The Charlie Kirk Show - June 12, 2023


How Donald Trump Can "Win" the Indictment Issue


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Donald Trump has been indicted for treason and conspiracy to commit espionage. What does this mean for the future of the Trump administration and the country? Is this a good or bad thing? What does it mean for our democracy?

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00:00:01.000 What positives could come out of this ridiculous indictment?
00:00:04.000 We walk through that and also some of the details of the indictment that are really significant.
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00:02:12.000 I have right here the indictment.
00:02:14.000 The indictment of President Donald J. Trump.
00:02:20.000 Donald Trump will be in Miami, Florida tomorrow and will be officially indicted.
00:02:26.000 I guess he's already indicted, but tomorrow is the process to go through all that.
00:02:31.000 It's really something.
00:02:32.000 I encourage you to read it.
00:02:34.000 Several people over the weekend, the snobby center-right people that think they're conservative, that want to get rid of Trump, they say, read the indictment.
00:02:42.000 It's very serious.
00:02:44.000 It's a very serious indictment.
00:02:47.000 So I read the indictment.
00:02:51.000 This is paperwork stuff.
00:02:53.000 That's what this all is.
00:02:55.000 And you know what's interesting?
00:02:56.000 When you read the indictment, the first question you ask is, did the government get all their documents back?
00:03:01.000 Yep, they did.
00:03:03.000 The government got all their pieces of paper back.
00:03:06.000 Did Donald Trump sell the secrets to the enemy?
00:03:09.000 Did Donald Trump use this information as a way to get money to the Trump Foundation?
00:03:15.000 Did Donald Trump smash a bunch of phones and delete a bunch of emails or obstruct justice?
00:03:21.000 No, they got all their documents back.
00:03:23.000 This is a paperwork dispute, literally.
00:03:26.000 Now, the Presidential Records Act does not have a criminal component to it.
00:03:29.000 So they had to broaden this to the Espionage Act, which was brought forward by Woodrow Wilson.
00:03:36.000 This is a big problem with our criminal code, is that they go way backwards into the criminal code of antiquated laws that were written for a different time.
00:03:45.000 By the way, the Espionage Act never should have been passed.
00:03:47.000 It was used to put nearly 2,000 political dissidents under Woodrow Wilson in jail.
00:03:52.000 They did this with the Foreign Agent Registration Act, which was in 1930s anti-Nazi law that was used potentially against Michael Flynn and others.
00:04:02.000 So they resurrect these old laws that would never be used against Democrats to go after Republicans and people on the center right that they don't like, threats to the regime.
00:04:11.000 Now, they like to broaden it.
00:04:12.000 They say 37 count indictment. 1.00
00:04:14.000 You could have had Hillary Clinton on a 10,000 count indictment for all the emails that she deleted. 1.00
00:04:19.000 Paperwork. 1.00
00:04:20.000 We indict now a former president as a paperwork process thing.
00:04:24.000 And I have to hear the bloviation of the people on television.
00:04:27.000 Oh, this is very serious.
00:04:28.000 Do you know what is serious?
00:04:30.000 Serious is having someone like Bill Clinton fly with underage girls to an island.
00:04:35.000 That actually has my curiosity, not paperwork.
00:04:39.000 And they say, oh, well, you know, it's because of nuclear secrets.
00:04:42.000 He was the president of the United States.
00:04:43.000 He could declassify whatever he wants.
00:04:46.000 Did somebody end up stealing one of those documents?
00:04:48.000 Did somebody end up photocopying one of those documents?
00:04:51.000 Now, we're going to go through some of the details here in this indictment.
00:04:54.000 I encourage you to read it.
00:04:56.000 I'll also summarize it so you don't have to.
00:04:59.000 It's just beyond shocking that they were able to pierce the attorney-client privilege veil to get Trump's own attorneys to testify against him. 0.53
00:05:07.000 It's such a ridiculous threshold to be able to get to.
00:05:12.000 Of course, all this was built on the prerequisite of raiding Mar-a-Lago and then having his attorneys testify against him.
00:05:21.000 So we'll get into all the details of this.
00:05:24.000 But I want to have a different approach to begin today.
00:05:26.000 Because it seems as if on most right-wing media and conservatives, they are focused on the negatives of this.
00:05:33.000 Wow, this is going to be really tough and he might have to stand trial and all this.
00:05:36.000 I'm a big believer, and this is the attitude that I've brought every single day to Turning Point USA.
00:05:41.000 This is the attitude we have on this show.
00:05:42.000 It's the attitude that has built Donald Trump's business empire and made him president of the United States, is that you have a choice in life.
00:05:51.000 There's very few things you are able to completely control.
00:05:54.000 One of the things you are able to control is your attitude towards less than desirable circumstances.
00:06:00.000 You have agency.
00:06:02.000 You have will.
00:06:03.000 I would say you have free will.
00:06:05.000 You see, the prevailing dogma is that this is going to hurt Donald Trump, that this is a deathblow to his candidacy, even if convicted.
00:06:14.000 But I reject the premise.
00:06:17.000 The old adage is 10% of life is what happens to you.
00:06:20.000 90% of life is how you respond.
00:06:23.000 And you know this in just basic PR tactics and in business, you can use the enemy's weight against them, but it takes a mindset shift.
00:06:33.000 Donald Trump is the best at this.
00:06:35.000 His entire career, he has used literal leverage and metaphorical leverage against people who wished him harm.
00:06:41.000 When he owed a bunch of money to the banks, he got all the banks in the room and he said, I'm too big to default on.
00:06:46.000 You're going to have to do a deal with me.
00:06:47.000 When Donald Trump saw that Woolman Rink was going in the wrong direction, he intervened and used it to his advantage to save Woolman Rink and get the project done very quickly.
00:06:58.000 He did that with the convention center.
00:07:00.000 He did it with the Plaza Hotel.
00:07:01.000 He did it with the formerly Commodore Hotel and turned it into Hyatt Hotel.
00:07:05.000 His whole life, and he wrote about this in the Art of the Deal, and I encourage you to read it because he's now in the highest stakes situation.
00:07:14.000 He finds himself in his career.
00:07:16.000 His whole life has been an intentional set of circumstances where he chooses to use something negative towards a positive.
00:07:28.000 From Bob Mueller's investigation to what I consider to be a moment that we can learn from.
00:07:36.000 You see, we forget that Donald Trump has had his back against the wall time and time and time again.
00:07:42.000 Why is it?
00:07:43.000 What is it about this man that makes it that he's always able to escape and grow stronger?
00:07:49.000 Is it because he has some sort of guardian angel around him?
00:07:53.000 Some people speculate yes, but I think the answer is far more simple.
00:07:58.000 Why do we have Teflon Don?
00:08:00.000 What is it?
00:08:01.000 It's because he embraces a certain attitude that is proven to be successful.
00:08:08.000 It is not pathological positive thinking.
00:08:13.000 It is, I'm going to choose an attitude to use whatever might be dealt to me as negative and turn it into a positive.
00:08:22.000 Mind you, most humanity thinks this is insane.
00:08:27.000 Most people believe that the circumstances that are less than desirable that are dealt to them is nothing but a negative.
00:08:33.000 But Donald Trump embraces a contrarian view of life that has proven to be very successful.
00:08:40.000 For example, the one instance that was supposed to be the deathblow.
00:08:44.000 If you think this indictment is big and all the rankering, let me take you back in time.
00:08:51.000 Let's go back into the time machine to something I lived through, something that was supposed to end his campaign, something that was supposed to cripple him, something that quite honestly was met with more bipartisan injury, insults, the Billy Bush tape.
00:09:09.000 The Billy Bush tape was supposed to be the end of Donald J. Trump.
00:09:15.000 We forget because it was so many years ago, but it was across the board.
00:09:21.000 How can somebody talk like this?
00:09:23.000 And yes, it was locker room talk, not defensible in polite society.
00:09:28.000 A lot of people talk that way.
00:09:31.000 That was now almost seven years ago.
00:09:35.000 Many people said he is done, but Donald Trump used it to his advantage.
00:09:40.000 How could Donald Trump use such a tape to potentially win over suburban women?
00:09:45.000 How could Donald Trump use such an quote incriminating moment when he's running against a woman?
00:09:52.000 How did he?
00:09:53.000 Well, Donald Trump looked at it ahead of him and he used the momentum that was against him to his advantage.
00:10:00.000 Donald Trump said, fine, I'm going to run a campaign based on my instincts.
00:10:04.000 And all you DC consultants that have now resigned because of this tape, I'm going to trust my gut.
00:10:09.000 It was Donald Trump unshackled.
00:10:12.000 It was Donald Trump all of a sudden where he came up with the mantra, drain the swamp.
00:10:16.000 It was Donald Trump who then came up with the one-liners.
00:10:19.000 After that, Donald Trump said, despite the protests of his consultants at the time, you're going to be in jail.
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00:10:29.000 He used the overwhelming hurricane tsunami of the Billy Bush tapes and turned it into energy and momentum that won him the presidency.
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00:11:20.000 So what positives could potentially come out of this?
00:11:24.000 Well, again, I just want to reiterate, Donald Trump has built a whole career, having his back against the wall, having to declare bankruptcy, and using it to his advantage.
00:11:33.000 And it is a lesson for us all.
00:11:34.000 When you feel as if the odds are overwhelming, there is always a positive that you can identify.
00:11:42.000 But it takes deliberate and intentional focus.
00:11:48.000 It takes precision in thinking.
00:11:50.000 Victor Frankl is the best on this in man's search for meaning.
00:11:55.000 Victor Frankl in the book Man's Search for Meaning in a concentration camp.
00:12:00.000 You think you're having a tough day.
00:12:01.000 Victor Frankl was in a concentration camp and found meaning in suffering.
00:12:06.000 He found meaning in this hellish circumstances around him.
00:12:10.000 And you might say, what on earth could Victor Frankl in a concentration camp possibly find meaningful?
00:12:18.000 What could he find?
00:12:20.000 And he said, My purpose will now be surviving so that I can write a book about this experience to educate millions and millions of other people.
00:12:30.000 Mindset shift.
00:12:31.000 That takes agency.
00:12:33.000 You see, the rest of the world and largely the secular world and even some of the religious world, but the secular world, is they think life happens to you.
00:12:43.000 That you're nothing more than a recipient of the cause and effect of everything around you and you are helpless.
00:12:51.000 What built the West is a different belief is that, yes, life can happen to you, but largely, life is the attitude you present to the rest of the world.
00:13:04.000 Victor Frankl called this logo therapy.
00:13:07.000 And I just want to push back on some of the overly negative sentiments that I'm hearing from people.
00:13:12.000 Oh, Charlie, it's over.
00:13:13.000 The country is dead.
00:13:14.000 That could be true.
00:13:15.000 But then the next question is, but then what?
00:13:18.000 But then what?
00:13:21.000 Do you use what could be considered to be nothing but negative as a great blessing?
00:13:27.000 Yes, it takes effort.
00:13:30.000 Yes, you have to reject the chattering class, Operation Mockingbird. 1.00
00:13:35.000 Now, in a primary, it's already being said that this can work to Donald Trump's advantage, that this can work to benefit him.
00:13:45.000 ABC's Rick Klein indictments are not hurting Trump in the polls.
00:13:49.000 Play cut five.
00:13:51.000 There's nothing in polling right now that suggests that Donald Trump is being hurt by federal indictments, by any indictments.
00:13:58.000 The case of New York from a couple of months ago, it may actually have helped his standing.
00:14:01.000 Look at this.
00:14:02.000 This is our 538 polling average.
00:14:04.000 Back on April 4th, when those charges against Donald Trump in Manhattan were first unveiled, Donald Trump was leading Ron DeSantis, his closest rival, by about 20 points.
00:14:13.000 Now, you fast forward two months to this weekend, Donald Trump is leading DeSantis by 30 points plus.
00:14:20.000 For those who are saying that Donald Trump is done politically as a result of facing criminal charges, there's just no evidence of that yet.
00:14:26.000 There's just no evidence of that.
00:14:28.000 So the immediate positive is that Donald Trump is going to almost certainly win the Republican nomination.
00:14:35.000 All these other candidates, they are fumbling and mishandling this.
00:14:39.000 Chris Christie's super PAC is sending out text messages trying to troll Donald Trump.
00:14:43.000 Mike Pence since no one is above the law.
00:14:46.000 Vivek Ramaswamy, to his great credit, is going down to Miami tomorrow, actually listening to the clarion call I sent out.
00:14:53.000 Good job, Vivek.
00:14:55.000 We're not really seeing other candidates capitalize on this the way they should.
00:15:00.000 You see, the media thinks they should capitalize on this completely differently.
00:15:05.000 Morning Mika and others, they say, why are they not seizing on this?
00:15:08.000 Why are they not seizing on this?
00:15:10.000 Well, I agree they should just seize on it differently.
00:15:12.000 They should actually get parallel with Trump and in harmony with Trump as he is persecuted by an unelected, out-of-control Department of Justice, rogue Marxist prosecutor.
00:15:23.000 That is actually, they should use it to their personal advantage if they want to become nominee, but they're getting bad advice from consultants who hate Trump so much they can't see straight.
00:15:32.000 But I see tons of positives, not just for Trump, but to potentially for the country.
00:15:37.000 And you have to be clear, you can't talk yourself into delusion, but at the same time, you have to deal in reality. 0.98
00:15:44.000 This is a crummy, civilizational altering garbage indictment. 0.98
00:15:50.000 So you have a choice. 0.97
00:15:52.000 You give up, like some people are recommending in a lot of emails.
00:15:56.000 Charlie, I'm done.
00:15:57.000 I'm taken away.
00:15:58.000 Again, those are the Sunshine Patriots, summertime people.
00:16:00.000 They're going to go be on their boats while we're in the trenches.
00:16:03.000 Fine.
00:16:03.000 Or we can try to do the process, do the work of the deliberate effort of what good can come out of this.
00:16:12.000 And in fact, I think a lot of good can come out of this if we so choose to find the good out of this.
00:16:18.000 Not just good for Trump, but good for the Republican Party and good for even the country.
00:16:24.000 Is it possible that they overshot the target, that they overcharge, that they allowed themselves to be filled with the very passion that they're supposed to keep tempered?
00:16:34.000 Is it possible the government is going to do something that quote unquote backfires, but it takes intentional attitude adjustments?
00:16:42.000 And we're going to try to set the tone here on the Charlie Kirk show.
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00:19:09.000 What are the positives that we can gather from the Trump indictment?
00:19:15.000 Again, we're going to have some great legal minds to go through just the silliness of all this.
00:19:19.000 And I have to just say the great one, Mark Levin, he is built for moments like this.
00:19:24.000 Former chief of staff to attorney general, he has fought in one cases in court.
00:19:28.000 When Mark all of a sudden starts talking about stuff, I just, I am an astute listener like many of you.
00:19:35.000 What are the positives that can come out of this?
00:19:38.000 Number one, it is obvious that Donald Trump is so strong, such a threat, potentially so popular that they must deploy every extra constitutional measure possible.
00:19:49.000 It is also true that they're afraid that they cannot pull off 2020 again.
00:19:55.000 2020 was lightning in a bottle, and so many Republicans fell for it.
00:20:00.000 And I think President Donald Trump was the first one to tell you that he should have put Fauci on the sidelines, not let Burks there.
00:20:07.000 But they used the fake pagan religion of scientism, the fear of death, to over-exaggerate COVID, lock down the country, mask us up, make us feel unfamiliar with one another, put forward an idea pathogen of racial arson, then have Mark Zuckerberg come in with a bunch of money for drop boxes.
00:20:29.000 They censored their political opponents.
00:20:32.000 They had tabletop exercises.
00:20:33.000 I mean, 2020 was quote unquote the masterclass in deep state private companies, public health measures, public health measures, all at once, working in harmony.
00:20:44.000 And even with all of that, they were barely able to displace Donald Trump from power.
00:20:51.000 Barely.
00:20:52.000 It was like 10,000 votes in Arizona, like 8,000 votes in Georgia, and 22,000 votes in Wisconsin.
00:20:59.000 I can get the final numbers.
00:21:01.000 Those are all about approximations.
00:21:05.000 There is a fear in the Praetorian Guard.
00:21:08.000 There is a fear in the deep state.
00:21:10.000 There's a fear in the unelected, the administrative state, that they will be unable to replicate the sequence of events that happened in 2024.
00:21:21.000 Some of you are emailing us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:21:24.000 Or are they going to deploy another virus and all this?
00:21:26.000 I have no idea.
00:21:28.000 But it seems as if right now, Crossfire MAGA, 2024, the first salvo from the regime is indictments.
00:21:39.000 2016, they did not go full court press.
00:21:44.000 They did not go full court press.
00:21:46.000 2016, they did some stuff with Peter Strzokzhuk Smirk, Russia.
00:21:50.000 They thought Billy Bush was going to be it.
00:21:54.000 The FBI, the Department of Justice, Merrick Garland, who was supposed to be a Supreme Court justice, all these craven, power-hungry Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden and Chuck Hugh Schumer thought it was going to be an easy landing.
00:22:15.000 Donald Trump shocked the world.
00:22:16.000 Again, so much of what we are living through is based on the fact they did not expect him to win in 2016.
00:22:23.000 The surprise factor is everything.
00:22:27.000 They were taken off by guard.
00:22:28.000 They had their defenses down.
00:22:29.000 So now they are overcompensating.
00:22:31.000 They're overcompensating.
00:22:32.000 And yes, Donald Trump will likely be indicted in Georgia, and then he'll likely be indicted on January 6th stuff.
00:22:37.000 Do you see they're trying to increase the severity in each one of these, and I put severity in quotes, of each one of these indictments.
00:22:45.000 First, you start with some stupid thing with Stormy Daniels that no one even knows what he's indicted for, paperwork stuff.
00:22:50.000 And then you have for document retention stuff. 0.97
00:22:52.000 And then they're going to go with Fannie Willis in Georgia.
00:22:54.000 And then finally, they think they're going to have the quote unquote death blow with January 6th type stuff, like stuff that is basically sisters or cousins to quote unquote insurrection.
00:23:06.000 So they can finally label him as an insurrectionist.
00:23:08.000 The first positive, though, is that it is now a fact.
00:23:13.000 It is now something that we can say the most powerful elite people in our government believe that there is a chance Donald Trump can win the presidency again.
00:23:21.000 That should give you hope.
00:23:24.000 There are some people that say, oh, there's no way that he can win.
00:23:27.000 There is no way that he could do it.
00:23:28.000 No, no, no.
00:23:28.000 The way they're acting is out of absolute desperation.
00:23:32.000 They're also acting as if we are not going to, We're not going to leave anything on the table.
00:23:39.000 We are going to go all out and we're going to go out early.
00:23:42.000 The second positive that I can take away immediately is that if Donald Trump handles this in a certain way, we can get back to 2016 energy.
00:23:52.000 Donald Trump, after the Billy Bush tapes, ignored all of the advice of the people around him.
00:23:59.000 He said, in his Trumpian way, forget you.
00:24:03.000 There is a different word that he used with the same first letter, but let's just say, forget you. 1.00
00:24:10.000 All the advice to Trump was roll over and die. 0.99
00:24:12.000 Just surrender. 1.00
00:24:14.000 You're done.
00:24:15.000 And Donald Trump said, no, that's not how I built a world-class business.
00:24:20.000 That's not how I was able to save the Commodore Hotel and turn it into the high.
00:24:25.000 That's not how I did the Plaza deal, how I did the convention center deal.
00:24:27.000 No, no, no, no.
00:24:29.000 I'm going to fight and scrap.
00:24:31.000 That's what I've always done.
00:24:32.000 And it's so unusual because DC, especially Republican consultants and Republican advisors, are so weak.
00:24:40.000 They're so low testosterone that you have this alpha male that comes in who's built businesses and dealt with investigations and had to fight New York City Hall for 30 years and had to buy the air rights to Trump Tower over Tiffany. 0.88
00:24:55.000 This guy's a beast.
00:24:56.000 He's like, a Billy Bush tape? 0.90
00:24:58.000 Like, forget you.
00:24:59.000 I'm going to win this thing.
00:25:01.000 And again, only someone with those kind of multiple decades of scars and attacks and experience would have been able a month out from the election just to say, forget you.
00:25:14.000 I'm going to do what I want.
00:25:15.000 And an example of this, of course, is that you're going to be in jail is the response to the Billy Bush tape.
00:25:19.000 But the other example of this is Donald Trump, and this went everywhere.
00:25:24.000 Was Donald Trump, every one of his advisors said, don't say this, don't say this, don't say this, don't say this.
00:25:28.000 And Donald Trump famously said to black people, what do you have to lose?
00:25:35.000 And all of his consultants were burying their head in their hands.
00:25:39.000 And yet Donald Trump did significantly better with black voters than Willard Mitt Romney or John McCain.
00:25:46.000 Significantly better.
00:25:48.000 Play cut 11.
00:25:49.000 African American communities have suffered under Democratic control.
00:25:55.000 To those I say the following.
00:25:59.000 What do you have to lose?
00:26:03.000 And he was attacked as a racist.
00:26:05.000 And guess what?
00:26:06.000 In the state of Georgia and in the state of Wisconsin and the state of Pennsylvania and Michigan, all states that he won in 2016, he did better with blacks than traditional Republican candidates did, largely because of that message.
00:26:22.000 You can't say that.
00:26:24.000 You can't say that.
00:26:25.000 And Trump's like, okay, you guys have barely crossed the precipice of 2% support in the black community.
00:26:31.000 I'm probably not going to listen to you.
00:26:32.000 So Donald Trump trusted his instincts and said it clearly once Donald Trump was unshackled, when Donald Trump was no longer controlled.
00:26:44.000 In fact, he used the Billy Bush tape as an ability to be free of bad advice and to trust his instincts and talk to the American people directly.
00:26:56.000 He was contrarian and it worked.
00:27:00.000 If Donald Trump goes back to that 2016 energy and says, forget you and forget you and your talking points and stop, I personally don't like Donald Trump on a teleprompter.
00:27:12.000 I don't.
00:27:13.000 I like Donald Trump off the cuff with a couple things to talk about.
00:27:16.000 I like him extemporaneous.
00:27:18.000 I like him candid.
00:27:19.000 I want him to do his stand-up town hall type thing and talks directly with the American people.
00:27:26.000 I think teleprompter Trump is proven to be not successful nearly as much as Donald Trump in Waffle House, Donald Trump in McDonald's, Donald Trump talking directly to voters in East Palestine.
00:27:40.000 Donald Trump buying pizza for everybody.
00:27:43.000 He's built for it.
00:27:44.000 45 years of television.
00:27:45.000 The guy knows how to communicate with people.
00:27:47.000 And I'm not going to say any names, but some of the other people running for the presidency, holy moly, they don't know how to do retail politics.
00:27:54.000 I'm looking at these videos and I'm cringing and I say, okay, that's not going to work, especially in Iowa.
00:28:00.000 That dog's not going to hunt.
00:28:01.000 You can have you guess who I'm talking about.
00:28:04.000 The third positive that comes to mind, which is probably the most important, and this one will be the most difficult for President Donald Trump because he's going to want to make this about him.
00:28:15.000 And if I could make some advice, tell someone, I'm going to see Donald Trump in a couple of weeks.
00:28:18.000 I said this on the phone to him.
00:28:20.000 I'll say it again.
00:28:20.000 I'll say everything public that I say private, which is please try your best to make the indictments less about you, even though it is about you, and make it about a broad-based indictment of the administrative state.
00:28:34.000 Make it philosophical as much as you can, because President Trump believes this 100%.
00:28:40.000 They're putting the Constitution on trial.
00:28:42.000 They're putting our traditions on trial.
00:28:44.000 They're putting the idea of consent of the governed on trial.
00:28:48.000 Use this as a venue, albeit a frustrating and unprecedented venue, to articulate a 100-year slow-motion slide, which was brought to you by Woodrow Wilson with the birth of the administrative state.
00:29:05.000 Basically saying, I'm under indictment by the deep state because they know our movement has already indicted them.
00:29:13.000 That's a positive.
00:29:15.000 Donald Trump has an opportunity to expose and to bring to light a group of people, an organization, a community that likes to operate in the shadows.
00:29:28.000 The same group of people that Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us about.
00:29:32.000 The same people that, according to RFK, killed JFK.
00:29:36.000 The same people that wanted Richard Nixon gone.
00:29:41.000 The same people that have worked in treacherous subterranean ways post-World War II in the J. Edgar Hoover model of we're in charge, you're not in charge.
00:29:50.000 Donald Trump now has a once in a century opportunity to stare them down and offer a referendum on the administrative state.
00:30:01.000 Difficult?
00:30:02.000 Historic?
00:30:02.000 Yes.
00:30:03.000 Yes.
00:30:04.000 But if anyone can do it, Donald Trump can.
00:30:10.000 You know, I was asked by somebody in the media, Charlie, and they actually agreed with me, this member of the media, that Trump is going to win the nomination.
00:30:18.000 They said, but to the uninitiated, how do you explain Donald Trump's appeal to the Republican base?
00:30:25.000 Because this is how most people in the liberal media understand it.
00:30:30.000 And I just, this is a great picture here to kind of give an idea, and then I'll explain it away.
00:30:36.000 Again, this is just such full of lies, and it's just so dishonest. 0.98
00:30:40.000 It's Joe Scarborough screaming into the camera like a crazy person. 0.98
00:30:45.000 Is he taking Ozembic or something? 0.95
00:30:47.000 I don't know because he's acting insane.
00:30:48.000 Play cut four.
00:30:50.000 And this is what I've been saying till I'm blue in the face since 2017.
00:30:56.000 That is us.
00:30:57.000 People who actually give a damn about a president of the United States who steals nuclear secrets and then lies about it to the FBI and then lies about it when the FBI tries to retrieve nuclear secrets.
00:31:13.000 Things that are not his.
00:31:15.000 80%.
00:31:16.000 That is us.
00:31:19.000 That is us.
00:31:20.000 We are the majority, and we will stay the majority as long as these insurrectionists, weirdos, and freaks continue to say it's okay for Donald Trump to do whatever he wants to do. 0.93
00:31:34.000 Yeah, so he's calling you an insurrectionist, a weirdo, and a freak from MSNBC. 0.82
00:31:38.000 That should be considered a compliment.
00:31:40.000 So, Joe Scarborough's really becoming a caricature of himself.
00:31:44.000 But Scarborough talking about this is informative because that's how the regime media thinks about it.
00:31:50.000 Oh my goodness.
00:31:51.000 First of all, let's just go through stealing nuclear secrets as if Donald Trump did a mission impossible type suspension from the ceiling to avoid trying to trigger an alarm and had to like pick a lock and take out nuclear secrets.
00:31:51.000 I can't.
00:32:06.000 No, he took documents that were his as president under the Presidential Records Act.
00:32:10.000 It makes you think, why did NARA, the National Records Act, allow him to take all these boxes?
00:32:15.000 They probably did it and turned a blind eye, knowing that they might be able to use these boxes and the documents against him.
00:32:21.000 He had full power to declassify it.
00:32:23.000 And quite honestly, they got every single document returned.
00:32:26.000 I don't want to hear the bloviation or the lecturing about paperwork stuff while our country is being invaded. 0.98
00:32:33.000 We are running trillion-dollar deficits.
00:32:35.000 We have 110,000 people drug overdosing.
00:32:39.000 And I have to worry about the criminalization of paperwork, the criminalization of paperwork in boxes. 0.94
00:32:46.000 While Hillary Clinton deletes emails and Bill Clinton is on the Lita Express with children, Hillary Clinton is laundering money from foreign countries.
00:32:54.000 We have an outright crook as president of the United States, but I have to go get angry about paperwork.
00:33:00.000 And some conservatives, by the way, oh, these are very serious charges. 0.60
00:33:04.000 These are serious charges.
00:33:06.000 If you hate a man, you can make yourself believe that they're serious charges.
00:33:10.000 Every document returned, everything repossessed.
00:33:13.000 But let me get back to something I was, the point I was trying to make.
00:33:17.000 For the uninitiated, the people that say, how could Donald Trump be more popular after this?
00:33:23.000 It's because the Republican base, for better or for worse, I believe for better, and one of our team members thinks there's some trouble with this, but I think it's actually good.
00:33:32.000 They see the entire administrative state against them.
00:33:35.000 And they see this private-public partnership, this cabal and this cartel that have been fused together, that have gone through this merger, that it's been Deloitte and it's been McKinsey working with the Department of Commerce.
00:33:49.000 It has been Google working with the FTC to crush the ordinary American.
00:33:54.000 They see Donald Trump as a symbol.
00:33:57.000 It is the pathos and it is the ethos and less of the logos.
00:34:01.000 They see a man who is a defector from the billionaire lifestyle who came in to now sacrifice his lifestyle, his comfort, his nice life of being within billionaire circles to go fight for the forgotten man and woman.
00:34:23.000 And now that one guy, that one defector, just happens to be the recipient of the punishment of the administrative state.
00:34:31.000 And that creates a tribal, immovable, non-persuadable us versus them Republican base that sees him as a symbol.
00:34:42.000 I'm sorry for the other candidates.
00:34:44.000 You are losing your opportunity to gain traction.
00:34:47.000 He is only furthering, he's further solidifying his bond and his relationship with the Republican base.
00:34:53.000 The more they penalize him, the more they terrorize him, the more they smear him.
00:34:58.000 And if you don't see that, you're talking to consultants and donors way too much and not with the actual ordinary Republican-based voters themselves.
00:35:11.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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