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00:01:27.000And there's a lot of questions of how President Trump should approach this and kind of what tone and what issues.
00:01:34.000So I just want to first get your take on the stakes.
00:01:40.000Is this the most important debate we've seen as far as it could break you?
00:01:43.000We say that with every debate, but this one feels exceptionally important.
00:01:46.000I'm going to disappoint you and say no, because I don't think if either candidate does badly, the stakes are not you have to drop out of the race, which that is what happened in the summer.
00:01:56.000that Joe Biden going in, his campaign apparently thought an early debate would be a good idea.
00:02:02.000And I bet some Democrats thought an early debate would be a good idea for other reasons.
00:02:07.000And it was so bad, it destroyed his campaign and they literally had to slot in Kamala Harris.
00:02:12.000I don't think the stakes can be that high.
00:02:14.000I would say it's higher than the stakes in 2020, I believe.
00:02:19.000It's maybe comparable to his first debate against Hillary Clinton, maybe in 2016, where
00:02:24.000he really had to prove, I can go toe to toe with a Democrat candidate, make the case for
00:02:47.000I'm already enjoying the reporting we're seeing.
00:02:50.000MSNBC says they were citing sources that say she's being coached to remain calm if Donald Trump starts insulting her, which is a very It's kind of a weak thing to be reporting.
00:03:04.000She's being coached to not flip out, not melt down, not go off the handle.
00:03:09.000And we know that's a concern with Kamala.
00:03:13.000That's why she needed her emotional support, Tim Walz, at her first interview.
00:03:34.000Everything her campaign was doing was screaming, we are nervous about sticking this candidate in an unstructured situation where anything can happen because she might not know how to respond to that.
00:03:46.000So my guess is that the prep for Kamala is they're going to try to stuff as many pre-planned statements, pre-planned remarks into her.
00:03:57.000How do you short circuit that programming?
00:04:00.000I think this might go against what a lot of people think, but a lot of people have talked about how he can get under her skin with insults or something.
00:05:40.000He can say we have Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment buildings in Aurora, and he can say we have locals in Springfield, Ohio, where they've put 20,000 migrants who are saying they're beheading ducks in the local duck pond.
00:05:54.000Imagine Trump saying, he's like, I'm standing up for- They're taking ducks out of the pond.
00:05:58.000I'm standing up for the people who want- But they say that's debunked, Blake.
00:06:01.000They say it's all right-wing propaganda.
00:06:03.000I think it'd actually be pretty workable if he goes in, maybe be careful and just say, you've got all these people in this town who are saying this.
00:06:11.000They're saying that they're taking the ducks and they're killing the ducks.
00:06:13.000Are they calling all the people of Springfield, Ohio liars?
00:06:17.000Are they saying this black guy who went to the city council meeting and said they're cutting ducks and geese's head off?
00:06:35.000I think it's kind of odd that a guy like me has to come out from doing what I do on a daily basis to have fun, because I see what's going on in these streets.
00:06:42.000And I see you guys just sitting up there in them comfy chairs and suits.
00:06:46.000And I'm getting out here every day, and I'm broadcasting this, and you guys are just sitting up there in suits or something.
00:06:51.000I really challenge you guys to get out here and do something.
00:06:54.000These Haitians are running into trash cans, they're running into buildings, they're running They flipping cars in the middle of the street.
00:07:03.000They're in the park, grabbing up ducks by they neck and cutting they head off and walking off with them.
00:07:09.000And eating them, like... We gotta do something, bro.
00:07:13.000It's kids out here getting hurt, like... Only reason I even went on here and said something about it is because somebody told me they walking from the school and a Haitian almost ran into them.
00:07:21.000So, I mean, that's an all-you-can-eat buffet.
00:07:25.000And so you could just—Daryl's like, okay, is that guy lying?
00:07:28.000Are we not supposed to believe ordinary citizens who go up and testify about this?
00:07:33.000Are you only allowed to say things happen if you have a pass from the New York Times or from CNN?
00:07:39.000I think you have to be careful how you finesse it, because you don't want it to just make it sound like he's saying really unhinged stuff, but I think he's capable of doing that.
00:07:51.000And I think if you're putting Kamala on the spot where she has to, off the cuff, try to defend her record and her administration's record, She's going to have a tough time.
00:08:03.000She's going to try to say, you know, she's definitely going to try to fear monger a lot about Trump.
00:08:51.000And he just says, you guys have been a disaster, and you can say you guys have inflation, and all you can do is throwback and fearmonger about me when I think the American people know better.
00:09:04.000This is a race between two people who have been president.
00:09:06.000Me, because I was literally president, and you, because your president is a vegetable.
00:09:11.000So they say that one-third of Springfield, Ohio is now Haitian.
00:09:15.000I think a quarter is probably closer, but I mean, it's still insane.
00:09:19.000It was about 59,000 people, I think, in the 2020 census, and 15,000 to 20,000 Haitian migrants have been settled there in four years!
00:09:31.000And the people of Springfield aren't putting up with it, but it's happening via force and decree, correct?
00:09:38.000I don't know the exact pattern, I assume it's probably a mixture of... It feels like a federal government relocation program.
00:09:43.000Yeah, I haven't looked at it specifically.
00:09:45.000I assume there's some, you know, there might be charities involved, there might be some sort of resettlement scheme, and then after a while this just gets momentum, that the Haitians who arrive want to go where there are other Haitians, and so they keep going to the same spot.
00:09:58.000You see this with a lot of towns across the U.S., where you'll get local communities that are all from the same spot.
00:10:04.000Some of them are really funny, and you know, we've had Armenians in Glendale, California, for example.
00:12:27.000And we have, like, we have accounts from people, like, if someone committed murder, I'm pretty sure eyewitness testimony would be considered evidence.
00:12:44.000Ohio is facing a significant housing crisis as thousands of Haitian migrants have arrived on their doorstep because of the federal government.
00:12:52.000The Haitian migrant population in the city has skyrocketed to an estimated 50 to 20,000.
00:12:58.000That is about one third of the city's entire population.
00:13:03.000So look, Haitians in Chile have long been eating cats.
00:13:06.000Remember, Haiti is known for cannibalism and voodoo and really weird stuff.
00:13:23.000I think, was it Conan O'Brien who made the shirt, Haiti is already great?
00:13:27.000Well, at least 5% of Haiti, just in the last four years, strongly disagreed with that sentiment.
00:13:33.000I would encourage anyone who says Haiti is great, just, Andrew has visited Haiti, and people I have, they say it's unlike anywhere else in the world.
00:13:39.000It is dark, it is satanic, it is filled with bad, bad things.
00:15:42.000I think it would be hard for her to do because the when you can always get away with that is when they say, like, I had an abortion, but that was what was best for the kids I already had or the kids I would have in the future.
00:15:56.000I know, but the response could be if I think the right response is President Trump can say, look, I know a lot of other people that got abortions and it's now left to the states, and so that's your story.
00:16:08.000Like, totally downplay it and just kind of dismiss it.
00:16:11.000Or, you know, I know a lot of people who've got it, a lot of them regret it, some of them not so much.
00:16:18.000You can imagine him saying it that way.
00:16:46.000I feel like she would end up screwing this up.
00:16:48.000She would say, like, she grew up and her favorite word was democracy and then he's destroying democracy.
00:16:52.000Here's the thing about debates, though, is that there's a very high, there's a low cost to lying because by the time the fact checkers get it out, it's very, you know what I'm saying?
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00:18:20.000I don't want to go too far in this, but what if Trump says, I wish you would have kept
00:19:31.000Cause I want to, I want to fix all the bad things you're doing by running for president again.
00:19:36.000And you're the guys who, because I was so successful in my first term, you didn't want to run against me, so you came up with these four separate charges.
00:20:14.000With what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother, just prior to the birth of the baby.
00:20:25.000Now, you can say that that's okay, and Hillary can say that that's okay, but it's not okay with me.
00:20:33.000Because based on what she's saying and based on where she's going and where she's been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month.
00:20:46.000Your thoughts on that tone when it comes to the abortion topic?
00:20:49.000Because she's going to go all in on abortion, but I think anytime there is a topic that doesn't favor President Trump, let's say it's January 6 or whatever, do 10 seconds on it, then pivot to immigration or the economy.
00:21:02.000And I think he handled it great in his first debate with Biden, where he just, he doesn't concede, he's not scared of it.
00:21:09.000And what would really hit a lot of Republicans, Mitt Romney, Bush before, they would be very scared of the issue.
00:21:16.000And instead, Trump has that counter-puncher energy.
00:21:20.000He can just say, you know, like, I got these great Supreme Court justices, I got this great ruling, we got rid of this bad, you know, we made it a choice of the states, and it's the Democrats who are the big radicals on that.
00:21:32.000And I don't know, it's not gonna make abortion in this cycle a winner for Republicans.
00:21:48.000I think you say, you keep on bringing this up, and by the way, I think if abortion comes up, say, here's my stance, but every commercial you're running is about this topic, because you can't run on the economy immigration.
00:21:58.000I think even people that are pro-abortion, Blake, can sympathize with the fact that there are other issues at play in this election than just abortion.
00:22:06.000Yeah, he could even say, for those who are worried about it, that's on the ballot in a bunch of states.
00:22:11.000It's on the ballot in Florida, it's on the ballot in Arizona.
00:22:22.000You guys are trying to make it the number one issue in this presidential race, when what I did is I took it out of the presidential race.
00:22:29.000You don't have to make your election just on this.
00:22:31.000So instead, we can vote based on what you did on the border, a disaster, what you did on inflation, a disaster, what you did in Afghanistan, a disaster, so on.
00:23:19.000I think what happened that was bad was we had all this hype.
00:23:23.000Joe Biden was really old that he was senile and obviously we know he was well deep into decline at that point but he was still good enough to stand on a debate stage.
00:23:35.000And they kind of drank too much of the Kool-Aid where they thought you can just attack him really aggressively.
00:25:39.000That's why they might be more likely to try what you suggested with Kamala is I think they were looking to that as their big opportunity to frame the race, and now the debates are kind of all they got.
00:25:50.000And right now the narrative is shifting that Brat Summer is over, Kama Lamentum is waning, her convention bounce wasn't that big.
00:28:01.000Just know that if you're doing pretty well and you get her feeling a little shaky, I think opportunity will generate itself.
00:28:08.000And if this doesn't come out looking like a win, if there's any narrative at all that Kamala didn't dominate it, she'll be neurotic about this.
00:28:15.000And it doesn't necessarily have to be that big.
00:28:16.000We also know from the press, they've reported on this, Kamala, she watches Fox News.
00:28:21.000She watches Fox and Friends, watches The Five, and she would get upset as Vice President when they would say bad things about her and say she's not doing great.
00:28:31.000So we know the room is there for Kamala to notice people not being impressed with her, thinking she flubbed this thing, and it gets inside of her head.
00:28:40.000And I think we have such a pattern here, it'll probably keep happening.
00:28:45.000Yeah, and so how does he strike the balance between being too intense and yet kind of being a pushover?
00:28:53.000What moment comes to your memory where he was at his best?
00:28:56.000Let me play a couple pieces of tape here.
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00:32:02.000I think he, once again, they thought this would be a big advantage because they were annoyed, like the left asked for this because they were annoyed at Trump interrupting so much.
00:33:28.000You have two minutes why you're right on the border.
00:33:30.000And then I imagine Trump is just able to give a way better answer about that on the border, on the economy, on foreign policy, on a whole bunch of stuff.
00:33:38.000And Kamala's going to be left trying to call him a felon and say, I love abortion.
00:33:43.000Yeah, and that was my tweet I said right now.
00:33:45.000Trump needs to be ready for a Kamala bombshell today.
00:33:47.000Is she going to say she had an abortion, that she was raped, maybe a family member?
00:33:50.000Her best and only memorable moment in 2019 was that little girl was me when she personalized the debate.
00:34:41.000Even with the Biden one, there was like a half-hearted attempt where everyone was like, well, Biden was confused because Trump was lying so much.