The Charlie Kirk Show - How COVID Killed New York City with Karol Markowicz

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's on the Charlie Kirk show.

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00:00:02.000 As always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:00:04.000 We have Carol Markowitz to talk about Florida versus New York. 0.98

00:00:09.000 We talk about also the Washington Post's bizarre fascination with this show and Turning Point USA's attempt to try to start an online educational program, which we will get done.

00:00:18.000 It's very exciting what we are doing.

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00:00:42.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:43.000 Here we go.

00:00:45.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:46.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:48.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:52.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:55.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:56.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:57.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:59.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:06.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:14.000 That's why we are here.

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00:01:26.000 We got some serious problems in our country.

00:01:28.000 Suicides are up, alcoholism is up, drug addiction, over 100,000 drug overdoses in the last year.

00:01:36.000 Small businesses are struggling, double-digit inflation.

00:01:39.000 Gas prices out of reach.

00:01:40.000 Whatever's happening on the eastern border of Ukraine that the regime wants to care about.

00:01:44.000 Our southern border is wide open.

00:01:45.000 By the way, I'm going to the border tomorrow at an undisclosed location.

00:01:48.000 I know I have a lot of fans there, I'm sure.

00:01:50.000 Yeah, right.

00:01:52.000 So I'm not going to tell you where I'm going to be, but we're going to the border tomorrow, so we'll be off tomorrow.

00:01:56.000 We got a lot of problems in our country, but don't worry.

00:01:58.000 The Washington Post, everybody, they're on the case.

00:02:00.000 They're on the case because they wrote a multi-page article today about a thing that actually ended up not happening, but an idea that we had that almost potentially possibly could have happened around having people be able to go online for digital education.

00:02:15.000 So this is what the Washington Post considers to be like breaking news.

00:02:18.000 This story this morning.

00:02:19.000 Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA Academy, not even what we call it, by the way, get the name right.

00:02:25.000 Okay.

00:02:26.000 If you're going to slander me, just get the name right, whatever.

00:02:29.000 Had potential for $40 million in revenue by selling America First Education potential partner suggested.

00:02:36.000 So this was all just a potential deal that was going to come through.

00:02:39.000 It ended up not happening.

00:02:41.000 And it's an idea that we still have and we still are going to do around trying to empower parents to be able to withdraw from public schools to effectively teach their children or their grandchildren, their niece or their nephew, around basic civics, non-corrupted, uncorrupted science, I should say, American education, almost none of which is happening in our schools.

00:03:09.000 Goes on to say that Charlie Kirk, the 28-year-old activist who boasts 1.7 million Twitter followers, has championed former Donald Trump's baseless claims that widespread fraud costs in the election and has scorned demands for racial justice.

00:03:23.000 Oh, is that what we call it now?

00:03:25.000 Called burning the entire country racial justice. 0.99

00:03:28.000 Followed the 2020 murder of a black man at the hands of Minneapolis police calling George Floyd a scumbag. 1.00

00:03:33.000 He was a scumbag. 1.00

00:03:35.000 I stand by that. 1.00

00:03:36.000 At least they quote me accurately.

00:03:37.000 Here's the point: is that with all the problems in the country, why is it the Washington Post is dedicating multiple pages of an investigation into a school, an online school that didn't even happen that we were going to do?

00:03:49.000 And the answer is very clear: that we are really close to the target with the work we're doing at Turning Point USA, and we are going to pull this off.

00:03:55.000 Make no mistake, we're going to figure it out.

00:03:58.000 We're going to figure out the best way to do online education slash homeschooling slash pod schooling and empower millions of parents that are not happy with public education.

00:04:08.000 And that right there, according to the Washington Post, is a bigger threat than the border, drug overdose, and the inexplicable 40% in death increase for ages 18 to 64.

00:04:20.000 But when you think about it, it actually does make sense.

00:04:23.000 Once this ends up being successful, which we are going to do, and we're going to involve partners, many of which you've heard on this show, that right there is a backbreaker.

00:04:34.000 It is a game changer for the people in charge of our country.

00:04:39.000 If you are actually able to disrupt public education as we know it, then all of a sudden Randy Whitgarten is way less powerful.

00:04:49.000 It's nothing more than a clickbaity, nonsensical article, but don't worry.

00:04:53.000 We're going to get this figured out.

00:04:55.000 We're going to get this done.

00:04:57.000 It's going to be big.

00:04:58.000 We're going to empower millions of parents along the way.

00:05:00.000 Okay, next story here.

00:05:02.000 Pelosi, this is an unbelievable story.

00:05:05.000 Pelosi's Capitol Police tried to sneak into Republican congressmen's office, dressed as construction workers, and illegally took photos of legislative documents.

00:05:15.000 Speaker Nancy Pelosi's Capitol Police are alleging to have illegally entered the office of Congressman Troy Nels, photographing confidential legislative products and grilling staff according to reports.

00:05:25.000 The police, now under formal investigation, stand accused of dressing up as construction workers and attempting another entry just two days later.

00:05:33.000 So, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Nixon get impeached for lying about something very similar to this?

00:05:39.000 But it wasn't even as flagrant as this.

00:05:42.000 So there's so much here that needs to be investigated.

00:05:45.000 Pelosi's, I guess this is the closest Pelosi you'll ever get towards loving construction workers, right?

00:05:50.000 Like, yeah, go to the local Halloween store and go dress up as construction people.

00:05:55.000 So this sitting member of Congress, Troy Nels from Texas, is alleging that Nancy Pelosi and Democrats have made Capitol Police go dress up in costume as construction workers to go into Capitol offices and to go take pictures of documents.

00:06:20.000 Reports suggest that Capitol Police have built intelligence dossiers on those illegally investigated.

00:06:28.000 The documents photographed, say Nels, quote, are protected by the speech and debate clause enshrined in the Constitution, Article 1, Section 6.

00:06:36.000 Nels took to Twitter to explain the multiple incidents.

00:06:39.000 Again, I'm going to read directly from his tweets because these are some pretty serious allegations.

00:06:43.000 Breaking.

00:06:44.000 Capitol Police Intelligence Division investigated my office illegally, and one of my staff first caught them in the act.

00:06:52.000 On November 20th, Capitol Police entered my office without my knowledge and photographed confidential legislative products protected by the speech and debate clause enshrined in Constitution, Article 1, Section 6.

00:07:02.000 Two days later, on Monday, November 22nd, Thanksgiving Week, three intelligence officers attempted to enter my office while the house was in recess.

00:07:10.000 Upon discovering a member of my staff, special agents dressed like construction workers began to question him as the contents of a photograph taken illegally two days earlier.

00:07:20.000 They had no authority to photograph my office, let alone investigate myself or members of my staff.

00:07:25.000 So why is Capitol Police leadership maliciously investigating me as an attempt to destroy me and my character?

00:07:32.000 Maybe it is because I've been a vocal critic of Speaker Pelosi in the January 6th Committee and Capitol Police leadership and their handling of January 6th, the death of Ashley Babbitt and the subsequent, quote, sham investigation.

00:07:46.000 So the head of Capitol Police is a person by Yoga Nanda.

00:07:51.000 That's right, Yogananda.

00:07:52.000 Okay, we got it.

00:07:53.000 Yogananda Pittman was appointed as the acting chief of Capitol Police.

00:07:57.000 I'm reading, by the way, from, I think this is National Pulse, is that right?

00:08:01.000 Good website, nationalpulse.com, the nationalpulse.com.

00:08:04.000 Pittman is responsible for, quote, operations concerning the safety and security of the U.S. Capitol.

00:08:10.000 Goes deeper.

00:08:12.000 Capitol Police Chief Thomas Menger confirmed the Inspector General has now opened an investigation after receiving multiple congressional inquiries into the Capitol Police tactics.

00:08:24.000 Such tactics include a deep examination of the social media feeds of individuals who have not been suspected of any criminal activity.

00:08:32.000 Yet there's no Inspector General report that I'm aware of that's meaningful or any sort of investigation by Capitol Police as to why Lieutenant Bird shot Ashley Babbitt in the face on January 6th.

00:08:45.000 This entire story kind of honestly provokes more questions than answers.

00:08:50.000 And the questions are on both sides.

00:08:52.000 I'm going to be very honest.

00:08:53.000 The question is also, what is Congressman Nels worried they're taking pictures of?

00:08:57.000 I'm just going to say that's kind of a thing.

00:09:00.000 I think that's part of the, I think that's going to be part of the story.

00:09:02.000 I'm not saying there's anything wrong.

00:09:04.000 It's one of two things.

00:09:05.000 Either Congressman Nels has like been cross-dressing or something, which I don't think he's, I don't know the guy.

00:09:09.000 He sounds like a nice person.

00:09:11.000 Or he has something really, really threatening to the regime and the January 6th committee they're taking pictures of.

00:09:18.000 I think that's more likely, right?

00:09:20.000 I think it's more likely that Congressman Nels, who again, I don't know, has something that Pelosi finds to be so threatening, she has to send the Capitol Police to illegally enter the office of another congressman and photographing confidential legislative products and grilling staff and dressing them like construction workers, which is like the most bizarre part of all this.

00:09:42.000 That's exactly right.

00:09:43.000 This could be maybe he has dirt on Kinzinger or Cheney.

00:09:46.000 This sounds a lot like Watergate, by the way.

00:09:49.000 And in Watergate, they didn't go to the hassle of dressing up like construction workers.

00:09:53.000 Okay, let's get to some sound here.

00:09:55.000 I'm going to the border tomorrow, and I do not say this lightly.

00:10:00.000 This woman is either pretending or is legitimately possessed by a demon. 0.99

00:10:08.000 I mean, if you think this is just a material war, you're sadly mistaken.

00:10:12.000 Play cut 29.

00:10:15.000 Get it closed.

00:10:16.000 Stay right there before we move.

00:10:21.000 Hey, calm down.

00:10:22.000 Calm down.

00:10:23.000 Calm down.

00:10:27.000 Back up.

00:10:29.000 Get your curtains down in there. 0.99

00:10:31.000 Ma'am, damn, we're going to have to tase you. 1.00

00:10:33.000 You're not going to let me. 0.99

00:10:37.000 I don't know if she's pretending.

00:10:39.000 What do you think?

00:10:40.000 There's a spiritual component to trafficking human beings.

00:10:42.000 She's a human trafficker. 1.00

00:10:44.000 She traffics young girls so that they can unfortunately get raped along the way across the southern border. 0.98

00:10:50.000 It's a massive humanitarian crisis happening in our country.

00:10:55.000 I'm going straight to the front lines tomorrow.

00:10:56.000 We'll be on the border.

00:10:58.000 Producer Andrew's filling in on the show tomorrow.

00:11:00.000 And then Thursday, I'm going to have a lot to share kind of from our experience on the board.

00:11:03.000 I've been down to the border multiple times.

00:11:05.000 It's not my first time.

00:11:07.000 I'm going to a sector that I've never been to before.

00:11:09.000 And we're going to see it firsthand.

00:11:11.000 We're going to see firsthand what's happening on the southern border, the drugs flowing across, the guns, the crime.

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00:12:33.000 So with us right now is someone very special.

00:12:35.000 She does a great job for the New York Post and she has fled New York for Florida.

00:12:40.000 Can't wait to ask her about that.

00:12:41.000 Carol Markowitz, Carol, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:12:44.000 Thank you for having me, Charlie.

00:12:46.000 You are a legend.

00:12:47.000 So tell us, Carol, why did you move down to Florida?

00:12:50.000 Why'd you flee New York?

00:12:51.000 It's so nice.

00:12:52.000 It is.

00:12:54.000 So I'm a lifelong New Yorker.

00:12:55.000 So right off the bat, I'm not somebody who hates New York.

00:13:00.000 I know New York gets a lot of conservative hate, but I kind of always enjoyed being a New Yorker, a lifelong conservative.

00:13:08.000 I was born in the Soviet Union.

00:13:10.000 So I never really had a problem being open about my conservative beliefs.

00:13:14.000 The Russian community in Brooklyn, it's not just Russians, but it's sort of shorthand.

00:13:18.000 We call ourselves a Russian community, is very conservative.

00:13:22.000 And so I always had sort of my community and my world in New York that was normal and sane.

00:13:31.000 And it didn't bother me so much that there were so many crazy things going on around New York City because my world was very much like I wanted it to be.

00:13:42.000 And the Giuliani years followed by the Mike Bloomberg years really made New York a wonderful place to live.

00:13:48.000 And my husband, who's also a lifelong New Yorker, we were planning to raise our kids in Brooklyn.

00:13:54.000 The long-term plan was they were going to go to college.

00:13:56.000 We were going to retire to Manhattan.

00:13:58.000 We had it all figured out.

00:14:00.000 And then COVID hits.

00:14:02.000 And suddenly, my little world, while they're still sane and thinking that everything's okay, is suddenly not allowed to live how they want to live.

00:14:11.000 Now, businesses close whenever the government says so.

00:14:15.000 Schools close indefinitely and very few people speak up about it.

00:14:20.000 Masking of children goes on indefinitely, even though, you know, as we've learned in the last few days, there's really no reason for it.

00:14:28.000 I mean, obviously, you and I and lots of other people knew all along, but as Democrats have discovered in the last few days that maybe masking children was pointless and they finally are facing that fact.

00:14:38.000 So I love New York.

00:14:41.000 I've always loved New York, but it became increasingly a crazy place to be and a crazy place to raise kids.

00:14:49.000 And I couldn't do that to my three children anymore.

00:14:52.000 So you have to explain something to me.

00:14:53.000 You're a lifelong New Yorker.

00:14:54.000 I used to love New York.

00:14:55.000 Now I can't even go to a restaurant because I won't get vaccinated.

00:14:59.000 So it's changed a lot.

00:15:00.000 Can you explain the psychology of a New Yorker versus a Floridian?

00:15:04.000 And I mean that in the sense of, not just from the mask mandates, but it seems what is it about New York, which I always consider to be this tough guy city.

00:15:14.000 We're going to wear it on our sleeve.

00:15:16.000 You know, we were able to persevere through 9-11.

00:15:19.000 It was amazing what the city did to all of a sudden becoming this fear-filled, you know, epicenter.

00:15:26.000 And then Florida, the state that you would think would be super risk-averse, where you have people that are really worried that their golf cart lights are going to go out in the villages or whatever.

00:15:33.000 It's a concern.

00:15:34.000 Yes, help, like unpack the psych.

00:15:37.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:15:37.000 Hugely concerned.

00:15:38.000 Unpack the psychological difference between a Floridian and a New Yorker.

00:15:41.000 And I know we're using generalities, but it's generally true. 0.96

00:15:44.000 So please help me with that.

00:15:45.000 Right.

00:15:45.000 No, and I feel like I have the answer to that, too.

00:15:48.000 I really think that what happened here in New York was that COVID and woke culture collided at the same time.

00:15:57.000 It was right around the same time that cancel culture really hit its stride, we got COVID.

00:16:05.000 And suddenly you were worried about saying the wrong thing and your neighbor hearing you say the wrong thing or your coworkers finding out that you think masks are pointless or any number of things.

00:16:17.000 And I heard this over and over and over again.

00:16:21.000 And look, for a long time, I really did understand these people.

00:16:26.000 I thought, okay, I get it.

00:16:27.000 You can't speak up.

00:16:28.000 You're afraid for your job.

00:16:30.000 You're afraid for your like life.

00:16:31.000 You're afraid for not your life.

00:16:33.000 Nobody's going to come kill you, but you're afraid for to lose all your friends and to your community to hate you and all of this, because not everybody had this ex, you know, Soviet community that supports them like I had.

00:16:45.000 And I get that.

00:16:47.000 But what happened is, at least for me, is that the attack on children went on for so long that I could no longer forgive these people.

00:16:58.000 I thought, okay, I get it.

00:17:00.000 You don't want your boss to find out that you think that schools should open.

00:17:04.000 But now it's been six months and your kid has not been in school.

00:17:08.000 Now it's been a year.

00:17:08.000 Now it's been 18 months.

00:17:10.000 When are you going to speak up?

00:17:11.000 When are you going to speak up for your own kid?

00:17:13.000 And what was really terrible to me was that so many people, I lived in Park Slope, which is a super left area, super rich area.

00:17:22.000 Yeah, sure.

00:17:23.000 So many people, they got their kids tutors.

00:17:26.000 They got them pods.

00:17:28.000 They went to stay at their like Long Island vacation home and went, sent their kids to full-time school there.

00:17:34.000 They moved to stay with family in states where the schools were open.

00:17:37.000 They sent their kids to private schools when private schools finally opened and public schools didn't, but they didn't speak up for the rest of the people.

00:17:44.000 And I just felt like that was so particularly wrong from these people who marched for equity and said that they really cared about, you know, the underclass and anybody who's underprivileged.

00:17:56.000 And yet they did what they had to do for their kid and they kind of left everybody else behind.

00:18:01.000 They didn't say a word about any of it.

00:18:03.000 They didn't say, okay, I am now pulling my kid from public school and sending them to private school, which a lot of people did because private schools were open.

00:18:12.000 And I now support school vouchers to have everybody else be able to do the same thing as me.

00:18:17.000 No, they didn't do that.

00:18:19.000 They just sent their kids to private school or got them a pod or a tutor or whatever and left everybody else behind.

00:18:26.000 And that's not the New Yorkers I know.

00:18:28.000 Like you can be left, you can be liberal, but like the New Yorkers that I knew growing up might have been on the left, but they absolutely would stand up for their neighbors.

00:18:38.000 And what had shifted is that you were no longer allowed to speak up.

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00:20:04.000 That's a great description of it.

00:20:06.000 You had both the woke infiltration and then COVID, which was kind of a safetyist safetyism regime that was implemented.

00:20:13.000 Because I remember that in New York, too.

00:20:15.000 I mean, I remember it was America's city that was attacked by our enemies and came together.

00:20:22.000 And it was chapter of heroism after heroism that elected Rudy Giuliani as its mayor.

00:20:29.000 And you know, for all of his downfalls, Michael Bloomberg, you know, looks like a rabid right-winger compared to what we're dealing with.

00:20:36.000 Oh, yeah, right now.

00:20:37.000 Oh, yeah.

00:20:37.000 I mean, I would have Michael Bloomberg for another three terms if he wanted.

00:20:40.000 I totally agree.

00:20:42.000 No, I mean, I think I don't know if he's a wokey now, but he was unafraid to have more cops on the streets and he was pro-charter schools and he wanted the streets to be clean.

00:20:52.000 Yeah.

00:20:52.000 And it was just kind of, I'm going to put New York first and we love our city.

00:20:56.000 And it really is kind of, and you would, you'll definitely appreciate this.

00:21:00.000 Alexander Solshenitsyn said that it's really thanks to ideology, right?

00:21:04.000 I mean, it's a, and that's where I'm struggling.

00:21:07.000 And maybe you can unpack this for me, or maybe not, where, okay, Park Slope, it's really nice, right near Prospect Park, you know, it's right near Brooklyn.

00:21:15.000 You know, it's all the kind of stereotypical like Goldman Sachs people that take chauffeured cars, maybe the subway, not anymore, you know, to go work at the Wall Street firm, but you know, they're back by 6:30 or 7.

00:21:25.000 It's that kind of like it's the suburb, but not really of, you know, um, of New York.

00:21:31.000 I know the area really well.

00:21:32.000 But at what point are they all of us going to be like, yeah, we're actually living in a dystopia?

00:21:36.000 Like, I mean, I get the ideologues, I get the AOCs, but someone who might just be kind of like a Hillary Clinton liberal, okay, who went to Wellesley or, you know, went to Fordham and all of a sudden their daughter gets mugged.

00:21:50.000 I mean, when does the ideology ever get challenged?

00:21:54.000 You, you really would think that it would get challenged at that point, but I am still on all the Park Slope boards and it really doesn't because again, the woke thing has taken over everything.

00:22:04.000 So you get mugged.

00:22:05.000 It's, yeah, look, it's really bad you got mugged.

00:22:08.000 Sorry that happened to you.

00:22:09.000 But, you know, there are underprivileged people in this world.

00:22:12.000 And that really, you know, your wallet didn't really matter all that much to you, but might matter a lot to somebody else.

00:22:17.000 Now, you think I'm joking.

00:22:18.000 No, no, I'm not.

00:22:19.000 I actually am laughing because it's true.

00:22:20.000 I am not joking.

00:22:22.000 And, you know, one of the ones that for me really stuck out.

00:22:26.000 So summer 2020. 0.55

00:22:28.000 And this is a true story.

00:22:30.000 I wish I had kept screenshots because I was just, it was too much of a crazy time.

00:22:34.000 I did send this to a lot of people.

00:22:36.000 But it was a Facebook board, and there was a woman who was riding her bike in Park Slope and she's Asian. 0.51

00:22:45.000 And she said that this white older couple screamed racial epithets at her because she wasn't wearing a mask. 1.00

00:22:52.000 And it was like the perfect Park Slope like moment of like, which side do we take?

00:22:58.000 Are we anti-racist or are we pro-mask?

00:23:00.000 And so many were like, maybe you should have worn your mask, you know?

00:23:04.000 And it was like, are you serious?

00:23:06.000 This woman's telling you that she got yelled at. 1.00

00:23:08.000 She was by herself on her bicycle.

00:23:10.000 And, you know, and it was also the stop Asian hate moment, right?

00:23:13.000 It was we weren't supposed to talk about that China did this thing and it was being tied to these attacks on Asian Americans in this country, which believe me, as somebody who was a Russian kid growing up in the 80s, I don't approve of in America in the 80s.

00:23:27.000 And I get that, you know, there's a huge division between what China did and Asian Americans in America, but how come we couldn't stand up for this Asian woman who wasn't wearing a mask because she was yelled at by these masters and these parks openers could not decide which side they should be on.

00:23:42.000 It was amazing.

00:23:44.000 Well, it's just like when everyone got super confused when Dave Chappelle went after, you know, the alphabet mafia.

00:23:49.000 They're like, oh, no, he can't do it. 1.00

00:23:50.000 Like, he's a black person. 1.00

00:23:51.000 Is he allowed to do that? 0.97

00:23:52.000 Or it's like when Kyrie Irving was like, yeah, I'm not getting vaccinated. 0.90

00:23:56.000 Like, you're a racist.

00:23:57.000 Like, yeah, he's kind of a leader of a BLM thing. 0.93

00:24:01.000 It's the ever-changing hierarchy of leftist wants, needs, and concerns.

00:24:05.000 So just talk about you basically just left your home. 0.95

00:24:09.000 I mean, a Russian community.

00:24:11.000 I'm in South Florida and it's amazing.

00:24:15.000 My kids have not seen their masks since the day our plane landed here.

00:24:19.000 Literally, I don't know where the masks are.

00:24:21.000 They go to school every day.

00:24:22.000 It is so beautiful and so sane.

00:24:25.000 I credit a lot of it to Governor Ron DeSantis.

00:24:28.000 I think a leader like him really kind of made his path, showing people the way back to normal.

00:24:36.000 But I always say this, you can't move to another state for a politician.

00:24:40.000 Anything could happen, right?

00:24:41.000 He could, you know, lose the next election, which I hope doesn't happen.

00:24:44.000 He could run for president.

00:24:45.000 I mean, any number of things potentially could happen and take this great leader out of your life anyway.

00:24:51.000 So you can't move for a politician.

00:24:53.000 So I always say I moved because the Floridians showed me that they wanted normal, that they wanted to put kids first.

00:25:00.000 And I see that every single day in my neighbors and the friends I've made here and the community here.

00:25:04.000 It's really, really stained.

00:25:06.000 It's the people. 0.99

00:25:07.000 I totally agree.

00:25:08.000 It's a different mindset.

00:25:10.000 And if you think about it, this is what's so interesting.

00:25:13.000 New York is substantially younger than the average Floridian.

00:25:18.000 Yet the average Floridian is less afraid of a virus that they're actually at greater risk from.

00:25:26.000 That's right.

00:25:27.000 You have an average 35-year-old weirdo that went to NYU that is triple vax and quadruple vaxx.

00:25:33.000 Well, I won't hold that against you.

00:25:35.000 And then you have like an 84-year-old guy in Boca Raton, and he's like, I'm just going to love life.

00:25:43.000 You would think it would be the other way around.

00:25:45.000 You would think that New York, where's the Woodstock energy?

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00:26:53.000 Is it true that your handle is at Carol on Twitter?

00:26:55.000 Is that right?

00:26:56.000 That's right.

00:26:57.000 Would you get Twitter in like 2001 or something?

00:27:00.000 No, I really wasn't even that early an adopter with the Twitter.

00:27:03.000 I thought it wasn't going to catch on.

00:27:04.000 Whoops.

00:27:06.000 But no, there was a time where you could just like email Twitter and say, hey, like, I see nobody's using this handle.

00:27:13.000 You know, I see that they have it, but they don't use it.

00:27:15.000 And they'd be like, yeah, sure, take it.

00:27:15.000 Can I have it?

00:27:17.000 What a different world.

00:27:19.000 It's amazing.

00:27:20.000 Yeah.

00:27:20.000 Now, now they would kick you out for such a thing.

00:27:22.000 Now they would never respond.

00:27:23.000 There's no email.

00:27:24.000 There's no ever.

00:27:26.000 No, it's the black abyss.

00:27:28.000 It's almost like it's a pullet bureau.

00:27:30.000 So, okay, tell us, moms and dads are listening across the country.

00:27:33.000 We talked about New York.

00:27:34.000 Let's nationalize this.

00:27:36.000 You're a mom.

00:27:36.000 You're a parent.

00:27:37.000 You move state to state.

00:27:38.000 Let me ask you two questions.

00:27:39.000 When do you move?

00:27:40.000 When do you draw the line?

00:27:41.000 When's the parent trigger?

00:27:43.000 And if not, then what do you demand for?

00:27:45.000 Yeah.

00:27:46.000 So for me, it was, I saw no end to the insanity.

00:27:50.000 There was no normal.

00:27:52.000 There was no light at the end of the tunnel.

00:27:54.000 Even now, all these governors are like, we're going to drop the mask mandates.

00:27:57.000 And some of them are even talking about schools.

00:27:59.000 And, you know, they remember that kids exist in their states.

00:28:02.000 We're very few of them.

00:28:03.000 Gavin Newsom, for example, obviously is not lifting anything for schools.

00:28:07.000 But New York is still kind of caught in this, not sure what they're going to do ever about anything.

00:28:13.000 So for me, it was like I couldn't do this to my kids anymore.

00:28:16.000 I needed to get them out.

00:28:17.000 And I know I get emails all the time.

00:28:19.000 It's funny because people say to me, like, why do you talk so much about moving to Florida?

00:28:22.000 I get these, you know, nasty comments sometimes, but I can't explain what an avalanche of mail I got over this.

00:28:30.000 And people saying to me, where should I go?

00:28:32.000 I also want to leave.

00:28:33.000 And it's not always New York.

00:28:34.000 I get mail from all over the country.

00:28:36.000 People saying, I can't take this anymore.

00:28:38.000 I have to get out of here.

00:28:39.000 I have to go somewhere sane.

00:28:41.000 So I think everybody has their own kind of barometer for when they can't take it anymore.

00:28:47.000 And I think you have to put your kids first.

00:28:50.000 You have to give them the life that they were promised, which was just a normal, sane life.

00:28:55.000 Little things like I mentioned this on Twitter a few days ago, but like my son's school in Florida has a book fair next week while their grandparents happen to be in town.

00:29:04.000 So my mother-in-law is going to take my sons to their book fair at their school.

00:29:08.000 I don't know if that happens in 2030 in New York.

00:29:10.000 And I'm not even kidding.

00:29:11.000 Like it's just, it's not even on the horizon.

00:29:14.000 It's like not even in the discussion that parents will be allowed into the school building.

00:29:20.000 And this will all be maskless, but even masks, forget about it.

00:29:22.000 Like fine, mask.

00:29:24.000 That's not happening in a lot of these blue areas for a really long time.

00:29:27.000 So the used car salesman that barely won the election in New Jersey, who calls himself a governor, Phil Murphy, who missed his calling being a wannabe Soprano actor.

00:29:38.000 So he said he's, let's play Cut 51.

00:29:40.000 He announced lifting the mask mandate, Play Cut 51.

00:29:44.000 There's no question that masking in our schools since the beginning of the school year has been a very smart public health step.

00:29:53.000 I think we've had just over 2,600 cases of students with COVID positive since the beginning of the school year.

00:30:02.000 That's out of 1.4 million kids.

00:30:06.000 So it's a pretty stark piece of evidence, I think, that this has absolutely worked.

00:30:13.000 But that's not enough, is it?

00:30:15.000 Yeah, no.

00:30:16.000 I mean, the fact that he has absolutely no evidence, there's no question, but there's actually also just no data on this.

00:30:23.000 Masks in school have been a complete failure.

00:30:25.000 I think that we can look to a lot of European countries where they never masked kids at all to see that we did not need to be masking kids in school.

00:30:33.000 I'm glad these governors are finally seeing the political writing on the wall.

00:30:38.000 We have to hold them accountable.

00:30:39.000 I'm a very even-keeled, calm person, but I'm very serious about this.

00:30:42.000 We cannot let them skate on what they did to us for the last two years because they will do it again and much, much sooner than you might believe.

00:30:50.000 We're going to have spikes again.

00:30:51.000 COVID is here to stay.

00:30:53.000 In the summer, we might see it in the South.

00:30:54.000 In the winter, we might see it back in the Northeast.

00:30:57.000 They're going to bring back masks unless we make them face the reality that masking was always pointless.

00:31:02.000 The cloth masks we wear, the surgical masks we wear, all pointless.

00:31:06.000 And the fact that they still will have this power over us should be deeply concerning to a lot of Americans.

00:31:12.000 They will continue to use this power against us.

00:31:15.000 They've had a taste of real power and there's no way of letting it go.

00:31:18.000 That's right.

00:31:18.000 And you know that your family lived it and they don't give up power lightly.

00:31:22.000 Carol Markowitz, thank you so much.

00:31:24.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:31:27.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:31:28.000 Email us your thoughts.

00:31:29.000 As always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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00:31:39.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - February 09, 2022

How COVID Killed New York City with Karol Markowicz

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