The Charlie Kirk Show - How Donald Trump Can Win and What You Can do to Help

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00:00:08.000 Hey, everybody, live to you from the front lines on the campaign to re-elect President Trump.

00:00:13.000 This speech I gave to over 500 young people and hundreds of voters in Texas recently.

00:00:20.000 You guys are going to love this conversation.

00:00:22.000 Did the parties switch?

00:00:24.000 Why is it that it seems as if we're using different terms when it comes to racism when we talk to the left, we talk about President Trump's chances and so much more.

00:00:33.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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00:00:56.000 We have an election to win, everybody.

00:00:58.000 Six days.

00:00:58.000 Do your part.

00:00:59.000 Buckle up.

00:01:00.000 Here we go.

00:01:01.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:01:03.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:01:05.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:08.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:12.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:13.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:14.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:01:16.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:22.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:31.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:34.000 Hey, everybody.

00:01:35.000 Awesome to be here.

00:01:37.000 Seven days to put all this together.

00:01:39.000 And we've been doing almost a new state every single day.

00:01:43.000 We did seven speeches over the weekend.

00:01:44.000 We're heading to Florida after this.

00:01:46.000 We'll be back in Texas.

00:01:47.000 And we're doing two podcasts a day, two hours of radio a day.

00:01:51.000 And there really is something special happening in this country.

00:01:54.000 I feel that we might be on the verge of the next great awakening.

00:01:57.000 And I mean that spiritually.

00:01:59.000 I mean that politically.

00:02:00.000 I see people that are wanting to recommit their activism, their time, their energy, their resources to this unbelievable gift that we have been given.

00:02:11.000 And that's what this country is, is that we've been given a gift.

00:02:14.000 As mentioned, we've made plenty of mistakes in our country's past, but America is not a mistake.

00:02:19.000 This country that we have been given is the most benevolent, charitable, forward-thinking, generous, open-minded country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:02:27.000 And this country, thank you, it's true.

00:02:30.000 And this country will, this country will survive or disintegrate based solely on our ability to communicate our values to the next generation.

00:02:41.000 It's that simple.

00:02:42.000 And with us tonight are many Turning Point USA chapter leaders.

00:02:46.000 In fact, I think we have some from Highland Park High School.

00:02:48.000 Stand up, Turning Point USA chapter leaders.

00:02:52.000 Thank you guys for being here tonight.

00:02:53.000 Give it up for our young freedom fighters.

00:02:57.000 Thank you guys.

00:02:59.000 And so I want to talk about a couple things tonight.

00:03:02.000 I'm sure all of you want to know about the election and we can get into that.

00:03:06.000 We'll take some questions on it.

00:03:07.000 But first, I want to just kind of establish the framework of something a lot bigger than just the election.

00:03:13.000 Because if President Trump wins, and I hope he does, a lot of these problems are not going away.

00:03:18.000 If President Trump wins, there will only be so many more elections that we can survive narrowly with an ever-growing generation that does not have gratitude to live in this country.

00:03:28.000 According to Gallup, only 43% of my generation thinks that America is a good country.

00:03:35.000 It's not sustainable.

00:03:36.000 The country cannot survive if the younger generation with the energy and the ambition, the entrepreneurial spirit has lost complete and total faith in this gift that we have been given.

00:03:47.000 And so what we do at Turning Point USA through digital social media, through going on campuses, high school campuses, is our job is very simple.

00:03:55.000 We want our kids to love America again.

00:03:58.000 We want to teach the next generation why this country is different, why we are exceptional.

00:04:03.000 So we've done a very poor job of that over the last couple decades.

00:04:06.000 We acted as if it was automatic.

00:04:09.000 I was born in 1993.

00:04:12.000 A couple years before that, the Berlin Wall fell.

00:04:16.000 And a lot of parents in the 1990s, after that wall fell, I think consciously or subconsciously thought with that the fight against collectivist Marxist ideas was over.

00:04:26.000 And with that, the 1990s, we saw record prosperity, growth, incredible amounts of abundance, spreading of entrepreneurial activity, likes of which our country has never seen before.

00:04:40.000 And with that, a lot of people in this country, primarily my parents' generation, we kind of allowed the left to take over many of our core institutions in our country.

00:04:50.000 And now we are seeing what has happened as a byproduct of that.

00:04:55.000 And one of the things that frustrates me the most when I go to these university campuses is I'm not even talking about conservative versus liberal.

00:05:03.000 I have to first convince young people that this country is not awful.

00:05:08.000 My basis point, my starting point is trying to convince young people that this country was not founded on slavery, instead it was founded on freedom, that this country has a heroic story to be told, that this country was built by titans, by forward-thinking individuals, by heroes.

00:05:25.000 And that's where we must start.

00:05:27.000 And so let's just start there.

00:05:29.000 In the last couple months, we have had an unrelenting campaign by mass media, social media, by the most powerful people in our country to convince you that we live in an awful country.

00:05:39.000 The first thing that they say is that this country was founded in 1619, not in 1776.

00:05:44.000 Whether you know it or not, many of your children are being taught this in public schools across the country.

00:05:48.000 It's called the 1619 Project by Nicole Hanna-Jones.

00:05:52.000 Let me be very clear. 0.97

00:05:53.000 Nicole Hanna-Jones produced a pile of garbage when she is teaching her children. 0.98

00:05:59.000 It is completely and totally untrue. 0.78

00:06:01.000 There was something special that happened in 1776.

00:06:04.000 When our Declaration of Independence was written, it was our birth certificate, but there was no guarantee it was going to be our birth certificate.

00:06:11.000 It very well could have been our death certificate.

00:06:14.000 It was one of the most uncertain documents ever written on the history of the planet.

00:06:18.000 It starts with when in the course of human events, it becomes necessary to dissolve ties.

00:06:23.000 What were they really talking about?

00:06:24.000 They were telling King George, you're not in control.

00:06:27.000 They were saying that our rights don't come from King George or from government, but they come from God.

00:06:31.000 This document that, quite honestly, has kind of been cast aside in the communication of the history of our children was such an unbelievable leap forward for humanity where it mentions God four times.

00:06:44.000 51 out of 55 signers of the Declaration of Independence were Bible-believing, regular attending Christians.

00:06:50.000 It was the first great awakening in our country that started the philosophical framework that allowed this document to even be conceptualized.

00:06:58.000 But the most amazing part about the Declaration of Independence was not even the boldness or the courage, but it was the uncertainty.

00:07:07.000 It was that the people that signed it had no idea what came next.

00:07:11.000 It was a declaration that very well could have been, as I mentioned, the death sentence.

00:07:15.000 What came after, of course, is a bloody revolution that we won.

00:07:18.000 And then the question is, what do you do?

00:07:20.000 What kind of government do you create?

00:07:22.000 Well, our founders very well could have created the Washingtonian, Franklin, Jeffersonian ruling class.

00:07:27.000 They could have divided the states up for themselves.

00:07:29.000 They could have become kings and queens and monarchs because that's all human history knew for the past 1,500 years with maybe a couple little blips of the radar of small little democratic experiments.

00:07:40.000 The founding fathers were the first group of people to win a war and then give up power.

00:07:44.000 It's never happened before.

00:07:46.000 You win a war, usually keep the power.

00:07:47.000 You sacrifice everything.

00:07:48.000 Usually you want to keep the spoils for yourself.

00:07:51.000 They went so far in the United States Constitution to reject this idea that in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 4 of the United States Constitution, it says that bloodline and titles of nobility will be rejected in this new country and this republic.

00:08:05.000 We are the longest-lasting, longest-standing country ever to exist to have the same framework from our founding to where we are today.

00:08:13.000 Why?

00:08:14.000 In France, they change their constitution every other month.

00:08:17.000 In every single banana republic, they're always going through another constitutional crisis.

00:08:21.000 Why is it that the words that were theorized and written in 87 and 91 when it was ratified, the Bill of Rights was random, why does it stead the test of time?

00:08:31.000 Because the Constitution was not written for the times.

00:08:33.000 It was written to stand the test of time because it took human nature as a constant.

00:08:39.000 It said that human beings naturally want to gain as much power as possible.

00:08:45.000 That human beings want to centralize their authority over others.

00:08:51.000 And we have to do everything we possibly can to make sure that tyrannical, charismatic, and quite honestly, misleading people do not use that power and abuse it.

00:09:01.000 So that's where we came up with the idea of checks and balances, which was derived from Montesquieu.

00:09:05.000 That's where they came up with the idea of freedom of assembly and Second Amendment rights.

00:09:08.000 But what's so amazing about the United States Constitution, it's not rules for you.

00:09:12.000 It's first and foremost rules for our government.

00:09:15.000 It's what the government cannot do to you.

00:09:17.000 It's recognizing that the government is the greatest abuser, first and foremost, of human liberties and freedoms.

00:09:24.000 That people deserve the right to be free because that's how we were born and that's how we were made in what?

00:09:30.000 The image of God, a uniquely American idea.

00:09:33.000 Now, people say we are founded on slavery. 1.00

00:09:35.000 This is rubbish. 0.99

00:09:36.000 It's not true. 0.89

00:09:37.000 In the United States Constitution, 20 years after the ratification, it put a sunset clause saying that the importation of new slaves into the United States will not be allowed.

00:09:48.000 Thomas Jefferson, the third American president, being a slave owner himself in 1807, had a real big moment.

00:09:54.000 Will I actually sign the abolition of new slaves coming to the U.S. or no? 0.75

00:09:58.000 And he did.

00:09:59.000 Highly complex, very complicated man, but he did a moral good for our country.

00:10:05.000 And we do a disservice to our young people not to communicate people that were wrestling with the times and did something good for humanity.

00:10:12.000 Yet we're taking down statues of Thomas Jefferson.

00:10:14.000 University of Virginia is trying to abolish him from their entire history.

00:10:17.000 That man was a hero for our country.

00:10:19.000 He created the framework for everything that we enjoy today.

00:10:22.000 George Washington said no new slaves in Northwest Territories.

00:10:25.000 Vermont abolished slavery one year after the Declaration was ratified in 1776.

00:10:29.000 In 1777, they abolished slavery.

00:10:33.000 The question should never be whether or not a civilization had slavery.

00:10:38.000 The question should be, did you get rid of it and why?

00:10:41.000 Every single civilization prior to America had human ownership of human beings.

00:10:45.000 Everyone.

00:10:46.000 It's a brutal truth.

00:10:48.000 The question should be then, why did you get rid of it and how?

00:10:52.000 And of course, it was a bloody civil war.

00:10:54.000 There was a conflict.

00:10:56.000 Despite all of that, our union stayed together and we abolished the unspeakable sin of slavery.

00:11:02.000 Before we get on our moral high horse and we act as if we've actually abolished slavery worldwide, there's more slaves on the planet today than there were back then.

00:11:09.000 Let's go to the Horn of Africa or go to the Middle East or look at the sex trafficking happened all throughout Central and South America.

00:11:16.000 More people have found more opportunity thanks to the American Enlightenment ideas, more so than any other philosophical framework in the history of the planet.

00:11:24.000 This country has produced more wealth, more opportunity for more people of any single skin color imaginable than any other experiment.

00:11:33.000 The question is, why all of a sudden are we trying to stop it? 0.99

00:11:36.000 Why is it the country that has more Nobel Prizes than any other country, more gold medals, first to the moon, first to space, first to the moon, first to flight, open heart surgery, brain surgery, more medical innovations?

00:11:50.000 Why is it this country founded on the American trinity of in God we trust liberty and e pluribus unim, why all of a sudden are we trying to go the other direction and almost entertain an American suicide?

00:12:00.000 Why are we doing this?

00:12:01.000 And the reason is very simple.

00:12:03.000 Because as we have removed a moral backing from our country and we had more abundance than we could ever possibly imagine, all of a sudden liberty breeds apathy.

00:12:14.000 And when you have liberty, there will inevitably be inequality.

00:12:17.000 It's impossible to have liberty without inequality.

00:12:19.000 Some people will work harder.

00:12:20.000 Some people will apply themselves better.

00:12:22.000 Some people will make good choices.

00:12:23.000 Some people will make bad choices.

00:12:24.000 With that, you'll have unequal outcomes.

00:12:26.000 The question is, what do you do about it?

00:12:28.000 Well, when you have unequal outcomes, certain people then are going to try to use demagoguery, division, and class warfare to try to attain power.

00:12:36.000 And so over the last couple decades, we removed the moral backing from our country.

00:12:40.000 We have become more secular, more removed from moral teaching, more godless.

00:12:45.000 Yet, we have more devices that allow it easier than ever for us to indulge in things that do not make us more prosperous, more happy, or more content.

00:12:53.000 I'm talking about the supercomputers that all of you have in your right-hand pocket.

00:12:57.000 So now we have a generation in our country that can have anything they want at any time at instant notice, and they're the most miserable generation in American history.

00:13:06.000 They have more stuff, more opportunity, more capacity information, yet they are the most suicidal, most depressed, most anxious, least happy generation ever.

00:13:16.000 How did that happen?

00:13:18.000 It's because liberty only works if you know how to handle liberty.

00:13:23.000 It's a very interesting point that I, quite honestly, in the last six months, I've been wrestling with.

00:13:29.000 Because if you have unlimited liberty and you don't know how to handle it with abundance that goes with it, you'll soon be a slave to those devices and to those actions with it.

00:13:39.000 We made an unbelievable mistake in the last six months.

00:13:41.000 In fact, I've done a lot of research on this.

00:13:43.000 The lockdowns will go down as one of the worst decisions ever made in the history of our country, bar none.

00:13:48.000 The lockdowns, they are.

00:13:54.000 The lockdowns.

00:13:57.000 We need to say it so it'll never happen again.

00:14:00.000 I'm going to say some things that some people might deem controversial, but whatever.

00:14:06.000 The lockdowns are a luxury of the rich.

00:14:10.000 If you have money, you can survive a lockdown.

00:14:12.000 If you don't, you have to fight and barely get by.

00:14:16.000 Every metric we have for a declining society is up.

00:14:20.000 Every metric.

00:14:21.000 Because of these lockdowns, 150 million more people worldwide will go into extreme poverty.

00:14:26.000 150 million people worldwide because we decided to shut off global supply chains, shut off the movement of people, goods, and services.

00:14:36.000 15,000 scientists just signed the Barrington Declaration that said the lockdowns are the greatest threat to human health.

00:14:44.000 They say it's all about safety and health.

00:14:46.000 The lockdowns are hurting people.

00:14:47.000 These are not victimless crimes.

00:14:49.000 We tried to kill a mouse with a missile and we did not adapt as we moved on.

00:14:53.000 The more we saw the data come in, the more we locked down our country.

00:14:56.000 All it did is delay the inevitable and also harm our young people.

00:15:00.000 One out of four of young people contemplated suicide in our country the last 90 days.

00:15:05.000 One out of four.

00:15:06.000 Antidepressant medication is up 600% in our country.

00:15:10.000 600%.

00:15:12.000 I can go through the numbers.

00:15:15.000 40% of U.S. adults reported struggling with mental health, up from 6% last year.

00:15:20.000 U.S. Army suicides have increased 30% during the pandemic compared to 2019.

00:15:26.000 The CDC, because of concerns about the Chinese coronavirus, estimated 41% of U.S. adults had delayed urgent medical care.

00:15:34.000 They didn't want to go to the hospital.

00:15:36.000 They thought they were going to get hurt.

00:15:37.000 How about small businesses?

00:15:38.000 Yelp, which all of you have used, say that 60% of their restaurants on their app will never reopen.

00:15:43.000 60%.

00:15:44.000 Who owns small businesses?

00:15:46.000 Who owns these restaurants?

00:15:47.000 All of you guys out here.

00:15:48.000 You guys know how hard it is.

00:15:49.000 You have to deal with the city, the local, the county government, convince people to come back in.

00:15:53.000 The backbone of the American entrepreneurial experiment are middle-class people taking a small risk that have five to 10 employees, and we crushed them.

00:16:03.000 And what happened to the ruling class in this country?

00:16:05.000 Jeff Bezos is richer than he ever has been.

00:16:09.000 The wealthy and the rich, God bless them, most of which have been able to survive this quite well.

00:16:16.000 It is the collectivist class that has been calling the shots in this country that hurt the little guy through these lockdowns.

00:16:24.000 And they say, well, it's to stop the spread.

00:16:26.000 That's a lie.

00:16:28.000 Never would you ever be able to stop the spread.

00:16:30.000 You're just delaying the inevitable.

00:16:32.000 You could temporarily slow it.

00:16:34.000 You could temporarily stunt it, but it gave people false confidence in something that actually hurt real human beings.

00:16:40.000 And how about our generation?

00:16:41.000 As I mentioned, 52% of my generation is now living at home with their parents, up from 37% last year, 52%.

00:16:49.000 Again, I'm not trying to attack people that are living at home with their parents.

00:16:53.000 Some people have no choice.

00:16:54.000 They have no financial choice.

00:16:56.000 So we have a generation that the average student loan debt per borrow is $31,000 per borrower, that then goes, graduates college with very little to any skill, most times.

00:17:08.000 And I'm happy to build out the whole college issue, to then enter a country where we tell them, just go work harder.

00:17:16.000 Go work harder.

00:17:17.000 I'm sorry, we shut down the country the last nine months.

00:17:20.000 And what we are playing with right now in Western society, if we do not fully reopen our economies and fully reopen our schools, will be irreparable damage to the backbone of our republic that will only give license to a socialist demagogue to get power.

00:17:38.000 The kind of intractable problems that we are starting to see pop up will pave the way in the next 18 months, next two years, for a younger version of Bernie Sanders to take power in our country, the likes of which we have never seen.

00:17:54.000 Because we wanted to, allegedly, protect health.

00:17:58.000 We wanted to do the right thing for safety and health.

00:18:01.000 And so what's really amazing to me about the whole lockdown, the whole lockdown issue, is how we tolerated the incredible and blatant hypocrisy of the people that were putting forth these orders.

00:18:14.000 We still, there are orders that say churches cannot open, yet BLM Incorporated is allowed to parade through the streets, no masks, no social distancing, all throughout the streets of our country.

00:18:23.000 Los Angeles Lakers celebration drew 15,000 people in the streets of LA, but if you have 25 people in your church, you risk total and complete arrest.

00:18:33.000 What was really the most telling moment of the last six to nine months of these lockdowns is something that is not a happy conclusion.

00:18:41.000 Human beings don't want to be free.

00:18:44.000 We don't.

00:18:45.000 Human beings, and I think JD said this, it was really well said.

00:18:49.000 Security, satisfaction, and significance.

00:18:53.000 That's what human beings want.

00:18:54.000 If you do not teach freedom to your young people and what it means, they won't demand it.

00:19:02.000 I have been incredibly let down by the lack of backlash from what we have done to ourselves the last six months.

00:19:09.000 Now, maybe there's going to be a pent-up backlash in the election.

00:19:12.000 I pray.

00:19:13.000 Maybe people are going to use this opportunity to vote, to express their values this way.

00:19:20.000 But the 210,000 small businesses that have gone under in the last six months, they're gone.

00:19:29.000 It's completely, they'll never open again.

00:19:33.000 In the state of California, we've lost more people to suicide than to the virus under the age of 35.

00:19:38.000 Suicide is up 200% in six counties in Tennessee, and most states will not publish their suicide data.

00:19:45.000 Most states are actually hiding their suicide data because it's so bad.

00:19:49.000 And just out of all the information we've been able to find, it is extraordinary.

00:19:54.000 So, what do we do about it?

00:19:55.000 Well, first, you have to admit we made a mistake, and we did.

00:19:58.000 And the next time people that make open-ended, declarative statements saying to trust the science, we should be very, very skeptical of these people because the left they say trust the science.

00:20:11.000 It's not true.

00:20:12.000 They want to trust the scientists that they like because there were plenty of scientists and doctors that were speaking out throughout this entire thing.

00:20:19.000 And so, what does this mean for where we are in America?

00:20:29.000 I want anyone over the age of 40 to think back where you were in your mid-20s.

00:20:34.000 You were working hard, hopefully, earning wealth, hopefully, seeing your life get a little materially better each year.

00:20:43.000 As you were seeing your life get a little materially better, you were gaining faith in the American system.

00:20:50.000 You were believing that if you worked hard and played by the rules, the system works for you.

00:20:58.000 An average 27-year-old in this country, if they graduate college, which only 59% of people that go to college graduate, the national graduation rate is 59%.

00:21:08.000 So, 41% that go to college drop out, 41%.

00:21:12.000 If they graduate, they have an average $37,000 per borrow, $32,000 to $37,000, depending on the region.

00:21:20.000 They graduate sometimes with a degree that has no application to the marketplace whatsoever.

00:21:28.000 And we stuff them into urban cities with a very, very high cost of living, where they are not building equity and they're not building, they're not taking out mortgages.

00:21:37.000 This is a generation that is the least likely to own property of any generation in American history.

00:21:43.000 It is the least married generation in American history.

00:21:45.000 We're on pace to have 500,000 less children next year than this year.

00:21:49.000 We're on the verge of a civilizational collapse, and no one wants to talk about it.

00:21:52.000 500,000 less children.

00:21:55.000 They're worried about overpopulation.

00:21:56.000 I'm worried about a civilizational collapse.

00:21:58.000 And all of a sudden, they're in Seattle and Portland, and their net worth is the same as when they're 28, as when they're 32, because 44% of college graduates in this country end up getting jobs that don't require a college degree.

00:22:12.000 So the question is, why'd they go at all?

00:22:14.000 I don't know.

00:22:15.000 I have certain guesses on that.

00:22:18.000 We can talk about that.

00:22:19.000 But then don't be surprised when the 32-year-old who's unmarried, doesn't have a mortgage, and $37,000 in debt and is working a minimum wage job all of a sudden thinks that the entire system does not work for them.

00:22:30.000 And that's exactly what's happening in our country that no one wants to talk about: the burning and the rioting, the looting, BLM Inc. is just a manifestation of economic anxiety held by a lot of middle-class young people in this country.

00:22:43.000 And Bernie Sanders had a complete and total incorrect application of what we're supposed to do about this.

00:22:49.000 However, he wasn't wrong in the observation.

00:22:51.000 He wasn't.

00:22:52.000 When you have a generation that is the most indebted, most urbanized generation in American history where they're renting, not owning, where they're not marrying, eventually that is a combustible group of people that is waiting for a revolution.

00:23:06.000 So what do we do about that?

00:23:07.000 We have to give young people the confidence in the American way of life.

00:23:11.000 That's what we have to do.

00:23:13.000 We have to get them to buy into this system again.

00:23:15.000 And that means ownership. 0.99

00:23:17.000 That means marriage. 0.80

00:23:18.000 That means responsibility.

00:23:19.000 And that also means we need a lot less people going to college in our country.

00:23:23.000 A lot.

00:23:24.000 We have way too many people going to college.

00:23:26.000 We need more carpenters, welders, HVAC police officers, firefighters, entrepreneurs, gap year, people that work with their hands than people that go to four-year universities to borrow money they don't have, to study things that don't matter, to find jobs that don't exist.

00:23:44.000 And I understand, I say the same thing here that I'll say, and I know that when you go to Highland Park, Texas, you do not touch the third rail of politics, which is higher education, but I'm going right in.

00:23:55.000 Because, and I'm not, I think college is wonderful if you want to be a lawyer, a doctor, if you want to get a skill.

00:24:01.000 We interview thousands of young people at Turning Point USA every single year.

00:24:04.000 My favorite question to ask is, what is your skill?

00:24:08.000 And sometimes they'll say, well, I went to TCU and I have political science degree.

00:24:13.000 I said, no, no, what's your skill?

00:24:16.000 And they said, I took all these classes.

00:24:18.000 I said, no, no, no, what can you do that my Turning Point USA leaders at Highland Park High School can't do?

00:24:23.000 Well, I took all these classes.

00:24:24.000 I said, I got that.

00:24:25.000 But what's your skill?

00:24:26.000 Now, when I hire a plumber, they come to the office.

00:24:30.000 I have a leak.

00:24:30.000 They say, I can fix that.

00:24:31.000 I say, you have a skill that they don't have and I don't have.

00:24:34.000 You're hired.

00:24:36.000 What's happened is that we have convinced ourselves that college is a necessary track towards success in this country.

00:24:44.000 And it's not.

00:24:45.000 It is for some people, but the obligatory path to go to Fourier University in this college, in this environment, has led to many of the problems that we're experiencing today.

00:24:56.000 We need a lot more people to go to community college.

00:24:58.000 We need a lot more people to take gap years.

00:25:00.000 We need a lot more people that maybe go get a technical degree and they don't go to university at all.

00:25:06.000 And the other part of this, and all of you know this, is if you send your kid to college, you're playing Russian roulette with their values.

00:25:13.000 And they may come back someone completely and totally different.

00:25:18.000 Now, if they survive, God bless America, right?

00:25:21.000 But where do you think the defund police Green New Deal, where do you think these ideas originate from?

00:25:27.000 What happens on college campuses did not say on college campuses.

00:25:31.000 It goes to the hall of Congress and eventually corporate boardrooms.

00:25:35.000 And I think that, and I grew up in this kind of environment in the suburbs of Chicago, there's an expectation that our most aspirational, the most qualified young people must go to Fourier University.

00:25:47.000 And for some people, that is the right path, but not for every person.

00:25:50.000 And I think we should ask our high school seniors, why are you going to college, not where are you going to college?

00:25:56.000 We need better reasons to go $80,000 into debt.

00:25:59.000 We need better reasons to go take North African lesbian poetry.

00:26:02.000 We need better reasons to go find yourself at a university.

00:26:11.000 Because, believe it or not, you can learn a lot outside of college.

00:26:16.000 In fact, I can tell you that I think things are finally being disrupted on this landscape.

00:26:22.000 And if I were trying to create a population of people that was ripe for a socialistic revolution, I would send them all to a place that they can't afford to believe in nothing, to be ungrateful for a country they live in, to acquire no skill, to stuff them into urban areas they can't afford, to be ready to be convinced for someone that will give a lot of promises to fix all of that, but will never deliver.

00:26:49.000 Now, I'm not saying it's all intentional, but if I was trying to do this, this is exactly what I would do.

00:26:56.000 And so what do we do?

00:26:57.000 Well, we have some, we talk about this quite often.

00:27:00.000 We need to dramatically expand the birth rate for people under the age of 35 in this country.

00:27:04.000 We need to make it easier to have children.

00:27:06.000 I'm a conservative and I believe in paid family leave.

00:27:08.000 I do.

00:27:08.000 I think that we need to make it easier to have children in this country.

00:27:10.000 It's too expensive to have children in America.

00:27:13.000 And the birth rates in America are so incredibly alarming that if we do not, 500,000 less children next year should be a fire alarm for our civilization.

00:27:25.000 Also, I think that we need to teach our children, and this kind of ties back to what I started with, that we don't live in an awful country.

00:27:34.000 Because I think when you, when I grew up in the 1990s and early 2000s, my parents always used to tell me that I was the problem and America was awesome.

00:27:45.000 Now we tell our young people that you're awesome and America's the problem.

00:27:50.000 And what higher education should be, but it isn't, is teasing young people that maybe there is truth and goodness out there.

00:28:00.000 And let's go on a journey together to try and find it.

00:28:04.000 Let's read the great books.

00:28:05.000 Let's hear from the great lecturers.

00:28:07.000 Let's dive deep into history and maybe we can find truth, beauty, and goodness.

00:28:12.000 What happens at almost every university across the country is the exact opposite, is they say there is no such thing as absolute truth.

00:28:19.000 Beauty is something that is completely subjective.

00:28:24.000 And I'm going to teach you how to become an expert complainer.

00:28:30.000 We create a nation of victims, not victors, and you can see exactly where that ends.

00:28:35.000 I'm going to take some questions, but also I want to end with kind of the election.

00:28:39.000 A lot of you have questions about the election and where things are headed.

00:28:44.000 Early voting looks very good for Republicans and President Trump, and I can dive into some of those numbers if you're interested.

00:28:50.000 However, outside of the election, and you guys know this, Texas is in play, all these sorts of things.

00:28:56.000 But why is Texas in play?

00:28:57.000 And it's not because of Californians.

00:28:59.000 Actually, Californians are voting more Republican than Democrat, according to the recent data that I've seen.

00:29:04.000 So you can thank California for one good export, finally, right?

00:29:09.000 And the reason, the reason is cultural, and I think we all know this, that as conservatives and Republicans might have been winning elections for the last 30 years, we've been losing almost every single cultural battle in every cultural institution.

00:29:25.000 How we educate our children, how we communicate our values.

00:29:29.000 Are we creating a more thankful, more thankful generation that is more likely to appreciate this beautiful gift?

00:29:40.000 So people say we're divided.

00:29:42.000 We are divided. 1.00

00:29:42.000 I agree. 1.00

00:29:43.000 I think we're divided in two categories in our country.

00:29:46.000 Those people that are thankful that they live in America and those people that are angry that they live in America.

00:29:51.000 I think that's the true division.

00:29:53.000 As I've mentioned, we've made plenty of mistakes as a country, but we are not a mistake.

00:29:58.000 If you apply yourself correctly, you could truly succeed in America.

00:30:03.000 And the thing that really depresses me the most is when I meet a young person that has been convinced that their action has no bearing on their future in the country.

00:30:12.000 That no matter what they do, they are not able to succeed.

00:30:16.000 And more so than anything else, our future rests, I think, solely on our ability to make our kids love America again, that we are the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:30:25.000 That we have done so much good for the planet and for the world.

00:30:29.000 And that if we are able to communicate these values and these ideas to young people, then that will be the future of America outside of the election.

00:30:37.000 The election is just a moment in time.

00:30:39.000 And I do think things are trending positively, and we can build that out even more.

00:30:42.000 Benjamin Franklin famously said, it's a republic if you can keep it.

00:30:46.000 So it's all on us and everyone here to do exactly that.

00:30:49.000 So let's do some questions.

00:30:50.000 And I want to thank you.

00:30:51.000 What an unbelievable turnout, especially young people.

00:30:53.000 So I want to thank you guys for that.

00:30:55.000 And we'll do some questions.

00:31:05.000 Charlie, can you talk a little bit about globalism versus nationalism, why Trump ran for president, what he's actually fighting against?

00:31:14.000 He's fighting a lot bigger battles than just what's going on in this country.

00:31:19.000 Yeah, I mean, there is a push to destroy American sovereignty.

00:31:24.000 There is a push to try to create a almost unified world government that will basically deteriorate the idea of the United States of America as its own self-determining country.

00:31:37.000 And President Donald Trump stands in stark opposition to a lot of these needs, wants, and wishes of a lot of these people that are pushing for this.

00:31:44.000 And so you can see this in the push for the Paris Climate Accord, which would have destroyed the oil and gas industry in this state if fully implemented.

00:31:52.000 You see this in the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

00:31:55.000 You see this through the overzealous push to try to have the United Nations almost have jurisdiction over our country.

00:32:02.000 And I'm a believer in, I'm a believer in countries being able to determine their own future.

00:32:10.000 And there is an understandable, I think, put, I think there's an understandable school of thought that says, well, in the 20th century, we had too many individual nations.

00:32:18.000 And look how badly that ended.

00:32:21.000 I say, hold on a second. 0.64

00:32:22.000 How many people died because the Soviet Union tried to create a global empire?

00:32:26.000 See, we don't teach communism correctly in our country, that the Soviet Union was exporting communism to every single continent.

00:32:33.000 It was the only export that ended up being affected out of the Soviet Union.

00:32:37.000 Rhodesia turned to Zimbabwe.

00:32:39.000 Cuba got taken over by Fidel Castro.

00:32:41.000 Venezuela was once a beautiful, unbelievably rich and prosperous country, and it flipped in a generation.

00:32:47.000 We have tried countries with global ambitions before and trying to unify the entire planet under one perspective.

00:32:54.000 And it is very, very dangerous what one of these people are pushing.

00:32:57.000 Look, the president gets a bad rap, and I think a lot of it, almost all of it, is completely unwarranted.

00:33:02.000 I mean, this is a president who did not have to run for office.

00:33:05.000 This is a man that, despite the ridicule, the backlash, and the opposition, not only won the election in 2016, but he did something that is against the golden rule of Washington, D.C.

00:33:17.000 He actually did what he said he was going to do after he got elected.

00:33:25.000 And I understand some of you say, I don't like his tweets.

00:33:28.000 I don't like his style.

00:33:29.000 Okay.

00:33:30.000 Gorsuch Kavanaugh, 200 federal judges, soon to be 300, largest middle-class tax cut, finally taking child sex trafficking seriously in our country, canceling the Iran deal, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, recognizing Golan Heights.

00:33:46.000 And I think we have to be very clear as to who is the president and what type, what time are we in?

00:33:53.000 There's a season for everything.

00:33:55.000 The Bible tells us this.

00:33:56.000 And I believe that we're in a season of struggle.

00:33:58.000 We're in a season of conflict.

00:34:00.000 You might not have signed up for this, but nations go through this periodically.

00:34:04.000 And when you're in a season of struggle and conflict, you want to make sure that the ideas that preserve the civilization you care about win.

00:34:14.000 And that's why I said at my RNC speech that President Donald Trump is the bodyguard of Western civilization.

00:34:21.000 And I love that imagery of a bodyguard because when I hire a bodyguard, I couldn't care less about their tweet history.

00:34:30.000 I don't care about if they're a little rough around the edges.

00:34:33.000 I want someone that knows how to fight and will protect our country and our civilization.

00:34:37.000 And quite honestly, for the first time in my lifetime, I finally feel that we are making tangible and serious policy wins for the betterment of our country under a conservative perspective.

00:34:49.000 I mentioned the judge, I mentioned all these sorts of things.

00:34:52.000 And then you look at the alternative.

00:34:56.000 You look at the alternative, the Harris administration, because that's who really will be in charge.

00:35:01.000 The Harris administration will pack the courts, make D.C. and Puerto Rico states.

00:35:08.000 They will abolish the Electoral College.

00:35:11.000 And they look at that opportunity to weaponize the entire federal government in their image.

00:35:16.000 And so, yeah, the stakes are really high.

00:35:19.000 And I think that's why a lot of you are showing up tonight.

00:35:21.000 I think the unspoken thing that's happening here is that you feel like you're losing your country.

00:35:26.000 And you're right, because we are.

00:35:28.000 You're losing the country.

00:35:29.000 You're losing our country to people that suddenly have an extraordinary amount of power and they're willing to use it.

00:35:36.000 And the one thing that these, that the corporate elites and the big tech elites and the Hollywood community and all these people, the one thing that frustrates them so much is that they still can't control all of you.

00:35:52.000 The one thing that bothers them is they think that they can bully and intimidate and almost extort all of you to vote for Joe Biden.

00:36:02.000 They say it so plainly.

00:36:04.000 The most factual thing that Joe Biden said over the summer was that if you elect me, the riots will stop.

00:36:10.000 I believe that.

00:36:11.000 I do.

00:36:13.000 I think that he would make a couple phone calls and he'd say, end it.

00:36:16.000 I think that the manufactured chaos that we saw in our country the last couple months was trying to get people to say, I've had enough.

00:36:25.000 Who's going to try to end this sort of stuff?

00:36:27.000 But I think the American people are a lot wiser than that.

00:36:29.000 I think that our government is set up.

00:36:32.000 Of course, the people are the sovereign in our country, we the people.

00:36:36.000 Such an incredible leap forward for humanity that some king or queen or blood right is not in charge, but you actually get to call the shots.

00:36:45.000 And that's the only thing they still have not yet been able to control.

00:36:48.000 And that's what he represents.

00:36:50.000 And that's why they hate him so much.

00:36:52.000 So great question.

00:36:52.000 Let's get a question here.

00:36:54.000 And all my political remarks are made on behalf of Turning Point Action, not Turning Point USA.

00:36:58.000 We have C3 and a C4.

00:36:59.000 And those of you that deal in that world know exactly why I have to say that.

00:37:02.000 So yes, next question.

00:37:04.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:37:04.000 You brought up paid leave earlier.

00:37:07.000 Could you talk a little bit more about that and how a free market?

00:37:10.000 Brought up what?

00:37:10.000 I'm sorry.

00:37:11.000 Paid leave.

00:37:12.000 Yes.

00:37:13.000 Could you talk a little bit more about that and how a free market capitalist can tackle that conversation?

00:37:20.000 Well, I think that the family is the bedrock of any functioning society.

00:37:24.000 I think that it is a disgrace that 77% of black babies in this country are born without a stable father in the home.

00:37:31.000 I think that the reason, the number one reason why mothers do not have more than one or two kids, which is the average birth rate for natural born Americans, is because of financial reasons.

00:37:40.000 And I don't think we have a capitalist system if you don't have a country.

00:37:43.000 And I also believe that if we do not prioritize the family and family creation in our country, then you're not going to have a country to even have a capitalist system at all.

00:37:51.000 And I actually value the family more than I value, like I value family creation and stable families more so than I might value like the maximal profit return. 0.98

00:38:02.000 And we spend money on such ridiculous garbage in this country. 0.97

00:38:06.000 And there's conservative ways to fund it. 0.98

00:38:08.000 President Trump put forth a conservative way to do it, said you can borrow out of your Social Security fund and be able to do this.

00:38:15.000 And look, it's a provocative view for a conservative to hold.

00:38:18.000 Some people disagree with it.

00:38:20.000 But if we're serious about the civilizational collapse that we're looking at right now, and we want to actually fix some of these problems, and if we're, look, we know this through psychological data, we know this.

00:38:32.000 We should want young families to have more children, and we should want mothers to be able to spend those formative years with their newborns.

00:38:41.000 We should want that.

00:38:42.000 So for example, in the 1980s, you had, it required 35 weeks of work, 35 weeks of work to earn about $75,000 a year.

00:38:52.000 Now it requires 53 weeks of work.

00:38:55.000 What does that mean? 1.00

00:38:56.000 It almost forces the woman into the workplace. 1.00

00:38:58.000 Now, I'm not diametrically against that if the woman chooses, but I am against it by force. 0.99

00:39:03.000 I think it's bad that young women in this country, young mothers, have no other option but to go into the marketplace to keep a middle-class lifestyle going. 0.98

00:39:12.000 And so, yeah, that's why I think that if we're serious about the role the family plays in the American society, which we know is the longest lasting, most important institution to any functioning civilization, then we must make it easier to have children in this country.

00:39:26.000 We also must, I think, support young mothers being with those children.

00:39:31.000 And every single study shows that if a young mother is able to be with a newborn for those 18 months, they're far less likely to go to prison, far less likely to commit suicide, they're less likely to be social isolation.

00:39:43.000 Every metric that we are concerned about comes back to the mother being there with the baby the first 18 to 24 months.

00:39:50.000 And yes, it is a financial obstacle.

00:39:52.000 It is.

00:39:52.000 And so I could defend it from a conservative position and just an American position.

00:39:56.000 How we fund it, how we do it, I don't know.

00:39:58.000 But I think that given the circumstance that we're in, it is the right thing for our country.

00:40:02.000 So thank you.

00:40:03.000 I appreciate the question.

00:40:04.000 So.

00:40:12.000 Yep, go ahead.

00:40:13.000 Okay.

00:40:14.000 Welcome to Dallas.

00:40:15.000 Thank you.

00:40:16.000 My name is Chad Jackson.

00:40:18.000 I'm actually from the film Uncle Tom, which was released.

00:40:21.000 Oh, it's one of my favorite.

00:40:28.000 We actually have more of our team here tonight, too.

00:40:30.000 So welcome to Dallas.

00:40:32.000 Everyone's got to check out this film.

00:40:34.000 It's incredible.

00:40:36.000 So what does a Joe Biden win mean for America in 2020?

00:40:41.000 And how do you recommend Turning Point and other conservative groups across the country engage in the fight in the four years after that?

00:40:49.000 So thank you.

00:40:50.000 So if he wins, it also depends on whether he takes the Senate.

00:40:54.000 So let's just go total apocalyptic, cataclysmic, he wins everything, okay?

00:40:58.000 What then?

00:41:00.000 Well, I can tell you what I'm going to do.

00:41:01.000 We're going to get up and go to work and do two podcasts a day and do our radio show and keep on traveling to campuses.

00:41:06.000 We're not going to give up.

00:41:07.000 That's the first thing.

00:41:08.000 And I want to make sure that we all of a sudden do not become completely despondent if that happens.

00:41:14.000 And now, so just talking about what I said earlier, I don't want to give people's hopes up too much, but just because the early voting numbers we're seeing out of these states, we've never seen before for Republicans.

00:41:25.000 We've never seen it.

00:41:26.000 We have never seen Republicans vote early in this kind of numbers and this kind of enthusiasm ever in the history of our elections.

00:41:33.000 It's unbelievable.

00:41:36.000 So now, there's two potential explanations for this.

00:41:42.000 One is that our base is fired up and we're going to fizzle out.

00:41:48.000 Okay.

00:41:49.000 Or it can be a quick start and we sustain it and we build it and then we also crush on election day.

00:41:57.000 So I don't know which one it will be, but a vote is a vote.

00:42:00.000 Whether you vote on election day or vote early, the fact we're voting early is awesome.

00:42:04.000 That just lessens the amount of people that we have to actually focus on to get them to show up and to persuade them.

00:42:09.000 And so it's a very, very good thing.

00:42:11.000 And there's also others, like kind of little crumbs, to use a Nancy Pelosi term, that I think is very positive for President Trump.

00:42:20.000 We sold 19 million guns in this country in the last nine months.

00:42:23.000 I don't think that's a lot of Joe Biden voters, okay?

00:42:28.000 I think that there is pent up, I think there is so much pent up disgust against these lockdowns, against the double standard, against the micro-tyranny.

00:42:40.000 I think that people are just, they cannot wait to go vote.

00:42:43.000 It's an enthusiasm level that makes 2016 look like nothing.

00:42:47.000 So the question is this, and this is a very real question.

00:42:51.000 Is there also a hidden anti-Trump vote?

00:42:54.000 Are there also people out there that have been waiting for the chance to vote against him?

00:42:59.000 And they don't have a chance to go to rallies and their rallies are like the BLM demonstrations.

00:43:03.000 And the answer is maybe.

00:43:04.000 I am less convinced that you can make people show up in the same numbers against a candidate that you can for a candidate.

00:43:11.000 That is why recall efforts rarely work in this country.

00:43:14.000 It is very, very hard to mobilize people on a referendum.

00:43:17.000 It's not impossible.

00:43:19.000 We're going to see if they can do it because no one is actually voting for Joe Biden.

00:43:22.000 That person does not exist.

00:43:23.000 Those Biden-Harris signs, okay?

00:43:26.000 Those Biden-Harris signs over here, those are not actual Biden-Harris signs, okay?

00:43:29.000 Those are, I hate Donald Trump, and I'm such a good person.

00:43:32.000 Look at me signs, okay?

00:43:33.000 So, and that's really what that says.

00:43:35.000 So here's the other good news for Trump, if you guys want it.

00:43:40.000 If you're still undecided right now, and if you're here tonight, thank you for coming.

00:43:44.000 But if you're still undecided and you still, after everything they've thrown at Trump, you're like, I don't know if I don't like this Trump guy.

00:43:52.000 You're waiting for a reason to vote for Trump.

00:43:53.000 Let's just be honest, okay?

00:43:55.000 After the nonstop 24-7 just arbitrage that this guy has had to survive, it is that people are just saying, like, please give me a reason to vote for you.

00:44:07.000 Huge debate on Thursday, massive.

00:44:09.000 The president has to win this debate.

00:44:11.000 He wins the debate, I'm convinced he wins the election.

00:44:13.000 It's that simple.

00:44:14.000 I think if the president comes out, he has to do three things.

00:44:17.000 And I did a whole podcast on this, but I'll distill them into three quick things.

00:44:19.000 Number one, I think that he has to handle the Hunter-Biden thing correctly.

00:44:23.000 I think he runs a risk of handling this thing completely in the wrong direction.

00:44:27.000 If he focuses too much on Hunter and too much on conjecture, he'll lose that argument.

00:44:32.000 He has to make it about Joe, not about Hunter.

00:44:36.000 If you make it too much about Hunter, Hunter's not running for office, okay?

00:44:38.000 Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's instead, you have to say, Joe, why do you refuse not to answer these questions?

00:44:44.000 He just has to ask the question, demonstrate the facts, and let Joe talk.

00:44:47.000 Number two, in a very bizarre way, the debate commission, I think, has given Trump an advantage here.

00:44:52.000 President Trump has to not interrupt Joe Biden, okay?

00:44:55.000 He just, well, his microphone will be muted, so I guess that will help.

00:44:59.000 And again, it's just, if we're just being very honest, independent swing voters do not like a candidate that's interrupting the other person.

00:45:07.000 They don't.

00:45:08.000 So he's got to not do that.

00:45:09.000 I don't think he has much of a choice.

00:45:11.000 And then the third thing that he has to do is he has to be happier, more positive, and smile more than Joe Biden.

00:45:18.000 People are waiting to be happy again.

00:45:21.000 Like, I've never seen a desire to be happy as much as I've seen in our country.

00:45:26.000 And so the entire Biden campaign is the most depressing line of political argumentation I've ever seen.

00:45:32.000 Everyone's dying.

00:45:33.000 It's all awful.

00:45:34.000 We wear a mask when we shower.

00:45:36.000 It's like it's awful, right?

00:45:38.000 I mean, we're going to shut everything down.

00:45:40.000 And so President Trump, and I think he has an umbrella, and I just mean this as aesthetically as I can make, he has a great smile.

00:45:47.000 He has a great way to himself.

00:45:48.000 I think that if he channels the energy he had with Savannah Guthrie last week, where he's magnanimous and he's charming, he wins the election so convincingly, it won't even be close.

00:45:59.000 Now, if he has another one of the shouting matches, I don't know what's going to happen.

00:46:03.000 But he has a chance right now.

00:46:04.000 I'd rather be President Trump than Joe Biden.

00:46:06.000 If you said, Charlie, who would you rather be at this point and this time?

00:46:09.000 I'd rather be the candidate that has the most new registered voters, which President Trump has, has an advantage of hundreds of thousands of newly registered voters.

00:46:16.000 I want the candidate that's crushing early voting, which typically wins on election day.

00:46:21.000 I want the candidate that's not mired in an FBI scandal about intercontinentally selling out our country.

00:46:26.000 I want the candidate with a stronger base, and I want the candidate that actually does public appearances.

00:46:31.000 So that's President Trump.

00:46:32.000 Like, I would take that in a second, where, and I know that might not, there is evidence to show that maybe Joe Biden will have some other support or some things that'll surge at the end.

00:46:44.000 But if President Trump does his job, it's his race to win or lose.

00:46:48.000 It's that simple.

00:46:49.000 It's completely in his hands and also your hands.

00:46:51.000 We'll talk about that.

00:46:52.000 Let's get to the next question.

00:46:54.000 Could you talk about the prevalence of cancel culture and how it affects civil discourse and public policy?

00:47:01.000 Yeah, I mean, this is one of the most dangerous things happening in our country right now, that the people with the most amount of power in America, they seek to silence, destroy, and annihilate anyone they disagree with.

00:47:16.000 And we were a country for many years where we could agree to disagree.

00:47:20.000 It is a bedrock American principle that the minority opinion should be given a platform.

00:47:26.000 And we are now...

00:47:29.000 We are now entering a phase of America, if not directly confronted, where if you dare say something that is not the dogmatic opinion, you will lose your job, lose your friends, be socially isolated outcasts.

00:47:42.000 And that's already happening.

00:47:43.000 71% of young people are afraid to express their religious and political views.

00:47:48.000 Now, that's a really, really alarming poll.

00:47:50.000 Equally, I can't imagine all of them are Democrats.

00:47:54.000 So I think there's a lot more young people that believe what we believe.

00:47:57.000 They're just afraid to say it.

00:47:58.000 And I think it's going to be reflected in a lot of the voting numbers that'll surprise a lot of people.

00:48:02.000 But the number one form of censorship, though, in this country is self-censorship.

00:48:07.000 It's people shutting themselves up because they're afraid of somebody saying something at the grocery store.

00:48:13.000 You're less likely to wear the MAGA hat.

00:48:15.000 You're less likely to wear, you know, the God is real t-shirt, whatever it might be.

00:48:20.000 You're less likely to wear the Trump pin or the Trump button.

00:48:23.000 And so one out of five of college students believe that using physical force against opposing viewpoints is okay.

00:48:34.000 One out of five.

00:48:35.000 And so it shouldn't stun you when all of a sudden people take to the streets like they did this weekend and they assault the black conservative in the streets of San Francisco and they assault that young woman who's a Turning Point USA Ambassador Isabel at the Woman's March.

00:48:49.000 They hospitalize her and nearly break her neck just because she was holding up a Trump flag.

00:48:54.000 And I say this with no joking at all.

00:48:57.000 Our Turning Point USA college students, we go through training and how they should do their advocacy to not get hospitalized, right?

00:49:05.000 Because if you do it incorrectly in the wrong places on the wrong campus, you will get physically beaten.

00:49:10.000 And there's very little recourse for that.

00:49:14.000 And so, yeah, it's as bad as you could possibly imagine.

00:49:16.000 It's worse.

00:49:17.000 And so what's the solution to this is that anyone who dares cancel somebody because it's an opinion they don't like, they must be harshly held accountable.

00:49:27.000 If it's a college administrator, if it's a boss, if it's a CEO, and the other thing is that enough people have to say, I'm not going to abide by the cancellation standards that you put through. 0.55

00:49:39.000 I mean, they're trying to cancel Chris Pratt now because he's a Christian. 0.98

00:49:42.000 I mean, it's a whole new thing they're doing in Hollywood the last couple of days. 0.94

00:49:45.000 And just because he came out as a Christian and some other celebrity is like, oh, he hates gay people because he's a Christian. 0.72

00:49:50.000 I mean, it's completely baseless.

00:49:52.000 And so there's only two ways to govern human beings.

00:49:56.000 You can govern human beings by speaking, persuasion, and talking, or you can govern human beings by force.

00:50:03.000 The American experiment has succeeded because we have had a system where you have to make good arguments to get power and continue to earn people's trust to stay in power.

00:50:15.000 The other government systems the last hundred years were based on force.

00:50:18.000 The Soviet Union, Communist China, Cuba.

00:50:21.000 They don't make arguments.

00:50:22.000 They just take power.

00:50:23.000 So all of a sudden, if you shut people's capacity to speak, you're heading to a very, very dangerous direction, which, by the way, that's why what we are doing at Turning Point USA is so critical to the fabric of the republic.

00:50:37.000 Because many of these campuses, Highland Park High School, all these campuses, there's no conservative presence at all whatsoever.

00:50:46.000 If all of a sudden they are able to obliterate all viewpoints or all opinions of a certain political opinion, then they've won completely.

00:50:56.000 And then you've entered a one-party state.

00:50:58.000 So it's a very good question.

00:50:59.000 I appreciate it.

00:51:00.000 Thank you.

00:51:00.000 Next question.

00:51:02.000 Hi.

00:51:03.000 I believe in strong borders and that it's very important to come in legally.

00:51:07.000 But an argument that I often run into is, what about the people who can't afford to come in legally or need to come into the country quickly because they're in a dangerous situation?

00:51:19.000 It's a great question.

00:51:21.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:51:22.000 It's great.

00:51:23.000 So, look, immigration should always benefit the country that you live in.

00:51:27.000 I mean, this idea... that we have completely blurred the lines of what immigration is in our country.

00:51:33.000 And mind you, we are the most benevolent country when it comes to immigration on the planet.

00:51:38.000 You know that we take in half of the world's immigrants every single year?

00:51:41.000 Half.

00:51:42.000 We're 5% of the world's population, yet we take in half the world's immigrants. 1.00

00:51:45.000 That's legal.

00:51:46.000 That doesn't even count illegal border crossings or illegal entries into the country.

00:51:51.000 And so I guess if you can't afford to come into this country legally, there's plenty of ways to say you can apply for a green card and all these sorts of things.

00:52:01.000 But I'm of the opinion that every immigration proposal and policy must be kept in mind with, is it good for our country? 0.99

00:52:11.000 Are these people able to assimilate into our country? 0.97

00:52:14.000 Because it should always be about assimilation of the American culture. 0.97

00:52:17.000 And if not, then sometimes you should take pauses with American immigration. 0.90

00:52:21.000 And we've done this in our past before very successfully. 0.98

00:52:24.000 And this new idea of bringing 1.2 million people into our country endlessly is a failed model. 0.96

00:52:29.000 It's not working. 0.98

00:52:30.000 And that's where you have more people that speak Spanish than English in the state of California.

00:52:35.000 I'm not against speaking Spanish, but if you do not have the capacity to interface, if you do not have a common language, which I believe English should be the official language of the United States, then you've lost a lot of the capacity to be able to relate with people and communicate with people.

00:52:49.000 And so, and as far as asylum seekers, we are the most generous country when it comes to asylum seekers.

00:52:55.000 It's not even close.

00:52:57.000 I mean, Japan took one person last year as an asylum seeker, okay?

00:53:01.000 One. 0.96

00:53:02.000 I mean, why even do the one, right?

00:53:03.000 That's why it's like, and so we take tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of people when it comes to that.

00:53:09.000 And so this is why I believe in very strong borders on the southern border, because not only is it bad with, not only is it bad with all the reasons that you obviously agree with, which is the crime, the child sex trafficking, the drugs, but also what it does is it diminishes legal immigration is what it does.

00:53:31.000 And it blurs the line between the person in Bulgaria and Belarus that has to wait their turn for 20 years to come into America and then someone that's able to come to the southern border and hop in.

00:53:42.000 That is not, that is a moral difference of immigration.

00:53:45.000 I don't never think we should blur those lines between someone that comes here the right way and immigrants immigrate and someone that comes in illegally.

00:53:53.000 So thank you for your question.

00:53:54.000 I appreciate it.

00:53:55.000 Next question.

00:53:58.000 Hey, Charlie, just before I'm a question, I just want to let you know how much I appreciate how refreshing it is having such a young person like you be such a political trailblazer in this country right now.

00:54:09.000 Thank you.

00:54:14.000 My question is, what are your thoughts on the whole Hunter Biden hard drive situation and how do you think that is going to possibly affect the election here in the next couple of years?

00:54:22.000 It's a great question.

00:54:25.000 It's, I mean, it's probably the greatest argument not to do crack cocaine that I've ever seen.

00:54:32.000 I mean, I mean.

00:54:38.000 So anyone that's in the kind of like the drug rehabilitation world, you can use this.

00:54:42.000 I mean, your father's running for the presidency of the United States and you show up with three laptops, one of which that has emails and text messages with foreign oligarchs and you forget to pick them up.

00:54:53.000 At first I was apprehensive and skeptical.

00:54:55.000 Now we have evidence that shows that his signature verified that he did this.

00:55:00.000 We have the person, Del Isaac, I think is his name, of the computer repair shop that has shown that this is exactly what happened.

00:55:08.000 But I'm skeptical.

00:55:10.000 The Federal Bureau of Investigation has had this laptop for nine months and they've done nothing because there really are two justice systems in this country, one for the wealthy Democrats that are well connected and for the rest of us.

00:55:23.000 And secondly, I don't know if we have enough time to really make this move the dial, but we don't need to make it move the dial 10 points.

00:55:31.000 If this is able to move the dial two or three points, then this can have a very significant advantage for President Trump, especially in the state of Pennsylvania, especially in a state where Joe Biden pretends he's the good old Scranton guy.

00:55:46.000 Okay, you're the good old Scranton guy when you're sending your crack addicted son to Kazakhstan, China, Ukraine to sit on barisma while you make millions of dollars for 10% for the big man.

00:56:02.000 That dog does not hunt in Scranton, Pennsylvania.

00:56:04.000 Let me tell you that.

00:56:05.000 And so I don't know what the implications will be, but just so if you have no idea we're talking about the Hunter Biden thing, it's worse than you can imagine.

00:56:12.000 I encourage you to look at these emails.

00:56:14.000 They have been independently authenticated.

00:56:16.000 They have been verified and corroborated through metadata and other ways.

00:56:19.000 And the most scary thing, though, out of the entire Hunter Biden story is not the Hunter Biden story.

00:56:24.000 It's not.

00:56:25.000 It's how the most valuable companies in our country that are worth trillions of dollars have decided that you do not have the right to read this story.

00:56:36.000 That should horrify you.

00:56:39.000 Because when you have multi-trillion dollar companies collectively with their market cap together, all of a sudden say, no, no, no, citizen, you're not supposed to see this.

00:56:56.000 That makes 1984 look like an instruction manual where you have a one-party state that is saying that you are not allowed to view it.

00:57:06.000 And if you don't know what happened, I'll just say this.

00:57:08.000 New York Post article against Hunter Biden last week, Twitter and Facebook forbade the sharing, the direct messaging, and the viewing of their articles on their platform, and they would deactivate your Twitter account.

00:57:18.000 My Twitter account was deactivated over the weekend for a similar violation.

00:57:21.000 I just got my Twitter account back today.

00:57:23.000 And so what's really scary, though, and this is something that I think we all have, it's a teaching moment.

00:57:30.000 We as conservatives have always thought of corporations as being on our side.

00:57:34.000 We've always thought of the biggest companies to be on Team Republican.

00:57:38.000 That is not the case anymore.

00:57:40.000 These tech companies in particular, Facebook, Google, Twitter, all of them, they view themselves as auxiliary communication and enforcement arms of the Democrat Party.

00:57:52.000 And they are, in my opinion, that's when you should lose your Section 230 immunity.

00:57:58.000 People should be able to sue these companies because it is not fair.

00:58:03.000 And I want to be clear.

00:58:07.000 It's not a free market when it comes to these tech companies.

00:58:09.000 We gave them a government-provided protection where we can't sue them.

00:58:14.000 So it's worse than that.

00:58:16.000 We didn't, people say, well, why didn't we regulate them?

00:58:18.000 No, it's worse than that.

00:58:19.000 We gave them a regulation that protected their incumbency.

00:58:23.000 We gave them a government favor to be able to act like a publisher while saying they're a platform.

00:58:30.000 So you asked about Hunter Biden.

00:58:32.000 The Hunter Biden thing, we'll see how it shakes out.

00:58:33.000 We're going to keep talking about it.

00:58:34.000 But the thing that I want all of you guys to really think about over the next couple of days and weeks heading into the election and post-election, is it okay that a couple of companies have more power than our federal government?

00:58:48.000 Because the, because here's the thing, if the federal government came out and they said you're not allowed to read the New York Post story, we would sue and we'd win in court in an afternoon because we have a First Amendment for that.

00:59:00.000 If the federal government all of a sudden deleted a social media account of yours, you'd say you're not allowed to do that.

00:59:06.000 That is a violation of my First Amendment rights.

00:59:08.000 There's no bill of rights with these tech companies.

00:59:10.000 We have no rights.

00:59:11.000 So we're dealing in a digital age in an ecosystem that's created for these tech companies, staffed only by people that agree with one viewpoint, that we're bad and they're smart and good, and just give them power and they're going to figure it out for us.

00:59:26.000 They're the philosopher kings, as Plato would say.

00:59:29.000 That's horrifying.

00:59:30.000 And so it's long past time for action against that.

00:59:32.000 That's the real thing.

00:59:33.000 And you know what also tells me?

00:59:35.000 The tech companies wouldn't have done this if this Hunter Biden story wasn't legit.

00:59:39.000 These tech companies would not have done this if this Hunter Biden story was just like vapor and fake.

00:59:45.000 There's something to this story that has them so nervous.

00:59:48.000 And it actually created the Barbara Streison effect.

00:59:51.000 The Barbara Streison effect in 2003, Barbara Streisand, pictures of her Malibu home started to be leaked.

00:59:56.000 And she said, no, no, no, no, she tried to buy all these pictures back and it resulted in millions of people going to go look at her home and more people knew where she lived than if she would have just let the pictures be released anyway.

01:00:06.000 It's exactly what happened with Hunter Biden.

01:00:08.000 It became a bigger story than they would have ever possibly imagined.

01:00:11.000 And so it's a great question.

01:00:12.000 Thank you.

01:00:12.000 Next, next.

01:00:14.000 So I want to go back to the college question.

01:00:18.000 What are your, I'm curious your thoughts on the value or lack thereof of a liberal arts education?

01:00:23.000 To give some background on where I'm coming from, I graduated in 2014 with a degree in music.

01:00:28.000 I've now got a job as a software developer, self-taught through online resources, graduated with zero debt.

01:00:35.000 So, you know, obviously graduating, I was like, gosh, I wish I could do something useful.

01:00:41.000 But looking back on it, I don't regret that.

01:00:44.000 The time you go to school.

01:00:45.000 Belmont University in Nashville, Tennessee.

01:00:47.000 I know it very well.

01:00:49.000 You survived.

01:00:50.000 You're not a communist, right?

01:00:52.000 Good.

01:00:53.000 So it worked for you.

01:00:54.000 It's great.

01:00:54.000 No debt.

01:00:55.000 Financially worked.

01:00:56.000 And you were able to not be indoctrinated.

01:00:59.000 I wish liberal arts was the idea of liberal arts.

01:01:03.000 And maybe you had a different experience at Belmont.

01:01:05.000 And I've heard mixed things about Belmont.

01:01:07.000 We were talking about that earlier with somebody, where they have a whole thing where they don't want Donald Trump on their campus this week because he's coming to debate.

01:01:15.000 My opinion of liberal arts is that in its ideal form, it's terrific.

01:01:20.000 But the current state of liberal arts in this country, I'm a very, very harsh critic of.

01:01:25.000 Where you are reading more Angela Davis or Herbert Marcuse and Michelle Foucault and Jacques Derrida than Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Augustine, and Aquinas, you got a problem.

01:01:36.000 And so if liberal arts is able to refashion its roots as being a traditional classical Western education, I am all for that.

01:01:46.000 If it can be done so, in your case, economically, makes sense, not going endlessly into debt.

01:01:52.000 But you also kind of prove my point.

01:01:53.000 You got a music degree and now you're a software engineer, right?

01:01:56.000 So awesome, but it didn't really give you a skill.

01:02:00.000 It might have given you a good worldview, right?

01:02:02.000 And you were able to survive and do that.

01:02:04.000 And that's a good thing.

01:02:05.000 So my incumbent position is I'm a critic of current liberal arts education.

01:02:11.000 I am, because I've seen what it creates, and I've seen the lack of depth at many of these universities of what they're teaching and what they're expressing and the venom that some of these professors have.

01:02:22.000 And if Belmont's the exception, God bless Belmont.

01:02:24.000 I know a little about the school, but not enough to be able to interface on that.

01:02:28.000 But hope that helps answer your question.

01:02:30.000 So thank you.

01:02:31.000 Next question.

01:02:33.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:02:34.000 My name is Patrick, and my question is about healthcare.

01:02:36.000 I was just curious to get your opinion because I know that you've been a very vocal critic of socialized medicine as well.

01:02:41.000 You should be.

01:02:43.000 However, what are the conservative alternatives?

01:02:45.000 What specific policies should we as conservatives be trying to advocate for and implement to build a better healthcare system in America?

01:02:53.000 It's a phenomenal question.

01:02:54.000 Thank you.

01:02:55.000 Part of believing in a market, according to Milton Friedman, one of the most important things in believing in a market is prices.

01:03:03.000 Prices is how you communicate with the vendor or the entrepreneur or the provider what you are willing to pay or give up for what they're offering.

01:03:13.000 The biggest problem with healthcare in this country, especially at the delivery point, is the lack of prices, is the surprise billing, is the disclosure of prices.

01:03:24.000 This is why the president passing an executive order by our friend Cynthia Fisher, it was terrific, for healthcare transparency, that hospitals have to publish their prices to people that go into hospitals.

01:03:34.000 And I believe this is a free market position.

01:03:35.000 I do.

01:03:36.000 Because I believe the more information you give the patient, the better decisions they'll be able to make.

01:03:42.000 I also believe firmly in buying health insurance across state lines.

01:03:46.000 I believe in tort reform, which is something I think that Texas has done very well.

01:03:50.000 I believe that we need more independent, more independent practice doctors in this country and less conglomerate, massive hospital organizations.

01:04:04.000 But more than anything else, I think where conservatives get wrong on this issue is sometimes they become defenders of a broken incumbent position, a broken incumbent system.

01:04:15.000 I think because some Republicans are heavily funded by these organizations, they're heavily funded by some of these companies, and they go out of their way to defend a system that really, in some ways, works, in other ways doesn't.

01:04:29.000 And so if we're trying to create a healthcare system, in my opinion, that works, we definitely don't want the Bernie Sanders model, nationalize everything, it's a disaster.

01:04:36.000 We also should appreciate what we do right.

01:04:37.000 We have the highest quality of care on the planet.

01:04:40.000 We have more innovations.

01:04:41.000 It's just the problem is it's really expensive, hard to be able to get high accessibility for it.

01:04:46.000 And there's a lot of problems in the middle area of Medicaid, health insurance, and health insurance for the poor, which is Medicaid, and also employer provided health care.

01:04:54.000 So I think the first step for Republicans on health care has to be the more information, the better.

01:05:02.000 We have to become transparency crusaders, where we want you to have all the information.

01:05:08.000 When you break a leg, exactly what they're going to give you and what that is going to mean for you on your health insurance plan.

01:05:15.000 The more questioning, the more conversation, the more communication with patients when it comes to health care, I believe the better.

01:05:23.000 And I think that's a free market position that I'd be willing to defend.

01:05:26.000 I'm happy to dive into it more, but we'll kind of leave it there.

01:05:29.000 Thank you.

01:05:29.000 Appreciate it.

01:05:30.000 Next question.

01:05:32.000 Hi, my name is Ava from the Highland Park Turning Park.

01:05:35.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

01:05:37.000 Yes, we are so excited.

01:05:39.000 And I was wondering if you could talk about where you draw the line with free speech, hate speech, and slander.

01:05:45.000 It's a terrific question.

01:05:48.000 My position is that even hate speech should be completely and totally allowed in our country.

01:05:54.000 The most disgusting speech should absolutely be protected.

01:05:58.000 And it's not a viewpoint that is held by the left.

01:06:00.000 The ACLU used to hold this viewpoint.

01:06:03.000 The American Civil Liberties Union, they sued so that legitimate Nazis could march through downtown Stokie.

01:06:09.000 You remember this?

01:06:10.000 Back in the 80s and 90s?

01:06:12.000 Now, why would the ACLU do this?

01:06:14.000 Because they said, as soon as you use the word hate, that is a very subjective term.

01:06:21.000 Because then all of a sudden it is in the eyes or the, it is in the implementation of whomever has the power.

01:06:29.000 So here's my belief.

01:06:31.000 The more speech, the better.

01:06:32.000 Let's use the Westboro Baptist Church, for example.

01:06:35.000 So there's a movement that says it should be illegal to say what they're saying. 0.58

01:06:40.000 I think what they say is disgusting.

01:06:41.000 I think what they say is reprehensible. 1.00

01:06:43.000 But I've also seen every time they show up, a multiple of people show up peacefully to show how foolish they are. 0.95

01:06:53.000 I think that in a civil society, the best ideas will win as long as you have that marketplace. 0.94

01:06:58.000 And here's the real issue.

01:07:00.000 As soon as you shut up hate speech, those people only get more powerful.

01:07:04.000 And this is the unintended consequence of censorship.

01:07:07.000 You give more credence to the silenced person the moment you shut them up, because then they can play the victim and they say, they're trying to shut me up because I have something that everyone else wants and I'm a threat to them.

01:07:17.000 No, you're not. 1.00

01:07:18.000 You're just a fool. 1.00

01:07:18.000 And those people have too much power. 1.00

01:07:21.000 And so the minute that you start to enforce speech laws like they do in Europe based on specific political opinions, regardless of how reprehensible they are, then you actually give credence to them.

01:07:32.000 This is why in Germany, where they do not allow swastikas, they do not allow Nazi paraphernalia, their white nationalist, awful movement is actually gaining traction because it has like a rebellious underbelly. 0.53

01:07:44.000 No, no, no. 0.53

01:07:45.000 Let me be very clear.

01:07:46.000 Bring your bad ideas publicly so decent people can cross-examine you so we can see who you are, we can talk to you and convince the public otherwise.

01:07:55.000 This is a hard argument for some young people to hear because they're like, it's so hateful, it's so awful, it deteriorates our country.

01:08:01.000 No, no, no.

01:08:02.000 Those ideas, if they spread, deteriorate our country.

01:08:06.000 But good people will speak in opposition to them.

01:08:09.000 And that's why I'm a big believer.

01:08:10.000 I'm a free speech absolutist through and through.

01:08:14.000 And I think that the utility of speech is what makes human beings different than any other type of being on the planet.

01:08:22.000 Aristotle said we are the speaking beings, that our capacity to communicate is who we are.

01:08:29.000 And I actually think it creates an act of citizenry when bad people are allowed to speak.

01:08:34.000 When really bad people are given a permit, all of a sudden the entire population is like, that's disgusting.

01:08:40.000 Let's go get our yard signs, go make them, and we're going to go speak out against them.

01:08:44.000 They're kind of on their toes.

01:08:45.000 They're looking out for things.

01:08:47.000 All of a sudden, if the government becomes the speech police and they start calling the shots, like, oh, the government will get rid of the bad guys for me.

01:08:54.000 And they kind of become complacent.

01:08:56.000 They become less active.

01:08:57.000 They become less responsible for the country around them.

01:09:00.000 And so I don't draw a line.

01:09:01.000 That's me.

01:09:02.000 I say that you should allow all opinions to be heard.

01:09:04.000 Now, it was slander.

01:09:06.000 If you make the intentional publication when you're behind a news outlet with false information, knowingly false information, I think that you should be able to be sued in court more generously with the libel laws that we have in this country.

01:09:19.000 And so the difference is that if you know you have materially false information and you publish it to a big, wide readership, that is not freedom of speech.

01:09:27.000 That is slander.

01:09:28.000 And it's very clear what the Supreme Court has said with that.

01:09:30.000 And so I hope that helps answer your question.

01:09:32.000 So thank you.

01:09:36.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:09:36.000 Thank you again for being here.

01:09:38.000 My name is Zach Scornovako, and I was hoping to ask you a little bit more specific about the struggle that our country's small businesses are facing.

01:09:48.000 My mom owns a small business in Southern California that was closed for five months due to coronavirus.

01:09:55.000 She's now scraping by on the brink of closure and we're looking to see the Congress pass possibly some stimulus checks.

01:10:03.000 Do you think that is a responsible response to what our small businesses are facing?

01:10:08.000 I mean, do you think this stimulus will help boost the economy?

01:10:11.000 Or do you think it's going to leave us in an even bigger debt?

01:10:15.000 There are parts of, great question, there are parts of the stimulus that I spoke out against.

01:10:18.000 The part I didn't was the PPP because these businesses were forced to close their business.

01:10:23.000 They did not willingly do this.

01:10:25.000 They did not make bad decisions.

01:10:27.000 At gunpoint, they were forced to close their businesses.

01:10:30.000 Therefore, I think the government, I think it's under Article 5, the government can't take property from you without reimbursing you.

01:10:37.000 I think they deserve, every small business and business in this country deserve the right to be able to receive those funding.

01:10:44.000 And also, what has happened to our hospitality businesses, our hotel businesses, our restaurants, our bigger restaurants.

01:10:50.000 I'm not just talking about the small ones because, look, $10 million of PPP sounds like a lot, but all of a sudden, if you're running a hotel chain with 400 hotels across the country, you're like, I don't know, 10 million, that kind of caps out.

01:11:01.000 So I think that that was perfectly fine.

01:11:05.000 Is it stimulative?

01:11:06.000 Probably not, but it will help end the suffering.

01:11:10.000 So I don't think we should call it a stimulus.

01:11:11.000 I think the best stimulus is free market growth and reopening our country.

01:11:15.000 We want a stimulus, open America.

01:11:16.000 That's the best stimulus we could possibly have.

01:11:18.000 And so, but it is, it is, I think it is necessary.

01:11:24.000 The part of the stimulus that really drove me nuts was the $75 million for national public radio, the $50 million for PBS so that we can pay them through taxpayer dollars to attack people like me.

01:11:35.000 It just is completely outrageous.

01:11:37.000 And so, but you're going to get that graft and corruption and all this sort of nonsense.

01:11:40.000 So thank you.

01:11:41.000 Next question.

01:11:42.000 Hi, I'm Rand Bradshaw.

01:11:44.000 I'm a junior at Highland Park High School.

01:11:45.000 Thank you for being here.

01:11:46.000 Thank you.

01:11:47.000 In our U.S. history classes, we're taught that there was a party switch, even though this is controversial.

01:11:52.000 What's your opinion on it?

01:11:54.000 And did it actually happen?

01:11:55.000 What a great question.

01:11:56.000 This is one of the greatest lies taught to our young people.

01:11:59.000 The party's never switched, and I can prove it to you.

01:12:02.000 I'll prove it to you through a couple different ways.

01:12:04.000 Number one, why is it as the South got considerably less racist, it got more Republican?

01:12:10.000 In order for their argument to hold footing, it would have to be as the South got less racist, then it got more Democrat, right?

01:12:17.000 Or it stayed Democrat.

01:12:18.000 Why is it that that party switched as the South got way more diverse and accepting that Republicans started to be elected in huge numbers?

01:12:27.000 There is no definitive switch.

01:12:29.000 What did end up happening, though, was one person, Shrom Thurman, that did switch parties towards the end of his life.

01:12:35.000 And that gets pinpointed as the singular switch as the entire parties moved from one to the other.

01:12:42.000 Here's another good argument for you. 0.78

01:12:44.000 Why is it that Jimmy Carter announced the re-election campaign in one of the hometowns of the KKK, a Southern Democrat in 1976?

01:12:56.000 In 1980, I'm sorry, when he was running for re-election against Reagan, it completely blurs the lines on the timeline.

01:13:01.000 It's the Republican Party, and this is the greatest argument of all of them.

01:13:04.000 It's the Republican Party when we were founded as the Republican Party in Ripon, Wisconsin, that said skin color does not matter.

01:13:11.000 It's the Republican Party that passed the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendment and the Civil Rights Act and was the first party to have blacks serve in the United States Senate and the United States Congress.

01:13:20.000 It's the Democrat Party in the 1860s that said skin color matters.

01:13:25.000 Fast forward to today, which party says skin color matters?

01:13:29.000 The Democrats.

01:13:30.000 They've always cared about skin color, not on characters, not on actions, but they say skin color means something. 0.65

01:13:35.000 They have always been a party that has wanted to have control over black people.

01:13:39.000 They've just changed the way they've done it.

01:13:40.000 The movie Uncle Tom articulates that so beautifully.

01:13:44.000 Now, mind you, well-seasoned academics make the argument that There seems to have been a transformational shift.

01:13:52.000 There's a direct ideological line of the Republican Party of 1864 and the Republican Party of 2020.

01:13:52.000 There is not.

01:13:59.000 It's a party that wants aspiration and opportunity for all people, regardless of skin color.

01:14:04.000 It's a party that wants people to break out of their current condition to something better.

01:14:08.000 There's a continuous philosophical line from the Democrat Party from 1864 to 2020, that we're going to take care of you and you're going to do what we tell you to do.

01:14:17.000 That's what they said in 1864, and that's what they're saying in 2020. 0.73

01:14:21.000 The most tragic thing that happened was after the Civil Rights Act was passed, which was by Republicans, by the way, reluctantly signed into law by a Texan, Lyndon Baines Johnson, that Lyndon Baines Johnson passed the Great Society Act, which ended up being one of the worst things that ever could have possibly happened for black urban life in this country, where we subsidized fatherlessness, where we destroyed black businesses, we verticalized the black community in Chicago and the urban cities of our country.

01:14:51.000 And you see it in the approach of how the Democrat Party to this day talks to black voters. 0.97

01:14:59.000 If you don't vote for me, you ain't black. 0.93

01:15:01.000 Joe Biden's exact words.

01:15:04.000 Joe Biden in the 1970s was friends with segregationists.

01:15:08.000 He eulogized them. 0.77

01:15:10.000 He said that very clearly in the 1990s that our inner cities were jungles, black men were super predators, and he authored the Clinton crime bill.

01:15:18.000 Which president signed the First Step Act? 0.70

01:15:20.000 Was it a Republican or a Democrat? 0.83

01:15:22.000 There is a concerted effort by the Democrats to keep black people, as Candace Owens says, on the metaphorical plantation. 0.71

01:15:30.000 Good luck saying that tomorrow in class, but so you could give Candace's book and just kind of just walk away. 0.68

01:15:38.000 But they say that Nixon had a southern strategy.

01:15:42.000 Well, why is it that Dwight D. Eisenhower then, in 1950 and 1954, yeah, that's right.

01:15:50.000 No, I'm not sorry, 1952 and 1956.

01:15:51.000 I'm sorry, when he ran for president, 1952, 1956, why is it that he started to win southern states like Tennessee and Arkansas well before the great switch, they say that happened?

01:16:01.000 Republican Party of Eisenhower was the party that sent in the federal troops to desegregate the American South.

01:16:07.000 The Republican Party of Eisenhower was the party that demanded the federal government side with the lawsuits on behalf of the Civil Rights Act.

01:16:16.000 And it was Dwight D. Eisenhower that stood in opposition of the segregated armed forces in the 1950s.

01:16:22.000 Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower.

01:16:24.000 And so I encourage, you know, there's some great videos on this, but no, the party's never switched.

01:16:28.000 But what are they really saying when they say the party switched?

01:16:31.000 They're saying this.

01:16:32.000 They're saying that, oh, no, we, the Democrats, we used to be Republicans, so we used to be the good guys.

01:16:40.000 And now we're Democrats and we're still the good guys.

01:16:43.000 That's what they're really trying to say.

01:16:45.000 They're trying to blur the lines of the moral high ground. 0.61

01:16:48.000 But make no mistake, it is Republicans that passed for the woman's right to vote, argued for the woman's right to vote.

01:16:54.000 It is Republicans that passed, like I said, 13, 14, 15th Amendment.

01:16:57.000 It's Republicans that have always cared about every single citizen made in the image of God.

01:17:02.000 Always.

01:17:03.000 Stand proudly on that fact.

01:17:05.000 Thank you.

01:17:13.000 Hey, Charlie.

01:17:14.000 I just want to begin by thanking you as I've become to frequently listen to your podcast.

01:17:19.000 Thank you.

01:17:20.000 I have learned why I believe what I do, and I've grown spiritually in ways I didn't even know is possible.

01:17:26.000 So thank you for that.

01:17:27.000 That's very kind of you.

01:17:27.000 Thank you.

01:17:28.000 Thank you.

01:17:29.000 My question is, is you see the left continuing to provide a narrative that says that because of someone's skin color, that they can't succeed in America, that because you're black, you can't succeed.

01:17:40.000 And I feel like if I was born a black American today, that I would have no motivation at all to succeed because I'm told that the system completely works against me.

01:17:49.000 My question to you is, how do Republicans combat this narrative and fight against this and start to get black Americans to believe in the American dream that they have?

01:18:00.000 It's a phenomenal question.

01:18:02.000 I think it's already starting to happen.

01:18:03.000 And one thing that I'm very proud of that we have done at Turning Point USA is we are on the cutting edge of empowering a lot of these very popular black voices in the conservative movement.

01:18:13.000 Brandon Tatum, Candace Owens, Terrence Williams.

01:18:16.000 Many of them got their political start with us at Turning Point USA.

01:18:19.000 And look at the impact that they're having.

01:18:21.000 I mean, we're talking about millions of people.

01:18:23.000 We at Turning Point USA hosted the first Black Leadership Summit.

01:18:27.000 We did two years in a row.

01:18:28.000 And we've always, I think we were ahead of the curve there.

01:18:31.000 And we put lots of resources and lots of time.

01:18:34.000 And you could start to see that really starting to grow.

01:18:37.000 So here's a little nugget for you that's really interesting.

01:18:40.000 The most successful immigrants to America are Nigerian Americans. 0.93

01:18:45.000 More successful, more wealthy, higher income than white Americans. 0.96

01:18:49.000 If it's impossible for people of black skin color to succeed, why do Nigerian Americans do so well in our country? 0.66

01:18:56.000 Well, maybe because it's possible for anyone to succeed in this country. 0.98

01:18:59.000 Nigerian Americans do three things really well.

01:19:03.000 They value family above all and they have some of the lowest divorce rates in the country.

01:19:06.000 They value education and they graduate high school and college with little debt at very, very high rates.

01:19:12.000 And the third thing that they do, they graduate high school.

01:19:16.000 The third thing is they're incredibly enterprising, business-minded people.

01:19:21.000 So you do those three things.

01:19:23.000 No matter your skin color, you can succeed in this country.

01:19:26.000 People say there's white privilege.

01:19:28.000 It's nonsense.

01:19:29.000 No one has any privilege in this country based on the color of their skin.

01:19:32.000 There is wealth privilege.

01:19:33.000 There absolutely is wealth privilege.

01:19:34.000 LeBron James's kids will have advantages that most of you will never have.

01:19:39.000 Better doctors, better access to transportation, better communication.

01:19:42.000 And people say, well, more white people are wealthy than black people in this country. 1.00

01:19:47.000 On its surface, that's absolutely true. 1.00

01:19:49.000 There's also twice as many white people that are in poverty than black people in this country. 0.89

01:19:53.000 There's plenty of white people that live in poverty.

01:19:55.000 Just drive through rural Texas and Appalachia, Kentucky, and Tennessee.

01:19:59.000 There's plenty of people that struggle regardless of skin color in this country.

01:20:03.000 The other thing is this. 0.61

01:20:04.000 Why is it that the white community does 20% better on income and wealth than the black community in this country? 0.86

01:20:11.000 The number one reason is the fatherlessness rate. 0.97

01:20:14.000 You can point to the fatherlessness rate as the number one predictor of success in this country, not skin color. 0.78

01:20:19.000 Now, the white Americans are not the wealthiest in this country at all.

01:20:24.000 Vietnamese, Korean, Chinese, and Japanese Americans do far better than the average white person in this country, including Indian Americans who have skin and melanin content closest to black Americans. 1.00

01:20:35.000 I thought it's impossible for people of dark skin color to succeed in this country.

01:20:40.000 The Constitution was not written in Korean. 1.00

01:20:42.000 You can succeed no matter who you are in this country.

01:20:44.000 The data is there.

01:20:46.000 If you apply yourself, if you work hard, if you believe in the system, this thing is built for anyone with aspiration and it is immoral.

01:20:53.000 In fact, I think it is so incredibly dangerous, disgusting, and wrong to talk to young black people to have them lose faith in this system. 0.51

01:21:03.000 Because that's the real tragedy, is a young black kid in this country is told that you can't succeed, and they're starting to believe it. 0.95

01:21:10.000 And then they just disengage and they're less likely to do the things that we know you need to do.

01:21:16.000 And what's really amazing, people say America is a racist country.

01:21:21.000 I go 180.

01:21:22.000 We're the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world.

01:21:25.000 Period.

01:21:26.000 Bottom line, least racist.

01:21:28.000 Show me another country that has this many languages, this many cultures, this many skin colors.

01:21:33.000 Every country on the planet is represented in this country.

01:21:36.000 What other country can brag through that?

01:21:38.000 None.

01:21:39.000 Abilene, Texas, 80% Republican Trump support.

01:21:45.000 Just elected a black mayor. 0.95

01:21:47.000 Show me how racist the Republican Party is and how racist the conservatives are in this country. 0.98

01:21:52.000 There is zero correlation to your skin color to anything that happens in this country.

01:21:56.000 Systemic police brutality does not exist.

01:21:56.000 Zero.

01:21:59.000 A white person is twice as likely to be shot and killed by a police officer in this country, twice as likely in a black person. 0.99

01:22:04.000 In fact, a black person is 18 and a half times more likely to shot and shoot and kill a police officer than a police officer is to shoot and kill them. 0.57

01:22:12.000 In fact, according to a Department of Justice survey done by Barack Obama's own DOJ, they found that police departments across the country, 400 of them, were systemically un-racist. 0.97

01:22:22.000 That police departments go above and beyond to not engage in controversial conduct when it comes to black people in this country.

01:22:29.000 But instead, we pick four or five highly emotive, very controversial, nuanced examples, and we just indict an experiment that has 330 million people and we say, we must be awful. 0.97

01:22:40.000 That is what infants do.

01:22:42.000 That is not what adults do.

01:22:44.000 We should look at data.

01:22:45.000 We should look at empirical evidence.

01:22:46.000 We should look at the nuance.

01:22:47.000 And here's the final thing.

01:22:48.000 If we were so racist, why is that 3 million black people immigrated to this country since 1980?

01:22:54.000 3 million.

01:22:56.000 3 million people, 2 million from Africa, 1 million from the Caribbean.

01:22:59.000 The reason is that we're actually the greatest place for any person of any skin color to succeed.

01:23:03.000 And black Americans in this country are the 18th wealthiest country on the planet.

01:23:08.000 If you just take black Americans, there's a growing black middle class.

01:23:11.000 And thanks to President Trump, lowest ever black poverty rate, lowest ever black unemployment rate, highest ever black entrepreneurship rate, opportunity zones, historical black college universities.

01:23:21.000 Most of that does not get conveyed or communicated in the media.

01:23:24.000 So what we have to do is get back to the American idea of e pluribas unum, which is this. 0.72

01:23:29.000 Your skin color means nothing. 0.93

01:23:31.000 It's completely irrelevant. 1.00

01:23:33.000 I don't care, and you shouldn't either. 0.99

01:23:34.000 In fact, if you care, you're a racist. 0.65

01:23:36.000 I don't want to talk about people's skin color anymore. 0.86

01:23:39.000 If you're trying to tell me I have certain privilege and you don't, or you can't be racist in all this, then you care about melanin a lot more than I do.

01:23:45.000 And you know who used to do this in this country? 0.56

01:23:47.000 The KKK.

01:23:50.000 That's what we got away from everybody.

01:23:52.000 That's why we had a civil rights movement in this country. 0.89

01:23:54.000 We had a moment in time that I grew up in, and many of you remember just 10 years ago, where we said, if you work hard and play by the rules, you can succeed regardless of skin color.

01:24:04.000 We have to get back to a country where we stop looking at people based on the melanin content and hyper-racializing things because we don't.

01:24:11.000 We all know that it's not going to be good where we're headed.

01:24:13.000 Thank you for your question.

01:24:13.000 We'll do one more.

01:24:20.000 First, I wanted to say thank you for having us.

01:24:23.000 My name is Lila DeVega.

01:24:24.000 I'm a senior at Highland Park High School.

01:24:27.000 And I was wondering if policies regarding COVID-19, such as social distancing and wearing a mask, will be loosened after the election.

01:24:35.000 And if so, what will it look like if Trump wins versus if Biden wins?

01:24:39.000 Yeah, I have a feeling that, great question.

01:24:40.000 Thank you for being here.

01:24:41.000 I have a feeling that if this once this election comes, a lot of these things are going to be lifted.

01:24:46.000 I'm all for individual liberty and individual choice.

01:24:49.000 I actually believe people say my body, my choice?

01:24:52.000 Okay, great.

01:24:52.000 Sure.

01:24:54.000 If you believe masks work, then you should have the liberty to do that.

01:24:56.000 That's fine.

01:24:57.000 Dr. Fauci said himself, it does not work back in March.

01:24:59.000 He said it again in April, and they reversed position.

01:25:01.000 I have not seen the white paper that supports that.

01:25:04.000 I am very, very skeptical against government central authorities telling people how to live their lives, especially with ever-changing narratives and contradicting data and the human costs that we have seen.

01:25:18.000 I think it is so incredibly immoral to make high school kids socially distanced and wear masks.

01:25:23.000 There is no evidence to support this whatsoever.

01:25:26.000 No high school in America should do this.

01:25:27.000 Zero, none.

01:25:30.000 There is no evidence whatsoever to support countries that locked down, that had any sort of change in hospitalization or death rates, or countries that didn't.

01:25:38.000 There is no data whatsoever to support.

01:25:40.000 And I'm willing to go toe-to-toe with anyone on this because we have the data.

01:25:43.000 And Heather McDonald did an unbelievable story on this, that wear masks or not.

01:25:47.000 Again, if you believe they work, then wear one.

01:25:49.000 Please.

01:25:50.000 That's what liberty is all about.

01:25:51.000 If you are at risk, make good choices.

01:25:54.000 But don't go to the government, which has all the power and prevent other people from being able to make choices to assemble, especially when it comes to young people.

01:26:02.000 It is a travesty what we have done in this country.

01:26:05.000 Canceling prom, graduation, spring sports, summer sports.

01:26:10.000 We see the numbers.

01:26:12.000 There will be a decade of unraveling because what we have done in this country.

01:26:15.000 And so a lot of this will go away after the election.

01:26:18.000 I just think that there's actually going to be a lot of unintended consequences.

01:26:21.000 I think that a lot of people are so fed up with this nonsense that they're actually going to look to the one party that wants a reopening of this country.

01:26:27.000 And I actually think a lot of the one-size-fits-all policies that have gone towards this thing is actually going to backfire tremendously.

01:26:36.000 I really do.

01:26:36.000 So thank you so much for your question.

01:26:38.000 We appreciate that.

01:26:42.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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01:26:58.000 I can't sit still.

01:26:59.000 We have six days.

01:27:00.000 I will not be able to live with myself if Joe Biden becomes president of the United States and I didn't give everything I possibly could.

01:27:06.000 I encourage you to go submit your ballots, vote early, get your friends to do the same, obsess over it.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 28, 2020

How Donald Trump Can Win and What You Can do to Help

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