The Charlie Kirk Show - December 05, 2025


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Sean M. Davis, CEO and Co-Founder of the Federalist joins the show to discuss the results of the mid-term elections and the latest on the mail-in primary in Virginia. He also talks about the latest in the ongoing investigation into the alleged mail bomb blast in Virginia and why the FBI should be worried.

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome back to hour two of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:12.000 I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, joined by, as always, Blake Neff in our home studio back in Arizona.
00:01:20.000 And we are joined this hour at the top of it by Sean Davis, CEO and co-founder of the Federalist.
00:01:25.000 You can find him on exit, Sean M. Dave, D-A-V.
00:01:30.000 You just didn't go the whole way and just say, Sean M. Davis.
00:01:33.000 I just realized this.
00:01:34.000 What's with the shortened X handle, huh?
00:01:36.000 Some imposter squatted on my name, so it wasn't available.
00:01:39.000 It's a totally different thing.
00:01:40.000 You know what?
00:01:40.000 I'm going to work on this for you.
00:01:42.000 I'm going to work on this for you.
00:01:43.000 I had to go through the same thing.
00:01:45.000 I had to go through the same thing recently because everybody was, you know, asking, you know, why do you have this weird?
00:01:51.000 I just had this like goofball old handle, you know, from, I think, 2011 or something like that.
00:01:56.000 And I had to update it so people find me.
00:01:58.000 Anyways, I'm going to help you with this, Sean Davis.
00:02:01.000 So we've got really three topics, and there is a press conference that we are awaiting on this pipe bombing arrest that's been made in Virginia.
00:02:09.000 But we have three topics to get to.
00:02:11.000 And I think they are all equally as important.
00:02:14.000 So we've got this Tennessee race.
00:02:16.000 You are a Tennessee local there.
00:02:18.000 I don't know if she was, I don't know if this race, Tennessee 7, is your district, Sean.
00:02:22.000 Is that your actual district?
00:02:24.000 It is, yeah.
00:02:25.000 Okay.
00:02:25.000 What do you make of the outcome here?
00:02:28.000 Trump won it by a margin of 22.
00:02:31.000 We had Van Eps win it by plus nine.
00:02:34.000 A lot of people are taking that one of two ways.
00:02:37.000 What is the big takeaway that the base needs to hear right now, Sean Davis?
00:02:42.000 So the word that I keep hearing from people around here about that race is relief.
00:02:48.000 It was a close race until about two weeks ago.
00:02:51.000 I think it was within the margin of error.
00:02:53.000 Then there was a big national push to expose this Looney Tunes woman, Afton Bain, is a total left-wing communist kook who hated the city, hate the people who live here, hate the state. 1.00
00:03:04.000 And that was a top-down effort from Trump all the way down.
00:03:07.000 On the Monday before the election, there was a massive get out the vote rally with every statewide elected Republican in Tennessee.
00:03:13.000 And I think that last-minute charge, that last minute push to define her and get out the vote really made a difference.
00:03:19.000 So in looking at the race, I don't think it was a massive victory, nor do I think it was a doomsday warning.
00:03:28.000 I think it is a sign that Republicans have a lot that they still need to do between now and November.
00:03:33.000 You'll hear some people say that this is an R plus 10 district.
00:03:37.000 I think that's what the Cook political partisan voter index says.
00:03:42.000 I don't care.
00:03:43.000 That's not it.
00:03:43.000 This is a plus 20 R district.
00:03:46.000 Mark Green won the same district by 22 in 22.
00:03:50.000 Trump won it by 22.
00:03:53.000 That should be what people are winning by as Republicans here.
00:03:56.000 So a nine-point victory is a sign that we have a lot of work to do.
00:03:59.000 It's not a sign of triumphalism.
00:04:01.000 Yay, we won.
00:04:02.000 We have nothing to worry about.
00:04:04.000 Nor is it a sign of doomerism that we're screwed.
00:04:07.000 We've got another 11 months to the election, and Republicans have to get to work putting together a message and an agenda that proves that they're acting on the things that people want them to do.
00:04:16.000 Yeah, I mean, Blake, feel free to chime in here.
00:04:18.000 I think that a couple things happen.
00:04:20.000 We are proving that we are absolutely abysmal at off-year elections.
00:04:24.000 We just are.
00:04:25.000 And we could try and identify what the source of that terrible performance is, whether it's we're a low-prop party, whether it's our GOTV is not what it needs to be, which is a fact.
00:04:36.000 It's not even debatable at this point.
00:04:38.000 Now, turning point action, we have a massive get-out-the-vote program called Chase the Vote.
00:04:43.000 We do that in specific areas.
00:04:45.000 We are not active with paid staff or any huge effort in Tennessee.
00:04:50.000 We simply have to choose our battles there, and we have to deploy resources in a prudent way.
00:04:55.000 And that is not where we're active.
00:04:57.000 But there is local GOP, there are RNC groups on the ground.
00:05:01.000 As you said, they got activated late.
00:05:02.000 Yeah.
00:05:04.000 Sean, you tell us.
00:05:05.000 What do you think the biggest driver of why we, frankly, are struggling in some of these off-year, lower-prop elections compared to, I feel when I was a young adult, the GOP was seen as stronger in some of those off-elections?
00:05:20.000 Yeah, I think the main reason is that outside of Trump, the Republican Party is kind of having an identity crisis.
00:05:27.000 People love Trump.
00:05:30.000 Kind of low-prop voters who aren't traditionally identified with either party, they like Trump.
00:05:35.000 He has energy.
00:05:36.000 He has a vision.
00:05:37.000 He has an agenda.
00:05:38.000 Everyone understands what Donald Trump believes, whether they love him or hate him.
00:05:42.000 Everyone knows what he believes.
00:05:44.000 I don't know if you can say that about the Republican Party apart from Trump.
00:05:48.000 And it's the Republican Party apart from Trump that is always on the ballot in off-year elections.
00:05:53.000 Yes, Trump is there.
00:05:54.000 He's able to do get out the vote.
00:05:55.000 He's able to do rallies.
00:05:57.000 But his name not being on the ballot makes a big difference.
00:05:59.000 And so I think the GOP is really having an identity crisis that's driven by a lot of the old establishment, people who've been in office for 20 or 30 years, still wanting to take the party back to 2002 or 2003, the heady days of the Iraq war and GOP corporatism.
00:06:16.000 And they don't really like this new MAGA Trump.
00:06:19.000 They can't really come out and say that.
00:06:21.000 They can't say that they don't like the MAGA agenda.
00:06:23.000 So they kind of just have to like sit back and quietly stifle it while pretending they're doing good things.
00:06:29.000 And what you end up with there is a party that just looks completely scarotic and kind of neutered.
00:06:34.000 And that's a hard party to get people to jazzed up to vote for in an off-year.
00:06:38.000 So that's my take.
00:06:40.000 I was thinking an aspect of this is also it is that there's an old guard that really does wish to rewind before Trump.
00:06:47.000 But I think it's also the case.
00:06:48.000 Trump himself does have this special gravity around him.
00:06:52.000 He does make the entire world obsessed with him.
00:06:55.000 Everything in American politics has revolved around him since 2015.
00:06:59.000 He has not been shy about redefining the Republican Party around his personal brand, his personal identity, and that has upsides.
00:07:08.000 He really does whip people up the way no one else can.
00:07:11.000 But we see the downside, which is without him, there is that void of enthusiasm.
00:07:17.000 Well, yeah, and I completely agree with that.
00:07:19.000 But yeah, I think, you know, we are, there's doubt that we are at a nader in the enthusiasm levels.
00:07:28.000 The summer, a lot of the infighting, there's just no doubt, right?
00:07:31.000 And again, we have this issue with off-cycle elections.
00:07:35.000 Now, President Trump has pivoted.
00:07:36.000 The administration has pivoted.
00:07:38.000 You're starting to hear a lot more about the affordability crisis.
00:07:40.000 You're starting to hear a lot more about plans and creative ideas to address housing.
00:07:45.000 And most importantly is what I would say that, yeah, he has a gravitational pull.
00:07:51.000 He defines all of politics, not just Republican politics, but left and right in this country.
00:07:57.000 But you saw this third world immigration moratorium take effect.
00:08:02.000 And if you talk to pollsters like Rich Barris, he and I were communicating on this.
00:08:06.000 There was a jump massively, we talked about on the show on enthusiasm for the base Republican voters.
00:08:13.000 And so when he's polling the Third World Immigration Moratorium, which is a core component, a core plank of the MAGA movement of the populist right movement is to get our immigration house in order.
00:08:24.000 You saw a jump immediately in the enthusiasm for voters.
00:08:27.000 Rich's contention, and this was my prediction, was that this race would have been even closer had President Trump not come out with that moratorium following the ambush, assassination, and nearly two of the National Guardsmen in just blocks away from the White House.
00:08:45.000 Had he not come out with something bold and unapologetic, we would have seen an even closer race. 0.95
00:08:50.000 You have to give voters something to get enthusiastic about.
00:08:53.000 When you have a low-propensity party like we do, and obviously it's a mix, but there is now more low props in our movement than there were before Donald Trump.
00:09:02.000 There's just no doubt.
00:09:03.000 When you have a low-prop party, you have to increase enthusiasm.
00:09:05.000 You have to increase attention.
00:09:07.000 And that's ultimately, to Sean's point, in the last final run-up to this, we finally got on the ball.
00:09:13.000 National Republican apparatus got engaged.
00:09:15.000 We started messaging on it.
00:09:17.000 And then you had this moratorium.
00:09:18.000 Boom, nine points.
00:09:20.000 Is it still too close?
00:09:22.000 Yes, absolutely.
00:09:23.000 Is it still a warning?
00:09:24.000 Yes.
00:09:24.000 Is it triumphalism?
00:09:25.000 No, absolutely not.
00:09:27.000 But at least we saw an eight, nine-point victory.
00:09:32.000 And what we were seeing could have been within the margin of error before that.
00:09:35.000 So I think what we need to do is we need to make sure we're giving voters what they want.
00:09:40.000 That's ultimately what the lesson is here.
00:09:42.000 I think it's important to tackle immigration not just as a standalone issue, because it's part of a much broader sense that we're losing our country.
00:09:51.000 We can't afford to buy homes.
00:09:52.000 We can't find jobs.
00:09:55.000 Stuff doesn't work anymore.
00:09:56.000 So it's not just, oh, we don't like immigrants.
00:09:58.000 They need to go home.
00:09:59.000 That's not the case.
00:10:00.000 It's that people feel the sense that they can't do things in their country that they believe they should be allowed to, that the American dream is just being whittled away and eroded away.
00:10:09.000 And immigration is a big part of that.
00:10:11.000 When people think they can't get ahead, even when they follow the rules, that they'll never be able to buy a house, that they'll never pay down their college debt, that they'll never get a good job, that they'll never be able to raise their family on one income.
00:10:22.000 That is where the immigration thing plays in.
00:10:24.000 And so I think it's really important for Republicans to put that in the context of rebuilding the American dream and restoring the American dream for Americans.
00:10:33.000 Yeah, Sean, that's such a good point.
00:10:34.000 But just when people equate the immigration desires of the base, of MAGA base, and they equate it with xenophobia or bigotry or racism, it couldn't be further from the truth.
00:10:45.000 And we really need to keep hammering that home.
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00:11:52.000 I was talking with Sean prepping for this segment today, and he really wanted to hit the Lane Kiffen story out of the SEC, which was funny, Sean, because the other gentleman with amazing hair on this screen right now also has been begging to hit this story.
00:12:10.000 So I'm going to throw it to Blake first and say, Blake, set the table, and then Sean, you tell us why this is important.
00:12:16.000 We know Charlie was a big Oregon Ducks fan.
00:12:20.000 I have the, I don't know.
00:12:21.000 I don't know its name, Ducky the Duck.
00:12:22.000 I'm just going to call it that.
00:12:23.000 We have that mascot here.
00:12:25.000 He loved following college football.
00:12:26.000 He would have actually been all over this.
00:12:28.000 We would have definitely been talking about it with him because a lot of news happened over the weekend about, you know, we had the attack in D.C., we had the Somali story.
00:12:39.000 We had this insurrection.
00:12:40.000 But for a normal middle American, it's quite possible their biggest story for them is Lane Kiffen, the coach at Ole Miss.
00:12:49.000 He has decided to take an offer to go to LSU for more fame, basically.
00:12:56.000 It's a bigger, more stout program with more national championships.
00:13:00.000 People are very outraged about it.
00:13:01.000 They feel he's betrayed his school.
00:13:03.000 But I feel it also is emblematic of how college football is today, where basically every player is on a one-year, they can get paid now.
00:13:11.000 They're basically on a one-year free agency deal with a college.
00:13:14.000 They can get in the transfer portal and go wherever you want.
00:13:16.000 But what do you make of it, Sean?
00:13:18.000 So I love Lane Kiffin for making himself the most hatable person in all of college sports.
00:13:24.000 Like college sports thrives on hatred and rivalries.
00:13:28.000 And quite honestly, all the reorgs and the conferences, we've lost a lot of those old-timey rivals and hatred.
00:13:35.000 And so I love Lane being himself, doing the heel turn, because he did it to Tennessee.
00:13:41.000 You know, he got fired at USC and left on the tarmac.
00:13:44.000 I love that he's doing this, that he's doing it in conference, because it is going to make the LSU game in Oxford next year absolutely amazing.
00:13:52.000 But I will say, loyalty is not entirely dead in college football.
00:13:56.000 It's not all about the money.
00:13:57.000 It's not all about the fame.
00:13:59.000 I say that as a Texas Tech Red Raider, guns up in Wreckham.
00:14:02.000 Our coach was asked about this earlier this week, and he said, I don't care about any of it.
00:14:07.000 You're going to bury me in Lubbock.
00:14:09.000 So not all of the college coaches are villains.
00:14:11.000 Some of them are awesome, like Joey McGuire at Texas Tech in Lubbock, Texas.
00:14:15.000 What?
00:14:16.000 Wreckham.
00:14:17.000 As a U-Wub graduate and a Husky fan, when we had Kalen DeBoer, we lost in the national championship.
00:14:24.000 Everybody was willing to sort of give Kaylin DeBoer this keys to the city that he was going to be a king in a very, listen, it's not the biggest empire in America, the U-W, but they have a very proud football tradition.
00:14:39.000 And we were hoping that he was going to stay.
00:14:41.000 And of course he didn't.
00:14:43.000 He had to go to Alabama, where he is absolutely in a meat grinder.
00:14:47.000 I mean, to be in that program and following in the heels of one of the greatest to ever do it, if not the greatest to ever do it.
00:14:57.000 I do not envy him.
00:14:58.000 And he's sort of getting his just deserves.
00:14:59.000 What is he?
00:15:00.000 Ranked 10?
00:15:01.000 Was he Danny 10?
00:15:03.000 10 in the nation?
00:15:04.000 Two losses.
00:15:05.000 It's not good enough for Alabama football.
00:15:06.000 So sometimes you get what you wish for.
00:15:08.000 But I agree with you, Sean.
00:15:10.000 It is really good for college football to have a villain.
00:15:13.000 And Lane Kiffin is one of those personalities that can totally embrace it, step right into it.
00:15:18.000 I told you on the photo, I was like, you better have some good security going into Oxford, Mississippi.
00:15:23.000 We did an Ole Miss event this year with JD Vance and Erica Kirk.
00:15:27.000 And it was one of the most enthusiastic events I've ever been to.
00:15:31.000 That student body's riled up.
00:15:33.000 They're very proud of their football program.
00:15:35.000 And they're doing well this year.
00:15:37.000 And so they're not even going to let him finish out the season.
00:15:42.000 That's how cutthroat this is for if you're in Mississippi.
00:15:45.000 And so I just, I celebrate this.
00:15:47.000 Lane Kiffin's like a Trump supporter.
00:15:49.000 He's super entertaining when it comes to talking to the press and the media.
00:15:53.000 He'll go places that other coaches will not dare to.
00:15:56.000 And now he's at LSU, and the SEC has a big-time rivalry, an unexpected big-time rivalry, probably center stage, which is outshining all the others.
00:16:04.000 Yeah, it's going to be amazing.
00:16:05.000 I cannot wait for the next season of football.
00:16:08.000 Obviously, we're not done with this one yet.
00:16:11.000 The number four Texas Tech Raiders, Red Raiders heading into the championship this weekend.
00:16:16.000 If I haven't said it, recommend guns up.
00:16:19.000 Oh, man.
00:16:20.000 You just said it.
00:16:21.000 But I just do, I do feel, I feel a little pain.
00:16:24.000 I've always been more of an NFL fan.
00:16:26.000 I grew up in South Dakota.
00:16:27.000 It's a bit of a college football black hole in relative terms.
00:16:31.000 But it just seems money is going to be the inevitable thing.
00:16:36.000 The coaches all want to go where there's either the most prestige or the most cash.
00:16:40.000 And the players largely want to do the same thing.
00:16:42.000 And it's so easy to transfer.
00:16:44.000 I just, I worry in 10 years, we'll look back on what we lost and we'll feel a lot more pain about it.
00:16:51.000 I fear.
00:16:52.000 Yeah.
00:16:52.000 Sean, I agree with, I actually agree with Blake.
00:16:55.000 I think this is going to create a race the top and the mid-level schools.
00:17:00.000 We're not going to be talking about them as much in 10 years.
00:17:02.000 But who's going to win the national championship this year?
00:17:05.000 Ohio State looks really, really good.
00:17:07.000 Their defense is ridiculous.
00:17:09.000 Their offense is off the charts.
00:17:11.000 But they stand no chance against the Texas Tech Raiders of Lubbock, Texas.
00:17:16.000 Oh, my gosh.
00:17:17.000 All right, fine.
00:17:18.000 What about Indiana?
00:17:19.000 Indiana this year.
00:17:20.000 Oh, come on. 0.87
00:17:20.000 This is really impressive. 0.87
00:17:21.000 We'll find out Saturday.
00:17:22.000 Sean Davis.
00:17:24.000 Yeah, Sean Davis, the man, the myth, the legend.
00:17:27.000 Thanks for joining us.
00:17:28.000 Thanks, guys.
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00:18:32.000 Joining us now on the show is Adam Wren.
00:18:35.000 He's the director of Open Justice UK.
00:18:38.000 And there is a lot of breaking news out of the United Kingdom when it comes to these grooming gangs and the story that has been boiling under the surface for many years in that country.
00:18:50.000 But then with the help of Elon Musk and others, it has been brought to the fore and they're doing some great work.
00:18:56.000 Blake, why don't you give us a little primer and help us welcome Adam to the show here?
00:19:00.000 Yeah, yeah, sure.
00:19:01.000 Hey, Adam, glad to have you.
00:19:03.000 Can you hear us?
00:19:04.000 I can.
00:19:04.000 Can you hear me?
00:19:05.000 Excellent.
00:19:05.000 Excellent.
00:19:06.000 So, yeah, I guess let's just tee up your work.
00:19:09.000 This is a cause Charlie cared a lot about.
00:19:11.000 He cared a lot about the fate of the United Kingdom and how it could be a country that represents America's future in a lot of ways.
00:19:18.000 And we're revisiting what's been a story for a while, which is these grooming gangs, mostly linked to immigrants or immigrant-derived people in or immigrant-derived people in the United Kingdom.
00:19:29.000 And they were grooming and sexually assaulting, sexually abusing British girls. 0.86
00:19:34.000 And you've been working to really bring forth to the public the full details of what happened with these grooming gangs.
00:19:43.000 I think it's going to catch people here off guard just how much of this wasn't known, how much little transparency there was.
00:19:50.000 But how about you set this up for us?
00:19:51.000 What have you been releasing the last couple of days?
00:19:53.000 So, yes, thank you for the introduction.
00:19:55.000 The crimes have been known for a long time, decades, but the full details of them were never released.
00:20:03.000 And that includes partly just the genuine barbarity of these crimes.
00:20:09.000 These girls were not just being sexually abused, they were being raped in horrific, really unspeakable ways.
00:20:16.000 And in some cases, tortured.
00:20:19.000 There's no equivocation.
00:20:21.000 There's no other language that can be used to describe what happened to them.
00:20:26.000 And I think it was the release of the first transcripts around January that really brought home to the public that these aren't normal crimes and they have been covered up by the police, by social services, and by our government.
00:20:40.000 And the reality, I think, is really starting to hit home with people.
00:20:45.000 This release that we've just done this last week has more than doubled, more than tripled, actually, the current number of sentencing remarks.
00:20:55.000 A number of these documents are now in the public.
00:20:58.000 They are available to read at transcripts.openjustice uk.org.
00:21:03.000 And it's, yeah, I mean, the dam is really breaking on this stuff.
00:21:07.000 Yeah, you say sentencing remarks.
00:21:09.000 So I think in the United States, we would see it as a default that court hearings are public, that the sentence remarks of a judge would be public.
00:21:19.000 It's generally here not difficult to get.
00:21:22.000 You might not have cameras in a courtroom, but you'll virtually always have at least the transcripts of what is going on in court and what a judge would say.
00:21:30.000 But that's apparently not the norm in the UK.
00:21:32.000 And I believe they've tried to charge you huge sums of money to get these, haven't they?
00:21:36.000 Yeah, it's very true.
00:21:37.000 So in the US legal system, transcripts are made automatically just in case a hearing, you know, a trial has to go to an appeal court.
00:21:48.000 In the UK, that's absolutely not the case.
00:21:50.000 You'd have to request them.
00:21:51.000 And a judge has to accept that you have a good reason for requesting them.
00:21:57.000 So we actually had a number of judges deny us.
00:21:59.000 One judge actually denied us with the justification that having this information in the public was not conductive to the public good.
00:22:08.000 It wouldn't help the conversation that was happening.
00:22:10.000 And then even when the judges do allow us to get the transcripts, in some cases, we were quoted £30,000.
00:22:20.000 It's just inaccessible to a victim.
00:22:23.000 We've only been able to do this because we've crowdfunded the money to acquire them.
00:22:27.000 Yeah, and I can't, frankly, I can't read all of these because they're just too graphic for our audience.
00:22:32.000 But I just want to, you guys, anyone who's listening should go look up OpenJustice UK and read these.
00:22:38.000 They're freely available now, but it's describing what's going on.
00:22:40.000 So these are gangs, again, mostly migrant-related, and they would sort of pick up underage UK girls, 12, 13, 14 years old, and they would sort of, they would groom them and eventually just begin sexually assaulting them.
00:22:54.000 And what we're seeing in these is you have it where they're threatened with violence if they don't have sex with multiple different men.
00:23:01.000 We have cases where there's, for example, a migrant-owned taxi company where they're basically engaging in prostitution rings. 0.99
00:23:12.000 And there's this strong racial element to it as well, where they're told, hey, we're taking over your country.
00:23:19.000 This is what's happening to you now.
00:23:21.000 They're told, we do this to you because we won't do this to Asian women. 1.00
00:23:25.000 Asian in the UK refers to a lot of migrants from South Asia.
00:23:30.000 It's incredibly appalling stuff.
00:23:33.000 And again, it's practically too graphic.
00:23:36.000 They were older, some in their 30s, sometimes up to three different men a day, multiple times a day.
00:23:43.000 It's truly jarring stuff.
00:23:45.000 And a question that's also being asked online right now, and maybe you can answer this, Adam.
00:23:50.000 Why aren't these, these apparently also weren't treated as hate crimes?
00:23:55.000 Yeah, I mean, in some of the transcripts we've released just this week, as you said, they're explicitly targeting these girls because of their race.
00:24:04.000 I won't read the excerpts because they are very disturbing.
00:24:09.000 But you're right.
00:24:09.000 We have provisions in this country where crimes sentences should be aggravated if somebody is targeted for a protected characteristic.
00:24:19.000 That could be religion, race.
00:24:22.000 Not a single one of these cases, to my awareness, has had that aggravating sentencing applied.
00:24:28.000 It seems to be that they weren't prosecuted for a hate crime or a race crime, despite it being laid out in black and white that these girls were targeted for being white.
00:24:41.000 It's absolutely unbelievable.
00:24:43.000 Yeah, Andrew, if you want to come in.
00:24:45.000 Yeah, so it occurs to me that it's these crime.
00:24:49.000 I've been reading these transcripts while you guys have been discussing this back and forth.
00:24:54.000 And I'm just horrified at it.
00:24:58.000 I mean, the victim six, I'm reading, was a particularly vulnerable young girl.
00:25:01.000 She had been abused from the age of seven by various men.
00:25:05.000 She knew you, Mr. Hussain, and you from when she was 14.
00:25:11.000 I mean, she was placed in children's homes and getting abused. 1.00
00:25:15.000 I can't even read the rest of it, obviously, as you guys have already said.
00:25:18.000 But in the UK, there seems to be this push for decades against transparency, against releasing this information.
00:25:27.000 It almost feels like a cover-up.
00:25:30.000 First question, what's behind that?
00:25:33.000 Why wouldn't the leadership in the UK, the justice officials want to expose this?
00:25:38.000 And then secondly, in this new era, post-Elon Musk blowing the lid off this story, I know there was other people working diligently behind the scenes.
00:25:46.000 He just provided an amplification, a microphone to it.
00:25:51.000 Are you seeing whatever that stranglehold on the truth is?
00:25:54.000 Are you seeing it break?
00:25:55.000 Yeah, so it's an excellent question.
00:25:58.000 I think there has been a cover-up.
00:26:01.000 Yeah.
00:26:01.000 And I think it's partly because it's very, very difficult to discuss race, especially when all of the discussions around race and around institutional racism are orientated towards white people being the perpetrators.
00:26:18.000 It's very, very difficult to discuss things like people being targeted for their race when white people are the victims.
00:26:26.000 You know, we talk about rape culture, but there are cases here where, you know, men will call up their uncles, their cousins, their nephews, and they will say, you know, we have this girl. 0.97
00:26:36.000 You know, we have her.
00:26:37.000 Do you want to come over and help us rape her? 1.00
00:26:40.000 And, you know, if that's not rape culture, then what is, right? 0.97
00:26:45.000 It's unbelievable.
00:26:46.000 It's endemic.
00:26:47.000 So I think it's very difficult to discuss this within the paradigm that we've been taught about how race and race relations and institutions interact.
00:26:56.000 And I think it's also the case that many of the people that were involved in these gangs were in positions of power.
00:27:04.000 They were working for or with the local police, with the local councils, with the local government.
00:27:11.000 And these crimes have been happening for so long that maybe now some of those people are quite senior.
00:27:16.000 They've been promoted.
00:27:17.000 They've gone on to other jobs.
00:27:20.000 And they are, you know, they have the ability to shut down investigations, to order information destroyed.
00:27:28.000 So, yeah, without a doubt, cover-up.
00:27:32.000 And you're right.
00:27:32.000 It's breaking.
00:27:34.000 It is breaking, yeah.
00:27:35.000 So, this is the second part of your question there, it is breaking.
00:27:38.000 We had an excellent review by a woman called Baroness Louise Casey, who was working for the government.
00:27:44.000 And she's actually, you know, closely associated with our civil service and with labor.
00:27:51.000 Some people, some people think that they're the main perpetrators of this, but she was very brave.
00:27:55.000 And she came out with a very, very strong review where she outlined that there has been a cover-up, that the media has been very irresponsible in its reporting, and the files have been deleted, and that the perpetrators of these are predominantly Pakistani Muslim men.
00:28:12.000 And since that report, we've seen the media more willing to engage on it.
00:28:17.000 We've seen people more willing to tell the truth.
00:28:19.000 We've seen more survivors coming forward.
00:28:22.000 I think the dumb is breaking.
00:28:23.000 Yeah, things are improving quite substantially.
00:28:27.000 You really, I really want people to check out.
00:28:29.000 You can find good excerpts on Adam's X account at GoAdam.
00:28:33.000 It's G0ADM at X. He's got some great excerpts there, or you can go to transcripts.openjusticeuk.org.
00:28:45.000 Check those out.
00:28:46.000 Yeah.
00:28:46.000 Thank you, Adam, for joining us.
00:28:48.000 It's a truly horrifying story, but thank you for making the time to tell our audience about it.
00:28:52.000 Thank you.
00:28:53.000 Well, thank you for inviting me.
00:28:54.000 Thank you.
00:28:55.000 Yeah, it's just horrible.
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00:30:07.000 We would be remiss if we did not bring up what Erica was doing yesterday.
00:30:12.000 And she was in New York.
00:30:13.000 She was talking about, she was with Andrew Ross Sorkin, who people might be surprised was a friend of Charlie's.
00:30:20.000 They actually had a pretty warm relationship.
00:30:22.000 They disagreed on a lot of things.
00:30:25.000 Andrew Ross Sorkin had invited Charlie out to Deal Book, which is a major event in liberal circles.
00:30:30.000 Gavin Newsom was on just before Erica, believe it or not.
00:30:34.000 And Erica wanted to honor what Charlie had committed to and go in his place.
00:30:39.000 And she did a great job. 0.99
00:30:41.000 We were very proud of her.
00:30:42.000 I was, like I said, I was doing another podcast, met up with them for this deal book thing.
00:30:47.000 So let's play a clip from this.
00:30:48.000 We were very proud of her.
00:30:49.000 328.
00:30:50.000 We are living in a day and age where they think violence is the solution to them not wanting to hear a different point of view.
00:31:04.000 That's not a gun problem.
00:31:06.000 That's a human, deeply human problem.
00:31:11.000 And, you know, Blake, she got asked about all kinds of political questions.
00:31:15.000 And I think Sorkin kind of threw stuff that, you know, other people hadn't asked her about.
00:31:20.000 And I thought she handled it extraordinarily well with a lot of grace and composure.
00:31:26.000 She did.
00:31:26.000 She did.
00:31:27.000 I think another, she got into the personal dimension as well, talking about her life with Charlie.
00:31:33.000 And I think this is probably what's gotten the most focus is this statement that she said.
00:31:37.000 She talks basically about how Charlie helped get her out of the, call it the boss babe track in New York City.
00:31:45.000 Let's play 324. 0.70
00:31:47.000 I will be fully transparent.
00:31:49.000 I was fully bought into the boss babe.
00:31:55.000 I mean, I lived in Manhattan.
00:31:57.000 Charlie essentially plucked me out of the New York City orbit and was like, no, I have a healthier way of viewing things and looking at life and things like that.
00:32:07.000 And he was right.
00:32:08.000 He was right.
00:32:09.000 And I remember thinking, if I would have stayed on that path I was on, I would have lost out on some of the most beautiful moments of my life.
00:32:23.000 Children, having a husband, being able to create and build something so incredible.
00:32:30.000 Yeah, there is a lot of that.
00:32:33.000 I think the liberal media establishment is freaking out.
00:32:36.000 Like, why did you invite Erica Kirk to tell women they shouldn't pursue a career? 1.00
00:32:40.000 And that's not dragging.
00:32:41.000 Charlie dragged a lot of people kicking and screaming from New York, from D.C., from California.
00:32:47.000 Dragged them out to the desert where it rains way more often than people say.
00:32:51.000 And he built something amazing.
00:32:53.000 I actually have a funny story about that.
00:32:55.000 I was trying to get home.
00:32:56.000 I'd been gone for 18 days trying to get back to my family after everything happened.
00:33:01.000 And there was like torrential downpour.
00:33:04.000 All the flights were canceled in Phoenix.
00:33:06.000 They were like, it's the most rain we've had in seven years.
00:33:08.000 And I was like, what the heck is happening?
00:33:10.000 Like, I cannot, I guess, you know, it was like a sign that Phoenix was.
00:33:14.000 The world's going to learn the truth.
00:33:16.000 Phoenix is a fake desert.
00:33:18.000 It rains all the time here.
00:33:19.000 It rains a lot.
00:33:21.000 No, but I'm just, I just want to make this point because Erica did this.
00:33:27.000 She goes into the lion's den, into the liberal core in New York City and Manhattan and takes whatever questions are thrown her way. 0.98
00:33:37.000 And she did it to honor her husband.
00:33:39.000 Charlie was going to go to that event.
00:33:41.000 I was going to be with him.
00:33:42.000 And we booked it a long time ago.
00:33:44.000 Obviously, Charlie was not able to do that.
00:33:46.000 And Erica honored that commitment.
00:33:48.000 And that's just the kind of person she is.
00:33:51.000 And I just couldn't say enough good things.
00:33:54.000 And candidly, I felt like Andrew Ross Sorkin did a good job.
00:33:59.000 He was not mean in any way.
00:34:00.000 He was very warm and sympathetic to what Erica has gone through.
00:34:05.000 The audience was warm and sympathetic.
00:34:07.000 So all in all, hat tip to all involved and to Erica especially.