The Charlie Kirk Show - November 01, 2022


How Brazil Got California'd


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In this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie talks about what's going on in Brazil and why it's a good thing we don't have an electoral college, and why we should have one in the United States.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show.
00:00:01.000 What's going on in Brazil?
00:00:03.000 Very confusing reports out of there and seems to be an unfortunate outcome.
00:00:06.000 And Chadwick Moore, as we talk about the diversity, equity, inclusion machine.
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00:01:23.000 Brazil is making some international headlines for now unfortunately displacing the great leader Jair Bolsinheiro.
00:01:34.000 So look, in Brazil, they have an interesting system.
00:01:37.000 They have a straight popular vote system.
00:01:40.000 And if Brazil had an electoral college, Bolsiniero would have won.
00:01:44.000 So I know very little about Brazil politics.
00:01:46.000 I know probably more than an average American, but I'm far from an expert on it.
00:01:51.000 But there's different regions, and Bolsiniero won every single region except what is in Portuguese called the Nordeste region, of which I don't know where that is.
00:02:00.000 I'm guessing that is the most populated area of the country.
00:02:07.000 And so, or, yeah, if it's Northeast, and I don't know what, yeah, I guess that would be, I don't know what, I guess that's the population center.
00:02:16.000 I can't imagine Rio de Janeiro is in the northeastern part of the country, as per they describe it.
00:02:21.000 Okay, it's not, but he won it in a big way, I guess.
00:02:24.000 So if you look at the percentages, though, if you win 70-30 in that one portion of the country, then you are able to basically run the table.
00:02:34.000 It's basically like just winning California 75-25 and then you become president.
00:02:39.000 You see, the Electoral College is a Republican idea, not a Republican Party idea, but a small R republic idea.
00:02:47.000 The American founders were extremely wise.
00:02:50.000 The Constitution spreads power across branches of government, but it also spreads over geography and time.
00:02:57.000 This is what makes a republic different than a democracy.
00:03:03.000 I have been on the record, and I'll say it again: democracy is a bad idea.
00:03:08.000 We are not a democracy.
00:03:09.000 Democracy is unsustainable.
00:03:12.000 They always say, our democracy, our democracy, our democracy.
00:03:15.000 We're not a democracy, and we never should be a democracy.
00:03:19.000 Democracies fold very quickly.
00:03:22.000 In fact, you can go back to numerous citations of ancient wisdom about the warnings of democracy.
00:03:32.000 Look, it's very difficult to take over the American political system on a whim or a passing political moment.
00:03:39.000 Think about Floyda Palooza during the summer of 2020.
00:03:42.000 You need to convince voters in different states with different backgrounds, demographics, needs, jobs, economic concerns to work in harmony together.
00:03:54.000 This system has worked very well to preserve our freedom and liberty.
00:03:57.000 You see, a republic is designed to pursue liberty, which is the pursuit of virtue, to protect liberty, which is the pursuit of virtue.
00:04:05.000 That's what a republic is good at.
00:04:07.000 A democracy is good at giving away a lot of free stuff and then giving you a tyrant.
00:04:13.000 You see, the leftist media and the academics go nuts anytime you attack democracy.
00:04:18.000 But I ask them, I say, have you guys read in great detail what Plato tried to warn us about when it came to democracy?
00:04:28.000 Dictatorships naturally arise out of democracies.
00:04:33.000 And you're going to see that happening in Brazil with this left-wing leader.
00:04:39.000 The Electoral College is one of the mechanisms which helps spread power over geography.
00:04:45.000 It protects the country from sectionalism.
00:04:48.000 It perfects the country from the urban masses.
00:04:53.000 A political movement that dominates in just one area can force its will on an entire country.
00:04:58.000 The Electoral College necessitates balance.
00:05:02.000 And so now Brazil is going to have this far-left-wing Marxist take power.
00:05:08.000 So look, Bolsonaro was and is a nationalist.
00:05:12.000 He was a great president.
00:05:13.000 He did a really good job in Brazil.
00:05:15.000 Bolsoniero was very popular, except in one region where Lula ran up the score.
00:05:23.000 And Lula is a very left-wing candidate.
00:05:26.000 He's going to open up the prisons and make Brazil even more dangerous.
00:05:31.000 But thankfully, we're not a democracy.
00:05:33.000 They say Brazil is a democracy.
00:05:35.000 Now, I would love for anyone to come on this program and show me a prosperous, safe democracy right now in America.
00:05:44.000 They say, oh, France, Germany, you think Germany is a prosperous country?
00:05:49.000 They might be temporarily rich, but it's just a matter of time.
00:05:53.000 And by the way, Germany does not respect freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religious conscience.
00:05:59.000 Why would they?
00:05:59.000 They don't at all.
00:06:00.000 They're not a republic.
00:06:01.000 They're a democracy.
00:06:02.000 It's about whoever gets the most amount of stuff.
00:06:06.000 You see, democracy has a common vice.
00:06:10.000 The common vice is the disregard for morality.
00:06:16.000 Remember, Aristotle warned that tolerance and apathy are the last two quote-unquote virtues of a dying society.
00:06:26.000 Plato warned extensively about the downfall and the destruction of what democracy could mean.
00:06:37.000 You see, we've been led to believe in more ways than one that somehow democracy is an ideal.
00:06:42.000 It's not.
00:06:44.000 Representative government is, of course, it is.
00:06:46.000 Constitutional government is.
00:06:48.000 And by the way, if you just look at the election results in Brazil, 5.7 million people that cast a ballot had their ballots invalidated.
00:06:57.000 5.7 million people.
00:06:59.000 As Lula beat Bolsiniero by just about 2 million votes.
00:07:06.000 Makes you think.
00:07:07.000 It is the tightest presidential election in Brazilian history.
00:07:10.000 President Bolsiniero has remained out of public view.
00:07:15.000 And the Superior Electoral Court in Brazil has now declared Lula the winner of the second and final round of voting.
00:07:27.000 It means a lot for the future of the Western world.
00:07:34.000 You can make an argument whether or not Brazil is in the Western world.
00:07:36.000 I would argue that Brazil is in the Western world.
00:07:40.000 But if Brazil had an electoral college, it would look a lot different.
00:07:46.000 Now we have people that are saying, well, we have to trust the elections in Brazil.
00:07:49.000 Oh, really?
00:07:50.000 We must trust the South American elections now?
00:07:54.000 Okay.
00:07:56.000 No, they just want the results that they like.
00:08:01.000 You see, here's how you know you're living in a democracy, also known as a declining society, if tolerance becomes a chief characteristic.
00:08:12.000 Again, tolerance is the last virtue in quotes of a dying society.
00:08:16.000 And who is celebrating this win of Lula in Brazil?
00:08:20.000 China, gangs, drug traffickers. 0.65
00:08:24.000 It's the same blueprint they're going to try to put forward here in America.
00:08:26.000 And by the way, Donald Trump never would have won if we did not have an electoral college.
00:08:30.000 Praise God we have an electoral college.
00:08:33.000 That's why we have a Republican style of government, small R Republican style of government.
00:08:38.000 That's why these midterms matter so much. 0.84
00:08:40.000 Brazil is going to descend into the third world. 0.97
00:08:42.000 It is going to cripple, fall apart. 1.00
00:08:44.000 It's already very dangerous. 1.00
00:08:47.000 And there's already video after video of Brazilian shootings, crooks, thieves, carjackings. 0.97
00:08:52.000 And Brazil is already a very dangerous country. 0.96
00:08:54.000 It's going to become an even more dangerous country.
00:08:59.000 Now, I don't claim to know all the intricacies of this election.
00:09:07.000 There's been a lot of claims against Bolsiniero, corruption and all that.
00:09:10.000 But here's what I know.
00:09:11.000 Bolsonaro loved Brazil, expanded gun rights, and tried his best to turn Brazil into a great country.
00:09:18.000 And if you ask any Brazilian, they'll tell you that the government is extraordinarily corrupt and that half the time they don't really know who's actually running the country.
00:09:26.000 Gangs, the government. 0.88
00:09:28.000 They're very cynical. 0.64
00:09:29.000 And by the way, that's the way America is heading right now.
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00:09:42.000 The problem is there's no room sometimes for fruits or veggies.
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00:10:55.000 Let's go to cut 15. 0.94
00:10:56.000 Mendy Hassan, whoever this person is, asking, could the Biden regime have done more to prevent or slow down the Musk purchase of Twitter?
00:11:05.000 Play cut 15.
00:11:06.000 Julian, I have to ask, could the Biden administration, could Democrats in Congress, have said or done anything to prevent or even slow down this Musk purchase of Twitter?
00:11:16.000 I feel like if George Soros had been buying Twitter, the right would have made far more noise and expressed more outrage.
00:11:22.000 Dems just let it happen as if it's fine for Twitter to become yet another platform for misinformation and hate.
00:11:28.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait a second.
00:11:29.000 Hold on.
00:11:29.000 So Soros does buy a bunch of stuff and we don't do anything about it.
00:11:34.000 Bill Gates does buy a bunch of farmland and we do nothing about it.
00:11:37.000 Bezos does buy the Washington Post and we do nothing about it.
00:11:41.000 Loreen Powell Jobs did buy the Atlantic and we do nothing about it. 0.93
00:11:46.000 No, Mendy Hassan, one of the reasons why the left is so, let's just say discombobulated about this is they thought Elon was one of them.
00:11:55.000 A couple years ago, they thought Elon was a loyal member of Team Left.
00:12:00.000 He's the solar panel guy.
00:12:02.000 He's the electric car guy.
00:12:04.000 You see, there's a very interesting tension here, which is Elon Musk is the monster that has been created by the pagan cult religion of environmentalism.
00:12:13.000 Elon Musk's wealth is made possible thanks to Greta Thunberg and Al Gore.
00:12:21.000 Everybody needs to be in an electric car.
00:12:24.000 And so then he becomes wealthy, thanks to that.
00:12:31.000 So they thought they could control Elon Musk.
00:12:35.000 They thought that they could have Elon Musk completely obedient to their wishes.
00:12:44.000 Turns out Elon Musk doesn't play like that.
00:12:47.000 So now Chris Murphy, the very dangerous senator from Connecticut, says, today I'm requesting the Committee on Foreign Investment, which reviews acquisitions of U.S. businesses by foreign buyers, to conduct an investigation into the national security implications of Saudi Arabia's purchase of Twitter.
00:13:03.000 Is it really Saudi Arabia that's buying Twitter?
00:13:06.000 I thought it was Elon Musk buying Twitter.
00:13:08.000 By the way, Saudi Arabia owned some of Twitter before this.
00:13:11.000 They're just mad at Musk, and they're using this as an excuse. 0.66
00:13:15.000 And by the way, that's a, I'm no fan of Saudi Arabia, but that is just written by the pro-Iranian forces in D.C. That's just, that tweet is written by Iran just to try to slow down Saudi Arabia. 0.64
00:13:27.000 They're going to throw everything they possibly can at Elon Musk.
00:13:30.000 Everything.
00:13:32.000 I have said before, and I'll say it again, that Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter is by far the most consequential single private purchase in American history.
00:13:43.000 If you can find another private purchase that comes close to it of a private actor buying a private asset, then please correct me, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:13:52.000 Please.
00:13:52.000 By the way, on Twitter, our engagement is way up.
00:13:55.000 People are seeing our tweets for the first time ever.
00:13:57.000 We're already seeing a massive benefit from this.
00:14:03.000 And for years, I was kind of known as the Twitter guy.
00:14:05.000 It's kind of nice to be back.
00:14:06.000 After a couple of years in complete and total, we were kind of put on, yeah, you could say we were put in purgatory, but we were kind of put on ALBA.
00:14:17.000 We were kind of excommunicated.
00:14:20.000 What's the right word I'm looking for?
00:14:23.000 Exile.
00:14:23.000 We were in exile.
00:14:24.000 That's what I was looking for.
00:14:25.000 They exiled the Charlie Kirk show, and now we're back.
00:14:29.000 And Elon is liberating all of it.
00:14:31.000 I just, you got to wonder, because Elon really doesn't care about money.
00:14:34.000 He lives in people's homes.
00:14:36.000 He's sold all of his homes personally.
00:14:38.000 He doesn't really care about that stuff.
00:14:40.000 So what else are they going to threaten him with?
00:14:42.000 It's going to be really interesting.
00:14:43.000 They're going to throw everything they can at Elon Musk.
00:14:46.000 Everything.
00:14:47.000 And we got to defend him.
00:14:48.000 I'm telling you.
00:14:50.000 There's this whole story about the DHS leaks.
00:14:52.000 I haven't had a chance to really dive into it.
00:14:54.000 It's the Department of Homeland Security leaks of what's happening.
00:14:57.000 Starting in 2020, the Department of Homeland Security began meeting with Twitter, Facebook, and Wikipedia monthly to coordinate content moderation efforts, which correlates perfectly with in 2020 when they really started to throttle us and they started to censor us and they started to strangle our social media reach on Facebook, on YouTube, on Twitter, and many other platforms.
00:15:21.000 Hey, we actually might stream live on Twitter on election night.
00:15:24.000 That might be fun.
00:15:25.000 We should do that.
00:15:25.000 We will stream live on Getter and also on Twitter.
00:15:28.000 We used to not do that, but Twitter is actually kind of fun now.
00:15:32.000 And we haven't been banned for our tweet that we put up last week.
00:15:36.000 Not yet.
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00:16:43.000 Yeah, we're already trending on Twitter or soon to be because I insulted democracy.
00:16:47.000 Yes, democracy is a bad idea.
00:16:50.000 It's unsustainable.
00:16:52.000 Just read Plato.
00:16:53.000 When has democracy ever been able to sustain itself?
00:16:56.000 Does that mean I'm against elections?
00:16:57.000 Of course not.
00:16:58.000 I believe in consent of the governed, the will of the people through an instrument of a constitutional republic.
00:17:04.000 A democracy is mob rule.
00:17:07.000 That's a bad idea.
00:17:08.000 You get a lot of unrest.
00:17:10.000 Democracy will lead to a dictatorship every single time.
00:17:15.000 Plato wrote, And so tyranny naturally arises out of democracy and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme form of liberty.
00:17:26.000 Okay.
00:17:28.000 Joining us now is a very interesting guest.
00:17:30.000 He says, So you've been sent to diversity training by Chadwick Moore.
00:17:35.000 He's a public speaker, TV commentator.
00:17:37.000 He's the former editor of Large of Out and the advocate and former writer for the New York Times.
00:17:43.000 And he was canceled in 2017 for coming out as a conservative.
00:17:46.000 Chadwick joins us now.
00:17:48.000 Welcome to the program.
00:17:49.000 Hey, Charlie, great to be here.
00:17:51.000 How's it going?
00:17:51.000 Good.
00:17:51.000 I've been a fan from afar for years.
00:17:54.000 Always enjoy your commentary and your courage.
00:17:56.000 So why don't you just tell your story first?
00:17:59.000 You came out as a conservative, as you know, someone who was rather vocal in the gay community.
00:18:05.000 So kind of walk us through that.
00:18:07.000 How open and tolerant and loving was the gay community about your conservative ideas?
00:18:13.000 Right.
00:18:13.000 Well, you know, I grew up in Middle America, came out as gay when I was like 15 years old, had no problems at all in Red America, and came out conservative in my early 30s in New York City, where I live, and was immediately canceled, lost all my friends, fired from all my jobs, all of this sort of stuff.
00:18:32.000 The impetus was that I was, you know, I worked in liberal media.
00:18:36.000 I was editor-at-large for Out Magazine, The Advocate.
00:18:38.000 I wrote for New York Times, places like that, as you had mentioned.
00:18:41.000 And after the election of Donald Trump, I just sort of was tired of keeping quiet.
00:18:46.000 I'd always kept my politics to myself.
00:18:48.000 And I kind of hit a breaking point after watching the reaction to Trump's election in 2016 and how most of my colleagues were behaving so unhinged and become so publicly Trump deranged.
00:19:01.000 So I, you know, I just wrote a piece in the New York Post basically saying, you know, I don't want people to think that I'm like these other journalists just because I work in liberal media.
00:19:11.000 I'm a gay guy in New York.
00:19:13.000 And, you know, I believe in freedom of speech.
00:19:15.000 I believe that the leftist media institutions have become a sort of hive mind of Trump derangement and a really destructive form of liberalism and progressivism.
00:19:26.000 And that was, you know, a bridge too far for the tolerant and loving LGBT community and, of course, the political left.
00:19:34.000 And I was totally canceled.
00:19:35.000 And that was sort of the start in 2017.
00:19:40.000 So walk us through kind of your own reaction to that, because, you know, being part of the gay community, you probably had some impressions that there was kind of an open-mindedness or a live and let live nature.
00:19:55.000 Maybe not.
00:19:55.000 Maybe you knew they were all totalitarians.
00:19:57.000 But how did you process, not all of, obviously not all, but the vast majority.
00:20:02.000 How did you process that?
00:20:03.000 Because I mean, some of my favorite people to talk to are Dave Rubin and Rick Grinnell, kind of very similar approaches to this topic, but it must have been like a shock and awe campaign, wasn't it?
00:20:16.000 At that period of time where you get fired or canceled and kind of driven out because you have a heterodox idea.
00:20:22.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:20:24.000 Because I've always been a kind of civil libertarian.
00:20:26.000 You know, nothing really about me has changed.
00:20:28.000 I just sort of really, you know, I used to vote Democrat.
00:20:30.000 I voted for Obama twice.
00:20:31.000 And I just sort of realized I was standing on the wrong side.
00:20:35.000 And what I'd sort of thought about the right wasn't necessarily true.
00:20:37.000 And the more I was learning about how much the left lies, the more incensed I was becoming.
00:20:42.000 And, you know, I'd go to hang out in, you know, gay bars in my neighborhood or whatever.
00:20:46.000 And I'd always sort of say the same things.
00:20:48.000 I'd have a sort of contrarian perspective as to what most people thought.
00:20:52.000 But until Donald Trump came along, it was mostly fine.
00:20:55.000 People just kind of shrugged it off.
00:20:56.000 And then suddenly I'd be saying the same things I'd always said.
00:20:59.000 And suddenly I was like a racist or a Nazi or what are you, one of these Trump supporters?
00:21:03.000 I'm like, well, I don't know.
00:21:04.000 Maybe I am.
00:21:05.000 Is that what they believe?
00:21:06.000 Because if so, I might be one of them.
00:21:08.000 So it was a little shocking.
00:21:09.000 You know, I always sort of thought of the gay community as, and now I use the word community loosely, but as more of that kind of civil libertarian, a kind of libertine attitude that people just want to be left alone by not only their neighbors, but by the government to just live their lives as they see fit, as long as you're not harming anyone else.
00:21:30.000 And that has definitely took a radical turn towards authoritarianism, as we see everywhere. 1.00
00:21:36.000 And the gay community and their bloated nonprofits like HRC and GLAD and all these groups have really, they've only gone way off the rails with this transgender stuff and now bringing kids into it, which is something I would never thought I would ever see in my lifetime. 1.00
00:21:56.000 They've gone completely off the rails. 1.00
00:21:57.000 And now most of them, they advocate for censorship.
00:22:01.000 They advocate for really destructive policies.
00:22:04.000 And they're in favor of things that just, I always thought went completely against the idea of loving freedom and liberty and being left alone to live your life as you best see fit.
00:22:15.000 Now it's about, it's not about equal rights anymore.
00:22:18.000 It's about revenge. 0.59
00:22:19.000 It's about instilling a really gross and destructive idea about gender and sexuality onto American society, taking out the family, the nuclear family. 0.97
00:22:30.000 And now, of course, indoctrinating children and bringing them to drag shows and things like this. 0.98
00:22:36.000 Not to mention all the disgusting stuff with medically transitioning children and whatnot that is, not only, and most gay people, I would say the majority of gay men, especially, think like I do on these issues. 0.99
00:22:48.000 They're just too frightened to speak up about it. 1.00
00:22:51.000 And they're still too turned off to vote Republican.
00:22:55.000 So they just kind of keep quiet and they're these sort of zombie Democrat voters.
00:22:59.000 But it's a very small, nasty, unhinged minority of activists that have really turned the face of this community into something nasty and a weapon for the political left.
00:23:12.000 Yeah, it's not live and let live.
00:23:13.000 It's live and let them rule. 1.00
00:23:15.000 The book I want to talk about is, so you've been sent to diversity trading, smiling through the DEI apocalypse. 0.90
00:23:22.000 But I do want to ask an interesting question, though, about what you just said before we get into the book, which is there is this now mass movement around getting this stuff into our schools.
00:23:33.000 And we've seen an uptick where now one in four, one in five of young people are identifying as either trans, bisexual, gay, or lesbian.
00:23:42.000 Now, you as a gay man, do you think that there might actually be a social phenomenon to part of this that's more than just somebody's sexuality?
00:23:50.000 I know that's a very controversial thing to say, but do you think there's a fad aspect to this? 0.74
00:23:55.000 Oh, absolutely, 100%. 0.62
00:23:57.000 And you know that if you look at the rates of children who identify as LGBT, it's not LGBT, it's LGBTQ plus.
00:24:03.000 The rates are vastly higher in California, for example, than in Ohio.
00:24:07.000 So that sort of tells you there is something political going on here.
00:24:10.000 Another thing is, is that the Q, and I write about the Q in the book, when I explain what these terms mean, no one's quite sure what the Q means in LGBTQ plus.
00:24:19.000 They mostly say it's queer.
00:24:21.000 Well, queer isn't a sexuality.
00:24:23.000 It's a fashion statement. 0.95
00:24:24.000 It means a la mode.
00:24:25.000 It means, you know, I'm, you know, I support this community or something.
00:24:30.000 So when you see these reports, GLAD is one of these organizations that pushes out these reports saying that like one in five Gen Z identifies as LGBTQ plus.
00:24:39.000 They're namely talking about the Q, they're talking about fashion statements.
00:24:42.000 They're talking about trans trenders, young people on social media who are, you know, confused or want to be cool or want to say, you know, they're part of this community when it's not, it doesn't mean, you know, kids who are same-sex attracted or who have legit gender dysphoria.
00:24:59.000 It's fashion.
00:24:59.000 But of course, it works well to pat out the size of the community and to claim that there's some mass movement here.
00:25:05.000 Of course, the truly destructive part of this is, and we see this all the time, is a lot of kids are getting roped into gender ideology and doctors and school staff and some parents are encouraging this.
00:25:19.000 And it's leading to really destructive, permanently damaging things, not just medically to their bodies, but psychologically.
00:25:28.000 And I think that in the coming years, we're going to see a huge backlash against this for kids who are roped into this ideology, brought into it on social media, thinking that it would solve all their problems, when in fact it only caused more problems.
00:25:42.000 And we're going to see a big backlash against this.
00:25:44.000 And it's going to be really heartbreaking to hear all these stories.
00:25:46.000 A lot of them are already coming out.
00:25:48.000 It's just terrible.
00:25:49.000 All right.
00:25:49.000 Tell us about your book.
00:25:51.000 All right.
00:25:52.000 Well, it's called, as you said, so you've been sent to diversity training.
00:25:55.000 And, you know, I was just, I thought, you know, DEI training in the workplace is something that almost everyone has had to go through.
00:26:01.000 And it's a topic that is so ripe for ridicule and mockery, you know, because I like to have fun.
00:26:07.000 I believe that we need to laugh at a lot of these destructive, horrible things in our society.
00:26:12.000 And that no one had written about it.
00:26:14.000 And I thought, you know, this is something that everyone can relate to.
00:26:16.000 I want to learn about this.
00:26:17.000 And namely, I want to talk to just everyday people about their experiences.
00:26:21.000 And so, you know, I talked to guys on oil rigs.
00:26:24.000 I have a whole chapter about policing, talked to NYPD officers, guys in the military, talked to secretaries, people in IT departments, retail floor workers, just about what did you have to go through in DEI training?
00:26:34.000 What is happening here?
00:26:36.000 And, you know, I had got some stories that were, you know, really hilarious and some that were infuriating and kind of learned about this ideology that is really destructive and nasty and does not belong in the workplace whatsoever.
00:26:49.000 And yet it's a staple in most workplaces, especially in large corporations.
00:26:53.000 So, you know, I looked into the history of it.
00:26:55.000 I heard firsthand accounts and then had a lot of fun just sort of describing what this is really about and what you're in store for.
00:27:03.000 So I hope people enjoy reading it.
00:27:05.000 Where did this come from?
00:27:06.000 When did it start?
00:27:07.000 When did the DEI phenomenon start in corporate America?
00:27:11.000 So it's interesting.
00:27:12.000 It started, the way we think of it now started in the civil rights era in the U.S. military.
00:27:16.000 And the U.S. military, initially it was, they were worried about strife between the races within the ranks of the military.
00:27:24.000 They implemented programs between white and black enlistees and to sort of try to quell what they thought were going to be racial tensions between the two groups.
00:27:33.000 The way they approached it initially was to have what they called these encounter groups, where they put a white military member and a black one together in a room and basically have them say everything they didn't like about the other person's race.
00:27:47.000 And they immediately realized this was causing more strife and more racial animosity.
00:27:51.000 So they cut it out immediately.
00:27:52.000 But academia had been working on this for a while.
00:27:55.000 And in the 1970s, they began developing these diversity and inclusion programs.
00:28:00.000 And in the 70s, you know, women and feminism got involved with it. 0.99
00:28:03.000 In the 80s and 90s, gay people became part of the curriculum.
00:28:07.000 And in the 2010s, it's trans and gender ideology.
00:28:10.000 So the military now, the military is one place where you really especially do not need DEI training.
00:28:17.000 It's mostly a place of great cohesion.
00:28:20.000 If you're in the foxhole, the person next to you's skin color does not exactly matter.
00:28:25.000 But the military's training, and I have a chapter about this in the book, has now, under Joe Biden, been relegated to what they're calling anti-extremism training.
00:28:32.000 And this happened after his inauguration.
00:28:35.000 There was a stand down across the entire Department of Defense to counter anti-extremism training, white supremacy within the military, which is where this kind of stuff takes a really ugly, horrible turn.
00:28:47.000 Are we missing something with the Paul Pelosi story?
00:28:52.000 Well, this is a fascinating story, isn't it?
00:28:54.000 I mean, we've got, so I'm most interested in, you know, now the initial reports said there was a third person in the house who opened the door for the police.
00:29:03.000 They said the night, the hammer-wielding hippie was in his underwear, and possibly Paul was too.
00:29:09.000 For some reason, no security cameras were triggered or security alarms went off.
00:29:14.000 We're not sure why there wasn't more security around the Pelosi residents at the time.
00:29:18.000 So things were sounding very suspicious.
00:29:20.000 Paul obviously has a history of substance abuse.
00:29:23.000 He was just arrested for a DUI. 0.57
00:29:25.000 So then the gay lover hypothesis came out.
00:29:28.000 And of course, mainstream media was freaking out.
00:29:32.000 You know, they're saying that because the guy had shouted, Where's Nancy?
00:29:35.000 According to one police officer, this was an assassination attempt on Nancy Pelosi.
00:29:39.000 Of course he could have been saying that because he wanted to blackmail the guy who knows?
00:29:42.000 Uh, now the media is saying that there were mistakes.
00:29:45.000 There was no third person in the house, the guy wasn't in his underwear uh, so the story is still unfolding, but what I find interesting is that when we had all these questions about this situation, the media was shutting it down immediately, when they had even less information than we did.
00:30:01.000 When the media had the same information about there being a third person and the guy being in his underwear, they swatted around any theories that this was anything but an assassination attempt on on Pelosi.
00:30:11.000 Uh, the guy seems like he's some kind of deranged, drugged out hippie from Berkeley uh, who maybe is like a fallen birdie bro or something.
00:30:20.000 Uh, still not entirely sure.
00:30:22.000 Um, but uh, it's interesting that that they're also trying to you know, of course, say that political violence only goes in one direction when, of course, we've had assassination attempts on Brett Kavanaugh and and others.
00:30:32.000 Um, I do recall though remember, the Andrew Gillum Saga, where he was found naked in a hotel room.
00:30:38.000 Yeah, I remember that first came out.
00:30:39.000 The media was saying that with his gay lover.
00:30:41.000 Yeah, I remember the media was saying that was fake too when it first came out.
00:30:44.000 So who knows?
00:30:44.000 Well, look, I mean, at the very least, it's a schizophrenic nudist that has no ideological reason to do this.
00:30:51.000 At the more speculative reading, there's something here because I think it smells.
00:30:55.000 Okay, Chadwick, I want to ask you about your book in particular.
00:30:58.000 One thing: what should people do when they're sent to diversity training?
00:31:01.000 Is it like the office, which by the way, I do not think Michael Scott in the office diversity day, I don't think that episode would be allowed on television today.
00:31:09.000 It was so incredibly politically incorrect.
00:31:11.000 What should you mock it subtly?
00:31:14.000 Should you just grin and bear it?
00:31:15.000 What are your thoughts?
00:31:17.000 Yeah, you're right about that.
00:31:18.000 That episode, which was a great episode.
00:31:20.000 You know, you're gonna, it's challenging your diversities are if you try to do that at your job, nine times out of ten, you can start the clock on your departure from the company.
00:31:29.000 You know, I wrote about a guy named Casey Peterson at the Sandia National Labs in New Mexico, government-funded nuclear research laboratory.
00:31:37.000 He really blew the lid off a lot of his stuff by exposing what his lab, his certainly funded lab, was doing for diversity training.
00:31:44.000 And, you know, he tried to put together his own syllabus.
00:31:47.000 He tried to say, well, let me just host a counter class to what they're teaching.
00:31:51.000 And he experienced nothing but red tape the entire time.
00:31:55.000 And eventually he wasn't allowed to do it.
00:31:57.000 So it's difficult, you know, but I think that what you're going to find is that more people agree that this is all nonsense than don't.
00:32:05.000 You know, there's a silent majority of people who know that this stuff is all guff, but they're too terrified to speak up.
00:32:11.000 So it really depends on your work environment, you know, if it's worth it really to try to be a whistleblower.
00:32:18.000 The last question I have, we only have about a minute remaining.
00:32:20.000 How sustainable do you think this is?
00:32:22.000 Do you think there will be a period of time when this thing just falls apart under the weight of its own insanity?
00:32:29.000 I'm an optimist, so I have to believe that that is the case and that that will happen. 0.99
00:32:33.000 I hope it is because, you know, we see these, you know, look at look at the former Soviet Union.
00:32:38.000 You have something called, you know, when the Berlin Wall fell down, you had all these people realizing that their neighbors were thinking the exact same things that they were at the exact same time.
00:32:47.000 And just the day before, they believed that all their neighbors were party apparatchiks who believed everything that was in the Soviet newspaper.
00:32:53.000 When it turned out that wasn't really the case.
00:32:54.000 So there is a silence majority.
00:32:55.000 We use that term a lot, I believe.
00:32:57.000 And there has to be a reckoning here and a crescendo.
00:33:00.000 And I think it's just going to take people standing up and realizing that none of this stuff makes sense.
00:33:05.000 And it's childlike and invantalizing to try to tell adults that the golden rule doesn't apply to them, which is simply just treat others as you'd like to be treated.
00:33:13.000 That's well said.
00:33:14.000 Chadwick Moore, check out his book.
00:33:15.000 So you've been sent the diversity training.
00:33:17.000 I bet it's a fun, fun read.
00:33:18.000 Thanks, Chadwick.
00:33:19.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:33:20.000 My pleasure.
00:33:21.000 Let me just say one thing.
00:33:21.000 I want to say this to Chadwick on air.
00:33:23.000 I wish there were more people in the gay community that spoke against the grooming and the targeting of our children. 0.91
00:33:29.000 It's very important.
00:33:30.000 I know there's that gays against groomers group, but it's we need more.
00:33:35.000 I'm very, very, I think that's very important.
00:33:38.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:33:40.000 Email me your thoughts as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:33:43.000 Thank you so much for listening.
00:33:44.000 God bless.
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