. revenue that came in, the government got it from tariffs.

00:18:16.000 That's what it was.

00:18:17.000 We paid for everything through tariffs, right?

00:18:20.000 We did that for many years.

00:18:22.000 And then what happened?

00:18:23.000 All of a sudden, under a few, you know, whether you want to call Wilson or Truman, I mean, we'll go to Wilson, some of the presidents all of a sudden, like, hey, 1913. Let's introduce taxes.

00:18:33.000 Let's introduce Federal Reserve.

00:18:35.000 Let's introduce this.

00:18:36.000 Next year it's war. 0.97

00:18:37.000 Hey, let's allow the American people to agree to take their taxes out of their payrolls. 1.00

00:18:42.000 People will never agree to that.

00:18:44.000 Americans are not dumb enough. 1.00

00:18:46.000 No, I think we can.

00:18:48.000 Who was the one that thought that was a good idea?

00:18:50.000 You ready for this one?

00:18:51.000 A guy that's in my painting of my house.

00:18:53.000 Milton Friedman later on says, one of the biggest mistakes I made supporting an idea that was a horrible idea.

00:18:59.000 Taking taxes out of my payroll.

00:19:00.000 Why would I agree for the government to do that?

00:19:02.000 You would get all the money.

00:19:03.000 End of the year, you would pay your taxes.

00:19:05.000 Now you're letting the government get 11 months advance on your money that you could have made that interest investing it somewhere.

00:19:10.000 Yes.

00:19:11.000 Whoa, how the hell do we agree to this?

00:19:12.000 Watch this.

00:19:13.000 Everyone talks about tariff, tariff, tariff.

00:19:16.000 Do you know...

00:19:18.000 Roughly, the amount of business that we do, that we tax on tariffs, is around $3.7 trillion.

00:19:25.000 Let's say $4 trillion.

00:19:27.000 Do you know what the average revenue...

00:19:29.000 Do you know how much U.S. government...

00:19:31.000 I'm asking the listeners and the viewers, if I was to ask you right now, how much income did the U.S. revenue come in last year just from tariffs?

00:19:41.000 You know what that number is on the $4 trillion?

00:19:43.000 Only $80 billion.

00:19:45.000 Mm-hmm.

00:19:46.000 What do you mean by 80 billion?

00:19:47.000 That's all we're getting because the average is 2%.

00:19:49.000 By the way, if we right now are spending our $4 trillion and we have to find a way to lower taxes to 0%, now watch what we could do.

00:19:58.000 Here's a couple things to be thinking about.

00:20:00.000 Number one, if we made the average tariff on everybody 25%, that's a trillion dollars that we would get.

00:20:08.000 You don't have a choice.

00:20:09.000 Guess what?

00:20:10.000 Here's what we're doing.

00:20:11.000 It's going to go up to a trillion dollars.

00:20:14.000 It's 25% across the board for everybody.

00:20:16.000 Really, yes, we need that income.

00:20:17.000 But they say it's going to crash the markets.

00:20:19.000 It's going to destroy the American economy.

00:20:21.000 They can say that all they want.

00:20:23.000 What if we can increase some of the prices?

00:20:25.000 The question the average person needs to ask is, are you willing to entertain the idea of prices on goods going up 25-50% while taxes going to zero?

00:20:34.000 Would you entertain that idea?

00:20:35.000 Let's just kind of ask the question.

00:20:36.000 Would you entertain that idea?

00:20:37.000 By the way, this guy named Elon Musk, when he bought Twitter, you know what he did?

00:20:39.000 It went from 7,500 employees to next week he fires half of them, 3,750.

00:20:45.000 The 3,750 that quit called another 1,250 to quit.

00:20:48.000 The guy went from 7,500 employees to 2,500 employees in around a month.

00:20:53.000 So do you not think he, Bobby Vivek, can take the amount of employees we have and say, listen guys, All this stuff we're paying you, go find a job in the real world like everybody else.

00:21:02.000 Look, I'm just happy the fact that we're looking at cutting spending and how we do that.

00:21:08.000 I don't even know if we need 800 military bases around the world.

00:21:10.000 Why?

00:21:11.000 Why do we need 800 million?

00:21:12.000 There's so many ways to cut it.

00:21:14.000 The right people are leading it.

00:21:15.000 I'm curious to know what their next 5, 10, 15 moves are going to be.

00:21:18.000 But whatever we're doing, cutting spending is coming.

00:21:22.000 And that's only an argument for us to be able to lower taxes for you and I. And so through the Department of Government Efficiency, you've gone into business before and you're able to identify waste, identify, let's just say, allocation of resources that are not efficient.

00:21:36.000 One of the major issues that Doge is going to have, though, is dealing with the bureaucracy, actually being able to fire people, actually being able to lay them off.

00:21:44.000 If you were to give them advice as an outsider, as an analytical thinker, How should they go about this?

00:21:49.000 Because at some point they're going to get an injunction from a judge saying, you can't do this, you can't fire this.

00:21:54.000 What is your open advice to Doge to make sure that they have a successful mission?

00:21:59.000 Well, I like what Vivek said about two, three weeks ago where he said, we're going to need Congress, right?

00:22:03.000 But think about it right now with what Elon showed just in the last few months with the amount of money that he put in different PACs.

00:22:12.000 Imagine him, the stories you hear about that he stayed in Pennsylvania, I think you said for 45 days, I don't know what it was, whether I heard it from you or somebody else.

00:22:19.000 This guy went and realized Pennsylvania was the state and he stayed there.

00:22:23.000 How many people lived in Florida for the last few months just to make sure this election was going to be done with?

00:22:27.000 I remember Tulsi saying, she hasn't been to Hawaii since April.

00:22:31.000 That's what I remember her saying in an interview.

00:22:33.000 We have plenty of true believers there, but they're going to need Congress.

00:22:37.000 So, guess what?

00:22:38.000 These are some of the things we're working on.

00:22:41.000 A part of it is a little bit, you know, leverage game.

00:22:45.000 This is purely a leverage game.

00:22:47.000 You want to get, you know, you want to go through the next phase of favor and additional things you're going to need.

00:22:52.000 You want to be sponsored.

00:22:53.000 You want to be able to get endorsed for your next one.

00:22:55.000 We don't mind doing that.

00:22:56.000 But look, you got to play ball.

00:22:58.000 Here's what we want to do.

00:22:59.000 These are ideas.

00:23:00.000 FYI, Congress, left, right, or center, specifically right.

00:23:03.000 This is what America voted for.

00:23:05.000 America voted for these policies.

00:23:08.000 We won on these policies.

00:23:10.000 Do you want to get re-elected?

00:23:11.000 I do.

00:23:12.000 Well then, guess what?

00:23:13.000 Do what American people voted for to win those seven battleground states.

00:23:18.000 We didn't win five out of seven.

00:23:19.000 Not three out of seven.

00:23:20.000 Not two out of seven.

00:23:21.000 Seven out of seven.

00:23:22.000 So every time Congress or somebody doesn't support that and say, listen...

00:23:27.000 You voted American people.

00:23:29.000 This person does not support what you put us in here to do.

00:23:33.000 He's getting in the way.

00:23:35.000 If you want us to keep continuing to do this, you have to make sure this person is going to prevent us from making this country more efficient.

00:23:43.000 If you want us to get more efficient, you got to get somebody else to replace this house job seat that is an XYZ place. 0.99

00:23:49.000 There's going to be a lot of power plays, Charlie.

00:23:52.000 But the reality, American people told you what they want.

00:23:56.000 Every single Congress, Senator, everybody I talked to, I'm going to tell them, don't forget what American people said.

00:24:02.000 And if you actually go back and think about the sequencing of Elon, you look at him right now, every time he retweets a video or something he posts, all he has to say is very interesting.

00:24:12.000 28 million views.

00:24:14.000 22 million views.

00:24:15.000 A bad one is 17 million views.

00:24:18.000 Big one, 200 million views.

00:24:19.000 100 million views.

00:24:20.000 80 million views.

00:24:21.000 The amount of influence he has with X, I think he's the most powerful man in America.

00:24:27.000 I know, you know, I'm talking to an audience, but a lot of folks that are...

00:24:32.000 And I understand Trump and all that.

00:24:34.000 I totally get it.

00:24:35.000 Politically, I understand that.

00:24:35.000 I understand.

00:24:37.000 But Elon's going to be around for 20, 30 years.

00:24:40.000 This game is not changing.

00:24:42.000 He's going to be around for a while and he has access to maybe the most important news station out there called X. So a lot of these Congress guys, they're going to need to play ball or else the American people are going to say, we need to find somebody else to do your job for you.

00:24:57.000 I mean, I completely agree.

00:24:59.000 I think that there's a whole paradigm shift in how we view politics in the art of the possible and all of our preconceived notions of the size and scope of government from how spending is done and appropriated.

00:25:13.000 To just how we view our elected leaders, I think it's all changing.

00:25:17.000 I think it's all changing, and that's because the media is changing itself.

00:25:21.000 PPD, before we get into the media thing, I want to make sure we have an opportunity.

00:25:24.000 Can you please educate our audience on MNECT? We have that on the lower third, MNECT.com.

00:25:29.000 I've been using it a lot.

00:25:30.000 I'm using it increasingly.

00:25:32.000 It's a wonderful platform.

00:25:33.000 Please tell our audience about it.

00:25:35.000 Yeah, you know, it's a great question.

00:25:36.000 This happened to me many years ago when I had a call with a lawyer.

00:25:39.000 We had a seven-minute call.

00:25:41.000 The guy billed me for 30 minutes.

00:25:42.000 I said, why are you billing me for 30 minutes?

00:25:44.000 He says, you know, minutes roll up.

00:25:45.000 I said, I want to pay you by the minute.

00:25:47.000 He says, there's no such thing as paying me by the minute.

00:25:49.000 I said, I'd like to build an app or something that I get to pay people by the minute to connect.

00:25:53.000 So, do you have a minute to connect?

00:25:55.000 Let's minect.

00:25:56.000 And minect, what it does is, if you send a cold email to anybody right now, less than 1% response rate.

00:26:02.000 If you send a DM, 3%.

00:26:04.000 X LinkedIn, 5-8%.

00:26:06.000 On Manect, there's a 91% response rate because you're paying for a response.

00:26:13.000 Everybody's time nowadays is valuable.

00:26:15.000 If you want a response from Charlie, you've got to pay for it.

00:26:18.000 If you want a response from so many different influencers that are on Manect right now, you can get a hold of them.

00:26:22.000 You can do a 15-minute call with them.

00:26:24.000 You can do a...

00:26:24.000 Video response, text response, but the app has become one of the best networking apps worldwide right now.

00:26:30.000 We're in 46 countries.

00:26:32.000 By the end of the year, we'll be at 180 countries, but it's grown exponentially.

00:26:35.000 It's minek.com.

00:26:37.000 We're going to be talking about it at AmericaFest as well.

00:26:39.000 It's a way that I communicate with a lot of people in the audience.

00:26:42.000 It's terrific.

00:26:43.000 Okay, let's do this as a setup here.

00:26:45.000 This is the changing media landscape.

00:26:47.000 This is Stephanie Ruhle saying she got access to President Trump and he told her to go, you know, away.

00:26:55.000 But if she wanted to get a hold of Vice President Harris, it was 50 layers of handlers.

00:26:59.000 It's very interesting.

00:27:00.000 I don't know if you saw this clip or not.

00:27:02.000 Yes, I did.

00:27:03.000 I did.

00:27:03.000 Play cut 60. Donald Trump had that crazy rally at Madison Square Garden.

00:27:09.000 Oh, wow.

00:27:10.000 Yeah.

00:27:11.000 I rolled the dice and I called him on the phone.

00:27:18.000 And he answered!

00:27:20.000 Of course he did!

00:27:21.000 Of course!

00:27:22.000 I was able to get to him by dialing his phone.

00:27:25.000 Now that might be completely apeshit, and you're like, I can't believe people know this guy's phone number.

00:27:30.000 But the reverse of that, if I were to want to connect with VP Harris or President Biden, there's 50 people between me and that.

00:27:40.000 I could write a note that maybe could get to somebody to get somebody, then through Pony Express and a pigeon, something might end up in a mailbox near them.

00:27:48.000 And I called DJT to say, yo, can I have an interview?

00:27:50.000 He told me to go f*** myself.

00:27:52.000 But I still was able to connect with him.

00:27:54.000 Yeah.

00:27:55.000 But he still picked up.

00:27:57.000 PBD. That is so powerful.

00:27:59.000 Let me tell you, I'm going to tell you a crazy story here.

00:28:00.000 So I'm starting an insurance agency.

00:28:03.000 I'm in a room and there's two different people debating whether you should be accessible to your insurance agents or whether you should seem like you're so busy that you're not accessible to create the aura of, oh my God, he's so busy you can never get a hold of me because this book called 40 Allows of Power and there's a heated debate going on.

00:28:22.000 One girl says, nope, you got to be accessible.

00:28:24.000 The other guy says, don't be accessible.

00:28:26.000 You will spoil them because they can always get a hold of you.

00:28:29.000 I went to the girl and I said, listen, man, I just think this is the right philosophy.

00:28:33.000 We chose the philosophy of being accessible.

00:28:36.000 Do you know how many opportunities you miss out on if you're not accessible?

00:28:39.000 Do you know what's crazy?

00:28:40.000 When I had Dwayne The Rock Johnson at our event at the Palm Beach Convention Center.

00:28:45.000 We're going back and forth.

00:28:47.000 I'm inviting him to the event.

00:28:49.000 He's calling me on a Sunday.

00:28:50.000 We're texting back and forth, talking about the terms.

00:28:54.000 And I said, I've dealt with a lot of celebrities that you bring to events.

00:28:58.000 There is no way you're going to have a direct layer.

00:29:01.000 He was a direct layer guy.

00:29:02.000 Mark Cuban, love him or hate him, had him on the podcast nine years ago.

00:29:06.000 And when we spoke, he was not a hard guy to get a hold of.

00:29:09.000 You don't have to like the guy, but you have to respect the guy that you can get a hold of him.

00:29:13.000 One of Trump's biggest gifts, Is that?

00:29:16.000 He's not afraid.

00:29:18.000 He'll pick up the phone and tell you no, but he's not afraid.

00:29:21.000 And FYI, when Vanity Fair or a lot of these guys were calling us and asking us questions and saying, what do you think about this Manosphere, Podcast Bros, Barron Trump, all of this stuff that he's doing, you know, why would somebody go and campaign on podcasts?

00:29:40.000 Isn't that like almost beneath him?

00:29:42.000 And I'm almost listening to this guy saying, You're the problem.

00:29:47.000 Look how pompous you sound.

00:29:49.000 Look how arrogant and conceited you sound.

00:29:52.000 This is why the American people is sick of you.

00:29:55.000 They're sick of it, right?

00:29:57.000 And this guy is willing to go talk.

00:29:59.000 She's telling the story and you can tell the guy to her left.

00:30:02.000 Our right is on the left and he's like very sarcastic and condescending about it.

00:30:06.000 But guess what?

00:30:07.000 He picks up.

00:30:09.000 Kamala Harris, oh Rogan, why don't you come to us?

00:30:11.000 No, you're in Texas.

00:30:13.000 No, no, no.

00:30:13.000 Come by.

00:30:14.000 You know, we just, you know, we're too busy right now.

00:30:17.000 You think you're busier than Trump?

00:30:18.000 Do you really think you're busier than Trump?

00:30:20.000 Trump has an event going on, I believe, in Michigan, if I'm not mistaken.

00:30:23.000 That's right.

00:30:24.000 He goes to Boston.

00:30:25.000 That's right.

00:30:26.000 There you go.

00:30:27.000 So he does the podcast with Rogan for three hours, flies to Michigan, gets there, I don't know what time, 10-11 at midnight.

00:30:33.000 And he still gives his talk.

00:30:35.000 And he's 78 years old, Charlie.

00:30:38.000 He's 78 years old.

00:30:39.000 It's even crazier than that.

00:30:40.000 So let me, if I could just chime in, and I do have a direct question.

00:30:43.000 We hosted the president in Atlanta, Georgia, two days before.

00:30:43.000 Please.

00:30:47.000 Then we hosted the president in Vegas.

00:30:48.000 So the president does three events in Georgia, ours being the last one, ending at 11 p.m., red eyes all the way to Vegas. 1.00

00:30:57.000 Does a whole tour out west, right?

00:30:59.000 Arizona, he goes up to Carson City, ends with us in Vegas.

00:31:03.000 Wakes up the next morning at 6 a.m., flies to Austin, does a press conference, does three hours sharp with Rogan, flies to Novi, Michigan, three hours late, ends at midnight, and flies down to Mar-a-Lago and holds court on the plane all the way until 3.30 a.m.

00:31:20.000 Eastern, holding court, making phone calls, waking people up, getting things going.

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00:32:32.000 People say it's the McDonald's.

00:32:34.000 Honestly, it's hard to disprove.

00:32:35.000 The deeper question, though, is I love being able to just be able to call the president straight up.

00:32:40.000 It's hard to describe how rare that is because do you think, PBD, the more layering is a sign of insecurity?

00:32:50.000 Is it a sign of elitism?

00:32:53.000 What is it?

00:32:55.000 Psychoanalyze people that have platoons of handlers and you can't deal direct.

00:33:01.000 Listen, I do like that Susie Wiles, I believe she said, if you're going to let me do my job, you can't have an open door policy with the White House and you have to let me kind of protect it a little bit.

00:33:13.000 So I do think there's extreme measures to that as well.

00:33:16.000 So I kind of like the fact that there's a part of the strategy where some people do need to be filtered because They're wasting your time and they just want to take a picture and go back and say, hey, you know, so you need to do that part.

00:33:26.000 But let me go to the other side.

00:33:27.000 I said this to Jesse last night, maybe two nights ago.

00:33:30.000 There's something very unique about a man who has been around many attractive women his entire life.

00:33:38.000 Donald Trump.

00:33:39.000 What's powerful about that is your knees don't buckle when you're around beautiful women. 1.00

00:33:43.000 You've seen many.

00:33:44.000 Okay?

00:33:45.000 Number two, there's something very powerful when you have money and you've had to find your thing.

00:33:50.000 The weird things like, this door is made out of gold.

00:33:53.000 Like, weird stories that just kind of like, doesn't make any sense, right?

00:33:57.000 And a penthouse I sold to Bocelli, $45 million, and you know, but I don't...

00:34:03.000 Partying with Salma Hayek and all these other people, being invited, being in movies like Home Alone and rappers, Tupac talking about you.

00:34:11.000 Listen, you made the money.

00:34:13.000 So nothing's going to...

00:34:14.000 Hey, if you do this, we're going to give you a book deal.

00:34:16.000 And then number three, you've met so many people, you're not enamored by anybody.

00:34:20.000 Who hasn't he met?

00:34:21.000 Who's going to impress him?

00:34:23.000 So even with that, you don't have any layers.

00:34:26.000 Anybody I work with, Charlie...

00:34:29.000 That always fake acted like, you know, the whole act as if you're busy, act as if you're rich.

00:34:34.000 I totally agree.

00:34:36.000 What was that movie?

00:34:37.000 The movie about the stockbrokers, JT Marlin.

00:34:42.000 I don't know what the movie is called, but it's a movie with Vin Diesel and a couple of these other guys.

00:34:45.000 Boiler Room.

00:34:46.000 That's what the movie was.

00:34:47.000 It's the act as if mentality.

00:34:49.000 Sometimes in life, you meet someone that doesn't act as if he is.

00:34:55.000 Kamala had to act as if.

00:34:57.000 Biden had to act as if.

00:34:59.000 Everybody on that side had to act as if.

00:35:01.000 There is no act as if.

00:35:02.000 You want to talk to me?

00:35:03.000 You can get a hold of me.

00:35:04.000 It's a sign of a tough guy.

00:35:05.000 I'm not afraid of you.

00:35:06.000 What do you want to talk about?

00:35:07.000 No.

00:35:07.000 It's a sign of confidence, isn't it?

00:35:10.000 I mean, more than anything else.

00:35:11.000 In a major way.

00:35:12.000 Major way.

00:35:14.000 He said the other day over 100 world leaders called him.

00:35:19.000 He's spoken to already over 100 world leaders.

00:35:21.000 How many meetings is he having every night at Mar-a-Lago?

00:35:24.000 Imagine if somebody else would have won.

00:35:26.000 They would have been in Hawaii for three weeks celebrating.

00:35:28.000 This guy's already working and everybody's coming to him.

00:35:30.000 This is a very different story.

00:35:32.000 By the way, the biggest factor with this, I'm not worried about the next four years.

00:35:37.000 I'm looking at this as the next 20, 30, 40 years, okay?

00:35:41.000 My hope is that the next guy or gal, while they're studying this case study of 2024, what they realize is, Nikki Haley, we invited her on the podcast, never showed up, okay?

00:35:54.000 Why?

00:35:54.000 Never.

00:35:55.000 She's above us.

00:35:57.000 Governor DeSantis, after God knows how much bullying we did, he finally showed up.

00:36:01.000 Because it's like, wow, wow, wow, finally you show up, right?

00:36:05.000 President Trump showed up to our podcast, drove up with 36 different Secret Service helicopter, all this stuff.

00:36:10.000 He showed up.

00:36:11.000 But how many people didn't?

00:36:12.000 Why didn't they show up?

00:36:14.000 How many times did Bobby come and do a town hall with us?

00:36:16.000 How many podcasts did Vivek do?

00:36:18.000 I just hope the takeaway from this isn't just that we have better ideas and policies.

00:36:26.000 I hope the case study from 2024 has got to be, you've got to work your ass off, drive, go everywhere, be accessible.

00:36:33.000 You have to earn every vote.

00:36:35.000 You can't just think because you're better right here to win.

00:36:37.000 You have to be able to take risks.

00:36:39.000 I mean, the buried lead of the McDonald's thing is that there was no guarantee that that was going to fly.

00:36:44.000 It could have come across as really cringe.

00:36:46.000 It could have been like a Dukakis 2.0.

00:36:49.000 You have to be able to take the risks, play to win, And in some ways, you look at Trump 2020 versus 2024. Trump played to win way more in 2024. He had his back against the wall.

00:37:03.000 I agree.

00:37:03.000 Great points.

00:37:04.000 You made a very good point.

00:37:05.000 No, he played offense.

00:37:06.000 I think 2020 was a little bit upset.

00:37:08.000 2020 was kind of like, it's not fair.

00:37:10.000 I can't believe they're doing this.

00:37:11.000 I think what happened to 2020, everybody at one point has a rough patch.

00:37:16.000 You go to season, like, while you know you're right, and you're trying to tell everybody you're right.

00:37:21.000 And sometimes it can work against you.

00:37:23.000 It's unattractive, right?

00:37:25.000 But I think 2023, 2024, in 2024, he was in flow state.

00:37:29.000 It was done.

00:37:30.000 When he went into flow state, it was done.

00:37:33.000 In 2020, look, COVID was tough for everybody.

00:37:36.000 And it was unexpected.

00:37:37.000 And there was so much stuff that he was being blamed for that was second and third tier removed from him.

00:37:44.000 And it was tough.

00:37:45.000 They tried to throw him off his game.

00:37:47.000 But in 2024, he set the terms.

00:37:49.000 And yeah, they did try to throw him off with Lawfare and with obviously him getting shot.

00:37:53.000 But he was in that flow state.

00:37:55.000 And evidenced by, you know this PBD, and you probably coached this with all of the amazing people that come to you, is that you get energy that you didn't know you had when you're in flow state.

00:38:05.000 He was up for 72 hours straight.

00:38:08.000 72 hours straight.

00:38:10.000 It's straight.

00:38:11.000 With just Diet Cokes, Big Macs, and Happy Meats.

00:38:16.000 So, PBD, being around the biggest CEOs, can you talk about how when you have aligned purpose, you are able to physically push yourself to places you never thought before?

00:38:26.000 And I think President Trump embodied that.

00:38:28.000 Because everyone marvels, they say, how does he do it?

00:38:30.000 Look, there's a genetic component.

00:38:31.000 I mean, he's just built differently, right?

00:38:32.000 He's just built differently than you and I. If I ate like him, I'd be 385 pounds.

00:38:37.000 But the power of purpose...

00:38:41.000 Yeah, so look, you'll find a lot of guys in business that are just brilliant, and so they make money because they're extremely intelligent and brilliant, right?

00:38:49.000 And then you'll have guys that are brilliant, extremely intelligent, and they were offended and they have a certain drive to go to tell somebody, hey, I'm more successful than you.

00:38:59.000 Then there's those guys that are strategic, that are in rooms and they can hear everybody talking to board and they'll say, I think we need to do this, this, that.

00:39:07.000 Johnny, what do you think about what Billy just said?

00:39:07.000 What do you think, Johnny?

00:39:09.000 Billy, do you agree with Johnny?

00:39:10.000 I don't.

00:39:11.000 Can you tell us why you don't marry?

00:39:12.000 Whose side are you on?

00:39:13.000 Those types of people behind closed doors, but it can do that.

00:39:16.000 Then you got the connectors, the Charles Schwab type of guys that know how to go shake hands and build a relationship and raise billions of dollars of money.

00:39:23.000 Those are all good strengths that you have.

00:39:25.000 But there's one thing that is by far, Charlie, the most intimidating quality of an entrepreneur, founder, CEO, businessman, athlete, anybody want to talk about.

00:39:35.000 There is not a quality more intimidating than this.

00:39:39.000 Not one quality more intimidating than this.

00:39:42.000 When you know you're going to compete with somebody...

00:39:45.000 The person here who knows they have this quality, they know they're not going to stop.

00:39:52.000 In business, I learned you can outwork people and you'll win.

00:39:55.000 Then most people read 50 books, 100 books.

00:39:58.000 They take a few courses.

00:39:59.000 You can out-improve them, but eventually most people settle.

00:40:02.000 You can outstrategize people and learn strategies on how to scale, grow, compete, technology, marketing, storytelling, great.

00:40:09.000 All of those three you can do, you still won't be the top 1% of 1%.

00:40:12.000 The last one is the outlast.

00:40:14.000 President Trump is the epitome of outlast.

00:40:17.000 He's not going to stop.

00:40:19.000 The game of business, look how many people are sitting there watching Elon saying, you're worth $400 billion.

00:40:25.000 How much more money do you make?

00:40:27.000 People don't understand.

00:40:28.000 Elon's not doing it because he needs another $400 billion and he just wants to go buy a house or big watch or a car.

00:40:35.000 That's been out of his system for 20 years.

00:40:36.000 He's on a mission.

00:40:38.000 He's got a vision he's pursuing.

00:40:40.000 President Trump has the stamina that scares the hell out of everybody else on the other side.

00:40:46.000 In the business world, anytime you have someone, the leader at the top that has stamina, I'll never forget the interview.

00:40:52.000 This is very interesting, by the way.

00:40:53.000 The former CEO of Starbucks...

00:40:56.000 It was a former McKinsey guy, and I believe he was a Pepsi guy.

00:40:58.000 He comes to Starbucks, they hire him.

00:41:00.000 He's doing an interview with Forbes, and he says, if anybody calls me after 6pm, I ask him, why are you calling me after 6pm?

00:41:09.000 Don't call me after 6pm.

00:41:10.000 Let's talk about it tomorrow.

00:41:12.000 I'm watching this interview.

00:41:13.000 I'm like, you're running a $110 billion company called Starbucks, give or take.

00:41:17.000 What the hell do you mean don't call me after 6 p.m.?

00:41:20.000 So at the time when this guy's the CEO of the company of Starbucks, $110 billion, he's only a CEO for 18 or 19 months.

00:41:26.000 Somebody can correct me on this, but it's 18 or 19 months.

00:41:28.000 Do you know in his time of being the CEO of Starbucks, Starbucks' valuation went from $110 billion, give or take, to roughly $70 billion.

00:41:36.000 He lost $40 billion of valuation of Starbucks.

00:41:41.000 Starbucks goes and hires a guy from a company called Chipotle.

00:41:44.000 The CEO of Chipotle, this guy's a freak, I think his name is Brian Nichol.

00:41:48.000 The CEO of Chipotle, who's been there for six years, during his six years there, he takes Chipotle from $7 billion in valuation to $71 billion in valuation.

00:41:59.000 Nearly 10x, over 10x in the valuation of Chipotle.

00:42:03.000 The day Starbucks hires and announces the new CEO, I think his pay package was like almost $200 million.

00:42:09.000 Everybody's like, oh my God, what a highly paid CEO. Why would Starbucks pay this Brian Nickel guy $200 million?

00:42:15.000 He's not worth it.

00:42:17.000 In one day, Starbucks' valuation went up $20 billion in one day.

00:42:23.000 They pay this guy $150, $200 million.

00:42:25.000 Somebody can verify it on this.

00:42:27.000 That day Starbucks goes out $20 billion.

00:42:28.000 Why?

00:42:29.000 You need a leader that's running 24-7, that burden most people don't want.

00:42:35.000 Most people are trying to be a president to kind of put it on their resume and checklist.

00:42:38.000 Look who I am.

00:42:39.000 I'm the president.

00:42:40.000 They're going to make books and history books.

00:42:42.000 They're going to write about me.

00:42:43.000 Every once in a while somebody's like, listen man, I'm the...

00:42:45.000 I'm a government employee that gets paid $450,000, whatever the number is, which I give back to charity anyways.

00:42:51.000 I love my country.

00:42:52.000 It's America first. 0.94

00:42:53.000 And I'm a tough guy, and I'm not going to let them do anything to my country.

00:42:57.000 That outlasting your peers is so intimidating, and that's what Trump's got.

00:43:01.000 There's so much more we could discuss here, but the last one I want to ask is the CEOs coming and kissing the ring.

00:43:07.000 It feels different than 2017. Some of them did it in 2017, but it feels like this is a complete power realignment, that there's an understanding that Trump and his movement is here to stay, and that the Bezos, the Zuckerbergs, the Googles, that they want to be on the right side of this.

00:43:25.000 It feels different than just, oh, I want to try to win Trump over for four years because I don't want the government to come after me.

00:43:31.000 Am I right in sensing that it's deeper than that, PBD? You know what it's like?

00:43:36.000 Let me kind of give it to you from this standpoint.

00:43:38.000 A lot of us have been defending Trump for eight years.

00:43:43.000 Where it was not cool to do so, okay?

00:43:46.000 Like, I remember when I first started doing it, my channel was Valuetainment.

00:43:49.000 Still till today, we have, you know, six and a half million subscribers.

00:43:52.000 It was mainly business.

00:43:54.000 I was talking business, and one day I'm like, I can't help myself.

00:43:57.000 I want to talk politics.

00:43:58.000 My life is a little weird.

00:43:59.000 I want to talk about politics.

00:44:00.000 So we start PBD Podcasts.

00:44:01.000 We start talking about politics.

00:44:03.000 Everybody said, oh, Pat's done.

00:44:05.000 His stuff is going to die.

00:44:06.000 These guys, your biggest mistake.

00:44:08.000 You don't go from being the number one YouTube channel on entrepreneurship to not talking about, he's done.

00:44:12.000 I'm like, nah, I disagree.

00:44:14.000 I think people want to talk about the topics you're afraid to talk about.

00:44:17.000 I'm comfortable talking about it.

00:44:18.000 No, you're screwing it up.

00:44:20.000 You shouldn't be doing this.

00:44:21.000 Some of us did this early on.

00:44:23.000 There was a lot of guys that were afraid of talking about this.

00:44:26.000 Some started four years ago.

00:44:28.000 Some started two years ago.

00:44:30.000 Some started a year ago.

00:44:31.000 Some just started.

00:44:33.000 Some people started saying pro-Trump stuff after Trump won.

00:44:37.000 So, for example, when Elon Musk is at the White House or Mar-a-Lago and Zuck shows up and you see the clip about Elon kind of like barking a little bit at Zuck.

00:44:47.000 Why is he barking?

00:44:48.000 I think what Elon's trying to say is, where have you been?

00:44:51.000 Huh?

00:44:52.000 Where have you been?

00:44:53.000 I put my ass on the line two years ago and look what they tried to do to me.

00:44:56.000 Now you want to show up and you write that letter to Honorable Chair Jim Jordan, the fact that Biden and his administration bullied you a little bit and you take responsibility for it.

00:45:04.000 Now you want to say it?

00:45:05.000 Which, by the way, I understand Elon's argument and it's fine.

00:45:08.000 He needs to be that guy to push these guys around.

00:45:11.000 But the other part of it is, well, is I don't mind it.

00:45:14.000 I don't mind the fact that Altman is giving a million dollars to inauguration.

00:45:18.000 And Altman and Musk don't like each other because we know he went from a non-profit to a for-profit and Elon's not having that, right?

00:45:24.000 That's why he started a different company right now to compete directly with OpenAI.

00:45:28.000 I don't mind that Zuck wrote that open letter.

00:45:30.000 That's humiliating for the Democratic Party.

00:45:32.000 I don't mind that he gave a million.

00:45:34.000 I don't mind that Bezos is now coming and Bezos, you know, Elon tweets on and says, hey, did somebody tell me that Bezos was doing this?

00:45:40.000 And then Bezos responds back to Elon and says, that's not true.

00:45:43.000 I don't mind that Elon is pushing his weight and checking everybody and getting all of these guys to get in line and, you know, being held accountable.

00:45:51.000 But it's also okay for some people to realize and say, look, I effed up.

00:45:54.000 I messed up.

00:45:55.000 I was wrong.

00:45:56.000 I'm here.

00:45:56.000 You were right.

00:45:57.000 What can we do to make this relationship better moving forward?

00:45:59.000 By the way, Tim Cook, I'll put him as a complete outside.

00:46:02.000 He was the first openly gay CEO of a Fortune 100 company.

00:46:07.000 Tim Cook, he was the first guy that came out and said that.

00:46:09.000 Do you know his relationship with Trump has always been good?

00:46:13.000 They asked him, they said, hey, why is it that you have a relationship with Trump?

00:46:16.000 He says, because whenever I called him, he'd pick up.

00:46:19.000 Obama and others wouldn't pick up.

00:46:21.000 Obama's a liberal.

00:46:23.000 Tim Cook, do you realize how- We got to wrap, but it goes back to the same thing, which is like, how much of life is just being accessible, listening?

00:46:31.000 How much of it?

00:46:32.000 It's so simple.

00:46:33.000 Not layering yourself with Praetorian guards and fake handlers.

00:46:37.000 No one's more important than Trump.

00:46:38.000 And you could call him and say, hey, what's up?

00:46:40.000 And he'll tell you, let's have lunch or go take a hike.

00:46:44.000 PBD, you're the man.

00:46:45.000 See you at AMFest.

00:46:45.000 Thanks so much.

00:46:46.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:46:47.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 19, 2024

How Barack Obama Ruined The Democrats ft. PBD

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