The Charlie Kirk Show - December 04, 2025


How Can We Whitepill a Blackpilled Gen Z?


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In this special bonus episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk is joined by producer Blake Neff and producer Tyler Bowyer to discuss the results of Tuesday night's mid-term elections and the implications for the future of the country.

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
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00:01:09.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:12.000 I'm Blake Neffer, producer, and I'm joined here right now by Tyler Bowyer.
00:01:18.000 It feels weird.
00:01:19.000 You're usually next to me when we're doing thought crime.
00:01:21.000 I'm always here.
00:01:22.000 You're always there.
00:01:22.000 It's a little different just to have you across the desk like that.
00:01:26.000 Yeah, no, it's great to see you eye to eye, Blake, because I'm usually side-eyeing you.
00:01:30.000 Yeah, I'm always like this, and then I spend half of thought crime just with my head rotated like that on the camera.
00:01:37.000 But no, we wanted to have you on.
00:01:39.000 So I have good news, everyone.
00:01:41.000 We had to warn everyone about this.
00:01:43.000 We said the Tennessee seventh race is coming up.
00:01:46.000 Don't ignore it because Democrats definitely aren't ignoring it.
00:01:50.000 And happily, yesterday, Matt Van Epps defeated Democrat Afton Bain, the woman who said she hated Nashville, hated bachelorette parties, hated country music, hated basically everything that made Nashville noteworthy.
00:02:03.000 Yet she, a few polls, I think, showed her winning even, but did not come to pass.
00:02:09.000 We were worried it would be close.
00:02:10.000 In the end, it came out to Republicans winning by nine, but it was even a little bit better than that when the first early votes came in.
00:02:18.000 The New York Times estimator said, oh, Republicans will probably win by two.
00:02:22.000 And it just got stronger and stronger throughout the night.
00:02:25.000 So there was very good Election Day turnout by Republicans, which shows the word got out.
00:02:30.000 Don't ignore this.
00:02:31.000 Don't sleep on it.
00:02:32.000 Get there.
00:02:33.000 Now, here comes the butt.
00:02:36.000 This is a district we won by 22 points.
00:02:39.000 Trump won it by 22 points last November.
00:02:42.000 The House margin was 21 points.
00:02:44.000 It went to nine.
00:02:45.000 So that is a serious swing towards the Democrats.
00:02:48.000 Now, it's not catastlymic.
00:02:51.000 The Cook political report and these eggheads who estimate these things, they say it's organically about a Republican plus 10 district.
00:03:00.000 So winning it by nine, perfectly respectable result, but it is less.
00:03:05.000 And so I'll throw to you here, Tyler.
00:03:08.000 What should we make of this result overall, you think?
00:03:10.000 Well, there's a couple of things that we want to go through.
00:03:12.000 So first and foremost, turning point action is not in Tennessee.
00:03:16.000 So we did not have a hand in the middle.
00:03:18.000 We're focused on the key swing states.
00:03:19.000 We're focused on Charlie said this all the time.
00:03:21.000 We're focused on the key target states, the swing states.
00:03:24.000 However, the future of Tennessee is that it's going to be a swing state at some point.
00:03:28.000 Oh, don't say that.
00:03:29.000 Please don't say that.
00:03:30.000 People like kind of raz me on X when I say things like this, but Tennessee, Utah, Idaho, these are targets.
00:03:39.000 These are long term targets for the left, and this is because they want them to be like Colorado.
00:03:44.000 Yeah, large counties with large cities can topple a conservative state. 0.97
00:03:49.000 So in Tennessee, you have the Nashville metro area has grown abundantly, just similar to Phoenix and Arizona.
00:03:56.000 And this is what, you know, people couldn't even imagine, can even fathom a blue Arizona or purple Arizona.
00:04:03.000 And we have seen that when Democrats, when we have a huge swing in population numbers, lots of outsiders move in, that it starts to change the dynamics of the state.
00:04:14.000 And then when the Democrats spend tens of millions of dollars in these races, whether it's for Congress, Senate, president, governor, then you can lose.
00:04:24.000 And we've seen a lot of red states, Kansas, Missouri, to name a few, where we've had Democrats win governorships.
00:04:33.000 We've had statewide elections.
00:04:35.000 So nothing is safe.
00:04:37.000 You cannot look at any of these districts and say, even in a deep red plus 22, R plus 10 district in this case, the R plus 10 district, a plus 22 Trump.
00:04:48.000 There's a difference because there's a lot of crossover votes in red states where Democrats voted for Trump this last election cycle, where Democrats stayed home because they just didn't believe in Kamala Harris.
00:05:00.000 That's the first step.
00:05:02.000 So there's a little bit of a misnomer here, which is that this is a plus 22 district.
00:05:06.000 This is not a plus 22 district, like you mentioned.
00:05:08.000 It's a district Trump won.
00:05:09.000 This is 22.
00:05:10.000 Yeah, this is a district that Trump won by 22.
00:05:13.000 Some of that being half of the increase being that Democrats stayed home, half of the increase being that Democrats crossed over in a red state.
00:05:21.000 Now, with that being said, this district was vacated by a Freedom Caucus member.
00:05:27.000 Representative Green took a private sector job.
00:05:31.000 I have to say this because it applies to everyone.
00:05:34.000 We were just saying this.
00:05:34.000 I was just saying this about Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:05:37.000 It is not helpful when we have such slim numbers in the majority to have people retiring midstream here.
00:05:46.000 Not even midstream.
00:05:47.000 I think he announces retirement in July.
00:05:49.000 Six months.
00:05:51.000 You are given a public trust when you run for an office.
00:05:55.000 You run to serve for the full term, and it's not difficult.
00:05:57.000 It's not a difficult term.
00:05:58.000 It's two years in Congress.
00:06:00.000 If you can't do that, you shouldn't be running.
00:06:02.000 And so, again, I'm not attacking either of the Greens in this case.
00:06:07.000 I'm not saying that things don't come up or people don't have illnesses or they don't have, you know, there's lots of different reasons that people choose and some of those are not public.
00:06:16.000 However, it's not helpful.
00:06:18.000 What is fair to say is it's not helpful for people to quit midstream right now and with with so few Republicans controlling Congress.
00:06:27.000 Now, with that being said, that's why the special election became such a focal point for the Democrats because if they spend more, they're going to turn out more.
00:06:36.000 And in special elections, it's all about, it's low turnout, right?
00:06:40.000 Enthusiasm.
00:06:41.000 It's all about enthusiasm.
00:06:42.000 It's all about how many people can you actually get to show up to vote.
00:06:46.000 It's not persuading people.
00:06:48.000 This isn't a persuadable district.
00:06:49.000 This is a plus 10 minimum, maximum, plus 22 that Trump won by district.
00:06:55.000 You should win this district if everybody shows up.
00:06:58.000 That's not the case in special elections.
00:07:00.000 Yeah, I'm looking at its most recent.
00:07:01.000 It had a 322,000 votes in the last normal election.
00:07:06.000 And then in this one, 179,000.
00:07:08.000 So you're talking about...
00:07:09.000 Barely half.
00:07:10.000 Yeah.
00:07:10.000 They got...
00:07:11.000 We got 97,000 votes to win, whereas the Democrat lost, got 122,000 votes to lose by a ton last time.
00:07:18.000 Yeah, I think the projection was that it was going to be in the low 40s was turnout numbers when all said and done.
00:07:23.000 I don't even know if they hit that in this case for the turnout, but 40, I mean, imagine that.
00:07:29.000 Again, 40% turnout is really low for a congressional, for a federal race.
00:07:34.000 So you have a situation here where this is, people are freaking out because the amount of money and energy that was being spent for the Democrats.
00:07:44.000 Which is good.
00:07:44.000 We got them to waste money on a thing.
00:07:46.000 They lost by nine.
00:07:47.000 But it still shows the reason you have to be aware.
00:07:50.000 Charlie would always talk about this is you have to be wary because Democrats, on average, they seem to care more.
00:07:57.000 They get whipped up.
00:07:59.000 Republicans are passionate about their families.
00:08:01.000 They're passionate about their faith.
00:08:02.000 Democrats are passionate about politics because for many, politics is their faith.
00:08:06.000 But this is really important to understand.
00:08:08.000 The people who sit at home, right?
00:08:14.000 Obviously, that sat at home, that Trump won by that extra, you know, 13 points or whatever the end result was, they didn't vote in this election either, right?
00:08:25.000 So obviously that's not going to help you in the differential.
00:08:28.000 The crossover vote didn't show up for this vote, right?
00:08:31.000 The people that, the Democrats that voted for Trump, didn't show up to vote for Matt Van Epps.
00:08:38.000 So we're definitely going to get into at least one dimension of that in the next segment because we're talking about the Gen Z sentiment is very fickle around the past year of politics.
00:08:50.000 There's two.
00:08:51.000 There's Gen Z, which is really important to talk about, and millennials.
00:08:55.000 It's a younger millennials that have been crossing over in bigger numbers.
00:09:00.000 And then you have the Freedom Caucus element.
00:09:03.000 Those two elements played a role in not maximizing what this victory could have been.
00:09:09.000 And that's a unique opportunity at this point forward for the White House who endorsed in this race, for conservatives in general, the Republican Party, what I call the, some people call the establishment, but I call the machine is everybody has to look at this and go, all right, how can we do better than this?
00:09:30.000 I'm glad we won.
00:09:31.000 I'm glad we won by about the amount that we control the district by by registration.
00:09:37.000 How do we do this vote?
00:09:38.000 45 seconds.
00:09:39.000 What's the message?
00:09:40.000 We'll get into the grassroots next segment.
00:09:42.000 What's the message for the donor class, the political class, the people who can make big decisive moves now to make sure we're in a stronger place a year from now?
00:09:51.000 Well, look, like I said kind of at the top of this, is that Tennessee is a future place that they want to topple.
00:09:58.000 So we have to fortify Tennessee strongly now.
00:10:01.000 And so you have to make the investment into the boots on the ground to make the difference.
00:10:05.000 And that's what we talked about every day with Charlie.
00:10:07.000 That's what we talked about.
00:10:08.000 It's a real thing.
00:10:09.000 You want to have just that dominant get-out-the-vote apparatus in a state before it's in crisis.
00:10:14.000 Like in Arizona, it was just, it was suboptimal.
00:10:17.000 And then we had to build it after the crisis arrived.
00:10:20.000 And we may have lost races due to that.
00:10:21.000 That's right.
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00:11:28.000 We're talking about the results in Tennessee's seventh district election, which did go well.
00:11:33.000 Good news, everyone.
00:11:33.000 You guys all listened to us, the ones in Tennessee.
00:11:36.000 You turned out, you voted.
00:11:37.000 We won by a lot more than the two points we were fretting about.
00:11:42.000 So we were talking about what donors should do, how we need to be building up the apparatus, building the machine in these red states before they are purple states, before they are blue states.
00:11:53.000 You make them impenetrable.
00:11:55.000 You should win by a lot because that's how you continue to win by a lot.
00:12:00.000 But Tyler, I said we wanted to get into the grassroots element this time.
00:12:04.000 So people are looking ahead to the, if you're a Trump voter, if you're enthusiastic, we get endless emails at freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:12:13.000 How can I get involved?
00:12:14.000 How can I help?
00:12:15.000 How can they get involved and help?
00:12:17.000 Because a lot of our turnout stuff, some of it ramps up in the months before an election.
00:12:21.000 But what could they be doing right now to make sure they're ready to roll?
00:12:25.000 They're ready to rock regardless of what state they're in.
00:12:27.000 Yeah, right now we're building the machine so that no matter what state you're in, you can help in the swing states, but then in special situations like this.
00:12:36.000 So, you know, this was a little bit of an interesting race because, you know, I think we're going to talk about it, the complexity that exists.
00:12:46.000 But tpaction.com slash get involved is how you can sign up so that we can message to you.
00:12:53.000 And again, we understand that not every people are busy.
00:12:56.000 You guys, everyone has jobs.
00:12:57.000 They have kids.
00:12:58.000 They have family.
00:12:58.000 They can't participate around the clock.
00:13:00.000 They can't participate even once a month in some cases.
00:13:04.000 But there's things that you can do to sign up, be prepared, and plan ahead for important elections.
00:13:11.000 So election dates, obviously we know now October of 2026 is going to be really important.
00:13:16.000 So if people can take off time and plan to take off time to travel to their nearest swing state to be helpful, that's going to be, we're going to have things for people to do.
00:13:25.000 But it's a midterm, so swing district too.
00:13:27.000 And swing district.
00:13:28.000 Even if you're in a red state, you'll have these competitive districts.
00:13:32.000 So you'll be in Texas.
00:13:34.000 If you're in rural Texas, you'll be looking at the big city nearest to you where there's maybe one of those new congressional map seats they have.
00:13:40.000 Or even if you're in California, people always want to help out in California.
00:13:44.000 They have a new map.
00:13:45.000 They're trying to take a lot of seats from us.
00:13:47.000 But if we can get the, you know, the ballots chasing efforts, if we can build on what we had, the success we had in 22, the success we had in 24, if we could deny them some of those seats they plan to flip, that will make the difference in whether we keep or lose the house.
00:14:02.000 And keeping or losing the house is going to make a big difference in how successful this administration is.
00:14:06.000 Right.
00:14:07.000 I mean, this next election could hang in the balance of one or two congressional seats.
00:14:11.000 That's why Indiana matters so much right now.
00:14:14.000 People can get involved.
00:14:16.000 Is there a status update on that?
00:14:17.000 I know people have gotten very interested in that.
00:14:19.000 Yeah, actually, so it's going through the House right now.
00:14:22.000 They're about complete.
00:14:23.000 They think that it's going to pass.
00:14:25.000 The new maps are going to pass the House, which is a 9-0 map.
00:14:28.000 And then next week will be the Senate, which is where the real challenge is for India.
00:14:32.000 They have like a state-level filibuster that is the obstacle because they need a supermajority to actually pass it, correct?
00:14:39.000 Yeah, they just need a majority of the, I believe it's actually just a majority.
00:14:44.000 So they need to need 26 of the Republicans out of the 40 Republicans to vote yes.
00:14:49.000 26 out of 40 seems like it should be attainable, but state-level Republicans, they have this way of letting you down far too often.
00:14:55.000 And there's great, there's great state-level Republicans too.
00:14:58.000 But Charlie would always, he would talk about this when we were doing the Nebraska Project, when we were just over and over.
00:15:04.000 You have to, we have an obligation.
00:15:06.000 You have to take a national view of things because the entire country is on the line.
00:15:11.000 That's right.
00:15:11.000 And you have to fight at the state level where you're able to, but you also have to be ready to fight at the national level.
00:15:17.000 You have to work towards both.
00:15:19.000 You can't be provincial.
00:15:20.000 You can't be narrow-minded and focused.
00:15:24.000 There's fewer Democrats in the state legislature in Indiana than just about any red state.
00:15:31.000 They only have 10 out of the 50 state senators.
00:15:36.000 So again, this is where this comes in.
00:15:40.000 We have to maximize our opportunity right now to benefit the rest of the country.
00:15:45.000 And Indiana is one of the very few places where you can make that argument that that is a through and through top-to-bottom red state.
00:15:52.000 Yeah, just you have to, Charlie talked about this in right-wing revolution.
00:15:56.000 A lot of successes, we have to win back purple states, but also in red states, maximize the value of your red states.
00:16:02.000 Think, use, and Tennessee is still red.
00:16:05.000 Use Tennessee the way the Democrats use California and use Florida, Texas.
00:16:10.000 While you have these advantages, they're large states.
00:16:13.000 They have the GDP of large European countries.
00:16:17.000 Use that.
00:16:18.000 Before we go, another way you can get involved if you're at the grassroots.
00:16:21.000 If you're attending AmericaFest, AmFest, just three weeks from now, great opportunity to meet people from your state, from neighboring states, build the network that is going to matter next fall.
00:16:31.000 And we're going to have a lot of different things.
00:16:32.000 And we have a big announcement today put up number eight.
00:16:35.000 We have Vice President JD Vance will be speaking at AmericaFest.
00:16:40.000 Incredibly excited about that one.
00:16:41.000 Very excited.
00:16:42.000 We broke this this morning, super early this morning, is that JD Vance will be headlining the event.
00:16:48.000 He's going to have a very special message.
00:16:49.000 It's going to be a very important message.
00:16:52.000 And so, yeah, he's a hero of the movement.
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00:18:10.000 We had the boomer half hour just now, Daisy.
00:18:13.000 Now we have the Zoomer.
00:18:14.000 I don't know.
00:18:15.000 Now we have the Zoomer half hour.
00:18:17.000 We have the Zoomer half hour.
00:18:18.000 We have you, and I believe we have Danny.
00:18:20.000 He's on assignment somewhere far out east.
00:18:23.000 Are you with us, Danny?
00:18:24.000 Yeah, I'm here.
00:18:24.000 Can you hear me?
00:18:25.000 Oh, yes.
00:18:26.000 Yes, we can hear you.
00:18:27.000 Zoomers are joining from all across America. 1.00
00:18:30.000 They're growing in power.
00:18:31.000 And that's the worrisome thing.
00:18:32.000 So we were just talking about this Tennessee special election.
00:18:36.000 I suspect a lot of Gen Z didn't know there was a special election.
00:18:39.000 They can be a little tuned out from things.
00:18:41.000 And that's what matters.
00:18:42.000 So Charlie was incredibly proud of the shift among Gen Z voters who he reached out to the most.
00:18:48.000 A lot of them moved towards President Trump this last election, actually at an unprecedented level in our lifetimes, at least.
00:18:57.000 But there's signs, certainly from polls and just superficial indicators, that they are less enthusiastic now than they were last November.
00:19:06.000 And actually, we always, we have you on Daisy and we tout you as producer Daisy. 0.99
00:19:10.000 You pop in and out, but we don't, we don't tout you enough.
00:19:13.000 You, you built from the ground up the Charlie Instagram page.
00:19:17.000 Well, a lot of Zoomers use Instagram. 0.98
00:19:20.000 Emma Kay as well.
00:19:21.000 We have a whole team of people that have done an amazing job.
00:19:24.000 But I mean, it really, in the last couple of years, became the largest conservative Instagram account.
00:19:29.000 It's an incredible accomplishment, and that requires having your finger on Gen Z's pulse. 0.96
00:19:34.000 So the sense we had, we were discussing this yesterday, is as the lingo goes, Gen Z is blackpilled.
00:19:39.000 They feel downbeat about things.
00:19:42.000 Which Charlie was very, I mean, even to office every day.
00:19:45.000 No black pilling.
00:19:46.000 No black pill.
00:19:47.000 No bad news.
00:19:47.000 Yeah.
00:19:48.000 He would say that to me the most, of course.
00:19:50.000 But yeah, he would say that.
00:19:51.000 But the sense I get is that Gen Z is downbeat.
00:19:56.000 And I guess you listen to them as much as anyone here.
00:19:59.000 What is your sense?
00:20:00.000 I think that one of, so we have a clip about Trump talking about affordability.
00:20:07.000 And I need to find what number it is.
00:20:09.000 But we heard him say this yesterday, and this got us all talking because I think something that is not talked about a lot is when we were getting Gen Z to go out to the polls and vote for Trump, they were voting against the economy that they had heard about from their parents, from their grandparents.
00:20:28.000 They had heard about Joe Biden's failing economy.
00:20:31.000 Huge selling point.
00:20:33.000 But they were not actually active in the economy at that point.
00:20:36.000 So then them coming out of high school, college, and them being a part of the economy for Trump's economy, and it's still really stretching them and them still not be.
00:20:46.000 I don't know if they expected to just be able to get out of college and buy a house immediately, which is obviously not how things work.
00:20:54.000 There's a lot that has to go in that has to be put into place to fix things.
00:20:58.000 We have that clip here.
00:20:59.000 This is what prompted the discussion yesterday.
00:21:02.000 So this was Trump, I believe during his cabinet meeting yesterday.
00:21:05.000 He spoke with the press, and we have clip 283.
00:21:09.000 The word affordability is a Democratic scam.
00:21:13.000 They say it, and then they go into the next subject, and everyone thinks, oh, they had lower prices.
00:21:18.000 No, they had the worst inflation in the history of our country.
00:21:22.000 So it's getting cut up just as brief as possible by Democrats, by the left, to say, where he just says affordability is a scam.
00:21:30.000 And really what Trump is saying is everything related to inflation is a crisis that began in the Biden administration.
00:21:37.000 We did COVID stimulus too long into 21, 22.
00:21:40.000 They denied it was happening.
00:21:42.000 They said there is no inflation.
00:21:43.000 You see members may not remember this.
00:21:45.000 You were probably still in high school when this happened.
00:21:47.000 But they said they sent prices into the stratosphere.
00:21:51.000 I think we had 13%.
00:21:53.000 We had the highest inflation we'd had in half a century.
00:21:57.000 And Trump is saying, we are aiming to fix this.
00:22:00.000 But the clip can be cut up in isolation.
00:22:03.000 And you also know Gen Z watches clips that are five seconds long on TikTok.
00:22:07.000 And that can shape a lot of their perspective on reality.
00:22:10.000 There's that one.
00:22:11.000 There's another one from yesterday where he says affordability is a hoax.
00:22:13.000 We don't need to play it.
00:22:14.000 It's very clip.
00:22:15.000 It's very quick because that's the clip that's going around.
00:22:18.000 But Danny, I don't know what you're seeing on your X feed on your TikTok.
00:22:23.000 That is something that a Gen Z would hear and be like, okay, wait, why is it a hoax?
00:22:30.000 I've been this whole time expecting that things are going to get more affordable.
00:22:33.000 And that's not actually what Trump is saying.
00:22:35.000 So I think we need to focus on what sometimes the wording is not adding up or being received in the way that Gen Z can understand it.
00:22:43.000 What do you think, Danny?
00:22:44.000 Well, I think our biggest thing for Gen Z is immigration is what they care about the most.
00:22:50.000 And that ties into affordability, obviously.
00:22:52.000 But I think that is the baseline for everything in terms of what I've seen through all the algorithms, everything, talking to friends, what I've heard.
00:23:02.000 So it ties in.
00:23:03.000 I'd push back.
00:23:04.000 I guess you're probably referring to conservative young people then, that the conservative Gen Z base cares the most.
00:23:09.000 Yeah, conservative Gen Z. Conservative Gen Z.
00:23:13.000 And their sense is that there's just not enough immigration or yeah, and they're very blackpilled on the issue right now with obviously the H-1B stuff that happened and all the illegals that are here in the country now.
00:23:25.000 And I think that the algorithm and all that is keeping them from really seeing the good things that Trump's doing on immigration with deportations and stuff like that.
00:23:35.000 But I think it's also just the overall doomerism's at an all-time high.
00:23:40.000 And so that's what I think the main problem is.
00:23:42.000 And that ties into affordability and all their other problems.
00:23:45.000 Well, and I think it goes both ways.
00:23:47.000 Like, if we look at the two groups that we are having issues with, it would be Gen Z boys who are, what Danny's saying, too black pilled to even think that the immigration that's happening is positive and we are making real progress there. 1.00
00:24:01.000 And then it's Gen Z women who think that immigration is a broadly emotional issue. 0.98
00:24:07.000 They're seeing people being stripped away from their families and they're thinking about the women and the children.
00:24:13.000 And so I think that it is a huge voting point that we had and that we won on.
00:24:19.000 And we are seeing massive amounts of progress there, but I don't know that the messaging is working for either people groups that we have a problem with.
00:24:28.000 Yeah, I could definitely see that.
00:24:29.000 Where it's on the one hand, this is why Charlie would say no blackpilling, because I do think some of this is to a degree a mental, it is a mental function.
00:24:37.000 It is addictive to feel negative about things.
00:24:40.000 And so I always like, even I can feel frustrated with stuff that happens in politics.
00:24:44.000 And I always remember we secured the border overnight.
00:24:47.000 We had the biggest flood of people into this country ever and we just turned it off. 1.00
00:24:51.000 And that is a huge point of progress that we should be bragging about all of the time.
00:24:55.000 Not the least, because that is has some.
00:24:58.000 It doesn't have as much of that emotional baggage that they just manipulate, where anytime, people who are in this country illegally should be sent back. 0.97
00:25:04.000 Yet they make you feel shame that this happens, and we should not feel shame that people who broke the law are punished right, but I think it's also I think another problem Blake, is the administration has been focused a lot on foreign problems instead of domestic problems.
00:25:20.000 We see that with ending wars and stuff, which is great, but it's come to a point where a lot of people are just looking for answers at home and they kind of don't really care about foreign policy as much.
00:25:32.000 They are more so just focused on what affects them here domestically.
00:25:36.000 Well, and I think this all ties, I think we should play cut 250.
00:25:40.000 It's Charlie, from july of 2025 and it's a real I.
00:25:44.000 I think it.
00:25:45.000 Let's play it and then react to it.
00:25:47.000 We get more young people under the age of 35 to have equity in the system.
00:25:51.000 Yes, not the Democrat version of equity, where they want to have redistribution.
00:25:54.000 But actually are they paying a mortgage, do they own stuff or are they permanent renters?
00:26:00.000 A permanent renting class in this country is the prerequisite is the leading ingredient for radical politics that nobody wants to see.
00:26:08.000 We need to reinvigorate the ownership economy and then, all of a sudden, when you own stuff, you're less likely to burn down a Wendy's and vote for candidates like Zillron Momdani.
00:26:18.000 So I think that an a big, big issue in the doomerism stuff that Danny is talking about, which is, it's so, so horrible to think about.
00:26:30.000 But there, gen z had all these problems beforehand and Charlie was the person that was out there not only talking about it but talking to them and inspiring them to be better.
00:26:40.000 And then we all really publicly lost our personally, our friend and boss.
00:26:46.000 But gen z, they're One of their largest role models that any generation has ever had, because no generation before has had that much access to someone on social media to be able to see all of their thoughts in real time.
00:26:57.000 I mean, he was live on the air every day for hours.
00:27:00.000 They could see exactly what he was thinking.
00:27:02.000 And now they've lost that.
00:27:03.000 So there's a big looming question of where do they go.
00:27:07.000 And he was so positive.
00:27:09.000 I think that's one of the biggest wounds we feel.
00:27:11.000 Charlie, he would come out and he would say, There are huge challenges facing America, unprecedented challenges in a lot of ways.
00:27:17.000 Yet he would always frame it to, you can be better, you can make yourself stronger, you can succeed.
00:27:23.000 And he lived that out himself.
00:27:24.000 Charlie built this organization in his 20s.
00:27:26.000 He had a great family.
00:27:28.000 He actually achieved, he lived out his faith to such a strong degree.
00:27:32.000 And people want to follow strength.
00:27:35.000 They want to follow success.
00:27:36.000 He would not tell them to wallow in things.
00:27:38.000 He would say, every problem in your life, however daunting it seems, is fixable.
00:27:44.000 And I worry, you know, without Charlie, we've had too much of a balance toward this negativity, towards victim, making yourself into a victim.
00:27:53.000 And he hated the victim ideology.
00:27:55.000 Yeah, Danny, do you see that on your feed as well?
00:27:58.000 A lot of what I'm seeing and some of the differences is Charlie would call young men, especially to be better.
00:28:05.000 And there is a cheap cash grab of sorts of people now, young men are looking for a role model.
00:28:11.000 And it's like, hey, this is how you can complain and make your life worse if you just want to feel better in the moment.
00:28:16.000 Are you seeing that?
00:28:17.000 Are your friends talking about that?
00:28:19.000 What do they think?
00:28:20.000 Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of just like, you know what?
00:28:23.000 We even saw a viral clips last week of people saying, you don't need to get married anymore.
00:28:27.000 It's not worth it.
00:28:27.000 You're never going to be able to buy a home, stuff like that.
00:28:30.000 And young men are actually like kind of listening to this, following along, and that's a problem.
00:28:36.000 And also because negativity is just so easy to listen to, especially when you already are feeling negative.
00:28:42.000 It just sucks them in.
00:28:43.000 So I really feel like that's our biggest problem right now with Gen Z is just drawing. 1.00
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00:30:06.000 We're talking about reasons to not blackpill and how the Trump administration could communicate what its long-term plan is here.
00:30:14.000 And we were saying, I think one of the best things is to actually tie, you can kind of have this grand unified thing.
00:30:19.000 We've talked about how cracking down on crime is actually an affordability issue because when you make more cities and more neighborhoods livable, housing prices decline.
00:30:27.000 Also, when you fix the border, in the long run, house prices will decline.
00:30:32.000 And we can be frank, there are going to be short-term shocks.
00:30:35.000 A lot of businesses, Charlie would complain about this all the time.
00:30:39.000 There are businesses that got addicted to low-wage illegal labor, and there's going to be something of a shock as you get away from that.
00:30:48.000 And housing construction is one of those things.
00:30:49.000 There's a lot of illegal labor there. 0.99
00:30:51.000 There's a shock.
00:30:51.000 It's like if you're an alcoholic, which you shouldn't be because Charlie would tell you not to be, if you quit it all at once, it's actually very painful.
00:30:58.000 It's very difficult.
00:30:59.000 That's why people have so much trouble doing it.
00:31:01.000 And illegal immigration is like America's great addiction. 0.97
00:31:05.000 And so I think there's a lot of room for the administration to say we are breaking America's bad habits and there are going to be signs of improvement that they can point towards.
00:31:15.000 And not just we are making progress on immigration, but we are making progress on immigration and this is how it will personally affect you.
00:31:22.000 Yes, when it comes to the people who are going to personally affect you.
00:31:25.000 One thing, I'm wondering how we can best communicate this.
00:31:28.000 This was a thing we saw this morning that in the past year, 51% of homes have actually decreased in value.
00:31:35.000 And that's obviously not great if you're a homeowner looking to sell, but Charlie would say our top priority does need to be making sure young people have those affordable homes.
00:31:47.000 And I think at the least, the long run pitch has to be, we do need more affordable homes for people.
00:31:54.000 And the great way to square that circle is you can build new homes that are affordable.
00:31:59.000 And then hopefully you can try to have both sides of the coin.
00:32:03.000 Yeah, it's hard in cities like Phoenix.
00:32:07.000 The valley itself is already so congested that they are doing a lot of new builds, but they're all on the outskirts.
00:32:14.000 So I wonder if it's different in other cities that Phoenix are really populated all at once.
00:32:22.000 But I think, I'm wondering, Danny, what you think young men specifically on this affordability issue would like to hear from the administration to get them out of that black pilling. 1.00
00:32:35.000 I mean, the problem is they want less regulation for starters.
00:32:40.000 And the real problem is the only mainstream politician we've seen try and do this is Mamdani in New York City.
00:32:47.000 And that's why we saw so much of Gen Z kind of flock towards him in that election.
00:32:51.000 Wait, Mondani is less regulation?
00:32:53.000 No, but I'm saying in terms of actually trying to cause or try and fix housing, even if his ideas don't work, that's what – so they're looking for anything.
00:33:02.000 So they want less regulation, but if no one's actually going to do that, they will flock towards someone that's at least trying to.
00:33:08.000 And that's kind of what I've seen is that they're just looking for answers.
00:33:13.000 And so I really think the administration, HUD, needs to kind of focus on that and really get going.
00:33:20.000 It's interesting.
00:33:22.000 I was reading an essay about President Franklin Roosevelt, who is probably someone deeply lost in the mists of time for you guys.
00:33:29.000 But he was the president during the Great Depression.
00:33:32.000 And he's remembered as the guy who beat the Depression.
00:33:34.000 Yet really, if you look at the numbers, he kind of did not.
00:33:37.000 He actually, it went on a very long time.
00:33:39.000 There was a renewal of the Depression.
00:33:41.000 Yet the perception of him throughout was very positive.
00:33:44.000 And the argument this essay made was he was doing a lot of things.
00:33:48.000 He highlighted, I'm throwing the kitchen sink at this problem.
00:33:52.000 Whereas his predecessor, the Republican Herbert Hoover, had sort of frozen up and he just, he was afraid to do anything.
00:33:57.000 He seemed inert.
00:33:58.000 He seemed not responsive.
00:34:00.000 And so FDR, by being active, by being really aggressive, he sent this message, I care a lot.
00:34:05.000 I am working to fix this problem.
00:34:08.000 And you get the sense, could the administration fix a lot of its problems by just really aggressively showing, hey, here's all these things we are doing.
00:34:17.000 So rather than just say, we're cutting regulations, here's this specific thing we've done, this specific thing we've done.
00:34:23.000 Here's this nice video of this house going up in the Phoenix area that was enabled by our measure.
00:34:29.000 Do you think that communication strategy would go through?
00:34:31.000 Do we need White House home building TikToks? 0.98
00:34:34.000 Yeah.
00:34:34.000 I actually think we do.
00:34:36.000 I think that that would probably go over better than some of the ice TikToks that they're putting out, which we think are great, but a lot of the public is a little taken aback by.
00:34:47.000 Housing affordability TikToks, lowering prices, gas price TikToks, maybe.
00:34:54.000 Trump was talking, he's saying gas prices are lower.
00:34:57.000 He was talking about Thanksgiving being more affordable, but you really need to give a visual angle to this.
00:35:02.000 Well, and I think just having some, which Charlie's really good at, having some empathy for Gen Z, where like we kind of talked about at the beginning, they, sure, we can talk about how eggs are cheaper, gas is cheaper.
00:35:13.000 Most of Gen Z is now purchasing those things on their own, largely for the first time.
00:35:18.000 So they have, sure, they can hear about that it's cheaper.
00:35:20.000 It still doesn't feel cheap to them.
00:35:22.000 So I think the messaging is really important.