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00:02:57.000So, but it's not a huge mystery, but it deserves a question.
00:03:01.000And I think the question is far more important than what our lawmakers are talking about, which is why are you guys, Generation ZM, Millennial, not quite Generation ZM, right on the cusp, I'm right on the line.
00:03:11.000Why is this the most depressed, suicidal, anxious, and quite honestly, depressed generation in history?
00:03:18.000That's a serious question that needs to be talked about.
00:03:21.000It's a lot more important than having 145 days of our calendar dedicated to LGBTQ.
00:03:27.000Do you know that there's 145 days to our calendar dedicated to LGBTQ?
00:03:32.000Maybe we should ask the question and pause and say, okay, what is it exactly that is driving this generation to kill themselves more than any other generation that makes them so depressed and so anxious?
00:03:44.000Because, you know, the answer a couple years ago is, I'm depressed because Trump is president.
00:03:48.000It's like, okay, well, he's, well, maybe he will be again, hopefully, in November.
00:04:23.000And it's a generation that starts, many of you are raised in this society now where the most insane ideas are prevalent, where you're told to care about things that actually don't always concretely come into contact with your everyday life.
00:04:38.000And it's driven by abstractions more than reality.
00:04:58.000I have my own personal opinion as to why this is happening, which is that when you start to remove the things that make you human and you start to act as if an entire generation can just seek pleasure with no cost, you're going to have some very, very big problems.
00:05:14.000We can see this manifested through hookup culture, with the pornography addiction that is infecting our country.
00:05:20.000We see this with the drug overdose epidemic, where so many young people, so many students right now, especially at the universities that we're touring, are asking the question, what is the point of life?
00:05:31.000What is the meaning behind all of this?
00:05:33.000And that is exactly what you get when you remove God from society.
00:05:36.000I'm not here to be overly preachy, but when you remove God, what are you going to replace it with?
00:05:41.000And that's a fundamental question I think that we need to wrestle with.
00:05:44.000And post-COVID, which, by the way, we never should have locked down our country.
00:05:47.000That was one of the worst mistakes in American history.
00:05:50.000We never should have locked down our country.
00:05:52.000And Anthony Fauci should go to prison for what he did to your generation.
00:06:20.000And we certainly did not have to mandate a faulty, questionable, questionable, gene-altering mRNA shot to a younger generation that was not at risk from dying for COVID.
00:06:32.000And what it did is it continued this line of thinking that you must be obsessed with death all the time, and yet you never actually want to live.
00:06:46.000And it's really a sad and tragic thing because when I encounter so many people, they come to me say, Charlie, you know, how do I get happy again?
00:06:54.000I say, honestly, the most joyful thing you could do in your life is accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.
00:06:57.000It's the most important thing you can do.
00:07:01.000But even more than that, you need to have ultimate purpose.
00:07:06.000You need to try to find a rootedness to why you are here.
00:07:11.000And if it's just like, hey, I want to earn as much money as possible, or I'm just going to kind of do whatever drug I want, that's not going to end well.
00:07:19.000And this does have political ramifications because I believe one of the reasons why Gen Z, especially Gen Z men, are the most conservative men have been in the last 50 years.
00:07:33.000Gen Z young men are the most conservative they've been in 50 years is because young men in particular, and hopefully young ladies will start to, you know, get on this line of thinking, hopefully.
00:07:49.000And is that they want a country to grow up in, is that they see the consequences of mass migration, of the political correct regime of this trans nonsense that has been infecting our country.
00:08:02.000And they see the consequences of borrowing a trillion dollars every 100 years.
00:08:06.000And quite honestly, we're not going to sit idly by and just allow it to happen.
00:08:10.000We're going to do everything with our agency and everything in our power to try to make sure that we have a country that is at least half as good as the one that our parents were able to enjoy in the 1970s and 1980s.
00:08:22.000Because right now we're inheriting a country that is not the same.
00:08:26.000In four years ago, if you wanted to buy a home in this country, it took an average income of $59,000 a year to buy a home.
00:08:38.000Now, unless you're going to earn six figures out of the gate, which you might, but that'll definitely put you in the outlier.
00:08:44.000Being able to own property is a core and fundamental American promise.
00:08:48.000And they want you to be a renter for the rest of your life.
00:08:52.000Because if you are a renter, you are easier to control.
00:08:55.000Owning property, which is embedded in the American dream, makes you a threat to the DC regime.
00:09:00.000Being able to own acreage in this beautiful state of Kansas or wherever you're from and not just be a renter in anonymous urban society allows you to have stake in the country.
00:09:26.000You can get really mad at landlords, or you can get really mad at the politicians that are borrowing trillions of dollars every single year and making your dollar worth less every single year.
00:09:35.000I mean, landlords, yeah, they kind of get a bad rap, but how are landlords supposed to make money when everything else goes up?
00:09:41.000You might say, oh, landlords are making too much money.
00:09:53.000But honestly, D.C. politicians deserve a lot more blame than your local landlord for why your rent is going up and your inability to buy a home.
00:10:01.000And if you disagree, you can ask in question and answer.
00:10:04.000So, but also understand that this is intentional.
00:10:09.000And this is where I say the controversial part.
00:10:13.000There are very smart, corrupt people in D.C. in both political parties the last couple of decades, which I would say with one obvious exception, that is making the American promise out of grasp for many of you.
00:10:26.000We no longer have a U.S. southern border.
00:10:29.000It's a little bit down now, but it was at its height.
00:10:31.00015,000 people a day coming across the southern border every single day.
00:10:35.000We are, as I mentioned, we are deteriorating our currency and printing over, we are printing trillions of dollars every single year, a trillion dollars we are borrowing every 100 days.
00:10:45.000And I believe this is fundamentally intentional.
00:10:48.000You might say, well, Charlie, who could be so sinister and so evil to do such a thing?
00:10:52.000Somebody who doesn't love the country.
00:10:54.000And you can come to your own motivations, but understand, stop trying to defend Washington, D.C. politicians that have never done right by you.
00:11:04.000They steal and plunder from your future because they've never actually cared about your well-being.
00:11:09.000And what is happening in this country, and I have no idea if it's going to manifest politically in November or beyond, but I've never seen crowds like this on college campus.
00:12:35.000And there are a lot of problems, and you should be very angry at your politicians.
00:12:39.000However, being bitter about the United States of America as a country is a lot different than being dissatisfied with the current state of the government.
00:12:48.000Those are two completely different things.
00:12:50.000We want to restore the promise of this country.
00:12:53.000And the promise is super simple, that regardless of skin color or background, if you work hard and play by the rules, you save money, get married, have kids, don't break the law, you're going to have a better life year over year, absent some sort of crazy thing happening to you.
00:13:23.000And it can change, but it has to change from the bottom up, which is why you being here and this presence on this campus is so remarkable.
00:13:31.000And the core promise is really, or the demand is really simple, is that we want the country back that we had, I don't know, like four or five years ago, where we had a border, where Easter was just Easter, not like Weird Trans Day and also Easter, where we were able to have conversations without having to be worried about being fired about some sort of stupid diversity, equity, inclusion mandate that might come down from on top.
00:13:56.000These sort of things are fundamental to a society.
00:13:59.000And what happens if we don't correct them?
00:14:01.000I think you know what happens if we don't correct them.
00:14:04.000You can either check out and just go home and smoke weed and play video games and like check out a society and be cynical.
00:14:10.000But you being here tonight is you telling the regime that you're not going to be cynical, that you are going to make noise, that you are going to be disagreeable, that you're not going to take it any longer, and that you want a country, a country that you grew up reading about, but you have not had a chance to live in yet.
00:14:30.000It's the American spirit that, quite honestly, the people that came to Kansas and settled here 150 years ago, it wasn't easy before we had shelter like we do and heating and electricity, widespread electricity and air conditioning.
00:14:44.000And the original Nebraskan and Kansans and Oklahomans that came here, they had a grittiness to them where they said, you know, we want to build a new country basically out of nothing.
00:14:53.000And many of you here tonight are asking for a similar thing, which is we want to rebuild a country based on these fundamental promises, a core belief that our best days can be ahead and that we deserve better out of our politicians that have been taking advantage of us for us for far too long.
00:15:47.000With that, let's get to some question and answer.
00:15:50.000Yes, ma'am, what is the first question?
00:15:51.000You have a lot of experience doing these things, and I just wanted to know, what was the most wholesome experience you've had with a lot of people who came up here and disagreed with you, and then it turned around into something that they did agree with you with?
00:16:04.000Yeah, I mean, we have a lot of, I've been, what, I visited over 150 campuses in the last 11 years.
00:16:10.000I've been doing this for quite a time, a long time.
00:16:12.000Yeah, I mean, we've had some experiences where I think some minds were changed and that people had to think differently about stuff.
00:16:18.000I think more than anything else, and we'll see if this happens tonight, I prefer clarity over agreement.
00:16:24.000I just want to know exactly where we disagree.
00:16:26.000What I don't appreciate is when people come up and either misrepresent my position or try to make broad generalities about conservatives or try to say things that aren't true.
00:16:37.000And so, but yeah, look, dialogue and speech is what makes life interesting.
00:16:42.000And, you know, credit to KU for having us and for being accommodating and for hosting it.
00:16:48.000And, you know, not every college campus is like that that we go to.
00:16:52.000In fact, most university campuses that I visit to visit are quite hostile and not very open to differing ideas.
00:16:58.000And finally, I would say that less of these events and more of the outdoor change my mind events, we've had some really beautiful exchanges where I get to share the gospel.
00:17:06.000And in fact, there was a young man, I think he was a man.
00:17:09.000I don't want to misgender him, but he was definitely a man.
00:17:12.000Long hair, and he was wearing some sort of Satanist thing.
00:17:14.000I don't know if you guys saw this video this last weekend.
00:17:16.000It was seen over 12 million times just on Instagram alone.
00:17:19.000And he came up and said, you know, are you a Christian?
00:17:23.000And yeah, I mean, we just had a chance to share the gospel and talk about how, you know, Jesus Christ is there as a free eternal gift for all of us if you want to accept it.
00:18:12.000There's numerous religions throughout time that have used mushrooms for yeah, the Aztecs used to sacrifice children, so that wouldn't be a good argument.
00:19:03.000But yes, to answer your question, cruelty or indulgence in something that is widespread harm to society in the name of a fringe religion is not under the clause of the religious tradition of the American tradition of religious liberty.
00:19:17.000But yes, can you name an example of a religion that people would know of that embraces the use of psychedelic mushrooms for religious experience?
00:19:27.000Some Native American cultures use peyote.
00:19:36.000Look, just there's just like mutilating children in the name of the modern religion of transgenderism is wrong.
00:19:43.000I don't believe that we should legalize drugs that could be very, very harmful that were the street drugs of the 60s and 70s that have incredible implications to realign the human brain and potentially lead to overdose just in the name of a fringe religion.
00:20:02.000Hey, Charlie, I wanted to ask you about insider trading within Congress.
00:20:06.000I know this is like a pretty big bipartisan issue, and I don't think, I think we both can agree that Congress won't check themselves in terms of that sort of front.
00:20:15.000So I want to know your opinion on what you think are real solutions to that.
00:20:20.000Yeah, I mean, I don't think that if you're a member of Congress, you should be able to actively trade stocks, period.
00:20:24.000You should put them into a blindly managed stock account.
00:20:28.000And I think we could agree with a lot of left-wing Democrats on this.
00:20:33.000I mean, Pelosi does deserve, I think, to go to jail for insider trading.
00:20:36.000I mean, this thing is completely out of control.
00:20:39.000I mean, I don't even know if you're even on the left.
00:20:44.000You should look at her portfolio performance.
00:20:46.000I mean, she beats the Dow industrial average by like 40%.
00:20:49.000I mean, she makes Warren Buffett look like, you know, an 18-year-old investor that's just randomly picking stocks.
00:20:56.000Oh, wow, Nancy Pelosi randomly put $100 million into electric vehicle stocks right before the $1 trillion infrastructure bill was passed that just so happens to subsidize electric vehicles for the next 10 years.
00:21:25.000They passed the Stock Act like 12 years ago.
00:21:27.000It's really a mockery and it's a joke.
00:21:29.000We should make it far stricter where if you are an active member of Congress, you are not allowed to trade stocks.
00:21:36.000It has to be in a blindly managed trust account.
00:21:38.000You can't have any connection or any communication.
00:21:41.000And I wonder if their votes would actually change.
00:21:44.000Like, what if their votes would actually change if you might not be able to go make a 30% boost on your stock portfolio because you want to try to get electric vehicles because you think Tesla's going to go up because you want your husband's stock portfolio to do well?
00:22:54.000My question is, I think we share a lot of the same values, civil liberties, sound economic policy.
00:23:02.000I feel like the biggest infraction on our civil liberties, at least in my lifetime, happened under the Trump administration, which is why I can't support Donald Trump.
00:23:14.000I'm looking at Kennedy right now because I don't think he's going to trump our civil liberties.
00:23:20.000I think he has a pretty nuanced stance on economics.
00:23:24.000So why do you continue to support Trump?
00:23:26.000I feel like you know that our civil, you talk about Dr. Fauci's, our civil liberties were trampled on under his watch.
00:23:33.000Do you mean just COVID, or do you mean, are there other things in particular?
00:25:52.000First of all, he said on my podcast, he said that he would put Supreme Court justices in the tradition of the most liberal, the Warren tradition of the 1960s.
00:26:07.000Yes, the United States Supreme Court is a pretty major hang-up.
00:26:09.000In addition to the fact that Donald Trump showed that he can secure the border, end the wars, revitalize the economy, and bring back the American spirit.
00:26:18.000RFK has been a radical environmentalist his entire life.
00:26:22.000He is pro-abortion, and he would appoint liberal Democrats.
00:26:29.000RFK famously said that we should imprison oil and gas executives for their crimes on climate change.
00:26:37.000RFK has been good on one issue, COVID and the vaccine.
00:26:40.000He's been terrible on every other issue.
00:26:43.000And the second issue, he has a liberal left-wing running mate by the name of Nicole Shanahan that is a feminazi from California that supports Gascon as the LA district attorney.
00:27:41.000But this is, if you contrast what he was doing with COVID from the moment Joe Biden took over, vaccine mandates, continuation of lockdowns, federal mask mandates that happened way too long until a federal judge struck them down.
00:27:55.000And so I encourage you just to think about it, look at the facts ahead of you.
00:28:33.000I don't know if you're not holding it.
00:28:35.000But seeing all the good things that Trump did for our country, like, that's why he's my goat, and there's probably a lot of people in his goat.
00:28:41.000Like, everything from what he did to the economy, the border security, and just seeing all that crumble with Biden in office.
00:28:49.000On a scale of 1 to 10, how f ⁇ ed are we as a country with Biden for another four years?
00:28:53.000Well, okay, let's not swear, but a scale of 1 to 10, 11 if Biden wins again.
00:29:09.000How do you feel about people focusing on the conversation of racism whenever there are like there's over a million people trafficked today in America?
00:29:20.000Yeah, so we have a huge issue of slavery in this country.
00:29:25.000It's happening on the southern border.
00:29:26.000We get lectured all the time, I think, at your point about racism, but they won't ever talk about the fact that the greatest slave trade that's occurring in modern American history is happening on the southern border, where people are being sold for money.
00:29:40.000And the cartels sell young women for either sex slavery or indentured servitude when they come across the border.
00:29:46.000Make no mistake, we are being invaded every single day.
00:29:51.000It's a threat to the American way of life.
00:29:53.000And if you think that what America did with slavery was wrong, which you should, slavery was evil.
00:29:59.000By the way, we're here in Lawrence, Kansas, where the history of abolitionists goes very deep in this city, in this town, in this state.
00:30:08.000I think I encourage you to open your eyes and understand the slave trade is alive and well in this country, and it's happening on the southern border every single day.
00:30:29.000My question was about the GOP and the future for really the Trump presidency and afterwards.
00:30:35.000It seems like the GOP and kind of the conservative movement, but more of the GOP, they're so short-sighted, it seems like they're just focusing on just getting Trump in office.
00:30:47.000But it seems like they're just focusing on those four years, and there isn't a lot of foresight as to what happens into 2028, retaking the house, things like that.
00:30:56.000So what do you think the GOP needs to focus on?
00:30:58.000What do we as kind of the grassroots need to focus on to kind of ensure not only just the victory for 2024, but for the next coming elections?
00:31:08.000Yeah, I just want to, I love the question.
00:31:10.000First of all, you can't fault the short-sightedness.
00:31:12.000Because if you have gushing headwound, you solve that before the long, you know, if you have a gushing headwound and cancer, you're going to fix the gushing headwound and then you get the cancer, right?
00:31:25.000One will kill you in like three months, right?
00:31:27.000So, the longer-term problem is that we need to try to advocate for a conservative movement that is more focused about what's happening on our southern border than what's happening in Ukraine.
00:31:37.000We need to try to advocate for the interests of this generation, more specifically to fulfill the American promise, make it easier for all of you to get married, have kids, own property.
00:31:48.000And then we need to be unafraid to play offense.
00:31:49.000This is one of the things I'm trying to do in Nebraska right now.
00:31:52.000Nebraska has this silly system where they appropriate their presidential electors based on congressional district, which is totally antiquated.
00:32:00.000And it basically just gives Joe Biden a free electoral vote.
00:32:03.000So I sent out a tweet yesterday about this.
00:32:13.000That sort of attitude, I hope, you know, gets fixed and gets changed.
00:32:16.000And I want a conservative movement that plays to win.
00:32:19.000I want a conservative movement that represents the working class of this country.
00:32:23.000And I want a conservative movement that listens to its voters and that isn't always invested in these foreign abstractions and these adventurous wars abroad, but cares about the collapsing country here domestically.
00:32:34.000And finally, I want a conservative movement that's clear that we defend the unborn, we want to see church attendance go up, we want to see bigger families, that we want a restoration of the U.S. Constitution and that is unafraid to bring the fight to the left.
00:32:48.000This is something we do at Turning Point USA, not just collapse and surrender and sue for peace.
00:32:53.000And I want a conservative movement that hasn't decided that they've lost before the fight has even started.
00:32:59.000I feel as if there is this attitude of surrender and losing.
00:33:02.000And I want to bring us back to that to an attitude where we're not cocky, but we believe every fight we can get into, we can win, and that we're not just always trying to collapse because the left calls us a bad name.
00:33:13.000And finally, I want a conservative movement that does not care if you're called transphobic or racist, whatever.
00:33:47.000So I'm a little spiritually lost right now.
00:33:50.000I guess, you know, on a personal note, I'm just wondering what type of people you think should go to college and if you think going to college is worth it.
00:33:58.000Because right now, you know, when I walk into this room for class, I just really don't see the point currently.
00:34:03.000Yeah, so first of all, I love your heart, and thank you for expressing that.
00:35:19.000There are 11 million well-paying job openings in this country right now that do not require a college degree, and they require 90 days to six months of technical training, but you might have to work with your hands.
00:35:33.000There are 11 million muscular class jobs in this country that Gen Z could get.
00:35:38.000How many of you would work for Walmart?
00:35:40.000Many people be like, I don't know if I'd work for Walmart.
00:35:42.000Do you know that a manager of a Walmart supercenter earns $400,000 a year and it does not require a college degree?
00:36:02.000I don't want to overly generalize, but I will say that if you're going and you're getting a degree in North African lesbian poetry, it's probably a waste of time.
00:36:20.000So if Biden drops out in 2024 because he's too old or stupid, who do you think the Democratic Roney will be?
00:36:29.000Yeah, I think they, I mean, they have a tough situation because I think they have a vice president that's even less likable than their current president, Kamala Harris.
00:37:56.000And I was wondering, outside of raising her up in a Christian home and also planning on homeschooling her, what is your best advice for expectant mothers and fathers?
00:38:10.000So again, I'm hardly a veteran at this.
00:38:12.000I'm 20 months into it, but I'll tell you the things that I wish I would have known or somebody would have told me.
00:38:32.000We have a father crisis in this country, and dads need to be around, and they need to drop other hobbies and extracurriculars, in my opinion, and spend more time with their children and more time with the precious gifts from the Lord.
00:38:43.000The second thing is more wonky, which is whatever decision you make will be the right decision medically for your child, but never allow yourself to be blackmailed or bullied by a pediatrician or a doctor if you feel there is something that doesn't seem right.
00:38:58.000And I'll let you fill in the gap over whatever that is.
00:39:01.000There are situations where pediatricians will say they'll emotionally blackmail a mother into doing something that they don't want to do because they'll say your kid is going to die if you don't get whatever XYZ.
00:39:14.000So never make a consequential, potentially permanent life decision for your child from fear.
00:39:46.000And you just call his Nebraska resident.
00:39:48.000You just tell them, please pass the winner-take-all act, and the governor will sign it, which will then get President Trump an extra electoral vote this far out from the election.
00:39:56.000So our team will talk to you, and then finally, you can apply, and we'd love to have you be a good fit.
00:40:00.000We're hiring constantly, Turning Point Action, Turning Point USA.
00:40:04.000But here's the thing: your most important job is the one you told me about, which is to be a mom.
00:40:18.000While you still have some control, what are you going to do about it?
00:40:20.000Your first step is going to mypatriotsupply.com.
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00:41:08.000I guess I'm a disagreement guy, but I just want to make sure at the onset that I let you know that probably like 90% of what you say I'd agree with.
00:41:16.000So I would align on conserving values.
00:41:17.000And I'm going to say everyone that might have a difference of opinion is allowed a platform.
00:42:22.000So I was just going to maybe mention a quick little blurb of what he said and then maybe ask how you would kind of respond to that, if that's okay.
00:42:29.000And so in the article, he said, So we think that policies that endorse baby killing, sex switching, and freedom limiting and socialistic overreach are viewed as deadly, and they are, indeed.
00:42:43.000He said, however, I remain baffled that so many Christians, of which of course many in this room are, consider the sins of unrepentant sexual immorality.
00:42:51.000Of course, we're talking about a specific someone here.
00:42:53.000Unrepentant boastfulness, unrepentant vulgarity, unrepentant factiousness, and the like to not only be toxic to our nation.
00:43:01.000In fact, I think it is a drastic mistake to think that the deadly influences of a leader come not only through his policies, but also through his, and not only, excuse me, the deadly influences of a leader come only through his policies and not also through his person.
00:43:18.000And so all of us are going to be faced with a decision here in seven months or so when we go to the polls in November.
00:43:23.000And so my question for you is, you know, I'm talking specifically for those who claim to be born-again, sincere, authentic Christians.
00:43:31.000And I'm asking you, how can you illegitimize the faith of a sincere, Bible-believing, prayerful, submitted to the Word of God Christian who simply determines that a man who engages in blatant and unrepentant sin should not lead our country?
00:44:18.000If you're a born-again Christian, by the fruit, you will know them.
00:44:22.000And if the fruit is that I will cast my ballot for a party that had Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsom and Eric Adams and Joe Biden spend more wording and video time on Easter Sunday talking about trans rights than the resurrection of our Lord and Savior, that supports the massacring of children via trans and also abortion, that you cannot be a Christian and vote for that.
00:44:48.000Now, John Piper did not say he was voting Democrat.
00:44:51.000So he doesn't even fall into what I'm talking about.
00:45:05.000But I think Donald Trump is this unrepentant sinner.
00:45:08.000And I would say, Mr. Piper, what do you have to do with the story of Samson?
00:45:11.000Should he be in the hall of faith in Hebrews?
00:45:15.000According to our own scriptures, it says that Samson is in the righteous hall of faith.
00:45:21.000If you know the story about Samson, he's sort of similar to Trump, the hair.
00:45:27.000God came to Samson while he was in the bed with a prostitute.
00:45:31.000Samson took the jaw of a donkey and killed 400 Philistines.
00:45:35.000He wasn't exactly your perfect mold, but God used him for a purpose.
00:45:40.000And I would ask John Piper, can God use broken, sinful vessels for his purpose?
00:45:44.000He used King Cyrus to bring God's chosen people after the first exile for the reconstruction of the second temple.
00:45:51.000And the question for John Piper, he says, I remain baffled.
00:45:53.000Well, you should remain baffled, Mr. Piper, because the people that are Trump supporters that are Christians, they know Donald Trump's faults.
00:46:00.000They could recite them back to you, just like they know their own faults.
00:46:12.000Would you keep on fighting if you're facing 700 years in federal prison time and your family's business empire is at risk of being taken from you?
00:46:19.000Would you keep on running for office and keep on fighting if everything you've done is in front of you?
00:46:50.000And so the question for John Piper is, you're watching way too much mainstream media.
00:46:55.000You're being infected way too much about a man that I don't think you even know.
00:46:58.000But can you acknowledge that Donald Trump delivered three Supreme Court justices and gave us the overturn of Roe versus Wade?
00:47:06.000If we voted the way that John Piper wanted us, or let's just say embrace that belief system in 2016, we would have had Jezebel, I mean Hillary Clinton, as president, and we never would have repealed Roe versus Wade.
00:47:19.000The embassy would not have been moved to Jerusalem.
00:47:21.000We wouldn't have had peace in the Middle East.
00:47:24.000I think we proved that the first Trump presidency, flawed man, excellent policy, fulfilling his promises.
00:47:31.000I don't think any Trump supporter is necessarily in disagreement with what I would have said.
00:47:37.000I'm baffled by John Piper, an alleged humble, fervent, dedicated Bible teacher that can be indifferent to a million abortions a year, 100,000 kids on hormone blockers, a wide open border, the destruction of Western society, race hatred, defunding the police, rising crime, the downfall of Minneapolis' hometown, and him preaching about Donald Trump's personality.
00:48:02.000It's on you, John Piper, to explain yourself, not us.
00:48:13.000Again, John Piper would obviously stand against those things categorically.
00:48:17.000He's not voting categorically and unequivocally.
00:48:18.000But if you don't vote against it, and John Piper wouldn't be the only one who would take this sort of stance.
00:48:23.000I mean, if you're going to oppose John Piper as a notable conservative person, Andy Stanley, Russell Moore, John Piper, Rick Warren, Timothy Keller, who's now passed away, if they're... David Platt, we could continue to get away from that.
00:48:32.000Yeah, but why won't they vote to end abortion?
00:48:35.000If you will not vote to end abortion, stop telling me you're a Christian all the time.
00:48:39.000Start acting and voting like you are a Christian.
00:48:42.000I think they're just saying that we can't have unconditional support of an individual because of his party.
00:48:48.000We have unconditional support of biblical principles that a flawed vessel fought for and achieved.
00:48:54.000So Russell Moore, David French, all these guys that go around and talk about how terrible the Christian right is, how can they reconcile?
00:49:02.000Because they're going to have to go in front of a supreme ruler of the world, Jesus Christ, and say, why were you preaching in the New York Times and writing these long meandering op-eds about how you didn't like Donald Trump's tone when you were given a binary choice?
00:49:57.000So it's not even a choice, is what I'm getting at.
00:50:00.000If you believe in the biblical principles, if you believe in what the Bible says, to love life, to love the unborn, to care about those that can't defend themselves, it's a binary choice.
00:50:12.000And it's not about defending the unrepentant alleged behavior of an individual.
00:50:17.000It's did that individual advance the priorities that we care about?
00:50:27.000Do we really think that's the end, though?
00:50:28.000I mean, to think, I think it's a biblical principle, Charlie, and hopefully you would agree that it's not only policies that a leader advocates for that impact the nation.
00:51:05.000Do you think Jesus of Nazareth, first century, who you and I both follow, do you think he would agree with your statement that nothing born again Christianity?
00:51:11.000I think Jesus of Nazareth would have handled Trump like he did in John 8.
00:51:14.000He would have said, do not cast a stone against Donald Trump.
00:51:17.000He would have said, Trump, sin no more.
00:51:19.000You know what he would have said to Charlie Kirk?
00:51:20.000He would have said, don't throw a stone at Charlie Kirk.
00:52:10.000Okay, so I'm sure you've heard this a thousand times.
00:52:13.000I just believe that in certain situations where someone is about to give birth, it might be better to have that abortion just because it might impact the child's life in a poor way, and it may also impact the parent's life.
00:53:01.000But I want to know how you can advocate to people that aren't Christian and are stuck up in this hookup culture and believe that it is a use of birth control.
00:53:09.000Well, I'll just advocate to you because you're asking me how to win people over.
00:54:02.000Okay, eugenics is the justification for murder for a broader project or purpose, population control or to get rid of the infirmed or what they would consider to be the racially unclean.
00:54:34.000Dom, your entire being, how tall you are, the color of your hair, your eye color, your organ structure, whether you have food allergies, all of it.
00:54:42.000Your entire human genome at conception was put right there.
00:55:34.000No, now you can go to liberals and say, hey, when does life begin?
00:55:38.000And you can say, hey, why is it okay to murder a being when it's at 15 weeks where it has a heartbeat, can feel pain, brain waves, eyes formed, but somehow you're objecting to a baby that's two years old and you can't murder that baby.
00:56:47.000And I also just feel like she seems like she'd be fun to hang out with.
00:56:53.000She seems to me more kind of like the librarian that gets super mad at you because you're making too much noise while you're hanging out with your friends.
00:57:03.000I mean, there is one good thing that Kamala Harris is good at, but I'm not going to get into that because I'll keep it PG-rated here.
00:57:32.000First, I want to applaud you and thank you for giving a good speech, good traditional conservative values.
00:57:37.000I really like what you've been doing with your rhetoric these past couple years, going more traditional and conservative and trying to fit in with us rather than boomerk talking points.
00:57:53.000While we condemn Hamas and the free Palestine crowd, why as conservatives, should we continue to financially support Israel financially with our money?
00:58:01.000Me and all, like they have been endlessly bombing the Middle East and been very open about wanting to wipe out Gaza from existence.
00:58:08.000And many ancient Christian churches have also been destroyed because of the Israel bombing.
00:58:12.000And now Candace Owens, Alex Jones, and other conservative figures are now calling out Israel.
00:58:16.000And now you even got called an anti-Semite in October because you called out Israel for the Intel failure, the government, and then you threatened to stop supporting him at some point.
00:58:25.000I just want to ask, why should we or should we not continue supporting Israel financially and with our military?
00:58:37.000He's asking, should we keep on supporting Israel?
00:58:39.000And if so, what about all the bad things that Israel has done?
00:58:43.000First of all, I just want to say Candace Owens is awesome, and she's great, and she's going to continue to go on tour with us, and she's great.
00:58:50.000So I want to make sure we're morally clear, though, because there has been a rewriting of history.
00:59:13.000I'm not an apologist for the Israeli military.
00:59:15.000As you mentioned, I tweeted against the IDF because they did bomb a church in October, and I was called all these different terrible things.
00:59:30.000Yeah, that doesn't surprise me because the question usually comes from Catholics, and that makes sense.
00:59:34.000Because there's a difference in theology, right?
00:59:37.000In the Catholic Church, and I have a lot of respect for Catholics, there is a belief in replacement theology that the church replaced Israel.
00:59:44.000So every time that you hear Israel in the scriptures, you just say it's the Christian church, not actual Israel.
00:59:49.000I don't hold to that view, but we could agree to disagree.
00:59:52.000I don't want to get too deep into that.
00:59:53.000By the way, some of my closest friends are serious Catholics.
01:00:01.000But here's my take, and I've said it before: is that I'm very biased because my visits to Israel changed my life.
01:00:07.000My visits to Israel brought my faith alive where I saw where Christ our Lord walked on water, where I saw where Christ our Lord delivered the Sermon on the Mount.
01:00:17.000Where I saw where Christ our Lord was born, where I saw Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, Sarah, Rebekah, and Leah where they were laid to rest in Hebron, where all of these stories that we are told are mythologies are in your face in Israel, where it makes the Bible become real.
01:00:35.000Where I saw where Christ our Lord was betrayed, where I saw where Christ our Lord rose from the dead after three days.
01:00:42.000So my support for Israel is a little biased and personal, where access to my holy sites changed my life.
01:00:49.000And I believe it's a moral good for Western society for us to be able to visit our holy sites uninterrupted to see the miracles that are in the Bible that created the narrative story that led to Christ's resurrection.
01:02:03.000But I guess other than the foreign people, since obviously some of them are citizens from America, like, what do we do about this from an American standpoint?
01:02:11.000And how do we move our culture forward knowing that people, like, it's hard to put into words that people support Islamic terrorism here?
01:02:21.000Yes, well, I mean, you shouldn't support any terrorism, right?
01:02:23.000Whether it's Islamic or general, right?
01:02:25.000Or, you know, you shouldn't support, for example, the transgender individual that went and shot up the school, you know, against Christians.
01:02:31.000Like, you shouldn't support any form of terrorism.
01:02:35.000Coming to this country needs to be a privilege, not a right.
01:02:37.000If you come to this country on a student visa and you burn the American flag and you say death to Israel, you go back to your country of origin.
01:02:53.000But if there's a pattern of behavior that if you're organizing a group, like at Harvard, right, and you have signs and posters that say from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, and you have constant waving a flag saying that Jewish people are committing genocide and that America's a terrible country and that you're burning the American flag, you're a visitor here and you should cease to be a visitor.
01:03:12.000We have a right to determine who gets to come to America, and we need to exercise that right.
01:03:17.000Finally, I will say this, which is if left unchecked, you get some very serious ramifications.
01:03:23.000Look at Elon Omar, who is a member of Congress now from Minneapolis, previously from Somalia, who has some very, very nasty things to say about this country.
01:03:31.000So we need to reaffirm that we should have control over our borders, control over people coming into this country.
01:03:37.000One of the most important things that we could do, and hopefully President Trump fixes it.
01:03:49.000My question is, you talked about how we should hire based on merit and not on diversity, which I agree with.
01:03:55.000However, I feel like there's people who don't have the skills or the resource to acquire the merit that you talked about.
01:04:03.000So if we're saying no to diversity, how can we help those people, as Christians, I feel like it's our duty to help those people acquire the merit that you talked about?
01:04:14.000And so what we find actually is that diversity, equity, inclusion creates more prejudice and racism where it otherwise would not exist.
01:04:23.000So getting rid of it will get rid of this idea that people are only a certain place because of some sort of hiring quota or some sort of other accelerated way forward.
01:04:34.000Look, you're always going to have inequities.
01:04:35.000The best answer I have, let's just talk about black America.
01:04:37.000The best answer I have is that we need more dads in black households, period.
01:04:41.00075% of black households do not have a father around.
01:04:51.000Barack Obama said that the amount of lack of fathers in the home, and let me say it differently.
01:04:55.000One in four households, black households in this country, have a stable father around.
01:05:00.000And the kid is more likely to commit crimes, go to prison, less likely to learn to read as his counterparts.
01:05:06.000The other part is that we need to crush the public sector teacher unions that have been terrorizing our public schools in this country, that have been lowering standards and not teaching kids adequate skill preparation, the ability to read and write correctly, all these different sorts of things.
01:05:34.000And sometimes those disparate outcomes have nothing to do with race.
01:05:38.000Sometimes it has to do with where you're raised.
01:05:40.000Sometimes it has to do with cultural impact or differences.
01:05:43.000And unfortunately, we have been led to believe, and Thomas Sowell writes this in Discrimination and Disparities, that you cannot blame racism for every single thing, every difference between blacks and whites in this country.
01:05:54.000There are other contributing factors as well.
01:05:58.000And here's what we saw in the 1950s when America was far more racist and we had far, let's just say, crueler Jim Crow laws, is black Americans were actually outpacing the earning potential of white Americans in Chicago and New York City, is that the DEI affirmative action regime with the great society has actually hurt black America.
01:06:19.000It has, as Clarence Thomas said, created the low bigot, the soft bigotry of low expectations.
01:06:25.000And so the best way to unlock the potential of all Americans is start treating people as individuals, not just members of a certain tribe that deserve preferential treatment based on the melanin content in their skin.
01:06:42.000You said, okay, which I agree with, but Would you say there's a benefit to diversity, like to diversity hiring in the short term or in the long term?
01:07:03.000No, because of all they drop out at higher rates because they're largely not qualified to be at those schools.
01:07:07.000Secondly, for every spot that you put a diversity kid in affirmative action, is a spot you take from another qualified white or Asian student.
01:07:15.000So, the answer is for more education to be available in those states.
01:07:21.000You cannot structurally solve this if one out of four black households don't have a dad around.
01:07:27.000And so, that needs to happen within the black community.
01:07:29.000And until that happens, until we cease subsidizing single mothers in this country, that cycle will almost never stop.
01:07:36.000But the solution is not to say we're going to try to fix inequities that allegedly exist by making it that qualified white and Asian students aren't able to get into Harvard, which has been the status quo for the last 20 or 30 years.
01:08:57.000My question for you, Mr. Kirk, sir, is there is this slur that's been used against evangelicals, Catholics, Messianic Jews, even this slur, uh, Christian nationalist.
01:09:12.000And is this a term that we should embrace, and how would you define it?
01:09:18.000Um, well, first, they're trying to call us Nazis, okay?
01:09:22.000That's what they're saying when they say that, which is hilarious in some ways, because who are the ones that are trying to lock up political opponents and stifle speech and use political power to try to stop opposition?
01:09:33.000But we need to, instead, I don't love the term because it plays too much into their hands.
01:09:39.000I think we should just call ourselves constitutionalists.
01:09:41.000We constitutionalists who love Jesus and love the country and want a restoration of the Declaration and the promise of the Constitution.
01:09:50.000That is their new kind of shtick right now: Christian nationalism, Christian nationalism.
01:09:54.000I wouldn't call it a slur because I am a Christian and I am a nationalist, but the phrase itself is playing way too much into the narrative that I think they want us to play right now.
01:10:27.000And what's your opinion on toxic masculinity?
01:10:29.000Well, I mean, you mean that toxic masculinity that stormed Normandy Beach and won World War II?
01:10:34.000Or the toxic masculinity that founded the country?
01:10:38.000Or the toxic masculinity of primarily men that go and fight our wars, fight our battles.
01:10:46.000I mean, it's a preposterous statement.
01:10:48.000Instead, we need to lift up men, no longer say that they need to be boys, but they need to turn into dangerous gentlemen and understand what exactly that means, which is to protect the innocent, know your power, use it prudently, and go on an adventure and stop being a boy in your parents' home.
01:11:26.000And so, which is when your friends are getting, you know, super drunk, don't.
01:11:30.000And they're going to ask questions why, and they're going to see that you don't have the hangover, and you're going to be happier, and you're going to be 15 pounds lighter.
01:11:36.000And, you know, you're not going to have to all of a sudden be like, I'm so depressed.
01:12:26.000And I think it's incumbent on men to try to turn the corner on that and say, no, we want to have a revitalization of piety where we're going to save ourselves for a partner for marriage.
01:12:35.000And if you haven't done that, then try to recommit yourself to that.
01:12:38.000And you're not going to try to participate in this ridiculously damaging and poisoned culture of trying to sleep with every single individual you possibly can.
01:12:47.000There's nothing masculine or impressive about that, honestly.
01:12:49.000That just makes you an uncontrolled animal, actually.
01:13:32.000Yeah, it's 100% related to the border.
01:13:34.000I mean, I think like 90% of all the fentanyl comes illegally across the southern border, manufactured in China, given to the cartels, come across the border.
01:13:40.000The way we fix it is we close the southern border, period.
01:14:09.000First of all, you shouldn't do drugs at all, okay?
01:14:11.000But every day I hear of another story of a kid that dies of fentanyl overdose, and he thought he was just taking a party drug, and he dies.
01:14:18.000And the Chinese Communist Party and the cartels and Joe Biden are to blame.
01:14:21.000But I put the most blame on Joe Biden, who keeps our border completely wide open, which I believe is an act of treason against this country.
01:15:15.0002020 was a lot more shady and also a lot closer.
01:15:18.000But the question is, do I think Trump made a mistake?
01:15:20.000The only thing I wish that Trump would have done differently is that I wish that, and we all should have realized that the feds were setting us up on January 6th.
01:15:34.000And so, you know, we must understand fighting for election integrity is super important.
01:15:39.000The only other thing I wish Donald Trump would have done is on January 5th, I wish he would have gone down to Georgia and campaigned harder for the two Senate runoffs.
01:15:45.000That's something, because we lost those two Senate seats on January 5th in Georgia.
01:15:50.000But I remain a huge supporter of his, and we have to understand Trump used every legal angle he had as president when he was president, and he failed in the courts, and he did all these different things.
01:16:01.000And he left office despite all the clamoring.
01:16:03.000He left office, went down to Mar-a-Lago, and he's on a mission to win it back.
01:16:20.000I think a lot of people here might struggle with that.
01:16:22.000What I'm curious is, somebody with so little education beyond high school and, you know, just experience in the field, how are you able to so confidently just kind of word vomit, right?
01:16:39.000You said a, pretty much every question you've answered has been no answer.
01:16:45.000You've just kind of said what conservatives want to hear.
01:16:48.000So really all of your work is not a debate.
01:17:29.000Yes, 11 million jobs are open for blue-collar work, according to Mike Rowe, and according to three independent studies, according to the Department of Labor.
01:17:35.000Name another stat I said that's wrong.
01:18:02.000No, but you come up here and say, oh, how did you with a high school education learn to spew BS, say one thing I said that was wrong, misleading, unfactual, not rooted in data?
01:18:35.00011 million job openings, according to the Bureau of Label Statistics, that require muscular labor and require just a six-month technical training degree.
01:19:49.000Well, I think you're a great public speaker, and you made me go from being a woke liberal to being conservative because you are factual.
01:20:02.000And my question is that I am a proud daughter of Mexican immigrants, but they are actually very conservative and very Christian, and they actually are big fans of you, and they say hi.
01:20:14.000And the reason why they're really conservative is because they don't want the values and morals that ruin their country ruin this country as well.
01:20:24.000So my question is that I often get called a traitor or stupid for betraying my people just by being a Republican.
01:21:06.000But they're the ones that say you're a race traitor.
01:21:09.000And I look at you as someone made in the image of God with your own thoughts, your own feelings, your own agency, someone that loves this country and wants to contribute, someone that thinks independently, and someone that is full of joy and gratitude.
01:21:23.000And then I look at the other side and they're like, why have you left to go to all those racists?
01:22:16.000I do online college because it's like my only option for actual good education.
01:22:21.000But anyways, so I was going to ask, you said on your podcast a few episodes ago that you were talking about the military and how to get more men and women into the military.
01:22:30.000But then you said that we shouldn't be putting women on the front lines.
01:22:34.000I kind of don't agree just because I have some family members that are in the military and then I have some female family members that are stronger than a lot of men that I know.
01:22:43.000And so they are in, they disagree, and I don't really know how to say no because I want to agree with you, but I also know that we should value women in the military, but I don't know about the front line.
01:22:53.000So I just want, you didn't really clarify in your podcast, so I was just asking here.
01:22:57.000First of all, it doesn't diminish current heroes that are females in the military that are on the front lines.
01:23:01.000It's a broad statement that I think is necessary to defend for this particular reason.
01:23:06.000Number one, let's just go at the first point you said.
01:23:08.000We need to make it harder for men to get in the military and raise the physical fitness criteria for men to serve in the military, not lower it.
01:23:15.000Number two is that I'm a stickler for traditional American values, and I think that women are deserving of protection and that they should not be on the front lines of the most harsh military combat that could potentially live them amputated or dead.
01:23:27.000I know that's like an old traditional view, but I think that it's in the most in the most historic way that I don't think that we should forget or we should betray is that men are the one that go ones that go to war in the most ferocious frontline fighting.
01:23:41.000There are other reasons for this though.
01:23:43.000And again, there are outliers, which is that men do have more bone density, higher testosterone rates.
01:23:49.000Men are just better fit for some of the, let's just say, toughness and grittiness at war.
01:23:54.000Now, I will say, though, some women are better at war than men.
01:24:52.000When our military was at our greatest, it was the least politically correct, most vicious fighting force on the planet that defeated the Nazis and defeated the Japanese.
01:25:02.000I think we should try to get back to that.
01:25:13.000A lot of conservatives really hate the FBI, but I just wanted to ask if you think that it is truly the FBI or that it's mainly the DOJ, because I know firsthand that the DOJ tells the FBI what to do.
01:25:23.000Not saying the FBI doesn't say no, which they should a lot of times, but they normally fill out what the DOJ tells them what to do.
01:25:31.000Yeah, so I think Christopher Ray is coming here tomorrow.
01:25:44.000I think the FBI needs to focus more on child sex traffickers than on Catholics going to Latin mass, okay?
01:25:51.000I think the FBI needs to focus a lot more on people that are coming across our southern border on the terrorist watch list than on social media posts.
01:26:00.000The FBI just did a house visit of a woman that had a social media post that was critical of Joe Biden the other day.
01:26:06.000The boots are different than the suits of the FBI, but I will say this.
01:26:10.000If you are actively raiding a home of a pro-life leader in a no-knock raid and you're saying, I'm just following orders, at some point you should just resign.
01:26:22.000I know you've worked hard for it, but I personally would not be able to go knock down the door of a pastor that is being accused of praying outside of a pro-life clinic, and his eight kids are around terrified in fear, and the FBI comes in, guns ablazing.
01:27:12.000But I am a full-on Christian, and most of the things that you've said today, I vouch for that.
01:27:18.000But concerning my island, concerning Puerto Rico's decision in Trump's legacy or what Trump should do or should not do and benefit for the island, my question is, knowing the heavy impact we already are having here in mainland and in Puerto Rico, like this is a global thing.
01:27:41.000It's a full-on economic stuff going on.
01:27:44.000Why Trump would be a good presidential impact and what promised facts would benefit Puerto Rico, like actual facts, not just only throwing paper towels to us when we're in a full-on destructive force.
01:28:01.000And because most things happen after an effect, I don't want to see paper towels being thrown.
01:28:10.000That was a little taken out of context, just seeing that.
01:28:16.000But then Trump repeatedly opposed disaster funding for Puerto Rico while disputing and failing to acknowledge that Maria's death toll was not even at knowledge.
01:29:27.000There's a lot of Puerto Ricans that are here on the mainland because Puerto Rico is part of America.
01:29:30.000Number one thing is that if you want that U.S. dollar to be strong and not weak, elect Donald Trump as your president because that dollar has weakened dramatically the last three and a half years under Joe Biden.
01:30:14.000And I actually vouch for our generation saying, like, hey, why can't we progress on buying a house, getting married, having a good on family?
01:30:26.000And this all starts with the fact that I go to study, but then our studies aren't being actually being fruitful.
01:31:09.000I'll get my bachelor's in accounting in December.
01:31:12.000Because of the industry I picked and my husband, he's also an air traffic controller, having a work-life balance is going to be very tricky.
01:31:19.000And we also are trying to go, we're going to try to have kids after I'm done with school.
01:31:24.000How would you give advice to somebody who wants to have kids but maybe not be able to do homeschooling?
01:32:24.000I have knocked over 33,000 doors in the past six years, canvassing for local elections, local candidates.
01:32:32.000Because all throughout Kansas, I want to ask you, what level of responsibility do the local elected officials, school boards, city councils, state reps, and state senators have for the problems in this country?
01:32:44.000And to a part of that, what can we, the people in this room that don't have a national platform like you do, fight like you do for these issues, for these conservative candidates?