The Charlie Kirk Show - How Gen Z Can Save America...No, Really!

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00:00:01.000 Isabelle Brown, former Turning Point USA chapter leader from Colorado State University, joins the program to talk about her book, The End of the Alphabet, How Gen Z Can Save America.

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00:01:48.000 They say Gen Z is going to be Jen Free, author of End of the Alphabet, How Gen Z Can Save America, and also former Turning Point USA chapter leader.

00:01:57.000 I will never remove that from the bio.

00:02:00.000 Isabelle, it's going to be 20 years from now, Isabelle.

00:02:02.000 I'm still going to mention that.

00:02:05.000 Well, that was my first step, Charlie, so we absolutely have to.

00:02:08.000 Thank you so much for having me on the show today.

00:02:10.000 Of course.

00:02:10.000 Thank you.

00:02:11.000 And I still think it was one of the best campus events we've ever had.

00:02:14.000 I remember it was terrific.

00:02:15.000 Isabelle, welcome to the program.

00:02:16.000 Tell us about your new book.

00:02:18.000 Thank you so much, Charlie.

00:02:19.000 I am in New York City right now, obviously, hence the hotel backdrop, to launch my new book as of yesterday, The End of the Alphabet, How Gen Z Can Save America.

00:02:29.000 It is already a number one Amazon bestseller in both the audiobook and the hardback copy.

00:02:35.000 But people are waking up to the reality that Gen Z is not this bygone conclusion, a write-off, this entitled lazy socialist generation that's destroying America. 0.89

00:02:46.000 We might be America's last chance for salvation and are shocking the world by being quite culturally conservative, the most we've seen since World War II for any American generation.

00:02:56.000 All right, so you're going to have to convince me, Isabelle, I'll play devil's advocate.

00:03:00.000 You know, when I think of Gen Z, they're staring at their phones. 0.99

00:03:03.000 They're doing dance videos.

00:03:06.000 How is Gen Z, how can Gen Z save the country? 1.00

00:03:12.000 Your pessimism is not alone, and in fact, is part of almost every interview I'm doing for the book.

00:03:17.000 And I think it's smart to acknowledge I understand where that's coming from.

00:03:20.000 You know, I like to say, quoting Stranger Things, one of my favorite TV shows of all time, that in 2024, Gen Z is living in the upside down in America. 0.91

00:03:30.000 We're living in a time that kind of looks like reality, and it kind of looks like what our parents told us their early 20s and teenage years were like.

00:03:37.000 It should be recognizable, but it's not.

00:03:39.000 Something is inherently wrong.

00:03:41.000 Up is down, left is right, men are women, and women are men. 1.00

00:03:44.000 I think we've all seen enough of the Dylan Mulvaney video this week to prove that.

00:03:48.000 And we're looking to right the ship again, turn right side up and seek a purpose greater than ourselves.

00:03:53.000 When I say Gen Z is the most conservative generation in 50 plus years, that's not necessarily in coherence with conservative politics at large, although I do believe it is trending in that direction, and there's a lot of data to support that.

00:04:06.000 I'm talking much larger than just politics, but culturally in America, too.

00:04:10.000 We're looking at a generation that has a 93% chance of still wanting to get married, even in a time where we have the lowest marriage rate in American history.

00:04:19.000 62% of us have already started our own businesses.

00:04:22.000 We're realizing, thanks to groups like Turning Point USA and your incredible work on exposing the fact that college is a scam.

00:04:29.000 We don't have to spend $250,000 on a degree in African underwater lesbian dance theory to be successful in the world. 1.00

00:04:37.000 We're eating real food.

00:04:38.000 We're throwing away our birth control.

00:04:39.000 We're quitting dating apps.

00:04:40.000 And so we're embracing this traditionally valued conservative culture and lifestyle that, as we know from Andrew Breitbart, will only trickle down further into politics.

00:04:50.000 And you're really starting to see that manifest with this next great group of voters, soon to be the largest voter bloc in American history.

00:04:57.000 There is evidence to show how Gen Z men are more right-wing than ever before. 0.67

00:05:05.000 You know, but we've had this conversation before, Isabel, and I try, I went on whatever.

00:05:10.000 I did my best.

00:05:11.000 You know, I tried, and I know we had a conversation about that.

00:05:15.000 How do we win over the young ladies? 0.99

00:05:17.000 Because when I go to campuses, I got to tell you, I've never seen such enthusiasm with young Gen Z men.

00:05:22.000 I mean, they're on fire.

00:05:24.000 They're dedicated.

00:05:24.000 They're ready to go.

00:05:26.000 We have some, you know, female support, but it's nowhere the same. 1.00

00:05:29.000 In fact, the young ladies are, we got some work to do.

00:05:34.000 So explain this.

00:05:35.000 Take as much time as you need.

00:05:37.000 What explains the sex distinction within Gen Z?

00:05:42.000 I love that you say we've got a lot of work to do because it insinuates we haven't given up quite yet.

00:05:47.000 And I think that's the perfect mentality to have with young women. 1.00

00:05:50.000 You're exactly correct.

00:05:51.000 Gen Z men are overwhelmingly conservative thanks to the work of you and Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro and these people that are really speaking to reviving masculinity. 0.84

00:06:01.000 Last time I was on the show, we talked about a poll that had just dropped that like 70% of current high school senior boys at age 17 are overwhelmingly conservative.

00:06:10.000 So we've done our part there and that's a very exciting thing to see.

00:06:14.000 But I think for women, it's not going to be as much of a difficult battle as people are thinking to turn Gen Z women more conservative.

00:06:22.000 Culturally, we're already doing that on our own.

00:06:26.000 You know, I'm seeing women from across the political spectrum wake up and realize that hormonal birth control is slow release poison and is slowly destroying both our physical health and our mental and emotional health. 0.87

00:06:38.000 So literally almost every young woman I talk to on high school and college campuses, even the leftists, say that they are overwhelmingly quitting birth control.

00:06:45.000 Women everywhere are starting to realize that dating apps have not led to any sort of happiness or liberation from a supposed patriarchy as they've been packaged to us, nor are they helping us find the one with these apps, quote unquote, designed to be deleted, as are the slogans for groups like the Match Group, which owns Tinder and Hinge.

00:07:05.000 So 90% of Gen Zers are coming forward in a recent poll and saying, yeah, actually, I've had a horrible experience on all of these apps.

00:07:12.000 We're all just going to delete them.

00:07:14.000 I want something real and tangible and lasting in true love.

00:07:18.000 A recent survey from her campus, as I just mentioned, said 93% of Gen Zers on campus, that includes women, still want to grow up and get married in a time that for young women, marriage is being packaged as this jail, a constraint, a way to hold you back from your personal life, your friends, corporate opportunities, and more.

00:07:38.000 And you're really starting to see a markable difference happening culturally with these young women.

00:07:43.000 Now, are we fighting some sort of cultural battle here that is incredibly difficult?

00:07:48.000 Yes, largely thanks to the indoctrination from groups like Planned Parenthood, who writes the vast majority of sex ed curriculum in this country and has hired multi-zillion-dollar celebrities and influencers to convince us the only way to survive as a woman is to support stuff like abortion on demand and vote for the left. 0.91

00:08:05.000 But it's not quite as cut and dry as you think, even on that issue.

00:08:09.000 Nine in 10 Gen Z voters support some sort of restriction on abortion, according to a new poll from Students for Life action going into this November election, which is a stark contrast to the abortion on demand through all nine months for any reason platform supported by Joe Biden and this current Democrat Party.

00:08:28.000 So those seeds are starting to be planted, and it might take a little bit of time for that political pendulum to swing, but the cultural one is already in motion.

00:08:36.000 So the divide is happening for, you know, politically.

00:08:43.000 And I know that your book is about, you know, Gen Z saving the country.

00:08:48.000 When you travel and you speak on high school and college campuses, you know, what gives you the most hope in regards to young ladies?

00:08:58.000 Do you think it could be a movable voting block?

00:09:01.000 Do you think it can normalize in the conservative direction?

00:09:05.000 I do.

00:09:06.000 And this might sound counterintuitive, but I think what gives me the most hope with our generation is that I can see and we're all openly acknowledging the brokenness in feminist culture that is currently being shoved in our faces on a silver platter for young women today.

00:09:22.000 I hear women cry all the time when they come ask us questions when I speak about abortion or dating or modern feminism on campus about how empty and sad their lives have become. 0.99

00:09:33.000 I had a very similar experience on the whatever podcast that we talked about last time I was on the show, even when these women are fundamentally different from myself in terms of religious or political values. 0.92

00:09:43.000 You know, the CDC says one in three teenage girls in America seriously contemplated taking her own life in 2021.

00:09:51.000 And if that doesn't break your heart, I don't know what possibly could.

00:09:54.000 I think we all personally know someone, mostly young ladies, that have fallen into this trap because we've only been presented the secular, empty nature of the world.

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00:11:43.000 So, Isabel, talk about some of the stereotypes of Gen Z and the ones that frustrate you the most, the ones that you hear that make you roll your eyes.

00:11:53.000 Talk about that and how you overcome that.

00:11:56.000 When I was first starting to write the book, it was such a fascinating experiment because I conducted a poll on my Instagram story and I asked people who are not Gen Zers to describe our generation in a single word.

00:12:07.000 And then I asked people our age to do the exact same thing. 0.94

00:12:09.000 And most of the words that those older than us came up with were entitled, lazy, stupid, uneducated, socialist, participation trophy, and even some more colorful language at that. 0.98

00:12:21.000 But the words that we chose to describe ourselves with were worthy, chosen, leaders, intelligent, capable, fearless, and bold. 0.74

00:12:31.000 And so I wrote this book partially out of frustration that those older than us seemed to have a fundamentally different image of who we were than what I was seeing in reality for the vast majority of my generation that I was interacting with through our turning point chapters, using my platform online as an independent creator and my live stream I'm doing every day.

00:12:50.000 And I'm hoping to bridge a lot of that generational gap.

00:12:52.000 But it's funny now, doing a lot of the media I'm doing for my book, I'll get on a radio interview or be sitting in a TV studio and people will say, Gen Z is this horrible blue-haired leftist socialist generation unanimously.

00:13:04.000 But I have an 18-year-old and I have a 21-year-old and they turn out pretty great.

00:13:08.000 They're pretty darn conservative and they have a great sense of humor and have no patience for any of this rainbow nonsense. 1.00

00:13:14.000 So I guess people just aren't seeing it outside of their own homes. 0.58

00:13:17.000 And that, of course, does exist, all of the crazy stereotypes.

00:13:20.000 But I'm finding it's a really loud minority that's given almost all of the airtime to those older than us.

00:13:27.000 So let's talk politically.

00:13:29.000 If you were to give advice to the Donald Trump campaign, say, hey, here's what you need to do to win over Gen Z voters, in particular, Gen Z women, and counter the threat of RFK and Biden. 0.64

00:13:42.000 What would you say?

00:13:44.000 First and foremost, do exactly what you did last week and speak out against Congress's banning of TikTok.

00:13:49.000 That was perhaps the most savvy thing the Trump campaign could have done in terms of curbing government overreach and protecting freedom of speech for our generation on something that is not a partisan issue when it comes to First Amendment rights in the digital age, in the public square that we all engage with every day.

00:14:05.000 And that just so happens to be the internet.

00:14:08.000 I'm sure we're going to talk a whole lot about TikTok, Charlie, which I'm excited for.

00:14:11.000 But tailoring a little bit more of this towards women in particular, I think there's a very unique opportunity to address young women and say the left is presenting to you what they are calling the solution to all women's rights issues in abortion, in corporate America, in every other beautifully wrapped up with a pink bow, female-oriented platform that actually is just a hollow lie that's going to make your life more miserable. 0.53

00:14:38.000 If you want fulfillment, if you want joy, if you want happiness and purpose in your life, conservative values are where it's at.

00:14:45.000 And it's what you guys are choosing now, even if you don't realize that it might orient politically conservative.

00:14:51.000 It just happens to be a bit more traditional in that sense.

00:14:53.000 There was a study that came out this morning that said marriage rates in America, as of this week, are back up to pre-pandemic levels.

00:15:00.000 And some states, like Nevada, have a current marriage rate of 12.5%, which is statistically unheard of.

00:15:07.000 So culturally, we're already orienting in that direction.

00:15:10.000 I would create an address and an opportunity to speak to young women about the empty lies one by one that the left is presenting to them and why the conservative side of things might be a whole lot better.

00:15:20.000 Do you think that Gen Z might end up tilting more RFK than Biden or Trump?

00:15:26.000 Do you think that it might be a little bit of a third-party challenge that we have to be concerned about?

00:15:30.000 Potentially.

00:15:31.000 Although the polling seems to suggest a lot of last-minute excitement for Donald Trump right now.

00:15:36.000 51% of voters under 25 say they're very excited about Donald Trump in November, according to a Fox News poll.

00:15:42.000 Whereas about 40% of them feel that way for Joe Biden.

00:15:45.000 So it's going in the right direction.

00:15:46.000 And it's crazy because a lot of these Gen Zers, you know, they're 12, 13, 14. 0.99

00:15:50.000 They weren't overly involved in politics during all the Trump derangement stuff.

00:15:54.000 So they're getting kind of like a fresh look at Trump in a very unusual, in a very unexpected way.

00:15:59.000 You know, they're 18, 19, and they say, why do we hate this guy so much?

00:16:03.000 He's kind of like the rebel.

00:16:04.000 He's got new attitude.

00:16:05.000 No, the left, they thought that Gen Z was going to be this very reliable voting block.

00:16:11.000 I don't know how it's going to end, but they're not going to win Gen Z by a lot. 0.57

00:16:15.000 They might win it by five or 10 points, maybe.

00:16:17.000 It's not going to be 30 or 40 points.

00:16:19.000 It's just not going to happen.

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00:17:25.000 Now, Isabel, I am on the same side of you with this.

00:17:29.000 As you know, I tweeted out saying I don't think we should ban TikTok, but I think it's a bunch of poison.

00:17:34.000 I think it's toxic. 0.98

00:17:35.000 It's turning our kids gay. 1.00

00:17:37.000 It's turning people trans. 0.99

00:17:38.000 You're very popular on TikTok.

00:17:41.000 Isabel, what am I missing about this degenerate cancer that we call TikTok?

00:17:46.000 Well, I'm glad to see other people speaking up about online censorship because I do think this is so important.

00:17:52.000 But on the flip side of the data security and national security concerns that I think most people are espousing, most of what I'm hearing out of Washington is actually the reason we need to ban TikTok stemming from the degenerate content that is overwhelmingly on the platform.

00:18:08.000 I would just have to ask, are you not also seeing what's on Instagram and on Facebook and on Twitter now X, which actually has the largest pornography problem of any online social media platform?

00:18:19.000 It's X.

00:18:20.000 It's not TikTok, which is oddly shocking to so many people.

00:18:23.000 You're seeing Dylan Mulvaney's music video go viral on Instagram and on Facebook and on Twitter just as much as you're seeing it on TikTok.

00:18:31.000 And amazingly, I think people are just so unaware that TikTok is home to literally thousands of people you may never have heard of with a verified check mark next to their name on X or on Instagram, but are talking about the very values that make Western civilization great in the most authentic way possible.

00:18:49.000 Putting on their makeup in the morning while they're getting ready to go to class in college or sitting in the passenger seat of their car.

00:18:55.000 I see more content that is pro-Trump, pro-God, and sharing the gospel, which has never been more important in the age of digital communication, that is pro-free speech and telling the truth about gender ideology and abortion and everything else on TikTok than I see on the rest of the internet combined.

00:19:12.000 Of course, are there algorithmic issues we should address?

00:19:15.000 Yes, 100%.

00:19:16.000 But those exist on every other platform as well.

00:19:18.000 It doesn't stop here.

00:19:20.000 Yeah, I'm not allowed on TikTok, actually.

00:19:21.000 I've been banned 55 times because I'm a hater.

00:19:26.000 So I guess I say things that you're not allowed to say.

00:19:30.000 For example, I say, you know, God created only men and women, hate speech strike. 0.97

00:19:34.000 I said that blacks commit 55% of the murders, hate speech strike.

00:19:37.000 So TikTok, I'm glad you're able to post on it. 0.96

00:19:41.000 I'm not allowed to.

00:19:42.000 To.

00:19:42.000 Our team has some sort of a page that they run, but they run it in some sort of curated way.

00:19:46.000 All right, I want you to respond to this, though.

00:19:48.000 It's not even me.

00:19:49.000 Dylan Mulvaney, the trans mascot, says that TikTok makes kids or people more transy.

00:19:57.000 So I want you to respond to the man.

00:19:59.000 Hear that, everybody?

00:20:00.000 The man, Dylan Mulvaney, cut 52.

00:20:02.000 And now with transness, I'm hoping that it's the same trajectory of like, you know, the people that are being so outwardly transphobic online in my comments and my DMs. 0.87

00:20:12.000 I'm hoping that that will become like increasingly embarrassing for them and that these media organizations and these social platforms will be equally embarrassed that they tolerated and allowed these things to happen and didn't step up when we needed them most.

00:20:26.000 But I also think about how specific to TikTok, because I still am like, what is this app?

00:20:31.000 What am I even doing?

00:20:32.000 I think it's a way for young people, especially to see people that are like them.

00:20:39.000 So the essence of what he's saying is that it helps see people that are more like him.

00:20:47.000 Do you think that TikTok is making people trans?

00:20:50.000 No, I think society and American culture being governed by the left at large is making people trans. 0.80

00:20:55.000 I think leftist elementary school teachers and the pornographic books in their library are making people trans. 0.56

00:21:01.000 I think American pastors who try to tell you Jesus is non-binary are trying to make people trans.

00:21:07.000 Are there some videos on TikTok that are trying to push children to change their gender identity?

00:21:12.000 Yes.

00:21:13.000 Interestingly, in the full version of that clip that we just watched, I watched it this morning, Dylan talks about how he saw the first ever really feminine man in entertainment and on a screen by watching glee.

00:21:24.000 So this predates TikTok.

00:21:26.000 This is, of course, everything that we see across our screens.

00:21:29.000 But in reference to Dylan's new Days of Girlhood, very, very offensive song and music video that is turning a lot of people off this week as to his content.

00:21:38.000 I can't tell you, Charlie, how many videos I've seen with 10, 20, 30, 40 million views, thousands of these videos, even from people who say they support transitioning of children, even for people that would be overwhelmingly leftist and feminist, saying, guess what?

00:21:53.000 I am a woman, and being a woman has nothing to do with popping pills or meaningless hookups where I don't know that person's name or walks of shame coming home from people's houses or any of the problems that Dylan Mulvaney is espousing in this video as a beautiful way to live as a girl.

00:22:09.000 So people are waking up and part of that is because of the authenticity that we're seeing on the internet at large and ordinary people being courageous enough to speak the truth.

00:22:18.000 I will acknowledge that other platforms have the same venom, but TikTok has by far the youngest user base of all the major platforms.

00:22:26.000 And so I think that is the concern is that an average TikTok user, I think, is like 19 years old, I think.

00:22:35.000 I have some of the data here and 57% are female.

00:22:38.000 And so you've been very successful on TikTok.

00:22:42.000 There is apparently a right-wing community that hasn't been banned.

00:22:45.000 Again, I'm super bitter.

00:22:46.000 I've tried so many times to get on TikTok, but they ban me every single time.

00:22:51.000 So tell us about right-wing TikTok that isn't banned.

00:22:54.000 Right-wing TikTok that isn't banned is amazingly thriving at this very moment.

00:22:59.000 I have my bitter moments too, Charlie.

00:23:00.000 I've been permanently banned in the early days of TikTok seven or eight times.

00:23:04.000 And I like to call my account the Lazarus of TikTok accounts because it miraculously keeps coming back from the dead.

00:23:10.000 You know, I don't know if I'm really supposed to talk much about this publicly, but I actually got a call a few weeks ago from an employee at TikTok asking what they can do to make the platform better for people who have values like mine.

00:23:20.000 What are the issues with censorship?

00:23:21.000 What are the problems that we're seeing in the algorithm?

00:23:23.000 They want to create a fost and foster a community of freedom of speech on this platform for the 170 million Americans who use it every day.

00:23:31.000 It's really encouraging.

00:23:32.000 And as to this younger age side of things, I think it's really important that we are forgetting a major part of this conversation at the national debate on whether or not to ban TikTok, particularly in the vein of saving the children, which a lot of members of Congress and now our president of the United States claim is their reasoning behind wanting to erase this platform from the United States.

00:23:54.000 Where are parents involved in the education and upbringing and value setting for their children?

00:24:00.000 I can't go to a restaurant today without seeing a family that each child has an iPad sitting around the table because parents want to do the lazy, easy button mode of raising their children.

00:24:10.000 And I think the same can be said for social media.

00:24:13.000 The government should never, never, ever take on the role of parenting, ever.

00:24:17.000 And I fear that we've done that and we've been complacent in that in education.

00:24:20.000 We've done that in entertainment.

00:24:22.000 And now, of course, we're seeing that with social media as well.

00:24:25.000 So it's awfully encouraging to see parents step up and take ownership of the value setting for their family and forming a strong lifestyle for their children to choose as they continue growing up.

00:24:35.000 But I sure as heck don't trust the government to educate children.

00:24:38.000 I don't trust them to entertain children.

00:24:40.000 So I shouldn't trust them to determine what content on the internet is good or bad for children either.

00:24:45.000 So the, you know, the audience is very tilted against TikTok, but I still, I don't like the piece of legislation because I think it could be used against other things.

00:24:54.000 The essence, I think, of the problem, though, is: do you think there's anything different with how TikTok elevates certain content or has been shown to have negative implications of people's attention span?

00:25:12.000 Because it is so short in nature.

00:25:15.000 Do you think there's any merit to those arguments?

00:25:18.000 And there certainly should be a merit to a conversation happening about the addictive nature of social media for kids in general.

00:25:18.000 Absolutely.

00:25:25.000 You know, they're doing studies about this.

00:25:26.000 As you know, Charlie, I was a biomedical scientist by education, so I'm incredibly nerdy reading all of these scientific studies.

00:25:33.000 But people are saying in the scientific community now that use of social media in so many teenagers is looking like drug addiction for people who use it every single day.

00:25:41.000 It's the same hormone loop that's going through your brain.

00:25:44.000 And that's very, very damaging to growing and developing minds and bodies for the next generation.

00:25:50.000 So 100% room for a great conversation about all of this.

00:25:53.000 I guess I'm just having a really hard time seeing how all of these arguments are only applied to one social media platform that happens to be the most used social media platform by my generation, largely to criticize and speak up against the government from what I'm seeing using it every day.

00:26:11.000 When the exact same thing could be said about meta-owned platforms of Facebook and Instagram, the exact same thing could be said about TikTok videos getting reposted on X or on YouTube shorts that have the exact same format as TikTok.

00:26:23.000 This idea of the attention span and the short form content and the addiction to the platform or even the degenerate content itself absolutely merits a conversation.

00:26:32.000 But we need to be very careful about how we're having this conversation.

00:26:35.000 Is it silencing certain Americans because they happen to use this platform?

00:26:39.000 Or is it examining a cultural shift that needs our attention desperately?

00:26:44.000 So talk about the spiritual side.

00:26:46.000 You know the stats.

00:26:48.000 Is Gen Z some people say they're the least religious generation in history?

00:26:53.000 What do the numbers show?

00:26:55.000 We certainly have been espoused to be a godless generation and truly atheist.

00:26:59.000 But maybe the biggest thing that gave me hope when writing my book was discovering that the pendulum is swinging very, very far in the opposite direction.

00:27:08.000 We talk a lot about being countercultural and punk rock patriots at Turning Point USA for what young people are doing to rebel against the people who came before us.

00:27:16.000 And in a society that has no sense of objective morality from God, we've essentially removed God from society entirely.

00:27:24.000 Maybe the most punk rock thing one could do as a Gen Zer today is to seek purpose and meaning in God, to seek religion, to seek tradition in our religion. 0.98

00:27:34.000 And that's exactly what we're doing.

00:27:35.000 At the end of 2021, less than 25% of our generation said that we believed in God at all.

00:27:41.000 Nobody really did.

00:27:42.000 But by the end of 2023, over one-third of us proudly say that we believe in God and are regularly practicing our religion.

00:27:50.000 Even inside of certain denominations, look at Catholicism in America today.

00:27:54.000 Gen Z is the most likely demographic to say they prefer the traditional Latin mass.

00:27:59.000 So not only are we seeking God, we're seeking tradition with a capital T and very rigid structure in this loose, anything goes, lukewarm Christianity society. 0.97

00:28:08.000 Just last week, the TikTok pastor Cliff, who we all love talking to, did an event at Mississippi State where over 3,000 students showed up to watch him debate an atheist professor.

00:28:19.000 And they had to open up three or four lecture halls in order to accommodate everyone seeking answers to these questions of what are we doing here?

00:28:26.000 What was I created for?

00:28:27.000 And is there meaning bigger than our secular society?

00:28:31.000 So we're going to try one last time, and my final opinion on the bill will be determined on whether or not TikTok kicks me off.

00:28:39.000 So we're going to create an official TikTok account and you could call your friend at TikTok.

00:28:44.000 Hey, you guys want to help the right.

00:28:46.000 I'm going to work on that, Charlie.

00:28:48.000 Don't ban Charlie Kirk.

00:28:49.000 I'm a very bitter person with this stuff.

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00:30:06.000 Talk about your early years with Turning Point USA, how that got you into activism.

00:30:10.000 I'm sure you get questions all the time.

00:30:11.000 How can I do a career?

00:30:12.000 How can I do this stuff?

00:30:13.000 You know, you built your platform for nothing.

00:30:15.000 Tell us the story.

00:30:16.000 I do, Charlie.

00:30:17.000 I get questions.

00:30:18.000 Questions like this almost every time I'm on campus with our students, and it's one of my favorite questions to answer because the big secret is that there is no secret.

00:30:25.000 Anybody can do what I do every day.

00:30:27.000 It just takes the courage to stand up and tell the truth in whatever capacity you can.

00:30:31.000 As you know, I was pre-med in college.

00:30:33.000 I never had any sort of expectation of working in social media and communications or even being an author.

00:30:39.000 I wanted to be a trauma surgeon because I loved how science was rooted in the pursuit of objective truth.

00:30:45.000 And while I was at Colorado State University, where I will be returning next week for a stop on my book tour, so we'll see how that reception goes.

00:30:52.000 In my classes like physiology and anatomy and organic chemistry, which yes, I had to take three times.

00:30:57.000 There's no shame in admitting it.

00:30:59.000 We were spending way too much time talking about my professor's political opinions and the orange white supremacist guy that just got elected to the White House rather than that pursuit of objective truth.

00:31:09.000 Obviously, my life went in a very different direction.

00:31:11.000 And I think a lot of that started with looking around on my campus of 33,000 people and not seeing a single outspoken person that shared my values.

00:31:20.000 So I realized if no one else was going to be the first person to raise their hand in class, to set up a folding table and hand out socialism sucks buttons on campus, or to invite speakers like yourself to campus, I probably was just going to have to be the first one to do that.

00:31:33.000 And we created the biggest club on campus by starting a Turning Point USA chapter with over 700 active members.

00:31:40.000 We brought incredible speakers to campus, including yourself, many, many times coming back to CSU.

00:31:45.000 And it really made me fall in love, again, with this idea of telling people the truth for a living.

00:31:51.000 I don't do that as a scientist anymore, but I do get to do that in 15-second TikTok videos or three-hour live streams or even in writing a book.

00:31:58.000 The best advice I can give you is to just hit post on anything, any crazy thing that's happening on your college campus, record yourself sitting in your dorm room and talk about what the heck your student government just did.

00:32:09.000 There is no shortage of opportunities there or the crazy assignment that you just got an F on because you dared to tell the truth.

00:32:14.000 You have no idea how God can use you to continue telling the truth to our generation.

00:32:19.000 Final thoughts, Isabel, talk about your book, Things We Didn't Cover, Elements That You Want to Make Sure Our Audience Is Aware of.

00:32:25.000 The book is called The End of the Alphabet, How Gen Z Can Save America.

00:32:29.000 First and foremost, if you are a Gen Zer looking for leadership tools on how you can tell the truth in your own community, this book is for you. 0.89

00:32:36.000 If you have Gen Zers who might be your kids or grandkids and you're hoping to inspire them and maybe learn a little bit more about the truth with their generation in the process, this book is for you as well.

00:32:46.000 You can buy the end of the alphabet anywhere books are sold.

00:32:49.000 Amazon will deliver it to your house in the same day, it looks like, according to what I saw earlier today.

00:32:54.000 And I am just so, so grateful for the outpouring of support.

00:32:56.000 Gen Z, let's go prove the world wrong about what they think about us.

00:33:00.000 Isabel Brown, thank you so much.

00:33:02.000 Talk to you soon.

00:33:03.000 Check out the book, The End of the Alphabet.

00:33:04.000 Thank you so much.

00:33:05.000 Thank you.

00:33:06.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:33:07.000 Everybody, email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:09.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

00:33:13.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 21, 2024

How Gen Z Can Save America...No, Really!

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